Leslie Wilfred Didn’t Fake the Abuse
November 28, 2008 by Lizard
Thomasville, GA – There’s some people, you meet ‘em or hear about ‘em and find yourself thinking, “He’s a little off” or “She’sShe reviews
just not right.” I’m guessing Leslie Wilfred is one of those. It’s not just the actual funeral for the made-up stillborn twins–it’s also the wooden box she used to restrain her 10-year-old son.
A few months ago, Leslie Wilfred announced to her family that she was pregnant–with twins, even. However, right around what would’ve been her 22nd week, she told everyone she’d delivered stillborn babies at a local hospital. As you can imagine, folks around her were horrified, and members of her church reached out to the Wilfred family. On November 13th, a funeral service was held at the Rose City Pentecostal Church for the deceased infants, complete with sonogram images.
It was the sonogram images that set off someone’s hinky meter. Say I’m an anorexic blonde with a fishbelly complexion and I want to get into the bar even though I’m not quite old enough. Well, flashing an ID with a pic of Queen Latifah isn’t going to get me through the door. Similarly, if you’re going to hold a service for infants stillborn at 22 weeks, you’re going to want to avoid providing sonograms of full-term babies for everyone to see.
The end result was that someone expressed some concern about these so-called dead babies, and so investigators showed up at the home Leslie shares with her husband Christopher and five children. They found no evidence of the infants in question, but they did find evidence of child abuse.
In the bottom of a closet was a hand-crafted wooden box screwed to the floor, and inside the box was a pillow, a blanket, and scribbled profanities. Authorities believe the box was used to discipline Leslie Wilfred’s 10-year-old son (they also believe the boy is the author of the scribbles). Now, you tell me, who in their right fucking mind puts a boy that age into a box that’s only 2 feet wide and 2 feet long? Supposedly the child has “some issues,” but unless they include possession by the devil and the ability to kill with his mind, I can’t imagine any scenario for which time jammed in a wooden box in a fetal position seems likely to lead to improvements in the situation.
The long and short of it is that both Leslie and Christopher Wilfred were arrested on cruelty to children charges. Christopher’s charges relate solely to the wooden box; he’s been released on bond. Leslie’s charges are due to both the box and the children’s mental suffering over the faked babies. She was denied bond and is still in jail.
As for the people in the church, they’ve been more than gracious despite being fooled–two of the children are with the church pastor and his wife; two others are with another church family.
So Jaded and Tazzz aren’t faking it over in the forums.
11:04 am on November 28th, 2008
Damn… I knew someone like that! (the fake pregnancy part) After my daughter had her twins, suddenly this woman was pregnant with twins — then, it was triplets! Of course, she must have “miscarried” them at some point. All I know is a few weeks later, she was telling me she had cancer and had to have a hysterectomy (which she had 2 years later) No mention of the triplets. Some people you just don’t know what to believe.
As for the box – holy shit! What kind of demented fuckers are they? That’s straight outta hell! At 10, he must’ve been getting some hefty threats not to tell anyone! Poor kid! Man, that’s a lotta therapy there.
She belongs in a psych ward and the hubby belongs in hell.
3:04 pm on November 28th, 2008
When I was pregnant with my last child, a co-worker would tell me each month that she was pregant. Every month she felt morning sickness symptoms and cravings…well she gave birth about 2 years after the birth of my son…maybe she was part elephant! I find that weird and kind of spooky. I felt that any minute the loon would realize that she wasn’t pregnant and would come after me for my infant…
My question about this story is this. Why would she want to fake being pregant when she clearly couldn’t handle the ones she already had? She is another church loon like Andrea Yates! Poor kids, not only abused, but also tormented thinking their baby siblings having died!
***disgusted***
The father, should be horse whipped, and then placed in a box. Mom needs some shock therapy!!!
3:21 pm on November 28th, 2008
ROTFL! This is the greatest simili ever posted.
3:24 pm on November 28th, 2008
I have to wonder which came first for the 10 yr-old: the “issues,” or the wooden box? Because being locked up in a wooden box could certainly cause (and most definitely exacerbate) some “issues.”
How old is this woman? She looks like a kid–and she’s already cranked out 5? My guess is that her holy roller church puts a lot of emphasis on motherhood being the sole reason for a woman’s existence, and that she just loves the attention she got when pregnant (and the attention and sympathy she got from the fake miscarriage). Kudos to the church members for stepping up to take her children in, though–too often, everyone wants to tell women that their greatest glory is to crank out kids, but nobody wants to help her cope once they’re there.
Good thing someone decided to look into the fake pregnancy before she progressed to Munchausening her kids for attention.
7:12 pm on November 28th, 2008
This is one of the best write ups I’ve seen yet….
LMAO @ Hinky Meter !
7:39 pm on November 28th, 2008
LUV the pic of mom. Looks like a momento Mori (Pic of dead person after death). Maybe 5 kids are already too many and she just needed help. Certainly someone is going to offer help to a woman with 5 kids who is expecting twins. Of course, then, one has to fake a miscarriage. Then more help and sympathy is offered.
She’s a nut. Put her in a nice, cushy psych ward for awhile. Then get her some help at home. I don’t know what to think of her spouse. I mean, he MUST have known that she was faking.
And, did they NOT have to use any type of funeral home? Casket provided by whom?
Just TOO nutty
11:47 pm on November 28th, 2008
What the Hell!Sick Bitch,you can not help but wonder about what would happen next.After all the attention from the death of the fake baby’s was gone?Would her children fall suddenly ill and die?My guess is yeah you bet cha.So I say thank you fake dead baby’s for fake dieing because of you real live children aren’t being abused by real fake parents.
8:40 am on November 29th, 2008
This happened in my home town. I still can’t believe it. Thomasville is sort of small. Things like this never happen here. It’s just a little odd that I become a member of this site and 2 weeks later a story from my little town is posted. Ugh… oh well, I hope these assholes get what they deserve. I have heard a lot of people in Thomasville saying it is a sad story. I have heard just as many laughing about it…*sigh* People can be so disgusting.
3:30 pm on November 29th, 2008
7:16 pm on November 30th, 2008
This kinda strikes home with me as my gf and I lost our baby a few weeks ago at 20 weeks and it devastated us. So to imagine this “person” faking losing two is just inconceivable!
Top it off with the worse act of locking a 10yr old child in a box?! Lock both these parents up and sterilize them before they ever get out of jail.
11:33 am on December 1st, 2008
OK…so she faked a twin pregnancy/death…and then mistreated the kids she REALLY had, the alive real ones?! What the hell?!
LMAO @ hinky meter & Queen Latifah’s ID…
This is definitely one of those people where you say something ain’t right about her…nutty, fruitcake, weirdo, attention seeker, psycho bitch!
1:51 pm on December 2nd, 2008
I would like to say a few words about this family. I have live in their facinity for six or seven years now. The 10 year old boy is not her son, but his from a previous marriage. His real mother left him from a very young age. He showed a lot of behavioral problems from a very young age. Leslie came into his life later on. She had four from a previous marriage. His mother has had nothing to do with him since he broke a bunch of glass on her kitchen floor, wet the floor, then made her run in there after him. She sustained minor cuts on her hands, feet, and legs. He was been admitted to RYDC and has been admitted to mental institutions at least eight times from the time he turned eight. He has been diagnosied with schizophrenia and bipolar. He is taking adult dosage of his medication. They released even though he told them that people in his head were telling him to kill people. He hallucinated frequently and destroyed other people’s property. This boy has been to court several times already. He has been caught shop lifting several times. He has ran away several times. He also vandilized the juvinile court, destroyed a case workers office, has urinated and deficated on officers and children that have done nothing to him. He has a sick obsession with sharp objects. The police have arrested him twice for beating her and trying to kill members of his own family. He has also been in trouble for breaking his grandfathers finger to the point that it had to be amputated.
I myself have witnessed and heard from family members who have been there to help. The state of Georgia has done nothing for this family. The juvnile court judge deemed him a juvnile deliquent at the age of NINE!! The judge himself has witnessed his behavior. He has cursed and faught the police in the court room. He has litterally drove her to insanity. The judge working this case told the parents by all means use corpural punishment on him, that’s what he needs. It’s sad when you can’t even sleep in your own house wondering if you will wake up the next morning.
The news and the newspaper forgot to put all that information in. This little boy would make a grown man cry if he had to take care of him for a full 24 hours. Believe men when i say this little boy is demonic!! RYDC released him because he was to small and fragile but I saw two law officers struggle to hold him down after he beat Leslie with a tire iron at a local school parking lot, right after they were letting people out for the day. Almost half the school witnessed it. Two teachers even chased him down while waiting for the school resource officer.
I know this doesn’t excuse her faking everything, but don’t you think she done it so they would deem him a threat to her and her family. Truly he was already a treat, but they don’t see that. And as for the kids, which are wonderful do not deserve any of this, but they also didn’t deserve being pissed on, spit at, cussed at, and being chased with sharp objects either. The box was obviously a means of containing him so they could sleep to regain energy for another crazed filled day.
It’s a fucked up situtation but i feel that everyone needs to know the facts. I hope the juvnile judge and other people who have witnessed his actions come forward for this family. As i said it doesn’t excuse her behavior, but someone should have stepped in before he got to this point.
7:35 pm on December 2nd, 2008
THIS IS FOR YELLOW SUBMARINE: Where in the hell did you get your information? Sounds like you have been talking to and believing Leslie. Leslie is sick and lieing is only one of the bad things she does. The reason the real mother is not in his life is the same reason that all of his mother’s side of the family’s not in his life. Ever since Leslie and Chris got together, the child has been alienated from us. The child’s real problems stem from Leslie. He was not like that till that bitch got hold of him. He has ADD which was controlable with meds and he did well on them before Leslie. That is when the child started going overboard. She has minipulated the childs mind and twisted him so badly that he is fighting to protect himself because he actually fears everyone. All of this is because of Leslie. Both Leslie and Chris should spend many years behind bars for what they have done to my grandson. They twisted this boy’s mind and who knows how many times and for how long that they have locked him in this tiny box. They are both child abusers. You can believe whatever you want but do not badmouth the mother unless you have the facts. I am the grandfather and I have known the child ever since birth. His problems were minor till Leslie got her hands on him. He is now undergoing therapy. His mental scars will always be there but it is hoped he will be able to cope with life one day. I hope and pray that Leslie and Chris both burn in hell for what they have done. Look up munchausen by proxy mother and you have a description of Leslie. She is sick.
8:07 pm on December 2nd, 2008
They both had sons named Noah, I thought it was Leslie boy who was in the box, so its Christophers Noah who was in the box then. Also Yellow sub conviniantly forgot to mention about Leslie’ previous child abuse charges, so I find her story to be full of holes and B.S.
NOT TO MENTION it was a fucking 2′ x 2′ freaking box. So bullshit, there is absa-fucking no reason to treat any child like that. And any one who did would be a pile of dog crap for doing it. As far as what I read there was never any issues from Chris’s boy before he hooked up with Leslie.
8:13 pm on December 2nd, 2008
YellowSubmarine:
First – Sounds as if you’ve bought into Leslie’s bullshit. Bet half the shit you spouted on here came from HER mouth, not from actually seeing it.
Second – “Corporal punishment” does NOT include boxing your child up in a closet. That is called “child abuse” or “torture.” Corporal punishment is, in a nut shell, spanking. If this child is as horrible as you claim, no judge, cps worker or cop would just allow him back in that home with other kids without supervision. No doctor who cherishes their license would put a child on adult dosages of meds. Grandpa said he has ADD – and I believe him. Leslie just didn’t want to deal with her “stepson” so she made up stories and locked him in a fucking box! I hope she never sees the light of day, or her other kids, again.
You are doing a horrible disservice to this family coming on here and spouting all your garbage. Hear me clearly – LESLIE IS A WHACKO PIECE OF SHIT. This child did NOT make her that way. Go somewhere else and make all your bullshit excuses for her.
8:20 pm on December 2nd, 2008
Yellow Submarine: I cannot BELIEVE you just attempted to justify placing a ten year old boy into a 2′x2′ BOX due to, according to your illustration, diagnosed mental issues, as though that’s somehow his fault. Truly. I read it a second time to be sure that’s what you were actually spewing. “Believe men when i say this little boy is demonic!!” Do us a favor and go crawl back under the rock you emerged from, and take your bullshit superstition with you. Blaming victims is NOT not the business we’re in here at D’D.
HLMercer – I’m terribly sorry to hear about the nightmare this woman put your family through. I assume you are the boy’s biological maternal grandfather? I’m glad to hear your grandson is getting the help he undoubtedly needs after the hell he’s lived through, and I hope you have been or will be able to establish more regular communication with him. Thank you for coming by and taking the time to set the record straight.
8:54 pm on December 2nd, 2008
Yellow Submarine…I think water is leaking into your damn submarine!
How can you come on here and try to justify this crazy bitch placing a CHILD, in a 2′x 2′box?? Yes, you loon a CHILD! Mental illness is NOT cured by abuse…If you don’t believe me then come over my house so that I can cure your insanity by beating the shit out of you! Oh and bring Ding Dong with you too!
I read your post over and over…and not once do you fault this dumb ass for any of the abuse. On the other hand you are trying to make this child out to be the Devil’s Spawn. You disgust me and I hope someone puts you in a 2′ x 2′ box and see if you come out with some creative reasons why you deserved it! You too are a fruit loop!
Get off this site with your bullshit.
8:56 pm on December 2nd, 2008
hlmercer…I am sorry your family and this poor child has had to endure this pain. My thoughts and prayers are with you all.
9:33 pm on December 2nd, 2008
YELLOW SUBMARINE: Damn, you go off believing everything you hear….damn your as stupid and crazy as that bitch is that you are trying to defend. Just remember there are always 2 sides to every story. It was not until the last year or so that Noah all of a sudden hated my family, which is coincidental to when leslie and Chris were preparing to get married. I can remember september a year ago, noah was just as loving as he could be to my family. We had a birthday party for his younger sister, he was there and we all had a great time. Then out of no where, the bitch no longer allowed anyone in our family not even his mother to talk to him or see him at all. I was lucky one day. I was picking my daughter up from school and here was this little boy just waving and smiling at me….i had never met leslie until this time…I knew it was noah so i walked over and sat down and starting talking to him….she walked over to me like she was about to whoop my ass even after she found out who I was….She made it a point to alienate my entire family from this once great and loving child. He will never be the same after what he has been through, but I know he will once again, after recieving the help he needs from what these lunatics did to him, love my family again and want to be around us. You are one crazy crazy woman for believing all she has ever told you. I hope that Chris and Leslie both rot in jail for what they have done….
9:59 pm on December 2nd, 2008
While I applaud your wish for BOTH Leslie & Chris to burn in hell, gotta say that most of your outrage is directed @ your DIL (?) Leslie. Are you Chris’s father? Ummm, was he bewitched by this sultry seductress, or what?
This site is an equal opportunity bash-fests for ALL abusers: male/female . . . those that stuff the kids in the lockbox and those that stand idly by as the lid shuts . . . step monsters AND negligent bio-daddys, ya know?
This chick LOOKS b-a-n-a-n-a-s, even if we didn’t know about twin-psyche & lockbox games. One glance @ the pic is all ya need.
So wassup with Chris? He thought coffin-like storage was okie dokie for his son, why again?
10:54 pm on December 2nd, 2008
No he is not Chris’s father. HLMercer is Noahs mothers father. I am one of his other daughters. As for what Chris thought, hell he let that insane bitch brainwash his ass too. He is just a sissy little punk that needs to be in a coffin like box with his psycho wife.
10:56 pm on December 2nd, 2008
I agree 100% theres nothing in the world to justify locking any child or anyone in a 2×2 box!!Corporal punishment isnt caging a child!!It is to spank, disciplining isnt when you feel like tossing a little boy into a closet let alone a 2×2 box in that closet.And all this crap they are sick didnt know what they were doing”BULLSHIT”!!!!!. They knew enough to hide what they knew was illegal.The faking pregnancies DO NOT use that excuse.How many women have been murdered in the last few yrs by freaks of nature pretending to be pregnant all the way through to 9 months then they murder and cut the baby out of a innocent woman living a normal, crime free life,looking forward to being a mom!!~So that is fucking scary right there,what was her next pregnancy gonna be if she hadnt been caught faking this one.I would bet my home that wouldve been her next plan. And I also dont believe a judge would encourage a parent to hit their child.!!!!Mercer I am happy to hear hes getting treatment,if you and your family wish to have contact again or even go for custody ask the courts to assign a “CHILDS ADVOCATE” that way the only person dealing with the child and his wishs is the one the judge listens to.They are the golden weapon in child custody cases and judges believe only the advocate,,Good Luck with it all and hopefully some real family loving will work wonders.Side note alienation is the number one thing they thrive on just like abusive husbands/boyfriends alienate the woman from her family so no one sees whats really happening Leslie didnt want him telling you or showing you what was happening,,
11:24 pm on December 2nd, 2008
Auddie, I am not Chris’s father. I am the father of the child’s real mom. My hatred toward Leslie is because she is the one that has actually dealt out the abuse on my grandson. She dealt the abuse and spread all the lies to anyone who would listen. Chris, on the other hand, knew about the abuse but was so whooped that he allowed it to take place. He could have stopped it, but he chose not to. This makes him just as guilty as Leslie and he should be dealt with legally, just as harshly as Leslie should be. Chris and his son were inseperable until Leslie came along. It wasn’t long before my grandson’s life started making a downward spiral. The more grip Leslie got, the worse my grandsons life got. She made him the way he is. I just hope the doctors can make him somewhat the way he was before Leslie. People brag on how sweet the other kids are, that is because they did not have to endure the abuse my grandson did. My grandson was abused and god only knows the type of abuse he had to endure at the hands of this bitch. Again, I hope they both burn in hell.
12:15 am on December 3rd, 2008
Brigitte (Step Grandmother)
To: Yellowsubmarine
If I did not know better I would almost say that Leslie got a hold of a PC and wrote the article herself. There is so much information in the article that it had to come from her or a family member.
I have known the child since I married his grandfather 7 years ago, and the only problem the child had was that he had to much energy.
He was a perfectly normal child, maybe a little hyper but that was all.
When his mother remarried he was doing fine with his stepfather;
When Chris got envolved with Leslie and moved her and her 4 children in his home, things started to change. I am sure he missed the closeness
that he had with his parents. I comented to my husband that things would change for the worse, especially when they got married.
That gave her more legal right to make major desicions over the child.
Even the maternal grandmother made negative comments about the way she treated the child. Since they all went to the same church she had to see the difference in the child, especially since she kept him a lot bevor Leslie came in to her son’s life.
Since there where some problems in School she started home schooling him herself. But instead of joining the homeschool association to learnon more how to and get some help but ms. perfect knew every thing. In the end the child faild his grade and she claimed thay had to pay $ 1000.00 because he failed. I went and talked to several homeschool parents and they said that this was not true; they had to pay because they did not send enough homework in every month. I assume she is still schooing him at home, but nobody knows. That reminds me about the comment about him hitting her in the back with a tire iron. Maybe some one can explain where a child that is just leaving school gets his hands on a tire iron.
When I called her house one day she informed me that the only contact he has was with her. I told her it sounded like she was trying to isolate him from any one on his mothers side of the family. She claims that he did not want to see any one and she was not going to make him.
When I asked her why she was the only one always in the picture and not his father, she told me he did not wanted to talk to me and for me not to call there any more. On his birthday this summer I bought a couple of gifts for the child and had my husband drop them of at Chris’s parents house. After my earlier phonecall Leslie stated that the grandmother told her that I needed to leave things alone. Since I always had a good relationship with her her and would ocational stop by and visit with the child and bring him a few clothes for school.
Also on a day that I did not feel good he had hi grandma by a Teddybear and they droped it of at mey door. He has been sitting in the corner of my bed since all this started. Maybe when he comes home I can give him back to make him feel better.
Her mother passed away, and after every thing was settled she went and bought a brand new Vehicle; thinks could not have been that bad.
I could not believe she had made that coment and went by her house to ask her face to face. She first ignored me and then told me I should stay out of the situation. I don;t know if she really meant it or if she was scared that if she did not follow Leslies rules, she would not get to see him very much any more. She put her on a pedistal like she could do no wrong. I wonder how she feels now ?????????????
As for her Son I think he was just a spineless person or he would have done some thing about the situation or got out of it all to gether.
I wrote him 2 E-mails offering to help and also one offering him information of some homes for problem children but there again he never responded. I think he is just a big wuss, but that does not excuse any of the situation in his houshold. If would have acted like a real man he would be more involved in his son’s situation, which to me makes him just as guilty as his wife. It makes me wonder what her children think of all the things that happende with the fake pregnacy and then having them stand there and sing a song.
She is not able to have anymore children in the first place, but it is a shame that she had 4 before she was fixed.
She always whined about the stress she was under but would not let any one help. I would have gladly pitched in; I am a grown woman that would have been able to keep an eye on him and control him if he got out of the way. Oh but no, she rather had her stepfather watch the child then give any one a chance. Just like the person that suposadly had to have his finger amputated from a break. I like to see some thing in writing on that story, and I mean the whole truth.
The same thing goes with the constant crying about not having money and how many bills they have because of the child. The father works for a large company and I am sure they had good insurance, plus with seven people in the family they would be able to get help.
But since no one got to see the papers on any of the issues and she had all the answers she made her own bed and Ihope she has to lie in it for a long time.
And another thing if you knew he was given adult amounts of medicine then you just as guilty of not reporting it. No licensed doctor would give a child that much medicine, especialy if it did not help.
There are thousand of medications on the market and the one he took must not have worked. As a nurse you should know that if the medication does not work in 1 to 2 weeks you have it changed.
She must have enjoyed seeing him in that condition or did not give him his medicine to keep him that way. That in itself is so sad since he had to pay for her ignornce and stupidity. The father must be like one of those professors smart enough to do a job, but with no common since.
Ignorance is no excuse and I hope he gets his share of punishment.
My love and heart is with my Grandchild and I hope to be able to see him soon, it has been 2 years.
I love you, your OMA
12:10 pm on December 3rd, 2008
oh my.. This is more common then i thought.. It seems it’s always twins.. A person who i thought was a good friend just did something similar.. She told everyone that she was preggo with twins – 6 months and made everyone feel the “babies” (i felt nothing – she has a fat belly, so she could have been pregnant – just not with twins) she started organizing baby showers and recieving gifts.. her husband was going along with all this… finally at “7 1/2 months” she actually went to the er to get an ultrasound.. no babies… as we knew all along! she is pre-menapause
She told me she “miscarried” them… and the doctors had to “tear the babies apart” to get them out of her via d & c- That’s why no funeral…
She is keeping the baby gifts that she recieved…. I think sooner or later she or her husband will be on DD – ugh.
I hope the little boy recovers from this and goes to the family member that can help him..
12:19 pm on December 3rd, 2008
For everyone in noah’s family. I’m not trying to justify what leslie and chris done. My kids and her kids were friends at one point in time and I have seen how crazy noah acted towards everybody. I haven’t been there to see him before, but i know it has escalated since it started. I only wish these kids the best care, love and support. I would never wish anything upon a child. I dont know all the facts but i have witnessed some of his behavior myself. As for the incident at the school, hell a lot of people saw it. As for the guy who had his finger broken by him told me himself. I’ve never met his other family, so no i don’t know the whole story. And no i don’t believe everything that leslie says, but i’m just telling you what i’ve seen myself. I’m not defending anyone. I fell sorry for all of the kids, especially Noah. He needed help very much way before now. I understand that kids do not express their emotions as well as we do. They cry out for help in a very different way. They should have gotten help when the behavior started and gotten to the root of the problem before it went to this. Yes, the law will take care of everything and I’m glad they finally stepped in.
AGAIN IM NOT DEFENDING LESLIE ONE BIT, NOR DO I BELEIVE ANYTHING THAT CAME FROM HER MOUTH. The child was a victim as well as hers children. If she is insane then she drove him to it while drving herself there. Her kids are very good, well mannered children, maybe because they had to fend for themselves. My children stopped seeing them once we moved away from Thomasville. I never said I was trying to justify the box. That is very cruel. How could anybody justify putting your kid in a box.
Again for noah’s family I hope he gets the help he needs and i hope he gets to come home soon to be with you. As for leslie’s and chris’s family i’m sorry she has done yall wrong and lied to all of you, maybe even played some of you. As for her kids I hope they find someone to take good care of them. I heard they were living with some friends. My prayers go out for all of the kids and their families.
12:54 pm on December 3rd, 2008
Bullshit. You’re just backpedaling now. Your first post clearly places the blame on the little boy. Remember, you called him “demonic” and all that?
1:17 pm on December 3rd, 2008
YellowSubmarine, you can use caps to your heart’s content, but the above statement, taken verbatim from your initial post, speaks for itself. You’ve got 5 paragraphs (although the first really ought to be two) in TEXT, for the whole world to see, demonizing that little boy and justifying Leslie’s abuse.
Perhaps someone should sweep your house for wooden boxes.
1:45 pm on December 3rd, 2008
Wow, Yellow Submarine you have just contradicted yourself…you say you didnt believe anything she said…if not, then why in the hell would you post the bullshit lies that you posted yesterday…if you DO NOT believe anything she told you why start shit, why not keep your mouth shut…I am with gitta52 on thinking that you are really leslie or someone in her family…you have waaaayyy too much information…Did you grow a conscience overnight to come on here and contradict everything you said yesterday….I guess sitting in a cell will do that to you, huh?….I can promise you that 99% of the bullshit you typed in your comment yesterday are a bunch of fucking lies…YOU are the one who needs to get your facts straight before commenting on anything in here…Today you say that “They should have gotten help when the behavior started and gotten to the root of the problem before it went to this”…I can tell you for a fact that Noah didn’t have this behavior problem until she screwed with his head. Noah was a very good child until the past year or so, which conveniently is around the same time she married his father…kind of odd don’t you think?…Noah is and will be getting the help he needs for quiet awhile…She has ruined his life…He is now in good hands and will be returned hopefully soon to his mother…Its going to be a long process, but it will happen…His mother and the rest of her family are going to have to be slowly introduced back into his life, since she has brainwashed Noah into hating everyone.
2:04 pm on December 3rd, 2008
How sad, Yellowsubmarine, you are truly an idiot. Calling a child demonic then stating that he was put in a box to gain sleep from the trouble he caused during the day. FUCKING BULLSHIT is what is coming out of your mouth. Yes, you did justify the fact that he was getting put in a box because the parents needed sleep. FUCK THAT!! I have gone to work on an hour of sleep and survived. You are a truly sick person if you believe that. You cannot take back the words you have said here as the damage you have caused had already been done.
I hope we never hear from you again because you are a vile bitch who could care less about the well being a child.
2:24 pm on December 3rd, 2008
…and you know what’s scary? She has children of her own. @_@
3:36 pm on December 3rd, 2008
Yellow Submarine do you recall this statement < Believe men when i say this little boy is demonic!! > Well you dumb ass, you wrote it. Now care to back tracking some more?
You did defend Leslie and condemned the little boy. You sick twat! You are just as pathetic as the slime you are defending. How do you muster the courage to come back on and deny what you left here yesterday? Either you are Leslie’s family member or just another fruit cake like we have seen on here lately. You are low, and to have come on here trying to win some sympathy for this piece of shit trash is almost laughable.
Go back to eating possum stew and leave us the hell alone. Nobody here wants to hear your useless gibberish. These people are more intelligent than that.
Now fuck off and die!
3:59 pm on December 3rd, 2008
mmmmm. opossum stew….anyone have a recipe…lol.
Christ, I’m hoping she doesn’t have a box. maybe someone should do a welfare check on her kiddos since she completely agrees with putting children in a box.
4:04 pm on December 3rd, 2008
Nicely put ECVMANZO…LOL
5:42 pm on December 3rd, 2008
Tx for explaining the connection, hlmercer – have I missed how your daughter lost custody? Also wondering about this babysitting step-father of Leslie’s . . . anyone know him? Leslie has that adult incest survivor look – hope Noah is being screened carefully for ALL forms of abuse – would explain a lot of the rage/behavior changes.
Wish I could be a fly on the cellblock wall as Chris describes what he’s in for . . . Think the grown up survivors of child abuse that fill our prisons will explain what the lockboxes of their childhood felt like?
9:02 am on December 4th, 2008
Yes, I’m sure he does (echoing Leemouse here). Claustrophobia, restraint, the feeling that you can’t get enough oxygen, and sensory deprivation…yeah, he has issues, and he’ll have them for life. We’ll be lucky if he doesn’t lock someone else in a box.
Irrelevant. Show me a child who does NOT have a “behavioral problem.” Hello, children may pee their pants wilfully, they may crap on the floor, they may smear food on the walls, they may bite the family dog.
No one “makes” anyone else do anything. She did whatever she did. Period. Just as no one “made” Leslie lock this child in a box.
Why is it that I doubt you on these things? Is it because the woman who “cared” for him is apparently a psychotic liar who will do anything to get attention? Of course, even if every single thing you say is true, it really doesn’t matter.
So you’re saying he drove her to lie about this pregnancy, too? Yeah, sure. And, by the way, if the judge said that, the judge is an idiot. And if you believe that using this box as a form of corporal punishment you are an idiot, and just deluded, too. You try to claim they had to lock him up so they would be safe, but the word PUNISHMENT suggests otherwise. Frankly, this may be a rought situation, but if this child has some serious special needs, then he has them. Get the right medication. Etc. The onus is on the responsible party, and that’s his adult caregivers.
Maybe they just think it’s irrelevant.
I’M SORRY, BUT THIS IS JUST STUPID. NO. I DON’T THINK THAT. I have no idea HOW you could think this. It’s so illogical it really calls into question everything (for me) that you’ve said.
For fuck’s sake. What a bunch of BULLSHIT. What does the box solve? I bet he was screaming in that box. And I bet it took a lot of truly abusive physical effort to smash him down inside it. THERE IS NO EXCUSE. Let’s see, they could have locked him in a windowless room. Or in a closet. Not that this would be acceptable. My point is that this box was used as a tool of abuse, so quit waffling.
HLMercer: I can believe it.
I hope so.
THAT’S what I thought of, right away.
HL, yes, Chris should be. But what about this whole fake pregnancy thing. Why did he go along with that?
Step-grandma: I can believe this, too.
Evil bitch.
11:36 am on December 5th, 2008
Her hubby may not have known the pregnancy was faked. Obviously she did that to get attention and sympathy. Just thank goodness that the pregnancy WAS fake. Otherwise, she would have had to kill a baby or two for real, because you know, there no sympathy getter like having a baby just die on you…
Has anyone heard any news on her stepson? How is the poor kid doing?
12:18 pm on December 5th, 2008
Unless she is more than a bit overweight and/or he is retarded, I don’t know how he could miss the fact that his wife was not 5 and a 1/2 months preggo–with twins, no less, each of whom would have been about 10 inches long by this point! But, then, we already know he is a retarded piece of shit who went along fine and dandy with a kid locked in a box in his closet. Stupid dipstick!
1:15 pm on December 5th, 2008
Sugarglider,
Yah, that was my point. He obviously is a moron and/or totally pussy-whipped, so if she said she was preggers, he probably said yes darling dearest, of course you are. Now, he may have pretty much known it was BS, but maybe not KNOWN, and certainly wasn’t about to say so, even if he did, and especially not now.
1:26 pm on December 5th, 2008
Yeah, I’d like to hear what that assklown has to say. I guess he will also pretend he didn’t know there was a boy getting locked into the closet-box each night… Is there a pic of this turdman somewhere?
1:37 pm on December 5th, 2008
Um, this is a little weird (saw this whilst trawling unsuccessfully for pics of the Man Who Had No Balls):
“She’s been charged with 5 counts of cruelty to children. It comes from the mental aspect, mentally abusing the children. She had talked to her children about having these babies, and really built it up,” says Captain John Richards with the Thomas County Sheriff’s Office. ”
I think there are more serious issues here, folks.
3:28 pm on December 5th, 2008
Yeah…The mental abuse charges are a little dubious, in my opinion. Maybe it’s because I don’t know the details, but it sounds like mom’s being charged for lying to her kids. Parents “really build up” lots of lies… Any mythical creature associated with a holiday, for example.
4:12 pm on December 5th, 2008
Rolf, good one Athena.
12:51 am on December 6th, 2008
Brigitte, Noah’s Stepmother
This is a little happy news to all of you out there that send caring messages about his abuse.
I talked to his case worker today, she told me that she could not tell me any thing until they checked me out. Don’t know by whom or for what, but I have nothing to hide.
Well I like for all of you to know that 15 minutes later the caseworker called me back and told me there was a little boy that wanted to talk to me. For the motor mouth that I can be, I almost did not find any words.
When I answerd the phone and he said ” hey Oma” I could have just melted away. He sounded very good compered to all he has been through.
He asked questions, answerd some of mine and he sounded so much like the Noah I rememberd. You can tell he was on some medication, but he was very allert and remebers our old times it was just a pure joy.
I have already fixed him a package that will be in the mail to him first thing in the morning. After talking to me, he asked where his Papa was and he talked to him for a little while. He also wanted to talk to his mother and as I found out later he did get to talk to her.
We don’t know yet where we going tomorrow but I know he will be back with us when the time is right.
Thank you every one for having him in your thoughts and prayer and please keep continue doing so.
A very happy and excited Grandmother, Brigitte
11:52 am on December 7th, 2008
God Bless the church and congregation for exposing these 2 monsters. First of all, so what if Chris is pussy whipped or convinced of her lie, and he’s such a pussy he does whatever she says, he still has to account for his actions he’s a parental adult. Let’s hope his parenting rights are gone for good ! OK so…….
Why isn’t he facing more charges ?
Didn’t he build the box ?
Didn’t he muscle the child into the box ?
Didn’t he ignore the sounds / cries while Noah was in the box ?
Didn’t he expose the other children to witness this box and abuse directed towards Noah ?
Didn’t he fail to report Leslie and the abuse ?
Didn’t he fail to remove the children from this abusive environment ?
If he believed the pregnancy story how come he never once told/bragged of the forthcoming twins ? I as I’m sure any father would’ve been happy my wife was expecting and announced it to the world. Not to mention I would be going to the doctor with her every chance , seems to me he had to of been in on the lie.
I just think he should have the same charges as her, they both built the story up , exposed the other children to abuse and tortured Noah to the point of him acting the only way he could in that house.
What in the world lets him walk ?
Both equally guilty (SICK!) and both should get a cell 2×2, and see how they like it !!! I pray that Thomas county DA is successful at putting these demons away for a long time(yeah yellowsubmarine,dipshit! That’s right, the parents are the fucking demons in this story) .
I’m so glad to hear the childs Grandparents are getting back into his life and that the children of this house have the chance to see what a loving and caring family can offer to the well being/development for the remaining of their childhood.
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