That's plain fucked up. can you say SOCIOPATH? i cant imagine waking up one day, going ''hmm, i think i'll murder my step-mom today" and shoot her in the back while she's asleep. (especially since she's out the door by 5:00 a.m. at the latest) R.I.P. Mrs. Houk, and best wishes to the surviving members of her immediate family

And, of course, we know how subjective family opinions can be. “NEVER speak ill of the dead.” Don’t know them or Kenzie, so I’m going to take it all with a grain of salt. Also, maybe she did try, but that does not necessarily mean she did the best job. She was only 26, and may not have had a whole lot of experience dealing with an 11yo boy, especially one with such a rough background. ALL SPECULATIVE.

That is true, I would really like some more actual facts about his home life.

Actually, I’m not unhappy about my experience one bit, but thanks for the nice words. I happen to be one of those “adversity builds character” people. Without that experience, my sister and I might not have been as close as we are and my dad and I might not be as close as we are now that I’m an adult. I think that experience did something to galvanize the relationships in my life, contributed to my leadership skills, and it gave me some insight into situations like this, I think.

Awsome, truely awsome, and I am not being sarcastic.

People’s brains change DRAMATICALLY from 11 to roughly 25 when they stop developing. It would behoove us to monitor the kid, rather than turn our backs on him.

Totally agree. My concern is someone cutting him slack BECAUSE of his age. That should not happen under any circumstance.

Actually, I'm not unhappy about my experience one bit, but thanks for the nice words. I happen to be one of those "adversity builds character" people. Without that experience, my sister and I might not have been as close as we are and my dad and I might not be as close as we are now that I'm an adult. I think that experience did something to galvanize the relationships in my life, contributed to my leadership skills, and it gave me some insight into situations like this, I think.

People's brains change DRAMATICALLY from 11 to roughly 25 when they stop developing. It would behoove us to monitor the kid, rather than turn our backs on him.

From some stuff I have read, didn’t her family say Kenzie tried really hard with Jordan and nothing worked?? Maybe her just didn’t want her or her children there? I hope more info is released in this case!

And, of course, we know how subjective family opinions can be. "NEVER speak ill of the dead." Don't know them or Kenzie, so I'm going to take it all with a grain of salt. Also, maybe she did try, but that does not necessarily mean she did the best job. She was only 26, and may not have had a whole lot of experience dealing with an 11yo boy, especially one with such a rough background. ALL SPECULATIVE.

Pixie (I think she’s the one who said this) is right - this kid COULD just be a sociopath.

I said this waaaaaay back in the beginning of this thread. But others have put it forward also. I put it out there as a THEORY, mere speculation. The more details we learn on the home life, the more I lean toward it. I still hold out hope that he can be rehabed. I have a serious, I mean SERIOUS, problem throwing a child away; especially one this age.

E) New flame has trouble relating to and/or building a relationship with Jordan (What was their relationship like? Did she try to create a mutually benefitial relationship with the boy, or did she reject him?) Rejection by the Bio-Mother could have fostered in him the desire for no mother figure at all, i.e. “We did not need one, we do not need one, we will never need one, and she is not one.”

From some stuff I have read, didn't her family say Kenzie tried really hard with Jordan and nothing worked?? Maybe her just didn't want her or her children there? I hope more info is released in this case!

***sits back and cleans claws*** LOL!

CassieMomma, Holy shit, it was a cat fight. I am proud of myself. You know how I love a good scrap, but I stayed focused and on topic this time. LOL.

Funny!

Athena, thank you VERY much for presenting the info on the mother. I have not had the time to research her myself. All of it throws some interesting twists into my speculations and opens a whole new spectrum of emotions that Jordan might likely have been experiencing. One that I didn't put forth earlier:

E) New flame has trouble relating to and/or building a relationship with Jordan (What was their relationship like? Did she try to create a mutually benefitial relationship with the boy, or did she reject him?) Rejection by the Bio-Mother could have fostered in him the desire for no mother figure at all, i.e. "We did not need one, we do not need one, we will never need one, and she is not one."

Athena, I am very sorry to hear of your early years. Your story sounds like so many I have heard from the boys and girls who adopt themselves to me. When they ask "Why is this happenning? Why me?" I say "Everything you are experiencing now will give you the strength and ability to help others like yourself later. Everything happens for a reason, and it is up to us to fiqure out the reasons. Don't give up." I am glad your situation has turned out for the better; so many don't. I hope you are putting your experiences to good use; sounds like you'd be a GREAT mentor for troubled teens.

CassieMomma, Holy shit, it was a cat fight. I am proud of myself. You know how I love a good scrap, but I stayed focused and on topic this time. LOL.

Athena - I get where you are coming from and I'm sorry that you had to experience that as a child. I am not even going to pretend that I can understand, but again you did not kill anyone. You never actually followed through. Jordan did and he wasn't doing it out of protection, she was sleeping. Regardless this situation is horrific and I feel for the family. I can't even imagine the loss and pain they must be feeling.

I wouldn’t expect anything less from someone like you. You’re obviously one of those unhappy people, you know the ones that have no forgiveness in their hearts…. Thanks for showing the world your ignorance! I simply said my heart goes out to him, he’s just a child. Yes, he MIGHT have done a terrible thing and I’m not down playing that. UNLESS YOU KNOW ALL THE FACTS… LAY OFF THE ATTACKS OF AN 11 YEAR OLD…. Of course we know better as sane adults than to behave in such a way…children on emotional rollercoasters aren’t as mentally capable.

Oh man I missed this, darn. I think I was at home being sad and ignorant. Where did that come from???? I never said that Jordan should die I said "lock him up and throw away the key". Still believe that.....again must be my heart of stone. Not sure what I did to start the name calling, but that's ok. It actually made my morning. This is my first troll experience on DD. Thanks to all my fellow demonites who stepped in to say something.....my heart is fluttering and my hands are sweaty :) Hee hee.

Mom of an 11 year old - You are a dumb ass bitch and it's obvious you are the one that is "unhappy". Maybe you should get a life. One that is productive and not in a fantasy land!

I agree we are all capable, as I said earlier there is SOMETHING that stops us, even you said you probably wouldn't have tried to kill your father. You are right we all have histories and circumstances from our childhood that shapes us into the people we are today. I think most of us "kids" from difficult backgrounds didn't think as kids, you included. The difference is none of us KILLED. I don't know whether this child is a sociopath or not; salvagable or not. I do think his background and hism others mental state should be looked at. He could have serious mental issues that are genetic. I just know I would not be comfortable with him on the streets putting others at risk unless and until there is no doubt he is safe for society. And that would be after he paid for what he did.

Again - just the state of development a child is at would, in an adult, would warrant a diagnosis of mental illness. Kids are impulsive. I don't have to have one to realize that.

Everyone is capable of killing. Even if it's never crossed your mind, you are an animal first and foremost. You ARE capable.

Luckily, things strike us all differently. When I was a teenager, you could have easily read about me on the front page. When my parents' alcoholism got bad, I slept with a knife under my pillow. Not because they abused me physically, because they didn't. I was just waiting for my dad to cross the line. I had identified him as the bad guy (even thought my mother would often provoke things). I had prepared it all in my mind and, when they were fighting, I'd ready that knife and wait for him to come in. Thanks to circumstance, he never did. I was a kid, and I was ready to kill a parent. And this was a man I loved INTENSELY. Today, he and I have the best father-daughter relationship I've ever seen. But there was that dark period, and I'll never forget it.

The differences? Well, I probably wouldn't have killed him. I would have stabbed, but even as a large girl, I was much smaller than my dad. He would have undoubtedly over powered me. Had I had a gun at my disposal, my dad might be dead right now. That, and he was the aggressor. That surely would have scored me some sympathy. But, would my family have copped to that? Unlikely. You would have heard the same kind of story you're hearing about this kid. "She's a great student. She's an athlete. She's never been aggressive to anyone. Her father loved her dearly. She had a good home situation." But, you know what? Just because it hasn't caught the attention of the CPS doesn't mean bad shit isn't happening. That's not to say that I'm suggesting abuse happened in this household, but this man knocked up this woman and embraced her whole family without ANY consideration of his son.

As an adult, I look back on my thinking as a child, and I realize it wasn't right. Of course it wasn't right. But I also remember being in it. I remember knowing what it was like - laying in my bed, knife in hand, ready to do something. Did I know dead was dead? Absolutely. Did that matter? Not in the face of a threat. We're all prepared to kill.

Luckily, we don't have the opportunity or the circumstance that would provoke it.

I'm not saying this child... CHILD... is innocent. He did this, and he has to suffer some consequence. I just don't think we should be quite so prepared to throw him away. People are not so single-dimensional. It's not black or white, good or bad, as convenient as that would be. And when we're dealing with a child, an individual who doesn't have a full deck of cards, but may very well develop them one day... He deserves the chance to be monitored, to at least see if he comes to realize this tremendous err in judgment.

It's so easy to see people as single-faceted, as either good or bad... But I truly, truly believe you all know differently, and are reacting on sheer emotion. Reach back into your histories... Think about when you did or thought about doing awful things. Pixie (I think she's the one who said this) is right - this kid COULD just be a sociopath. But the statistics relating to kids who commit murder put the odds in his favor, and the human condition puts things in his favor. How horrible would it be if this boy's soul could be retrieved, and we neglected to even try out of sheer vengence. I'm imploring people to cool down a bit and consider the possibilities.

Reckon Bio mom has mental issues that have been passed down?? That would explain some things? Wonder is the child exhibited violent behavior before Chris even met Kenzie?

I'm all over the map on this one - got a 410 shotgun on my 10th birthday . . . many years of good times. Safe good times. I have an 11 yr old (daughter) who I wouldn't dream of letting near a gun.

Dunno.

Do we know how long Jordan and Chris were alone before Chris got involved again? And I take it that Athena knows something about the bio-mother’s absence that precludes RunecirE’s point D from being an issue?

Indeed.

Jordan's mother, Mildred Krause, was just four months pregnant with him when she first entered a courtroom to battle his father, Christopher Brown.

At that time, in March 1997, Krause filed a protection of abuse order against Brown, claiming he drank, did drugs and had threatened to harm her. Apparently unaware Krause was pregnant with his son, Brown was ordered to stay away from her, an order later expunged, according to court records and Brown's attorney, Dennis Elisco.

Immediately after Jordan was born on Aug. 30, 1997, Krause contacted Lawrence County Children and Youth Services requesting that they take custody of the child so her mother could adopt him, according to court documents. Not having the father's consent, the agency declined her request.

Brown, meanwhile, tipped off by Krause's grandmother and brother that she was having his baby in secret, filed an emergency petition with the court, opposing the move to have the child put up for adoption and demanding full custody of his son.

In a back-and-forth battle resolved when Jordan was about 2 months old, a court ruled Krause and Brown would share custody, with the mother getting him four days a week and the father three.

But on Feb. 5, 1999, with the consent of both parents, Christopher Brown was awarded full custody of his 18-month-old son. Court records don't indicate why.

Friends and family say that from February 1999 on, Krause had little contact with her son, entering and exiting his life at will. They say Brown was a good father and spent a lot of quality time with his son.

The instability that characterized Jordan's formative years, including the fact he might have felt rejected by his biological mother, could have influenced his later behavior, said Daniel Shaw, chairman of the psychology department at the University of Pittsburgh.

Source

This kid was 2 when mom abandoned him, stopping in irregularly and rarely to remind him what he had lost.... worthless bitch.

Will someone please give Mom with a 11 YR old says a gold sticker or something.Maybe then she can get over herself with her superior intelligence. ROFL

I'll ask Morbid to enter her as a candidate for the "Troll of the year" award. Maybe she'll win, though, I'm afraid to ask what!

***WELL SAID*** Here Here!!! ***Kudos***

TY sarabei

Will someone please give Mom with a 11 YR old says a gold sticker or something.
Maybe then she can get over herself with her superior intelligence. ROFL

It was interesting and it deserves another look. I hope no mother could be that Machiavellian; but that does not mean the world has not seen that sort of poison dripped in a child’s ear.

As a foster parent, I have seen this type of mothering before. I think you might be surprised just how catty they can get when someone else (DHS, the other woman) inserts in their lives.

Does anyone have any info on the bio mom? I do find it odd that she hasn’t stepped forward??

I'd like to know also. It would help with my perspectives.

Holy shit, Demonites! When I seen 193 comments I knew a troll must of shown up! Great Job!
I guess you can stick a fork in her, she's done!

Does anyone have any info on the bio mom? I do find it odd that she hasn't stepped forward??

Aww! I’m just kidding. She even made me crawl out of the innards of DD.

LOL

I was waiting for you to come back, Lavonna…hehehehe…lmao

LOL I'm back but I need to start supper, hubby gets home at 8 and I will be back afterwhile :-)

She found us

Aww! I'm just kidding. She even made me crawl out of the innards of DD.

I don't remember reading anything about Jordan's mother, but I am wondering if she is his mother.

Oh and you’re a bitch

I was waiting for you to come back, Lavonna...hehehehe...lmao

Where did you guys find that fucktard?

She found us :-(

Where did you guys find that fucktard? :)

Rolling on the floor LMAO!!!

:-D

Lavonna called me a bitch = she is an idiot….. but you thinking im insensitive…maybe you should read my comments about this actual story and not the attacks back and forth???

blah blah blah. I am starting to wonder if you are the "mom"??? If so that is why you are so hellbent *grinning* on educating us on compassion and forgiveness.

Oh and you’re a bitch

Rolling on the floor LMAO!!!

First of all dumbass *grinning* are you to stupid to fucking (oops, potty mouth) read?
I said I was leaving work.. so no I am NOT to stupid for your temper to not come out bitch, I was driving and then tanning my ass in the tanning bed and before my husband gets home from work and I start cooking I decided to get on here and what the hell do I see? You calling me! Here I am.

You don't know me but I am like a bulldog. I let nothing go

I did have a clue what I was talking about. I seen you running your big fatass piehole calling names to people whose opinions didn't match yours (how many times do you have to be told?)

okay well lavonna was just too stupid for my temper to not come out i suppose…. and I think I just stated earlier that being a parent is the only reason you would have intelligent comments… feel free to let that go now… and that comment toward her didn’t mean what you think it means…she’s calling me a bitch and she has no clue what she’s talking about…i’m anything but…. Yes I know what passive aggressive is…. thanks for insulting my intelligence…now tell me again how you can pass judgement on me… careful pointing a finger when you’re pointing three right back at yourself

Oh and you're a bitch

LMAO, I needed this today.

Hee Hee!

It was purely speculative anyway. I was trying to put a list together that would provide thoughtful discourse, [...]

It was interesting and it deserves another look. I hope no mother could be that Machiavellian; but that does not mean the world has not seen that sort of poison dripped in a child's ear.

Do we know how long Jordan and Chris were alone before Chris got involved again? And I take it that Athena knows something about the bio-mother’s absence that precludes RunecirE’s point D from being an issue?

It was purely speculative anyway. I was trying to put a list together that would provide thoughtful discourse, and in any familial unit there are three parts, Father, Mother, and Child. The absence of any one of the three can have significant and lasting effects on the other two, and when one is gone due to ANY kind of traumatic (anything disruptive or destructive) experience, the effects can multiply in magnitude ad infinitum. Coupled with all of this is the mind and spirit of each individual and their ability to deal with said trauma. We are not computers with set perameters and pre-programmed responses.
No one can possibly know how any other person would respond in any given situation.

Haven’t you left yet to see if you can mentor this child? ***rubs hands gleefully in anticipation***

LMAO, I needed this today.

Lavonna called me a bitch = she is an idiot….. but you thinking im insensitive…maybe you should read my comments about this actual story and not the attacks back and forth???

LOL got you riled up hmm!

Thank you for that, but if my son were the perp. of such a hideous crime, I would want him judged no differently than anyone else.

I hear ya! It would hurt but you have to do what you have to do.

Damn what just happened? I am sure glad it's over. Battle of opinions drains me. LOL

I am totally delighted by that! I thought of it especially for YOU……maybe someday you will actually learn something….stranger things HAVE happened.

Optimist!

oh don’t pull out that nancy grace bullshit comment. I sure hope you don’t hold her as the standard to which all mothers should aspire.

LOL

Someone said juvie til adult then prison after. I agree with that….I don’t agree with the death penalty in this case, although I am pro death penalty.

I say juvi and then when he turns 18 go to prison. But I think to do that he has to be charged has an adult, I believe.

Nicely done demons! Trolls never last too long. Maybe that's why we think we don't get many. They never get past the FP!

HEY!! What about me? Apparently I am a moron and a kettle! LMAO!

Sarabei, Oh I am so sorry! You owe one to Sarabei as well too for especially calling her a moron. Shame on you. LOL

Here’s a kid who’s ONLY ever had his dad, and VERY suddenly, his dad’s attention is split between him and three and a half new people.

Do we know how long Jordan and Chris were alone before Chris got involved again? And I take it that Athena knows something about the bio-mother's absence that precludes RunecirE's point D from being an issue?

Thanks for forgetting me as I will you… this child and the actual topic will however be in my thoughts and prayers…

Haven't you left yet to see if you can mentor this child? ***rubs hands gleefully in anticipation***

And..what was your name again? Oh now I remember....had almost forgotten you there for a minute.

Thank you for that, but if my son were the perp. of such a hideous crime, I would want him judged no differently than anyone else. And before anyone says anything (for those who do not know) I DO have a 13yo and an 18yo, both boys. I would want them to be evaluated for mental compitency, and then either punished or treated or both accordingly. I love them dearly, I would give my life for them, but wrong is wrong. I have raised them to believe that no wrong is justifiable or goes unpunished, and I would not be upholding my position as parent or be the person that I am if I did not back that up to the fullest extent. Would it break my heart to watch them be locked away for life…ABSOLUTELY. Would I die each day inside knowing I could never take them fishing or hiking or out to dinner ever again…MORE THAN YOU KNOW. But my pain would NOT dissuade me from what I believe. I am a Libra, what more can I say.

***WELL SAID*** Here Here!!! ***Kudos***

Thanks for forgetting me as I will you... this child and the actual topic will however be in my thoughts and prayers...

Lavonna called me a bitch = she is an idiot….. but you thinking im insensitive…maybe you should read my comments about this actual story and not the attacks back and forth???

On second thought I have a solution, I actually DO pray you get to mentor this kid....then when he murders you we can put you on the front page.

RunecirE: Whew, another intelligent adult, WELL SAID!

Thank you for that, but if my son were the perp. of such a hideous crime, I would want him judged no differently than anyone else. And before anyone says anything (for those who do not know) I DO have a 13yo and an 18yo, both boys. I would want them to be evaluated for mental compitency, and then either punished or treated or both accordingly. I love them dearly, I would give my life for them, but wrong is wrong. I have raised them to believe that no wrong is justifiable or goes unpunished, and I would not be upholding my position as parent or be the person that I am if I did not back that up to the fullest extent. Would it break my heart to watch them be locked away for life...ABSOLUTELY. Would I die each day inside knowing I could never take them fishing or hiking or out to dinner ever again...MORE THAN YOU KNOW. But my pain would NOT dissuade me from what I believe. I am a Libra, what more can I say.

Lavonna called me a bitch = she is an idiot….. but you thinking im insensitive…maybe you should read my comments about this actual story and not the attacks back and forth???

Your first comment was thrown out the window when you began to state that people were morons and unhappy. Then you expect them not to retaliate. funny stuff, mom. Funny stuff.

Lavonna called me a bitch = she is an idiot..... but you thinking im insensitive...maybe you should read my comments about this actual story and not the attacks back and forth???

Have a nice evening stewing over my comments :o)

Meh, you will be forgotten 2 seconds after you quit posting...none of your comments have the staying power you apparently wish they would.

Speaking of name calling, I believe you called Lavonna ignorant. I believe you owe her an apology. For a mother, after reading your comments I find you an insensitive person.

HEY!! What about me? Apparently I am a moron and a kettle! LMAO!

Have a nice evening stewing over my comments :o)

Coming from you taht means so much to be sarabei…. HA!

I am totally delighted by that! I thought of it especially for YOU......maybe someday you will actually learn something....stranger things HAVE happened.

"You’re too stupid to get it"

Speaking of name calling, I believe you called Lavonna ignorant. I believe you owe her an apology. For a mother, after reading your comments I find you an insensitive person.

Coming from you taht means so much to be sarabei.... HA!

Were you the one who came up with the above idea originally?? Whoever did, I thought it was good!!

I have been marinating for a while regarding this situation and this is the best I could think of that would actually help/scare him into be a good person. I don't agree he should be killed, but I don't think they should lock up the key and throw it away.

Seriously…. this site has turned into a debate about my beliefs and statements…. that’s funny!

OOOH!!! What an ego!! Toots this is ONE thread...hardly the whole site!! LMAO!

okay well lavonna was just too stupid for my temper to not come out i suppose…. and I think I just stated earlier that being a parent is the only reason you would have intelligent comments… feel free to let that go now… and that comment toward her didn’t mean what you think it means…she’s calling me a bitch and she has no clue what she’s talking about…i’m anything but…. Yes I know what passive aggressive is…. thanks for insulting my intelligence…now tell me again how you can pass judgement on me… careful pointing a finger when you’re pointing three right back at yourself

OMG.....you are fucking hilarous!! You are welcome!! At least I am not moronic enough to NOT be able to accept other people's opinions.

oh don't pull out that nancy grace bullshit comment. I sure hope you don't hold her as the standard to which all mothers should aspire.

Seriously.... this site has turned into a debate about my beliefs and statements.... that's funny!

Nope, I understand that your first comment was not attacking anyone, but they didn’t attack you after you commented in the beginning. It was your second comment that had all the name calling. Which in turn, they called you names too. While, I would not want this child dead, I would want him evaluated for a period of time, therapy if you will while in a juvenile setting, then sent to prison for a while when he becomes of age so that way he knows that he can never do it again or else he will end up in that place again. I do not believe he should get off easily. But hey, if no one agrees with me, then fine, I’m not going to waste my time arguing about people’s intelligence or how they are unhappy just because they disagree with my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and if you feel like you need to have the upper hand by putting others down, then so be it. It just goes to show how you are not contributing to anything of importance, nor how you feel on the matter.

Were you the one who came up with the above idea originally?? Whoever did, I thought it was good!!

Oh and by the way - there are plenty of true crime sites that will censure out the ugly for you.

Pixie, I agree with you…There is no excuse for murder. I am not expecting this kid to get a pat on his head and a popsicle, but DEATH, really? I think someone else should be done about this. But death is extreme.

I don't think anybody commenting at any length has so far seriously suggested that the child in question be punished with death. They seem to be split pretty evenly between he should be in juvie and he should be in juvie followed by gaol for a long time/for life.

okay well lavonna was just too stupid for my temper to not come out i suppose.... and I think I just stated earlier that being a parent is the only reason you would have intelligent comments... feel free to let that go now... and that comment toward her didn't mean what you think it means...she's calling me a bitch and she has no clue what she's talking about...i'm anything but.... Yes I know what passive aggressive is.... thanks for insulting my intelligence...now tell me again how you can pass judgement on me... careful pointing a finger when you're pointing three right back at yourself

Pixie..thanks for the subtle little comments… I think I’m aware they don’t agree with me… their harsh comments about him are no better than my comments about this entire situation….

Subtle? I thought I was being straight forward.

They CAN make harsh comments if they want. That's my point - say your piece and be done with it lady! you don't have to insult anyone that disagrees with you.

Pixie, I agree with you…There is no excuse for murder. I am not expecting this kid to get a pat on his head and a popsicle, but DEATH, really? I think someone else should be done about this. But death is extreme.

Someone said juvie til adult then prison after. I agree with that....I don't agree with the death penalty in this case, although I am pro death penalty.

thanks for all your attacks upon this educated mother… as far as ignorance you see more of it staring at you in the mirror… websters…you actually know what that is… im sure you use it often to look up those big words you don’t know how to spell… careful lets not get on the real topic…we’re too busy insulting one another now…. here let me act like an 11 year old and roll my eyes at you….

Haven't proved it by me...and comments like this just support my original hypothesis about you.

We don't do that!

Pixie, I agree with you…There is no excuse for murder. I am not expecting this kid to get a pat on his head and a popsicle, but DEATH, really? I think someone else should be done about this. But death is extreme.

I'm not a big fan of the death sentence in any case. I just don't feel much sympathy for him.

Pixie..thanks for the subtle little comments... I think I'm aware they don't agree with me... their harsh comments about him are no better than my comments about this entire situation....

Try to keep up before you call me a B*TCH I guess my harsh opinion is worse than that of their statements of an 11 year old??? Wow you’re a real benefit to society. Thanks for that. You’re so appreciated! Thanks for name calling, makes me feel better about my comments. You’re pathetic. Thanks for the attack and showing us how stupid people are… If I’m anything, it’s a EDUCATED, COMPASSIONATE, LOVING, and WONDERFUL MOTHER! Just to let you know. Do you even have children? Give me a break… You have no idea what you’re talking about!

I didn't like to crop this since you seemed to think I quoted you out of context before....... Tell me again that it matters what I think if I am not a mother.

Do you know what a passive-aggressive is, Mom with an 11 YR Old?

I completely agree!!! More than one person failed this child. If he felt the best solution to his “potential step-mom-problem”was to shoot her then he was let down by the other adults around him. I’m not saying they should have seen it coming, but they might have if they’d paid attention to his threats(according to the article). Before anybody jumps on me, I’m just stating my opinion,,,,,raising a child takes more than food shelter clothes and toys,….it takes attention and letting that child know that he can rely on you and talk to you about his feelings. I just think that a lot of people these days think that all you have to do is keep them from running into the street, and you’ve done your job. Lots of people can look after a child,…but you have to RAISE them to be responsible adults. Kids are not born with a conscience.

I agree, threats like that, especially in this day and age where almost weekly we read about a child or young adult killing should be taken seriously. I DO think children are born with something in them, I don't know what to call it that is cultivated as they grow that keeps you from crossing the line into murder. I just think something is missing in a child who can do this, something wrong. Who knows if he had been dealt with differently with counseling it may have all been avoided, We will never know now,

Mom with an 11 yr old, I am not attacking how you think. I am merely stating that telling someone that they are ignorant because their opinion does not match yours is wrong. Nothing more, nothing less.

I am a mother of 4 children myself, three of them teens!

Pixie, I agree with you...There is no excuse for murder. I am not expecting this kid to get a pat on his head and a popsicle, but DEATH, really? I think someone else should be done about this. But death is extreme.

Again, my first comment in no way attacked anyone…. Yes I do have compassion for Jordan. I do have compassion with Kenzie & Christopher too as well as Jordan & Kenzie & Christophers loved ones that are left behind. All the facts aren’t known! I just can’t stand to see people write such things about a child they have no compassion for no matter what he’s been through. People are saying kill him and what not… he’s an 11 year old CHILD I can’t say that enough…. only a monster would want this child killed for what he did…. I can’t help it…my heart aches for him… there is nothing we can do to change the fact that kenzie and baby are dead…but I do believe this child deserves a chance at healing.

Nope, I understand that your first comment was not attacking anyone, but they didn't attack you after you commented in the beginning. It was your second comment that had all the name calling. Which in turn, they called you names too. While, I would not want this child dead, I would want him evaluated for a period of time, therapy if you will while in a juvenile setting, then sent to prison for a while when he becomes of age so that way he knows that he can never do it again or else he will end up in that place again. I do not believe he should get off easily. But hey, if no one agrees with me, then fine, I'm not going to waste my time arguing about people's intelligence or how they are unhappy just because they disagree with my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and if you feel like you need to have the upper hand by putting others down, then so be it. It just goes to show how you are not contributing to anything of importance, nor how you feel on the matter.

thanks for all your attacks upon this educated mother... as far as ignorance you see more of it staring at you in the mirror... websters...you actually know what that is... im sure you use it often to look up those big words you don't know how to spell... careful lets not get on the real topic...we're too busy insulting one another now.... here let me act like an 11 year old and roll my eyes at you....

All I’m saying is let’s try to remember all the facts aren’t known and unless you’re an immediate family member that knows everything…. how about we presume he’s innocent until proven a monster?

But they don't agree with you. That's all there is to it.

Yes, it is you freaking out.

oh, that first paragraph was supposed to be a quote, ...wasn't sure how to do it. sorry