Joseph Rockwood Was Off His Meds

I’m just scared of the thought of that guy bending over with a pool cue. The crack must have been enormous.

Great writeup, Jaded! I’m so glad you weren’t blinded that night in the bar.

I’m just scared of the thought of that guy bending over with a pool cue. The crack must have been enormous.

Great writeup, Jaded! I’m so glad you weren’t blinded that night in the bar.

ewwwww…..fugly
Well, now he’ll end up on some nice cushy psych ward in prison on mandated meds.
May his sister RIP
She should have stayed away after the time she had to lock herself in the bathroom and dial 911. I know that she loved him but sometimes you have to save yourself.

ewwwww…..fugly
Well, now he’ll end up on some nice cushy psych ward in prison on mandated meds.
May his sister RIP
She should have stayed away after the time she had to lock herself in the bathroom and dial 911. I know that she loved him but sometimes you have to save yourself.

ewwwww…..fugly
Well, now he’ll end up on some nice cushy psych ward in prison on mandated meds.
May his sister RIP
She should have stayed away after the time she had to lock herself in the bathroom and dial 911. I know that she loved him but sometimes you have to save yourself.

Well, now he’ll end up on some nice cushy psych ward in prison on mandated meds.

You know what? As long as they KEEP him there, I’m ok with that.

This is not someone feigning an insanity defense after a crime. This man is certifiably bonkers, with a history of refusing treatment. He needs to be somewhere where treatment is mandatory and there’s no option for him to walk away.

But in my estimation, it should be a life sentence, just as he would have received in prison. My only concern is that they deem him “stable” after some period of time and let him go. He’s a murderer, regardless of his condition, and should be locked up.

Well, now he’ll end up on some nice cushy psych ward in prison on mandated meds.

You know what? As long as they KEEP him there, I’m ok with that.

This is not someone feigning an insanity defense after a crime. This man is certifiably bonkers, with a history of refusing treatment. He needs to be somewhere where treatment is mandatory and there’s no option for him to walk away.

But in my estimation, it should be a life sentence, just as he would have received in prison. My only concern is that they deem him “stable” after some period of time and let him go. He’s a murderer, regardless of his condition, and should be locked up.

But in my estimation, it should be a life sentence, just as he would have received in prison. My only concern is that they deem him “stable” after some period of time and let him go. He’s a murderer, regardless of his condition, and should be locked up.

I agree with that one. It’s very unlikely he will ever change. Really sad. I am really sorry to the family/friends, I couldn’t imagine.

But in my estimation, it should be a life sentence, just as he would have received in prison. My only concern is that they deem him “stable” after some period of time and let him go. He’s a murderer, regardless of his condition, and should be locked up.

I agree with that one. It’s very unlikely he will ever change. Really sad. I am really sorry to the family/friends, I couldn’t imagine.

At the risk of being unpopular here, I feel bad for him too. Mental illness is not only a scary place to be – but sometimes the meds they give you make you feel far worse. He sounds like someone who should have been committed until he was stable on his meds, not just given a bottle of pills and sent on his merry way.
90% of my sympathy does go to his sister, though. She obviously loved him very much if she kept putting herself in situations like that.
It’s just a very sad story all around.

At the risk of being unpopular here, I feel bad for him too. Mental illness is not only a scary place to be – but sometimes the meds they give you make you feel far worse. He sounds like someone who should have been committed until he was stable on his meds, not just given a bottle of pills and sent on his merry way.
90% of my sympathy does go to his sister, though. She obviously loved him very much if she kept putting herself in situations like that.
It’s just a very sad story all around.

At the risk of being unpopular here, I feel bad for him too. Mental illness is not only a scary place to be – but sometimes the meds they give you make you feel far worse. He sounds like someone who should have been committed until he was stable on his meds, not just given a bottle of pills and sent on his merry way.
90% of my sympathy does go to his sister, though. She obviously loved him very much if she kept putting herself in situations like that.
It’s just a very sad story all around.

He couldn’t be forced to get treatment until he had injured or killed someone. Until then, he was free to roam, carry bats, blare radios, refuse his medication. Family members should NOT be FORCED into becoming amateur psychiatric nurses and ward attendants.

We need to reverse the “they have rights” trend that has put people at risk of violence from mentally ill people because the mentally ill “have rights.” We have rights, too. The right not to have dangerous people roaming the streets until they feel like killing someone. A person who is off their medication and hearing voices is not a competent individual. I have a friend who paid the price of the “tolerance.” He was stabbed to death by his schizophrenic son. After that, his son got some good medical care and my friend got a coffin.

He couldn’t be forced to get treatment until he had injured or killed someone. Until then, he was free to roam, carry bats, blare radios, refuse his medication. Family members should NOT be FORCED into becoming amateur psychiatric nurses and ward attendants.

We need to reverse the “they have rights” trend that has put people at risk of violence from mentally ill people because the mentally ill “have rights.” We have rights, too. The right not to have dangerous people roaming the streets until they feel like killing someone. A person who is off their medication and hearing voices is not a competent individual. I have a friend who paid the price of the “tolerance.” He was stabbed to death by his schizophrenic son. After that, his son got some good medical care and my friend got a coffin.

He couldn’t be forced to get treatment until he had injured or killed someone. Until then, he was free to roam, carry bats, blare radios, refuse his medication. Family members should NOT be FORCED into becoming amateur psychiatric nurses and ward attendants.

We need to reverse the “they have rights” trend that has put people at risk of violence from mentally ill people because the mentally ill “have rights.” We have rights, too. The right not to have dangerous people roaming the streets until they feel like killing someone. A person who is off their medication and hearing voices is not a competent individual. I have a friend who paid the price of the “tolerance.” He was stabbed to death by his schizophrenic son. After that, his son got some good medical care and my friend got a coffin.

He looks like one of my co-workers. They could be brothers (they aren’t.) I soooo wish I could post this picture of him so you could see the uncanny resemblance. But trust me, it’s pretty funny.

He looks like one of my co-workers. They could be brothers (they aren’t.) I soooo wish I could post this picture of him so you could see the uncanny resemblance. But trust me, it’s pretty funny.

He looks like one of my co-workers. They could be brothers (they aren’t.) I soooo wish I could post this picture of him so you could see the uncanny resemblance. But trust me, it’s pretty funny.

What a terribly sad and tragic story. I think the sister knowing her brother had a tendency to be violent, should have called for officer assistance.

Carrying a bat is threatening and a blaring radio is disturbance of the peace, yeah, she certainly could have got some help from authorities.

Rest in peace Theresa…you were a good sister.

What a terribly sad and tragic story. I think the sister knowing her brother had a tendency to be violent, should have called for officer assistance.

Carrying a bat is threatening and a blaring radio is disturbance of the peace, yeah, she certainly could have got some help from authorities.

Rest in peace Theresa…you were a good sister.

Been there, tried to get a schizo family member help, we tried our best but got nowhere dealing directly with the person. We even had a couple of recommendations from Doctors (MD) that the person had serious delusional issues so we started calling every city, county, state agency we got nowhere. The best you can get is a 48hr hold and release in our county, we did find out the laws vary from county to county, some actually will keep a person for a 30 day evaluation . The crazy part is some agencies will give them up to a 30 day evaluation and commit them longer if necessary, but they’ll only take them if they commit themselves and that’s the last thing they want to do, it’s a catch 22.
The agency policies are more schizo than the patients

Been there, tried to get a schizo family member help, we tried our best but got nowhere dealing directly with the person. We even had a couple of recommendations from Doctors (MD) that the person had serious delusional issues so we started calling every city, county, state agency we got nowhere. The best you can get is a 48hr hold and release in our county, we did find out the laws vary from county to county, some actually will keep a person for a 30 day evaluation . The crazy part is some agencies will give them up to a 30 day evaluation and commit them longer if necessary, but they’ll only take them if they commit themselves and that’s the last thing they want to do, it’s a catch 22.
The agency policies are more schizo than the patients

Been there, tried to get a schizo family member help, we tried our best but got nowhere dealing directly with the person. We even had a couple of recommendations from Doctors (MD) that the person had serious delusional issues so we started calling every city, county, state agency we got nowhere. The best you can get is a 48hr hold and release in our county, we did find out the laws vary from county to county, some actually will keep a person for a 30 day evaluation . The crazy part is some agencies will give them up to a 30 day evaluation and commit them longer if necessary, but they’ll only take them if they commit themselves and that’s the last thing they want to do, it’s a catch 22.
The agency policies are more schizo than the patients

Been there, tried to get a schizo family member help, we tried our best but got nowhere dealing directly with the person. We even had a couple of recommendations from Doctors (MD) that the person had serious delusional issues so we started calling every city, county, state agency we got nowhere. The best you can get is a 48hr hold and release in our county, we did find out the laws vary from county to county, some actually will keep a person for a 30 day evaluation . The crazy part is some agencies will give them up to a 30 day evaluation and commit them longer if necessary, but they’ll only take them if they commit themselves and that’s the last thing they want to do, it’s a catch 22.The agency policies are more schizo than the patients

Great Post bite me ~ so very true. I went thru this with a close friend and apparently it varies state to state. Just a~pardon the pun in advance~MIND BOGGLING journey and so sad for the victims AND the family of the mentally ill.
It’s not so much a patients rights issue, I don’t think wrybread, but one of a mental illness not being recognized as a medical problem like anything else. Budget cuts have slashed options in the three state journey I took on my friends quest to get help for her adult schizo sister. It seems once the parents die in a lot of these cases, there just is no one that can take on the daily care of forcing meds etc.

Been there, tried to get a schizo family member help, we tried our best but got nowhere dealing directly with the person. We even had a couple of recommendations from Doctors (MD) that the person had serious delusional issues so we started calling every city, county, state agency we got nowhere. The best you can get is a 48hr hold and release in our county, we did find out the laws vary from county to county, some actually will keep a person for a 30 day evaluation . The crazy part is some agencies will give them up to a 30 day evaluation and commit them longer if necessary, but they’ll only take them if they commit themselves and that’s the last thing they want to do, it’s a catch 22.The agency policies are more schizo than the patients

Great Post bite me ~ so very true. I went thru this with a close friend and apparently it varies state to state. Just a~pardon the pun in advance~MIND BOGGLING journey and so sad for the victims AND the family of the mentally ill.
It’s not so much a patients rights issue, I don’t think wrybread, but one of a mental illness not being recognized as a medical problem like anything else. Budget cuts have slashed options in the three state journey I took on my friends quest to get help for her adult schizo sister. It seems once the parents die in a lot of these cases, there just is no one that can take on the daily care of forcing meds etc.

He looks like one of my co-workers. They could be brothers (they aren’t.) I soooo wish I could post this picture of him so you could see the uncanny resemblance. But trust me, it’s pretty funny.

Wait a min….you have a REAL job too? I thought this WAS your life’s work, Morbid. At any rate…..keep up the good work!

He looks like one of my co-workers. They could be brothers (they aren’t.) I soooo wish I could post this picture of him so you could see the uncanny resemblance. But trust me, it’s pretty funny.

Wait a min….you have a REAL job too? I thought this WAS your life’s work, Morbid. At any rate…..keep up the good work!

He looks like one of my co-workers. They could be brothers (they aren’t.) I soooo wish I could post this picture of him so you could see the uncanny resemblance. But trust me, it’s pretty funny.

Wait a min….you have a REAL job too? I thought this WAS your life’s work, Morbid. At any rate…..keep up the good work!

This is a sad and tragic story. You’re right Wrybread, the laws need to be changed to “force help” on these poor folks. They can not make the decision to be treated on their own as they’re not capable. His sister was so kind to not turn her back on him when so many may have called it quits for their own sanity and/or safety. One of the many problems with schizophrenics and bi-polar is that that the meds make them feel “normal” and then they think they don’t need them anymore. Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

This is a sad and tragic story. You’re right Wrybread, the laws need to be changed to “force help” on these poor folks. They can not make the decision to be treated on their own as they’re not capable. His sister was so kind to not turn her back on him when so many may have called it quits for their own sanity and/or safety. One of the many problems with schizophrenics and bi-polar is that that the meds make them feel “normal” and then they think they don’t need them anymore. Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

This is a sad and tragic story. You’re right Wrybread, the laws need to be changed to “force help” on these poor folks. They can not make the decision to be treated on their own as they’re not capable. His sister was so kind to not turn her back on him when so many may have called it quits for their own sanity and/or safety. One of the many problems with schizophrenics and bi-polar is that that the meds make them feel “normal” and then they think they don’t need them anymore. Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

This is just so sad.

I had a sister who had issues like this. She took all sorts of meds and then she didn’t. But one thing she always did if she wasn’t gonna take her meds, was stay away from her family. There were times when she would disappear for years at a time. She didn’t trust the voices in her head or herself I guess…Unfortunately, she eventually committed suicide – with a stockpile of the meds she was supposed to be taking. It devastated my family and honestly, I don’t think my father has ever recovered from it (been 10 years).

I can’t imagine how conflicted this family must be-very, very sad…

This is just so sad.

I had a sister who had issues like this. She took all sorts of meds and then she didn’t. But one thing she always did if she wasn’t gonna take her meds, was stay away from her family. There were times when she would disappear for years at a time. She didn’t trust the voices in her head or herself I guess…Unfortunately, she eventually committed suicide – with a stockpile of the meds she was supposed to be taking. It devastated my family and honestly, I don’t think my father has ever recovered from it (been 10 years).

I can’t imagine how conflicted this family must be-very, very sad…

Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

Unless or until they are a danger to themselves or others, folks can’t be forced to take meds. Many unmedicated folks never quite rise to that level and go around being the local fruitcake… harmless but flaky. Sadly, in this case, the threat level escalated before any action could be taken. I, too, wish I had the answers.

Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

Unless or until they are a danger to themselves or others, folks can’t be forced to take meds. Many unmedicated folks never quite rise to that level and go around being the local fruitcake… harmless but flaky. Sadly, in this case, the threat level escalated before any action could be taken. I, too, wish I had the answers.

Buggsy – I am really sorry to hear about your sister. That is very sad.

Same to Biteme and Auddie for having family members/friends with this illness and their struggles.

I don’t think sueing doctors is the right answer though, I think doctors have so much pressure already and from what I hear this illness is very unpredictable. How can you be accountable for that? I imagine the only way would be to have more mandatory stays, but state funds and sometimes there are people who do not need it and are sent by accident. I can see where this gets very frustrating.

Buggsy – I am really sorry to hear about your sister. That is very sad.

Same to Biteme and Auddie for having family members/friends with this illness and their struggles.

I don’t think sueing doctors is the right answer though, I think doctors have so much pressure already and from what I hear this illness is very unpredictable. How can you be accountable for that? I imagine the only way would be to have more mandatory stays, but state funds and sometimes there are people who do not need it and are sent by accident. I can see where this gets very frustrating.

Thanks Cassie. Ten years still seems like yesterday-but I am at peace with it. Ifeel like my sister is at peace and in a place where she can just be herself-

I don’t think doctors can really do any more than they do-people with these types of illnesses are what I would consider nomads. They choose to be alone and often separate themselves from the world.

Thanks Cassie. Ten years still seems like yesterday-but I am at peace with it. Ifeel like my sister is at peace and in a place where she can just be herself-

I don’t think doctors can really do any more than they do-people with these types of illnesses are what I would consider nomads. They choose to be alone and often separate themselves from the world.

Thanks Cassie. Ten years still seems like yesterday-but I am at peace with it. Ifeel like my sister is at peace and in a place where she can just be herself-

I don’t think doctors can really do any more than they do-people with these types of illnesses are what I would consider nomads. They choose to be alone and often separate themselves from the world.

Thanks Cassie. Ten years still seems like yesterday-but I am at peace with it. Ifeel like my sister is at peace and in a place where she can just be herself-

I don’t think doctors can really do any more than they do-people with these types of illnesses are what I would consider nomads. They choose to be alone and often separate themselves from the world.

Thanks Cassie. Ten years still seems like yesterday-but I am at peace with it. Ifeel like my sister is at peace and in a place where she can just be herself-

I don’t think doctors can really do any more than they do-people with these types of illnesses are what I would consider nomads. They choose to be alone and often separate themselves from the world.

I find the difference in response between these comments and the comments in the forum regarding the woman who killed her baby while suffering from postpartum psychosis to be very interesting.

I find the difference in response between these comments and the comments in the forum regarding the woman who killed her baby while suffering from postpartum psychosis to be very interesting.

It’s not so much a patients rights issue, I don’t think wrybread, but one of a mental illness not being recognized as a medical problem like anything else. Budget cuts have slashed options in the three state journey I took on my friends quest to get help for her adult schizo sister.blockquote>

It’s patient’s rights at its roots. People have a “right” to be mentally ill and living on a sidewalk. They have the right to refuse treatment or commitment until they have harmed themselves or someone else.

You’re right about the dearth of options once someone wants help. That is what happened when health care became a business and someone’s health tragedy became a money-making opportunity for stockholders.

This all makes me furious.

It’s not so much a patients rights issue, I don’t think wrybread, but one of a mental illness not being recognized as a medical problem like anything else. Budget cuts have slashed options in the three state journey I took on my friends quest to get help for her adult schizo sister.blockquote>

It’s patient’s rights at its roots. People have a “right” to be mentally ill and living on a sidewalk. They have the right to refuse treatment or commitment until they have harmed themselves or someone else.

You’re right about the dearth of options once someone wants help. That is what happened when health care became a business and someone’s health tragedy became a money-making opportunity for stockholders.

This all makes me furious.

This is a sad and tragic story. You’re right Wrybread, the laws need to be changed to “force help” on these poor folks. They can not make the decision to be treated on their own as they’re not capable. His sister was so kind to not turn her back on him when so many may have called it quits for their own sanity and/or safety. One of the many problems with schizophrenics and bi-polar is that that the meds make them feel “normal” and then they think they don’t need them anymore. Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

Here we go with the law suit mentality. Doctors have money let’s sue them, the Doctor’s not a baby sitter, he did his job and prescribed the medicine, the doctor can’t restrain them and force pills down their throat, medical bills are out of sight because of the let’s sue them mentality, frivolous indiscriminate lawsuits are the problem. The system unfortunately is geared against lawsuits, that’s why they will not accept a patient unless they agree to commit themselves
LAWSUITS are the problem not the solution

This is a sad and tragic story. You’re right Wrybread, the laws need to be changed to “force help” on these poor folks. They can not make the decision to be treated on their own as they’re not capable. His sister was so kind to not turn her back on him when so many may have called it quits for their own sanity and/or safety. One of the many problems with schizophrenics and bi-polar is that that the meds make them feel “normal” and then they think they don’t need them anymore. Their doctors either need to check on them and make sure they’re taking the meds or be held accountable when something happens. Maybe if a few doctors get sued they’ll find a way to make this work? Maybe the pharmacies software can be red-flagged when they prescriptions aren’t refilled and alert the doctors? I wish I had the answers.

Here we go with the law suit mentality. Doctors have money let’s sue them, the Doctor’s not a baby sitter, he did his job and prescribed the medicine, the doctor can’t restrain them and force pills down their throat, medical bills are out of sight because of the let’s sue them mentality, frivolous indiscriminate lawsuits are the problem. The system unfortunately is geared against lawsuits, that’s why they will not accept a patient unless they agree to commit themselves
LAWSUITS are the problem not the solution

Damn…this dude is just scarey looking.
I think I would of let him do what ever he wanted to regarding the pooltable incident…..

Damn…this dude is just scarey looking.
I think I would of let him do what ever he wanted to regarding the pooltable incident…..

Damn…this dude is just scarey looking.
I think I would of let him do what ever he wanted to regarding the pooltable incident…..

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

This happened to her on a previous visit with him.

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

This happened to her on a previous visit with him.

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

This happened to her on a previous visit with him.

I’m confused – if she locked herself in the bathroom & called 911, why didn’t the cops or someone show up to save her or at least check out the situation?

This happened to her on a previous visit with him.

well, first, lots of specialty pharmacies do call the client up and say hey its time for your meds do you want us to send them. bc thats how they get paid. and their patients say sure what the hell. especially if the patient gets government assistance and their state checks their pharm records for compliance levels – which some states do.

but that does not stop a person from having a box of pills pile up in the back closet. you cant force someone to take the meds once they fill the prescription.

and i kinda think that forcing a stranger to take their meds is like the broccoli police coming in and making sure that i eat my veggies. im grown. you aint my momma.

but that being said, it is true that the bulk of the responsibility for caring for people with mental illnesses – medicated or not – lies with their families. and that needs to stop or the cycle will continue and we will continue to type away about peeps like mr rockwood.

well, first, lots of specialty pharmacies do call the client up and say hey its time for your meds do you want us to send them. bc thats how they get paid. and their patients say sure what the hell. especially if the patient gets government assistance and their state checks their pharm records for compliance levels – which some states do.

but that does not stop a person from having a box of pills pile up in the back closet. you cant force someone to take the meds once they fill the prescription.

and i kinda think that forcing a stranger to take their meds is like the broccoli police coming in and making sure that i eat my veggies. im grown. you aint my momma.

but that being said, it is true that the bulk of the responsibility for caring for people with mental illnesses – medicated or not – lies with their families. and that needs to stop or the cycle will continue and we will continue to type away about peeps like mr rockwood.

well, first, lots of specialty pharmacies do call the client up and say hey its time for your meds do you want us to send them. bc thats how they get paid. and their patients say sure what the hell. especially if the patient gets government assistance and their state checks their pharm records for compliance levels – which some states do.

but that does not stop a person from having a box of pills pile up in the back closet. you cant force someone to take the meds once they fill the prescription.

and i kinda think that forcing a stranger to take their meds is like the broccoli police coming in and making sure that i eat my veggies. im grown. you aint my momma.

but that being said, it is true that the bulk of the responsibility for caring for people with mental illnesses – medicated or not – lies with their families. and that needs to stop or the cycle will continue and we will continue to type away about peeps like mr rockwood.

regarding the woman who killed her baby while suffering from postpartum psychosis to be very interesting.

Athena, You make a good point, but may of us have lived with people like Joseph and have a better understanding of there form of insanity. Joseph was never going to get better, no matter how many pills he took or the therapy he recieved.

How would you expect people to undestand something that even doctors can not. Postpartum psychosis, is often never diagnosed, untill after they have harmed or murdered there child. Many women with the disorder realize something is wrong with them, fewer than 20% actually speak to their doctor. The key here is they realise something is wrong and can act on it. I do not believe that Joseph had that same choice.

I respect your opinions and I am not trying to start a fight or argue one form of insanity vs another form of insanity . Just saying its Apples and oranges, not 2 different kinds of apples. Untill Postpartum psychosis is better understood the mother is going to be consitered a cold blooded killer by most people.

regarding the woman who killed her baby while suffering from postpartum psychosis to be very interesting.

Athena, You make a good point, but may of us have lived with people like Joseph and have a better understanding of there form of insanity. Joseph was never going to get better, no matter how many pills he took or the therapy he recieved.

How would you expect people to undestand something that even doctors can not. Postpartum psychosis, is often never diagnosed, untill after they have harmed or murdered there child. Many women with the disorder realize something is wrong with them, fewer than 20% actually speak to their doctor. The key here is they realise something is wrong and can act on it. I do not believe that Joseph had that same choice.

I respect your opinions and I am not trying to start a fight or argue one form of insanity vs another form of insanity . Just saying its Apples and oranges, not 2 different kinds of apples. Untill Postpartum psychosis is better understood the mother is going to be consitered a cold blooded killer by most people.

regarding the woman who killed her baby while suffering from postpartum psychosis to be very interesting.

Athena, You make a good point, but may of us have lived with people like Joseph and have a better understanding of there form of insanity. Joseph was never going to get better, no matter how many pills he took or the therapy he recieved.

How would you expect people to undestand something that even doctors can not. Postpartum psychosis, is often never diagnosed, untill after they have harmed or murdered there child. Many women with the disorder realize something is wrong with them, fewer than 20% actually speak to their doctor. The key here is they realise something is wrong and can act on it. I do not believe that Joseph had that same choice.

I respect your opinions and I am not trying to start a fight or argue one form of insanity vs another form of insanity . Just saying its Apples and oranges, not 2 different kinds of apples. Untill Postpartum psychosis is better understood the mother is going to be consitered a cold blooded killer by most people.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960′s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed. The laws were also never amended to ensure that the mentally ill received the proper care within the justice system.
Yes, I spent way too long in school learning all about this shit. But it really hits home when I am forced to call 911 on my mentally-ill-but-untreated-and-uninsured adult son. When he loses his already tenuous control of himself and threatens to shoot his entire family, I cannot force him to receive the appropriate treatment. I have to call the police and expose them to the very real possibility that my Ft. Benning trained, sharpshooter son MAY actually kill us all.
I cannot abandon my child to the tender mercies of cold reality. He cannot support himself despite an intelligence so overwhelmingly sharp that concepts which most of us never grasp are like toys in this child’s mind. When he is ‘himself’, my son is the most amazing human being I have ever known. There is no one I would rather debate politics, religion, life, or college basketball with. But there is also no one on this earth who is as likely to kill me one day for simply asking him to do a household chore he doesn’t want to do.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960′s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed. The laws were also never amended to ensure that the mentally ill received the proper care within the justice system.
Yes, I spent way too long in school learning all about this shit. But it really hits home when I am forced to call 911 on my mentally-ill-but-untreated-and-uninsured adult son. When he loses his already tenuous control of himself and threatens to shoot his entire family, I cannot force him to receive the appropriate treatment. I have to call the police and expose them to the very real possibility that my Ft. Benning trained, sharpshooter son MAY actually kill us all.
I cannot abandon my child to the tender mercies of cold reality. He cannot support himself despite an intelligence so overwhelmingly sharp that concepts which most of us never grasp are like toys in this child’s mind. When he is ‘himself’, my son is the most amazing human being I have ever known. There is no one I would rather debate politics, religion, life, or college basketball with. But there is also no one on this earth who is as likely to kill me one day for simply asking him to do a household chore he doesn’t want to do.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960′s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed. The laws were also never amended to ensure that the mentally ill received the proper care within the justice system.
Yes, I spent way too long in school learning all about this shit. But it really hits home when I am forced to call 911 on my mentally-ill-but-untreated-and-uninsured adult son. When he loses his already tenuous control of himself and threatens to shoot his entire family, I cannot force him to receive the appropriate treatment. I have to call the police and expose them to the very real possibility that my Ft. Benning trained, sharpshooter son MAY actually kill us all.
I cannot abandon my child to the tender mercies of cold reality. He cannot support himself despite an intelligence so overwhelmingly sharp that concepts which most of us never grasp are like toys in this child’s mind. When he is ‘himself’, my son is the most amazing human being I have ever known. There is no one I would rather debate politics, religion, life, or college basketball with. But there is also no one on this earth who is as likely to kill me one day for simply asking him to do a household chore he doesn’t want to do.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960′s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed. The laws were also never amended to ensure that the mentally ill received the proper care within the justice system.
Yes, I spent way too long in school learning all about this shit. But it really hits home when I am forced to call 911 on my mentally-ill-but-untreated-and-uninsured adult son. When he loses his already tenuous control of himself and threatens to shoot his entire family, I cannot force him to receive the appropriate treatment. I have to call the police and expose them to the very real possibility that my Ft. Benning trained, sharpshooter son MAY actually kill us all.
I cannot abandon my child to the tender mercies of cold reality. He cannot support himself despite an intelligence so overwhelmingly sharp that concepts which most of us never grasp are like toys in this child’s mind. When he is ‘himself’, my son is the most amazing human being I have ever known. There is no one I would rather debate politics, religion, life, or college basketball with. But there is also no one on this earth who is as likely to kill me one day for simply asking him to do a household chore he doesn’t want to do.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960′s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed. The laws were also never amended to ensure that the mentally ill received the proper care within the justice system.
Yes, I spent way too long in school learning all about this shit. But it really hits home when I am forced to call 911 on my mentally-ill-but-untreated-and-uninsured adult son. When he loses his already tenuous control of himself and threatens to shoot his entire family, I cannot force him to receive the appropriate treatment. I have to call the police and expose them to the very real possibility that my Ft. Benning trained, sharpshooter son MAY actually kill us all.
I cannot abandon my child to the tender mercies of cold reality. He cannot support himself despite an intelligence so overwhelmingly sharp that concepts which most of us never grasp are like toys in this child’s mind. When he is ‘himself’, my son is the most amazing human being I have ever known. There is no one I would rather debate politics, religion, life, or college basketball with. But there is also no one on this earth who is as likely to kill me one day for simply asking him to do a household chore he doesn’t want to do.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

And PS: Use spell check, people. And proofread. It’s not that damn hard, and it makes your posts much more coherent and therefore more pleasant (or not) to read. I just can’t take anyone who spells like a first grader seriously…

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Amen to everything you have stated. Today I had an appointment for my son at Community Mental Health about his adult transition. The programs are half ass attempts to make it ‘look’ as if the state(s) and Federal government has done what they said they’d do. Unfortunately, the care and help is not there and, in addition, neither is the insurance for the medications they need.

It’s BS…. and it all comes down to the money.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Amen to everything you have stated. Today I had an appointment for my son at Community Mental Health about his adult transition. The programs are half ass attempts to make it ‘look’ as if the state(s) and Federal government has done what they said they’d do. Unfortunately, the care and help is not there and, in addition, neither is the insurance for the medications they need.

It’s BS…. and it all comes down to the money.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Amen to everything you have stated. Today I had an appointment for my son at Community Mental Health about his adult transition. The programs are half ass attempts to make it ‘look’ as if the state(s) and Federal government has done what they said they’d do. Unfortunately, the care and help is not there and, in addition, neither is the insurance for the medications they need.

It’s BS…. and it all comes down to the money.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Amen to everything you have stated. Today I had an appointment for my son at Community Mental Health about his adult transition. The programs are half ass attempts to make it ‘look’ as if the state(s) and Federal government has done what they said they’d do. Unfortunately, the care and help is not there and, in addition, neither is the insurance for the medications they need.

It’s BS…. and it all comes down to the money.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Amen to everything you have stated. Today I had an appointment for my son at Community Mental Health about his adult transition. The programs are half ass attempts to make it ‘look’ as if the state(s) and Federal government has done what they said they’d do. Unfortunately, the care and help is not there and, in addition, neither is the insurance for the medications they need.

It’s BS…. and it all comes down to the money.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. As the parent of an adult mentally-ill child, there is nothing I can do to compel him to get treatment. All I can do is hope we all get out of this alive.

Amen to everything you have stated. Today I had an appointment for my son at Community Mental Health about his adult transition. The programs are half ass attempts to make it ‘look’ as if the state(s) and Federal government has done what they said they’d do. Unfortunately, the care and help is not there and, in addition, neither is the insurance for the medications they need.

It’s BS…. and it all comes down to the money.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Good luck DNEILZ, my thoughts are with you.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960’s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. blockquote>

Thank you for saying this so eloquently. The mentally ill are not the only ones abandoned by government, insurance companies, and the medical profession. I do not blame the ordinary citizens who make up our society because they would get these people help if they could. But when no one will fund programs, no one wants patients who will never get well, and deinstitutionalization means there ARE no longer any long-term, lifetime facilities for the mentally there is nothing to do but wait for tragedy. Then the mentally person gets treatment and is kept away from society — but who has died as the price that must be paid?

My friend who was murdered was a wonderful, gentle man. He deserved to live to be old, to enjoy his life without fearing child. He got many stab wounds and the experience of bleeding to death instead.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960’s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. blockquote>

Thank you for saying this so eloquently. The mentally ill are not the only ones abandoned by government, insurance companies, and the medical profession. I do not blame the ordinary citizens who make up our society because they would get these people help if they could. But when no one will fund programs, no one wants patients who will never get well, and deinstitutionalization means there ARE no longer any long-term, lifetime facilities for the mentally there is nothing to do but wait for tragedy. Then the mentally person gets treatment and is kept away from society — but who has died as the price that must be paid?

My friend who was murdered was a wonderful, gentle man. He deserved to live to be old, to enjoy his life without fearing child. He got many stab wounds and the experience of bleeding to death instead.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960’s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. blockquote>

Thank you for saying this so eloquently. The mentally ill are not the only ones abandoned by government, insurance companies, and the medical profession. I do not blame the ordinary citizens who make up our society because they would get these people help if they could. But when no one will fund programs, no one wants patients who will never get well, and deinstitutionalization means there ARE no longer any long-term, lifetime facilities for the mentally there is nothing to do but wait for tragedy. Then the mentally person gets treatment and is kept away from society — but who has died as the price that must be paid?

My friend who was murdered was a wonderful, gentle man. He deserved to live to be old, to enjoy his life without fearing child. He got many stab wounds and the experience of bleeding to death instead.

Unfortunately, this situation was brought to you courtesy of the “Deinstitutionalization” movement of the 1960’s. At its heart, deinstitutionalization has a wonderfully humane principle: Remove human beings from psychiatric “back wards”, where they languish and regress, and give them the opportunity to be contributing members of society. The tragedy is that deinstitutionalization was never fully funded by the Federal Government. Mental hospitals were emptied, but community mental health centers, half-way houses, and the infrastructure of outpatient oversight was never completed.

Our society has abandoned the mentally ill to survive as best they can, under the guise of ‘patient’s rights’. blockquote>

Thank you for saying this so eloquently. The mentally ill are not the only ones abandoned by government, insurance companies, and the medical profession. I do not blame the ordinary citizens who make up our society because they would get these people help if they could. But when no one will fund programs, no one wants patients who will never get well, and deinstitutionalization means there ARE no longer any long-term, lifetime facilities for the mentally there is nothing to do but wait for tragedy. Then the mentally person gets treatment and is kept away from society — but who has died as the price that must be paid?

My friend who was murdered was a wonderful, gentle man. He deserved to live to be old, to enjoy his life without fearing child. He got many stab wounds and the experience of bleeding to death instead.

I’m so sorry about your friend, Wry.

You are right, of course. It’s all about money in the end.

I’m so sorry about your friend, Wry.

You are right, of course. It’s all about money in the end.

I’m so sorry about your friend, Wry.

You are right, of course. It’s all about money in the end.

I’m so sorry about your friend, Wry.

You are right, of course. It’s all about money in the end.

I’m so sorry about your friend, Wry.

You are right, of course. It’s all about money in the end.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

Joseph Rockwood was mentally unbalanced. He would blare 3 TV’s in his apartment to block out the sound of the voices in his head. He refused all treatment. He refused to take his meds. When others tried to help, he put on an act of complete normalcy. He murdered the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally.

Rockwood was off his rocker.

Geez.

But if he was schizoid, would he be able put on an act of normalcy? Not sure that adds up.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

There is no easy solution for how to deal with the mentally ill.

Oh, sure, they could all be locked up the moment they’re diagnosed, but then I’d be locked up in an institution, too. I’m not dangerous, I don’t refuse medication/treatement, but that doesn’t change the fact that I do have a psychiatric disorder, along with a neurological condition. I don’t think I, or others like me, should have to locked up just because there are dangerous mentally ill people who refuse treatment out there. On the other hand, when will I or someone I love be killed by a mentally ill person who has refused treatment? Either extreme is not good.

Finding a workable middle ground would be a good solution, but that would require taking things on a case-by-case basis and not lumping everyone with a diagnosis together. This man should not have been in a situation where he could harm someone. He was obviously dangerous. If it wasn’t his sister he killed, it would have been someone else. It was only a matter of time. It’s not his fault that he’s schizophrenic, but he shouldn’t have been in a situation where he had the option of refusing his meds. It’s sad, all the way around.

This is a sad and tragic story.