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Marcus Kennedy; 34th Time Is The Charm

October 9, 2008 at 10:41 am by  

Marcus Kennedy; 34th Time Is The Charm

Charlotte, NC - A 12-year-old girl caught a Charlotte city bus to go to school Wednesday. She then changed buses at the main transit located downtown. It was there, 28-year-old Marcus Maurice Kennedy boarded the bus with her and tried talking to her. The 12-year-old did not oblige. Marcus took this in stride and when the girl got off the bus to catch the school bus that takes her to her middle school, this fucking asshole followed her, dragged her into some bushes, and raped her.

Luckily, John Driggers heard the girl screaming and saw Marcus raping the girl, using a window squeegee against her neck. Several other witnesses began chasing Marcus when he ran off, capturing and him in a nearby yard where he was trying to change his clothes with some he had in a bag. These people then dragged his worthless ass back to the scene until cops showed up.

Now, here is the real kicker. Check out Kennedy’s arrest record:

09/17/96: Possession of a handgun by minor. Dismissed without leave.
07/08/98: Possession of marijuana up to half-ounce. Prayer for judgment. Carrying concealed handgun. Dismissed.
01/25/99: Harassing phone call; second degree trespassing: Guilty. Incarceration 30 days. Stalking. Dismissed.
04/13/99: Resisting public officer. Guilty.
04/02/99: Assault on a female. Guilty. Probation: 18 months.
11/05/99: Carrying concealed gun. Guilty. Incarceration 30 days. Possession of stolen goods. Dismissed without leave.
04/30/00: Possession of cocaine. Dismissed.
10/26/01: Second-degree trespass. Dismissed.
11/18/01: Indecent liberties with a child. Guilty. Probation 24 months.
03/06/02: Second-degree trespass: Dismissed.
02/29/04: Driving while impaired. Dismissed.
05/04/04: Larceny. Guilty. Incarceration 40 days.
05/09/04: Drug possession. Dismissed
08/05/04: Possession of drug paraphernalia. Dismissed.
09/11/04: Harassing phone call. Dismissed.
01/06/05: Possession of drug paraphernalia: Guilty. Incarceration 13 days.
05/11/05: Failed to register as a sex offender. Dismissed.
05/13/05: Possession/Consuming beer/wine public street. Guilty. Incarceration 10 days.
09/03/05: Possession of drug paraphernalia. Dismissed without leave.
09/21/05: Second-degree trespass. Guilty. Incarceration 2 days.
12/13/05 Failed to register as a sex offender. Guilty. Incarceration 17 to 21 months.
02/22/06: Resisting public officer. Guilty. Incarceration 30 days.
11/26/06: Possession of drug paraphernalia: Guilty. Incarceration 3 days.
12/14/06: Breaking or entering. Guilty. Incarceration 2 days.
12/16/06: Possession of drug paraphernalia: Dismissed by the court.
03/20/07: Loitering. Dismissed. Resisting public officer. Dismissed. Drug paraphernalia. Guilty.
03/12/08: Possession of drug paraphernalia: Guilty. Incarceration 26 days.
03/13/08 Public consumption. Guilty. Incarceration 2 days.
03/29/08: Second-degree trespass: Dismissed without leave.
04/02/08: Two counts possession of cocaine. Pending. Drug paraphernalia. Pending.
05/20/08: Second-degree trespass. Guilty. Incarceration 24 days.
06/25/08: Second-degree trespass: Dismissed without leave.
06/26/08: Simple assault. Dismissed. Larceny. Dismissed. Injury to personal property. Dismissed. Simple assault. Dismissed.

Does this not piss off anybody? How in the hell was this man still on the street? Marcus can now add kidnapping and rape to his list.

Oh, and since I know people will ask. It seems as if the girl used to live in that area, but had recently moved. She was taking the city buses BACK to her old neighborhood so that she could take her old school bus to school. My guess is wherever she lives, may be out of her current school’s district or something. Not that it matters one bit, of course, just trying to explain why she was bus hopping.

Anyway, here is hoping Marcus is not free to roam the streets again.

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  • orion

    failed to register as a sex offender-dismissed????? are you kidding me??? seriously!! i don’t even think there are words to describe. this guy should be shot on sight. grrrrrrrrrr

  • orion

    failed to register as a sex offender-dismissed????? are you kidding me??? seriously!! i don’t even think there are words to describe. this guy should be shot on sight. grrrrrrrrrr

  • orion

    failed to register as a sex offender-dismissed????? are you kidding me??? seriously!! i don’t even think there are words to describe. this guy should be shot on sight. grrrrrrrrrr

  • orion

    failed to register as a sex offender-dismissed????? are you kidding me??? seriously!! i don’t even think there are words to describe. this guy should be shot on sight. grrrrrrrrrr

  • orion

    failed to register as a sex offender-dismissed????? are you kidding me??? seriously!! i don’t even think there are words to describe. this guy should be shot on sight. grrrrrrrrrr

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

  • porcelain

    What the Fork is with all this “dismissed” shit?

    I think he should have been in prison trading his starfish for cigarettes and toilet wine.. not out on the streets taking the city bus!

    Note to criminals..move to North Carolina they will accommodate you there.

  • porcelain

    What the Fork is with all this “dismissed” shit?

    I think he should have been in prison trading his starfish for cigarettes and toilet wine.. not out on the streets taking the city bus!

    Note to criminals..move to North Carolina they will accommodate you there.

  • porcelain

    What the Fork is with all this “dismissed” shit?

    I think he should have been in prison trading his starfish for cigarettes and toilet wine.. not out on the streets taking the city bus!

    Note to criminals..move to North Carolina they will accommodate you there.

  • porcelain

    What the Fork is with all this “dismissed” shit?

    I think he should have been in prison trading his starfish for cigarettes and toilet wine.. not out on the streets taking the city bus!

    Note to criminals..move to North Carolina they will accommodate you there.

  • Anonymous

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!(Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    Jenjen: I went to the mall all the time when I was 12. And 11. With friends, not by myself, but still.

    And I took a public bus to get to school, by myself, starting with 2nd grade. Not because my parents were committing fraud but because I had a full scholarship to a private school that was on the other side of the city. I did it EVERYDAY. I took a public bus to get to where the school bus picked me up.

    Then, after we moved to upstate NY, I walked to school and back–starting in 3rd grade–all by myself, and it was a long walk, every single day.

    My mom was a single parent and she was at work, so there wasn’t much choice.

    Now, I’m 35, so this was awhile ago. But there were plenty of rapists and child molesters in the world.

    I guess I just don’t understand what’s with the high horse. I think you are blaming the wrong people–when there are so many more appropriate people to blame here, for instance the justice system and the RAPIST himself.

    I live in GA, too, by the way, in Atlanta. When my husband takes the train in every day to midtown to his office, he sees kids around this same age on the train. These are white little kiddos going to their prep school, in their little khaki prep school uniforms. So, in answer to “who lets” their kids do that, well, lots of people do.

    Just seems to me like there are more appropriate places to place blame.

    It sounds like they should have switched her school, but it’s understandable why they didn’t. As long as we don’t give enough money to the schools, parents will want to try to get their kid in the best school in the area. At any rate, lots of kids take the bus by themselves. Every day. Or walk to school by themselves. Every day. (And lots of women go out alone in the dark night by themselves, every day. Sometimes they do it wearing miniskirts. So what. Why blame the vicitim?)

    The one at fault is the rapist, who probably shouldn’t even have been out and about at all. I’m sure you didn’t intend this, but you sound like you’d make a GREAT defense attorney for him…

    I’m not yelling at you, I just want the right person to have full responsibility placed on him for what he did. It’s not her parents fault.

  • Anonymous

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!(Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    Jenjen: I went to the mall all the time when I was 12. And 11. With friends, not by myself, but still.

    And I took a public bus to get to school, by myself, starting with 2nd grade. Not because my parents were committing fraud but because I had a full scholarship to a private school that was on the other side of the city. I did it EVERYDAY. I took a public bus to get to where the school bus picked me up.

    Then, after we moved to upstate NY, I walked to school and back–starting in 3rd grade–all by myself, and it was a long walk, every single day.

    My mom was a single parent and she was at work, so there wasn’t much choice.

    Now, I’m 35, so this was awhile ago. But there were plenty of rapists and child molesters in the world.

    I guess I just don’t understand what’s with the high horse. I think you are blaming the wrong people–when there are so many more appropriate people to blame here, for instance the justice system and the RAPIST himself.

    I live in GA, too, by the way, in Atlanta. When my husband takes the train in every day to midtown to his office, he sees kids around this same age on the train. These are white little kiddos going to their prep school, in their little khaki prep school uniforms. So, in answer to “who lets” their kids do that, well, lots of people do.

    Just seems to me like there are more appropriate places to place blame.

    It sounds like they should have switched her school, but it’s understandable why they didn’t. As long as we don’t give enough money to the schools, parents will want to try to get their kid in the best school in the area. At any rate, lots of kids take the bus by themselves. Every day. Or walk to school by themselves. Every day. (And lots of women go out alone in the dark night by themselves, every day. Sometimes they do it wearing miniskirts. So what. Why blame the vicitim?)

    The one at fault is the rapist, who probably shouldn’t even have been out and about at all. I’m sure you didn’t intend this, but you sound like you’d make a GREAT defense attorney for him…

    I’m not yelling at you, I just want the right person to have full responsibility placed on him for what he did. It’s not her parents fault.

  • Anonymous

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!(Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    Jenjen: I went to the mall all the time when I was 12. And 11. With friends, not by myself, but still.

    And I took a public bus to get to school, by myself, starting with 2nd grade. Not because my parents were committing fraud but because I had a full scholarship to a private school that was on the other side of the city. I did it EVERYDAY. I took a public bus to get to where the school bus picked me up.

    Then, after we moved to upstate NY, I walked to school and back–starting in 3rd grade–all by myself, and it was a long walk, every single day.

    My mom was a single parent and she was at work, so there wasn’t much choice.

    Now, I’m 35, so this was awhile ago. But there were plenty of rapists and child molesters in the world.

    I guess I just don’t understand what’s with the high horse. I think you are blaming the wrong people–when there are so many more appropriate people to blame here, for instance the justice system and the RAPIST himself.

    I live in GA, too, by the way, in Atlanta. When my husband takes the train in every day to midtown to his office, he sees kids around this same age on the train. These are white little kiddos going to their prep school, in their little khaki prep school uniforms. So, in answer to “who lets” their kids do that, well, lots of people do.

    Just seems to me like there are more appropriate places to place blame.

    It sounds like they should have switched her school, but it’s understandable why they didn’t. As long as we don’t give enough money to the schools, parents will want to try to get their kid in the best school in the area. At any rate, lots of kids take the bus by themselves. Every day. Or walk to school by themselves. Every day. (And lots of women go out alone in the dark night by themselves, every day. Sometimes they do it wearing miniskirts. So what. Why blame the vicitim?)

    The one at fault is the rapist, who probably shouldn’t even have been out and about at all. I’m sure you didn’t intend this, but you sound like you’d make a GREAT defense attorney for him…

    I’m not yelling at you, I just want the right person to have full responsibility placed on him for what he did. It’s not her parents fault.

  • sugarglider

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!(Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    Jenjen: I went to the mall all the time when I was 12. And 11. With friends, not by myself, but still.

    And I took a public bus to get to school, by myself, starting with 2nd grade. Not because my parents were committing fraud but because I had a full scholarship to a private school that was on the other side of the city. I did it EVERYDAY. I took a public bus to get to where the school bus picked me up.

    Then, after we moved to upstate NY, I walked to school and back–starting in 3rd grade–all by myself, and it was a long walk, every single day.

    My mom was a single parent and she was at work, so there wasn’t much choice.

    Now, I’m 35, so this was awhile ago. But there were plenty of rapists and child molesters in the world.

    I guess I just don’t understand what’s with the high horse. I think you are blaming the wrong people–when there are so many more appropriate people to blame here, for instance the justice system and the RAPIST himself.

    I live in GA, too, by the way, in Atlanta. When my husband takes the train in every day to midtown to his office, he sees kids around this same age on the train. These are white little kiddos going to their prep school, in their little khaki prep school uniforms. So, in answer to “who lets” their kids do that, well, lots of people do.

    Just seems to me like there are more appropriate places to place blame.

    It sounds like they should have switched her school, but it’s understandable why they didn’t. As long as we don’t give enough money to the schools, parents will want to try to get their kid in the best school in the area. At any rate, lots of kids take the bus by themselves. Every day. Or walk to school by themselves. Every day. (And lots of women go out alone in the dark night by themselves, every day. Sometimes they do it wearing miniskirts. So what. Why blame the vicitim?)

    The one at fault is the rapist, who probably shouldn’t even have been out and about at all. I’m sure you didn’t intend this, but you sound like you’d make a GREAT defense attorney for him…

    I’m not yelling at you, I just want the right person to have full responsibility placed on him for what he did. It’s not her parents fault.

  • http://baby-grace.org/ mpratt

    Does this not piss off anybody? How in the hell was this man still on the street? Marcus can now add kidnapping and rape to his list.

    Ya think… This is just ridiculous!! No way should he be allowed back in society again. I hope this poor girl is ok.

  • http://baby-grace.org/ mpratt

    Does this not piss off anybody? How in the hell was this man still on the street? Marcus can now add kidnapping and rape to his list.

    Ya think… This is just ridiculous!! No way should he be allowed back in society again. I hope this poor girl is ok.

  • http://baby-grace.org/ mpratt

    Does this not piss off anybody? How in the hell was this man still on the street? Marcus can now add kidnapping and rape to his list.

    Ya think… This is just ridiculous!! No way should he be allowed back in society again. I hope this poor girl is ok.

  • http://baby-grace.org/ mpratt

    Does this not piss off anybody? How in the hell was this man still on the street? Marcus can now add kidnapping and rape to his list.

    Ya think… This is just ridiculous!! No way should he be allowed back in society again. I hope this poor girl is ok.

  • http://baby-grace.org mpratt

    Does this not piss off anybody? How in the hell was this man still on the street? Marcus can now add kidnapping and rape to his list.

    Ya think… This is just ridiculous!! No way should he be allowed back in society again. I hope this poor girl is ok.

  • Josiej

    What pisses me off is that he gets more time for TRESPASS than he does for indecent liberties with a child. WTF

  • Josiej

    What pisses me off is that he gets more time for TRESPASS than he does for indecent liberties with a child. WTF

  • Josiej

    What pisses me off is that he gets more time for TRESPASS than he does for indecent liberties with a child. WTF

  • Josiej

    What pisses me off is that he gets more time for TRESPASS than he does for indecent liberties with a child. WTF

  • saltwatergirl

    Another example of a shitty justice system that would rather leave people like this on the street to save room for “dangerous drug users”
    pppfffttttt!!! Fuck this guy!!!

  • saltwatergirl

    Another example of a shitty justice system that would rather leave people like this on the street to save room for “dangerous drug users”
    pppfffttttt!!! Fuck this guy!!!

  • saltwatergirl

    Another example of a shitty justice system that would rather leave people like this on the street to save room for “dangerous drug users”
    pppfffttttt!!! Fuck this guy!!!

  • Anonymous

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

  • Anonymous

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

  • Anonymous

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

  • Anonymous

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

  • sugarglider

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    OH, SHIT! Poor girl… *shakes head*

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

    I agree! I would love to shake the hand of every one of the people that did the right thing by this girl (excluding her parents). I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    OH, SHIT! Poor girl… *shakes head*

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

    I agree! I would love to shake the hand of every one of the people that did the right thing by this girl (excluding her parents). I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    OH, SHIT! Poor girl… *shakes head*

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

    I agree! I would love to shake the hand of every one of the people that did the right thing by this girl (excluding her parents). I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    OH, SHIT! Poor girl… *shakes head*

    I LOVE that bystanders chased him down and restrained him. FANTASTIC. They deserve some kind of community award ceremony and recognition, so more people will step up…service to your country/community doesn’t just have to mean getting shipped over to Iraq. There’s plenty to do right here at home.

    I agree! I would love to shake the hand of every one of the people that did the right thing by this girl (excluding her parents). I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

  • Anonymous

    I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

    It’s preferable that a child never be in a situation where the child could be abused (if impossible to fully ensure). Unfortunately, the sort of world we live in also happens to be one where that isn’t an option for every parent.

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

  • Anonymous

    I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

    It’s preferable that a child never be in a situation where the child could be abused (if impossible to fully ensure). Unfortunately, the sort of world we live in also happens to be one where that isn’t an option for every parent.

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

  • Anonymous

    I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

    It’s preferable that a child never be in a situation where the child could be abused (if impossible to fully ensure). Unfortunately, the sort of world we live in also happens to be one where that isn’t an option for every parent.

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

  • Anonymous

    I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

    It’s preferable that a child never be in a situation where the child could be abused (if impossible to fully ensure). Unfortunately, the sort of world we live in also happens to be one where that isn’t an option for every parent.

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

  • sugarglider

    I also feel that she should not have been riding the bus alone. My son goes to school out of our home district (on permit). I fully intend on driving him to school every day until he is old enough to drive himself. I could NEVER forgive myself if anything happened to my child because I didn’t do my very best to protect him. Unfortunately that is the sort of world we live in.

    It’s preferable that a child never be in a situation where the child could be abused (if impossible to fully ensure). Unfortunately, the sort of world we live in also happens to be one where that isn’t an option for every parent.

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

  • ecvmanzo

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed???? Hello reason why he was able to do what he did to this poor child. I am pretty sure that this poor baby’s parents will be extremely pleased with that piece of news. I am writing to the State of North Carolina and protesting. I can’t take this anymore…this is a disgrace!

  • ecvmanzo

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed???? Hello reason why he was able to do what he did to this poor child. I am pretty sure that this poor baby’s parents will be extremely pleased with that piece of news. I am writing to the State of North Carolina and protesting. I can’t take this anymore…this is a disgrace!

  • ecvmanzo

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed???? Hello reason why he was able to do what he did to this poor child. I am pretty sure that this poor baby’s parents will be extremely pleased with that piece of news. I am writing to the State of North Carolina and protesting. I can’t take this anymore…this is a disgrace!

  • ecvmanzo

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed???? Hello reason why he was able to do what he did to this poor child. I am pretty sure that this poor baby’s parents will be extremely pleased with that piece of news. I am writing to the State of North Carolina and protesting. I can’t take this anymore…this is a disgrace!

  • ecvmanzo

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed???? Hello reason why he was able to do what he did to this poor child. I am pretty sure that this poor baby’s parents will be extremely pleased with that piece of news. I am writing to the State of North Carolina and protesting. I can’t take this anymore…this is a disgrace!

  • Anonymous

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed????

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

  • Anonymous

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed????

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

  • Anonymous

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed????

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

  • Anonymous

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed????

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

  • sugarglider

    You know what? I am sick and fucking tired of reading this type of crap. He FAILS to register as a Sex Offender and it gets dismissed????

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

  • nadine

    NOT SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS I have said THIS EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE…… THESE people will always get off the law is not for the good people the judicial system always screws things up, this one is unbelievable and it does not surprise me at all, i have said time and time again about these BAD ASSES that the crime that they did they need done to them “Vigilante” I am so glad that the girl screamed and someone helped her though god bless her for him DIE DIE DIE

  • nadine

    NOT SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS I have said THIS EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE…… THESE people will always get off the law is not for the good people the judicial system always screws things up, this one is unbelievable and it does not surprise me at all, i have said time and time again about these BAD ASSES that the crime that they did they need done to them “Vigilante” I am so glad that the girl screamed and someone helped her though god bless her for him DIE DIE DIE

  • nadine

    NOT SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS I have said THIS EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE…… THESE people will always get off the law is not for the good people the judicial system always screws things up, this one is unbelievable and it does not surprise me at all, i have said time and time again about these BAD ASSES that the crime that they did they need done to them “Vigilante” I am so glad that the girl screamed and someone helped her though god bless her for him DIE DIE DIE

  • nadine

    NOT SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS I have said THIS EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE…… THESE people will always get off the law is not for the good people the judicial system always screws things up, this one is unbelievable and it does not surprise me at all, i have said time and time again about these BAD ASSES that the crime that they did they need done to them “Vigilante” I am so glad that the girl screamed and someone helped her though god bless her for him DIE DIE DIE

  • nadine

    NOT SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS I have said THIS EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE…… THESE people will always get off the law is not for the good people the judicial system always screws things up, this one is unbelievable and it does not surprise me at all, i have said time and time again about these BAD ASSES that the crime that they did they need done to them “Vigilante” I am so glad that the girl screamed and someone helped her though god bless her for him DIE DIE DIE

  • ecvmanzo

    sugarglider, I will be busy at work this weekend writing my letter. Screw this…We need to get involved. This sitting duck feeling is not the way I want children to continue living, or dying in most cases!

  • ecvmanzo

    sugarglider, I will be busy at work this weekend writing my letter. Screw this…We need to get involved. This sitting duck feeling is not the way I want children to continue living, or dying in most cases!

  • ecvmanzo

    sugarglider, I will be busy at work this weekend writing my letter. Screw this…We need to get involved. This sitting duck feeling is not the way I want children to continue living, or dying in most cases!

  • ecvmanzo

    sugarglider, I will be busy at work this weekend writing my letter. Screw this…We need to get involved. This sitting duck feeling is not the way I want children to continue living, or dying in most cases!

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I’m just glad that at least a few people–as shown by this story–feel that caring for a child is the responsbility of the entire community. Need more of that.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    I, also, applaud the quick actions and self-control of those fine citizens. Had I been there, it probably would have required major surgery to have my foot removed from that POS’s ass. As long as we, as citizens, keep allowing these wastes-of-skin to dance through the justice system, then fear is all we can expect.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    I, also, applaud the quick actions and self-control of those fine citizens. Had I been there, it probably would have required major surgery to have my foot removed from that POS’s ass. As long as we, as citizens, keep allowing these wastes-of-skin to dance through the justice system, then fear is all we can expect.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    I, also, applaud the quick actions and self-control of those fine citizens. Had I been there, it probably would have required major surgery to have my foot removed from that POS’s ass. As long as we, as citizens, keep allowing these wastes-of-skin to dance through the justice system, then fear is all we can expect.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    I, also, applaud the quick actions and self-control of those fine citizens. Had I been there, it probably would have required major surgery to have my foot removed from that POS’s ass. As long as we, as citizens, keep allowing these wastes-of-skin to dance through the justice system, then fear is all we can expect.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    I, also, applaud the quick actions and self-control of those fine citizens. Had I been there, it probably would have required major surgery to have my foot removed from that POS’s ass. As long as we, as citizens, keep allowing these wastes-of-skin to dance through the justice system, then fear is all we can expect.

  • nadine

    You know I am so pissed off that this had to happen for the 34thtime,who is the judge there and why so much dismissed???????? Maybe the judge should have let the S.O.B. move next door to him and then wander……. Well you know US, as citizens, do our part to help others in need. but us as citizens on the outside DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE DANCE THROUGH the justice system, can you not see by our comments that we are disgusted with the system and how it does not work in the fashion it should and we should not have to live our lives in fear, therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes such as these crimes and many many others, No saving them just execute them instead of keeping them on death row…..for what 15 years. You know I am from Erie, PA and remember the almish man named Geingrich? spelling? well he gutted his wife in his kitchen with a knife, crazy huh? obviously nuts? what sane individual would do that ? well he only served 4 years and he is out? tell me that is not something, well he used a handgun to go hunting and he is not to have any weapons so he will go back to jail for maybe a one year, that has got me so crazy that i will never understand the laws for some and then for others…. You almost hate to say that you need to take action yourself….. but I am glad the girl screamed and someone had the right mind to check out situation and help her and more than hopefully that they BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM while waiting for the cops and they should have kept him NAKED AS WELL….

  • nadine

    You know I am so pissed off that this had to happen for the 34thtime,who is the judge there and why so much dismissed???????? Maybe the judge should have let the S.O.B. move next door to him and then wander……. Well you know US, as citizens, do our part to help others in need. but us as citizens on the outside DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE DANCE THROUGH the justice system, can you not see by our comments that we are disgusted with the system and how it does not work in the fashion it should and we should not have to live our lives in fear, therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes such as these crimes and many many others, No saving them just execute them instead of keeping them on death row…..for what 15 years. You know I am from Erie, PA and remember the almish man named Geingrich? spelling? well he gutted his wife in his kitchen with a knife, crazy huh? obviously nuts? what sane individual would do that ? well he only served 4 years and he is out? tell me that is not something, well he used a handgun to go hunting and he is not to have any weapons so he will go back to jail for maybe a one year, that has got me so crazy that i will never understand the laws for some and then for others…. You almost hate to say that you need to take action yourself….. but I am glad the girl screamed and someone had the right mind to check out situation and help her and more than hopefully that they BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM while waiting for the cops and they should have kept him NAKED AS WELL….

  • nadine

    You know I am so pissed off that this had to happen for the 34thtime,who is the judge there and why so much dismissed???????? Maybe the judge should have let the S.O.B. move next door to him and then wander……. Well you know US, as citizens, do our part to help others in need. but us as citizens on the outside DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE DANCE THROUGH the justice system, can you not see by our comments that we are disgusted with the system and how it does not work in the fashion it should and we should not have to live our lives in fear, therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes such as these crimes and many many others, No saving them just execute them instead of keeping them on death row…..for what 15 years. You know I am from Erie, PA and remember the almish man named Geingrich? spelling? well he gutted his wife in his kitchen with a knife, crazy huh? obviously nuts? what sane individual would do that ? well he only served 4 years and he is out? tell me that is not something, well he used a handgun to go hunting and he is not to have any weapons so he will go back to jail for maybe a one year, that has got me so crazy that i will never understand the laws for some and then for others…. You almost hate to say that you need to take action yourself….. but I am glad the girl screamed and someone had the right mind to check out situation and help her and more than hopefully that they BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM while waiting for the cops and they should have kept him NAKED AS WELL….

  • nadine

    You know I am so pissed off that this had to happen for the 34thtime,who is the judge there and why so much dismissed???????? Maybe the judge should have let the S.O.B. move next door to him and then wander……. Well you know US, as citizens, do our part to help others in need. but us as citizens on the outside DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE DANCE THROUGH the justice system, can you not see by our comments that we are disgusted with the system and how it does not work in the fashion it should and we should not have to live our lives in fear, therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes such as these crimes and many many others, No saving them just execute them instead of keeping them on death row…..for what 15 years. You know I am from Erie, PA and remember the almish man named Geingrich? spelling? well he gutted his wife in his kitchen with a knife, crazy huh? obviously nuts? what sane individual would do that ? well he only served 4 years and he is out? tell me that is not something, well he used a handgun to go hunting and he is not to have any weapons so he will go back to jail for maybe a one year, that has got me so crazy that i will never understand the laws for some and then for others…. You almost hate to say that you need to take action yourself….. but I am glad the girl screamed and someone had the right mind to check out situation and help her and more than hopefully that they BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM while waiting for the cops and they should have kept him NAKED AS WELL….

  • Anonymous

    therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes

    Nadine, hon, us “goodhearted liberals” do NOT think rehabilitation works for sexual offenders. Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate. People I know who are against the death penalty, including myself, it’s not because we’re goodhearted. I’d love to claim that, but it’s not the reason in the least. Moreoever, we hate sexual offender scum and do want them incarcerated til the end of their days. Not to mention: if it had been me who chased this man down, as an individual I would not have been able to restrain myself too well. I’d be lucky if I wasn’t charged with manslaughter.

  • Anonymous

    therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes

    Nadine, hon, us “goodhearted liberals” do NOT think rehabilitation works for sexual offenders. Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate. People I know who are against the death penalty, including myself, it’s not because we’re goodhearted. I’d love to claim that, but it’s not the reason in the least. Moreoever, we hate sexual offender scum and do want them incarcerated til the end of their days. Not to mention: if it had been me who chased this man down, as an individual I would not have been able to restrain myself too well. I’d be lucky if I wasn’t charged with manslaughter.

  • Anonymous

    therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes

    Nadine, hon, us “goodhearted liberals” do NOT think rehabilitation works for sexual offenders. Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate. People I know who are against the death penalty, including myself, it’s not because we’re goodhearted. I’d love to claim that, but it’s not the reason in the least. Moreoever, we hate sexual offender scum and do want them incarcerated til the end of their days. Not to mention: if it had been me who chased this man down, as an individual I would not have been able to restrain myself too well. I’d be lucky if I wasn’t charged with manslaughter.

  • Anonymous

    therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes

    Nadine, hon, us “goodhearted liberals” do NOT think rehabilitation works for sexual offenders. Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate. People I know who are against the death penalty, including myself, it’s not because we’re goodhearted. I’d love to claim that, but it’s not the reason in the least. Moreoever, we hate sexual offender scum and do want them incarcerated til the end of their days. Not to mention: if it had been me who chased this man down, as an individual I would not have been able to restrain myself too well. I’d be lucky if I wasn’t charged with manslaughter.

  • sugarglider

    therefore the GOOD HEARTED LIBERALS that think rehabilitation will work they are the ones NUTS and trying to save these pieces of waste….. I say God left something out between the ears on these assholes so in saying that i feel they should all be DEAD for crimes

    Nadine, hon, us “goodhearted liberals” do NOT think rehabilitation works for sexual offenders. Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate. People I know who are against the death penalty, including myself, it’s not because we’re goodhearted. I’d love to claim that, but it’s not the reason in the least. Moreoever, we hate sexual offender scum and do want them incarcerated til the end of their days. Not to mention: if it had been me who chased this man down, as an individual I would not have been able to restrain myself too well. I’d be lucky if I wasn’t charged with manslaughter.

  • Lilbay

    Are you kidding me with this. Oh my heavens i can not believe this jack ass was never given any real time. That is just Nuts. People need to start a letter campaign and see to it that this time they hold this POS accountable and he does REAL time He has open charges along with these so add them all up and toss him in and forget the damn key This is a seriously violent career criminal. I pray he does not play the I have an addiction i need a rehab card and get out earlier or whatever As i am Betting he has p[played that card numerous times in the past which Pisses me off I can relate to addicts getting a chance to get clean but come on If they have violent acts in any past charges than Sorry you do your time and at the end of that time We will help you get into rehab if you like AFTER you do the time NOT in place of it. This guy though has likely played that card many times so i say toss his as in and keep him there for the WHOLE time. No parole No rehab No bootcamps none of that early release crap for him.
    I do not know what kidnapping and rape carry in NC but I hope they give all of it to him.

  • Lilbay

    Are you kidding me with this. Oh my heavens i can not believe this jack ass was never given any real time. That is just Nuts. People need to start a letter campaign and see to it that this time they hold this POS accountable and he does REAL time He has open charges along with these so add them all up and toss him in and forget the damn key This is a seriously violent career criminal. I pray he does not play the I have an addiction i need a rehab card and get out earlier or whatever As i am Betting he has p[played that card numerous times in the past which Pisses me off I can relate to addicts getting a chance to get clean but come on If they have violent acts in any past charges than Sorry you do your time and at the end of that time We will help you get into rehab if you like AFTER you do the time NOT in place of it. This guy though has likely played that card many times so i say toss his as in and keep him there for the WHOLE time. No parole No rehab No bootcamps none of that early release crap for him.
    I do not know what kidnapping and rape carry in NC but I hope they give all of it to him.

  • Lilbay

    Are you kidding me with this. Oh my heavens i can not believe this jack ass was never given any real time. That is just Nuts. People need to start a letter campaign and see to it that this time they hold this POS accountable and he does REAL time He has open charges along with these so add them all up and toss him in and forget the damn key This is a seriously violent career criminal. I pray he does not play the I have an addiction i need a rehab card and get out earlier or whatever As i am Betting he has p[played that card numerous times in the past which Pisses me off I can relate to addicts getting a chance to get clean but come on If they have violent acts in any past charges than Sorry you do your time and at the end of that time We will help you get into rehab if you like AFTER you do the time NOT in place of it. This guy though has likely played that card many times so i say toss his as in and keep him there for the WHOLE time. No parole No rehab No bootcamps none of that early release crap for him.
    I do not know what kidnapping and rape carry in NC but I hope they give all of it to him.

  • Lilbay

    Are you kidding me with this. Oh my heavens i can not believe this jack ass was never given any real time. That is just Nuts. People need to start a letter campaign and see to it that this time they hold this POS accountable and he does REAL time He has open charges along with these so add them all up and toss him in and forget the damn key This is a seriously violent career criminal. I pray he does not play the I have an addiction i need a rehab card and get out earlier or whatever As i am Betting he has p[played that card numerous times in the past which Pisses me off I can relate to addicts getting a chance to get clean but come on If they have violent acts in any past charges than Sorry you do your time and at the end of that time We will help you get into rehab if you like AFTER you do the time NOT in place of it. This guy though has likely played that card many times so i say toss his as in and keep him there for the WHOLE time. No parole No rehab No bootcamps none of that early release crap for him.
    I do not know what kidnapping and rape carry in NC but I hope they give all of it to him.

  • Lilbay

    Are you kidding me with this. Oh my heavens i can not believe this jack ass was never given any real time. That is just Nuts. People need to start a letter campaign and see to it that this time they hold this POS accountable and he does REAL time He has open charges along with these so add them all up and toss him in and forget the damn key This is a seriously violent career criminal. I pray he does not play the I have an addiction i need a rehab card and get out earlier or whatever As i am Betting he has p[played that card numerous times in the past which Pisses me off I can relate to addicts getting a chance to get clean but come on If they have violent acts in any past charges than Sorry you do your time and at the end of that time We will help you get into rehab if you like AFTER you do the time NOT in place of it. This guy though has likely played that card many times so i say toss his as in and keep him there for the WHOLE time. No parole No rehab No bootcamps none of that early release crap for him.
    I do not know what kidnapping and rape carry in NC but I hope they give all of it to him.

  • mm_classy

    You know what makes me sick is to think that IF any of the people that got him and returned him to the scene, would have kicked the shit out of him, they probably would have been hit with assult charges and ended up doing more time than he has for all of his crimes combined!!

    We have a majorly fucked up system.

  • mm_classy

    You know what makes me sick is to think that IF any of the people that got him and returned him to the scene, would have kicked the shit out of him, they probably would have been hit with assult charges and ended up doing more time than he has for all of his crimes combined!!

    We have a majorly fucked up system.

  • mm_classy

    You know what makes me sick is to think that IF any of the people that got him and returned him to the scene, would have kicked the shit out of him, they probably would have been hit with assult charges and ended up doing more time than he has for all of his crimes combined!!

    We have a majorly fucked up system.

  • mm_classy

    You know what makes me sick is to think that IF any of the people that got him and returned him to the scene, would have kicked the shit out of him, they probably would have been hit with assult charges and ended up doing more time than he has for all of his crimes combined!!

    We have a majorly fucked up system.

  • mm_classy

    You know what makes me sick is to think that IF any of the people that got him and returned him to the scene, would have kicked the shit out of him, they probably would have been hit with assult charges and ended up doing more time than he has for all of his crimes combined!!

    We have a majorly fucked up system.

  • mm_classy

    You know what makes me sick is to think that IF any of the people that got him and returned him to the scene, would have kicked the shit out of him, they probably would have been hit with assult charges and ended up doing more time than he has for all of his crimes combined!!

    We have a majorly fucked up system.

  • Castille

    Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate.

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    That said, on the bus thing – I assume I can ride a bus without being raped. I would also assume my daughter could as well. School districts generally allow you to finish out the school year at your current school should you move in the middle (you know, for continuity in education and all that,) quite aside from any private school, charter school, or paying to go to an alternate public school. Old enough to ride a public bus to me means old enough to navigate the routes and schedules, handle the money for fare, and be able to problem solve sufficiently to get home, and contact others, should you inadvertantly get on the wrong bus or miss one. While I weigh risk, buses are ordinarily safe enough, and most of us don’t constrain all basic aspects of our lives based on the off chance we might encounter a predatory person. I’m fairly confidant my teen is in more danger behind the wheel of her car than on the city bus. Someone can throw out some statistics there if they really think I’m wrong.

  • Castille

    Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate.

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    That said, on the bus thing – I assume I can ride a bus without being raped. I would also assume my daughter could as well. School districts generally allow you to finish out the school year at your current school should you move in the middle (you know, for continuity in education and all that,) quite aside from any private school, charter school, or paying to go to an alternate public school. Old enough to ride a public bus to me means old enough to navigate the routes and schedules, handle the money for fare, and be able to problem solve sufficiently to get home, and contact others, should you inadvertantly get on the wrong bus or miss one. While I weigh risk, buses are ordinarily safe enough, and most of us don’t constrain all basic aspects of our lives based on the off chance we might encounter a predatory person. I’m fairly confidant my teen is in more danger behind the wheel of her car than on the city bus. Someone can throw out some statistics there if they really think I’m wrong.

  • Castille

    Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate.

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    That said, on the bus thing – I assume I can ride a bus without being raped. I would also assume my daughter could as well. School districts generally allow you to finish out the school year at your current school should you move in the middle (you know, for continuity in education and all that,) quite aside from any private school, charter school, or paying to go to an alternate public school. Old enough to ride a public bus to me means old enough to navigate the routes and schedules, handle the money for fare, and be able to problem solve sufficiently to get home, and contact others, should you inadvertantly get on the wrong bus or miss one. While I weigh risk, buses are ordinarily safe enough, and most of us don’t constrain all basic aspects of our lives based on the off chance we might encounter a predatory person. I’m fairly confidant my teen is in more danger behind the wheel of her car than on the city bus. Someone can throw out some statistics there if they really think I’m wrong.

  • Castille

    Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate.

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    That said, on the bus thing – I assume I can ride a bus without being raped. I would also assume my daughter could as well. School districts generally allow you to finish out the school year at your current school should you move in the middle (you know, for continuity in education and all that,) quite aside from any private school, charter school, or paying to go to an alternate public school. Old enough to ride a public bus to me means old enough to navigate the routes and schedules, handle the money for fare, and be able to problem solve sufficiently to get home, and contact others, should you inadvertantly get on the wrong bus or miss one. While I weigh risk, buses are ordinarily safe enough, and most of us don’t constrain all basic aspects of our lives based on the off chance we might encounter a predatory person. I’m fairly confidant my teen is in more danger behind the wheel of her car than on the city bus. Someone can throw out some statistics there if they really think I’m wrong.

  • Castille

    Sexual offenders have an almost 100% recidivism rate.

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    That said, on the bus thing – I assume I can ride a bus without being raped. I would also assume my daughter could as well. School districts generally allow you to finish out the school year at your current school should you move in the middle (you know, for continuity in education and all that,) quite aside from any private school, charter school, or paying to go to an alternate public school. Old enough to ride a public bus to me means old enough to navigate the routes and schedules, handle the money for fare, and be able to problem solve sufficiently to get home, and contact others, should you inadvertantly get on the wrong bus or miss one. While I weigh risk, buses are ordinarily safe enough, and most of us don’t constrain all basic aspects of our lives based on the off chance we might encounter a predatory person. I’m fairly confidant my teen is in more danger behind the wheel of her car than on the city bus. Someone can throw out some statistics there if they really think I’m wrong.

  • Senna

    Oh, yeah. This pisses me off. That scumbag should NOT have been on the streets. I think the criminal “justice” system is as much to blame for what happened to this 12-year-old. Because of it, a dangerous predator was free to do as he wished.

    On the other hand, I am very glad to hear that bystanders chased the bastard down and caught him so that he can be held accountable. For whatever that’s worth. If past action (incation?) shows us anything, it’s that he’ll be given a slap on the wrist and be out to victimize society in a couple of months.

    As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there. Not because of danger, but because of time constraints. It’s hard enough for a young person to get out of bed and take a school bus every morning, let alone take two city buses to catch the school bus. When I was younger, the school in my neighbor was bad. Kids got robbed by other kids at knifepoint and there was nothing the teachers or anyone were willing to do about it. So my parents got permission from friends who lived near a good school to use their address. My brother and I did not have to go bus hopping to get there. If we had, we would have had to wake up at 3am just to get to school and then we would have gotten home from school by 8pm. Certainly not enough time to do homework, eat, shower or sleep. So our parents drove us to and from school every day. The girl’s busing situation reminded me of that. I’m in no way, shape or form blaming this girl’s parents for what happened–it wasn’t their fault.

    When it comes down to it, it’s really not asking too much to not be raped while riding the city bus. It’s sad, but anyone can be preyed upon, regardless of age or location. I’m a 30 year old mother and I was victimized by a predator recently. It was in broad daylight on a busy street while I was walking home from the hospital (where was son was being cared for.) A man started following me and tried to force me into his van. So anyone can be a victim–the risk doesn’t go away when you hit 18.

  • Senna

    Oh, yeah. This pisses me off. That scumbag should NOT have been on the streets. I think the criminal “justice” system is as much to blame for what happened to this 12-year-old. Because of it, a dangerous predator was free to do as he wished.

    On the other hand, I am very glad to hear that bystanders chased the bastard down and caught him so that he can be held accountable. For whatever that’s worth. If past action (incation?) shows us anything, it’s that he’ll be given a slap on the wrist and be out to victimize society in a couple of months.

    As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there. Not because of danger, but because of time constraints. It’s hard enough for a young person to get out of bed and take a school bus every morning, let alone take two city buses to catch the school bus. When I was younger, the school in my neighbor was bad. Kids got robbed by other kids at knifepoint and there was nothing the teachers or anyone were willing to do about it. So my parents got permission from friends who lived near a good school to use their address. My brother and I did not have to go bus hopping to get there. If we had, we would have had to wake up at 3am just to get to school and then we would have gotten home from school by 8pm. Certainly not enough time to do homework, eat, shower or sleep. So our parents drove us to and from school every day. The girl’s busing situation reminded me of that. I’m in no way, shape or form blaming this girl’s parents for what happened–it wasn’t their fault.

    When it comes down to it, it’s really not asking too much to not be raped while riding the city bus. It’s sad, but anyone can be preyed upon, regardless of age or location. I’m a 30 year old mother and I was victimized by a predator recently. It was in broad daylight on a busy street while I was walking home from the hospital (where was son was being cared for.) A man started following me and tried to force me into his van. So anyone can be a victim–the risk doesn’t go away when you hit 18.

  • Senna

    Oh, yeah. This pisses me off. That scumbag should NOT have been on the streets. I think the criminal “justice” system is as much to blame for what happened to this 12-year-old. Because of it, a dangerous predator was free to do as he wished.

    On the other hand, I am very glad to hear that bystanders chased the bastard down and caught him so that he can be held accountable. For whatever that’s worth. If past action (incation?) shows us anything, it’s that he’ll be given a slap on the wrist and be out to victimize society in a couple of months.

    As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there. Not because of danger, but because of time constraints. It’s hard enough for a young person to get out of bed and take a school bus every morning, let alone take two city buses to catch the school bus. When I was younger, the school in my neighbor was bad. Kids got robbed by other kids at knifepoint and there was nothing the teachers or anyone were willing to do about it. So my parents got permission from friends who lived near a good school to use their address. My brother and I did not have to go bus hopping to get there. If we had, we would have had to wake up at 3am just to get to school and then we would have gotten home from school by 8pm. Certainly not enough time to do homework, eat, shower or sleep. So our parents drove us to and from school every day. The girl’s busing situation reminded me of that. I’m in no way, shape or form blaming this girl’s parents for what happened–it wasn’t their fault.

    When it comes down to it, it’s really not asking too much to not be raped while riding the city bus. It’s sad, but anyone can be preyed upon, regardless of age or location. I’m a 30 year old mother and I was victimized by a predator recently. It was in broad daylight on a busy street while I was walking home from the hospital (where was son was being cared for.) A man started following me and tried to force me into his van. So anyone can be a victim–the risk doesn’t go away when you hit 18.

  • Senna

    Oh, yeah. This pisses me off. That scumbag should NOT have been on the streets. I think the criminal “justice” system is as much to blame for what happened to this 12-year-old. Because of it, a dangerous predator was free to do as he wished.

    On the other hand, I am very glad to hear that bystanders chased the bastard down and caught him so that he can be held accountable. For whatever that’s worth. If past action (incation?) shows us anything, it’s that he’ll be given a slap on the wrist and be out to victimize society in a couple of months.

    As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there. Not because of danger, but because of time constraints. It’s hard enough for a young person to get out of bed and take a school bus every morning, let alone take two city buses to catch the school bus. When I was younger, the school in my neighbor was bad. Kids got robbed by other kids at knifepoint and there was nothing the teachers or anyone were willing to do about it. So my parents got permission from friends who lived near a good school to use their address. My brother and I did not have to go bus hopping to get there. If we had, we would have had to wake up at 3am just to get to school and then we would have gotten home from school by 8pm. Certainly not enough time to do homework, eat, shower or sleep. So our parents drove us to and from school every day. The girl’s busing situation reminded me of that. I’m in no way, shape or form blaming this girl’s parents for what happened–it wasn’t their fault.

    When it comes down to it, it’s really not asking too much to not be raped while riding the city bus. It’s sad, but anyone can be preyed upon, regardless of age or location. I’m a 30 year old mother and I was victimized by a predator recently. It was in broad daylight on a busy street while I was walking home from the hospital (where was son was being cared for.) A man started following me and tried to force me into his van. So anyone can be a victim–the risk doesn’t go away when you hit 18.

  • Senna

    Oh, yeah. This pisses me off. That scumbag should NOT have been on the streets. I think the criminal “justice” system is as much to blame for what happened to this 12-year-old. Because of it, a dangerous predator was free to do as he wished.

    On the other hand, I am very glad to hear that bystanders chased the bastard down and caught him so that he can be held accountable. For whatever that’s worth. If past action (incation?) shows us anything, it’s that he’ll be given a slap on the wrist and be out to victimize society in a couple of months.

    As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there. Not because of danger, but because of time constraints. It’s hard enough for a young person to get out of bed and take a school bus every morning, let alone take two city buses to catch the school bus. When I was younger, the school in my neighbor was bad. Kids got robbed by other kids at knifepoint and there was nothing the teachers or anyone were willing to do about it. So my parents got permission from friends who lived near a good school to use their address. My brother and I did not have to go bus hopping to get there. If we had, we would have had to wake up at 3am just to get to school and then we would have gotten home from school by 8pm. Certainly not enough time to do homework, eat, shower or sleep. So our parents drove us to and from school every day. The girl’s busing situation reminded me of that. I’m in no way, shape or form blaming this girl’s parents for what happened–it wasn’t their fault.

    When it comes down to it, it’s really not asking too much to not be raped while riding the city bus. It’s sad, but anyone can be preyed upon, regardless of age or location. I’m a 30 year old mother and I was victimized by a predator recently. It was in broad daylight on a busy street while I was walking home from the hospital (where was son was being cared for.) A man started following me and tried to force me into his van. So anyone can be a victim–the risk doesn’t go away when you hit 18.

  • Anonymous

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    Hi, Castille. That’s interesting. I got my info from my undergraduate minor in Psychology, which just just barely short of a double major. No offense, but I’m comfortably saying that you’re 100% wrong. (Maybe because whatever studies you’ve seen have taken the erroneous approach that recidivism and incarceration have a perfect correlation or something, I don’t know.)

    Since you asked, here’s some nuanced info. Note: there’s much more stridently worded info available, but this is a pretty sophisticated summary of an in-depth meta-analysis. It comes from the website from the US Dept of Justice’s Center for Sexual Offender Management:

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    Castille, did you read the last clause of the last sentence there? Okay. Well. Before pointing out that over time the rate increases, you have to also factor in the fact that RECIDIVISM RATES are based on REARREST RATES, and:

    “Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities. (No current studies indicate the rate of reporting for child sexual assault, although it is generally assumed that these assaults are equally underreported.)”

    Hence, if recividism rates are between 36.9 and 46.2 % based on rearrest rates, and if only 1 out of 3 assaults is even reported, well, you can do the math.

  • Anonymous

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    Hi, Castille. That’s interesting. I got my info from my undergraduate minor in Psychology, which just just barely short of a double major. No offense, but I’m comfortably saying that you’re 100% wrong. (Maybe because whatever studies you’ve seen have taken the erroneous approach that recidivism and incarceration have a perfect correlation or something, I don’t know.)

    Since you asked, here’s some nuanced info. Note: there’s much more stridently worded info available, but this is a pretty sophisticated summary of an in-depth meta-analysis. It comes from the website from the US Dept of Justice’s Center for Sexual Offender Management:

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    Castille, did you read the last clause of the last sentence there? Okay. Well. Before pointing out that over time the rate increases, you have to also factor in the fact that RECIDIVISM RATES are based on REARREST RATES, and:

    “Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities. (No current studies indicate the rate of reporting for child sexual assault, although it is generally assumed that these assaults are equally underreported.)”

    Hence, if recividism rates are between 36.9 and 46.2 % based on rearrest rates, and if only 1 out of 3 assaults is even reported, well, you can do the math.

  • Anonymous

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    Hi, Castille. That’s interesting. I got my info from my undergraduate minor in Psychology, which just just barely short of a double major. No offense, but I’m comfortably saying that you’re 100% wrong. (Maybe because whatever studies you’ve seen have taken the erroneous approach that recidivism and incarceration have a perfect correlation or something, I don’t know.)

    Since you asked, here’s some nuanced info. Note: there’s much more stridently worded info available, but this is a pretty sophisticated summary of an in-depth meta-analysis. It comes from the website from the US Dept of Justice’s Center for Sexual Offender Management:

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    Castille, did you read the last clause of the last sentence there? Okay. Well. Before pointing out that over time the rate increases, you have to also factor in the fact that RECIDIVISM RATES are based on REARREST RATES, and:

    “Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities. (No current studies indicate the rate of reporting for child sexual assault, although it is generally assumed that these assaults are equally underreported.)”

    Hence, if recividism rates are between 36.9 and 46.2 % based on rearrest rates, and if only 1 out of 3 assaults is even reported, well, you can do the math.

  • Anonymous

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    Hi, Castille. That’s interesting. I got my info from my undergraduate minor in Psychology, which just just barely short of a double major. No offense, but I’m comfortably saying that you’re 100% wrong. (Maybe because whatever studies you’ve seen have taken the erroneous approach that recidivism and incarceration have a perfect correlation or something, I don’t know.)

    Since you asked, here’s some nuanced info. Note: there’s much more stridently worded info available, but this is a pretty sophisticated summary of an in-depth meta-analysis. It comes from the website from the US Dept of Justice’s Center for Sexual Offender Management:

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    Castille, did you read the last clause of the last sentence there? Okay. Well. Before pointing out that over time the rate increases, you have to also factor in the fact that RECIDIVISM RATES are based on REARREST RATES, and:

    “Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities. (No current studies indicate the rate of reporting for child sexual assault, although it is generally assumed that these assaults are equally underreported.)”

    Hence, if recividism rates are between 36.9 and 46.2 % based on rearrest rates, and if only 1 out of 3 assaults is even reported, well, you can do the math.

  • Anonymous

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    Hi, Castille. That’s interesting. I got my info from my undergraduate minor in Psychology, which just just barely short of a double major. No offense, but I’m comfortably saying that you’re 100% wrong. (Maybe because whatever studies you’ve seen have taken the erroneous approach that recidivism and incarceration have a perfect correlation or something, I don’t know.)

    Since you asked, here’s some nuanced info. Note: there’s much more stridently worded info available, but this is a pretty sophisticated summary of an in-depth meta-analysis. It comes from the website from the US Dept of Justice’s Center for Sexual Offender Management:

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    Castille, did you read the last clause of the last sentence there? Okay. Well. Before pointing out that over time the rate increases, you have to also factor in the fact that RECIDIVISM RATES are based on REARREST RATES, and:

    “Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities. (No current studies indicate the rate of reporting for child sexual assault, although it is generally assumed that these assaults are equally underreported.)”

    Hence, if recividism rates are between 36.9 and 46.2 % based on rearrest rates, and if only 1 out of 3 assaults is even reported, well, you can do the math.

  • sugarglider

    Where on earth do you get this? Sex offender recidivism is like 3-5% based on the studies I’ve seen, and statistically they’re less likely to reoffend than other criminals (probably because we don’t go letting serial offenders out of prison much.)

    Hi, Castille. That’s interesting. I got my info from my undergraduate minor in Psychology, which just just barely short of a double major. No offense, but I’m comfortably saying that you’re 100% wrong. (Maybe because whatever studies you’ve seen have taken the erroneous approach that recidivism and incarceration have a perfect correlation or something, I don’t know.)

    Since you asked, here’s some nuanced info. Note: there’s much more stridently worded info available, but this is a pretty sophisticated summary of an in-depth meta-analysis. It comes from the website from the US Dept of Justice’s Center for Sexual Offender Management:

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    Castille, did you read the last clause of the last sentence there? Okay. Well. Before pointing out that over time the rate increases, you have to also factor in the fact that RECIDIVISM RATES are based on REARREST RATES, and:

    “Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities. (No current studies indicate the rate of reporting for child sexual assault, although it is generally assumed that these assaults are equally underreported.)”

    Hence, if recividism rates are between 36.9 and 46.2 % based on rearrest rates, and if only 1 out of 3 assaults is even reported, well, you can do the math.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    That liberal nonsense is crap. I am a liberal and I know that pedophiles can not be rehabilitated. It is *possible* for them to be scared enough of prison to not re-offend, however, I know that it is extremely more probable that they will hurt someone else. I don’t get why every single issue has to be a party line issue. Not directing that specifically at you as I can’t ever remember you calling on that before; I just think that drawing lines in the sand is not going to get much accomplished in changing the system to protect citizens better. Remember, conservatives have been in power for eight years and what has changed for the better? It has little to do with party lines or the last eight years would have brought changes to our justice system to prevent this kind of thing.

    I think the bus issue is crap, too. Boy I guess I’m combative today, ha. When I was 12 I rode the bus, from our apartment next to USF, to the mall and back all the time. Parents are not negligent in sending their kids on a city bus at that age, come on. Especially on their way to school. Maybe they moved to a dangerous neighborhood and they wanted her to stay at a better school or a safer school, or maybe it had some special programs not available at her old school, or maybe the move was temporary. Jeez, it doesn’t matter. The bottom line is she was minding her own business, and this fuckwad attacked her. End of story. Direct the rage where it belongs-at a perp who makes a career of hurting others and a system who allowed his the freedom to do so.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    That liberal nonsense is crap. I am a liberal and I know that pedophiles can not be rehabilitated. It is *possible* for them to be scared enough of prison to not re-offend, however, I know that it is extremely more probable that they will hurt someone else. I don’t get why every single issue has to be a party line issue. Not directing that specifically at you as I can’t ever remember you calling on that before; I just think that drawing lines in the sand is not going to get much accomplished in changing the system to protect citizens better. Remember, conservatives have been in power for eight years and what has changed for the better? It has little to do with party lines or the last eight years would have brought changes to our justice system to prevent this kind of thing.

    I think the bus issue is crap, too. Boy I guess I’m combative today, ha. When I was 12 I rode the bus, from our apartment next to USF, to the mall and back all the time. Parents are not negligent in sending their kids on a city bus at that age, come on. Especially on their way to school. Maybe they moved to a dangerous neighborhood and they wanted her to stay at a better school or a safer school, or maybe it had some special programs not available at her old school, or maybe the move was temporary. Jeez, it doesn’t matter. The bottom line is she was minding her own business, and this fuckwad attacked her. End of story. Direct the rage where it belongs-at a perp who makes a career of hurting others and a system who allowed his the freedom to do so.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com CheekySweetie

    That liberal nonsense is crap. I am a liberal and I know that pedophiles can not be rehabilitated. It is *possible* for them to be scared enough of prison to not re-offend, however, I know that it is extremely more probable that they will hurt someone else. I don’t get why every single issue has to be a party line issue. Not directing that specifically at you as I can’t ever remember you calling on that before; I just think that drawing lines in the sand is not going to get much accomplished in changing the system to protect citizens better. Remember, conservatives have been in power for eight years and what has changed for the better? It has little to do with party lines or the last eight years would have brought changes to our justice system to prevent this kind of thing.

    I think the bus issue is crap, too. Boy I guess I’m combative today, ha. When I was 12 I rode the bus, from our apartment next to USF, to the mall and back all the time. Parents are not negligent in sending their kids on a city bus at that age, come on. Especially on their way to school. Maybe they moved to a dangerous neighborhood and they wanted her to stay at a better school or a safer school, or maybe it had some special programs not available at her old school, or maybe the move was temporary. Jeez, it doesn’t matter. The bottom line is she was minding her own business, and this fuckwad attacked her. End of story. Direct the rage where it belongs-at a perp who makes a career of hurting others and a system who allowed his the freedom to do so.

  • Anonymous

    Senna said, “As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there.”

    Assuming they didn’t have to be at work at that time, they would also have to have a car. Not saying they didn’t, but I know we didn’t have a car. Lots of times when you live in a big city, you don’t have one. It’s not an affordability issue, just a practicality issue, especially if the public transportation system is decent.

    Two of my best friends (one from Toronto, one from Manhattan) didn’t get their licenses til they were in their 30s. No one drives in Manhattan except for cabbies. If you’ve ever been there, you can see why. And Charlotte has one of the very worst traffic situations in the country. True dat.

  • Anonymous

    Senna said, “As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there.”

    Assuming they didn’t have to be at work at that time, they would also have to have a car. Not saying they didn’t, but I know we didn’t have a car. Lots of times when you live in a big city, you don’t have one. It’s not an affordability issue, just a practicality issue, especially if the public transportation system is decent.

    Two of my best friends (one from Toronto, one from Manhattan) didn’t get their licenses til they were in their 30s. No one drives in Manhattan except for cabbies. If you’ve ever been there, you can see why. And Charlotte has one of the very worst traffic situations in the country. True dat.

  • Anonymous

    Senna said, “As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there.”

    Assuming they didn’t have to be at work at that time, they would also have to have a car. Not saying they didn’t, but I know we didn’t have a car. Lots of times when you live in a big city, you don’t have one. It’s not an affordability issue, just a practicality issue, especially if the public transportation system is decent.

    Two of my best friends (one from Toronto, one from Manhattan) didn’t get their licenses til they were in their 30s. No one drives in Manhattan except for cabbies. If you’ve ever been there, you can see why. And Charlotte has one of the very worst traffic situations in the country. True dat.

  • Anonymous

    Senna said, “As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there.”

    Assuming they didn’t have to be at work at that time, they would also have to have a car. Not saying they didn’t, but I know we didn’t have a car. Lots of times when you live in a big city, you don’t have one. It’s not an affordability issue, just a practicality issue, especially if the public transportation system is decent.

    Two of my best friends (one from Toronto, one from Manhattan) didn’t get their licenses til they were in their 30s. No one drives in Manhattan except for cabbies. If you’ve ever been there, you can see why. And Charlotte has one of the very worst traffic situations in the country. True dat.

  • sugarglider

    Senna said, “As for the girl going to school in her old neighborhood, I think that perhaps her parents should have been driving her there.”

    Assuming they didn’t have to be at work at that time, they would also have to have a car. Not saying they didn’t, but I know we didn’t have a car. Lots of times when you live in a big city, you don’t have one. It’s not an affordability issue, just a practicality issue, especially if the public transportation system is decent.

    Two of my best friends (one from Toronto, one from Manhattan) didn’t get their licenses til they were in their 30s. No one drives in Manhattan except for cabbies. If you’ve ever been there, you can see why. And Charlotte has one of the very worst traffic situations in the country. True dat.

  • WryBread

    I found that doing anything unusual in the city eventually could attract trouble. I had a job I had to quit because I realized that walking through the streets at 5 am, even if I was keeping close to the stores that were open might eventually attract notice and set me up for some predator. In fact, my attacker might come out of one of those stores! It’s a crap shoot and I’m sorry this little girl lost the game. I’m sure in a safe and decent world she was quite capable of riding the bus safely. But she ran into a pervert. I have a feeling whoever is raising her made the best decision that could be made in the situation. In the city it is hard to find a good school and sometimes difficult to get there.

    I think it’s the judges who are out of touch. Where I used to live there was a woman who was known for letting everyone off lightly, yeah, she was a liberal, but the problem was that she lived in the insulated bubble of being highly paid and well known in the city. One night she got out of her car, left it running and the door wide open, so she could buy a newspaper from a news stand. Well, guess what? Her car was stolen and the entire city laughed at her. She became very harsh on offenders. Funny how experience is a teacher.

  • WryBread

    I found that doing anything unusual in the city eventually could attract trouble. I had a job I had to quit because I realized that walking through the streets at 5 am, even if I was keeping close to the stores that were open might eventually attract notice and set me up for some predator. In fact, my attacker might come out of one of those stores! It’s a crap shoot and I’m sorry this little girl lost the game. I’m sure in a safe and decent world she was quite capable of riding the bus safely. But she ran into a pervert. I have a feeling whoever is raising her made the best decision that could be made in the situation. In the city it is hard to find a good school and sometimes difficult to get there.

    I think it’s the judges who are out of touch. Where I used to live there was a woman who was known for letting everyone off lightly, yeah, she was a liberal, but the problem was that she lived in the insulated bubble of being highly paid and well known in the city. One night she got out of her car, left it running and the door wide open, so she could buy a newspaper from a news stand. Well, guess what? Her car was stolen and the entire city laughed at her. She became very harsh on offenders. Funny how experience is a teacher.

  • WryBread

    I found that doing anything unusual in the city eventually could attract trouble. I had a job I had to quit because I realized that walking through the streets at 5 am, even if I was keeping close to the stores that were open might eventually attract notice and set me up for some predator. In fact, my attacker might come out of one of those stores! It’s a crap shoot and I’m sorry this little girl lost the game. I’m sure in a safe and decent world she was quite capable of riding the bus safely. But she ran into a pervert. I have a feeling whoever is raising her made the best decision that could be made in the situation. In the city it is hard to find a good school and sometimes difficult to get there.

    I think it’s the judges who are out of touch. Where I used to live there was a woman who was known for letting everyone off lightly, yeah, she was a liberal, but the problem was that she lived in the insulated bubble of being highly paid and well known in the city. One night she got out of her car, left it running and the door wide open, so she could buy a newspaper from a news stand. Well, guess what? Her car was stolen and the entire city laughed at her. She became very harsh on offenders. Funny how experience is a teacher.

  • WryBread

    I found that doing anything unusual in the city eventually could attract trouble. I had a job I had to quit because I realized that walking through the streets at 5 am, even if I was keeping close to the stores that were open might eventually attract notice and set me up for some predator. In fact, my attacker might come out of one of those stores! It’s a crap shoot and I’m sorry this little girl lost the game. I’m sure in a safe and decent world she was quite capable of riding the bus safely. But she ran into a pervert. I have a feeling whoever is raising her made the best decision that could be made in the situation. In the city it is hard to find a good school and sometimes difficult to get there.

    I think it’s the judges who are out of touch. Where I used to live there was a woman who was known for letting everyone off lightly, yeah, she was a liberal, but the problem was that she lived in the insulated bubble of being highly paid and well known in the city. One night she got out of her car, left it running and the door wide open, so she could buy a newspaper from a news stand. Well, guess what? Her car was stolen and the entire city laughed at her. She became very harsh on offenders. Funny how experience is a teacher.

  • WryBread

    I found that doing anything unusual in the city eventually could attract trouble. I had a job I had to quit because I realized that walking through the streets at 5 am, even if I was keeping close to the stores that were open might eventually attract notice and set me up for some predator. In fact, my attacker might come out of one of those stores! It’s a crap shoot and I’m sorry this little girl lost the game. I’m sure in a safe and decent world she was quite capable of riding the bus safely. But she ran into a pervert. I have a feeling whoever is raising her made the best decision that could be made in the situation. In the city it is hard to find a good school and sometimes difficult to get there.

    I think it’s the judges who are out of touch. Where I used to live there was a woman who was known for letting everyone off lightly, yeah, she was a liberal, but the problem was that she lived in the insulated bubble of being highly paid and well known in the city. One night she got out of her car, left it running and the door wide open, so she could buy a newspaper from a news stand. Well, guess what? Her car was stolen and the entire city laughed at her. She became very harsh on offenders. Funny how experience is a teacher.

  • WryBread

    I found that doing anything unusual in the city eventually could attract trouble. I had a job I had to quit because I realized that walking through the streets at 5 am, even if I was keeping close to the stores that were open might eventually attract notice and set me up for some predator. In fact, my attacker might come out of one of those stores! It’s a crap shoot and I’m sorry this little girl lost the game. I’m sure in a safe and decent world she was quite capable of riding the bus safely. But she ran into a pervert. I have a feeling whoever is raising her made the best decision that could be made in the situation. In the city it is hard to find a good school and sometimes difficult to get there.

    I think it’s the judges who are out of touch. Where I used to live there was a woman who was known for letting everyone off lightly, yeah, she was a liberal, but the problem was that she lived in the insulated bubble of being highly paid and well known in the city. One night she got out of her car, left it running and the door wide open, so she could buy a newspaper from a news stand. Well, guess what? Her car was stolen and the entire city laughed at her. She became very harsh on offenders. Funny how experience is a teacher.

  • Anonymous

    It will be easy for his cellmates to hold him down by his braids.

  • Anonymous

    It will be easy for his cellmates to hold him down by his braids.

  • Anonymous

    It will be easy for his cellmates to hold him down by his braids.

  • Anonymous

    It will be easy for his cellmates to hold him down by his braids.

  • Anonymous

    It will be easy for his cellmates to hold him down by his braids.

  • sugarglider

    It will be easy for his cellmates to hold him down by his braids.

  • Castille

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    To be fair, I had sexual recidivism in mind, rather than any reoffense, the average for which in that meta analysis you cited was 13.4% for all sex offenders rather than the 36.3% for all reoffenses (which probably underlines the recidivism rates for sex offenders are still slightly lower than for the general criminal population.) And while we can assume the 13% is an underestimate due to under reporting, that analysis involved studies using different methods to assess recidivism – those arrests and convictions, as well as self-reporting. You cite the only 1 in 3 reported statistic, but there’s no indication those were anyone’s reoffenses rather than an initial offense. There isn’t any math where we can extrapolate anything near 100% from these numbers. So maybe I’m wrong, but you’re not right either. It’s a difficult subject. I think it *is* safe to say most released sex offenders don’t go on to rape again. But that one that does? Who may even kill a child? How deeply does that injure a community with all the woulda shoulda couldas. I don’t pretend to have the answers to that. I think it’s clear Mr. 34 here shouldn’t have been walking the streets.

  • Castille

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    To be fair, I had sexual recidivism in mind, rather than any reoffense, the average for which in that meta analysis you cited was 13.4% for all sex offenders rather than the 36.3% for all reoffenses (which probably underlines the recidivism rates for sex offenders are still slightly lower than for the general criminal population.) And while we can assume the 13% is an underestimate due to under reporting, that analysis involved studies using different methods to assess recidivism – those arrests and convictions, as well as self-reporting. You cite the only 1 in 3 reported statistic, but there’s no indication those were anyone’s reoffenses rather than an initial offense. There isn’t any math where we can extrapolate anything near 100% from these numbers. So maybe I’m wrong, but you’re not right either. It’s a difficult subject. I think it *is* safe to say most released sex offenders don’t go on to rape again. But that one that does? Who may even kill a child? How deeply does that injure a community with all the woulda shoulda couldas. I don’t pretend to have the answers to that. I think it’s clear Mr. 34 here shouldn’t have been walking the streets.

  • Castille

    “In Hanson and Bussiere’s meta-analysis, 61 research studies met the criteria for inclusion, with all utilizing a longitudinal design and a comparison group. Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period. The rate of recidivism for nonsexual violent offenses was 22.1 percent for rapists and 9.9 percent for child molesters, while the recidivism rate for any reoffense for rapists was 46.2 percent and 36.9 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period.”

    To be fair, I had sexual recidivism in mind, rather than any reoffense, the average for which in that meta analysis you cited was 13.4% for all sex offenders rather than the 36.3% for all reoffenses (which probably underlines the recidivism rates for sex offenders are still slightly lower than for the general criminal population.) And while we can assume the 13% is an underestimate due to under reporting, that analysis involved studies using different methods to assess recidivism – those arrests and convictions, as well as self-reporting. You cite the only 1 in 3 reported statistic, but there’s no indication those were anyone’s reoffenses rather than an initial offense. There isn’t any math where we can extrapolate anything near 100% from these numbers. So maybe I’m wrong, but you’re not right either. It’s a difficult subject. I think it *is* safe to say most released sex offenders don’t go on to rape again. But that one that does? Who may even kill a child? How deeply does that injure a community with all the woulda shoulda couldas. I don’t pretend to have the answers to that. I think it’s clear Mr. 34 here shouldn’t have been walking the streets.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, Castille, sorry for being strident. I’m not trying to be a bizatch.

    All I can say is, it’s not my field, but that’s the direct opposite of what I learned. I distinctly recall a figure in the high end–I want to say 97% (over a long period of time–much more than 4 or 5 yrs). I only recall this because it’s a random test detail that stuck because it was so icky.

    As for the 1 in 3, it’s a steady statistic across the board, no? Only 1 in 3 are reported, across the board. I don’t think there are any qualifiers there.

    I think I’m just surprised by your adamant statements that most released sex offenders don’t rape again. I mean, I think I’m very surprised. It’s just directly contrary to my understanding. Where are you getting that from? (not being snarky, asking).

    I mean, if I remember high 90s and you remember 3-5, how do we have such divergent ideas about this? Do you recall what studies you’re thinking of?

    I wish I just had the old textbook, ha, sold that thing back like 13 years ago!

    As for the metadata I quoted above, it should be a simple case of basically taking this statement–”Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period”–and multiplying by 3.

    That’s a high number already. Not near 100%, no. But what I recall is that as greater periods of time passed, the numbers skyrocketed. Creepily so. It was such a horrid thing that it impressed itself on my memory.

    I also recall that the 1 in 3 stat is considered a low, but thus safe, number.

    Anyway, of course we both agree, this creep is a creep! I’m just struck by how different, yet equally strong, our memories are of recidivism rates.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, Castille, sorry for being strident. I’m not trying to be a bizatch.

    All I can say is, it’s not my field, but that’s the direct opposite of what I learned. I distinctly recall a figure in the high end–I want to say 97% (over a long period of time–much more than 4 or 5 yrs). I only recall this because it’s a random test detail that stuck because it was so icky.

    As for the 1 in 3, it’s a steady statistic across the board, no? Only 1 in 3 are reported, across the board. I don’t think there are any qualifiers there.

    I think I’m just surprised by your adamant statements that most released sex offenders don’t rape again. I mean, I think I’m very surprised. It’s just directly contrary to my understanding. Where are you getting that from? (not being snarky, asking).

    I mean, if I remember high 90s and you remember 3-5, how do we have such divergent ideas about this? Do you recall what studies you’re thinking of?

    I wish I just had the old textbook, ha, sold that thing back like 13 years ago!

    As for the metadata I quoted above, it should be a simple case of basically taking this statement–”Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period”–and multiplying by 3.

    That’s a high number already. Not near 100%, no. But what I recall is that as greater periods of time passed, the numbers skyrocketed. Creepily so. It was such a horrid thing that it impressed itself on my memory.

    I also recall that the 1 in 3 stat is considered a low, but thus safe, number.

    Anyway, of course we both agree, this creep is a creep! I’m just struck by how different, yet equally strong, our memories are of recidivism rates.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, Castille, sorry for being strident. I’m not trying to be a bizatch.

    All I can say is, it’s not my field, but that’s the direct opposite of what I learned. I distinctly recall a figure in the high end–I want to say 97% (over a long period of time–much more than 4 or 5 yrs). I only recall this because it’s a random test detail that stuck because it was so icky.

    As for the 1 in 3, it’s a steady statistic across the board, no? Only 1 in 3 are reported, across the board. I don’t think there are any qualifiers there.

    I think I’m just surprised by your adamant statements that most released sex offenders don’t rape again. I mean, I think I’m very surprised. It’s just directly contrary to my understanding. Where are you getting that from? (not being snarky, asking).

    I mean, if I remember high 90s and you remember 3-5, how do we have such divergent ideas about this? Do you recall what studies you’re thinking of?

    I wish I just had the old textbook, ha, sold that thing back like 13 years ago!

    As for the metadata I quoted above, it should be a simple case of basically taking this statement–”Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period”–and multiplying by 3.

    That’s a high number already. Not near 100%, no. But what I recall is that as greater periods of time passed, the numbers skyrocketed. Creepily so. It was such a horrid thing that it impressed itself on my memory.

    I also recall that the 1 in 3 stat is considered a low, but thus safe, number.

    Anyway, of course we both agree, this creep is a creep! I’m just struck by how different, yet equally strong, our memories are of recidivism rates.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, Castille, sorry for being strident. I’m not trying to be a bizatch.

    All I can say is, it’s not my field, but that’s the direct opposite of what I learned. I distinctly recall a figure in the high end–I want to say 97% (over a long period of time–much more than 4 or 5 yrs). I only recall this because it’s a random test detail that stuck because it was so icky.

    As for the 1 in 3, it’s a steady statistic across the board, no? Only 1 in 3 are reported, across the board. I don’t think there are any qualifiers there.

    I think I’m just surprised by your adamant statements that most released sex offenders don’t rape again. I mean, I think I’m very surprised. It’s just directly contrary to my understanding. Where are you getting that from? (not being snarky, asking).

    I mean, if I remember high 90s and you remember 3-5, how do we have such divergent ideas about this? Do you recall what studies you’re thinking of?

    I wish I just had the old textbook, ha, sold that thing back like 13 years ago!

    As for the metadata I quoted above, it should be a simple case of basically taking this statement–”Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period”–and multiplying by 3.

    That’s a high number already. Not near 100%, no. But what I recall is that as greater periods of time passed, the numbers skyrocketed. Creepily so. It was such a horrid thing that it impressed itself on my memory.

    I also recall that the 1 in 3 stat is considered a low, but thus safe, number.

    Anyway, of course we both agree, this creep is a creep! I’m just struck by how different, yet equally strong, our memories are of recidivism rates.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, Castille, sorry for being strident. I’m not trying to be a bizatch.

    All I can say is, it’s not my field, but that’s the direct opposite of what I learned. I distinctly recall a figure in the high end–I want to say 97% (over a long period of time–much more than 4 or 5 yrs). I only recall this because it’s a random test detail that stuck because it was so icky.

    As for the 1 in 3, it’s a steady statistic across the board, no? Only 1 in 3 are reported, across the board. I don’t think there are any qualifiers there.

    I think I’m just surprised by your adamant statements that most released sex offenders don’t rape again. I mean, I think I’m very surprised. It’s just directly contrary to my understanding. Where are you getting that from? (not being snarky, asking).

    I mean, if I remember high 90s and you remember 3-5, how do we have such divergent ideas about this? Do you recall what studies you’re thinking of?

    I wish I just had the old textbook, ha, sold that thing back like 13 years ago!

    As for the metadata I quoted above, it should be a simple case of basically taking this statement–”Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period”–and multiplying by 3.

    That’s a high number already. Not near 100%, no. But what I recall is that as greater periods of time passed, the numbers skyrocketed. Creepily so. It was such a horrid thing that it impressed itself on my memory.

    I also recall that the 1 in 3 stat is considered a low, but thus safe, number.

    Anyway, of course we both agree, this creep is a creep! I’m just struck by how different, yet equally strong, our memories are of recidivism rates.

  • sugarglider

    Hmm, Castille, sorry for being strident. I’m not trying to be a bizatch.

    All I can say is, it’s not my field, but that’s the direct opposite of what I learned. I distinctly recall a figure in the high end–I want to say 97% (over a long period of time–much more than 4 or 5 yrs). I only recall this because it’s a random test detail that stuck because it was so icky.

    As for the 1 in 3, it’s a steady statistic across the board, no? Only 1 in 3 are reported, across the board. I don’t think there are any qualifiers there.

    I think I’m just surprised by your adamant statements that most released sex offenders don’t rape again. I mean, I think I’m very surprised. It’s just directly contrary to my understanding. Where are you getting that from? (not being snarky, asking).

    I mean, if I remember high 90s and you remember 3-5, how do we have such divergent ideas about this? Do you recall what studies you’re thinking of?

    I wish I just had the old textbook, ha, sold that thing back like 13 years ago!

    As for the metadata I quoted above, it should be a simple case of basically taking this statement–”Across all studies, the average sex offense recidivism rate (as evidenced by rearrest or reconviction) was 18.9 percent for rapists and 12.7 percent for child molesters over a four to five year period”–and multiplying by 3.

    That’s a high number already. Not near 100%, no. But what I recall is that as greater periods of time passed, the numbers skyrocketed. Creepily so. It was such a horrid thing that it impressed itself on my memory.

    I also recall that the 1 in 3 stat is considered a low, but thus safe, number.

    Anyway, of course we both agree, this creep is a creep! I’m just struck by how different, yet equally strong, our memories are of recidivism rates.

  • WryBread

    This guy is so physically ugly. He looks like a little sewer rat.

  • WryBread

    This guy is so physically ugly. He looks like a little sewer rat.

  • WryBread

    This guy is so physically ugly. He looks like a little sewer rat.

  • WryBread

    This guy is so physically ugly. He looks like a little sewer rat.

  • Senna

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

  • Senna

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

  • Senna

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

  • Senna

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

  • Senna

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

  • Senna

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

    I respect your grace immensely.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

    I respect your grace immensely.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

    I respect your grace immensely.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

    I respect your grace immensely.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com CheekySweetie

    Sugarglider, you have a valid point there. Not everyone has a car for one reason or another. It’s weird, in a dumb sort of way, but when some of my past experiences flash into my head, I automatically assume that everyone’s circumstances are like mine. (In this case, each parent had a car and were so overprotective that until I was 19, each and every minute that I wasn’t in their sight had to be accounted for by at least two different people. So the thought of a 12-year-old alone on city buses is foreign and strange to me.) I don’t know why I do that. But thanks for calling me on it. You are absolutely correct.

    I respect your grace immensely.

  • philly_phan

    Let’s NOT blame the parents…while I agree a 12 yr old should NOT be alone @ the mall (hell, my sister doesn’t let my 12 yr old niece walk to the bus stop alone!), this asshole should NOT have been OUT in the 1st place! I take public all the time and have never had a violent encounter. As Cheeky said, not everyone has access to a car. Especially here in the City.
    Failed to register? This is ridiculous! They need to be on sex offenders asses like white on rice when they let these bastards out! It’s the system’s fault! Not the little girl or her parents.

  • philly_phan

    Let’s NOT blame the parents…while I agree a 12 yr old should NOT be alone @ the mall (hell, my sister doesn’t let my 12 yr old niece walk to the bus stop alone!), this asshole should NOT have been OUT in the 1st place! I take public all the time and have never had a violent encounter. As Cheeky said, not everyone has access to a car. Especially here in the City.
    Failed to register? This is ridiculous! They need to be on sex offenders asses like white on rice when they let these bastards out! It’s the system’s fault! Not the little girl or her parents.

  • philly_phan

    Let’s NOT blame the parents…while I agree a 12 yr old should NOT be alone @ the mall (hell, my sister doesn’t let my 12 yr old niece walk to the bus stop alone!), this asshole should NOT have been OUT in the 1st place! I take public all the time and have never had a violent encounter. As Cheeky said, not everyone has access to a car. Especially here in the City.
    Failed to register? This is ridiculous! They need to be on sex offenders asses like white on rice when they let these bastards out! It’s the system’s fault! Not the little girl or her parents.

  • philly_phan

    Let’s NOT blame the parents…while I agree a 12 yr old should NOT be alone @ the mall (hell, my sister doesn’t let my 12 yr old niece walk to the bus stop alone!), this asshole should NOT have been OUT in the 1st place! I take public all the time and have never had a violent encounter. As Cheeky said, not everyone has access to a car. Especially here in the City.
    Failed to register? This is ridiculous! They need to be on sex offenders asses like white on rice when they let these bastards out! It’s the system’s fault! Not the little girl or her parents.

  • philly_phan

    Let’s NOT blame the parents…while I agree a 12 yr old should NOT be alone @ the mall (hell, my sister doesn’t let my 12 yr old niece walk to the bus stop alone!), this asshole should NOT have been OUT in the 1st place! I take public all the time and have never had a violent encounter. As Cheeky said, not everyone has access to a car. Especially here in the City.
    Failed to register? This is ridiculous! They need to be on sex offenders asses like white on rice when they let these bastards out! It’s the system’s fault! Not the little girl or her parents.

  • Castille

    Sugarglider –
    The 3-5% were from U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics studies, like 3yrs out I think. I haven’t seen any good large scale studies that track sex offender recividism past 4-5 years, you’d have to point me in that direction. Most recividism happens in those first few years out of prison, so I think that’s why even though the studies don’t track for a large number of years, they’re still given pretty good credibility. Now if you’re thinking of some much higher number, perhaps you saw something related to a particular sex offender category, like violent rapist vs. exhibitionism vs. incest. It’s not a homogeneous group.

    The 1 in 3 number I wasn’t debating – I’ll accept it for the purpose of this conversation. I was saying that while we can point to it to assume that recidivism rates are likely an underestimate, we can’t extrapolate any numbers out of it. There is no reason to believe that the unreported sex assaults are committed in larger part by released sex offenders, let alone exclusively by released offenders. So you can’t just multiply your recidivism rates by what we guess the number of unreported sex crimes might be. My suspicion is that a great number of those unreported crimes are committed by someone close to the victim, and that group in particular I might suspect of having lower recidivism rates than say, stranger child molestors, given the violence against intimates nature of their crimes. If nothing else, they have a smaller pool of potential victims when they target people close to them.

  • Castille

    Sugarglider –
    The 3-5% were from U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics studies, like 3yrs out I think. I haven’t seen any good large scale studies that track sex offender recividism past 4-5 years, you’d have to point me in that direction. Most recividism happens in those first few years out of prison, so I think that’s why even though the studies don’t track for a large number of years, they’re still given pretty good credibility. Now if you’re thinking of some much higher number, perhaps you saw something related to a particular sex offender category, like violent rapist vs. exhibitionism vs. incest. It’s not a homogeneous group.

    The 1 in 3 number I wasn’t debating – I’ll accept it for the purpose of this conversation. I was saying that while we can point to it to assume that recidivism rates are likely an underestimate, we can’t extrapolate any numbers out of it. There is no reason to believe that the unreported sex assaults are committed in larger part by released sex offenders, let alone exclusively by released offenders. So you can’t just multiply your recidivism rates by what we guess the number of unreported sex crimes might be. My suspicion is that a great number of those unreported crimes are committed by someone close to the victim, and that group in particular I might suspect of having lower recidivism rates than say, stranger child molestors, given the violence against intimates nature of their crimes. If nothing else, they have a smaller pool of potential victims when they target people close to them.

  • Castille

    Sugarglider –
    The 3-5% were from U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics studies, like 3yrs out I think. I haven’t seen any good large scale studies that track sex offender recividism past 4-5 years, you’d have to point me in that direction. Most recividism happens in those first few years out of prison, so I think that’s why even though the studies don’t track for a large number of years, they’re still given pretty good credibility. Now if you’re thinking of some much higher number, perhaps you saw something related to a particular sex offender category, like violent rapist vs. exhibitionism vs. incest. It’s not a homogeneous group.

    The 1 in 3 number I wasn’t debating – I’ll accept it for the purpose of this conversation. I was saying that while we can point to it to assume that recidivism rates are likely an underestimate, we can’t extrapolate any numbers out of it. There is no reason to believe that the unreported sex assaults are committed in larger part by released sex offenders, let alone exclusively by released offenders. So you can’t just multiply your recidivism rates by what we guess the number of unreported sex crimes might be. My suspicion is that a great number of those unreported crimes are committed by someone close to the victim, and that group in particular I might suspect of having lower recidivism rates than say, stranger child molestors, given the violence against intimates nature of their crimes. If nothing else, they have a smaller pool of potential victims when they target people close to them.

  • Castille

    Sugarglider –
    The 3-5% were from U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics studies, like 3yrs out I think. I haven’t seen any good large scale studies that track sex offender recividism past 4-5 years, you’d have to point me in that direction. Most recividism happens in those first few years out of prison, so I think that’s why even though the studies don’t track for a large number of years, they’re still given pretty good credibility. Now if you’re thinking of some much higher number, perhaps you saw something related to a particular sex offender category, like violent rapist vs. exhibitionism vs. incest. It’s not a homogeneous group.

    The 1 in 3 number I wasn’t debating – I’ll accept it for the purpose of this conversation. I was saying that while we can point to it to assume that recidivism rates are likely an underestimate, we can’t extrapolate any numbers out of it. There is no reason to believe that the unreported sex assaults are committed in larger part by released sex offenders, let alone exclusively by released offenders. So you can’t just multiply your recidivism rates by what we guess the number of unreported sex crimes might be. My suspicion is that a great number of those unreported crimes are committed by someone close to the victim, and that group in particular I might suspect of having lower recidivism rates than say, stranger child molestors, given the violence against intimates nature of their crimes. If nothing else, they have a smaller pool of potential victims when they target people close to them.

  • Castille

    Sugarglider –
    The 3-5% were from U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics studies, like 3yrs out I think. I haven’t seen any good large scale studies that track sex offender recividism past 4-5 years, you’d have to point me in that direction. Most recividism happens in those first few years out of prison, so I think that’s why even though the studies don’t track for a large number of years, they’re still given pretty good credibility. Now if you’re thinking of some much higher number, perhaps you saw something related to a particular sex offender category, like violent rapist vs. exhibitionism vs. incest. It’s not a homogeneous group.

    The 1 in 3 number I wasn’t debating – I’ll accept it for the purpose of this conversation. I was saying that while we can point to it to assume that recidivism rates are likely an underestimate, we can’t extrapolate any numbers out of it. There is no reason to believe that the unreported sex assaults are committed in larger part by released sex offenders, let alone exclusively by released offenders. So you can’t just multiply your recidivism rates by what we guess the number of unreported sex crimes might be. My suspicion is that a great number of those unreported crimes are committed by someone close to the victim, and that group in particular I might suspect of having lower recidivism rates than say, stranger child molestors, given the violence against intimates nature of their crimes. If nothing else, they have a smaller pool of potential victims when they target people close to them.

  • Castille

    Sugarglider –
    The 3-5% were from U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics studies, like 3yrs out I think. I haven’t seen any good large scale studies that track sex offender recividism past 4-5 years, you’d have to point me in that direction. Most recividism happens in those first few years out of prison, so I think that’s why even though the studies don’t track for a large number of years, they’re still given pretty good credibility. Now if you’re thinking of some much higher number, perhaps you saw something related to a particular sex offender category, like violent rapist vs. exhibitionism vs. incest. It’s not a homogeneous group.

    The 1 in 3 number I wasn’t debating – I’ll accept it for the purpose of this conversation. I was saying that while we can point to it to assume that recidivism rates are likely an underestimate, we can’t extrapolate any numbers out of it. There is no reason to believe that the unreported sex assaults are committed in larger part by released sex offenders, let alone exclusively by released offenders. So you can’t just multiply your recidivism rates by what we guess the number of unreported sex crimes might be. My suspicion is that a great number of those unreported crimes are committed by someone close to the victim, and that group in particular I might suspect of having lower recidivism rates than say, stranger child molestors, given the violence against intimates nature of their crimes. If nothing else, they have a smaller pool of potential victims when they target people close to them.

  • Castille

    To add a thought related to that only 1 in 3 reported crimes – we can guess from that, that the number of convicted sex offenders we have in this country is only a fraction of the actual number of sex offenders out there, so it would make sense that, in fact, most unreported crimes are probably committed by people never formerly convicted.

  • Castille

    To add a thought related to that only 1 in 3 reported crimes – we can guess from that, that the number of convicted sex offenders we have in this country is only a fraction of the actual number of sex offenders out there, so it would make sense that, in fact, most unreported crimes are probably committed by people never formerly convicted.

  • Castille

    To add a thought related to that only 1 in 3 reported crimes – we can guess from that, that the number of convicted sex offenders we have in this country is only a fraction of the actual number of sex offenders out there, so it would make sense that, in fact, most unreported crimes are probably committed by people never formerly convicted.

  • Castille

    To add a thought related to that only 1 in 3 reported crimes – we can guess from that, that the number of convicted sex offenders we have in this country is only a fraction of the actual number of sex offenders out there, so it would make sense that, in fact, most unreported crimes are probably committed by people never formerly convicted.

  • Castille

    To add a thought related to that only 1 in 3 reported crimes – we can guess from that, that the number of convicted sex offenders we have in this country is only a fraction of the actual number of sex offenders out there, so it would make sense that, in fact, most unreported crimes are probably committed by people never formerly convicted.

  • Castille

    To add a thought related to that only 1 in 3 reported crimes – we can guess from that, that the number of convicted sex offenders we have in this country is only a fraction of the actual number of sex offenders out there, so it would make sense that, in fact, most unreported crimes are probably committed by people never formerly convicted.

  • Wonder

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

    I do too think we should all write letters were all these charges and dismissals in the same fucking county/state?

    What is the address plz ?

    This reall really pisses me off wonder how many other guys like him out on the streets …. why so dismisses and its way to many for just technical. I call bullshit.

    They gave him 4 years to register as a sex offend before charging him and then dismiss.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    This dude is a bad ass and spent days and days off and on in jail – It would of taken a couple really big guys to retain him until the LE got there not to mention force him back to the bush.

    I don’t think I have the strength to retain him
    ———-
    He done this in broad daylight on a main road / section of town ?
    Bless the heros and the little girl and her family

  • Wonder

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

    I do too think we should all write letters were all these charges and dismissals in the same fucking county/state?

    What is the address plz ?

    This reall really pisses me off wonder how many other guys like him out on the streets …. why so dismisses and its way to many for just technical. I call bullshit.

    They gave him 4 years to register as a sex offend before charging him and then dismiss.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    This dude is a bad ass and spent days and days off and on in jail – It would of taken a couple really big guys to retain him until the LE got there not to mention force him back to the bush.

    I don’t think I have the strength to retain him
    ———-
    He done this in broad daylight on a main road / section of town ?
    Bless the heros and the little girl and her family

  • Wonder

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

    I do too think we should all write letters were all these charges and dismissals in the same fucking county/state?

    What is the address plz ?

    This reall really pisses me off wonder how many other guys like him out on the streets …. why so dismisses and its way to many for just technical. I call bullshit.

    They gave him 4 years to register as a sex offend before charging him and then dismiss.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    This dude is a bad ass and spent days and days off and on in jail – It would of taken a couple really big guys to retain him until the LE got there not to mention force him back to the bush.

    I don’t think I have the strength to retain him
    ———-
    He done this in broad daylight on a main road / section of town ?
    Bless the heros and the little girl and her family

  • Wonder

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

    I do too think we should all write letters were all these charges and dismissals in the same fucking county/state?

    What is the address plz ?

    This reall really pisses me off wonder how many other guys like him out on the streets …. why so dismisses and its way to many for just technical. I call bullshit.

    They gave him 4 years to register as a sex offend before charging him and then dismiss.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    This dude is a bad ass and spent days and days off and on in jail – It would of taken a couple really big guys to retain him until the LE got there not to mention force him back to the bush.

    I don’t think I have the strength to retain him
    ———-
    He done this in broad daylight on a main road / section of town ?
    Bless the heros and the little girl and her family

  • Wonder

    No doubt. It was probably dismissed on some stupid technicality like his probation officer didn’t show up for the hearing or some shit. We pay taxes to make sure we can count on our country doing everything it can to keep us safe. It’s not okay. Please do write a letter. That would be great. Her parents should sue the state.

    I do too think we should all write letters were all these charges and dismissals in the same fucking county/state?

    What is the address plz ?

    This reall really pisses me off wonder how many other guys like him out on the streets …. why so dismisses and its way to many for just technical. I call bullshit.

    They gave him 4 years to register as a sex offend before charging him and then dismiss.

    How hard do you think it was for those folks not to kick the dog shit out of him before turning him over to the cops. Bravo on their self control. I’m not so sure I could have brought him back to the scene without inserting my foot in his ass.

    This dude is a bad ass and spent days and days off and on in jail – It would of taken a couple really big guys to retain him until the LE got there not to mention force him back to the bush.

    I don’t think I have the strength to retain him
    ———-
    He done this in broad daylight on a main road / section of town ?
    Bless the heros and the little girl and her family

  • Wonder

    i should of said No Way I would try to tackle or hold him down he’s scary ! What I would of done was help and stay with the girl / or followed the asswipe dialing 911 etc

  • Wonder

    i should of said No Way I would try to tackle or hold him down he’s scary ! What I would of done was help and stay with the girl / or followed the asswipe dialing 911 etc

  • Wonder

    i should of said No Way I would try to tackle or hold him down he’s scary ! What I would of done was help and stay with the girl / or followed the asswipe dialing 911 etc

  • Wonder

    i should of said No Way I would try to tackle or hold him down he’s scary ! What I would of done was help and stay with the girl / or followed the asswipe dialing 911 etc

  • Wonder

    i should of said No Way I would try to tackle or hold him down he’s scary ! What I would of done was help and stay with the girl / or followed the asswipe dialing 911 etc

  • Anonymous

    Castille,

    Well, THIS I can say with total certainty: I long ago realized I wasn’t a math person. So…I probably should just honor that realization and let it go…

    ;)

  • Anonymous

    Castille,

    Well, THIS I can say with total certainty: I long ago realized I wasn’t a math person. So…I probably should just honor that realization and let it go…

    ;)

  • Anonymous

    Castille,

    Well, THIS I can say with total certainty: I long ago realized I wasn’t a math person. So…I probably should just honor that realization and let it go…

    ;)

  • sugarglider

    Castille,

    Well, THIS I can say with total certainty: I long ago realized I wasn’t a math person. So…I probably should just honor that realization and let it go…

    ;)

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Graceful people, I love you. <3

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Graceful people, I love you. <3

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Graceful people, I love you. <3

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Graceful people, I love you. <3

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com CheekySweetie

    Graceful people, I love you. <3

  • biteme

    sounds like an informant, instead of prison & beating his balls daily with a bat
    They let him commit crimes unpunished so instead of 1 arrest they get multiple arrest and promotions, while just as many crimes get committed by their informant. Cops/Judges that protect informants should have to live with them, same goes with early violent parolees, you parole them you live with them, don’t send them to my neighborhood

  • biteme

    sounds like an informant, instead of prison & beating his balls daily with a bat
    They let him commit crimes unpunished so instead of 1 arrest they get multiple arrest and promotions, while just as many crimes get committed by their informant. Cops/Judges that protect informants should have to live with them, same goes with early violent parolees, you parole them you live with them, don’t send them to my neighborhood

  • biteme

    sounds like an informant, instead of prison & beating his balls daily with a bat
    They let him commit crimes unpunished so instead of 1 arrest they get multiple arrest and promotions, while just as many crimes get committed by their informant. Cops/Judges that protect informants should have to live with them, same goes with early violent parolees, you parole them you live with them, don’t send them to my neighborhood

  • biteme

    sounds like an informant, instead of prison & beating his balls daily with a bat
    They let him commit crimes unpunished so instead of 1 arrest they get multiple arrest and promotions, while just as many crimes get committed by their informant. Cops/Judges that protect informants should have to live with them, same goes with early violent parolees, you parole them you live with them, don’t send them to my neighborhood

  • biteme

    sounds like an informant, instead of prison & beating his balls daily with a bat
    They let him commit crimes unpunished so instead of 1 arrest they get multiple arrest and promotions, while just as many crimes get committed by their informant. Cops/Judges that protect informants should have to live with them, same goes with early violent parolees, you parole them you live with them, don’t send them to my neighborhood

  • biteme

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    I don’t know what the hell your problem is, but my kid and his friends started going to the mall at 12 years old. he’s now 14 goes to a private school, takes the train and walks 1.5 miles from the train station to school walks about the same from the train station home
    let’s try placing the blame where it belongs, and not blaming innocent victims. lets deal with the judicial system instead of locking our children in the house to protect them
    We should do everything we can to make cases like these public, it’s the only way to reform our lacking legal system

  • biteme

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    I don’t know what the hell your problem is, but my kid and his friends started going to the mall at 12 years old. he’s now 14 goes to a private school, takes the train and walks 1.5 miles from the train station to school walks about the same from the train station home
    let’s try placing the blame where it belongs, and not blaming innocent victims. lets deal with the judicial system instead of locking our children in the house to protect them
    We should do everything we can to make cases like these public, it’s the only way to reform our lacking legal system

  • biteme

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    I don’t know what the hell your problem is, but my kid and his friends started going to the mall at 12 years old. he’s now 14 goes to a private school, takes the train and walks 1.5 miles from the train station to school walks about the same from the train station home
    let’s try placing the blame where it belongs, and not blaming innocent victims. lets deal with the judicial system instead of locking our children in the house to protect them
    We should do everything we can to make cases like these public, it’s the only way to reform our lacking legal system

  • biteme

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    I don’t know what the hell your problem is, but my kid and his friends started going to the mall at 12 years old. he’s now 14 goes to a private school, takes the train and walks 1.5 miles from the train station to school walks about the same from the train station home
    let’s try placing the blame where it belongs, and not blaming innocent victims. lets deal with the judicial system instead of locking our children in the house to protect them
    We should do everything we can to make cases like these public, it’s the only way to reform our lacking legal system

  • biteme

    ok- I know kids mature fast these days, but WHO LETS A 12 year old wander around a MALL by theirself, muchless all over town on and off a public transit system EVERYDAY.
    Change schools already and take the bus like you are supposed to in the correct district!
    (Parents are being charged with fraud/ falsifying documents for keeping kids in schools not in the correct district, here in GA!)

    I don’t know what the hell your problem is, but my kid and his friends started going to the mall at 12 years old. he’s now 14 goes to a private school, takes the train and walks 1.5 miles from the train station to school walks about the same from the train station home
    let’s try placing the blame where it belongs, and not blaming innocent victims. lets deal with the judicial system instead of locking our children in the house to protect them
    We should do everything we can to make cases like these public, it’s the only way to reform our lacking legal system

  • mousygirl

    i went to the mall with my friends when i was 12 years old, and i really think i would’ve ridden a bus my myself at that age too. (didn’t need to, lived in a small town, only one school). blaming the parents just isn’t right, i am sure they’re questioning themselves enough right now. the only ones to blame are the piece of shit that did this and the system that allowed him to be on the streets.

  • mousygirl

    i went to the mall with my friends when i was 12 years old, and i really think i would’ve ridden a bus my myself at that age too. (didn’t need to, lived in a small town, only one school). blaming the parents just isn’t right, i am sure they’re questioning themselves enough right now. the only ones to blame are the piece of shit that did this and the system that allowed him to be on the streets.

  • mousygirl

    i went to the mall with my friends when i was 12 years old, and i really think i would’ve ridden a bus my myself at that age too. (didn’t need to, lived in a small town, only one school). blaming the parents just isn’t right, i am sure they’re questioning themselves enough right now. the only ones to blame are the piece of shit that did this and the system that allowed him to be on the streets.

  • mousygirl

    i went to the mall with my friends when i was 12 years old, and i really think i would’ve ridden a bus my myself at that age too. (didn’t need to, lived in a small town, only one school). blaming the parents just isn’t right, i am sure they’re questioning themselves enough right now. the only ones to blame are the piece of shit that did this and the system that allowed him to be on the streets.

  • mousygirl

    i went to the mall with my friends when i was 12 years old, and i really think i would’ve ridden a bus my myself at that age too. (didn’t need to, lived in a small town, only one school). blaming the parents just isn’t right, i am sure they’re questioning themselves enough right now. the only ones to blame are the piece of shit that did this and the system that allowed him to be on the streets.

  • CrazyKid

    i live in NC not far from Charlotte.. [[lexington]] and i cant believe how many crewl and sick ppl there are around here… well not just here.. everywhere.. but this is very common around the school areas around here. a few of my bestfriends are attending college in Charlotte and theres been alot of campus kidnapping and rapes. as my own personal opinion i feel that not just here but everywhere.. if someone has been in trouble for child molestation or rape or any source of anything to do with that not only should go to prison but should ROTT there. not to mention for all the charges he has doubled and gained over there years im wondering why the hell did our community let him OUT?! its completely DISTURBING. and actually quite scary. no kids are safe to even catch a bus these days… but without ppl like this dude in the world.. maybe just maybe things would be a hell of alot safer. i just cant imagine something like this happening to one of my family members, friends, friends kids… or ANYBODY really. its just sad! what have the ppl become?

  • CrazyKid

    i live in NC not far from Charlotte.. [[lexington]] and i cant believe how many crewl and sick ppl there are around here… well not just here.. everywhere.. but this is very common around the school areas around here. a few of my bestfriends are attending college in Charlotte and theres been alot of campus kidnapping and rapes. as my own personal opinion i feel that not just here but everywhere.. if someone has been in trouble for child molestation or rape or any source of anything to do with that not only should go to prison but should ROTT there. not to mention for all the charges he has doubled and gained over there years im wondering why the hell did our community let him OUT?! its completely DISTURBING. and actually quite scary. no kids are safe to even catch a bus these days… but without ppl like this dude in the world.. maybe just maybe things would be a hell of alot safer. i just cant imagine something like this happening to one of my family members, friends, friends kids… or ANYBODY really. its just sad! what have the ppl become?

  • CrazyKid

    i live in NC not far from Charlotte.. [[lexington]] and i cant believe how many crewl and sick ppl there are around here… well not just here.. everywhere.. but this is very common around the school areas around here. a few of my bestfriends are attending college in Charlotte and theres been alot of campus kidnapping and rapes. as my own personal opinion i feel that not just here but everywhere.. if someone has been in trouble for child molestation or rape or any source of anything to do with that not only should go to prison but should ROTT there. not to mention for all the charges he has doubled and gained over there years im wondering why the hell did our community let him OUT?! its completely DISTURBING. and actually quite scary. no kids are safe to even catch a bus these days… but without ppl like this dude in the world.. maybe just maybe things would be a hell of alot safer. i just cant imagine something like this happening to one of my family members, friends, friends kids… or ANYBODY really. its just sad! what have the ppl become?

  • CrazyKid

    i live in NC not far from Charlotte.. [[lexington]] and i cant believe how many crewl and sick ppl there are around here… well not just here.. everywhere.. but this is very common around the school areas around here. a few of my bestfriends are attending college in Charlotte and theres been alot of campus kidnapping and rapes. as my own personal opinion i feel that not just here but everywhere.. if someone has been in trouble for child molestation or rape or any source of anything to do with that not only should go to prison but should ROTT there. not to mention for all the charges he has doubled and gained over there years im wondering why the hell did our community let him OUT?! its completely DISTURBING. and actually quite scary. no kids are safe to even catch a bus these days… but without ppl like this dude in the world.. maybe just maybe things would be a hell of alot safer. i just cant imagine something like this happening to one of my family members, friends, friends kids… or ANYBODY really. its just sad! what have the ppl become?

  • CrazyKid

    i live in NC not far from Charlotte.. [[lexington]] and i cant believe how many crewl and sick ppl there are around here… well not just here.. everywhere.. but this is very common around the school areas around here. a few of my bestfriends are attending college in Charlotte and theres been alot of campus kidnapping and rapes. as my own personal opinion i feel that not just here but everywhere.. if someone has been in trouble for child molestation or rape or any source of anything to do with that not only should go to prison but should ROTT there. not to mention for all the charges he has doubled and gained over there years im wondering why the hell did our community let him OUT?! its completely DISTURBING. and actually quite scary. no kids are safe to even catch a bus these days… but without ppl like this dude in the world.. maybe just maybe things would be a hell of alot safer. i just cant imagine something like this happening to one of my family members, friends, friends kids… or ANYBODY really. its just sad! what have the ppl become?

  • CrazyKid

    i live in NC not far from Charlotte.. [[lexington]] and i cant believe how many crewl and sick ppl there are around here… well not just here.. everywhere.. but this is very common around the school areas around here. a few of my bestfriends are attending college in Charlotte and theres been alot of campus kidnapping and rapes. as my own personal opinion i feel that not just here but everywhere.. if someone has been in trouble for child molestation or rape or any source of anything to do with that not only should go to prison but should ROTT there. not to mention for all the charges he has doubled and gained over there years im wondering why the hell did our community let him OUT?! its completely DISTURBING. and actually quite scary. no kids are safe to even catch a bus these days… but without ppl like this dude in the world.. maybe just maybe things would be a hell of alot safer. i just cant imagine something like this happening to one of my family members, friends, friends kids… or ANYBODY really. its just sad! what have the ppl become?