I suppose we'll just have to tolerate public billboards to get the message across to the horny ignorants in our society... maybe these little babies will have a chance to grow up with a better IQ, at least.  No matter what you do, there are still people out there who will do the irresponsible thing; they have no moral code to begin with... what's a human life (except an inconvenience) to them anyway?  Trash in human skin.

Abroad:
Supposing you are right: Did he? If he did, what did she do with the money?
Baby-killer, yes. Not so certain I can agree about the whore part, whether she was raped or had a boyfriend who couldn’t wait until she was old enough to consent.

A - whore as in a dirty scumbag. 
http://www.chieftain.com/articles/2009/05/15/news/local/doc4a0cfe4be6dfb351343463.txt

Mare:
It was statutory rape.  Baby daddy was her boyfriend.  She even asked him to pay for her abortion before moving from Colorado.
 

Supposing you are right: Did he? If he did, what did she do with the money?

Baby-killer, yes. Not so certain I can agree about the whore part, whether she was raped or had a boyfriend who couldn't wait until she was old enough to consent.

Cassandra:
How are Rape victims whores? She didn’t have a choice of taking precautions. She didn’t choose to spread her legs around. That POS rapist probably robbed her of her virginity.
She needs help, not life in prison.

It was statutory rape.  Baby daddy was her boyfriend.  She even asked him to pay for her abortion before moving from Colorado.

She is a baby killing whore, regardless of her age.

How  did you know that it was the son of your raped daughter lying there in the trash?  "OMG My daughter was raped, got pregnant, threw the baby away!" Isn't going to be really high on my list of WTF Happened Here.

I see a dead baby in my garbage and I am NOT going to be worried about missing the garbage man.  Does not matter whose baby I think it is.

buggysmommy:
i am in a foul mood today and this one just helped it along…
How does one look a new baby-a freshie-in the face and rather than hold him in her arms- hold him down in a toilet? Not only did this bitch murder her baby, she had to do it in an undignifed way by drowning him in a toilet. He didn’t ask for her to be a fucking whore by spreading her legs without taking precautions. He didn’t ask to be created. Stupid whore. Hope she gets everything coming to her…

How are Rape victims whores? She didn't have a choice of taking precautions. She didn't choose to spread her legs around. That POS rapist probably robbed her of her virginity.

She needs help, not life in prison.

Just what would you do if you opened the top to your garbage dumpster and found a baby wrapped in a plastic grocery bag just when the garbage truck was there to empty it? It wasn’t like he had time to think about it. I know that I could not even imagine what I would do if put in the same situation.

This question floors me.
Do we need to make a fucking instructional video for all these fucking morons.
Was the garbage man threatening to kick Ron's ass if he didn't fork over the trash can RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
Anyone who would not say hey, wait a minute, has some serious developmental issues.

Sounds like the Police in that town need to go a little outside the law once in a while to keep the area safe from all the moronic Meth head non-functioners like yourself there Geena Davis.

Thank you Zibarro…couldn’t have said it better myself!

You're welcome.

A tard rant first thing in the morning is refreshing - and quite cathartic when you're already in a bad mood! LOL I guess I should thank geena for giving me the opportunity to direct my anger her way - sparing my S.O. (significant other) from a (well deserved) tongue lashing! :-P

Thank you Zibarro...couldn't have said it better myself!

Good Morning, Tard.

The law enforcement in Port Angeles and in all of Clallam County, are corrupt. 60 minutes reported that Clallam Co. was the 3rd most corrupt county in the united states.
You can ask anybody that lives here. Police lie, plant evidence, entrap and set people up. They stalk people. I know this myself as 2 city police officers have made my life a living hell in the last year.
They have done the same to Ron. Sure he was in prison but he did his time and paid for the crimes. The cops were there to search for a dead baby. Not to try him for his past.

Uh huh. Police are corrupt everywhere. I don't see how that fits this situation though. Did they "plant" the dead baby? Did they "entrap" Ron into looking into that dumpster/trash can and then quickly dump it so he could say he didn't have the chance to react "correctly." Did they get his daughter pregnant, cause her to kill her newborn child and throw it in the trash can for Ron to find just so they could "set him up"? Did they "stalk" him, just hoping he would find a dead baby in the trash and ignore it? No? Then none of that has a DAMN thing to do with this case so GET-OVER-IT!
How did they "try him for his past"? They found drugs! In the present -- they aren't charging him with drug possession from years ago! Argh.

Just what would you do if you opened the top to your garbage dumpster and found a baby wrapped in a plastic grocery bag just when the garbage truck was there to empty it? It wasn’t like he had time to think about it. I know that I could not even imagine what I would do if put in the same situation.

You don't?? How about -------- GET IT OUT OF THE GARBAGE! Tell the garbage men to call 911! See if, by any chance the baby is still ALIVE! What if he had been? WHAT IF?

Lauren needs alot of help. I can’t say any thing in her behalf. But her father is a good father. he dosen’t need to be tried for past mistakes.

He isn't being tried for PAST mistakes. He is being tried for THIS one.

Just like you dumb fuckers. Pull your heads out of your fucking ass. You all don’t have a clue just what its like to live in Clallam County, where just about everyone is a fucking felon!

Wow... really? Lemme guess.... cuz the COPS are corrupt --- not because ANYONE does ANYTHING wrong, right? Uh huh.... we believe ya. *rolls eyes*

Fuck you Ensor. Fuck you Winfield.

And Fuck you geena.

I know Ron Last and his daughter. He didn't know that she was pregnant. I saw her 2 days before she gave birth. you could not tell either.
Fuck all of you! You weren't there so you don't no what the fuck you are talking about.
The law enforcement in Port Angeles and in all of Clallam County, are corrupt. 60 minutes reported that Clallam Co. was the 3rd most corrupt county in the united states.
You can ask anybody that lives here. Police lie, plant evidence, entrap and set people up. They stalk people. I know this myself as 2 city police officers have made my life a living hell in the last year.
They have done the same to Ron. Sure he was in prison but he did his time and paid for the crimes. The cops were there to search for a dead baby. Not to try him for his past.
Just what would you do if you opened the top to your garbage dumpster and found a baby wrapped in a plastic grocery bag just when the garbage truck was there to empty it? It wasn't like he had time to think about it. I know that I could not even imagine what I would do if put in the same situation.
Lauren needs alot of help. I can't say any thing in her behalf. But her father is a good father. he dosen't need to be tried for past mistakes.
Port Angeles cops should stop harrassing, stalking, and slandering his name. Just like the Port Angeles Daily News should get the story straight before reporting a bunch of shit, most of which was speculation. Just like you dumb fuckers. Pull your heads out of your fucking ass. You all don't have a clue just what its like to live in Clallam County, where just about everyone is a fucking felon! You are guilty untill you prove yourself innocent and the Public Defenders are not out to help. I believe they get paid more if they can get you into the fucking system. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY! Fuck you Ensor. Fuck you Winfield.

I'm still laughing that a meth head who watched his dead grandson get toted to the local landfill in a garbage truck called all of you brainless pieces of shit.

drowning a baby in a toilet because she was raped

and you buying meth because you found your dead grandson in the garbage

What damn coping skills do you people have?

I call this bullshit too


Since both of you don't know there is a number called 911-when she is raped she needs to call , when you find dead babies you need to call.

It can’t be repeated enough…most states have a Safe Haven law. The law allows a parent to leave their unharmed newborn with an employee at any hospital or staffed fire station within 72 hours of birth without fear of prosecution.

Nuff said.

You know the real fucking tragedy Ron? The real fucking tragedy is that your daughter, the fruit of your rotten loins, took your newborn baby grandson in her hands, and drowned him. Put his tiny head in the toilet water until his tiny body could no longer gasp desperately for air, and then threw him away. Like he was something she could just forget about. Out of sight, out of mind, that's your darling daughter. THAT'S tragic.
There is NO excuse for that shit. She better be batshit insane bouncing her goddamn head off concrete walls and foaming at the mouth for me to have even an inkling of sympathy. Even then it'd be a small fucking inkling.

.I got up that morning to take the trash out because it was the day for our trash to be collected and the trash man was going to be there any time. From the time I found the baby to the time the truck was there was 15-20 seconds, 30 seconds tops. I wasn’t fully awake yet and found a nightmare come to life. I made a bad decision I can’t deny it. but damn it who gets out of bed to get the trash out before it’s to late and expects to find what I found and be expected to keep their thoughts, their world, or sanity in tact to respond appropriately with only seconds literally to work with?

Bullshit, can you say strung out. That experience would wake me right the fuck up.

As far as the meth, they $20-$30 worth that I had gotten as an attempt to try to deal with what had happened to my family. Say what you want. It was another mistake, but try to put yourself in my shoes and honestly try to think how well you would fare under the same circumstances. .

again bullshit. only a methhead would buy meth in this situation.
Anyone else would've boughten beer or pot.

That whole post was candy coated BULLSHIT.

YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER HAD OPTIONS AND YOU BOTH FAILED YOUR GRANDCHILD....THAT WILL HAUNT YOU FOREVER! There are a number of things you both could have done....and you chose none of them. If you really loved your grandchild then you would hold you irresponsible daughter accountable for what she has done! But you dont.... Instead you chose to drown your problems with a drug addiction. Like thats really going to help...news flash ....when the high goes away THE PROBLEMS ARE STILL THERE.... WEAK PEOPLE DROWN AWAY THEIR PAIN..THE STRONG CHOOSE TO TACKLE THE ISSUES. This says a lot about you.

If your daughter really was raped ...then Im very sorry for her experience... but guess what Mister...she's not alone. There are women every day that are raped. Its very very unfortunate...and trust me im no hypocrite....rather a victim myself. The fact is....she had options. She should have told someone...anyone... they could have told her that she had the option to abort, to carry the baby, give birth and put it up for adoption...What she did to that child is no different then what the monster of a man did to her! There is help out there for rape victims and she deserved the help. She just needed to go get the help and chose not to. Im sorry Sir...but at 16 she should know right from wrong.... what she did was wrong and you should not condone it! She deserves to be held responsible for what she did. Afteall, you cant carry a child for 9 months and not know that you are pregnant...she knew she was... and chose to not do anything about it!

And I will always regret standing there in shock as my grandson was driven away in a trash truck.

That one sentence said it all. Your grandson was driven away in the back of a garbage truck. You know, like garbage. While you watched. As I read that, I can hear my own grandson stirring in his sleep....alive, healthy, and very much loved. And you call me ignorant? No...I don't think so.

Did you know your daughter was pregnant? Did you seek help for your own child? Prenatal care? Counseling for the rape? Anything?

Justifying meth use as a way to 'deal with your problems' is bullshit.

As far as Lauryn is concerned...she was 16 at the time. Plenty old enough to know right from wrong. Why did she kill the baby? Why not own up to the pregnancy and the birth and give the child to a deserving family?

to all you brainless pieces of SHIT that think you have the slightest clue about the events concerning my daughter and I. For one I didn't find my grandson later in the day the same day he was born, it was two days after the fact. I got up that morning to take the trash out because it was the day for our trash to be collected and the trash man was going to be there any time. From the time I found the baby to the time the truck was there was 15-20 seconds, 30 seconds tops. I wasn't fully awake yet and found a nightmare come to life. I made a bad decision I can't deny it. but damn it who gets out of bed to get the trash out before it's to late and expects to find what I found and be expected to keep their thoughts, their world, or sanity in tact to respond appropriately with only seconds literally to work with? Call me what you want, I would love to see all you people with so much to say face the same circumstances and see how well you fare! The thought of being a grandfather would have been unexpected but embraced whole-heartedly. I love not only my children, but all children as anyone who knows me would tell you. I know more than one single mother , and they are all testifying on my behalf to the fact that I have cared for their children in the past and they wouldn't hesitate to do so to this day. As for the young lady you all want to crucify GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT ! My daughter was raped by a friend of her mothers in Colorado. FUCKING RAPED BY A GUY THAT SHE TOLD ME FOR FOUR YEARS WAS SO COOL THAT SHE COULDN'T WAIT FOR ME TO MEET HIM. SHE TOLD ME ALL THE TIME THAT SHE KNEW I WOULD LIKE HIM AND THAT WE BOTH LIKED HOT RODS. SHE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS CHILD RAPIST ALL THE TIME. HE WAS SOMEONE THAT SHE TRUSTED AND LIKED FOR A FEW YEARS AND ONE NIGHT HE OFFERS TO GIVE HER A RIDE TO THE STORE FOR HER MOTHER AND THE BASTARD RAPED HER IN THE CAR. WHEN HE WAS DONE HE TOLD HER IF SHE SAID ANYTHING HE WOULD KILL HER , HER MOTHER. AND HER SISTER. the son-of-a-bitch is being held for not only the rape of my daughter, but the rape of a six year old, as well as the violent rape of another young woman. I will never understand how what happened happened, and I will always wish I could have had a life with my grandson. And I will always regret standing there in shock as my grandson was driven away in a trash truck. I am very grateful to all the people that worked to find my grandson Thomas and allowed me to give him a proper burial and apologize to him for the events that took place. I also was able to tell him that I wish we could have met because we would have had a lot of fun together. I can only pray for my daughter and hope that some day I can begin to understand what any of us, from Thomas, to my son Isiah who has been taken from every person and thing he has ever known and has done nothing wrong, to myself and my daughter Lauryn, did to deserve this horror in our lives. As for the room mate who talked of seeing all the blood. THAT COCK SUCKER TOLD ME DURING A RECORDED PHONE I MADE TO MY HOME FROM JAIL THAT HE KNEW WHAT HAPPENED, CLEANED UP THE MESS AND HID IT FROM ME LIKE HE WAS PROUD AND HAD DONE SOMETHING GOOD AND WHEN I HAD DETECTIVES LISTEN TO THE CALL THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T CHARGE HIM AS MUCH AS THEY WANTED TO BECAUSE HE NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT A BABY. HE OPENLY ADMITTED TO KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED AND DO WHAT HE COULD TO CONCEAL EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED AND HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH ANYTHING ! As far as the meth, they $20-$30 worth that I had gotten as an attempt to try to deal with what had happened to my family. Say what you want. It was another mistake, but try to put yourself in my shoes and honestly try to think how well you would fare under the same circumstances. I can only hope none of you have to live through what I have. Judge all you want. You can't truly say because you weren't there. until you're in my shoes faced with the nightmare I had to face KEEP YOUR NO-GOOD. IGNORANT MOUTHS FUCKING SHUT AND TRY TO FIND SOME COMPASSION FOR A YOUNG GIRL WHO WAS RAPED BY SOMEONE SHE TRUSTED AND THOUGHT OF AS A FRIEND. THERE IS NOTHING BUT TRAGEDY FROM START TO FINISH IN THIS STORY. YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT.

I tend to agree that she was trying to do what she thought was right. It’s too bad that it appears so many of these girls don’t know the way the law works or about the law period. I think that leaving your child ALIVE somewhere they will be found(hopefully in time) shows that she was atleast hoping someone would do for the baby what she couldn’t.

Yea... so she didnt want the baby. And maybe she didnt know the law. But dont you agree that its common sense to allow the baby to live? That anyone mentally sound would leave the baby somewhere ALIVE where they atleast had a hope for survival??

Idk I have a hard time giving her any credit what-so-ever. The most desperate of desperate situations still dont justify murdering a newborn (or anyone for that matter) and disposing of the body via public garbage disposal. I think she is ignorant. She obviously knew she was pregnant. And tho my conservative side disagrees with abortions, if she did not want the child and knew she could not take care of it, she should have followed through with that option. She had options... she was simply being nieve, selfish, and is apparently twisted. I understand being scared and acting quickly ....but I cant imagine being sick enough to drown a newborn...I think its nausiating.

LMAO. Yeah, every city outside of Seattle, Tacoma and Spokane should just be named “BFE”, because that’s just about how well known they are.

It's ironic, because I was born in Portland and lived as a child in Tacoma. I think I know about every little town between Portland and Seattle (and a few on the way to B.C.) but I'm totally clueless about everywhere else. Well, I think I once went to the Puyallup fair.

Eastern WA is really BFE!

The incubator's name is Lauryn Last. She will be charged as an adult.

Good lookin' out, SJ.

I didn’t know there really was a Port Angeles. I seriously thought the author of Twilight made it up. Is there really a town called “Forks” too?

LMAO. Yeah, every city outside of Seattle, Tacoma and Spokane should just be named "BFE", because that's just about how well known they are. :P

Stunning country out that way, though - It's temperate rainforest in that general area, as both Forks and Port Angeles border Olympic National Park. Big, beautiful ferns and trees nearly the size of redwoods. When the fog hovers near the ground, it's absolutely magical, like a scene you'd see in Lord of the Rings or something.

I didn’t know there really was a Port Angeles. I seriously thought the author of Twilight made it up. Is there really a town called “Forks” too?

Yes, there is really a Forks, Washington.

In late 2008 someone left a baby outside of a church (in pretty crap weather conditions) b/c she didn’t KNOW what was a safe haven and what wasn’t.

I saw she just had a court date while I was watching the news, recently. I kind of hope they’re not too hard on her. She tried to do the “right thing” under the circumstances.

I tend to agree that she was trying to do what she thought was right. It's too bad that it appears so many of these girls don't know the way the law works or about the law period. I think that leaving your child ALIVE somewhere they will be found(hopefully in time) shows that she was atleast hoping someone would do for the baby what she couldn't.

So basically what i gather out of this ....Grandpa is a low life fuck up and Mom is an uneducated, sleezy, cum guzzeling gutter tramp. Whats wrong cunt...cant take a little responsibility? She should be thanking her lucky stars that she doesnt have to deal with us... good lord! Mmmm....the things I would love to do to her given the opportunity.

Ya know, there are women in this world that would love nothing more than to have children but cant due to health issues, inability to conceive, relationship status etc. Then there are people that do things like this... its so not fair. But she isnt a "mom"...she never will be. "Mom" is a word that comes with respect, love, and honor. Bitch you deserve nothing of the sort. I hope she rots in hell for what she has done.

Grandpa, some people just never learn. He too, will always be nothing to this world. There is dog shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe that is more important to this world than you. The shit was once something useful. It was Ol'roy food that helped my dog grow into something cute and strong. You created a monster, a bitch, a waste of oxygen, and a weak and pathetic poor excuse for a human. You live a sad sad life. If I were you, I would probably just do myself in. But make things interesting. You should take your daughter with you... you can rot in hell side by side. Afterall, a good parent stands by their child right?

How sad.
I pray that both the daughter and father will get put away for a long time.

If her "Dad" isn't going to make her be accountable, who will?! Great example he sets...and he can be the perfect role model while they both sit in jail! Idiot.

I didn't know there really was a Port Angeles. I seriously thought the author of Twilight made it up. Is there really a town called "Forks" too?

I want to give BIG kudo’s to all the people who dug threw 60 tons of trash to find the baby. Even though it was dead it still deserved to have a proper burial of some kind and at least a name.

I agree with you 100%,not alot would like to have that job.He does deserve a proper burial and respect,,

I want to give BIG kudo's to all the people who dug threw 60 tons of trash to find the baby. Even though it was dead it still deserved to have a proper burial of some kind and at least a name.

I read the roommates saw a bunch of blood in the house so Daddys story is still a bit "off" to me , I still think he is trying to cover his ass with that lame ass excuse, who the hell opens up trash bags in the dumpster?? I am pretty sure he put it in there not the daughter.

This breaks my heart. Drowning is a bad way to go and although this child is new to the world, I can't help but to think of how frightened baby boy was being plunged into cold toilet water. 16 or not, give me 5 minutes with this chick. 5

after she is legally dealt with, Sterilize her…

Ditto

According to a court affidavit filed Monday, the teen ‘put her baby’s face down into a toilet and allowed it to drown for several minutes until it died. Then she threw her son into the trash can outside in a plastic garbage bag.’ Last discovered the body in the trash later that day. His daughter told him that she had given birth in the home then threw the baby in the trash. Police say he left the body in the garbage and let city trash collectors come pick up the can without telling anybody what he’d found.

Isnt there a 3 strikes law over there??Or is that only in some states??Im not sure Im in Canada,but if theres one there wont that take him off the streets for good then ??And she needs to be locked away and steralized for good.

I saw she just had a court date while I was watching the news, recently. I kind of hope they’re not too hard on her. She tried to do the “right thing” under the circumstances.

I saw a update to that the other night the baby is living with paternal grandmother while her daddys in Iraq.He was shocked to find out there was a baby out there that was his,he hadnt been told she was pregnant.They allowed him to delay a few weeks so he could get legal custody in order then his mom has her while hes away

Were your sister and random girl suggesting that these girls should get off scot free?

They thought they should get "help," maybe spend some time in an institution, and then be released. While I'm sure that in a few of these cases the young woman was mentally disturbed, I feel that a lot of them are simply selfish, and don't want to deal with the child, the headache of finding an adoptive family, and/or the disruption to their own lives.
I'm going to mention this to my sister later, and see how she feels about it now (sober). I wish I could get ahold of the girl in Port Angeles, and see what she says about this story. They were just SO adament that I was too hard on these poor girls (!), but I feel there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with anyone who can kill their own newborn child. I felt REALLY confused trying to defend that position.

I saw she just had a court date while I was watching the news, recently. I kind of hope they’re not too hard on her. She tried to do the “right thing” under the circumstances.

I hope so too. I'm sure she didn't know any better, and in old stories, unwanted babies are left at the church. At least she recognized she was unable to care for her child.

three things, first is, my daughter is in jr high, they have safe haven flyers in the bathrooms of her school, she said a teacher puts them there... I don't care who does it, it's a great idea !!!!

second, when I was growing up, my mother would threaten my life if I ever had a baby out of wedlock. Lord knows I thought if I did, she might beat me to death. (back then parents could beat kids) I was a great one for "what if's" so I thought about it as a teen and I would have rather been beat to death then kill a baby. Anyway, my sister did it and she didn't get beat to death ;)

This girl is sick. as for Dad, there is no punishment on this earth worse than seeing a dead baby in the trash, he should have called. And while he was waiting for the police, after wrapping the poor baby up, he could have gotten rid of the drugs and whatever he was not supposed to have.

In late 2008 someone left a baby outside of a church (in pretty crap weather conditions) b/c she didn’t KNOW what was a safe haven and what wasn’t.

I saw she just had a court date while I was watching the news, recently. I kind of hope they're not too hard on her. She tried to do the "right thing" under the circumstances.

I've said this before, but again how can you carry a child for 9 months and not feel love for he/she before they are even born? It should come natrual. Then to do something as disguesting as this. Some people have some serious issues and I hope she is not dealth with lightly for the simple fact of the way she murdered her baby. When are these asshats going to realize that a baby is a miracle!

after she is legally dealt with, Sterilize her…

Couldn't agree more. Another one to file under "Shouldn't be allowed to breed". RIP little baby. Sorry you weren't born to more deserving people.

i just wanted to comment on the safe haven law.
i honestly did not know until just a few moments ago that the state that i live in has one.
i knew what the law WAS, but i was unaware that it was in effect in my state.
there should really be more publicity about this law, but even if there was... i think mothers would still abandon and/or kill their babies.
this is so sad.
i am a young, single mother and i never once thought about doing anything like this to my son. i know that people say that these women have some kind of mental defect, but SERIOUSLY, i mean what kind of person murders their own NEWBORN CHILD!?!
i really hate the stories about women who claim that they didn't even KNOW that they were pregnant. HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT? Even if I had no idea what pregnancy was while I was pregnant, I would have assumed that there was an alien growing in my stomach and taken myself to the hospital!
I mean, you feel that child move constantly for the better part of your pregnancy! How do you just chalk that up to indigestion? And then, when it's born, MURDER IT AND THROW IT AWAY!
Ugh. Sick, stupid, SELFISH bitches!
I want to say so much here, but I am so furious. I hope that teenaged idiot and her idiot father suffer miserably, in every way possible, for the rest of their lives!
**

I ws on a road trip with my sister last May, when we got into a debate in a random bar with a random girl, about teenaged baby-killers. They both said that these girls have mental issues, or are terrified of their religious parents, so we shouldn’t really hold them responsible. I said absolutely not, no matter how scared you are of your parents or social condemnation, there is NO excuse for murdering your newborn baby (duh!), and there should definitely be penalties for these evil, selfish girls. The arguement got quite heated, as they both attacked me on this, with the local girl (who we’d been friendly with all night) even getting in my face, but I refused to back down. Some things are just evil, and killing your own newborn is, IMHO, DEFINITELY one of those things. (emphasis added)

Were your sister and random girl suggesting that these girls should get off scot free?