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Sarah Brasse Was Sick And Ignored

February 12, 2009 at 3:22 pm by  

Sarah Brasse Was Sick And IgnoredSamantha Amy Britain (Myspace) & David Brasse (Myspace)

Schertz, TX–Samantha Britain, 32, is a stay-at-home mom. Her fiancee, David Brasse, 35, is a trained EMT. Between the two of them, they have five children who rely and depend on them. Oh wait, make that four children. 8-year-old Sarah Brasse died February 5th…alone in her bedroom, sick and ignored.

Sarah was sick for two days…she hadn’t eaten, had been vomiting, and had diarrhea the entire time. The only care she received was from her 10-year-old brother. It was his responsibility to bring Sarah water and make sure she was covered up and taken care of. When police and emergency workers arrived on a call of an unresponsive and unconscious child, they found Sarah dead on her bedroom floor, her body already cold and stiff from rigor. An autopsy showed she died of appendicitis. Would she have lived had it been treated? The medical examiner stated, ‘It’s not just possible, but probable that she would have lived.’

Detective Jonathan Patrick stated in an arrest affidavit, ‘I immediately noticed the odor of something spoiled in the house. Later, I would discover that the smell was coming from places in the carpet, where the children had vomited and the vomit was never cleaned up. I found vomit stains throughout the house. In several places in the house, dried cat feces was smeared into the carpet.’ The rule in that household…you puke it up, you clean it up.

Samantha told investigators that she had spoken to Sarah just 15 minutes before making a call to 911 at 6:10 p.m. Hmmm…that’s weird. It only took 15 minutes for Sarah’s body to cool and stiffen? Lying bitch. Medical staff report that Sarah had been dead for at least 2 hours prior to the 911 call.

Samantha and David told investigators they did nothing wrong. The didn’t realize Sarah was that sick. Excuse me? Puking and shitting for two days straight, not to mention the pain from the appendicitis, and you didn’t notice? An EMT didn’t notice? Maybe you would have, had you not ignored her.

A 10-year-old boy was left in charge of all of the children. He was not only responsible for taking care of Sarah while she was sick, he was the one responsible for giving prescription medication to his 6-year old brother. That same 6-year-old is now hospitalized for a colon infection. More medical neglect. Someone, give that 10-year-old a pass to Disneyland. The kid deserves it.

Sarah’s biological mother, Jo-Anne Brasse, claims that she has been fighting for custody of Sarah and her two brothers since 2007. She also claims ‘there were ongoing signs of mental abuse and neglect inside the home for months.’ She repeatedly tried to have the children removed from their father’s home, but was denied in court due to lack of evidence. Well, I hope they have enough evidence now.

Samantha Britain and David Brasse were taken to the Guadalupe County jail. Bond had not been set as of Wednesday afternoon. They are both being charged with criminally negligent homicide.

All of the children are now being cared for by Brasse’s mother. Who, by the way, says her son is a great father! Yeah…I can totally see that. Another relative stated that another child in the home had been sick with a stomach virus…Samantha and David just assumed that Sarah had the same bug. It’s been my experience that a common stomach bug usually passes within 24-hours. Two entire days of vomiting signals a problem. You don’t even have to be a trained EMT to figure that out.

Sarah Brasse Was Sick And Ignored

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  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    Damn these morons. Damn them both straight to hell. Who puts a 10 year old in charge of sick siblings??

    I have 6 children ranging from nearly 15 to nearly 2. I don’t put one in charge of the other even when they are HEALTHY. You don’t even catch me on here when they’re awake when I’m at home! My message to people like this is the same as my message to the lady that just popped out 8 babies when she couldn’t take care of the 6 she already had:

    If you can’t take care of your kids, give them up to someone who can. An adult, mind you. Not a damn 10 year old!

  • ecvmanzo

    OMG..Not today please…

  • SoUncool

    I seriously can’t believe that their rule was for the sick kids to clean up after themselves. That’s just ridiculous and cruel.

  • Athena

    Here’s hoping for a rockstar DA and a less-than-inspired defense lawyer. Even if the other child DID have a stomach bug and the parents honestly thought it was the same thing, these people need to go away for a LONG time for their callous stupidity.

  • knotme

    Hell, they both LOOK like lazy asses!

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    Hell, they both LOOK like lazy asses!

    Yeah…I can’t respect anyone who leaves cat shit and vomit laying around on the carpet.

    And ignoring the cries of a sick and dying child? Heartless and cruel.

  • rhp2003

    She is much what i imagine my little Kati will look like in 3 years.

    Poor innocent children, will we ever wake up??? Poor girl died alone, I imagine scared. rest in the arms of an angel sweet girl. Sorry this is how you had to leave.

  • Justjae421

    You all have no idea what you’re talking about. This article and others are filled with misleading lies. I know first hand that these two lived for Sarah. Samantha was sick and trying to take care of Sarah. The 10 year old boy was HELPING so Sarah wouldn’t catch what she had. You are all being mislead by the media. Shame on the people feeding off this and spreading lies, and shame on all of you for just buying into it. This is destroying a family right before your eyes and all you want to do is exploit it like it’s not even real, but it’s real to them and it’s real to me. Believe me i know more of this story than any of you and lies are coming from this story. And to the person that wrote this piece of trash article, i know you have no idea what happened, and i know you want to make a dollar off this, but remember there is a nice warm seat in hell for people like you. By the way, you didn’t even get her name right, RESEARCH BEFORE YOU WRITE!!!! MORON

  • Not So Speechless

    Poor little angel. This makes me weep.

  • Justjae421

    You all have no idea what you’re talking about. This article and others are filled with misleading lies. I know first hand that these two lived for Sarah. Samantha was sick and trying to take care of Sarah. The 10 year old boy was HELPING so Sarah wouldn’t catch what she had. You are all being mislead by the media. Shame on the people feeding off this and spreading lies, and shame on all of you for just buying into it. This is destroying a family right before your eyes and all you want to do is exploit it like it’s not even real, but it’s real to them and it’s real to me. Believe me i know more of this story than any of you and lies are coming from this story. And to the person that wrote this piece of trash article, i know you have no idea what happened, and i know you want to make a dollar off this, but remember there is a nice warm seat in hell for people like you. By the way, you didn’t even get her name right, RESEARCH BEFORE YOU WRITE!!!! MORON

  • penelopejo

    You all have no idea what you’re talking about. This article and others are filled with misleading lies. I know first hand that these two lived for Sarah. Samantha was sick and trying to take care of Sarah. The 10 year old boy was HELPING so Sarah wouldn’t catch what she had. You are all being mislead by the media. Shame on the people feeding off this and spreading lies, and shame on all of you for just buying into it. This is destroying a family right before your eyes and all you want to do is exploit it like it’s not even real, but it’s real to them and it’s real to me. Believe me i know more of this story than any of you and lies are coming from this story. And to the person that wrote this piece of trash article, i know you have no idea what happened, and i know you want to make a dollar off this, but remember there is a nice warm seat in hell for people like you. By the way, you didn’t even get her name right, RESEARCH BEFORE YOU WRITE!!!! MORON

    There is a nice place in hell for them too. Honey, 2 days of throwing up and bad diarrhea wouldn’t tell you to take your child to the doctor? Him being an EMT didn’t know that his child had appendicitis? Come on now. You say that they cared for her but not enough for them to pay attention to her pain and suffering and you say we’re going to hell. Screw you. This site does not make money off of this. This is a public shaming site. Nothing more nothing less.

    Read this while you’re at it: http://www.dreamindemon.com/gunshot-by-computer/

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    You all have no idea what you’re talking about. This article and others are filled with misleading lies. I know first hand that these two lived for Sarah. Samantha was sick and trying to take care of Sarah. The 10 year old boy was HELPING so Sarah wouldn’t catch what she had. You are all being mislead by the media. Shame on the people feeding off this and spreading lies, and shame on all of you for just buying into it. This is destroying a family right before your eyes and all you want to do is exploit it like it’s not even real, but it’s real to them and it’s real to me. Believe me i know more of this story than any of you and lies are coming from this story. And to the person that wrote this piece of trash article, i know you have no idea what happened, and i know you want to make a dollar off this, but remember there is a nice warm seat in hell for people like you. By the way, you didn’t even get her name right, RESEARCH BEFORE YOU WRITE!!!! MORON

    Make a dollar? HA! That’s cute. As far as research goes…I did. Every single news article I looked at are saying the exact same thing that I reported here. If you have substantial proof that Sarah wasn’t dead and cold in her bedroom from appendicitis, I’d love to see it!

    And what about the 6-year-old? Why is he now in the hospital?

    As far as a warm seat in hell? Honey, I’ve had mine reserved for years!

  • johndoe26

    you don’t know him or the family, keep your opinions to yourself!! all this article is doing is spreading lies!!

  • penelopejo

    you don’t know him or the family, keep your opinions to yourself!! all this article is doing is spreading lies!!

    Ha….they didn’t take care of her as they should have. They both deserve to be charged in her death. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THEY SOUGHT MEDICAL HELP!! It’s appendicitis. But they didn’t care. If they did, their daughter would be alive right now. And I can say whatever the hell I want to say about them. How bout I talk about their raggedy assed teeth while I’m at it?

  • johndoe26

    thats not sarahs mother if you actually took the time to read the story, talk about her all you want

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    thats not sarahs mother if you actually took the time to read the story, talk about her all you want

    What are you talking about?

  • johndoe26

    Ha….they didn’t take care of her as they should have. They both deserve to be charged in her death. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THEY SOUGHT MEDICAL HELP!! It’s appendicitis. But they didn’t care. If they did, their daughter would be alive right now. And I can say whatever the hell I want to say about them. How bout I talk about their raggedy assed teeth while I’m at it?

  • Lavonna

    You all have no idea what you’re talking about. This article and others are filled with misleading lies. I know first hand that these two lived for Sarah. Samantha was sick and trying to take care of Sarah. The 10 year old boy was HELPING so Sarah wouldn’t catch what she had. You are all being mislead by the media. Shame on the people feeding off this and spreading lies, and shame on all of you for just buying into it. This is destroying a family right before your eyes and all you want to do is exploit it like it’s not even real, but it’s real to them and it’s real to me. Believe me i know more of this story than any of you and lies are coming from this story. And to the person that wrote this piece of trash article, i know you have no idea what happened, and i know you want to make a dollar off this, but remember there is a nice warm seat in hell for people like you. By the way, you didn’t even get her name right, RESEARCH BEFORE YOU WRITE!!!! MORON

    Shame on us? Uh excuse me bitch we are not the ones who wouldn’t take our children to the dr.
    I spent 7 fucking hours in the hospital Tuesday evening after I got off work because my youngest one (15) throwing up and stomach pains and back pains. They ran blood work and a CT scan which show that she only had a stomach virus. If your stupid bitch of a friend (who doesn’t work) would have acted like a mother instead of a mother fucker her child might still be alive.

  • johndoe26

    and what does their teeth have to do with anything?

  • Justjae421

    As far as research goes you know nothing. all of you do not know what you’re talking about. This is my family, I know all these people, Sarah was my niece. So if you want to just damn people you don’t know because you heard some lies, go ahead. It’s your judgement.

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    Ahhh yes, and the cockroaches begin to scramble out of the woodwork. “The police are lying”, “the grandmother is lying”, the “press is lying”, hell…”even the rigored body on the floor is lying!”

    I could be halfway to rigor myself, and if my child was puking, double over in pain, not eating and messing all over the place FOR TWO DAMN DAYS, I still wouldn’t put a 10 year old in charge of her and would still drag my half rigored ass out of the house to take her to the damn doctor!

    It’s called parenting! It’s not a job for a 10 year old!

    If you don’t like what you see, get the hell off the site. It truely is that simple.

  • Lavonna

    thats not sarahs mother if you actually took the time to read the story, talk about her all you want

    LIke that matters? The bitch was supposed to be taking care of her!

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    As far as research goes you know nothing. all of you do not know what you’re talking about. This is my family, I know all these people, Sarah was my niece. So if you want to just damn people you don’t know because you heard some lies, go ahead. It’s your judgement.

    Did Sarah die from appendicitis? Had she been throwing up for two days? Was she dead on her bedroom floor? Was there dried vomit scattered through the home? Is there another child in the hospital right now for a colon infection?

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    As far as research goes you know nothing. all of you do not know what you’re talking about. This is my family, I know all these people, Sarah was my niece. So if you want to just damn people you don’t know because you heard some lies, go ahead. It’s your judgement.

    Sarah’s biological mother, Jo-Anne Brasse, claims that she has been fighting for custody of Sarah and her two brothers since 2007. She also claims ‘there were ongoing signs of mental abuse and neglect inside the home for months.’ She repeatedly tried to have the children removed from their father’s home, but was denied in court due to lack of evidence.

    .

    At least one of Sarah’s family members knew otherwise.

  • Castille

    48 hours is still typical for a stomach virus and not especially concerning. But when your child is so sick, I can’t concieve of not caring for her in a hands on way – the way in which you’d notice things were bad and getting worse. Where the severe pain that accompanies appendicitis would become apparent and concern you enough to consult a Dr. If you can’t be there to offer real *adult* care for a very sick child because you’re working, or you’re sick, you call someone else to come do so. If there isn’t anyone else, you call in from work or you muscle through your own illness. But when your kid is too sick to be in your face annoying you while home sick from school, they need real monitoring. Lying dead for 2 hours, it seems clear this sweet girl didn’t have the benefit of that. And it would’ve saved her life, even if you did honestly mistake appendicitis for a stomach virus initially.

  • Lizard

    and what does their teeth have to do with anything?

    LOL!

    Fail!

  • Justjae421

    Jo-Anne Brasse lost her kids because she was trying to do horrible things to them, no one mentions that.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    Jo-Anne Brasse lost her kids because she was trying to do horrible things to them, no one mentions that.

    If I had had the information in front of me, I would have mentioned that. But, this story isn’t about Jo-Anne.

  • thatsmallgrl

    The 10 year old boy was HELPING so Sarah wouldn’t catch what she had. You are all being mislead by the media.

    I have a serious problem with this statement. Ummm….. Part of being a parent, (and in this case step-parent) is taking care of sick children. That’s way beyond fucking selfish to not want to catch what the child has. But even better for the 10yr old to catch it then? What a fucking stupid statement. I hope you don’t have any kids that you could “catch” something from, you ignorant bastard.

    you don’t know him or the family, keep your opinions to yourself!! all this article is doing is spreading lies!!

    And as for you…. America has the right to free speech. We will make opinions of these fucking assholes all we want. You don’t like it, don’t fucking read it. There, problem solved.

    And for the both of you together, fuck off. You wanna defend a bunch of heartless bastards, go do it somewhere else. No one cares what you think of these fucking people. For an EMT not to be able to help his own daughter is absolutely disgusting!! And fuck the system that wouldn’t allow their birth mother to have her children. This is also on your heads.

  • Not So Speechless

    In dad’s myspace- the pic of Sarah has a comment by Samantha that says “Princess Sarah” – In another of David and Sarah, Samantha comment – “I love her daddy.”
    Jealousy killed this little girl.

  • Lizard

    Jo-Anne Brasse lost her kids because she was trying to do horrible things to them, no one mentions that.

    Oddly enough, it doesn’t sound like Jo-Anne was in the immediate vicinity when Sarah died.

  • SoUncool

    If this is your family and your little niece, why didn’t you help clean up their filthy puke and shit encrusted house and help take care of those kids? Don’t even try to defend them if you couldn’t be bothered to step in and help. You give some other proof, you can post it here. You find some police report that says otherwise, it’ll be posted. But for now, we’re going to shame them just like the uncaring fuckheads that they are. You commit a crime or do something heinous and newsworthy, you are open to public scrutiny.

  • Athena

    Jo-Anne Brasse lost her kids because she was trying to do horrible things to them, no one mentions that.

    That’s because Jo-Anne wasn’t responsible for them when one DIED. This isn’t about the biological mother. Now, if you’d like to address So Jaded’s questions, that would be helpful. If not, we’re going to have to lump you in with all the other obtuse, belligerent family members who show up here to defend monsters.

    By the way – Our authors work on a volunteer basis because they all share an interest in shedding light on abusive scum. No one here is “making a dollar”. No one. In fact, this website costs the administrators money to maintain.

  • johndoe26

    of course no one mentions that, they are making her out to be an amazing mother who was “fighting for her kids for over a year” but they never say why she had them taken away in the first place

    and lizard it was really a legit question, i really don’t understand what their teeth have to do with any of this?

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    of course no one mentions that, they are making her out to be an amazing mother who was “fighting for her kids for over a year” but they never say why she had them taken away in the first place

    And you are dodging my questions. If you know so much about the family, help us out…shed a little light on the situation.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    As far as research goes you know nothing. all of you do not know what you’re talking about. This is my family, I know all these people, Sarah was my niece. So if you want to just damn people you don’t know because you heard some lies, go ahead. It’s your judgement.

    I have a feeling you are about to find out a lot of fucked up shit about your relatives as the case unfolds. I am sorry for you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    Did Sarah die from appendicitis? Had she been throwing up for two days? Was she dead on her bedroom floor? Was there dried vomit scattered through the home? Is there another child in the hospital right now for a colon infection?

    In case you missed them, here are the questions again.

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    And another interesting one from SoUncool:

    If this is your family and your little niece, why didn’t you help clean up their filthy puke and shit encrusted house and help take care of those kids? Don’t even try to defend them if you couldn’t be bothered to step in and help.

  • Lizard

    and lizard it was really a legit question, i really don’t understand what their teeth have to do with any of this?

    Penelopejo was needling you, pointing out that she can say pretty much whatever she wants. And it just so happens that their teeth do not look well cared for.

    Look, honestly, we don’t want to fight. But seriously, a beautiful little girl is needlessly dead. Why? Why is she dead? Are we to think the dad and stepmother are blameless?

  • Justjae421

    you’re spreading lies. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Everyone is forming an opinion based on what they read and hear in the media, but the media doesn’t even know. How can you not understand that? I guess your mind is just so empty and your life is so pathetic that you must thrive on the misery of others. My niece died because of a horrible accedent. This is none of your business. I don’t care if you’re making money off this, or just exploiting it for attention, either way, you should mind your own business. This is my family you’re slandering and i refuse to sit here while you try to justify yourself based on garbage you hear or make up.

  • johndoe26

    no one knows the full story yet, the media is twisting everything to make a good story out of it, surprise surprise

    the truth will come out, her father loved her this is such bullshit

  • Justjae421

    First off i live hundreds of miles from there. Also there wasn’t puke everywhere. Thats a lie, AND there was a full cat litter box. SO WHAT? Is it illegal to not change your cat’s little box? They stick and they get full fast. this is NOT the issue.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    You’re defense sucks. You can’t even answer a few simple questions to clear things up. If you think you know the ‘truth’….tell us.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    First off i live hundreds of miles from there. Also there wasn’t puke everywhere. Thats a lie, AND there was a full cat litter box. SO WHAT? Is it illegal to not change your cat’s little box? They stick and they get full fast. this is NOT the issue.

    Who cares about the damn cat shit? Was she or was she not dead and cold on her bedroom floor from appendicitis that had gone untreated?

  • biteme

    and what does their teeth have to do with anything?

    we see the ugly no soul inside from the outside

  • penelopejo

    you’re spreading lies. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Everyone is forming an opinion based on what they read and hear in the media, but the media doesn’t even know. How can you not understand that? I guess your mind is just so empty and your life is so pathetic that you must thrive on the misery of others. My niece died because of a horrible accedent. This is none of your business. I don’t care if you’re making money off this, or just exploiting it for attention, either way, you should mind your own business. This is my family you’re slandering and i refuse to sit here while you try to justify yourself based on garbage you hear or make up.

    No one is spreading lies. It’s in the police report. The EMT’s who arrived on scene determined she died a while before 911 was dialed. It’s not our fault your niece died at the hands of the people who are supposed to protect her. David should’ve realized that something was drastically wrong with her when she didn’t get better or wasn’t eating. So sad her life had to be snuffed out due to idiotic parents.

    I said this:

    How bout I talk about their raggedy assed teeth while I’m at it?

    In response to this:

    you don’t know him or the family, keep your opinions to yourself!! all this article is doing is spreading lies!!

    Because I don’t have to keep my opinions to myself. They do have raggedy assed teeth. And that is a fact.

  • johndoe26

    whats the point? you are going to believe the media anyways right? because if a reporter says it or you read it on the internet its true right??

  • knotme

    LAZY ASSES!

    What these two people aren’t is: Responsible Adults, Compassionate Adults, Unselfish Adults or even acting like…ADULTS! This man and woman were only together because they liked sleeping in the same bed… end of story. The kids are oft times unwanted baggage by the new partner. DD has recorded enough “evidence” of that fact for the general public to pretty-much realize what’s REALLY going-on in a situation like this one. Telling little kids to clean-up their own vomit and poop is bad enough, but the lazy bitch wouldn’t even clean up after the cat! Talk to the hand Justjae421 and johndoe26… duh

  • Lizard

    A child dead and cold on her floor and in full rigor is “an accident.” I hope someone is going to explain this, because I’m really eager to hear it.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    whats the point? you are going to believe the media anyways right? because if a reporter says it or you read it on the internet its true right??

    I’m willing to listen…but I don’t think you have anything.

  • Lizard

    whats the point? you are going to believe the media anyways right? because if a reporter says it or you read it on the internet its true right??

    We might believe you, if you had anything to actually say. If it happened differently, then tell us how.

  • Lavonna

    And for the both of you together, fuck off. You wanna defend a bunch of heartless bastards, go do it somewhere else. No one cares what you think of these fucking people. For an EMT not to be able to help his own daughter is absolutely disgusting!! And fuck the system that wouldn’t allow their birth mother to have her children. This is also on your heads.

    I agree that it is disgusting for an EMT not able (nor seem to care) about his child.
    Fucking assholes

  • penelopejo

    whats the point? you are going to believe the media anyways right? because if a reporter says it or you read it on the internet its true right??

    No. We’re going by arrest affidavits of the police men and women who were on the scene when they found that her body was cold and hard.

    First off i live hundreds of miles from there. Also there wasn’t puke everywhere. Thats a lie, AND there was a full cat litter box. SO WHAT? Is it illegal to not change your cat’s little box? They stick and they get full fast. this is NOT the issue.

    If you live hundreds of miles away, how the fuck do you know that there wasn’t any puke anywhere and there wasn’t shit stains and shit on the floor from the cat?

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    It’s only slander if it’s not true.

    Truth: Sarah died of appendicitis because these two morons didn’t take her to the doctor.

    P.S. You live 500 miles away and couldn’t help, but somehow you know there wasn’t puke everywhere? Those darn lying detectives, setting up these two poor souls like that. If only the detectives would’ve consulted you first. You could’ve used your psychic ability and told them that the puke on the floor wasn’t actually puke on the floor, I suppose.

  • Lavonna

    you’re spreading lies. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Everyone is forming an opinion based on what they read and hear in the media, but the media doesn’t even know. How can you not understand that? I guess your mind is just so empty and your life is so pathetic that you must thrive on the misery of others. My niece died because of a horrible accedent. This is none of your business. I don’t care if you’re making money off this, or just exploiting it for attention, either way, you should mind your own business. This is my family you’re slandering and i refuse to sit here while you try to justify yourself based on garbage you hear or make up.

    You refuse to sit there? Like, what are you going to do? NOTHING

  • Justjae421

    Every comment i read has false statements. I don’t know how to address them all at once so give me second. First off, whoever wants to talk about there teeth should get out because 4 year olds have no business on this web page. Now, Sarah was not dead on the floor. samantha went to check on her and she was in the bed. she pulled her off the bed to a flat serface to perform CPR. She was mildly sick and went home from school with an order for bed rest. Samantha was checking on her and taking care of her with the help of the 10 year old. It was an accedent, and before you judge people you don’t know, think of the monster you are.

  • johndoe26

    there are family members living in the house moron, i guess its just wayyyyy out of the question that they could have talked to them and found out if there was puke everywhere or not?

  • Deety

    I have a serious problem with this statement. Ummm….. Part of being a parent, (and in this case step-parent) is taking care of sick children. That’s way beyond fucking selfish to not want to catch what the child has. But even better for the 10yr old to catch it then?

    In vague defense of the idiot, I think he was trying to say they left Sarah in the care of the ten year old so Sarah wouldn’t catch step-mom’s illness. ‘Cause, you know, that makes everything all right.

    I think the difference between stomach flu and dying of appendicitis would be noticeable. That is, if anybody’s paying attention to the child who is in agonizing pain.

  • penelopejo

    there are family members living in the house moron, i guess its just wayyyyy out of the question that they could have talked to them and found out if there was puke everywhere or not?

    you mean the children who were staying there? Yeah, like if they haven’t been traumatized enough that their sister is now dead due to these 2 fucktards.

  • Castille

    whats the point? you are going to believe the media anyways right? because if a reporter says it or you read it on the internet its true right??

    I might just believe you. If you had a good, credible explanation for how this little girl ended up dead on her floor long enough to be cold and rigored that still involved her caretakers being faithful and responsible in their obligations to her.

  • Justjae421

    well normaly i wouldn’t be on this stupid site talking shit about people i don’t know like a patheitc drone, but since you’re talking about my family i decided to help you with your facts. And if you have a problem with what i’m saying, and you want to try to threaten me, come on over here.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    Every comment i read has false statements. I don’t know how to address them all at once so give me second. First off, whoever wants to talk about there teeth should get out because 4 year olds have no business on this web page. Now, Sarah was not dead on the floor. samantha went to check on her and she was in the bed. she pulled her off the bed to a flat serface to perform CPR. She was mildly sick and went home from school with an order for bed rest. Samantha was checking on her and taking care of her with the help of the 10 year old. It was an accedent, and before you judge people you don’t know, think of the monster you are.

    When Sarah was pronounced dead, the medical staff said that she had been dead for approximately 2 hours. Rigor was already setting in when she was first found in the home. That is what you are denying?

  • Athena

    I think the difference between stomach flu and dying of appendicitis would be noticeable. That is, if anybody’s paying attention to the child who is in agonizing pain.

    Not necessarily, as appendicitis progresses rather quickly.

    I just don’t understand why these people think that their word, even though they weren’t even there, should mean more than the word of police and EMTs that were on the scene. And why JJ421 keeps substituting the “i” for an “e” in “accident”.

  • Lizard

    The child had RIGOR MORTIS. Don’t you get that? It takes TIME for rigor to develop–like, 3 hours. She came home sick and was not checked on for HOURS?

  • Lavonna

    Every comment i read has false statements. I don’t know how to address them all at once so give me second. First off, whoever wants to talk about there teeth should get out because 4 year olds have no business on this web page. Now, Sarah was not dead on the floor. samantha went to check on her and she was in the bed. she pulled her off the bed to a flat serface to perform CPR. She was mildly sick and went home from school with an order for bed rest. Samantha was checking on her and taking care of her with the help of the 10 year old. It was an accedent, and before you judge people you don’t know, think of the monster you are.

    It was an accident? BULL SHIT accident is dropping a plate you are drying.. A child dying in her own bed from being sick is neglect and stupid.

  • solange822001

    Dear god, how can people be so heartless? Why do these evil, heartless monsters pop out kid after kid after kid after kid after kid after kid?? If you cant take care of the first one, or second, or third, why do you bring another victim into this world??? What is wrong with people like this?????? Is it for the welfare money? I just don’t comprehend it, this is insanity!

  • penelopejo

    well normaly i wouldn’t be on this stupid site talking shit about people i don’t know like a patheitc drone, but since you’re talking about my family i decided to help you with your facts. And if you have a problem with what i’m saying, and you want to try to threaten me, come on over here.

    Honey, it sounds like you’re the one doing the threatening since we’re pointing out the cold hard facts about this case. These parents are fucktards. You’re the one who is inviting us. No one wants violence but you. It’s sad that you can’t realize your niece died because they decided they didn’t want to get help. Instead of saying, my niece is gone and hope you have a good explanation for what happened, you are saying, You guys are stupid. They cared about her and it was an accident that she was dead for 2 hours before 911 was called. Yeah, loving family right there.(sarcasm if you can’t tell.)

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    So the detective who smelled the smell and found the puke everywhere is setting these two angels up, is that what you’re saying???

    Did the medical staff who stated she’d been dead for 2 hours lie too? Or did she when she said she’d talked to her 15 minutes before calling?

    These two poor little innocent people. So many out to get them. So many people lying about them. They’ve been framed, I tell you. Framed!

  • Lavonna

    well normaly i wouldn’t be on this stupid site talking shit about people i don’t know like a patheitc drone, but since you’re talking about my family i decided to help you with your facts. And if you have a problem with what i’m saying, and you want to try to threaten me, come on over here.

    I don’t see where you were threaten.

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    I just don’t understand why these people think their their word, even though they weren’t even there, should mean more than the word of police and EMTs that were on the scene. And why JJ421 keeps substituting the “i” for an “e” in “accident”.

    Because it’s all lies! LOL. It’s a damn set up, I tell you! ;)

  • solange822001

    well normaly i wouldn’t be on this stupid site talking shit about people i don’t know like a patheitc drone, but since you’re talking about my family i decided to help you with your facts. And if you have a problem with what i’m saying, and you want to try to threaten me, come on over here.

    Shut the fuck up idiot. A child should NOT die from appendicitis. This child was neglected severely. How dare you defend them? Go to hell!

  • Justjae421

    I see no one wants to listen to reason. You just want to keep edjucating me on things i obviously know FAR more about than you. I have read what you’ve read, but i also have spoken to people who know more than the media. But you are all unable to listen or maybe just to stupid to understand. All i can tell you is that last week my niece died, it was the single worse news i have ever heard in my whole life. Now her parents are being blamed. I have seen them all together, they lived for there kids. they love there kids more than the air they breathe. Now something horrible happened and all of you are telling me how they are with the kids, and insulting them, and insulting me? I don’t understand anything thats happeneing, but my family is crumbling into ash, and you are chatting about it while my heart is breaking. I don’t expect you to understand this or even think twice about what i’m saying. All i want to say is, i know these people. they are good people. I know this for a fact. If you say i’m wrong, you’re a fool, because i know otherwise.

  • Justjae421

    Shut the fuck up idiot. A child should NOT die from appendicitis. This child was neglected severely. How dare you defend them? Go to hell!

    thats my family. i can defend them if i see fit. You pig. You brainless criminal. what do you know? you sleeze bag. You go to hell! choke on sausage and die.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I see no one wants to listen to reason. You just want to keep edjucating me on things i obviously know FAR more about than you. I have read what you’ve read, but i also have spoken to people who know more than the media. But you are all unable to listen or maybe just to stupid to understand.

    You aren’t giving us any information to go on…you are asking us to take you on your word. I’ve asked you a couple of times to enlighten us and you don’t..or can’t. You have nothing to back up your defense. Nothing.

    This was a preventable death, not an accident. Sarah should still be alive today.

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    No stupid. We’re not saying anything. The police said it. The medical staff said it. We didn’t make this shit up. You, however, are claiming that THEY DID.

    While I do feel for your loss, you need to wake the hell up and realize that these charges weren’t filed for no damn reason.

    This isn’t a set up, and that’s what you’re basically claiming that it is.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    thats my family. i can defend them if i see fit. You pig. You brainless criminal. what do you know? you sleeze bag. You go to hell! choke on sausage and die.

    And we may defend our opinions.

    Choke on a sausage and die? For real? Please…..

  • penelopejo

    I see no one wants to listen to reason. You just want to keep edjucating me on things i obviously know FAR more about than you. I have read what you’ve read, but i also have spoken to people who know more than the media. But you are all unable to listen or maybe just to stupid to understand. All i can tell you is that last week my niece died, it was the single worse news i have ever heard in my whole life. Now her parents are being blamed. I have seen them all together, they lived for there kids. they love there kids more than the air they breathe. Now something horrible happened and all of you are telling me how they are with the kids, and insulting them, and insulting me? I don’t understand anything thats happeneing, but my family is crumbling into ash, and you are chatting about it while my heart is breaking. I don’t expect you to understand this or even think twice about what i’m saying. All i want to say is, i know these people. they are good people. I know this for a fact. If you say i’m wrong, you’re a fool, because i know otherwise.

    You haven’t said anything other than they were good parents to her and that it was an accident. There’s nothing else that you have said. You come on here calling us morons when it seems to me we know more facts than you do about what went on in that home in the last few days of her life. It is heartbreaking that she died. It is even more heartbreaking that she died from something that could’ve been treated had they paid attention to what she was saying. David, being an EMT, could’ve easily said, Honey, we need to take her to the hospital. She’s not eating and is not getting any better. but he didn’t. She was dead for at least 2 to 3 hours before 911 was called and you say this was an accident. If only these parents had paid attention, she’d be alive and recuperating in the hospital as I type. But instead, she is going to be buried 6 feet in the ground due to the negligence of these parents.

  • Athena

    All i want to say is, i know these people. they are good people.

    Most people are good people right up until they do something bad. So, while we do feel for your loss, that doesn’t distract us from the fact that you are unable to explain/debunk the statements made by the police and EMTs that responded to the call.

    I can imagine how awful it would be to find out that my sibling was responsible for the death of my niece. I might have a hard time grasping it, for awhile. But there’s nothing you can say to defend these people because their actions are simply indefensible. For it to be any other way, it would have to be a conspiracy that involves dozens of people. That just doesn’t happen with these cases. They were arrested because there was ample cause to do so, cause that has been confirmed by medical professionals.

  • penelopejo

    thats my family. i can defend them if i see fit. You pig. You brainless criminal. what do you know? you sleeze bag. You go to hell! choke on sausage and die.

    Solange, do you eat sausage? If you do, I’ll be there to do the Heimlich on you in case if you choke. At least that’s what a responsible person would do to save someone’s life.

  • Deety

    Kids get appendicitis all the time. They don’t usually end up dead because of it, especially when one of their parents works in the medical field. And while Athena pointed out that appendicitis can progress rapidly, I’m sure there were signs that WAS progressing. Unfortunately, the only one who would have seen those signs was TEN, and not capable of telling the difference between SICK and DYING.

  • Shizz

    Wake up Jae, stop letting the blood ties keep you from seeing this tragedy with clarity.
    It was NOT an accident and it WAS highly preventable.

    Neglect. Selfishness. Stupidity. Ignorance. A parent putting themselves BEFORE their children. Not seeking medical attention for their child who was seriously suffering . Wake up!

  • Justjae421

    You know what you have read, i know what happened. I have tried to tell you. You won’t listen. the police report is filled with exaggeration and lies. The medical reports are not concrete yet. The media is stretching the truth and people like you are making it all worse. Remember innocent UNTIL proven guilty? Anyone remember that? They will be innocent, because there was no cause for this. If there is any justice left. As for you tools, i suspect karma will be visiting you. No need to reply i’m out of this stupid site. Hope you all have a great day.

  • penelopejo

    You know what you have read, i know what happened. I have tried to tell you. You won’t listen. the police report is filled with exaggeration and lies. The medical reports are not concrete yet. The media is stretching the truth and people like you are making it all worse. Remember innocent UNTIL proven guilty? Anyone remember that? They will be innocent, because there was no cause for this. If there is any justice left. As for you tools, i suspect karma will be visiting you. No need to reply i’m out of this stupid site. Hope you all have a great day.

    We just had a discussion over in our forums about that phrase. The entire thing is Presumed Innocent Until Proven Guilty. And we are not the justice system, so we do not have to adhere to this phrase. As I said before, I can say anything I want to about these raggedy toothed parents. But I’ll just stick to the facts about the case.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    You know what you have read, i know what happened. I have tried to tell you. You won’t listen. the police report is filled with exaggeration and lies. The medical reports are not concrete yet. The media is stretching the truth and people like you are making it all worse. Remember innocent UNTIL proven guilty? Anyone remember that? They will be innocent, because there was no cause for this. If there is any justice left. As for you tools, i suspect karma will be visiting you. No need to reply i’m out of this stupid site. Hope you all have a great day.

    Don’t let the door hitcha in the ass…..
    Worst. Defender. Ever.

  • jj999

    you’re spreading lies. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Everyone is forming an opinion based on what they read and hear in the media, but the media doesn’t even know. How can you not understand that? I guess your mind is just so empty and your life is so pathetic that you must thrive on the misery of others. My niece died because of a horrible accedent. This is none of your business. I don’t care if you’re making money off this, or just exploiting it for attention, either way, you should mind your own business. This is my family you’re slandering and i refuse to sit here while you try to justify yourself based on garbage you hear or make up.

    Um, so you are saying that these two people have been arrested and are in jail because they are wonderful parents??
    I gues that adorable little blond daughter didn’t actually die and lay on the floor alone until she was cold because nobody noticed?
    Perhaps the child that is in the hospital with a colon infection is just faking his illness to cause these two wonderful, perfect, angelic parents problems?
    You are an ass. An absolute ass.

  • Concerned Citizen

    My husband had appendicitis last year. For the first 12 hours, he only complained of a gassy feeling, but then all of a sudden, he was rolling around in the floor screaming. It happened very fast.
    Still, it concerns me that everyone knew Sarah was sick, yet she had been dead for a few hours without anyone noticing. I completely understand that this was accidental, but it was an accident, created out of negligence, that could’ve been prevented. There were apparently too many children in the home for these two adults to properly care for.

  • Athena

    You know what you have read, i know what happened. I have tried to tell you. You won’t listen. the police report is filled with exaggeration and lies. The medical reports are not concrete yet. The media is stretching the truth and people like you are making it all worse. Remember innocent UNTIL proven guilty? Anyone remember that? They will be innocent, because there was no cause for this. If there is any justice left. As for you tools, i suspect karma will be visiting you. No need to reply i’m out of this stupid site. Hope you all have a great day.

    HOW do you know what happened? Because you’ve spoken with OTHER family members who weren’t there, either? That’s simply not good enough. The presumption of innocence only pertains to the courts, by the way. Lastly, if they are acquitted, this story will be edited to reflect that. Although, I’ll tell you, you could count the number of times we’ve been wrong on one hand… and have digits left over.

    If these people are convicted, which is likely, at this point, I hope you find peace.

  • jj999

    well normaly i wouldn’t be on this stupid site talking shit about people i don’t know like a patheitc drone, but since you’re talking about my family i decided to help you with your facts. And if you have a problem with what i’m saying, and you want to try to threaten me, come on over here.

    Exactly what facts have you relayed to us so far? You just keep saying that what the police reports say are lies.

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    Poor, sweet, girl! My mother had appendicitis during my senior year of high school. We took her to the ER twice in the period of one weekend. They treated it as a stomach virus. She went to the bathroom the second night and collapsed. When we got back to the ER, the attending surgeon got my dad to sign an exploratory surgery form. He bluntly told us that my mother was going into shock and would die. They ran all kinds of test, but could not discover what the problem was.
    Well, turned out that my mom indeed had appendicitis and they ruptured. It was found out during the surgery. She was hospitalized for ten days for peritonitis. (Nurse Rhonda, I hope my spelling isn’t too bad on these medical terms :) ). Seems my mom’s family has a history of this. Mom’s brother followed the same senario. Their white blood cell count does not elevate.
    My point is, this is an awfully painful sickness with equally awful consequences. When my child either the 7 or the 17 year old throws up for more than eight hours their asses are at the ER asap! For that matter, any tummy ache their asses are there as well. I do not want a repeat of mom and my uncle!
    This little girl wasn’t given that opportunity. They as well murdered this precious child by ignoring her symptoms and not seeking help, as if they had shot her.
    There is no defense for these fucktards! Rest in peace, Sweet Sarah!

  • Deety

    You know what you have read, i know what happened. I have tried to tell you. You won’t listen. the police report is filled with exaggeration and lies. The medical reports are not concrete yet.

    The police and doctors have no reason to lie about what happened. The stepmom has EVERY reason to lie, to make her inexcusable neglect of a child in her care seem somehow reasonable.

    Don’t let the door hitcha in the ass…..
    Worst. Defender. Ever.

    Hey now, telling Solange to choke on a sausage and die WAS pretty funny. Defender should get bonus points for that. :)

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    Hey now, telling Solange to choke on a sausage and die WAS pretty funny. Defender should get bonus points for that.

    Yeah…I got his defender points right here. ;)

  • Kdogg

    I know medical care in jail can be very neglectful. Here’s hoping these two experience it full force. And sorry, good parents actually check on their kids, listen to them when they cry and get them help when they need it, not let them suffer. And the fact the ten year was in charge of all them. Good parents my ass!!

  • boilly

    Justjae421 – I can’t even read your comments they are so full of spelling errors. Any parents I know that actually “love there kids more than the air they breathe” don’t leave them to die on the bedroom floor. Think about it? That just doesn’t make sense now does it? Think hard.

  • silvahalo

    “Good people”, parents in this case, don’t let a child go days vomiting and with diarrhea, and NOT take them to get care. IF these people were entirely ignorant, I might say they were careless and didn’t act quick enough. But it stands that the father is an EMT. There is no excuse not knowing what should have been done. Furthermore, there is no excuse for ignoring a child to be cared for by a 10 year old sibling. Can’t excuse the house being in horrid mess either. Likely the children were all sick from the infested piece of shit house they lived in.

    The fact is this child is dead. As parents you failed….FAILED MISERABLY!!….
    and there’s no going back on that.

    Rest in peace beautiful Sarah….so sorry sweet one.

  • ecvmanzo

    One of my boys, once had swimmers ear. His ear bled like someone had stabbed his ear. I took him to the doctor immediately, and had him treated.

    His treatment was a bitch. Every two hours I had to place some drops in his ears, even in the middle of the night. I must tell you, it almost took a week of the drops every two hours. On top of that, I had 2 other children that had to be taken to and from school, and a newborn infant. I did not get much sleep that week. But guess what, I took care of him, not his siblings.

    That is what parents are supposed to do, not pass the buck to a child.

    This was not an accident, it was neglect! I can’t even imagine the pain, fear and loneliness this beautiful little girl endured. Breaks anyone’s heart, well anyone with a HEART! God rest her precious soul, and hopefully the other child goes to a loving home, wherever that may be.

  • MAjustaMom

    God forbid one of my relatives ends up on this site, if I were related to someone like this – I wouldn’t admit it. We all want to believe that our families & friends are perfect but I’m having a hard time believing the relatives of these two skanks. When my twin boys were 11 months old I was completely run down, it took me forever to drag my butt to the doctor’s because I felt they needed more attention than me, when I finally got there I was diagnosed with pnuemonia. My doctor said normally he’d hospitalize someone in my condition as it was so bad but he knew I would be so worried about my babies that I wouldn’t get better so he sent me home with my promise to rest. I called my sister and she came over to help my husband so I could rest. I took 2 days off from nursing them and got enough rest to resume. I’m no hero, I’m a MOM, whether your the biological or step MOM – that’s what you do. Within a week after I was diagnosed, both boys had stomach viruses and guess what – I took them to the doctor, I’m the MOM – that’s what we do. NOTHING is going to prevent me (or any decent MOM/Dad) from taking care of their children. (I am not Dad-bashing but typically Mom does the brunt of the care).

    The fact that this scumdad was an EMT makes this whole thing unexcusable. Would he have cared more if it was a stranger’s home he was called to and taken them to the hospital?

    We don’t know why the biological Mom did not have custody but typically there are good reasons, however, many “unfit” parents have turned themselves around. She very likely was trying to prove there was reason to get them out of that house but, unfortunately, DSS/CFS calls and schedules appointments so, in the case of puke and feces on the floor, they’ve got time to “clean up” and make it look presentable. I work for an attorney and we had a hard time proving an unfit mother one time, as the appts. were always scheduled in advance, but still, every time DSS arrived a “friend” from the church was “cleaning” the house and it was “presentable”. Fortunately the school officials got involved and were able to present a case and the girls were placed with their Dad, once out of the house and away from neglectful mom, they told DSS was what really happening, including how they would “practice” what to say to DSS when they came. I could go on and on, but won’t!

    There is no excuse for these two and I hope the 6 year old pulls through and never has to live with either of these two again. I hope the biological mother has cleaned up her act and is granted custody, or, if not her, a decent human who actually cares for children. It makes me nervous that grammie has them when she’d defending her asswipe of a son…………….

  • buggysmommy

    Johndoe26 and jusjae421,

    First of all, my sympahties for your loss. I think it goes without saying, and I suppose I could speak for everyone here, losing a child or having to face the fact that a child has died, is truly a devastating thing to have to experience.

    Now, though I understand your anxiety and frustration because this is your family, you must understand how poorly you representing right now. And that does not include how terribly bad you are making Sarah look. She was a beautiful, beautiful little girl, I bet she had spirit and was an average 8 yr old in love with Hannah Montana, and all things girly. That is how I would like to think of Sarah. That is how you should be representing Sarah,

    She has left this earth, and it was not a great way to go. For us, the ones who did not have the honor of knowing Sarah, we read these things and we speak on it. Not to call your family animals, or to fight back and forth with you-we do it because we ache inside just like you do. She was a child. She didn’t get to live. She won’t wear makeup, have boyfriends, be popular, go to prom, get married or have the opportunity to be a mommy herself. She was not feeling well and she was sent home. Surely she assumed that the people she loved (and presumably loved her back) would take care of her and make it better. Instead, Sarah died alone in her room, supposedly lying on blankets permiated with her own vomit. Do you think you might want to die that way? I know I wouldn’t. No one should I guess. And more importantly, doesn’t the very idea of such a thing just make you angry inside?

    The bottom line is, Sarah probably wasn’t thinking about dieing. What 8 yr old does? They may fear it, but they don’t think about it and you know why they don’t? Because they have parents who are supposed to make sure they don’t die. Clearly this did not happen. You seem to be somewhat intelligent people despite a few spelling errors. Put yourself in our shoes- think about how it would feel to be us. Good, honest people who care. We care about Sarah and yes, we are angry about what we read. Reaction is honest and it is also necessary.

    You should remember something-though what we read may have portions of fabrication, that fact remains that Sarah has died-and it appears that she did not have to. She had parents who should have seen about her and they didn’t. Instead, that precious little girl died alone in a room and to add to the sadness, she was there for two or more hours before anyone thought to see about her. Does that seem like something you might do for your own child?

    God rest your soul Sarah.

    Johndoe26 & Jusjae421-God help you to heal and have more piece of mind to fully understand all that will come out in the coming months.

  • Castille

    Remember innocent UNTIL proven guilty? Anyone remember that? They will be innocent, because there was no cause for this.

    They are presumed innocent, in the eyes of the law, else we would simply punish them now and be done with it. That doesn’t mean people are supposed to think they didn’t do what they are charged with doing unless so decreed by a court.

    I’m sure this girl’s death was an accident – no one meant for her to die. It doesn’t make her parents less obviously negligent in her death. It’s one thing to mistake appendicitis for a stomach thing, and say rush her in to the ER with a burst appendix, and maybe she still dies there at the hospital or en route, even. Any parent in that situation would have my sincere and sympathetic condoloences. It’s another thing that your sick daugher dies and lies dead in her room unnoticed long enough to rigor. That’s neglect. And they can love her as much as I love my kids, but that doesn’t change anything.

  • missdb

    I am the mother of a 7 year old with type 1 diabetes. He is on an insulin pump. Eventhough that device gives him a basal rate amount of insulin, I still get up 2 times a night just to check his sugar and make sure he isn’t experiencing a high or low blood sugar. He often is. Highs cause permanent vital organ damage. Untreated lows, he dies. I do that when he is healthy. The fact that this “stay at home mother” allowed her daughter to suffer alone, tucked away in her room to slowly, painfully die makes me wish I could just for a few moments impress upon that ‘mother’ the important fact that she is that luminous soul’s sargent in arms. Her knight. Her guardian angel. Not her executioner. I just wish I could hold that poor girl once. Rock her. And sing “Ain’t No Sunshine” to her once. That’s what mommies do for their babies.

  • Lavonna

    I am the mother of a 7 year old with type 1 diabetes. He is on an insulin pump. Eventhough that device gives him a basal rate amount of insulin, I still get up 2 times a night just to check his sugar and make sure he isn’t experiencing a high or low blood sugar. He often is. Highs cause permanent vital organ damage. Untreated lows, he dies. I do that when he is healthy. The fact that this “stay at home mother” allowed her daughter to suffer alone, tucked away in her room to slowly, painfully die makes me wish I could just for a few moments impress upon that ‘mother’ the important fact that she is that luminous soul’s sargent in arms. Her knight. Her guardian angel. Not her executioner. I just wish I could hold that poor girl once. Rock her. And sing “Ain’t No Sunshine” to her once. That’s what mommies do for their babies.

    You are a good mother..*hugs*
    I too wish that I could have rocked her but I can’t sing very well but I sure would have hugged her alot.

  • Zibarro

    I’m sure this girl’s death was an accident – no one meant for her to die. It doesn’t make her parents less obviously negligent in her death. It’s one thing to mistake appendicitis for a stomach thing, and say rush her in to the ER with a burst appendix, and maybe she still dies there at the hospital or en route, even. Any parent in that situation would have my sincere and sympathetic condoloences. It’s another thing that your sick daugher dies and lies dead in her room unnoticed long enough to rigor. That’s neglect. And they can love her as much as I love my kids, but that doesn’t change anything.

    Bingo. That is the best explanation so far (imo)

    RIP little Sarah.

  • silvahalo

    … makes me wish I could just for a few moments impress upon that ‘mother’ the important fact that she is that luminous soul’s Sargent in arms. Her knight. Her guardian angel. Not her executioner. I just wish I could hold that poor girl once. Rock her. And sing “Ain’t No Sunshine” to her once. That’s what mommies do for their babies.

    missdb, that was beautiful. All children should have a mother like you…. I only wish Haleigh would have had a fraction of that concern from her so called parents, she’d be alive today.

    So sorry sweet Haleigh…you deserved better.

  • Jillshere2

    As soon as I stop Crying I’m going to go hug my daughter.

  • Zibarro

    missdb, that was beautiful. All children should have a mother like you…. I only wish Haleigh would have had a fraction of that concern from her so called parents, she’d be alive today.

    So sorry sweet Haleigh…you deserved better.

    Oops, Silva? 2 very sad stories in one day can do that to a person – especially someone with as big a heart as yours.
    I believe you meant Sarah this time?

  • eli1741

    I don’t know this family and I am not defending any one, but I did want to say that appendicitis does go undetected at time. My daughter had been sick off and on for a couple months, now she is 16 not 10, so she would sometimes be home when I was at work. I would call and text her to make sure she was o.k. I am an RN (for 17 years and a good at what I do), I did think appendicitis, but was told that she didn’t present the normal symptoms. After 3 months of on and off symptoms, she called me from school stating she couldn’t walk because of the pain, I immediately had here brought to the hospital I work at, and sat in the ER for several hours, while my daughter sat there not looking to be in any pain or distress. I argued with the doctors, they insisted that it was a “female” issue, I finally asked them to “humor” me and check her appendix, which they did, and SURPRISE she was rushed to surgery, I was told after her surgery, that she wouldn’t have made it through the night without it. Now mind you she had been having chronic appendicitis which isn’t common, but she did not have the normal pain associated with appendicitis, nor did she have a high fever, it was just a “feeling” I had. This went on for 3 months I am a single mom of 3 and work a lot, I felt terrible guilt that she had been going through this for 3 months and I a RN didn’t recognize it sooner. I to thought female issues at first. I am a good mom, I live and breath for my kids, but this could have turned out much worse. Also, once the appendix burst, the pain goes away. My daughter never had severe pain, and her’s was “leaking” which is why it would come and go, she had mild vomiting but denied loose stools. Again I’m not defending a dirty home or a child being dead that long with no one noticing, I’m just saying things are not always what they seem. It is horrible that this precious baby is gone, I will pray for her siblings, they have to be confused and hurt, I hope they can live happy and healthy lives.

  • http://www.myspace.com/llkoolk The Masked Web Avenger

    Oh man, I got back just in time!

    Justjae421 and co.,
    Alot of the posters have been very patient with your douchbaggery so far. I am not inclined to be as kind. You should have defended that poor little girl from her cock goblin parents with half of the energy you are expending here. If you know FAR more than me, FUCK YOU, if I knew half what we know now I would have called 911. If you are so involved in the family home, knowing everything as you obviously do (even though you’re 500 fucking miles away), this is on your god damn, cocksucking, piece of fucking shit ass also. You and your ilk refuse to address facts and evidence and we are suppose to take your word for it over those shadey police and hospital people. Fuck that, fuck you, and fuck those two fucks that let a little girl die.

    Thank you for your time
    The MWA

  • Lavonna

    Thank you for your timeThe MWA

    That is funny.. Give them hell and then thank them for their time.. LMBO
    Thank you for the laugh :-D

  • Rockin Ma

    There’s so much I could write on this right now, but since I’ve had my fill of dying children for the day and my heart is shattered into pieces I will just say two things:

    Vomitting and the runs should never be ignored in a child that young. A glass of water does not help dehydration for that in kids.

    I could be wrong, but I don’t know of any 8 year old that sick that prefers to stick it out alone in their room and not snuggled up with their parent to rub their head and tell them they will be o.k.

  • http://www.myspace.com/llkoolk The Masked Web Avenger

    Your welcome Lavonna, I’m here to help.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    This story makes my stomach hurt. My self and my daughter both had what I thought was a stomach virus at the same time. As sick as I was, I balanced that poor baby on the toilet as we both threw up in the bucket, it was horrifying she got better in about 24 hours. When I didn’t improve two days later I went to the er and it turned out that I had appendicitis, and my appendix burst.. My point here is that 1) I was her mom first and took care of her before myself and didn’t think twice about it, AND I, as an adult (who has have a leg broken in three places and have given birth TWICE) have never felt such pain, that poor little girl felt unimaginable pain all alone. Her brother has got to feel horrible.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Justjae421 and co.,Alot of the posters have been very patient with your douchbaggery so far. I am not inclined to be as kind. You should have defended that poor little girl from her cock goblin parents with half of the energy you are expending here. If you know FAR more than me, FUCK YOU, if I knew half what we know now I would have called 911. If you are so involved in the family home, knowing everything as you obviously do (even though you’re 500 fucking miles away), this is on your god damn, cocksucking, piece of fucking shit ass also. You and your ilk refuse to address facts and evidence and we are suppose to take your word for it over those shadey police and hospital people. Fuck that, fuck you, and fuck those two fucks that let a little girl die.

    WMA – I am soooooooo happy that you are back!! *sigh*

    I am shocked. If my son is ever sick, I pace the floor and stress and hug and kiss and wait on him. I can’t imagin letting him die. Grrrrrr!

  • http://www.myspace.com/llkoolk The Masked Web Avenger

    Awwwww, thanks April, I’m glad to be back! I don’t even have kids but I couldn’t imagine leaving any child that sick alone and unattended. I have no sympathy for the people that defend this kind of behavior!

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Awwwww, thanks April, I’m glad to be back! I don’t even have kids but I couldn’t imagine leaving any child that sick alone and unattended. I have no sympathy for the people that defend this kind of behavior!

    This is why we love you…. Why I do anyway.

  • orator

    I was really sad to hear that Sarah passed away last week. Horrified. It was hard to believe at first, as any death is. Our whole family is grieving. The last time I saw Sarah she was a baby, just beginning to explore the world around her. I am really sad that Sarah is no longer on this earth. As David’s cousin I feel for him, for Jo-Ann and for Sarah’s two brothers. You all have no idea what these children have been through in their short lifetimes. David served in the National Guard for several years before 9/11, and afterwards stood guard at an airport in D.C. Later, he joined the army to get more medical training, knowing there was a good chance he would be sent to Iraq. The army moved him and his family across the country to California, where they knew no one. Soon, he was called to serve. This left Jo-Ann alone in California with three kids to care for. While David was in Iraq, Jo-Ann threatened to take the kids into the desert and leave them there to die (this I heard through the grapevine so I’m not sure exactly what she said, but the gist is that she threatened them harm if David did not come home). David did ask for leave, and was granted some time to come home and deal with the issue. I’m not sure exactly what happened then. I think Jo-Ann moved back to Virginia with the kids and David’s mom helped take care of them as Jo-Ann was not allowed to be alone with them at that time. David’s mom survived cancer in 2008 and we’re lucky to still have her on this earth.

    Please stop making fun of my cousin’s teeth and assuming this is a case of some white trash people abusing their children. It’s not. The images and descriptions that have been shown to you are skewing your imaginations of what happened here. I am not denying the facts the police reported, but I believe they may have been misconstrued. If “whoever makes a mess, cleans it” is the rule; I don’t condone that. But families have different rules, like spanking, that not everyone agrees with.

    David is a good man and would never have left for work had he thought his daughter would die that day. Who would? That’s an insane thing to think about a person. If he thought she required medical care and that she wouldn’t recover on her own, he would have taken her to the hospital. He may have made a bad judgment call and I’m sure he cannot believe he could have been so stupid as to let his only daughter die when medical treatment could have saved her, but he is not the monster the articles and comments are making him out to be.

  • Zibarro

    Orator -

    Enough with the excuses. There is NO excuse for a child dying, alone on her bedroom floor (or bed) and NO ONE noticing!

    I don’t give a flying fuck who did what and where and with whom 7 or 8 years ago! WTF does that have to do with Sarah dying?? NOTHING. Don’t try to play on our heartstrings with the “Iraq War Veteran” bullshit. N-O-T-H-I-N-G excuses him – got it?

    Since you haven’t seen them since Sarah was a baby – just like the other defenders – your opinion (which is all it is) means squat. I’d prefer to hear from someone who saw these people day in and day out for the last 6 mos. or so. People change all the time, from year to year, circumstance to circumstance. David is likely NOT the same person he was when you last saw him. I’m not the same person I was 8 years ago. Maybe in my “core” I am – but many, many things about me are different.

    I had that rule about the puke in my home, too. Only – it was reserved for ADULTS who drank too much! NEVER, EVER for someone who was legitimately sick! That’s just cruel! I remember clearly waking up one night because from my room I heard something that didn’t sound right coming from my daughter’s room. I went in there and (no exaggeration) there was puke EVERYWHERE! Walls, ceiling, floor, toys, bed – and her. My husband took one look and went back to bed. First things first, I cleaned up my child. Then, at 2 in the morning, I went about scrubbing walls, floors, changing sheets, washing toys, etc. Next morning – she was fine. Had she continued to throw up – hello E.R. That is what good, responsible parents do. They don’t let their kids sit in their own puke and shit. They don’t let their kids suffer by themselves. They don’t “hope” things will get better. They MAKE them better.
    One more story – When my daughter was 5 she started waking up in the middle of the night with high fevers. She would throw up a few times.. then seem to be getting better. My alarms still went off. I took her to her doctor who said “Upper Respiratory Infection.” I was like, “huh?” That night, she woke up with the high fever AGAIN. Next morning I took her to the ER. They ran tests and sent us home, saying it was just a “virus”. Next morning I was on the phone with pharmacists and “Ask a nurse” pleading for information. I told them it had been 3 days and no virus I know of lasted that long without symptoms improving. Call waiting clicked in – it was the ER. One of her tests came back positive. She had “Gram Negative Sepsis.” Salmonella got into her blood stream and they said get her back to the hospital ASAP. That night the doctors told me it was touch and go – and I broke down. Apparently, there were ELEVEN children sick with the same thing. They had an ambulance on stand-by in case her BP bottomed out (to take her to All Children’s – more sophisticated eqip) Thankfully, one of the 2 antibiotics she was on began fighting it and after 5 days, she was released. Moral of the story? If you pay attention to your child – you don’t assume anything. And you don’t always take the doctor at their word either. Had Sarah’s parents been paying attention, they would have noticed the change in her condition. But they weren’t – so they didn’t – and now she is dead.

    Fuck your excuses.

  • Lavonna

    Please stop making fun of my cousin’s teeth and assuming this is a case of some white trash people abusing their children. It’s not. The images and descriptions that have been shown to you are skewing your imaginations of what happened here. I am not denying the facts the police reported, but I believe they may have been misconstrued. If “whoever makes a mess, cleans it” is the rule; I don’t condone that. But families have different rules, like spanking, that not everyone agrees with.

    Neglect is abuse and they neglected to take that baby to the dr. I can understand thinking that the fever will pass but it will not pass if all the baby gets is water!
    Sarah’s death was preventable and senseless and that angers people. It angers me and I didn’t even know her.
    It wasn’t a matter of him taking off work that day; Sarah was sick for 2 days so was he working a 24 hour shift and didn’t know?
    Samantha should have taken better care of Sarah instead of sending a 10 year old boy in there to take care of her.
    Does she not understand that when a child is sick it is a woman’s touch they need? Medicine, attention and lots of love is what is needed and I don’t think that is alot to ask for.

  • charmich

    David was at work making money to support the family, while leaving Sarah in Samantha’s care. She was asleep when Sarah died. He trusted his fiance, and that was the worst mistake he could have made.

  • orator

    I don’t give a flying fuck who did what and where and with whom 7 or 8 years ago! WTF does that have to do with Sarah dying?? NOTHING. Don’t try to play on our heartstrings with the “Iraq War Veteran” bullshit. N-O-T-H-I-N-G excuses him – got it?

    I am talking about the things I DO know, which is all I can do. I didn’t make any assumptions that I can’t back up, like other people on this board. I don’t know Samantha so I can’t say anything about her.

  • jj999

    Charmich and Orator, both of you, puh-leeze. The old “he was asleep” or “she was at work” excuse is a lame as “the couch killed the baby” or “the bathtub did it”. ASLEEP while his child is dying probably in agony??? AT WORK while his child is crying and deathly ill and in pain? ASLEEP while his child lies dead long enough to go into rigor. Oh yeah, he’s blameless all right, a wonderful parent all right. I call BS on both of you. Orator, you only know what he told you. You and Charmich and jj124 and whoever that other person was are all going by hearsay collected from the accused. Not one single little factoid have any of you offered to mitigate the fact that this little girl died alone and neglected and ignored. HE is crap AND SHE is crap, and you are full of the same.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I am talking about the things I DO know, which is all I can do. I didn’t make any assumptions that I can’t back up, like other people on this board. I don’t know Samantha so I can’t say anything about her.

    But, what you are stating about Jo-Anne has very little to do with what is being discussed right now. Regardless of what happened 7-8 years ago, Sarah is dead today. And she was in the care of Samantha and David when she died.

  • charmich

    Again, he was at work, Samantha was at home, and words can’t even begin to describe the regret that he feels for leaving her in another’s care. Sarah died, because she was neglected. She was in the care of Samantha, and rather than caring for her, Samantha was asleep and David comes home to find his daughter dead. He would not have left for work that morning had the severe pain already begun. Appendicitis can escalate very rapidly, but none of us were there, so we can’t know the state of her condition when he left. It is so easy and common for people to rush and judge, but it gets you know where, clearly makes you angry and flustered, and hurts the family. They have yet to bury her, because they are too busy dealing with the media. She died a horrendous death, and her poor body is laying in a morgue somewhere. If you want to help the situation, back off and let the police do their job.

  • orator

    Charmich and Orator, both of you, puh-leeze. The old “he was asleep” or “she was at work” excuse is a lame as “the couch killed the baby” or “the bathtub did it”. ASLEEP while his child is dying probably in agony??? AT WORK while his child is crying and deathly ill and in pain? ASLEEP while his child lies dead long enough to go into rigor. Oh yeah, he’s blameless all right, a wonderful parent all right. I call BS on both of you. Orator, you only know what he told you. You and Charmich and jj124 and whoever that other person was are all going by hearsay collected from the accused. Not one single little factoid have any of you offered to mitigate the fact that this little girl died alone and neglected and ignored. HE is crap AND SHE is crap, and you are full of the same.

    I never said I talked to him and honestly I haven’t! Everything I have heard that hasn’t been on the news has been through the grapevine and therefore I haven’t said anything about that because I can’t be sure it is accurate. I used some logic to deduce that if he or Samantha had known Sarah was dying they would have done something about it. I didn’t say he’s blameless. His child is dead and it was under his care that it occurred. Obviously he should have been wiser, but unfortunately he didn’t recognize the symptoms and what happened can’t be undone. Again, I don’t know Samantha or about anything that went on that morning, so I can’t say anything about her.

  • orator

    But, what you are stating about Jo-Anne has very little to do with what is being discussed right now. Regardless of what happened 7-8 years ago, Sarah is dead today. And she was in the care of Samantha and David when she died.

    I only mentioned that because people have been discussing her in the comments. They brought her up, if they hadn’t I wouldn’t have said anything. I am only trying to clear up assumptions that others have made about the family here in the comments.

  • penelopejo

    I only mentioned that because people have been discussing her in the comments. They brought her up, if they hadn’t I wouldn’t have said anything. I am only trying to clear up assumptions that others have made about the family here in the comments.

    The only people who mentioned Sarah’s real mom was the family members who are trying to make it seem like if she was the one who really let Sarah down by not having custody of her. This article is about 2 people who did give their child the medical attention she needed. Was he working a full 48 hours that he didn’t realize that his daughter wasn’t eating, had diarrhea and was vomiting? Are you telling me that he didn’t take his daughter, who wasn’t eating and was sick for the past 2 days before she died, to the doctor because he was working and thought she had a bug? It still makes no sense whatsoever. So, yeah, the charges are right cause she died due to the negligence on part of BOTH parents in charge of her.

  • orator

    The only people who mentioned Sarah’s real mom was the family members who are trying to make it seem like if she was the one who really let Sarah down by not having custody of her. This article is about 2 people who did give their child the medical attention she needed. Was he working a full 48 hours that he didn’t realize that his daughter wasn’t eating, had diarrhea and was vomiting? Are you telling me that he didn’t take his daughter, who wasn’t eating and was sick for the past 2 days before she died, to the doctor because he was working and thought she had a bug? It still makes no sense whatsoever. So, yeah, the charges are right cause she died due to the negligence on part of BOTH parents in charge of her.

    I’m not going to read back through the comments… but I think you’re mistaken about family members saying Sarah should have been with her mother. If you want to go back and find the quote, feel free. Yes I am saying that Sarah died because David didn’t realize she had appendicitis and therefore did not seek medical attention for her. It wasn’t a malicious or intentional act. How does that not make sense? I’ve said I don’t know the details. I can’t go back in time and read his mind and check his daily schedule to let you know exactly what he was doing and what he thought. If you can, the police may be appreciative of your assistance.

  • orator

    Sarah’s biological mother, Jo-Anne Brasse, claims that she has been fighting for custody of Sarah and her two brothers since 2007. She also claims ‘there were ongoing signs of mental abuse and neglect inside the home for months.’ She repeatedly tried to have the children removed from their father’s home, but was denied in court due to lack of evidence. Well, I hope they have enough evidence now.

    I forgot this bit about Jo-Anne was in the article itself.

  • RunecirE

    Charmic and Orator

    HE LEFT THE POOR GIRL TO ROT IN HER OWN BEDROOM WHILE BEING CARED FOR BY A TEN-YEAR OLD.

    Are you honestly trying to say he never once checked in on her, or he did check in on her and saw nothing wrong? A FUCKING EMT and he could not even help his own daughter. Or did he just take it for granted that the girl was OK just because the BITCH he was living with said the girl was OK?

    He has violated the greatest unspoken law of the universe by allowing this child to die. He betrayed the trust between Parent and Child. The waste of human flesh will join all the rest in the Seventh Circle.

  • penelopejo

    I’m not going to read back through the comments… but I think you’re mistaken about family members saying Sarah should have been with her mother. If you want to go back and find the quote, feel free. Yes I am saying that Sarah died because David didn’t realize she had appendicitis and therefore did not seek medical attention for her. It wasn’t a malicious or intentional act. How does that not make sense? I’ve said I don’t know the details. I can’t go back in time and read his mind and check his daily schedule to let you know exactly what he was doing and what he thought. If you can, the police may be appreciative of your assistance.

    Which is why they were charged with criminally negligent homicide. They neglected to take her to the hospital or even the doctor and because they neglected to due so, she died from appendicitis. Those are the charges and they sound pretty correct to me. She died because of neglect. Even if it was only this one time they neglected her, they sure did pick a bad time to do it. And it was their family members who came on here and said,”Why aren’t you saying anything about JoAnn? She didn’t have custody of them cause she abused them too. Say stuff about her not them.” So JoAnn has nothing to do with why she died. Sarah was not in her custody, and if she was in her custody, then we would be ragging on her ass too for not taking her child to the doctors. It is still making no sense. There is no plausible reason on why this child was not taken to the doctor. Even if you say they didn’t have the money or health insurance, NO ER will turn sick people away for not having money or insurance. It is against the law. It makes no sense on why this child died over something that could’ve been taken care of at the first signs.

  • charmich

    It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.
    - William G McAdoo

    I’m done.

  • RunecirE

    Yes I am saying that Sarah died because David didn’t realize she had appendicitis and therefore did not seek medical attention for her. It wasn’t a malicious or intentional act. How does that not make sense?

    Indifference to the suffering of others, especially a child, ESPECIALLY his child, has earned him the scorn of all who love life and cherish it. Appendicitis or not, you do not leave a child to rot in her condition without seeking medical aid.

  • RunecirE

    It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.- William G McAdoo

    I’m done.

    We are not ignorant because we stand up for what we believe in. What you cannot defeat is opinion and belief. And if you came on here hoping to defeat those who do not agree with you, you are the most ignorant of all!

    Sarah died, because she was neglected. She was in the care of Samantha, and rather than caring for her, Samantha was asleep and David comes home to find his daughter dead.

    The neglect did not happen over one days time; only the ignorant would believe this all happened in one day. She died on that day, but the neglect started long before she died.

  • CassieMomma

    RIP Sarah Brasse

    Such a waste of a beautiful life.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.- William G McAdoo

    I don’t see why. Because they turn and run away like your doing.

    I’m done.

    Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

  • RunecirE

    Bravo, McQuest!

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    Why do friends/family members always think that their loved one is just going to ‘fess up and say to them “Of course I neglected my child to death”??? Do they honestly think that is going to happen?

    Get a clue folks. Look with your brain and not your heart. I doubt they intended this to happen but it did. Their own actions (or inaction) lead to it.

    Most folks don’t have a dead kid laying around for hours before they notice – especially one they know has been very sick. While how sick she was may be debatable, when and how she died isn’t. Of course they neglected the child to death.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aurniastar my_2_Cents

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appendicitis

    I work in an urgent care center and the minute my kids get sick anything beyond a cold or flu well hell,Im too inclined to take them to the Dr./urgent care or even a hospital,well Im sure it must be uncommon for folks to do that but I’ve I found it to be a wonderful concept of caring for my kids to make sure they LIVE~

    There is one in every bunch ain’t there? in this case there are two~
    Now..You CANNOT be serious these two people are defending these two asshats and after reading all the replies this person or persons STILL has not told the “truth” of the matter even though they have been repeatedly asked by the DD members. umm.. whatever. and when one has appendicitis usually it is accompanied by a very high fever. Did these fuckwads not bother to take her temperature or what?

  • Castille

    I accept that David went to work without realizing anything was amiss. Appendicitis can happen that fast. I’m just not clear on why he didn’t notice prior to this that his fiance, Samantha, didn’t have any special interest in actually caring for his children. It was really her, as the reponsible adult in the house, who should have been keeping track of this child’s condition and noticing a worsening rather than an improvement and reacting accordingly. One has to assume, albeit without evidence, that this was not the first time she’d shown a rather blase attitude about doing the actual caretaking of these kids when it proved difficult. Well, I think the unwillingness to clean vomit out of the carpet when children can only but fail to do a thorough job of it, even feeling well, and it becomes a sanitary concern to the whole family should’ve been a heckuva tip off. I’ve seen other men hook up with a woman and assume she will bear the same burden of care for his kids that their mother did, so he reverts to playing to role of secondary caregiver that he had before, even when it’s clear the woman they’ve awarded the mommy role to really has little interest in doing more than occasionally playing at it. Maybe that’s what David did. And now he’s paying for that shortsightedness.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Bravo, McQuest!

    aww, thanks.

    Why do friends/family members always think that their loved one is just going to ‘fess up and say to them “Of course I neglected my child to death”??? Do they honestly think that is going to happen?

    Get a clue folks. Look with your brain and not your heart. I doubt they intended this to happen but it did. Their own actions (or inaction) lead to it.

    I know, I really do feel for them (defenders) because they’ve lost a friend or relative also. If most of them were not so rude and stubborn I think they could recieve a lot of guidence and advice in getting through a troubled time by some folks on this site. I’ve seen it happen with others that initially came here to defend.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Fuck your excuses.

    Well said!!

    Bravo, McQuest!

    *claps like a crazy person and throw panties*

    She did not die over night. She was sick for days and now the tards show up and say David didn’t know because he was at work?? I fucking work all the time and I know what is going on with my kid ALWAYS!!! David is a lazy fucker that didn’t care for her and Samantha is a lazy whore that did’t care for her. The both deserve to be kicked in the gut repeatedly and left to die from internal injuries. Fuck them and hang the bullshit. No one here is buying it so go tell it to the judge.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I know, I really do feel for them (defenders) because they’ve lost a friend or relative also. If most of them were not so rude and stubborn I think they could recieve a lot of guidence and advice in getting through a troubled time by some folks on this site. I’ve seen it happen with others that initially came here to defend.

    I agree – but the excuses are just so lame. When will they just show up and say “yeah, they fucked up and now we are suffering”. They always make excuses. A little girl is dead and SOMEONE is to blame. The two adults that didn’t rush her to urgetnt care are to blame. The two adults that turn their heads and left another child to care for a very sick child are to blame. No excuses.

  • orator

    I don’t think I made any excuses for them. I agree that they made a horrible mistake, that may or not be criminally negligent homicide. I’ve never dealt with this before so I don’t know the definition or what the distinctions are between that and something they could be acquitted of. I really don’t know. If you do, go ahead and tell me, really, I’m not being sarcastic, I would really like to know.

    I know one of the purposes of this site is to unleash your own curses onto people you don’t know who did stupid and horrible things (from the site’s About page), but I really think in this case it’s uncalled for. Saying they are a whore and a lazy fucker, and that they should rot and die and go to hell and all that stuff… I just find a bit extreme and hard to take. It definitely works to get the family to speak up though, huh? A little entertainment for your afternoon! I respect people like Castille who actually have something intelligent and reasonable to say. As family, I think you can imagine what it is like to read the other sort of comments. That’s really what made me come back and try to say something.

    I’ve read through over recent stories on this site and I don’t think this one compares to those about cutting off someones head or locking them in a room and beating them for years. Because it wasn’t intentional. That’s the difference. I can’t argue that it didn’t happen, but it is different than intentional harm to a child. It still may have the same consequence, of a child no longer being alive, but still isn’t it a bit different? Yet it gets the same reaction.

  • chellababy

    I’ve read through over recent stories on this site and I don’t think this one compares to those about cutting off someones head or locking them in a room and beating them for years. Because it wasn’t intentional. That’s the difference. I can’t argue that it didn’t happen, but it is different than intentional harm to a child. It still may have the same consequence, of a child no longer being alive, but still isn’t it a bit different? Yet it gets the same reaction.

    its because it was preventable if they had paid close attention like parents are supposed to do. would you let your daughter sit in her room alone, throwing up and having diarhrria for 2 days while a 10 year old “helped” to take care of her???? or would you keep an eye on her and take care of her yourself??

  • penelopejo

    I don’t think I made any excuses for them. I agree that they made a horrible mistake, that may or not be criminally negligent homicide. I’ve never dealt with this before so I don’t know the definition or what the distinctions are between that and something they could be acquitted of. I really don’t know. If you do, go ahead and tell me, really, I’m not being sarcastic, I would really like to know.

    Criminally negligent homicide is a state jail felony, and is defined as causing the death of an individual by criminal negligence.

    the above was taken from here: http://www.weblocator.com/attorney/tx/law/c13.html

    Here is the legal definition of Negligence

    http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/n010.htm

    And a wikipedia article about it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligence

    I believe this charge does fall into place on what happened to this child. Again, they may be good people and all but they fucked up big time. Even if this was the only time they did neglect in getting care for her, it ultimately resulted in her death. It’s disappointing that this child could be alive right now, but she isn’t. And that is just heartbreaking as she was a lovely girl.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    Just to clarify what we are talking about…

    In Texas, it looks like “criminally negligent homicide” is considered a lesser crime than “manslaughter”. Manslaughter is a second degree felony (2-20 years). Criminally negligent homicide is a state jail felony (6 months – 2 years).

    http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000019.00.htm
    http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.003.00.000012.00.htm

  • penelopejo

    Damn it. My comment is in moderation. I gave some helpful links on what negligence is and what criminally negligent homicide is in the state of Texas. Hopefully, it will come out of there soon so you can read up on them.

  • RunecirE

    Orator,
    The death of a child under any circumstance is never a good thing, and though the people on this site may seem callous towards the perpetrators, there is a great deal of compassion for the victims. There are a few of us who have lost loved ones, or people we know, to unnatural circumstances, and this sight helps us by ligitimizing our emotions and expressing our hate, anger, frustration for the system and perps as well as our love, pain, anguish for our loved lost. This sight helps us to vent.

    We get visciously aggressive when people try to defend the perps because it goes against the unspoken creed of VICTIMS FIRST. Except for the few callous ones that rear their ugly head now and then, I have NEVER read a comment condemning the victim(s).

    Though you may not like what we say, we are not putting it on the front page of every newspaper or across everyone’s TV screen. You had to seek us out!

    I am sorry for whatever pain you may be feeling right now, but I have no sympathy for parents who allow their child to die when it was VERY preventable had they had more compassion for their child. PERIOD.

  • RunecirE

    Because it wasn’t intentional.

    They intentionally did nothing, otherwise they would have done something. YES?

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Bravo, McQuest!

    *claps like a crazy person and throw panties*

    catches panties, twirls them overhead like a lasso.

  • Lavonna

    catches panties, twirls them overhead like a lasso.

    LOL :-D

  • orator

    They intentionally did nothing, otherwise they would have done something. YES?

    I guess so. That’s the definition of negligence: doing nothing when something should have been done.

    I guess the only point to argue about is whether or not a reasonable person would have taken her to the hospital based on the circumstances described in the article. The consensus here is yes.

    There’s just one point I want to say something about… one thing the article said was that Sarah was under her (not much) older brother’s care. To me.. I think this has been really misconstrued, at first by the article, and even further by people commenting. I have no inside information, so this is only my own interpretation of it, as a biased relative. Can’t you imagine a mother, who was also ill, did not believe Sarah was going to die, thought she only had the flu, saying “hey son, i’m going to do be busy for a while, if your sister needs something, could you help her out?” i don’t think that’s beyond the capability of a ten year old to help his caretaker out by bringing his sister water if she needs it. I babysat three kids, aged 2, 4, and 6 when I was 13 years old. I babysat Sarah’s older brother when he was a baby, with parents upstairs, when I was younger than that. Obviously Sam didn’t check in on Sarah enough, or she would still be here. Maybe she finally seemed to be getting some rest after being sick, so Sam didn’t wake her.

    Maybe I am just hoping that things aren’t exactly as bad as they seem in the article. I think you should all hope so too. Wouldn’t it make you feel better if it turned out that things weren’t what they seemed? Examining my own behavior in posting on this forum, I can see that is what I want. I’m not in denial of what happened, but I am exploring the possibilities, as anyone will after a traumatic event, of what went wrong and how it could have been prevented. I don’t think assuming the worst of everyone is the best way to figure that out, but I understand that people on this forum may have past experiences which lead them to do so.

  • jj999

    Maybe I am just hoping that things aren’t exactly as bad as they seem in the article. I think you should all hope so too. …

    The only way that things could be “not as bad as they seem in the article” would be if the little girl was not dead. Dead so long before help was called for her that she had gone into rigor mortis.
    Or if both parents died before she did and were unable to help her because of being dead themselves.
    Otherwise, they ARE exactly as bad as they seem.

  • Athena

    I can’t argue that it didn’t happen, but it is different than intentional harm to a child. It still may have the same consequence, of a child no longer being alive, but still isn’t it a bit different? Yet it gets the same reaction.

    It is a bit different. Obviously, the intent to hurt or kill a child is worse than careless neglect. However, the way this child died may have been just as painful as any number of murders we’ve featured on this site, and the callousness that facilitated her death is not unlike the mothers who do nothing while their child is being beaten. That, in my opinion, is what people are reacting to; Intent is not the only factor worthy of vitriolic reaction. Perhaps intent is the worst, but when you’re dealing in children who have died painful and tragic deaths, it almost seems like splitting hairs.

    I always sympathize with the family members of the accused; I can only imagine how nightmarish it is to discover that an individual you’ve put your trust in and dedicated compassion to is not the person you thought they were. But, if the nature of the response here disturbs you deeply, I would offer the same advice to you that I have offered family members in the past – avert your eyes. Our intent is not to punish those who care for the offenders, but to make the statement that disregard for children is no more acceptable and no less dangerous than intentional abuse.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    Our intent is not to punish those who care for the offenders, but to make the statement that disregard for children is no more acceptable and no less dangerous than intentional abuse.

    Well said, Athena. (All of it, but I like that portion best)

    p.s. Good to see your face is back. LOL

  • orator

    But, if the nature of the response here disturbs you deeply, I would offer the same advice to you that I have offered family members in the past – avert your eyes. Our intent is not to punish those who care for the offenders, but to make the statement that disregard for children is no more acceptable and no less dangerous than intentional abuse.

    Thank you. Your comments are really helpful.

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    Orator,
    I think what hurts us all so deeply at DD or maybe I am just speaking for myself, (I don’t think so because all of these folks at DD are passionate about safe-keeping of children) is that we try so desperately to keep our children and for that matter children in general out of harm’s way. Sarah was not afforded that and it makes us angry. It hurts us.
    It should be the RIGHT not a PRIVILEGE for babies to grow up in a warm, safe, loving and healthy environment. They should absolutely KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt, that their parent/s love them and will ultimately sacrifice the very air they breathe to keep them safe. To protect them from harm large or small.
    This was not the case for Sarah. The situation could have been so different with just a little effort.
    Everytime a little one dies I believe it erodes at compassionate people’s souls. A little at the time, but it erodes. Such is the case here.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    I’ve read through over recent stories on this site and I don’t think this one compares to those about cutting off someones head or locking them in a room and beating them for years. Because it wasn’t intentional. That’s the difference. I can’t argue that it didn’t happen, but it is different than intentional harm to a child. It still may have the same consequence, of a child no longer being alive, but still isn’t it a bit different? Yet it gets the same reaction.

    You are right. Neither one of them set out to hurt her, it seems as if they just did not want to be bothered with her. That really makes myself and I’m sure others really feel a lot more for this girl as I picture her lying there in great pain and no one there to even hold her hand. To give David the benifit of the doubt, I’m betting that Samantha is a lot more responsible for the neglect than David, but from what has been reported it does not sound like there is any way he did not know about it. I think especially because he is an EMT he is being held to a higher standard than someone else may be in the same scenario. And I agree he should be. I’m willing to believe that they really did not know the severity of the sickness, but a sick child of any kind needs close monitering. David of all people should know this and also know the health issues that a filthy house can cause.
    He just assumed everything would be alright and stood by and did nothing. And that’s not right.

  • Castille

    Maybe I am just hoping that things aren’t exactly as bad as they seem in the article. I think you should all hope so too. Wouldn’t it make you feel better if it turned out that things weren’t what they seemed? Examining my own behavior in posting on this forum, I can see that is what I want. I’m not in denial of what happened, but I am exploring the possibilities, as anyone will after a traumatic event, of what went wrong and how it could have been prevented. I don’t think assuming the worst of everyone is the best way to figure that out, but I understand that people on this forum may have past experiences which lead them to do so.

    I think all of us would like to embrace the scenario where Sarah just drifted off without the pain that generally characterizes appedicitis, and it went unnoticed as others simply thought she was sleeping in recovery from the stomach virus and on the mend, and didn’t want to disturb her any by going over and actually touching her. It’s infinitely more comforting than the idea that she suffered painfully and was ignored. But as moms, the idea of not going over and at least placing a hand on your sleeping child’s head to check in on the fever seems jarring, And the reality that the ordinary course of appendicitis does involve incapacitating pain sets off our internal alarms. The first scenario reaffirms my basic hopeful outlook on humanity, but we see enough real headlines here that the second scenario seems entirely plausible as well. We trust that law enforcement with the duty to investigate these matters found enough evidence to satisfy them that this wasn’t an unforseeable tragedy that happened in spite of responsible parenting in order to have charged them. Perhaps the investigators are wrong, and we can all give ourselves peace in believing this girl died a very peaceful death, not alone in agony. But right now their investigation holds more weight in my opinion than what I’d find more comfort in believing happened. Eventually a jury may get to weigh the evidence and my opinion in how this all occurred may happily be swayed, or confirmed in it’s worst, but in this case I have a fair amount of faith in the judgement of a group of men and women in a position to carefully consider all of it. And that’s not true for me in a lot of cases, lol.

  • RunecirE

    2 BOYS,
    99.99999% right there with you. But one minor detail, and maybe it’s just the way I read it, since my mindset may not be identical to yours, I cannot say it erodes my soul. It fires it up, burns at my very core to see a child harmed, even unintentionally. What does erode is my patience for stupid, ignorant, idiotic excuses and the people that say them ( or write them). (ORATOR, this is NOT directed at you. You strike me as neither stupid nor idiotic).

    I believe it is gut reaction and normal to defend those we care for, even when said defense is blinding us to the realities of the situation. If you really have a desire to learn about us, go back through the archives and read the stories, not just some…ALL, that have been so crucial in forming the attitudes and opinions we have today. See if they don’t change your perception of this incident. Reading 1 or 2 will not do it. It must be taken in the whole or not at all.

    Our shortfall, if you call it that, is we have the same difficulty in understanding your perception. We do not have a website available to us detailing every experience this family has gone through. We cannot play catch-up with their lives like you can with our stories and comments. SO, we must take things as we see them and use the knowledge and mindset we have garnered from OUR past and use them to illuminate our present.

  • RunecirE

    But as moms, the idea of not going over and at least placing a hand on your sleeping child’s head …

    I take exception ;) … I am a single DAD and I do the same thing. Or does this mean my feminine side is glowing again? ;)

    Well spoke, BTW.

    Orator,
    I will let you see a short segment of my life and let you “perspective” me.

    My 13yo was out working in my woodshop (not with powertools, ladies) without my supervision. He came into the house with his friend and said he hurt himself. He lifted his shirt and showed me a 3″ laceration running from his waistband to his bellybutton. I, of course, go into nurse mode to stem the bloodflow and rush him off to the ER for stitches and Antibiotics.
    How did this happen?… I will tell you. He needed the claw hammer from the pegboard at the backside of the workbench. Instead of using the available stepstoll, he stood on two plastic crates. Said crates slipped and as he lost his footing, he put his hands down on the bench to catch himself. Said hammer was in his hand at the time and he wound up sliding down the claw. Was I negligent? I’ll let you decide.

  • Lavonna

    My 13yo was out working in my woodshop (not with powertools, ladies) without my supervision. He came into the house with his friend and said he hurt himself. He lifted his shirt and showed me a 3? laceration running from his waistband to his bellybutton. I, of course, go into nurse mode to stem the bloodflow and rush him off to the ER for stitches and Antibiotics.How did this happen?… I will tell you. He needed the claw hammer from the pegboard at the backside of the workbench. Instead of using the available stepstoll, he stood on two plastic crates. Said crates slipped and as he lost his footing, he put his hands down on the bench to catch himself. Said hammer was in his hand at the time and he wound up sliding down the claw. Was I negligent? I’ll let you decide.

    Uh no. You rushed him to the hospital right? You did not just look at him and say ‘oh well, he will get better”
    Sorry but this is not even close to Sarah.
    We can’t always be there 24/7 watching. You sound like a good dad.

  • RunecirE

    TY! I try. I was not looking so much for a reaction on the Result, but on what lead up to it. Boys, unattended, workshop, tool placement. IDK, whatever came to mind.

  • biteme

    I think all of us would like to embrace the scenario where Sarah just drifted off without the pain that generally characterizes appedicitis, and it went unnoticed as others simply thought she was sleeping in recovery from the stomach virus and on the mend, and didn’t want to disturb her any by going over and actually touching her. It’s infinitely more comforting than the idea that she suffered painfully and was ignored. But as moms, the idea of not going over and at least placing a hand on your sleeping child’s head to check in on the fever seems jarring, And the reality that the ordinary course of appendicitis does involve incapacitating pain sets off our internal alarms. The first scenario reaffirms my basic hopeful outlook on humanity, but we see enough real headlines here that the second scenario seems entirely plausible as well. We trust that law enforcement with the duty to investigate these matters found enough evidence to satisfy them that this wasn’t an unforseeable tragedy that happened in spite of responsible parenting in order to have charged them. Perhaps the investigators are wrong, and we can all give ourselves peace in believing this girl died a very peaceful death, not alone in agony. But right now their investigation holds more weight in my opinion than what I’d find more comfort in believing happened. Eventually a jury may get to weigh the evidence and my opinion in how this all occurred may happily be swayed, or confirmed in it’s worst, but in this case I have a fair amount of faith in the judgement of a group of men and women in a position to carefully consider all of it. And that’s not true for me in a lot of cases, lol.

    Well thought out and on the mark as usual

  • orator

    Was I negligent? I’ll let you decide.

    I don’t know. I’m not a good judge since I’ve never dealt with this before. I’m really looking for your advice since I am not familiar with it.

    Is a parent responsible every time a child gets hurt? There’s obviously some distinctions to be made. Some things no one can prevent. I don’t think most parents would think twice about letting their kids work in the toolshed, so long as they weren’t using the circular saw. But what if your son had been hurt worse and you didn’t know and an hour later you checked on him and found him dead on the floor? (I’m sorry to create that imagery but I am trying to understand). Would that be criminally negligent homicide? Because your son slipped and fell on a sharp object, while in a toolshed where you thought he would be okay, but where there was danger as your own story shows, and died because you didn’t check on him in time?

    I hope my hypothesizing does not offend or upset you. Do you think you were negligent in that case? It really just sounds to me like an unfortunate event that was so unlikely and that never even crossed your mind, therefore you had no reason to stop him from working out there alone.

  • RunecirE

    I hope my hypothesizing does not offend or upset you. Do you think you were negligent in that case? It really just sounds to me like an unfortunate event that was so unlikely and that never even crossed your mind, therefore you had no reason to stop him from working out there alone.

    No offense, I asked for it.

    If I had seen him bleeding and done nothing, then yes I would be negligent. As well, if my son were puking and BM’ing for two days, and I did nothing about it, I would be negligent.
    I consider Sarah’s parents negligent, not because they didn’t know how to diagnose appendicitis, but because they never took her to someone that could have. And if the story is accurate for the officer’s words, there was dried puke and cat feces all over the house. And NO ONE knew for TWO HOURS that the poor girl had passed on. Which, to me, is indicative of how much attention she was getting from the adults in the house.

  • orator

    It’s sort of different. It wasn’t their fault she had appendicitis… they couldn’t have prevented her from having appendicitis, but you could have prevented your son from getting hurt in the first place. The negligence in your case was letting him work in the woodshop unsupervised. Even though you resolved the issue, you were still negligent to begin with. You’re right that the negligence in their case was not checking up on her and not taking her to a doctor. They didn’t think she needed a doctor, for whatever reason. I don’t have any insight into exactly how she felt and everything so I don’t know what made them think she would be okay.

  • RunecirE

    They didn’t think she needed a doctor, for whatever reason. I don’t have any insight into exactly how she felt and everything so I don’t know what made them think she would be okay.

    And that’s the rub I keep coming across, I don’t know if they thought about her at all. There are countless cases of kids being left in vehicles, locked in closets, etc, etc. The article gives me the impression she had been “swept under the rug”.

    HE is/was and EMT. How could he not think this was a bad situation? When my child is home sick with a cold and I’m at work, I am calling him 2 – 3 times a day to make sure he’s OK. ( Annoys the HELL out of him, too. “I’m Fine! *sniff*”) If he has a fever, I DON”T GO TO WORK. Maybe its just me, IDK. Just seems they should have done a lot more than they did.

  • Athena

    The EMT bit us what’s tripping me up, as well. I mean, if he were some desk jockey, I might be able to divert the responsibility solely to the step mom. But, if a child is violently ill for more than 24 hours, that should set off some serious alarms to anyone with a working knowledge of medicine, much less an EMT who has multiple children.

    Hell, if I puke more than twice, I’m making a doctor’s appointment. The vomiting/diarrhea/fever combination in and of itself can be deadly if the body’s not kept properly hydrated; anything a doctor might be able to do to lessen those symptons would be welcome. That’s aside from the fact that these symptoms are associated with several dangerous illnesses. The flu alone kills over a hundred children in the U.S. every year. Sure, most of them are under the age of 5, but 8 year olds aren’t exactly out of the woods.

    Parents in their thirties have no reason to NOT know these things. I’m a 26 year old who has never had a child, and even I know this stuff. At the end of the day, step mom being sick and dad being at work don’t excuse the lack of regular parental supervision for a 48-hour period of time.

    Of course, if you expand the scope a bit, there’s the fact that the oldest sibling was caring for more than one sick child, the fact that vomit and cat shit was dried into the carpet and the fact that step mom felt the need to lie pretty blatantly about the last time she checked up on the child. None of these things bodes well for the “it was an innocent oversight” argument. Unless step mom was even more sick than these children and dad was pulling 14 hour days, the elements of this case illustrate flagrant disregard, unfortunately.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    catches panties, twirls them overhead like a lasso.

    Nice catch – Here comes the bra!

  • RunecirE

    Nice catch – Here comes the bra!

    Wow… get’n a little risquette(sp) aroung here isn’t it? Course, I only say that because I am not included. My perspective would be different if I was Included. Would feel happier if I was INCLUDED.

    …uhmmmmmm

    I WOULD LOVE TO BE INCLUDED!

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I WOULD LOVE TO BE INCLUDED!

    *redirects bra at RunecirE*

  • RunecirE

    Yeeehawwww… jumps in air… catches bra… tuck and double roll onto floor…

    stands up TRIUMPHANTLY with bra dangling from teeth.

    YEAH…i’m THAT good!

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    stands up TRIUMPHANTLY with bra dangling from teeth.

    Wow – I’m impressed. What other trick do you have up your sleeve?

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Nice catch – Here comes the bra!

    *redirects bra at RunecirE*

    Yeeehawwww… jumps in air… catches bra… tuck and double roll onto floor…

    stands up TRIUMPHANTLY with bra dangling from teeth.

    reaches up, sees a blur, bra gone, scratches head in confusion

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    reaches up, sees a blur, bra gone, scratches head in confusion

    I have no more under garments – Sorry. I’ll go get dressed and be back.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    how bout a sock

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    how bout a sock

    Cuz that’s sexy. *snicker*

    Here comes a sock…

    *balls it up and hurls it*

  • Lynn

    Get a room.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Here comes a sock…

    *balls it up and hurls it*

    catches in mouth and shakes head

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Get a room.

    You comin’ with??

    catches in mouth and shakes head

    Growling like a dog??

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Get a room.

    oh yeah right, sorry,

    back to on topic.
    What the hell is he wearing in that picture.
    She looks strung out on drugs. Could just be because she’s supposedly sick, but based on his military and EMT work, one would think he’d be a decent guy. Most guys I know with military experience do not tolerate filth at all. I wonder if she’s gotten him into drugs?

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Growling like a dog??

    yes, I meant to put that.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    back to on topic.What the hell is he wearing in that picture.She looks strung out on drugs. Could just be because she’s supposedly sick, but based on his military and EMT work, one would think he’d be a decent guy. Most guys I know with military experience do not tolerate filth at all. I wonder if she’s gotten him into drugs?

    I’m going with – she is just down right trashy. Who leaves a sick child in the care of a 10 year old? I wouldn’t leave a healthy child in the care of a 10 year old.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    yeah, that’s a little young to be handeling the responsibility they gave him. I know as an EMT it is probably a big deal to call off work, but he should have recognized the possibilities here and tried to arrange for some adult supervision.

    I hate calling off work for any reason, I’ve called off work twice in the last 3 years, 4 times in the last 8, but both times in the last 3 were because my girlfriend was sick, so I stayed home to take care of the baby even though she said she’d be fine, and the baby was not sick, I just felt it was the thing to do. And it’s not that big of a deal if I have to call off.
    Even if I had another kid that was 10, I think I’d still do the same thing.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I hate calling off work for any reason, I’ve called off work twice in the last 3 years, 4 times in the last 8, but both times in the last 3 were because my girlfriend was sick, so I stayed home to take care of the baby even though she said she’d be fine, and the baby was not sick, I just felt it was the thing to do. And it’s not that big of a deal if I have to call off.

    That just means that you are a responsible man.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    That just means that you are a responsible man.

    Why thank you, I don’t know if I’d go to far with that though.
    That or I worry too much and have a complex about letting others down.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Why thank you, I don’t know if I’d go to far with that though.That or I worry too much and have a complex about letting others down.

    It’s really not hard to be responsibel when it comes to children. It’s not rocket science. I can’t figure out how these two failed. Lazy… Just plain lazy.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Lazy… Just plain lazy.

    That really seems to be exacly what it was and that’s what’s so disturbing.
    What could have been more important.
    I can’t imagine the feeling of guilt if I suspected there may be something wrong with my daughter but convinced myself, nah she’ll be fine it’s probably just….whatever.
    because It was not a good time for me to get to the ER, and then she wound up dead.
    We’ve already been there once for turns out no reason.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I took my son to the urgent care just before Thanksgiving because he had bitten through his tongue. I was a wreck. He was totally calm. The blood freaked me out a little. The next day, he threw up from taking the antibiotic on an empty tummy. I stayed home with him. Now he was not as sick as Sarah – but you see where I am going with this. If he is even a little sick, I stay home, make him comfy, kiss and hug him. It’s a no brainer.

  • MadeaBecBec

    This could be the reason one of the other children is hospitalized with a colon infection

    C-diff resides in the colon and spreads through spores found in feces. These spores cannot be killed by conventional household cleaners and that’s why it spreads so easily. What really makes C-diff dangerous is that it is resistant to many antibiotics.

    The umm, cat “poo” residing in said carpet could be the culprit and this 6 year old is suffering from a nasty house….. Which parent is the bio of 6 year old? Obviously the 10 yera old was giving him medication, was it prescription? Just a thought…..

    Poor Little Sarah, So Sorry you had to die without loving arms around you! *sniff*

  • knotme

    The fact that the children were expected to clean-up their own body fluids off the carpet at such a young age literally SCREAMS to me that these adults had no inclinations towards being responsible caretakers of these children. When a child vomits (no matter where it occurs), this is a clear indication that the child is ill… hello! Furthermore, since the woman didn’t clean the cat shit off the carpet either, only SCREAMS to me that she was a lazy slob who forced these little kids to literally take care of themselves because she just didn’t want to be bothered with them. The only reason she even lived in the same space with them is because she was sleeping with the Daddy; she wanted no other function outside being his cunt. Hey, I’m just calling it the way it really is… she didn’t want to be bothered and the sorry ass father likely was only too happy to be her penis if she’d be a babysitter and do his parenting job for him. These two adults only served each other and the kids were nothing but an inconvenience.

  • MAjustaMom

    .What the hell is he wearing in that picture.?

    My question exactly! Looks like bullet-proof gear? Weird

  • Wonder

    I just watched, “Sam I Am” with Michelle Pfieffer and Sean Penn SARAH reminds me of the little girl that played “Lucy” aka Dakota Fanning.

    http://movies.tvguide.com/sam/135547

    http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/dakota-fanning/145741

  • Wonder

    oh i have to share this video, Dakota is grown up plays “Caroline Jones”
    http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/dakota-fanning/news/145741

    the younger Dakota on Ellen show :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A7YMEDew44&feature=related

    sorry for the off topic but … What makes Dakota so Smart :D

    http://dakotafanningnews.wordpress.com/category/what-makes-dakota-so-smart/

  • sugarglider

    Useless!

    So, Miss Shitty Mama is a stay at home mom, but still can’t find time to clean up or to provide for her children’s physical well-being? Useless, useless bitch.

  • Castille

    My question exactly! Looks like bullet-proof gear? Weird

    It’s a suicide safety smock.

  • thinmints

    I know the children in this household. I know their schools have called CPS to report neglect, particularly in the case of the 6 year old boy. The 10 year old is really a kind, responsible kid who didn’t deserve to be put in the situation he was in. And Sarah was such a sweet, adorable child. I just can’t even begin to understand how she was ignored when she had to have been in such pain. Also, for the person who asked before – the 10 year old boy, Sarah and the 6 year old boy are David’s children.

  • orator

    I know the children in this household. I know their schools have called CPS to report neglect, particularly in the case of the 6 year old boy. The 10 year old is really a kind, responsible kid who didn’t deserve to be put in the situation he was in. And Sarah was such a sweet, adorable child. I just can’t even begin to understand how she was ignored when she had to have been in such pain. Also, for the person who asked before – the 10 year old boy, Sarah and the 6 year old boy are David’s children.

    thinmints – do you know who is caring for Samantha’s two children? I know David’s children are with their birth mother, Jo-Anne.

    And does anyone know why their bail would be so high? I heard from family that it is one million dollars… is that because David might try to kill himself if he was let out?

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    And does anyone know why their bail would be so high? I heard from family that it is one million dollars… is that because David might try to kill himself if he was let out?

    One million dollars bail is not that uncommon in cases labeled child abuse, even if the child did not die. Suicide and flight risk could play into that also. It’s really up to the judge.

  • http://DreaminDemon thinkstraight

    You see what I mean!!!! I get outraged as I read these stories. WHERE WAS ACS, or POLICE, or A JUDGE? You know, these source type examples were perfect for putting an end to this before the death, not after. I am as sure as I am sure my parents made me that this girl would not have suffered that had there been action taken a long time ago. SAD :(

  • chickadee

    This is such a heartbreaking story. I hope that these two so-called ‘parents’ get the book thrown at them. As far as Samantha’s children, I’ve heard that they are with their biological father.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    I know the children in this household. I know their schools have called CPS to report neglect, particularly in the case of the 6 year old boy.

    This just makes it all the more heartbreaking. Now I really can’t understand anyone defending them.

  • Athena

    If that allegation about the school making calls to CPS is true, the defenders are clearly defending from a position of ignorance and blind faith… dangerous things.

  • showstopper

    Ok so….reading these comments, honestly makes me laugh.

    CPS was supposidly called about “neglect” with the 6 yr old. Obviously nothing happened if the child is still living in the household. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. For you involent ignorents…when there is a situation brought to CPS, an investigation is performed. They come to the house to do an investigation, they question the mother and father, bla bla bla. SO…obviously theres something that these 2 are doing right if they still have custody of their kids.
    The mother has been trying to get custody of her children since 07. Well, clearly that hasn’t worked in her favor….due to LACK OF EVIDENCE. Lack of evidence means there is no reason to take these children away from their father. And usually, the court usually goes in favor of the mother, so apparently this one doesn’t get mother of the year.

    Now…for all you parents leaving comments on here. I’ve been in childcare for over 5 years now. I am not a parent myself. But damn, common sense. If the step-mom had the stomach flu, which is a highly contagious illness, why on earth would anyone suspect “Oh she must have apendicitis.” She was 8. An 8 year old would be able to tell you her stomach hurts, and people don’t always have symptoms of apendicitis. Obviously her stomach wasn’t hurting her that severely to cause any alarm. The stomach virus takes up to 14 days to clear out of your system. You might not be throwing up or pooping, but regardless, it takes 14 days to clear out completely. Yes, throwing up and having the runs MUST mean this child has apendicitis. Really, c’mon now. Use your heads.

    I saw my grandmother after she passed away…ohhh about 3 or 4 hours after the fact. Rigormortis does NOT set in that quickly. She was put down for a nap because she DIDN’T FEEL GOOD. Thats what kids do when their sick. They sleep. Hell, thats what I do when I don’t feel well. Just because her 10 year old brother was helping take care of her doesn’t mean he was “left in charge of her.” Step-mom was sick, was she not? Its kind of hard to take care of a child when your on the toilet every 5 minutes either throwing up or coming out the other end. He’s a big brother who loves his little sister and knows mom needs help.

    Its so easy for people to pass judgement when their on the outside looking in. This was a tragic incident, there is no doubt about that. People say ignorance is bliss. Ha….yeah right. You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear. Do you always believe everything you hear? You shouldn’t. If everyone believed everything they ever heard, this world would be in SERIOUS trouble. We are not “defending from a position of ignorance and blind faith.” We’re defending because we know the details. These people are not monsters. They just lost their daughter. I think that’s suffering enough. They don’t need ignorant bullshit comments from people like you judging their lives like you know whats happening. You know what the media tells you. The media doesn’t give a damn about these people, or what happened. All their worried about is getting their story.

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people like you. Who judge a book by its cover, without taking the time to read the chapters.

  • RunecirE

    She was 8. An 8 year old would be able to tell you her stomach hurts, and people don’t always have symptoms of apendicitis. .

    Excuse us, you ignorant FUCK, when a child has the stomach flu, you don’t leave them lying on a mattress to be tended to by a 10yo boy. She was not eating, she WAS vomitting and had diarrhea. She should have gone to the ER or at least been taken to her doctor’s. 8yo’s cannot sustain healthy bodily function when they are deprived of sustenance and are losing what they do have because of vomitting and bowel movements. Do not try to lecture a site full of grandparents and parents about how children should be taken care of if you have not had to do it yourself.

    Good for you for being in childcare for over 5 years…doing what exactly? Easy to say childcare, but if all you do is watch them in a daycare while they color and fingerpaint, that doesn’t exactly put you in the expert catagory.

  • Shizz

    showstopper,

    It is downright frightening that someone as cold and ignorant as you is “in childcare.”

    Please reconsider your career path!

  • Lavonna

    I love how people who don’t have kids love to tell those with kids how it is. !!

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people like you. Who judge a book by its cover, without taking the time to read the chapters.

    We read the chapters and fucking hated the book! First of all, her running a fever and not able to eat should been enough to take that child to the doctor. They chose to ignore it and let her 10 year old brother take care of her. That my friend, is called neglect and stupidity.
    They should be suffering only God knows what that child went through her last few hours on earth!
    RIP Sarah

  • Lavonna

    Excuse us, you ignorant FUCK, when a child has the stomach flu, you don’t leave them lying on a mattress to be tended to by a 10yo boy. She was not eating, she WAS vomitting and had diarrhea. She should have gone to the ER or at least been taken to her doctor’s. 8yo’s cannot sustain healthy bodily function when they are deprived of sustenance and are losing what they do have because of vomitting and bowel movements. Do not try to lecture a site full of grandparents and parents about how children should be taken care of if you have not had to do it yourself.

    LOL That was nice!

    It is downright frightening that someone as cold and ignorant as you is “in childcare.”

    :-D

  • RunecirE

    Idea!!!!

    Lets give SHOWSTOPPER the stomach flu, throw him in a room to be tended by a 10yo, leave him there for two days, and see much how he is loving life. Oh yeah, and if he pukes or shits, he has to clean it up himself, since that was the RULE OF THE HOUSE.

  • Lavonna

    Lets give SHOWSTOPPER the stomach flu, throw him in a room to be tended by a 10yo, leave him there for two days, and see much how he is loving life. Oh yeah, and if he pukes or shits, he has to clean it up himself, since that was the RULE OF THE HOUSE.

    Ok, lets do that :-)

  • jj999

    Showstopper says: “For you involent ignorents”.
    What the heck is an involent ignorents????
    Please do explain to us…
    I gotta say I sure am glad that you don’t take care of any kids I know, if you think it’ s OK to leave a sick child lying on the floor unattended until they die. And leave them still unattended after they die until they are cold.
    We aren’t going by the media, we are going by the police reports and the public record arresting documents.
    About CPS…are you completely stupid?? (sorry, silly question, you ARE on here defending these assholes) Maybe you are just naive, but if you think that CPS in infallible and is doing a super duper job 100% of the time, then you are living in fantasy land. No goverment agency is that good.
    If you feel so sorry for us, perhaps you should not come here anymore. We ENJOY shaming assholes such as the ones you are defending. That’s what this site is all about, idjit.

  • RunecirE

    Please, jj999, don’t tell him to go away, he might cry, and I was having such fun picturing ways to torture this ignoramus. (Sorry SHOWSTOPPER, lemme spek down to ya… i called u a s-s-stepid FUCK!)

  • bahaley4e

    Now…for all you parents leaving comments on here. I’ve been in childcare for over 5 years now. I am not a parent myself. But damn, common sense. If the step-mom had the stomach flu, which is a highly contagious illness, why on earth would anyone suspect “Oh she must have apendicitis.” She was 8. An 8 year old would be able to tell you her stomach hurts, and people don’t always have symptoms of apendicitis. Obviously her stomach wasn’t hurting her that severely to cause any alarm. The stomach virus takes up to 14 days to clear out of your system. You might not be throwing up or pooping, but regardless, it takes 14 days to clear out completely. Yes, throwing up and having the runs MUST mean this child has apendicitis. Really, c’mon now. Use your heads.

    Im glad your not a parent and I hope you never are. It amazes me that people like you work in childcare…. Apendicitis or the flu…whatever the hell is was she should have taken care of her child. Im not explaining myself to you. Im pregnant and Im going to be a great mother, Ive done my homework and Ive prepared myself for what Ive got coming. People like Sam and David and yourself done deserve to be parents.

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people like you. Who judge a book by its cover, without taking the time to read the chapters.

    Well Ive read the chapters..Ive met a million people just like Samantha and you… and I just recently decided that ya’ll are cookie cut outs and frankly…. I dont care too much for reading bout you assclowns anymore!

  • jj999

    Sorry RunecirE,
    Puhleeeze, Showstopper, come back and defend these assholes some more.
    It is kinda fun to pick you apart, too.
    Also…
    While you are at it please enlighten us as to the meaning of “involent ignorents”. I really want to know.

  • Athena

    We are not “defending from a position of ignorance and blind faith.” We’re defending because we know the details.

    Really? What details, then? I’m quite curious, because not a single defender has been able to offer ANYTHING in the way of details. In fact, it seems most of them live miles away from this family and hadn’t seen them in god knows how long. I wonder how one might be privy to details under those circumstances? I have some cousins who live in California. Even though I talk to them regularly, I certainly can’t speak on the condition of their houses or their ability to parent. Have you spent a good chunk of time at their house in the last month?

    All I see you doing is a lot of postulating. For example, the assumption that a CPS investigation failing to uncover abuse or neglect suggests that there is no abuse or neglect. Problem with that assessment is, CPS fails miserably all the time. Stick around. We post a story every week, practically, that features a dead child as the result of a botched CPS investigation. In some cases, the CPS is involved with families for YEARS without turning up enough evidence to remove children from a home… Until it’s too late.

    Its kind of hard to take care of a child when your on the toilet every 5 minutes either throwing up or coming out the other end.

    When I was a child, my mom never failed to check up on me because she was sick, no matter how sick she was. But, since you have details, why don’t you explain to us why step-mom LIED about the last time she checked on the child? Why would she feel the need to do that if she didn’t think she had done something wrong?

    Details, ShowStopper. You said you had ‘em – now, ante up.

  • RunecirE

    Also…While you are at it please enlighten us as to the meaning of “involent ignorents”. I really want to know.

    Me tu, …i mean also, …i mean as well. :D

  • RunecirE

    Details, ShowStopper. You said you had ‘em – now, ante up.

    Well spoke, Athena. Be careful, though, you might lose him with the big words “postulating” :D

  • Lavonna

    Also…While you are at it please enlighten us as to the meaning of “involent ignorents”. I really want to know.

    Are those real words? Think they meant involved ignorants?
    :-D

  • jj999

    Athena,
    every one of the ‘defender’ that has commented on this case have said the same thing. I know for a FACT that so and so is a wonderful parent, blah blah, and I can PROVE that the medical examiners and police and media are just making this up.
    Not one of them yet has actually offered any facts to back up what they are saying. I guess they can’t get around the main facts in this case:
    #1 FACT – Child was sick
    #2 FACT – Child was not given any medical attention and died alone and unattended
    #3 FACT – Child was dead unattended long enough to be cold and for rigor to set in.
    Kinda hard to defend around that, and probably why nobody actually has offered any proof, facts, or mitigating factors in this case so far.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people like you. Who judge a book by its cover, without taking the time to read the chapters.

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people who talk about themselves and don’t even realize it. I seriously doubt you have read a chapter of anything beyond “Tarding for Dummies”.

  • Lavonna

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people who talk about themselves and don’t even realize it. I seriously doubt you have read a chapter of anything beyond “Tarding for Dummies”.

    haha

  • RunecirE

    I think he meant “insolent”…

    And he simply mispelled ignorant… and he probably pronounces it igNORant

  • RunecirE

    Quite frankly, I feel sorry for people who talk about themselves and don’t even realize it. I seriously doubt you have read a chapter of anything beyond “Tarding for Dummies”.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….. Dakota…you slay me :D

  • Tassa

    OK I actually had appendicitis when I was 8. The pain is excruciating and mine didn’t even rupture! My mom isn’t the brightest bulb in the box, but even she knew something was up, when I said “I can’t sit still or get comfortable, it hurts too bad!” She took me to the doctor and I was in surgery that night. Her death was 100% preventable. I don’t know the stats, but how many people do you think actually DIE of appendicitis anymore?!

    Also, Step-Mom wasn’t caring for her because SHE had the stomach flu? Once the kid started puking and complaining of stomach pains, her “I didn’t want to get her sick” excuse flies right out the window! If they all thought the girl was coming down with the flu too, there was no reason for mama to stay away.

    If you are a responsible parent, you don’t have a house with cat shit on the floor and you damn sure take care of your kids no matter how the fuck you “feel!”

  • RunecirE

    The pain is excruciating and mine didn’t even rupture!

    From what I have learned (not first-hand) the danger comes when the pain stops, because it only stops AFTER it has ruptured. I’ve been told at that point it could be a matter of minutes whether you live or die.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    Now…for all you parents leaving comments on here. I’ve been in childcare for over 5 years now. I am not a parent myself.

    You obviously do not have any knowledge to show for it.
    I’m guessing that 5 years ago you really needed a job and KinderCare happened to be the closest place hiring.

  • Tassa

    From what I have learned (not first-hand) the danger comes when the pain stops, because it only stops AFTER it has ruptured. I’ve been told at that point it could be a matter of minutes whether you live or die.

    Still, my mom made me go to school that morning thinking that I just had a minor stomach ache. Three teachers refused to let me go to the nurse. They made me wait until lunchtime to go home. I had surgery at about 8pm. Not that my experience necessarily translates to this one, but I was in pain for a good 12 hours! How can you let a child writhe in pain for hours and think its OK? Stomach flu or appendicitis.

  • RunecirE

    Dunno…I know I wouldn’t. Were the other symptoms prevalent…vomitting, diarrhea?

  • biteme

    Also, Step-Mom wasn’t caring for her because SHE had the stomach flu? Once the kid started puking and complaining of stomach pains, her “I didn’t want to get her sick” excuse flies right out the window! If they all thought the girl was coming down with the flu too, there was no reason for mama to stay away.

    If you are a responsible parent, you don’t have a house with cat shit on the floor and you damn sure take care of your kids no matter how the fuck you “feel!”

    When I was a child, my mom never failed to check up on me because she was sick, no matter how sick she was. But, since you have details, why don’t you explain to us why step-mom LIED about the last time she checked on the child? Why would she feel the need to do that if she didn’t think she had done something wrong?

    yeah! kind of covers it all

  • http://www.myspace.com/momof62006 Undeniable Truth

    LMFAO.

    Did you just say that since CPS didn’t take the kids, they must’ve been doing something right?? Get the fuck out of here!

    Tell that to Christopher Barnard and the countless other children WHO WERE UTTERLY FAILED BY CPS. In fact…while you’re at it tell my stepsons too. You’ll have to tell Connor really loudly though, since his bitch of mother made him practically deaf while CPS twiddled their thumbs and said “We know it’s bad, but there’s no obvious sign of physical damage to the children!”

    As far as I’m concerned, you just made yourself a bigger joke than CPS is.

  • Athena

    Incidentally…

    The article not only says that step-mom and dad didn’t even realize Sarah was sick. It also makes no mention of step-mom being sick.

    So, have we even confirmed step-mom was sick? Or is this an assumption that developed as the result of the defenders spewing random shit?

  • ecvmanzo

    RunecirE, Stupid fuck is an undertstatement for showstopper…

    5 years in Childcare makes this one an expert? Wow, then the years that I worked for a dental office makes me a Dentist!!! Yay me and I didn’t have to spend years, and years in college!

    I say the only thing this person is an expert in is Bullshit.

  • RunecirE

    oooo….i got it…ShowStopper is actually pretty clever…

    INVOLENT = invalid + insolent, IOW crabby, bedridden person.

    Hey…he can’t call us that… you ignoranus (= stupid person + asshole)

  • ecvmanzo

    IGNORANUS? Too funny.

  • Lavonna

    So what happened to Show stopper? They didn’t want no more? Not even gonna try to defend their dumbass remarks?

  • RunecirE

    IGNORANUS? Too funny.

    Yes, but it’s a powerful word, so use it sparingly and direct it only at those who truely deserve it wrath. Similar to using a bazooka. :o

  • http://myspace.com/cinny123 cinny123

    I had 2 kids that had appendicitis; one was 8 at the time and one 17.
    My 8yr. old son said he had a stomache, that was his only symptom.
    My husband pressed on my son’s right side(and quickly let go. If there is a painful response[called guarding---and an EMT should KNOW that] then THAT is a pretty sure sign of appendicitis.) and he had a reaction of severe pain. He was taken to the ER and ended up having surgery.
    My teen daughter was somewhat different. Once again just pain, no vomiting/diarrhea.
    But she had IBS, with made it harder to tell, since severe pain in her gut was common.
    But took her too the ER just in case—Yep, it was appendicitis!
    Good grief, a small child with vomiting/diarrhea for days and not taking her to the dr—that is unexcusable!
    And expecting a sick child to clean her own vomit up; appearently she didn’t make the cat clean up it’s own feces, they walked on it and ground it into the carpet!

  • R.I.P.Sarah!!

    Umm if the morons truly cared they would have took her to the hospital.

    They were to LAZY!!

  • Blah

    Of course you would take up for those lying sacks of shit.

    Why did Sam lie? Saying she chatted with Sarah 15 min before when Sarah was dead.

    EVIL!

  • /gdjf.df

    You weren't there so you don't know the truth either. You're just going by whate your loser family is saying.

  • truth77776

    so…. anyone still interested in thee real truth??? truth by some one who was there??

  • Lizard

    Oh, for God's sake. Are you another one who is going to claim to know “the facts” of the case and then fail to share them?

  • Deety

    They didn't do it, you don't know them, they're wonderful parents, it's a conspiracy by the police and the news, you shouldn't believe everything you read, and what about being innocent until proven guilty!

    Just thought I'd save 'Truth' the trouble of typing that all out. ;-)

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UWEPEIHZR5QUADEGA4E4QMKI5E deniseh

    ok this is my 1st visit to this site, I found it by typing in Sarah Brasse, my interest into this child is that I have worked w/ her younger brother N___. he now lives w/ his mother and still is suffering daily, he has told me more than once that he wants to die and be with his sister… he is only in 1st grade… I don't believe that David or his wife were hoping/expecting Sarah to die, I just think they were to into THEMSELVES to care for children,how many PAINFUL ear infections, strep throat infections, common colds do you think these children had endure without medical care? I'm sure they thought it was something that would just go away why spend money on a Dr visit. I had an appendicitis in 1970 at the age of 8 and I remember how painful it was and my parents had me in the hospital within an hour of the cramps starting..you say you know them, then write WHY you believe they were such great parents? I really would like to know..

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UWEPEIHZR5QUADEGA4E4QMKI5E deniseh

    yes tell us… then maybe I can help her 6 year old brother N___. understand and quit wanting to die to be with is sister…

  • Sugarglider1

    Aw, that's so sad about Sarah's brother. Were these parents convicted of anything? There were times I had a stomach virus for days as a child, and didn't see a doctor–and yet, while my mother was a single parent and a full-time student, and we didn't have much money at all, I would in no way characterize her as a “bad” mom. What did the investigation into these parents show??

  • Eracsurfer

    Oooo…and don't forget my favorite… The sheriff was up for re-election.

  • Eracsurfer

    Well… you've had 2 weeks to think something up. We are all waiting with bated breath.

  • Eracsurfer

    Thank you for stopping by and bringing this back to the forefront.

    I hope that her brother (some day) will be able to move on and find happiness somehow. Based on what I have read, it seems like he was the only one to try to comfort Sarah. I hope that he does not blame himself for her death. He and Sarah are the victims here, the difference is that his abuse didn't end with her death.

  • Anonymous

    Her brother will always, for the rest of his life, blame himself. Even with years of therapy, and endless rationalization (telling himself that he was only 10 and what could a 10-year old child do in such circumstances), even if he is able to forgive himself, there will always be a part of him, even if it is just a small part, that will blame himself. If he can move on, he might still be able to have a happy life, but he will be haunted by this to the end of his days. He will always think that, regardless of his age, he could have done something, anything, to stop his sister’s death. He will worry that, if his parents allowed his sister to die, that they could and would do the same to him, and his siblings, and he will never truly feel safe again. He will never be able to trust his parents fully again – if you can’t trust your parents, who can you trust? This will impact all his relationships in the future and his ability to trust others. When he gets sick in the future, he will be terrified out of all proportion to the nature of his illness that his parents might let him die. He will worry later on that, if his parents were able to let their child die, might he, being of their blood, be capable of doing the same to his own children? He will have nightmares about this for the rest of his life and will relive those 27 hours over and over until he is an old man. He will find virtually no one that has been through the same thing that will ever understand, and he will forever feel set apart from the rest of the human race. If he is asked how many siblings he has, he will have to decide whether to include his sister. If he does, then he has to make the choice of whether to simply say she died from appendicitis, which will make him feel like he is betraying her all over again, or to tell the truth, which will make himself and others uncomfortable, and make him feel like he is somehow less of a human being than the people he told. He won’t be able to put the blame for withholding medical care on his parents’ religious beliefs like many other cases of negligent homicide, and will always know that it was just because they couldn’t be bothered. He will hope that there really is life after death because he needs so desperately to tell his sister “I’m sorry I didn’t save you, I’m so sorry I let you die.”

    Sarah lost her life, her parents lost their child, the children lost their sister, but it is the 10-year old boy, aside from Sarah, who has lost the most.

    I know of what I speak.

  • Anonymous

    Her brother will always, for the rest of his life, blame himself. Even with years of therapy, and endless rationalization (telling himself that he was only 10 and what could a 10-year old child do in such circumstances), even if he is able to forgive himself, there will always be a part of him, even if it is just a small part, that will blame himself. If he can move on, he might still be able to have a happy life, but he will be haunted by this to the end of his days. He will always think that, regardless of his age, he could have done something, anything, to stop his sister’s death. He will worry that, if his parents allowed his sister to die, that they could and would do the same to him, and his siblings, and he will never truly feel safe again. He will never be able to trust his parents fully again – if you can’t trust your parents, who can you trust? This will impact all his relationships in the future and his ability to trust others. When he gets sick in the future, he will be terrified out of all proportion to the nature of his illness that his parents might let him die. He will worry later on that, if his parents were able to let their child die, might he, being of their blood, be capable of doing the same to his own children? He will have nightmares about this for the rest of his life and will relive those 27 hours over and over until he is an old man. He will find virtually no one that has been through the same thing that will ever understand, and he will forever feel set apart from the rest of the human race. If he is asked how many siblings he has, he will have to decide whether to include his sister. If he does, then he has to make the choice of whether to simply say she died from appendicitis, which will make him feel like he is betraying her all over again, or to tell the truth, which will make himself and others uncomfortable, and make him feel like he is somehow less of a human being than the people he told. He won’t be able to put the blame for withholding medical care on his parents’ religious beliefs like many other cases of negligent homicide, and will always know that it was just because they couldn’t be bothered. He will hope that there really is life after death because he needs so desperately to tell his sister “I’m sorry I didn’t save you, I’m so sorry I let you die.”

    Sarah lost her life, her parents lost their child, the children lost their sister, but it is the 10-year old boy, aside from Sarah, who has lost the most.

    I know of what I speak.

  • MayPullSearUp

    Her brother will always, for the rest of his life, blame himself. Even with years of therapy, and endless rationalization (telling himself that he was only 10 and what could a 10-year old child do in such circumstances), even if he is able to forgive himself, there will always be a part of him, even if it is just a small part, that will blame himself. If he can move on, he might still be able to have a happy life, but he will be haunted by this to the end of his days. He will always think that, regardless of his age, he could have done something, anything, to stop his sister’s death. He will worry that, if his parents allowed his sister to die, that they could and would do the same to him, and his siblings, and he will never truly feel safe again. He will never be able to trust his parents fully again – if you can’t trust your parents, who can you trust? This will impact all his relationships in the future and his ability to trust others. When he gets sick in the future, he will be terrified out of all proportion to the nature of his illness that his parents might let him die. He will worry later on that, if his parents were able to let their child die, might he, being of their blood, be capable of doing the same to his own children? He will have nightmares about this for the rest of his life and will relive those 27 hours over and over until he is an old man. He will find virtually no one that has been through the same thing that will ever understand, and he will forever feel set apart from the rest of the human race. If he is asked how many siblings he has, he will have to decide whether to include his sister. If he does, then he has to make the choice of whether to simply say she died from appendicitis, which will make him feel like he is betraying her all over again, or to tell the truth, which will make himself and others uncomfortable, and make him feel like he is somehow less of a human being than the people he told. He won’t be able to put the blame for withholding medical care on his parents’ religious beliefs like many other cases of negligent homicide, and will always know that it was just because they couldn’t be bothered. He will hope that there really is life after death because he needs so desperately to tell his sister “I’m sorry I didn’t save you, I’m so sorry I let you die.”

    Sarah lost her life, her parents lost their child, the children lost their sister, but it is the 10-year old boy, aside from Sarah, who has lost the most.

    I know of what I speak.

  • Slim