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Who Murdered Brittany Tate?

October 6, 2008 at 4:57 pm by  

Update 10/13/2008 – Break in the case with three arrests. Luther Bonds, 26, Jerry Williams and Steven Brown, both 24 years old. Bonds told police he was Tate’s boyfriend. More info at bottom of article.

Who Murdered Brittany Tate?

Luther Bonds, Jerry Williams, Steven Brown

At Dreamin’ Demon, sometimes we get a story that hits close to home because it involves one of our own. This is such a case. Our member Zibarro emailed us with this story today, and much of the information comes from her. Words really don’t express our sadness for Zibarro and her family – you are in our thoughts. Thank you for sharing Brittany’s story with us. – Imp and Morbid

Who Murdered Brittany Tate?

http://www.myspace.com/lil_britt_20_0206

Indianapolis, IN - On Friday evening, just before 6:00, a man and his son were fishing on the White River just off 10th Street in Indianapolis. They saw what they thought was a mannequin, clad only in underwear, floating just offshore. On closer inspection, though, the mannequin turned out to be the body of a young woman – and she’d been in the water for awhile. Today, that body was identified as Brittany Tate, 21. She’d been murdered and dumped in the river.

Brittany was a cute redhead with stunning blue eyes. She had a number of tattoos, many of which were applied or touched up by her cousin Bryan. Those tattoos, along with her fingerprints, helped to identify her body. Cause of death has not yet been released – police will say only that she was a victim of homicide. Brittany was found only in her panties, and some of her personal effects were found scattered along the shore.

Brittany’s family tells me that she was a sweet, sometimes gullible girl who got caught up in a romantic relationship that might not have been good for her. Certainly after getting involved with her boyfriend, Brittany quickly got a criminal record to go with her new man, and ended up doing prison time for nonviolent offenses like fraud and theft.

But recently, Brittany seemed to be getting her life together. She had gotten out of prison, gone home, and had recently bought a car. But something clearly wasn’t right. A witness reported seeing a girl matching Brittany’s description standing outside a car like Brittany’s sometime in the last week or so. The witness said that Brittany appeared to be arguing with a man next to the 10th Street river entrance – just where Brittany’s body was found on Friday. The car has not been recovered, and the man who was seen arguing with Brittany has not been located.

As of today, there are still more questions than answers. We know that Brittany Tate was likely murdered. We don’t know how, or when, or by whom. All we really know, now, is that Brittany Tate is gone, leaving behind her family and friends. I’ll keep this article updated as information comes in.

Update 10/13/2008 - Bonds told detectives that he, Williams, Brown and Tate were riding in a car together and that Williams was messing with a gun in the rear driver seat. Tate, the passenger, told Williams not to play with the gun and WIlliams replied by shooting her in the head. The three then took Brittany’s body to the White River and dumped her in.

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  • RockRGrl

    My condolences to Zibarro, family, and friends of Brittany.

  • RockRGrl

    My condolences to Zibarro, family, and friends of Brittany.

  • RockRGrl

    My condolences to Zibarro, family, and friends of Brittany.

  • Rory28

    …Those have to be THEE MOST amazing blue eyes i have EVER seen :-/…

    R.I.P

  • Rory28

    …Those have to be THEE MOST amazing blue eyes i have EVER seen :-/…

    R.I.P

  • Rory28

    …Those have to be THEE MOST amazing blue eyes i have EVER seen :-/…

    R.I.P

  • http://truecrimereport.com/ SHuff

    Oh, Jeez. Poor kid. Man. You all let me know if I can help, somehow.

  • http://truecrimereport.com/ SHuff

    Oh, Jeez. Poor kid. Man. You all let me know if I can help, somehow.

  • http://truecrimereport.com/ SHuff

    Oh, Jeez. Poor kid. Man. You all let me know if I can help, somehow.

  • http://truecrimereport.com/ SHuff

    Oh, Jeez. Poor kid. Man. You all let me know if I can help, somehow.

  • silvahalo

    I could see the light of life in those eyes!…beautiful baby blues!
    I pray Brittnay gets the justice she so deserves.
    To Brittnay’s mother, am so very sorry about the loss of your baby girl…*hugs* to you during this most difficult time.
    My deepest and sincerest sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    May you rest in peace beautiful Brittnay.

  • silvahalo

    I could see the light of life in those eyes!…beautiful baby blues!
    I pray Brittnay gets the justice she so deserves.
    To Brittnay’s mother, am so very sorry about the loss of your baby girl…*hugs* to you during this most difficult time.
    My deepest and sincerest sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    May you rest in peace beautiful Brittnay.

  • silvahalo

    I could see the light of life in those eyes!…beautiful baby blues!
    I pray Brittnay gets the justice she so deserves.
    To Brittnay’s mother, am so very sorry about the loss of your baby girl…*hugs* to you during this most difficult time.
    My deepest and sincerest sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    May you rest in peace beautiful Brittnay.

  • silvahalo

    I could see the light of life in those eyes!…beautiful baby blues!
    I pray Brittnay gets the justice she so deserves.
    To Brittnay’s mother, am so very sorry about the loss of your baby girl…*hugs* to you during this most difficult time.
    My deepest and sincerest sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    May you rest in peace beautiful Brittnay.

  • Stella

    Those are the most amazing blue eyes that I’ve ever seen, bar none. My sincere sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    I hope justice is swift.

  • Stella

    Those are the most amazing blue eyes that I’ve ever seen, bar none. My sincere sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    I hope justice is swift.

  • Stella

    Those are the most amazing blue eyes that I’ve ever seen, bar none. My sincere sympathies to the Zibarro family.

    I hope justice is swift.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    I want to say a HUGE Thank you to Imp for writing this story. You did a fantastic job!

    Also thank you to everyone who’s commented thus far. I myself was not related to Brittany by blood – she is the cousin of my son-in-law. He is so devastated by this, I can’t begin to tell you. He had been corresponding with Britt a lot recently and they were making plans for her to come see his (soon to be 3 yr. old) twins for the first time. Sadly for all – that won’t happen.

    What makes this even more tragic (as if it isn’t its own ultimate tragedy) is that Brittany’s immediate family has already buried a family member this year. Brittany’s father passed away a few months ago.

    I just pray the police don’t sweep this under the rug because of Britt’s having spent time in prison. I’d hate for her killer to keep walking our streets.

    Please continue to pray for Britt’s family and friends and pray her killer is caught soon!

  • Zibarro

    I want to say a HUGE Thank you to Imp for writing this story. You did a fantastic job!

    Also thank you to everyone who’s commented thus far. I myself was not related to Brittany by blood – she is the cousin of my son-in-law. He is so devastated by this, I can’t begin to tell you. He had been corresponding with Britt a lot recently and they were making plans for her to come see his (soon to be 3 yr. old) twins for the first time. Sadly for all – that won’t happen.

    What makes this even more tragic (as if it isn’t its own ultimate tragedy) is that Brittany’s immediate family has already buried a family member this year. Brittany’s father passed away a few months ago.

    I just pray the police don’t sweep this under the rug because of Britt’s having spent time in prison. I’d hate for her killer to keep walking our streets.

    Please continue to pray for Britt’s family and friends and pray her killer is caught soon!

  • http://www.myspace.com/dneil73 Dneilz

    So sorry to hear about this. What a beautiful young woman. I hope the piece of shit that took her life is found and brought to justice. I wish men like this would keep their hands off of women….

    My prayers are with the family and in the hopes of justice!

  • http://www.myspace.com/dneil73 Dneilz

    So sorry to hear about this. What a beautiful young woman. I hope the piece of shit that took her life is found and brought to justice. I wish men like this would keep their hands off of women….

    My prayers are with the family and in the hopes of justice!

  • cnkc

    What a beautiful girl, such gorgeous eyes….

    So sorry for the family’s loss.

  • cnkc

    What a beautiful girl, such gorgeous eyes….

    So sorry for the family’s loss.

  • Lilbay

    Many prayers to you and your family. I pray that they find who done this and that person is made to pay.
    Many Blesssings
    Bay

  • Lilbay

    Many prayers to you and your family. I pray that they find who done this and that person is made to pay.
    Many Blesssings
    Bay

  • saltwatergirl

    praying for the killer to be caught… R.I P Brittany

  • saltwatergirl

    praying for the killer to be caught… R.I P Brittany

  • Anonymous

    …Those have to be THEE MOST amazing blue eyes i have EVER seen :-/…

    Those almost have to be tinted contacts… Zibarro, aren’t they?

    I want to say a HUGE Thank you to Imp for writing this story. You did a fantastic job!

    Imp always does!

    Zibarro, I’m so sorry. She looks very sweet. I will be hoping for justice.

  • sugarglider

    …Those have to be THEE MOST amazing blue eyes i have EVER seen :-/…

    Those almost have to be tinted contacts… Zibarro, aren’t they?

    I want to say a HUGE Thank you to Imp for writing this story. You did a fantastic job!

    Imp always does!

    Zibarro, I’m so sorry. She looks very sweet. I will be hoping for justice.

  • Wildheart

    Zibarro and family – I’m so sorry for your loss. What a beautiful young girl…..I hope they find the killer soon. Why is it always the ones who are trying to straighten up their lives and not the ones who are making life miserable for others??

  • Wildheart

    Zibarro and family – I’m so sorry for your loss. What a beautiful young girl…..I hope they find the killer soon. Why is it always the ones who are trying to straighten up their lives and not the ones who are making life miserable for others??

  • kavelyn

    Rest assured, Zibarro, that lovely Brittney is in a place now without hate, fear, or tears. May she find the peace for which she’d been searching.

  • kavelyn

    Rest assured, Zibarro, that lovely Brittney is in a place now without hate, fear, or tears. May she find the peace for which she’d been searching.

  • mjmsepm

    So young and pretty I hope they find who did this and definatly look at the boyfriend who got her in trouble…at least that is what I think!

  • mjmsepm

    So young and pretty I hope they find who did this and definatly look at the boyfriend who got her in trouble…at least that is what I think!

  • Armywife.Mo.

    Rest in Peace Brittany, what a beautiful girl gone too soon.

  • Armywife.Mo.

    Rest in Peace Brittany, what a beautiful girl gone too soon.

  • WhatThe

    I just pray the police don’t sweep this under the rug because of Britt’s having spent time in prison. I’d hate for her killer to keep walking our streets.

    I hope for the family that this is resolved soon. If nothing else, some closure may help the family’s grieving process.

  • WhatThe

    I just pray the police don’t sweep this under the rug because of Britt’s having spent time in prison. I’d hate for her killer to keep walking our streets.

    I hope for the family that this is resolved soon. If nothing else, some closure may help the family’s grieving process.

  • nadine

    Sorry for your loss, rest in peace Brittany and I too hope they don’t throw this one under the rug because of her past because then we have a KILLER LOOSE AGAIN and you know when will people learn they have no right to touch another without permission. I HOPE THIS PERSON IS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE OR JUST SHOT IN HEAD and be done with it, show them that that is the justice to come you take a life I TAKE YOURS and then these demons will stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNTIL THE SYSTEM SHOWS THEM THAT THERE IS ACTION FOR THEIR CHOICES OF ACTION then they will continue to kill, rape, beat, it goes on and on and on and on VOTE FOR ME i will show them how to get rid of some space in prison called ” CLEAN UP:

  • nadine

    Sorry for your loss, rest in peace Brittany and I too hope they don’t throw this one under the rug because of her past because then we have a KILLER LOOSE AGAIN and you know when will people learn they have no right to touch another without permission. I HOPE THIS PERSON IS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE OR JUST SHOT IN HEAD and be done with it, show them that that is the justice to come you take a life I TAKE YOURS and then these demons will stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNTIL THE SYSTEM SHOWS THEM THAT THERE IS ACTION FOR THEIR CHOICES OF ACTION then they will continue to kill, rape, beat, it goes on and on and on and on VOTE FOR ME i will show them how to get rid of some space in prison called ” CLEAN UP:

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    I understand when someone commits a crime against a child and then that person dies and people say “They got what they deserved”.

    I understand when someone commits a violent crime against another person and then the perpetrator dies and people say “They got what they deserved”.

    I even understand when someone is a career criminal who never gets caught and then during one of their crimes dies and people say “They got what they deserved”.

    What I DON’T understand is when a young (21 yr. old) woman is found to have a criminal past and even (so it’s being reported) a past struggle with drugs – but has paid her debt to society and is working on a better future but is murdered and dumped in a river when people make comments like this:

    “Blah Blah Blah
    How many times have I heard that same story…
    Blah Blah Blah
    Strange how most all the DEAD people in the news have a felony conviction. Now I get to pay for EVERYTHING associated with her death including the autopsy. “

    “Her past? She just got released from prison less then a month ago. So long to white trash. Dumped in the river like the garbage she was.”
    “Let’s me know that its not a crazy running around killing people—just people mixed up in bad stuff and getting murdered because of it.(I too think its drugs)”.

    These comments were from a local news topix forum here in Indy.

    It just breaks my heart that people are so cold and callous in this world.

    I know Brittany wasn’t an angel. She had a troubled past and a crappy support system. At a young, impressionable age, she got mixed up with a sweet talking, semi-good looking guy and committed crimes such as burglary and theft. She was caught and she served her time for those crimes. While with that asshole, she also apparently got “turned on” to crack (at least that’s what the news is saying) Highly doubt she was able to continue that while in prison… and not convinced she went right back to it after her release. Regardless – NONE OF THAT EXCUSES HER BEING MURDERED!

    No one will ever know how Brittany’s life would have turned out. Her opportunity to become a successful, productive member of society was stolen from her sometime last week. While I don’t believe it was her ex-boyfriend who did this, I will wait for police to do their job and figure that part out. Yes, he was violent (my own daughter dated this scum for a few months before Brittany did, and told me of his temper) but I have a hard time wrapping my head around him being capable of murder (for obvious reasons) Guess we’ll see.

    Thank you for allowing me to rant. I’ll let y’all know if I hear anything new.

    Oh, and yes… I believe those are contacts. She had very pretty blue eyes… but not quite THAT startling! lol

  • Zibarro

    I understand when someone commits a crime against a child and then that person dies and people say “They got what they deserved”.

    I understand when someone commits a violent crime against another person and then the perpetrator dies and people say “They got what they deserved”.

    I even understand when someone is a career criminal who never gets caught and then during one of their crimes dies and people say “They got what they deserved”.

    What I DON’T understand is when a young (21 yr. old) woman is found to have a criminal past and even (so it’s being reported) a past struggle with drugs – but has paid her debt to society and is working on a better future but is murdered and dumped in a river when people make comments like this:

    “Blah Blah Blah
    How many times have I heard that same story…
    Blah Blah Blah
    Strange how most all the DEAD people in the news have a felony conviction. Now I get to pay for EVERYTHING associated with her death including the autopsy. “

    “Her past? She just got released from prison less then a month ago. So long to white trash. Dumped in the river like the garbage she was.”

    “Let’s me know that its not a crazy running around killing people—just people mixed up in bad stuff and getting murdered because of it.(I too think its drugs)”.

    These comments were from a local news topix forum here in Indy.

    It just breaks my heart that people are so cold and callous in this world.

    I know Brittany wasn’t an angel. She had a troubled past and a crappy support system. At a young, impressionable age, she got mixed up with a sweet talking, semi-good looking guy and committed crimes such as burglary and theft. She was caught and she served her time for those crimes. While with that asshole, she also apparently got “turned on” to crack (at least that’s what the news is saying) Highly doubt she was able to continue that while in prison… and not convinced she went right back to it after her release. Regardless – NONE OF THAT EXCUSES HER BEING MURDERED!

    No one will ever know how Brittany’s life would have turned out. Her opportunity to become a successful, productive member of society was stolen from her sometime last week. While I don’t believe it was her ex-boyfriend who did this, I will wait for police to do their job and figure that part out. Yes, he was violent (my own daughter dated this scum for a few months before Brittany did, and told me of his temper) but I have a hard time wrapping my head around him being capable of murder (for obvious reasons) Guess we’ll see.

    Thank you for allowing me to rant. I’ll let y’all know if I hear anything new.

    Oh, and yes… I believe those are contacts. She had very pretty blue eyes… but not quite THAT startling! lol

  • SoUncool

    Zibarro, I’m sorry to hear about Brittany and my thoughts go out to you and her family. You’re right she didn’t deserve to die. People can be cruel, especially when they don’t know the whole story. Please keep us posted…

  • SoUncool

    Zibarro, I’m sorry to hear about Brittany and my thoughts go out to you and her family. You’re right she didn’t deserve to die. People can be cruel, especially when they don’t know the whole story. Please keep us posted…

  • Peeperann

    Zibarro, Please don’t read those stupid hateful comments people are putting out there. It will only hurt you more.

    She does have amazing eyes, wow. I’m so sorry for you and her family and friends. It seems as if she had learned her lesson and was trying to put everything behind her and get her life together.

    I will be praying for all of you. Also that her killer gets caught and soon

  • Peeperann

    Zibarro, Please don’t read those stupid hateful comments people are putting out there. It will only hurt you more.

    She does have amazing eyes, wow. I’m so sorry for you and her family and friends. It seems as if she had learned her lesson and was trying to put everything behind her and get her life together.

    I will be praying for all of you. Also that her killer gets caught and soon

  • porcelain

    I read this earlier and I must say what a tremendous loss
    she was absolutely stunning.

    Looking at her picture you can visibly see she was a caring and good person.

    I hope you guys catch the scumbag who did this to her.

    Did anyone give a description of the man she was arguing with?
    has anyone looked online to see if she was chatting with anybody or had any arguments with anyone?

  • porcelain

    I read this earlier and I must say what a tremendous loss
    she was absolutely stunning.

    Looking at her picture you can visibly see she was a caring and good person.

    I hope you guys catch the scumbag who did this to her.

    Did anyone give a description of the man she was arguing with?
    has anyone looked online to see if she was chatting with anybody or had any arguments with anyone?

  • CassieMomma

    What a beautiful young woman. No one deserves something like that. Ignore those comments from those stupid ignorant people, usually people that make comments like that are hiding who they really are. So sad and my sympathies go out to you Zibarro and to the family.

    “Her past? She just got released from prison less then a month ago. So long to white trash. Dumped in the river like the garbage she was.”

  • CassieMomma

    What a beautiful young woman. No one deserves something like that. Ignore those comments from those stupid ignorant people, usually people that make comments like that are hiding who they really are. So sad and my sympathies go out to you Zibarro and to the family.

    “Her past? She just got released from prison less then a month ago. So long to white trash. Dumped in the river like the garbage she was.”

  • mishdabrat

    Zibarro my condolences to you and your family. Please keep us updated on the case.

  • mishdabrat

    Zibarro my condolences to you and your family. Please keep us updated on the case.

  • ScotchyScotch

    All,

    I am sitting right in the middle of the fence on this one.

    *To all of you expressing sympathy to the family and commenting on how pretty she is and her beautiful blue eyes:
    YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES!!! — If she was fat and fugly, you would all be mocking her and making fun of her.

    *TO all of you saying or thinking “She got was she deserves!”
    YOU ARE ALL MORONS!!! — You cannot justify her murder with petty theft although it is probably safe to say that if she committed crimes she probably pissed off the wrong people.

    It is sad, and the only thing that I regret is she didn’t live long enough to grow up and take responsibility for her actions by becoming a better person, although at 21 – its seems like she should have already been progressing in that direction…

    Signed,
    Ron

  • ScotchyScotch

    All,

    I am sitting right in the middle of the fence on this one.

    *To all of you expressing sympathy to the family and commenting on how pretty she is and her beautiful blue eyes:
    YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES!!! — If she was fat and fugly, you would all be mocking her and making fun of her.

    *TO all of you saying or thinking “She got was she deserves!”
    YOU ARE ALL MORONS!!! — You cannot justify her murder with petty theft although it is probably safe to say that if she committed crimes she probably pissed off the wrong people.

    It is sad, and the only thing that I regret is she didn’t live long enough to grow up and take responsibility for her actions by becoming a better person, although at 21 – its seems like she should have already been progressing in that direction…

    Signed,
    Ron

  • CassieMomma

    *To all of you expressing sympathy to the family and commenting on how pretty she is and her beautiful blue eyes:YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES!!! — If she was fat and fugly, you would all be mocking her and making fun of her.

    Personally, I wouldn’t of made fun of her. She was murdered and it’s just sad regardless of what she looked like.

    Although I would make fun of the fat, ugly, skanky whore who took her beat up kid to Wal-Mart, she deserves that ;)

  • CassieMomma

    *To all of you expressing sympathy to the family and commenting on how pretty she is and her beautiful blue eyes:YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES!!! — If she was fat and fugly, you would all be mocking her and making fun of her.

    Personally, I wouldn’t of made fun of her. She was murdered and it’s just sad regardless of what she looked like.

    Although I would make fun of the fat, ugly, skanky whore who took her beat up kid to Wal-Mart, she deserves that ;)

  • Anonymous

    What do mean you are sitting in the middle of the fence? You mean that half of your brain thinks she had pretty blue eyes (again, those really have to be tinted contact lenses, period) and the other half of you thinks she got what she deserves?

    I don’t think anyone who posted here so far would be mocking a murder victim for being fat or ugly–they might do it if she was the culprit, but not the victim.

    Really, what are you in the middle of the fence about? No one deserves to be killed and dumped in a river. How could you be in the middle of the fence about that? I don’t understand.

  • sugarglider

    What do mean you are sitting in the middle of the fence? You mean that half of your brain thinks she had pretty blue eyes (again, those really have to be tinted contact lenses, period) and the other half of you thinks she got what she deserves?

    I don’t think anyone who posted here so far would be mocking a murder victim for being fat or ugly–they might do it if she was the culprit, but not the victim.

    Really, what are you in the middle of the fence about? No one deserves to be killed and dumped in a river. How could you be in the middle of the fence about that? I don’t understand.

  • lifino

    *To all of you expressing sympathy to the family and commenting on how pretty she is and her beautiful blue eyes:YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES!!! — If she was fat and fugly, you would all be mocking her and making fun of her.

    HUH?

    I have been reading this site for a long time and I don’t think I have ever read anyone other than trolls trying to victimize the victim. We make fun of the offender but never the victim.

  • lifino

    *To all of you expressing sympathy to the family and commenting on how pretty she is and her beautiful blue eyes:YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES!!! — If she was fat and fugly, you would all be mocking her and making fun of her.

    HUH?

    I have been reading this site for a long time and I don’t think I have ever read anyone other than trolls trying to victimize the victim. We make fun of the offender but never the victim.

  • ScotchyScotch

    No, the pretty blue eyes have absolutely nothing to do with any type of sympathy or shouldn’t have. So, if somebody’s pretty – they get sympathy.

    I think it would be interesting to do a study on this website and compare articles on people who were murdered between multiple groups. Whether they are “attractive” or not, and the quantity of sympathetic comments they received.

    I would BET that there is a correlation to receiving more if you are considered attractive…

  • ScotchyScotch

    No, the pretty blue eyes have absolutely nothing to do with any type of sympathy or shouldn’t have. So, if somebody’s pretty – they get sympathy.

    I think it would be interesting to do a study on this website and compare articles on people who were murdered between multiple groups. Whether they are “attractive” or not, and the quantity of sympathetic comments they received.

    I would BET that there is a correlation to receiving more if you are considered attractive…

  • ScotchyScotch

    Why don’t people just comment on being sympathetic without the comments about the “stunning blue eyes” or “how pretty she was”? Doe those two things make it more of a trajedy???

    Just curious…

    Someone above said “Looking at her picture, you can visibly tell she was a caring and good person”.

    How ridiculus!!! She was caring and good enough to go to prison for being a scumbag…

  • ScotchyScotch

    Why don’t people just comment on being sympathetic without the comments about the “stunning blue eyes” or “how pretty she was”? Doe those two things make it more of a trajedy???

    Just curious…

    Someone above said “Looking at her picture, you can visibly tell she was a caring and good person”.

    How ridiculus!!! She was caring and good enough to go to prison for being a scumbag…

  • Anonymous

    How ridiculus!!! She was caring and good enough to go to prison for being a scumbag…

    Errr, did you read the STORY? Are you even slightly aware that this person was related to someone who regularly posts on the Dreamin Demon? You might want to consider that because this person was killed, people are trying to be compassionate and say nice things. Not just about the deceased, but to her family member who is a DD member. If you want to bash victims, maybe you should do it some other site where it will be appreciated, rather than heartlessly slamming someone whose own family member is around and is reading what you write? Have some compassion, dude.

  • ScotchyScotch

    Too bad she died, but I don’t see any reasons for extensive sympathy over any other murder victim.

    Looks have nothing to do with it. And, the only actions listed above regarding her life make her a scumbag in my book…

    Like I said above, “too bad”. Just like it is too bad for the other 200 people (qty?) who were murdered in the US today…

  • sugarglider

    How ridiculus!!! She was caring and good enough to go to prison for being a scumbag…

    Errr, did you read the STORY? Are you even slightly aware that this person was related to someone who regularly posts on the Dreamin Demon? You might want to consider that because this person was killed, people are trying to be compassionate and say nice things. Not just about the deceased, but to her family member who is a DD member. If you want to bash victims, maybe you should do it some other site where it will be appreciated, rather than heartlessly slamming someone whose own family member is around and is reading what you write? Have some compassion, dude.

  • ScotchyScotch

    Too bad she died, but I don’t see any reasons for extensive sympathy over any other murder victim.

    Looks have nothing to do with it. And, the only actions listed above regarding her life make her a scumbag in my book…

    Like I said above, “too bad”. Just like it is too bad for the other 200 people (qty?) who were murdered in the US today…

  • Anonymous

    p.s. if your idea of a scumbag is someone who was convicted of nonviolent crime (fraud & theft), you must be a pretty delicate sort of guy.

  • sugarglider

    p.s. if your idea of a scumbag is someone who was convicted of nonviolent crime (fraud & theft), you must be a pretty delicate sort of guy.

  • Anonymous

    Looking at her picture you can visibly see she was a caring and good person.

    Not picking on Porcelain particularly; but I think this sort of comment might be what Scotchyscot had in mind. Talk about judging a book by its cover……

    That said, I think there is a strong tendency on this site to see beauty where there is little or none as well as where there is undeniable beauty, when we are looking at victims and to see mostly the mockable even in the more objectively attractive-looking criminals. We wear moral-tinted glasses. No harm in that while we remember that that is what we do.

  • Abroad

    Looking at her picture you can visibly see she was a caring and good person.

    Not picking on Porcelain particularly; but I think this sort of comment might be what Scotchyscot had in mind. Talk about judging a book by its cover……

    That said, I think there is a strong tendency on this site to see beauty where there is little or none as well as where there is undeniable beauty, when we are looking at victims and to see mostly the mockable even in the more objectively attractive-looking criminals. We wear moral-tinted glasses. No harm in that while we remember that that is what we do.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad she died, but I don’t see any reasons for extensive sympathy over any other murder victim.

    Once again, the reason is that someone who was related to her by marriage is a member…don’t be dense, man.

  • sugarglider

    Too bad she died, but I don’t see any reasons for extensive sympathy over any other murder victim.

    Once again, the reason is that someone who was related to her by marriage is a member…don’t be dense, man.

  • ScotchyScotch

    If the comments regarding her being attractive are directed to the relative of the victim on this site, then I don’t have a problem with that. If you feel that someone on here is like family, and feel that it is the right thing to say to make them feel a slight bit better – I have no problem with that.

    But, I think it is human nature to show more sympathy for people who are considered attractive. Just my take. And, I think it has been proven statistically in psychological studies…

    Ron

  • ScotchyScotch

    If the comments regarding her being attractive are directed to the relative of the victim on this site, then I don’t have a problem with that. If you feel that someone on here is like family, and feel that it is the right thing to say to make them feel a slight bit better – I have no problem with that.

    But, I think it is human nature to show more sympathy for people who are considered attractive. Just my take. And, I think it has been proven statistically in psychological studies…

    Ron

  • Anonymous

    there is a strong tendency on this site to see beauty when we are looking at victims and to see mostly the mockable even in the more objectively attractive-looking criminals.

    Agreed, and I’d think it’s quite obvious that’s what’s happening. The criminals get mocked, no matter what they look like, and the victims get compassion no matter what they look like. Pretty simple equation. So what?

  • sugarglider

    there is a strong tendency on this site to see beauty when we are looking at victims and to see mostly the mockable even in the more objectively attractive-looking criminals.

    Agreed, and I’d think it’s quite obvious that’s what’s happening. The criminals get mocked, no matter what they look like, and the victims get compassion no matter what they look like. Pretty simple equation. So what?

  • ScotchyScotch

    p.s. if your idea of a scumbag is someone who was convicted of nonviolent crime (fraud & theft), you must be a pretty delicate sort of guy.

    I carry myself, family and friends to a high moral code. If you commit a crime and especially if you were convicted in a court of law (fraud beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of your peers), I think you are a scumbag.

    There are different levels of being a scumbag. From petty larceny to pedofile to murderer. But, a scumbag non the less… I wish more people had higher moral values – Sugarglider… Clearly you don’t…

  • ScotchyScotch

    p.s. if your idea of a scumbag is someone who was convicted of nonviolent crime (fraud & theft), you must be a pretty delicate sort of guy.

    I carry myself, family and friends to a high moral code. If you commit a crime and especially if you were convicted in a court of law (fraud beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of your peers), I think you are a scumbag.

    There are different levels of being a scumbag. From petty larceny to pedofile to murderer. But, a scumbag non the less… I wish more people had higher moral values – Sugarglider… Clearly you don’t…

  • Anonymous

    At Dreamin’ Demon, sometimes we get a story that hits close to home because it involves one of our own.  This is such a case.   Our member Zibarro emailed us with this story today, and much of the information comes from her.   Words really don’t express our sadness for Zibarro and her family – you are in our thoughts.  Thank you for sharing Brittany’s story with us. – Imp and Morbid

    Scotch: here’s the header to the story. Above. Quoted. And it’s up at the top of the story itself.

    BTW, though, consider a victim like Starlena Pratt. She wasn’t a slender, pretty little thing. She got just as much sympathy. As far as *DD* is concerned, you are dead wrong, I do believe, that the “pretty” victims get more sympathy (I mean, most infants don’t fall into a pretty or ugly category). Now, do people often rely on praise or condemnation of physical appearance when it comes to showing compassion for a victim or for denouncing a perpetrator? Yes. And make of that what you will.

    But I don’t think there’s any justification for calling this girl a SCUMBAG over some fraud and nonviolent theft. Jesus christ. What’s next, maybe you’d like to say she’s to blame for getting murdered? I mean, really.

  • sugarglider

    At Dreamin’ Demon, sometimes we get a story that hits close to home because it involves one of our own.  This is such a case.   Our member Zibarro emailed us with this story today, and much of the information comes from her.   Words really don’t express our sadness for Zibarro and her family – you are in our thoughts.  Thank you for sharing Brittany’s story with us. – Imp and Morbid

    Scotch: here’s the header to the story. Above. Quoted. And it’s up at the top of the story itself.

    BTW, though, consider a victim like Starlena Pratt. She wasn’t a slender, pretty little thing. She got just as much sympathy. As far as *DD* is concerned, you are dead wrong, I do believe, that the “pretty” victims get more sympathy (I mean, most infants don’t fall into a pretty or ugly category). Now, do people often rely on praise or condemnation of physical appearance when it comes to showing compassion for a victim or for denouncing a perpetrator? Yes. And make of that what you will.

    But I don’t think there’s any justification for calling this girl a SCUMBAG over some fraud and nonviolent theft. Jesus christ. What’s next, maybe you’d like to say she’s to blame for getting murdered? I mean, really.

  • Anonymous

    I carry myself, family and friends to a high moral code. If you commit a crime and especially if you were convicted in a court of law (fraud beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of your peers), I think you are a scumbag.

    There are different levels of being a scumbag. From petty larceny to pedofile to murderer. But, a scumbag non the less… I wish more people had higher moral values – Sugarglider… Clearly you don’t…

    I just don’t see the world through one-dimensional glasses. Do I think someone is a scumbag for, say, stealing a bag of carrots from the Wal-mart Supercenter? No, I don’t. I would be more likely to think someone was a scumbag for seeing the world through one-dimensional glasses and for bashing a murder victim and calling her a scumbag.

    Just so we’re perfectly clear on what my moral compass is: In short, no, do not subscribe to your “value system” and your idea of “morals.” Nor am I so insensitive as to sum someone up as a “scumbag” when her own family member came on here and said that she was a caring person who meant a lot to people in her family.

  • sugarglider

    I carry myself, family and friends to a high moral code. If you commit a crime and especially if you were convicted in a court of law (fraud beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of your peers), I think you are a scumbag.

    There are different levels of being a scumbag. From petty larceny to pedofile to murderer. But, a scumbag non the less… I wish more people had higher moral values – Sugarglider… Clearly you don’t…

    I just don’t see the world through one-dimensional glasses. Do I think someone is a scumbag for, say, stealing a bag of carrots from the Wal-mart Supercenter? No, I don’t. I would be more likely to think someone was a scumbag for seeing the world through one-dimensional glasses and for bashing a murder victim and calling her a scumbag.

    Just so we’re perfectly clear on what my moral compass is: In short, no, do not subscribe to your “value system” and your idea of “morals.” Nor am I so insensitive as to sum someone up as a “scumbag” when her own family member came on here and said that she was a caring person who meant a lot to people in her family.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed, and I’d think it’s quite obvious that’s what’s happening. The criminals get mocked, no matter what they look like, and the victims get compassion no matter what they look like. Pretty simple equation. So what?

    So I was worried Scotchyscotch was being misunderstood, – but I took so long framing that response that he dug himself a hole in the mean time. I think “scumbag” is rather a strong word to use about someone who has so obviously paid dearly for whatever mistakes she made.

    I have nothing but sympathy for Brittany and the people she left behind. And I hope they find the monster who killed her very soon, – not only for their sakes, but for the sake of the community at large.

  • Abroad

    Agreed, and I’d think it’s quite obvious that’s what’s happening. The criminals get mocked, no matter what they look like, and the victims get compassion no matter what they look like. Pretty simple equation. So what?

    So I was worried Scotchyscotch was being misunderstood, – but I took so long framing that response that he dug himself a hole in the mean time. I think “scumbag” is rather a strong word to use about someone who has so obviously paid dearly for whatever mistakes she made.

    I have nothing but sympathy for Brittany and the people she left behind. And I hope they find the monster who killed her very soon, – not only for their sakes, but for the sake of the community at large.

  • Anonymous

    I have to sign off, Scotch. I think I’ve made myself clear. Maybe Zibarro will come on and argue w/ ya. I don’t know. But you’re right: you and I definitely do NOT see eye to eye. And I beg to disagree: in my opinion, you do NOT have “high mroal values.” I would say you’re an inflexible thinker and that’s not something I’m down with at all. You’re the kind of person who says, “stealing is stealing. Was it a loaf of bread and she was starving? Too bad! Cut off her hand!” There are societies where you’d be right at home, you know. In the meantime, if you can’t say something nice about Zibarro’s kin, maybe you could just stop yourself from typing on this particular thread about how this girl was a scumbag?

  • sugarglider

    I have to sign off, Scotch. I think I’ve made myself clear. Maybe Zibarro will come on and argue w/ ya. I don’t know. But you’re right: you and I definitely do NOT see eye to eye. And I beg to disagree: in my opinion, you do NOT have “high mroal values.” I would say you’re an inflexible thinker and that’s not something I’m down with at all. You’re the kind of person who says, “stealing is stealing. Was it a loaf of bread and she was starving? Too bad! Cut off her hand!” There are societies where you’d be right at home, you know. In the meantime, if you can’t say something nice about Zibarro’s kin, maybe you could just stop yourself from typing on this particular thread about how this girl was a scumbag?

  • http://www.myspace.com/kasieisthebest justrandom

    ScotchyScotch, it’s called MWWS – Missing white woman syndrome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

    It applies to race, ethnicity, looks, and visible social status. However, the media is generally the culprit.

    Here at DD, the responses are usually based on the gruesomeness of the crime. In this case, she was related by marriage to someone who is a member of this tight-knit online community, where we support our own, and that is why she is getting the comments.

    Also, if you go through ANY thread that posts pictures of victims, you’ll see numerous comments saying things like “what a beautiful little girl, so sorry that happened.” or “oh, what a sweet boy.”

    SHE’S A VICTIM.

    Now, we do tear apart the people who make these beautiful children victims. Daily.

    And that’s why I love this site! :)

    Now, back to school.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kasieisthebest justrandom

    ScotchyScotch, it’s called MWWS – Missing white woman syndrome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

    It applies to race, ethnicity, looks, and visible social status. However, the media is generally the culprit.

    Here at DD, the responses are usually based on the gruesomeness of the crime. In this case, she was related by marriage to someone who is a member of this tight-knit online community, where we support our own, and that is why she is getting the comments.

    Also, if you go through ANY thread that posts pictures of victims, you’ll see numerous comments saying things like “what a beautiful little girl, so sorry that happened.” or “oh, what a sweet boy.”

    SHE’S A VICTIM.

    Now, we do tear apart the people who make these beautiful children victims. Daily.

    And that’s why I love this site! :)

    Now, back to school.

  • Komak

    I carry myself, family and friends to a high moral code. If you commit a crime and especially if you were convicted in a court of law (fraud beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of your peers), I think you are a scumbag.

    Oh, Scotchyscotch…how high is your pedestal? I want to build one just like it…oh so high…..by stepping on all those “scumbags” beneath me.

    Not important….not my problem….step …step…step…..I imagine there are alot of teenagers to step on huh….hell I could probably get my pedestal half completed, by stepping on teens….they ARE the worst decision makers……

    I imagine about halfway up, I might have to leave my understanding, compassion and empathy behind….(I know the air that high-up makes it difficult to carry too many things)….

    I won’t leave anyone behind will I, anyone I love? Did you leave anyone….you know someone close to you, who perhaps made a bad decision….I know you never made one…..but……did it break your heart to continue your climb…..probably….damn disappointing scumbag…

    Broken hearts are simply extra weight, so I figure you left that behind too, just as you approached the top……no heart….must have felt weird…..I am sure…..

    You replaced that whole in your chest though…..tell me what you used….oh superior …..of the high moral code…..just how high is your pedestal again?

  • Komak

    I carry myself, family and friends to a high moral code. If you commit a crime and especially if you were convicted in a court of law (fraud beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of your peers), I think you are a scumbag.

    Oh, Scotchyscotch…how high is your pedestal? I want to build one just like it…oh so high…..by stepping on all those “scumbags” beneath me.

    Not important….not my problem….step …step…step…..I imagine there are alot of teenagers to step on huh….hell I could probably get my pedestal half completed, by stepping on teens….they ARE the worst decision makers……

    I imagine about halfway up, I might have to leave my understanding, compassion and empathy behind….(I know the air that high-up makes it difficult to carry too many things)….

    I won’t leave anyone behind will I, anyone I love? Did you leave anyone….you know someone close to you, who perhaps made a bad decision….I know you never made one…..but……did it break your heart to continue your climb…..probably….damn disappointing scumbag…

    Broken hearts are simply extra weight, so I figure you left that behind too, just as you approached the top……no heart….must have felt weird…..I am sure…..

    You replaced that whole in your chest though…..tell me what you used….oh superior …..of the high moral code…..just how high is your pedestal again?

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Sugarglider – You deserve to be the first I address on here.
    First, thank you for defending my feelings as well as those of her family (some of which are now my family) and friends.

    As for ScotchyScotch? I’d rather have 10 Brittany’s in my life than 1 of him. I despise no one more than the “Holier Than Thou” crowd who thinks their shit don’t stink!

    Newsflash Scotchy…. someone in your family has done something illegal or immoral. Perhaps even you. Ran a red light in your life? Sped down the highway? Forgot your seatbelt? Not paid ALL the taxes you should have? Did you turn yourself in? Did YOU pay YOUR debt to society? Brittany did.

    I won’t call you names (like you did to Brittany) because I refuse to stoop to your level. I’ll just say you might want to get down off your “High Horse” before someone knocks you off.

    To everyone who DOES care:
    I have new information but unfortunately I can’t share it just yet. Suffice to say… there may yet be justice for Brittany. Fingers crossed, prayers said.

    RIP Britt.

  • Zibarro

    Sugarglider – You deserve to be the first I address on here.
    First, thank you for defending my feelings as well as those of her family (some of which are now my family) and friends.

    As for ScotchyScotch? I’d rather have 10 Brittany’s in my life than 1 of him. I despise no one more than the “Holier Than Thou” crowd who thinks their shit don’t stink!

    Newsflash Scotchy…. someone in your family has done something illegal or immoral. Perhaps even you. Ran a red light in your life? Sped down the highway? Forgot your seatbelt? Not paid ALL the taxes you should have? Did you turn yourself in? Did YOU pay YOUR debt to society? Brittany did.

    I won’t call you names (like you did to Brittany) because I refuse to stoop to your level. I’ll just say you might want to get down off your “High Horse” before someone knocks you off.

    To everyone who DOES care:
    I have new information but unfortunately I can’t share it just yet. Suffice to say… there may yet be justice for Brittany. Fingers crossed, prayers said.

    RIP Britt.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Thank you also to Komak, Justrandom and Abroad.

    Komak, you actually got a smile from me on that one! A much needed smile! Thanks.

  • Zibarro

    Thank you also to Komak, Justrandom and Abroad.

    Komak, you actually got a smile from me on that one! A much needed smile! Thanks.

  • ScotchyScotch

    My last comments on this topic:

    1.) I have an equal amount of sympathy for her as any murder victim, regardless of her beauty or lack of beauty.

    2.) I would have withheld my personal opinion of her being a scumbag if we hadn’t gotten to the back-and-forth argument about the point I was trying to make and that a few on here cannot grasp: I notice that bloggers on this site provide more sympathy for attractive victims than unattractive victims. Sorry that I consider someone who steals someone elses money and goes to prison for it a scumbag. [be honest that if she stole your money, you know you would think of her as a scumbag] No one is perfect. However, I have never stolen money or property from anyone – let alone been prosecuted and convicted for it. If I, anyone in my family or my best friends did that – I would consider them “scumbags”. Lastly, for the people on this site – if you don’t consider someone who stole money and property as a scumbag, I am led to believe that you either have done or are committing those crimes.

    Stay Classy Demonites!

    Have a wonderful evening.

    Out.

  • ScotchyScotch

    My last comments on this topic:

    1.) I have an equal amount of sympathy for her as any murder victim, regardless of her beauty or lack of beauty.

    2.) I would have withheld my personal opinion of her being a scumbag if we hadn’t gotten to the back-and-forth argument about the point I was trying to make and that a few on here cannot grasp: I notice that bloggers on this site provide more sympathy for attractive victims than unattractive victims. Sorry that I consider someone who steals someone elses money and goes to prison for it a scumbag. [be honest that if she stole your money, you know you would think of her as a scumbag] No one is perfect. However, I have never stolen money or property from anyone – let alone been prosecuted and convicted for it. If I, anyone in my family or my best friends did that – I would consider them “scumbags”. Lastly, for the people on this site – if you don’t consider someone who stole money and property as a scumbag, I am led to believe that you either have done or are committing those crimes.

    Stay Classy Demonites!

    Have a wonderful evening.

    Out.

  • Komak

    Komak, you actually got a smile from me on that one! A much needed smile! Thanks.

    However, I neglected , to offer my sincerest sympathy, you and yours— to your son-in-law and his family. It is tragic when anyone dies at the hands of another….untimely and horrible……Peace of the heart…. is often illusive….however….that is my hope for all of Brittney’s family members.

  • Komak

    Komak, you actually got a smile from me on that one! A much needed smile! Thanks.

    However, I neglected , to offer my sincerest sympathy, you and yours— to your son-in-law and his family. It is tragic when anyone dies at the hands of another….untimely and horrible……Peace of the heart…. is often illusive….however….that is my hope for all of Brittney’s family members.

  • Anonymous

    To everyone who DOES care:I have new information but unfortunately I can’t share it just yet. Suffice to say… there may yet be justice for Brittany. Fingers crossed, prayers said.

    Good news, Zibarro! I’m hoping.

  • sugarglider

    To everyone who DOES care:I have new information but unfortunately I can’t share it just yet. Suffice to say… there may yet be justice for Brittany. Fingers crossed, prayers said.

    Good news, Zibarro! I’m hoping.

  • Anonymous

    2.) I would have withheld my personal opinion of her being a scumbag if we hadn’t gotten to the back-and-forth argument about the point I was trying to make and that a few on here cannot grasp:

    No one has had any trouble grasping any of your points, including your suggestion in *your 1st post on the thread* that you were on the fence as to whether she had it coming to her.

    I notice that bloggers on this site provide more sympathy for attractive victims than unattractive victims.

    If I can’t “grasp” this, it’s because I haven’t “noticed” it. Feel free to give some empirical evidence, some statistical analysis.

    Sorry that I consider someone who steals someone elses money and goes to prison for it a scumbag.

    What a hypocrite. You’re not sorry. You probably should be. You have no idea what she stole or whom she stole it from. And she PAID her debt. She did her time in jail.

    be honest that if she stole your money, you know you would think of her as a scumbag

    Oh, my bad, I didn’t realize Brittany Tate stole some money from you.

    Lastly, for the people on this site – if you don’t consider someone who stole money and property as a scumbag, I am led to believe that you either have done or are committing those crimes.

    This last bit simply proves you are a very poor logician.

  • sugarglider

    2.) I would have withheld my personal opinion of her being a scumbag if we hadn’t gotten to the back-and-forth argument about the point I was trying to make and that a few on here cannot grasp:

    No one has had any trouble grasping any of your points, including your suggestion in *your 1st post on the thread* that you were on the fence as to whether she had it coming to her.

    I notice that bloggers on this site provide more sympathy for attractive victims than unattractive victims.

    If I can’t “grasp” this, it’s because I haven’t “noticed” it. Feel free to give some empirical evidence, some statistical analysis.

    Sorry that I consider someone who steals someone elses money and goes to prison for it a scumbag.

    What a hypocrite. You’re not sorry. You probably should be. You have no idea what she stole or whom she stole it from. And she PAID her debt. She did her time in jail.

    be honest that if she stole your money, you know you would think of her as a scumbag

    Oh, my bad, I didn’t realize Brittany Tate stole some money from you.

    Lastly, for the people on this site – if you don’t consider someone who stole money and property as a scumbag, I am led to believe that you either have done or are committing those crimes.

    This last bit simply proves you are a very poor logician.

  • Anonymous

    As for ScotchyScotch? I’d rather have 10 Brittany’s in my life than 1 of him. I despise no one more than the “Holier Than Thou” crowd who thinks their shit don’t stink!

    Newsflash Scotchy…. someone in your family has done something illegal or immoral. Perhaps even you. Ran a red light in your life? Sped down the highway? Forgot your seatbelt? Not paid ALL the taxes you should have? Did you turn yourself in? Did YOU pay YOUR debt to society? Brittany did.

    LOL. I’m guessing his thing is hookers.Oh, and, stay off the road after the scotches, Scotchy.

  • sugarglider

    As for ScotchyScotch? I’d rather have 10 Brittany’s in my life than 1 of him. I despise no one more than the “Holier Than Thou” crowd who thinks their shit don’t stink!

    Newsflash Scotchy…. someone in your family has done something illegal or immoral. Perhaps even you. Ran a red light in your life? Sped down the highway? Forgot your seatbelt? Not paid ALL the taxes you should have? Did you turn yourself in? Did YOU pay YOUR debt to society? Brittany did.

    LOL. I’m guessing his thing is hookers.Oh, and, stay off the road after the scotches, Scotchy.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, and for the record: personally, I haven’t said a damn thing about Brittany’s appearance other than to say I think those are probably colored contacts.

    Meanwhile, over on the Hunter Johnson thread, I’ve been quite cheerfully insulting about her blonde, blue-eyed, richy rich, caucasoid cheerleaderness. So much for that statistical analysis.

  • sugarglider

    Oh, and for the record: personally, I haven’t said a damn thing about Brittany’s appearance other than to say I think those are probably colored contacts.

    Meanwhile, over on the Hunter Johnson thread, I’ve been quite cheerfully insulting about her blonde, blue-eyed, richy rich, caucasoid cheerleaderness. So much for that statistical analysis.

  • justmeintn

    I’m sorry for the loss and I hope the news you have is great.

    ScotchyScotch: I’m sorry you have apparently never sinned.It still doesn’t give anybody the right to call the “victim” a scumbag. I can personally say I don’t have a record. Would you like to check? Oh wait ,there was a ticket last year for no seatbelt…damn. Anyway, my point is I have never seen anyone here at DD show any disrespect for a victim or slam the victim for their past.

  • justmeintn

    I’m sorry for the loss and I hope the news you have is great.

    ScotchyScotch: I’m sorry you have apparently never sinned.It still doesn’t give anybody the right to call the “victim” a scumbag. I can personally say I don’t have a record. Would you like to check? Oh wait ,there was a ticket last year for no seatbelt…damn. Anyway, my point is I have never seen anyone here at DD show any disrespect for a victim or slam the victim for their past.

  • Chrissey

    I first want to also offer my condolences to the family. I can’t imagine how difficult this has been to deal with.

    Is there any lead on her boyfriend? Sounds like he’s someone that should be looked at.

  • Chrissey

    I first want to also offer my condolences to the family. I can’t imagine how difficult this has been to deal with.

    Is there any lead on her boyfriend? Sounds like he’s someone that should be looked at.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Is there any lead on her boyfriend? Sounds like he’s someone that should be looked at.

    I think I need to clarify something here.

    The boyfriend that got her started in this crap is not in her life anymore (as far as we know) She had recently been dating someone else. Before her brother made her myspace private, there was a slide show of this new boyfriend that Brittany had created. No one we’ve talked to believes the other bf has had contact with Brittany since her release.

    I wish like hell I could tell you all what my daughter and son-in-law informed me of yesterday… but since the news isn’t reporting anything yet… I would hate to jeapordize the case in any way. I promise tho… as soon as I can safely say something … this is the first place I’m coming!

    Once again, thank you to everyone who has remembered that, regardless of Brittany’s past, she is still the VICTIM here. She wasn’t killed by some homeowner while burglarizing a home, she wasn’t killed by police fleeing from a crime… she was killed by some sick, cowardly bastard who then dumped her nearly naked body in the river – where a man and his SON were unlucky enough to discover her. How traumatizing for them!
    So many of these forums (not this one) are full of people hating and saying such awful things about Brittany – it really breaks my heart. 99% of those commenting never even knew her. She WAS sweet. She WAS naive. She WAS trying to turn her life around. Their comments can’t hurt Brittany…. but they CAN hurt her family. They DO hurt her family. I swear that some of these people would vote for the death penalty for ANY crime. They obviously believe that, even tho Brittany served her time, she still deserved to die a horrible death. Sad. So very sad.
    I am staying away from those forums and have encouraged my SIL and daughter to do the same.

    Thank you D’D members. You have no idea how much you help me to help my SIL deal with all of this.

  • Zibarro

    Is there any lead on her boyfriend? Sounds like he’s someone that should be looked at.

    I think I need to clarify something here.

    The boyfriend that got her started in this crap is not in her life anymore (as far as we know) She had recently been dating someone else. Before her brother made her myspace private, there was a slide show of this new boyfriend that Brittany had created. No one we’ve talked to believes the other bf has had contact with Brittany since her release.

    I wish like hell I could tell you all what my daughter and son-in-law informed me of yesterday… but since the news isn’t reporting anything yet… I would hate to jeapordize the case in any way. I promise tho… as soon as I can safely say something … this is the first place I’m coming!

    Once again, thank you to everyone who has remembered that, regardless of Brittany’s past, she is still the VICTIM here. She wasn’t killed by some homeowner while burglarizing a home, she wasn’t killed by police fleeing from a crime… she was killed by some sick, cowardly bastard who then dumped her nearly naked body in the river – where a man and his SON were unlucky enough to discover her. How traumatizing for them!
    So many of these forums (not this one) are full of people hating and saying such awful things about Brittany – it really breaks my heart. 99% of those commenting never even knew her. She WAS sweet. She WAS naive. She WAS trying to turn her life around. Their comments can’t hurt Brittany…. but they CAN hurt her family. They DO hurt her family. I swear that some of these people would vote for the death penalty for ANY crime. They obviously believe that, even tho Brittany served her time, she still deserved to die a horrible death. Sad. So very sad.
    I am staying away from those forums and have encouraged my SIL and daughter to do the same.

    Thank you D’D members. You have no idea how much you help me to help my SIL deal with all of this.

  • Chrissey

    The boyfriend that got her started in this crap is not in her life anymore (as far as we know) She had recently been dating someone else. Before her brother made her myspace private, there was a slide show of this new boyfriend that Brittany had created. No one we’ve talked to believes the other bf has had contact with Brittany since her release.

    I’m sorry. I misunderstood. Thanks for setting me straight.

    Hopefully, you can share your information with us soon. But, of course, we don’t want you to say anything that could jeopardize the investigation!

  • Chrissey

    The boyfriend that got her started in this crap is not in her life anymore (as far as we know) She had recently been dating someone else. Before her brother made her myspace private, there was a slide show of this new boyfriend that Brittany had created. No one we’ve talked to believes the other bf has had contact with Brittany since her release.

    I’m sorry. I misunderstood. Thanks for setting me straight.

    Hopefully, you can share your information with us soon. But, of course, we don’t want you to say anything that could jeopardize the investigation!

  • Anonymous

    I swear that some of these people would vote for the death penalty for ANY crime. They obviously believe that, even tho Brittany served her time, she still deserved to die a horrible death.

    Eh, they should move to Iran or something. They’d be more at home.

  • sugarglider

    I swear that some of these people would vote for the death penalty for ANY crime. They obviously believe that, even tho Brittany served her time, she still deserved to die a horrible death.

    Eh, they should move to Iran or something. They’d be more at home.

  • hellbettie

    What a horrible thing to have happen, my sympathy to you and your family Zibarro!

    I understand trying to make yourself better, after something like prison happens to you. That’s hard enough. You shouldn’t have to hear about her being verbally abused on her, SHE’S had enough. She paid the ultimate price, obviously. So, to call her names is just really less than tactful.

    I also hold people to a high moral standard. This includes the old saying, if you don’t have anything nice to say, just don’t say it. Especially when we’re speaking of a murder victim. None of what she did, made it alright to kill her, and dispose of her that way :(

    Really, what are people coming to. Most are sympathetic on here, and that is comforting, but the people who’ve said the nasty stuff. How can you live with yourself, verbally assaulting a murdered woman, who can’t defend herself?!

    Sorry to kick the sand up on this one, but that really got me pissed right off. That lets blame the victim thing, is NOT alright.

  • hellbettie

    What a horrible thing to have happen, my sympathy to you and your family Zibarro!

    I understand trying to make yourself better, after something like prison happens to you. That’s hard enough. You shouldn’t have to hear about her being verbally abused on her, SHE’S had enough. She paid the ultimate price, obviously. So, to call her names is just really less than tactful.

    I also hold people to a high moral standard. This includes the old saying, if you don’t have anything nice to say, just don’t say it. Especially when we’re speaking of a murder victim. None of what she did, made it alright to kill her, and dispose of her that way :(

    Really, what are people coming to. Most are sympathetic on here, and that is comforting, but the people who’ve said the nasty stuff. How can you live with yourself, verbally assaulting a murdered woman, who can’t defend herself?!

    Sorry to kick the sand up on this one, but that really got me pissed right off. That lets blame the victim thing, is NOT alright.

  • http://www.geocities.com/mystys_heartland_2008/index.htm Wyks

    Someone above said “Looking at her picture, you can visibly tell she was a caring and good person”.

    How ridiculus!!! She was caring and good enough to go to prison for being a scumbag…

    Okies, hold on! There are actually some very decent, caring, and good people (young and old) who get mixed up with the wrong people, and/or simply make wrong choices in life, and find themselves paying the consequences for that. Wrong choices do NOT make such people ‘scumbags’. Please do not make that leap for everyone, everywhere.

  • http://www.geocities.com/mystys_heartland_2008/index.htm Wyks

    Someone above said “Looking at her picture, you can visibly tell she was a caring and good person”.

    How ridiculus!!! She was caring and good enough to go to prison for being a scumbag…

    Okies, hold on! There are actually some very decent, caring, and good people (young and old) who get mixed up with the wrong people, and/or simply make wrong choices in life, and find themselves paying the consequences for that. Wrong choices do NOT make such people ‘scumbags’. Please do not make that leap for everyone, everywhere.

  • http://www.geocities.com/mystys_heartland_2008/index.htm Wyks

    My sympathies to Brittany’s family and friends. Am hoping they stay on top of this case, and figure out what happened and who did this.

  • http://www.geocities.com/mystys_heartland_2008/index.htm Wyks

    My sympathies to Brittany’s family and friends. Am hoping they stay on top of this case, and figure out what happened and who did this.

  • http://www.geocities.com/mystys_heartland_2008/index.htm Wyks

    Errr, did you read the STORY? Are you even slightly aware that this person was related to someone who regularly posts on the Dreamin Demon? You might want to consider that because this person was killed, people are trying to be compassionate and say nice things. Not just about the deceased, but to her family member who is a DD member. If you want to bash victims, maybe you should do it some other site where it will be appreciated, rather than heartlessly slamming someone whose own family member is around and is reading what you write? Have some compassion, dude.

    Well said Sugarglider! I totally agree.

  • http://www.geocities.com/mystys_heartland_2008/index.htm Wyks

    Errr, did you read the STORY? Are you even slightly aware that this person was related to someone who regularly posts on the Dreamin Demon? You might want to consider that because this person was killed, people are trying to be compassionate and say nice things. Not just about the deceased, but to her family member who is a DD member. If you want to bash victims, maybe you should do it some other site where it will be appreciated, rather than heartlessly slamming someone whose own family member is around and is reading what you write? Have some compassion, dude.

    Well said Sugarglider! I totally agree.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Although they haven’t arrested anyone yet… they do have strong leads (which we are aware of) Hopefully an arrest and announcement will come soon. Meantime, a Memorial was held at the river today and the news was there. I’ll try to embed the video, but if it won’t work, I’ll paste the link .. as well as the story.

    Family holds memorial for river homicide victim

    Posted: Oct 8, 2008 03:57 PM

    Updated: Oct 8, 2008 04:40 PM

    Mary Milz/Eyewitness News

    Indianapolis – A family is mourning the loss of their daughter as police continue to investigate the woman’s homicide.

    “Last time I talked to her Monday night she was so happy,” said Tina Rethmeyer. She was joined by several dozen others as she walked down a rocky path to the White River’s edge. They came to say good-bye to Rethmeyer’s 21-year-old daughter.

    Fishermen found Brittany Tate’s partially-clad body floating in the White River last Friday.

    “Whatever they wanted she would have given them. They didn’t have to kill her,” said Rethmeyer.

    Police ruled Tate’s death a homicide, but have yet to reveal how she died or name any suspects.

    “I just want to punish them to the fullest because they took a girl’s life who didn’t deserve to die,” said Rethmeyer.

    Rethmeyer says her daughter had a hard life. Like her mother, Tate had done time in prison, for burglary. Tate had just gotten out last month, but Rethmeyer says her daughter was working hard to turn her life around.

    “When she was at prison she got her GED. She took a substance abuse program for early release,” said Rethmeyer.

    “She was one of the girls not involved in heavier crimes,” said Carol Wellman, a case manager at Liberty Hall, a women’s correctional facility in Indianapolis.

    “What I saw in her was someone who wanted to change, wanted to make a difference with her life,” said Wellman.

    While friends created a makeshift memorial, Rethmeyer hopes her daughter’s short life will be remembered in other ways as well.

    “As a person, she’d give you the shirt off her back. If she loved someone she wore her heart on her sleeve. She was great, beautiful, kindhearted, everything you wanted her to be,” said Rethmeyer.

    http://www.wthr.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?vt1=v&clipFormat=flv&clipId1=3004525&at1=News&h1=Rivermemorial

  • Zibarro

    Although they haven’t arrested anyone yet… they do have strong leads (which we are aware of) Hopefully an arrest and announcement will come soon. Meantime, a Memorial was held at the river today and the news was there. I’ll try to embed the video, but if it won’t work, I’ll paste the link .. as well as the story.

    Family holds memorial for river homicide victim

    Posted: Oct 8, 2008 03:57 PM

    Updated: Oct 8, 2008 04:40 PM

    Mary Milz/Eyewitness News

    Indianapolis – A family is mourning the loss of their daughter as police continue to investigate the woman’s homicide.

    “Last time I talked to her Monday night she was so happy,” said Tina Rethmeyer. She was joined by several dozen others as she walked down a rocky path to the White River’s edge. They came to say good-bye to Rethmeyer’s 21-year-old daughter.

    Fishermen found Brittany Tate’s partially-clad body floating in the White River last Friday.

    “Whatever they wanted she would have given them. They didn’t have to kill her,” said Rethmeyer.

    Police ruled Tate’s death a homicide, but have yet to reveal how she died or name any suspects.

    “I just want to punish them to the fullest because they took a girl’s life who didn’t deserve to die,” said Rethmeyer.

    Rethmeyer says her daughter had a hard life. Like her mother, Tate had done time in prison, for burglary. Tate had just gotten out last month, but Rethmeyer says her daughter was working hard to turn her life around.

    “When she was at prison she got her GED. She took a substance abuse program for early release,” said Rethmeyer.

    “She was one of the girls not involved in heavier crimes,” said Carol Wellman, a case manager at Liberty Hall, a women’s correctional facility in Indianapolis.

    “What I saw in her was someone who wanted to change, wanted to make a difference with her life,” said Wellman.

    While friends created a makeshift memorial, Rethmeyer hopes her daughter’s short life will be remembered in other ways as well.

    “As a person, she’d give you the shirt off her back. If she loved someone she wore her heart on her sleeve. She was great, beautiful, kindhearted, everything you wanted her to be,” said Rethmeyer.

    http://www.wthr.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?vt1=v&clipFormat=flv&clipId1=3004525&at1=News&h1=Rivermemorial

  • porcelain

    Well hello
    “Ron”
    Not that my comments need to be justified to a mental midget but for the rest of the board’s benefit I will further explain my comment.

    She looked to me to be very sweet.
    Sometimes you can get a sense of that when you view a picture..atleast I do anyhow

    I feel equally empathetic to all victims whether they fucking look like Angelina Jolie or Walter Matthou.

    Why in the hell would you call her a “scum bag”
    petty crimes under the influence of her boyfriend hardly makes her a scum bag.
    And only a heartless degenerate would call her that knowing full well that someone close to her belongs to this site

    A real “scum bag” is half the people we see on here you know.. the ones that kill their children

    The real tragedy here is that a young woman is dead and no one knows why

    So lets remove our helmets and knee pads, get off the short bus and focus on what REALLY matters and that is the victim.

    FIN

  • porcelain

    Well hello
    “Ron”
    Not that my comments need to be justified to a mental midget but for the rest of the board’s benefit I will further explain my comment.

    She looked to me to be very sweet.
    Sometimes you can get a sense of that when you view a picture..atleast I do anyhow

    I feel equally empathetic to all victims whether they fucking look like Angelina Jolie or Walter Matthou.

    Why in the hell would you call her a “scum bag”
    petty crimes under the influence of her boyfriend hardly makes her a scum bag.
    And only a heartless degenerate would call her that knowing full well that someone close to her belongs to this site

    A real “scum bag” is half the people we see on here you know.. the ones that kill their children

    The real tragedy here is that a young woman is dead and no one knows why

    So lets remove our helmets and knee pads, get off the short bus and focus on what REALLY matters and that is the victim.

    FIN

  • Anonymous

    I feel really bad for Brittany’s mom. Considering what she had been through with her own history, I’m sure it was so hard to watch her daughter go down a similar path–and then she must have been so proud and hopeful seeing Brittany turn her life around.

    What a waste. Glad to hear she won’t end up in the unsolved cases file…or so it sounds like from Zibarro’s update!

  • sugarglider

    I feel really bad for Brittany’s mom. Considering what she had been through with her own history, I’m sure it was so hard to watch her daughter go down a similar path–and then she must have been so proud and hopeful seeing Brittany turn her life around.

    What a waste. Glad to hear she won’t end up in the unsolved cases file…or so it sounds like from Zibarro’s update!

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com/ CheekySweetie

    Dude, you were wrong to make your little stand as you did. Your point about appearance being mentioned is dumb. Period. Appearance is mentioned every time a baby is killed and we say “Oh, she was so pretty!” or whatever. Big freaking deal. None of us REALLY think an ugly baby dying is less of a shame than a pretty baby dying.

    People fuck up. I did it a lot when I was 21 and I still do it at 31. You never did? She did time for her crime, got her GED in school, and even an employee at the jail she was in said she was motivated to change. She got out and stayed out of trouble. But trouble found her.

    You know what I always say? If the whole world says you’re an asshole…maybe you’re just an asshole.

    Looks like the world is calling you an asshole. Might be time to re-evaluate.

    My sympathies go out to the family and I hope she receives the justice she, and ANY murder victim, deserve.

  • http://www.cheekysweetie.com CheekySweetie

    Dude, you were wrong to make your little stand as you did. Your point about appearance being mentioned is dumb. Period. Appearance is mentioned every time a baby is killed and we say “Oh, she was so pretty!” or whatever. Big freaking deal. None of us REALLY think an ugly baby dying is less of a shame than a pretty baby dying.

    People fuck up. I did it a lot when I was 21 and I still do it at 31. You never did? She did time for her crime, got her GED in school, and even an employee at the jail she was in said she was motivated to change. She got out and stayed out of trouble. But trouble found her.

    You know what I always say? If the whole world says you’re an asshole…maybe you’re just an asshole.

    Looks like the world is calling you an asshole. Might be time to re-evaluate.

    My sympathies go out to the family and I hope she receives the justice she, and ANY murder victim, deserve.

  • tisha

    Very pretty girl. To be absent from the body means present with the lord our god. I will be praying for the famliy that our lord gives you peace and rest.

  • tisha

    Very pretty girl. To be absent from the body means present with the lord our god. I will be praying for the famliy that our lord gives you peace and rest.

  • Wonder

    http://www.wthr.com/global/vid…..ermemorial

    oh that was nice her counselor came – I noticed the matching shirts with the baby picture on the back but I couldn’t see the front – were these shirts made for Brittany?

    It looks like the video had the orginal picture of Brittany without the enhancement – Now I see those were not contacts looks like a photo program.

    Going down to the River like that was probably a healthy and healing thing to do. There will be alot more visits there by her closest friends and family off and on.
    Zibarro were you there ? Which one are you :) oh do tell…

    Very sad indeed, hopefully your resources are correct and that the mystery will be solved very soon. That has to be the worst thing never knowing the truth. Bless you and your family.

  • Wonder

    http://www.wthr.com/global/vid…..ermemorial

    oh that was nice her counselor came – I noticed the matching shirts with the baby picture on the back but I couldn’t see the front – were these shirts made for Brittany?

    It looks like the video had the orginal picture of Brittany without the enhancement – Now I see those were not contacts looks like a photo program.

    Going down to the River like that was probably a healthy and healing thing to do. There will be alot more visits there by her closest friends and family off and on.
    Zibarro were you there ? Which one are you :) oh do tell…

    Very sad indeed, hopefully your resources are correct and that the mystery will be solved very soon. That has to be the worst thing never knowing the truth. Bless you and your family.

  • mandiebear07

    i have read through this thread and some things that were said were just rude in my opinion..mainly from the scotchy scotch whoever the hell i dont really care about the name lol. but im truly very sorry for this family i cant imagine how they must feel my dear best friend is related to her and i know she is a wreck and does not appreciate the rude comments made about her late family member. i did not have the pleasure of meeting brittany but i am sure i wouldve liked her. from things i have heard from my friend she seemed like a great girl aside from being in prison..that does not matter she did not deserve what she got and i do hope the family finds justice. if i was already in my career i would be out there finding justice for her but unfortunately im still in college so i cant investigate shit yet. :-( i hope the family is beginning to do ok they are all in my prayers including brittany.

  • mandiebear07

    i have read through this thread and some things that were said were just rude in my opinion..mainly from the scotchy scotch whoever the hell i dont really care about the name lol. but im truly very sorry for this family i cant imagine how they must feel my dear best friend is related to her and i know she is a wreck and does not appreciate the rude comments made about her late family member. i did not have the pleasure of meeting brittany but i am sure i wouldve liked her. from things i have heard from my friend she seemed like a great girl aside from being in prison..that does not matter she did not deserve what she got and i do hope the family finds justice. if i was already in my career i would be out there finding justice for her but unfortunately im still in college so i cant investigate shit yet. :-( i hope the family is beginning to do ok they are all in my prayers including brittany.

  • Unamused Cat

    Three suspects are now in custody. Story w/mugs at http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=9169486&nav=9Tai

  • Unamused Cat

    Three suspects are now in custody. Story w/mugs at http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=9169486&nav=9Tai

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Going down to the River like that was probably a healthy and healing thing to do. There will be alot more visits there by her closest friends and family off and on.
    Zibarro were you there ? Which one are you oh do tell…

    I think it helped a lot. My SIL was there. I wasn’t. [I live 1 1/2 hours north of where they were and found out about it about the time it started.] He said it really helped to be at the place where Brittany was (most likely) last alive. He said it was kinda surreal seeing how easy it was to drive a vehicle down to the waters edge and dump a person. There were tire tracks still visible — right down into the water. Seems whoever dumped her there hoped she would be washed downstream… but she wasn’t. When she surfaced, she floated a few feet and got tangled in some weeds/brush at the waters edge. Her car has yet to be found. It’s been rumored that police plan to drag the river — but I don’t know for sure if they will. It could be where she was murdered.
    Anyway… my SIL won’t really begin healing until they announce an arrest. The rest of the family seems to feel the same.

    mandiebear07 — I’m really sorry your friend is suffering. I know what it’s like to be with someone who cries and asks over and over “Why?” I wish I had the answer for everyone.. but I don’t. I myself ask the same question. Try to keep her from reading negative posts. Some people get so high on their pedestals, they truly forget what it’s like down here in the real world. Eventually, they will fall… and God help them… it’s going to be a long, hard, painful fall. I really pray for them (and their families)
    Give your friend my best ( I probably know her if she’s from Cumberland or the surrounding area) I hope for everyone’s sake closure comes soon and there is justice for Brittany!

  • Zibarro

    Going down to the River like that was probably a healthy and healing thing to do. There will be alot more visits there by her closest friends and family off and on.
    Zibarro were you there ? Which one are you oh do tell…

    I think it helped a lot. My SIL was there. I wasn’t. [I live 1 1/2 hours north of where they were and found out about it about the time it started.] He said it really helped to be at the place where Brittany was (most likely) last alive. He said it was kinda surreal seeing how easy it was to drive a vehicle down to the waters edge and dump a person. There were tire tracks still visible — right down into the water. Seems whoever dumped her there hoped she would be washed downstream… but she wasn’t. When she surfaced, she floated a few feet and got tangled in some weeds/brush at the waters edge. Her car has yet to be found. It’s been rumored that police plan to drag the river — but I don’t know for sure if they will. It could be where she was murdered.
    Anyway… my SIL won’t really begin healing until they announce an arrest. The rest of the family seems to feel the same.

    mandiebear07 — I’m really sorry your friend is suffering. I know what it’s like to be with someone who cries and asks over and over “Why?” I wish I had the answer for everyone.. but I don’t. I myself ask the same question. Try to keep her from reading negative posts. Some people get so high on their pedestals, they truly forget what it’s like down here in the real world. Eventually, they will fall… and God help them… it’s going to be a long, hard, painful fall. I really pray for them (and their families)
    Give your friend my best ( I probably know her if she’s from Cumberland or the surrounding area) I hope for everyone’s sake closure comes soon and there is justice for Brittany!

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Three suspects are now in custody. Story w/mugs at http://www.wthr.com/Global/sto…..p;nav=9Tai

    THANK YOU AND THANK GOD!!

    I’ve been sitting on some of that info for a week now! Finally, charges are brought! I wish they were harsher for the other 2… but at least they got them all.

    Just pray they all get max sentences and can’t plea down on this. That would really be an injustice. Brittany didn’t get to negotiate… neither should they!

  • Zibarro

    Three suspects are now in custody. Story w/mugs at http://www.wthr.com/Global/sto…..p;nav=9Tai

    THANK YOU AND THANK GOD!!

    I’ve been sitting on some of that info for a week now! Finally, charges are brought! I wish they were harsher for the other 2… but at least they got them all.

    Just pray they all get max sentences and can’t plea down on this. That would really be an injustice. Brittany didn’t get to negotiate… neither should they!

  • Lynn

    I don’t get it. Someone pulls out a gun and shoots your girlfriend in the head and you don’t turn them in? WTF

    My heart goes out to Brittanys family. I hope the judge nails them to the wall. I’m so sorry.

  • Lynn

    I don’t get it. Someone pulls out a gun and shoots your girlfriend in the head and you don’t turn them in? WTF

    My heart goes out to Brittanys family. I hope the judge nails them to the wall. I’m so sorry.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get it. Someone pulls out a gun and shoots your girlfriend in the head and you don’t turn them in? WTF

    If the guy was still waving the gun around, I might be able to understand how the two others might have gone along with dumping the body and pretending to him they were going to cover up; – but surely they could have gone to the police station as soon as they were away from him?

    And if he persuaded them that it was an accident (“I didn’t realise it was loaded, man!”) the police should still have been the first call to make. Very difficult to accept that it might have been an accident with the actions they took following on.

    How the h*** did they think they would not come under suspicion?

  • Abroad

    I don’t get it. Someone pulls out a gun and shoots your girlfriend in the head and you don’t turn them in? WTF

    If the guy was still waving the gun around, I might be able to understand how the two others might have gone along with dumping the body and pretending to him they were going to cover up; – but surely they could have gone to the police station as soon as they were away from him?

    And if he persuaded them that it was an accident (“I didn’t realise it was loaded, man!”) the police should still have been the first call to make. Very difficult to accept that it might have been an accident with the actions they took following on.

    How the h*** did they think they would not come under suspicion?

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    Zibarro–I am sure your family is relieved that the “truth” is coming out. My condolences to you and all of Brittany’s friends and family. I do hope that all three that were involved will be penal-ized to the fullest extent. I do hope that what Bonds says is the truth, and that Brittany didn’t suffer beyond the gunshot.

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    Zibarro–I am sure your family is relieved that the “truth” is coming out. My condolences to you and all of Brittany’s friends and family. I do hope that all three that were involved will be penal-ized to the fullest extent. I do hope that what Bonds says is the truth, and that Brittany didn’t suffer beyond the gunshot.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    How the h*** did they think they would not come under suspicion?

    I found this on a different news channels site (WISHTV 8)

    “According to the police report, Tate was shot in the head by Jerry Williams. Investigators said Steven Brown initially told police Williams shot Tate on purpose, but later said it was an accident.

    Brown also told police Tate’s boyfriend Luther Bonds put Tate’s body in the trunk of her car, then drove to the White River and dumped her body. Jerry Williams set Tate’s car on fire near 28th and Sherman to hide evidence.”

    I wonder why they haven’t said whether or not they have the car?? When you find a burning car… wouldn’t your first instinct be that it was involved in a crime? Did they just tow it off and junk it without investigating or looking for the owner?

    I really don’t see how this could be an accident. She said something to him or made a face at him that pissed him off and he shot her (in the side of her head) and we are to believe he “didn’t mean to do it”? HELL NO! He meant to do it. His friends are just as guilty, too. To the 3 of them, Brittany was “disposable” and that’s just what they did. “Bro’s before Ho’s” (NOT calling Britt a ho… it’s just an expression!!)
    Scotchy… wanna call someone “scum”? Here are 3 pieces of scum for ya.

  • Zibarro

    How the h*** did they think they would not come under suspicion?

    I found this on a different news channels site (WISHTV 8)

    “According to the police report, Tate was shot in the head by Jerry Williams. Investigators said Steven Brown initially told police Williams shot Tate on purpose, but later said it was an accident.

    Brown also told police Tate’s boyfriend Luther Bonds put Tate’s body in the trunk of her car, then drove to the White River and dumped her body. Jerry Williams set Tate’s car on fire near 28th and Sherman to hide evidence.”

    I wonder why they haven’t said whether or not they have the car?? When you find a burning car… wouldn’t your first instinct be that it was involved in a crime? Did they just tow it off and junk it without investigating or looking for the owner?

    I really don’t see how this could be an accident. She said something to him or made a face at him that pissed him off and he shot her (in the side of her head) and we are to believe he “didn’t mean to do it”? HELL NO! He meant to do it. His friends are just as guilty, too. To the 3 of them, Brittany was “disposable” and that’s just what they did. “Bro’s before Ho’s” (NOT calling Britt a ho… it’s just an expression!!)
    Scotchy… wanna call someone “scum”? Here are 3 pieces of scum for ya.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Hmmm… the number eight becomes a smiley face? Go figure!

    JenJen… thank you. I’m waiting for my SIL and daughter to call me later. They hadn’t even heard the news before I called them (3 yr. old twins keep the TV busy… and NOT with the news! lol) so they were heading up to read the reports online. I’m sure the whole family is now openly discussing specifics. Like I said… for the past week we’ve all known most of this information but had to sit on it or risk hurting the investigation.

    I’m just worried cuz if they DO believe it was an accident, he’ll only face manslaughter charges. If they DON’T believe it… he’ll face murder charges. As I said before… I don’t think this was an accident. Impulsive? Yes. Pre-meditated? Doubtful. Intentional? Yes. If he’s sorry now… it’s only because he got caught. Otherwise.. he’d feel pretty damned invincible. And more “disposable” women who piss him off might have been found dead.

  • Zibarro

    Hmmm… the number eight becomes a smiley face? Go figure!

    JenJen… thank you. I’m waiting for my SIL and daughter to call me later. They hadn’t even heard the news before I called them (3 yr. old twins keep the TV busy… and NOT with the news! lol) so they were heading up to read the reports online. I’m sure the whole family is now openly discussing specifics. Like I said… for the past week we’ve all known most of this information but had to sit on it or risk hurting the investigation.

    I’m just worried cuz if they DO believe it was an accident, he’ll only face manslaughter charges. If they DON’T believe it… he’ll face murder charges. As I said before… I don’t think this was an accident. Impulsive? Yes. Pre-meditated? Doubtful. Intentional? Yes. If he’s sorry now… it’s only because he got caught. Otherwise.. he’d feel pretty damned invincible. And more “disposable” women who piss him off might have been found dead.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder why they haven’t said whether or not they have the car?? When you find a burning car… wouldn’t your first instinct be that it was involved in a crime? Did they just tow it off and junk it without investigating or looking for the owner?

    I think a lot of LE would think insurance scam or stolen car first. Car thieves have taken to burning cars to get rid of evidence, lately.

    It is an awful thought; but would the reason they torched Brittany’s car be that the shooting took place inside it? :-(

  • Abroad

    I wonder why they haven’t said whether or not they have the car?? When you find a burning car… wouldn’t your first instinct be that it was involved in a crime? Did they just tow it off and junk it without investigating or looking for the owner?

    I think a lot of LE would think insurance scam or stolen car first. Car thieves have taken to burning cars to get rid of evidence, lately.

    It is an awful thought; but would the reason they torched Brittany’s car be that the shooting took place inside it? :-(

  • Anonymous

    As I said before… I don’t think this was an accident. Impulsive? Yes. Pre-meditated? Doubtful. Intentional? Yes. If he’s sorry now… it’s only because he got caught. Otherwise.. he’d feel pretty damned invincible. And more “disposable” women who piss him off might have been found dead.

    Agree completely in that summing up. Any pretence that it might have been an accident went out the window when they didn’t call emergency services immediately.

    I hope you and all your relatives will be satisfied that justice has been done at the end of this. There can be no happy ending, but there may be some peace for Brittany.

  • Abroad

    As I said before… I don’t think this was an accident. Impulsive? Yes. Pre-meditated? Doubtful. Intentional? Yes. If he’s sorry now… it’s only because he got caught. Otherwise.. he’d feel pretty damned invincible. And more “disposable” women who piss him off might have been found dead.

    Agree completely in that summing up. Any pretence that it might have been an accident went out the window when they didn’t call emergency services immediately.

    I hope you and all your relatives will be satisfied that justice has been done at the end of this. There can be no happy ending, but there may be some peace for Brittany.

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    It is an awful thought; but would the reason they torched Brittany’s car be that the shooting took place inside it?

    Quite possibly–The lack of fingerprints, blood, forensic evidence…I wonder if they tossed the gun in the river too. This guy sounds too egotistical to wanna part with his “piece”.–He needs his “protection”.

    Hmmph. He won’t have it where he’s headed….

  • http://www.myspace.com/jent1995 jenjen0135

    It is an awful thought; but would the reason they torched Brittany’s car be that the shooting took place inside it?

    Quite possibly–The lack of fingerprints, blood, forensic evidence…I wonder if they tossed the gun in the river too. This guy sounds too egotistical to wanna part with his “piece”.–He needs his “protection”.

    Hmmph. He won’t have it where he’s headed….

  • Zibarro

    It is an awful thought; but would the reason they torched Brittany’s car be that the shooting took place inside it?

    That’s exactly what they are speculating. Her “boyfriend” was driving, she was front passenger, Williams (shooter) was back drivers side passenger and Brown was back passenger side. She and Williams had words and she possibly gave him a dirty look… and when she looked away… he put the gun to her head and pulled the trigger. They then stripped her (how else did she end up nearly naked) dumped her and took the car elsewhere to burn the evidence. After that, they stole another car, allegedly committed other crimes and when police tried to pull them over, resisted arrest. They learned the gun that William’s was carrying was the gun that killed Brittany.
    It seems Brown is the only one talking though. From what I’ve read, he is the one claiming first it was intentional, then it was an accident. What then, does Bonds think?

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    It is an awful thought; but would the reason they torched Brittany’s car be that the shooting took place inside it?

    That’s exactly what they are speculating. Her “boyfriend” was driving, she was front passenger, Williams (shooter) was back drivers side passenger and Brown was back passenger side. She and Williams had words and she possibly gave him a dirty look… and when she looked away… he put the gun to her head and pulled the trigger. They then stripped her (how else did she end up nearly naked) dumped her and took the car elsewhere to burn the evidence. After that, they stole another car, allegedly committed other crimes and when police tried to pull them over, resisted arrest. They learned the gun that William’s was carrying was the gun that killed Brittany.
    It seems Brown is the only one talking though. From what I’ve read, he is the one claiming first it was intentional, then it was an accident. What then, does Bonds think?

  • Anonymous

    It seems Brown is the only one talking though. From what I’ve read, he is the one claiming first it was intentional, then it was an accident. What then, does Bonds think?

    And Brown is not even the one who was supposedly her boy-friend?

    I wonder what Bonds sees when he looks at himself in the mirror? He clearly spends enough time doing so. *spits*

  • Abroad

    It seems Brown is the only one talking though. From what I’ve read, he is the one claiming first it was intentional, then it was an accident. What then, does Bonds think?

    And Brown is not even the one who was supposedly her boy-friend?

    I wonder what Bonds sees when he looks at himself in the mirror? He clearly spends enough time doing so. *spits*

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Agree completely in that summing up. Any pretence that it might have been an accident went out the window when they didn’t call emergency services immediately.

    I agree with you, too. If I “accidentally” shot someone or hurt them any other way accidentally — the FIRST thing I’d do is call 911. Hell, there are like 3 hospitals within a couple of miles of where they dumped her! Instead, they dumped her and tried to burn the car. Then, to add to my belief that there is no remorse — they go commit more crimes until they are finally caught.
    These kinds of criminals (Impulse) scare me more than anyone else. Anyone and everyone is a potential victim with an impulse killer. You could bump into them on accident and find yourself dead the next minute. They are too dangerous to be among the general population… so the thought that he could go down for manslaughter should scare everyone. If he gets out… he’ll only be worse…

  • Zibarro

    Agree completely in that summing up. Any pretence that it might have been an accident went out the window when they didn’t call emergency services immediately.

    I agree with you, too. If I “accidentally” shot someone or hurt them any other way accidentally — the FIRST thing I’d do is call 911. Hell, there are like 3 hospitals within a couple of miles of where they dumped her! Instead, they dumped her and tried to burn the car. Then, to add to my belief that there is no remorse — they go commit more crimes until they are finally caught.
    These kinds of criminals (Impulse) scare me more than anyone else. Anyone and everyone is a potential victim with an impulse killer. You could bump into them on accident and find yourself dead the next minute. They are too dangerous to be among the general population… so the thought that he could go down for manslaughter should scare everyone. If he gets out… he’ll only be worse…

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    I wonder what Bonds sees when he looks at himself in the mirror? He clearly spends enough time doing so. *spits*

    THAT’S the supposed boyfriend. I can’t remember too well, but before her myspace went private, she had a slideshow of her boyfriend on there… he was such a poser! Same scene everytime (Him, white t-shirt, on the phone in front of a webcam) just a different pose each time. Thinkin’ he’s the shit!
    What a “great guy” to allow his friend to kill his girlfriend and isntead of helping her… help HIM dump her and hide evidence. We all need boyfriends like that! NOT!
    From what I heard.. Williams wasn’t the only one found with a gun. Any wonder why the East Side of Indy is going to hell in a handbasket? Fuckers like this who think carrying a gun makes them “gangsta” and “big men”. Bullshit! Makes you a fucking coward in my book. A real man will fight with his wits or his fists. No weapon’s needed.
    Bring a weapon — you’re a pussy!

  • Zibarro

    I wonder what Bonds sees when he looks at himself in the mirror? He clearly spends enough time doing so. *spits*

    THAT’S the supposed boyfriend. I can’t remember too well, but before her myspace went private, she had a slideshow of her boyfriend on there… he was such a poser! Same scene everytime (Him, white t-shirt, on the phone in front of a webcam) just a different pose each time. Thinkin’ he’s the shit!
    What a “great guy” to allow his friend to kill his girlfriend and isntead of helping her… help HIM dump her and hide evidence. We all need boyfriends like that! NOT!
    From what I heard.. Williams wasn’t the only one found with a gun. Any wonder why the East Side of Indy is going to hell in a handbasket? Fuckers like this who think carrying a gun makes them “gangsta” and “big men”. Bullshit! Makes you a fucking coward in my book. A real man will fight with his wits or his fists. No weapon’s needed.
    Bring a weapon — you’re a pussy!

  • biteme

    I feel like I’m reading chain-gang girls just out of prison
    AAHH! With those beautiful eyes she could never be guilty of anything.
    I’m sure given the chance to reach 21 she would’ve made positive contributions ect ect ect
    And why was she hanging with these fun loving guys?
    she’s been convected of crimes & hangs out with criminals
    Sure she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation, 100% of the non-criminal population would never place themselves in. Sure we all jump in the car with three criminals; one which is playing with a loaded gun, as far as anyone knows, they could’ve all been going out for a fun drive by and it could’ve been her idea

  • biteme

    I feel like I’m reading chain-gang girls just out of prison
    AAHH! With those beautiful eyes she could never be guilty of anything.
    I’m sure given the chance to reach 21 she would’ve made positive contributions ect ect ect
    And why was she hanging with these fun loving guys?
    she’s been convected of crimes & hangs out with criminals
    Sure she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation, 100% of the non-criminal population would never place themselves in. Sure we all jump in the car with three criminals; one which is playing with a loaded gun, as far as anyone knows, they could’ve all been going out for a fun drive by and it could’ve been her idea

  • HotChildInTheCity

    Going down to the River like that was probably a healthy and healing thing to do. There will be alot more visits there by her closest friends and family off and on.
    Zibarro were you there ? Which one are you oh do tell…

    I dont’ think Brittany deserved violence or deserved to die but folks that river is not a nice place. Neither is anyplace around it. It would be awful to know a loved one was dumped in that river. I dont know if it would be healing or healthy.

  • HotChildInTheCity

    Going down to the River like that was probably a healthy and healing thing to do. There will be alot more visits there by her closest friends and family off and on.
    Zibarro were you there ? Which one are you oh do tell…

    I dont’ think Brittany deserved violence or deserved to die but folks that river is not a nice place. Neither is anyplace around it. It would be awful to know a loved one was dumped in that river. I dont know if it would be healing or healthy.

  • gm OF 10

    2.) I would have withheld my personal opinion of her being a scumbag if we hadn’t gotten to the back-and-forth argument about the point I was trying to make and that a few on here cannot grasp:

    Your personal opinion does not mean much to me, so why don’t you keep it to yourself..

  • gm OF 10

    2.) I would have withheld my personal opinion of her being a scumbag if we hadn’t gotten to the back-and-forth argument about the point I was trying to make and that a few on here cannot grasp:

    Your personal opinion does not mean much to me, so why don’t you keep it to yourself..

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    First, let me state this — I think you’re a fucking idiot.

    Next — Let me show you how illiterate you are to go along with that idiocy.

    I feel like I’m reading chain-gang girls just out of prison
    AAHH! With those beautiful eyes she could never be guilty of anything.

    We’ve already been through this on here. No one said she wasn’t guilty OF THE CRIMES SHE ALREADY PAID FOR. That’s why people go to prison … cuz they’re guilty. They get out when their time is up and (in this case) they’ve shown great improvement. She paid for her crimes with prison time — she didn’t deserve to DIE just because she once committed burglary.

    I’m sure given the chance to reach 21 she would’ve made positive contributions ect ect ect

    Hey, brainiac? She’s ALREADY 21! It was her getting her GED while incarcerated and showing remorse for her crimes and getting a job as soon as she was released that PROVE she was making positive contributions.

    And why was she hanging with these fun loving guys?
    she’s been convected of crimes & hangs out with criminals

    As far as I’ve seen, her boyfriend wasn’t a wanted man. Whether or not she knew HIS friends were wanted — who knows? DO YOU? NO! You know LESS about this case than I… so STFU.

    Sure she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation, 100% of the non-criminal population would never place themselves in. Sure we all jump in the car with three criminals; one which is playing with a loaded gun, as far as anyone knows, they could’ve all been going out for a fun drive by and it could’ve been her idea

    You’re stupidity is shining bright for the whole world to see. 100%, huh? What situation? Getting in a car with your boyfriend and his friends? REALLY? OMG! Happens every fucking day!

    Highly doubt he was playing with it when they first met up. HE got in HER car dufus. Once she saw the gun, apparently she went ballistic on him — and got shot in the head for doing so.

    Rot in hell. I didn’t think anyone could be more heartless or clueless than ScotchyScotch —– till YOU came along.

  • Zibarro

    First, let me state this — I think you’re a fucking idiot.

    Next — Let me show you how illiterate you are to go along with that idiocy.

    I feel like I’m reading chain-gang girls just out of prison
    AAHH! With those beautiful eyes she could never be guilty of anything.

    We’ve already been through this on here. No one said she wasn’t guilty OF THE CRIMES SHE ALREADY PAID FOR. That’s why people go to prison … cuz they’re guilty. They get out when their time is up and (in this case) they’ve shown great improvement. She paid for her crimes with prison time — she didn’t deserve to DIE just because she once committed burglary.

    I’m sure given the chance to reach 21 she would’ve made positive contributions ect ect ect

    Hey, brainiac? She’s ALREADY 21! It was her getting her GED while incarcerated and showing remorse for her crimes and getting a job as soon as she was released that PROVE she was making positive contributions.

    And why was she hanging with these fun loving guys?
    she’s been convected of crimes & hangs out with criminals

    As far as I’ve seen, her boyfriend wasn’t a wanted man. Whether or not she knew HIS friends were wanted — who knows? DO YOU? NO! You know LESS about this case than I… so STFU.

    Sure she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation, 100% of the non-criminal population would never place themselves in. Sure we all jump in the car with three criminals; one which is playing with a loaded gun, as far as anyone knows, they could’ve all been going out for a fun drive by and it could’ve been her idea

    You’re stupidity is shining bright for the whole world to see. 100%, huh? What situation? Getting in a car with your boyfriend and his friends? REALLY? OMG! Happens every fucking day!

    Highly doubt he was playing with it when they first met up. HE got in HER car dufus. Once she saw the gun, apparently she went ballistic on him — and got shot in the head for doing so.

    Rot in hell. I didn’t think anyone could be more heartless or clueless than ScotchyScotch —– till YOU came along.

  • Athena

    Sure she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation…

    Not the brightest crayon, are ya? In case you haven’t noticed, she’s dead. She’s not taking responsibility for anything ever again. Now, I’m not exactly known for my sensitivity, but enough with the inconsiderate comments. Your above statement is absolutely asinine. It’s pretty clear that she hadn’t turned her life around to the degree that people might have hoped, if at all. It’s also clear that her past had been somewhat sordid. But none of that matters, now. All her sins are permanently absolved. She’s a kid who died well before her time, and sitting around dissecting HER character when there are murderers involved in the equation makes absolutely no sense at all.

  • Athena

    Sure she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation…

    Not the brightest crayon, are ya? In case you haven’t noticed, she’s dead. She’s not taking responsibility for anything ever again. Now, I’m not exactly known for my sensitivity, but enough with the inconsiderate comments. Your above statement is absolutely asinine. It’s pretty clear that she hadn’t turned her life around to the degree that people might have hoped, if at all. It’s also clear that her past had been somewhat sordid. But none of that matters, now. All her sins are permanently absolved. She’s a kid who died well before her time, and sitting around dissecting HER character when there are murderers involved in the equation makes absolutely no sense at all.

  • http://bluextacy.blogspot.com/ BluExtacy

    wow.. it just really saddens me that this girl is dead and there are people here who feel the need to slander her. its incredibly distasteful! you are the one who is the lower life form you are the trash. i seriously hope that one day you will grow to realize there is a time and a place for everything.. and this just isn’t it. if you ever have the unfortunate luck of having to go through this exact scenario (which i hope this doesn’t happen) but if it were to, i hope people treat you the same way so you can understand how it makes this poor family. feel. you aren’t even worth these words but i feel compelled to wast my breath on them.

  • http://bluextacy.blogspot.com/ BluExtacy

    wow.. it just really saddens me that this girl is dead and there are people here who feel the need to slander her. its incredibly distasteful! you are the one who is the lower life form you are the trash. i seriously hope that one day you will grow to realize there is a time and a place for everything.. and this just isn’t it. if you ever have the unfortunate luck of having to go through this exact scenario (which i hope this doesn’t happen) but if it were to, i hope people treat you the same way so you can understand how it makes this poor family. feel. you aren’t even worth these words but i feel compelled to wast my breath on them.

  • http://bluextacy.blogspot.com/ BluExtacy

    and on a completely different note.. i am VERY sorry for your loss. My brother is running with the wrong crowd now .. and i fear that he will end up the same way, i understand that he isn’t a bad person, just like she wasn’t. sometimes life just gets away from us. i hope your family finds some peace. and don’t pay attention to these morons, they were probably hurt themselves.. so they feel the need to hurt, not that it makes them right, but i pity them too.

  • http://bluextacy.blogspot.com/ BluExtacy

    and on a completely different note.. i am VERY sorry for your loss. My brother is running with the wrong crowd now .. and i fear that he will end up the same way, i understand that he isn’t a bad person, just like she wasn’t. sometimes life just gets away from us. i hope your family finds some peace. and don’t pay attention to these morons, they were probably hurt themselves.. so they feel the need to hurt, not that it makes them right, but i pity them too.

  • biteme

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    Next — Let me show you how illiterate you are to go along with that idiocy.

    We’ve already been through this on here. No one said she wasn’t guilty OF THE CRIMES SHE ALREADY PAID FOR. That’s why people go to prison … cuz they’re guilty. They get out when their time is up and (in this case) they’ve shown great improvement. She paid for her crimes with prison time — she didn’t deserve to DIE just because she once committed burglary.

    Hey, brainiac? She’s ALREADY 21! It was her getting her GED while incarcerated and showing remorse for her crimes and getting a job as soon as she was released that PROVE she was making positive contributions.

    You’re stupidity is shining bright for the whole world to see. 100%, huh? What situation? Getting in a car with your boyfriend and his friends? REALLY? OMG! Happens every fucking day!

    Highly doubt he was playing with it when they first met up. HE got in HER car dufus. Once she saw the gun, apparently she went ballistic on him — and got shot in the head for doing so.

    Rot in hell. I didn’t think anyone could be more heartless or clueless than ScotchyScotch —– till YOU came along.

    WOW! so it’s chain gang girls stick together & do NO wrong. now I got it, you have some nerve calling anybody stupid. I thought she was stupid to get in that car till you came along and explained why it was cool.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    It’s pretty clear that she hadn’t turned her life around to the degree that people might have hoped, if at all.

    No one knows that. There are way too many scenarios that could be played out here… but we may NEVER know exactly what happened or why it happened. The only people left to tell are the ones responsible for her death and disposal. I’d rather not take what they say as the “Gospel Truth.” They’re facing some hard time and are likely to say anything to look better. Brittany can’t defend her actions of that day… jumping to the the worst conclusions is pretty damned unfair.

    For all we know — the argument about him having the gun was because Brittany did NOT want to get caught up in any shit. She could very well have been asking her boyfriend to make his friends get out of her car — which led to her death. Remember – it’s already been stated she argued with Williams when he pulled out the gun.

    Biteme’s assumption that she was with them to get into trouble gives absolutely NO insight into why they would shoot her. On the other hand, her NOT wanting to be involved in anything and wanting them out of the car DOES.

    We’ll probably never know what really happened in that car that day. But I will NOT sit idly by while people attack someone who can’t defend themselves and try to speak of things they know less about than myself. Relative or no relative. SHE is the victim. Quit demonizing her.

  • biteme

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    Next — Let me show you how illiterate you are to go along with that idiocy.

    We’ve already been through this on here. No one said she wasn’t guilty OF THE CRIMES SHE ALREADY PAID FOR. That’s why people go to prison … cuz they’re guilty. They get out when their time is up and (in this case) they’ve shown great improvement. She paid for her crimes with prison time — she didn’t deserve to DIE just because she once committed burglary.

    Hey, brainiac? She’s ALREADY 21! It was her getting her GED while incarcerated and showing remorse for her crimes and getting a job as soon as she was released that PROVE she was making positive contributions.

    You’re stupidity is shining bright for the whole world to see. 100%, huh? What situation? Getting in a car with your boyfriend and his friends? REALLY? OMG! Happens every fucking day!

    Highly doubt he was playing with it when they first met up. HE got in HER car dufus. Once she saw the gun, apparently she went ballistic on him — and got shot in the head for doing so.

    Rot in hell. I didn’t think anyone could be more heartless or clueless than ScotchyScotch —– till YOU came along.

    WOW! so it’s chain gang girls stick together & do NO wrong. now I got it, you have some nerve calling anybody stupid. I thought she was stupid to get in that car till you came along and explained why it was cool.

  • Zibarro

    It’s pretty clear that she hadn’t turned her life around to the degree that people might have hoped, if at all.

    No one knows that. There are way too many scenarios that could be played out here… but we may NEVER know exactly what happened or why it happened. The only people left to tell are the ones responsible for her death and disposal. I’d rather not take what they say as the “Gospel Truth.” They’re facing some hard time and are likely to say anything to look better. Brittany can’t defend her actions of that day… jumping to the the worst conclusions is pretty damned unfair.

    For all we know — the argument about him having the gun was because Brittany did NOT want to get caught up in any shit. She could very well have been asking her boyfriend to make his friends get out of her car — which led to her death. Remember – it’s already been stated she argued with Williams when he pulled out the gun.

    Biteme’s assumption that she was with them to get into trouble gives absolutely NO insight into why they would shoot her. On the other hand, her NOT wanting to be involved in anything and wanting them out of the car DOES.

    We’ll probably never know what really happened in that car that day. But I will NOT sit idly by while people attack someone who can’t defend themselves and try to speak of things they know less about than myself. Relative or no relative. SHE is the victim. Quit demonizing her.

  • Zibarro

    WOW! so it’s chain gang girls stick together & do NO wrong. now I got it, you have some nerve calling anybody stupid. I thought she was stupid to get in that car till you came along and explained why it was cool.

    Chain gang girls stick together? Seriously? Not only have I never been arrested – I don’t even have a speeding ticket retard! And I didn’t call just “anybody” stupid — I called YOU stupid.

    Once again — you ARE stupid. IT WAS HER CAR!!! Why is she stupid for being in her own car?? Did YOU get in YOUR car today?

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    WOW! so it’s chain gang girls stick together & do NO wrong. now I got it, you have some nerve calling anybody stupid. I thought she was stupid to get in that car till you came along and explained why it was cool.

    Chain gang girls stick together? Seriously? Not only have I never been arrested – I don’t even have a speeding ticket retard! And I didn’t call just “anybody” stupid — I called YOU stupid.

    Once again — you ARE stupid. IT WAS HER CAR!!! Why is she stupid for being in her own car?? Did YOU get in YOUR car today?

  • biteme

    Not the brightest crayon, are ya? In case you haven’t noticed, she’s dead. She’s not taking responsibility for anything ever again. Now, I’m not exactly known for my sensitivity, but enough with the inconsiderate comments. Your above statement is absolutely asinine. It’s pretty clear that she hadn’t turned her life around to the degree that people might have hoped, if at all. It’s also clear that her past had been somewhat sordid. But none of that matters, now. All her sins are permanently absolved. She’s a kid who died well before her time, and sitting around dissecting HER character when there are murderers involved in the equation makes absolutely no sense at all.

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

  • biteme

    Not the brightest crayon, are ya? In case you haven’t noticed, she’s dead. She’s not taking responsibility for anything ever again. Now, I’m not exactly known for my sensitivity, but enough with the inconsiderate comments. Your above statement is absolutely asinine. It’s pretty clear that she hadn’t turned her life around to the degree that people might have hoped, if at all. It’s also clear that her past had been somewhat sordid. But none of that matters, now. All her sins are permanently absolved. She’s a kid who died well before her time, and sitting around dissecting HER character when there are murderers involved in the equation makes absolutely no sense at all.

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

  • Athena

    Zibarro – I didn’t mean any disrespect. When I was her age, I was known to run with a similar crowd. No matter how bad a kid’s friends are, it doesn’t justify any harm done to them. However, I’m willing to bet her social circle was the source of her prior indiscretions (like with most youngsters); the fact that she hooked up with a thug after all that she’d been through doesn’t really jive with the “she was turning her life around” thing. You’re absolutely right, though, that her wanting the gun out of her car was much more likely to be the cause of her untimely passing.

    That said, the bulk of my post was to point out that dissecting her character is pointless, and that BiteMe’s suggestion that she take some responsibility for the situation she put herself in was mildly retarded. Whether she was turning her life around or not has absolutely no bearing on the amount of sympathy she should receive.

  • Athena

    Zibarro – I didn’t mean any disrespect. When I was her age, I was known to run with a similar crowd. No matter how bad a kid’s friends are, it doesn’t justify any harm done to them. However, I’m willing to bet her social circle was the source of her prior indiscretions (like with most youngsters); the fact that she hooked up with a thug after all that she’d been through doesn’t really jive with the “she was turning her life around” thing. You’re absolutely right, though, that her wanting the gun out of her car was much more likely to be the cause of her untimely passing.

    That said, the bulk of my post was to point out that dissecting her character is pointless, and that BiteMe’s suggestion that she take some responsibility for the situation she put herself in was mildly retarded. Whether she was turning her life around or not has absolutely no bearing on the amount of sympathy she should receive.

  • Athena

    Zibarro – I didn’t mean any disrespect. When I was her age, I was known to run with a similar crowd. No matter how bad a kid’s friends are, it doesn’t justify any harm done to them. However, I’m willing to bet her social circle was the source of her prior indiscretions (like with most youngsters); the fact that she hooked up with a thug after all that she’d been through doesn’t really jive with the “she was turning her life around” thing. You’re absolutely right, though, that her wanting the gun out of her car was much more likely to be the cause of her untimely passing.

    That said, the bulk of my post was to point out that dissecting her character is pointless, and that BiteMe’s suggestion that she take some responsibility for the situation she put herself in was mildly retarded. Whether she was turning her life around or not has absolutely no bearing on the amount of sympathy she should receive.

  • Athena

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

    Okay, pay REAL close attention, as reading comprehension is clearly not your strongsuit.

    1.) If you, too, want to criticize someone’s intelligence, I’m going to demand that your sentences are coherent and you at least take a stab at proper punctuation. “seems her jugment is as poor as yours” does not count.

    2.) She didn’t get into their car, they got into hers. Did you catch that this time?

    3.) She CAN’T be held responsible for any of her decisions anymore. She’s gone.

    4.) She may very well have amounted to an upstanding citizen after a little more growing up. Falling into the wrong crowd is one of those mistakes that can and should be forgiven when you are young. Who are we to say how she would have been 5 or 10 years from now? We are free to assume the best in her absense.

    Do you blame women for getting raped if they were wearing a short skirt, too? Her putting herself into a bad situation does not justify or even explain her murder.

  • Athena

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

    Okay, pay REAL close attention, as reading comprehension is clearly not your strongsuit.

    1.) If you, too, want to criticize someone’s intelligence, I’m going to demand that your sentences are coherent and you at least take a stab at proper punctuation. “seems her jugment is as poor as yours” does not count.

    2.) She didn’t get into their car, they got into hers. Did you catch that this time?

    3.) She CAN’T be held responsible for any of her decisions anymore. She’s gone.

    4.) She may very well have amounted to an upstanding citizen after a little more growing up. Falling into the wrong crowd is one of those mistakes that can and should be forgiven when you are young. Who are we to say how she would have been 5 or 10 years from now? We are free to assume the best in her absense.

    Do you blame women for getting raped if they were wearing a short skirt, too? Her putting herself into a bad situation does not justify or even explain her murder.

  • Athena

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

    Okay, pay REAL close attention, as reading comprehension is clearly not your strongsuit.

    1.) If you, too, want to criticize someone’s intelligence, I’m going to demand that your sentences are coherent and you at least take a stab at proper punctuation. “seems her jugment is as poor as yours” does not count.

    2.) She didn’t get into their car, they got into hers. Did you catch that this time?

    3.) She CAN’T be held responsible for any of her decisions anymore. She’s gone.

    4.) She may very well have amounted to an upstanding citizen after a little more growing up. Falling into the wrong crowd is one of those mistakes that can and should be forgiven when you are young. Who are we to say how she would have been 5 or 10 years from now? We are free to assume the best in her absense.

    Do you blame women for getting raped if they were wearing a short skirt, too? Her putting herself into a bad situation does not justify or even explain her murder.

  • biteme

    Do you blame women for getting raped if they were wearing a short skirt, too? Her putting herself into a bad situation does not justify or even explain her murder.

    No but if you take a murdering rapist into a back ally, hand him a gun & tell him “bet you can’t rape & kill me”. I think your action would be considered irresponsible ( than all the whatever on here could all, say what a wonderful person you where & how you didn’t deserve to die).
    I certainly don’t feel she deserved to die. But you associate with criminals and the odds of getting killed increase
    Her owning the car makes her decision to associate/pick up the criminals even worse.

  • biteme

    Do you blame women for getting raped if they were wearing a short skirt, too? Her putting herself into a bad situation does not justify or even explain her murder.

    No but if you take a murdering rapist into a back ally, hand him a gun & tell him “bet you can’t rape & kill me”. I think your action would be considered irresponsible ( than all the whatever on here could all, say what a wonderful person you where & how you didn’t deserve to die).
    I certainly don’t feel she deserved to die. But you associate with criminals and the odds of getting killed increase
    Her owning the car makes her decision to associate/pick up the criminals even worse.

  • biteme

    Do you blame women for getting raped if they were wearing a short skirt, too? Her putting herself into a bad situation does not justify or even explain her murder.

    No but if you take a murdering rapist into a back ally, hand him a gun & tell him “bet you can’t rape & kill me”. I think your action would be considered irresponsible ( than all the whatever on here could all, say what a wonderful person you where & how you didn’t deserve to die).
    I certainly don’t feel she deserved to die. But you associate with criminals and the odds of getting killed increase
    Her owning the car makes her decision to associate/pick up the criminals even worse.

  • Athena

    No but if you take a murdering rapist into a back ally, hand him a gun & tell him “bet you can’t rape & kill me”. I think your action would be considered irresponsible ( than all the whatever on here could all, say what a wonderful person you where & how you didn’t deserve to die).
    I certainly don’t feel she deserved to die. But you associate with criminals and the odds of getting killed increase

    That analogy doesn’t even make sense! All she did was pick up a boyfriend and a couple of his friends. Yes, she most likely knew that they weren’t great people, but that doesn’t mean she should or could have anticipated that they would KILL her.

    Her owning the car makes her decision to associate/pick up the criminals even worse.

    How?!? If I am driving MY car, I assume that I’ve got more control than if I get into some relative strangers car.

  • Athena

    No but if you take a murdering rapist into a back ally, hand him a gun & tell him “bet you can’t rape & kill me”. I think your action would be considered irresponsible ( than all the whatever on here could all, say what a wonderful person you where & how you didn’t deserve to die).
    I certainly don’t feel she deserved to die. But you associate with criminals and the odds of getting killed increase

    That analogy doesn’t even make sense! All she did was pick up a boyfriend and a couple of his friends. Yes, she most likely knew that they weren’t great people, but that doesn’t mean she should or could have anticipated that they would KILL her.

    Her owning the car makes her decision to associate/pick up the criminals even worse.

    How?!? If I am driving MY car, I assume that I’ve got more control than if I get into some relative strangers car.

  • Athena

    No but if you take a murdering rapist into a back ally, hand him a gun & tell him “bet you can’t rape & kill me”. I think your action would be considered irresponsible ( than all the whatever on here could all, say what a wonderful person you where & how you didn’t deserve to die).
    I certainly don’t feel she deserved to die. But you associate with criminals and the odds of getting killed increase

    That analogy doesn’t even make sense! All she did was pick up a boyfriend and a couple of his friends. Yes, she most likely knew that they weren’t great people, but that doesn’t mean she should or could have anticipated that they would KILL her.

    Her owning the car makes her decision to associate/pick up the criminals even worse.

    How?!? If I am driving MY car, I assume that I’ve got more control than if I get into some relative strangers car.

  • eternal-nj

    wtf?!? was bonds in the middle of a haircut when he was apprehended?

    well, anyhow, i’m just glad they were.

  • eternal-nj

    wtf?!? was bonds in the middle of a haircut when he was apprehended?

    well, anyhow, i’m just glad they were.

  • eternal-nj

    wtf?!? was bonds in the middle of a haircut when he was apprehended?

    well, anyhow, i’m just glad they were.

  • jenthgr8

    Biteme, you dumb bastard. If you weren’t such a disgusting waste of skin you’d almost be funny. Take a running start and then fuck right off, asstard.

    Athena? Your posts are so intelligent and well thought out. Your opinions are a joy to read.

    That being said, I’m absolutely stunned to read about how this tragedy came about. She told the guy to stop playing with a gun in her car and he fucking shot her? And her own boyfriend did nothing but try to cover his own ass. That’s just despicable.

  • jenthgr8

    Biteme, you dumb bastard. If you weren’t such a disgusting waste of skin you’d almost be funny. Take a running start and then fuck right off, asstard.

    Athena? Your posts are so intelligent and well thought out. Your opinions are a joy to read.

    That being said, I’m absolutely stunned to read about how this tragedy came about. She told the guy to stop playing with a gun in her car and he fucking shot her? And her own boyfriend did nothing but try to cover his own ass. That’s just despicable.

  • jenthgr8

    Biteme, you dumb bastard. If you weren’t such a disgusting waste of skin you’d almost be funny. Take a running start and then fuck right off, asstard.

    Athena? Your posts are so intelligent and well thought out. Your opinions are a joy to read.

    That being said, I’m absolutely stunned to read about how this tragedy came about. She told the guy to stop playing with a gun in her car and he fucking shot her? And her own boyfriend did nothing but try to cover his own ass. That’s just despicable.

  • WryBread

    These are three impressively ugly men. Steven Brown looks like his head got pinched with the forceps when he was born.

    Poor girl, she’ll never get a chance to see what she could have done with her life. I hate to think that these three shits were the last people she ever saw.

  • WryBread

    These are three impressively ugly men. Steven Brown looks like his head got pinched with the forceps when he was born.

    Poor girl, she’ll never get a chance to see what she could have done with her life. I hate to think that these three shits were the last people she ever saw.

  • WryBread

    These are three impressively ugly men. Steven Brown looks like his head got pinched with the forceps when he was born.

    Poor girl, she’ll never get a chance to see what she could have done with her life. I hate to think that these three shits were the last people she ever saw.

  • yogaluvr

    I haven’t posted in a very long time, but I have something to say.

    Biteme, you suck.

  • yogaluvr

    I haven’t posted in a very long time, but I have something to say.

    Biteme, you suck.

  • yogaluvr

    I haven’t posted in a very long time, but I have something to say.

    Biteme, you suck.

  • yogaluvr

    Okay, everyone. Ignore Rojobull1. Please. Do not feed this troll, not even once.

  • yogaluvr

    Okay, everyone. Ignore Rojobull1. Please. Do not feed this troll, not even once.

  • yogaluvr

    Okay, everyone. Ignore Rojobull1. Please. Do not feed this troll, not even once.

  • saltwatergirl

    Biteme…Regardless of the circumstances or consequences…she is still someones child, someones sister, and a human soul. Grow up.

    Rojo…Fucking move on …

  • saltwatergirl

    Biteme…Regardless of the circumstances or consequences…she is still someones child, someones sister, and a human soul. Grow up.

    Rojo…Fucking move on …

  • saltwatergirl

    Biteme…Regardless of the circumstances or consequences…she is still someones child, someones sister, and a human soul. Grow up.

    Rojo…Fucking move on …

  • porcelain

    I for one am glad these guys got caught.

    My sympathies go out to Brittany’s family.

    These guys are going to be someone’s “bitch” soon.. especially that mongoloid Brown he looks just like Rupaul.

    Bonds has a nice little “handle” on his head..should make it more convenient for the other prisoners to mouth rape him.

  • porcelain

    I for one am glad these guys got caught.

    My sympathies go out to Brittany’s family.

    These guys are going to be someone’s “bitch” soon.. especially that mongoloid Brown he looks just like Rupaul.

    Bonds has a nice little “handle” on his head..should make it more convenient for the other prisoners to mouth rape him.

  • porcelain

    I for one am glad these guys got caught.

    My sympathies go out to Brittany’s family.

    These guys are going to be someone’s “bitch” soon.. especially that mongoloid Brown he looks just like Rupaul.

    Bonds has a nice little “handle” on his head..should make it more convenient for the other prisoners to mouth rape him.

  • Gilbrit

    Another excellent reason to rid the world of niggers.

    “ROJOBULL1″ – Go back to that rock you crawled up from.

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    I shit bigger turds than the three of you combined will ever be
    Tell your stories walking….

    Zibarro, my condolencences on your and your family’s loss.

  • Gilbrit

    Another excellent reason to rid the world of niggers.

    “ROJOBULL1″ – Go back to that rock you crawled up from.

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    I shit bigger turds than the three of you combined will ever be
    Tell your stories walking….

    Zibarro, my condolencences on your and your family’s loss.

  • Gilbrit

    Another excellent reason to rid the world of niggers.

    “ROJOBULL1″ – Go back to that rock you crawled up from.

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    I shit bigger turds than the three of you combined will ever be
    Tell your stories walking….

    Zibarro, my condolencences on your and your family’s loss.

  • Max The Cat

    Caught’em! YES! Booh! Yah!. You Assholes whole want to know what makes this girl special compared to the hundreds of other girls who flow threw here every day? SHE WAS ONE OF US, SHE BELONGED TO ONE OF OURS! THAT’S THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE!!

  • Max The Cat

    Caught’em! YES! Booh! Yah!. You Assholes whole want to know what makes this girl special compared to the hundreds of other girls who flow threw here every day? SHE WAS ONE OF US, SHE BELONGED TO ONE OF OURS! THAT’S THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE!!

  • ScotchyScotch

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    Gilbrit, I am not a “troll” or a “wanna be troll”… I was making an observation regarding some of the comments being made, and I posted a comment about Brittany that I regret typing. I have said multiple times that I feel the same amount of sympathy towards her as I would toward any other murder victim and of course she didn’t deserve this. But, I still have the right to think of her how I choose to (although I regret typing and posting it on here – wasn’t thinking during the debate regarding my point). You and others obviously can and do disagree, and that is fine. I commend her that she got her GED and a job, but based on her past and based on the mugshots of her “friends”, she is definitely someone I am glad to have never met.

    As for Biteme, maybe he is being a little brash here (as his name might suggest), but I understand his point on personal responsibility. I just think it is too bad she didn’t make better choices in life. If she did, she may still be with us. Others have said she was naive, and that may have been so – but I view that as a shame. Hanging around with people like that can and often will put you at risk.

    I am happy the caught the perps and hope justice comes there way…

  • Max The Cat

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

    In case no one knows, BITEME here is the great defender of Randal Creek, the pussy who couldn’t stand breaking up with Debbie Rediess so he shot her to death in her driveway, then Emailed the cops with excuse after excuse on why he did it. I remember one of his brilliant statements was “She was a Ho and got what she deserved” This is the level of morals of BITEME , but he feels he can lecture us on Brittany’s life. Just thought you folks would like to know who our new self-appointed professor of proper behavior is.

  • ScotchyScotch

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    Gilbrit, I am not a “troll” or a “wanna be troll”… I was making an observation regarding some of the comments being made, and I posted a comment about Brittany that I regret typing. I have said multiple times that I feel the same amount of sympathy towards her as I would toward any other murder victim and of course she didn’t deserve this. But, I still have the right to think of her how I choose to (although I regret typing and posting it on here – wasn’t thinking during the debate regarding my point). You and others obviously can and do disagree, and that is fine. I commend her that she got her GED and a job, but based on her past and based on the mugshots of her “friends”, she is definitely someone I am glad to have never met.

    As for Biteme, maybe he is being a little brash here (as his name might suggest), but I understand his point on personal responsibility. I just think it is too bad she didn’t make better choices in life. If she did, she may still be with us. Others have said she was naive, and that may have been so – but I view that as a shame. Hanging around with people like that can and often will put you at risk.

    I am happy the caught the perps and hope justice comes there way…

  • Max The Cat

    look dullest of crayons, it makes as much sense as all you idiots screaming what beautiful eyes she had, what a wonderful person she would have become, how she’d paid the price and was on her way to Sainthood
    YES! she made the bad decision to hang with hoods and get in that car
    seems her jugment is as poor as yours
    why shouldn’t some one be held responsible for their decisions
    just because she got herself killed doesn’t absolve her of being irresponsible or even criminal, if she had gone to the library to further her education she’d still be alive

    In case no one knows, BITEME here is the great defender of Randal Creek, the pussy who couldn’t stand breaking up with Debbie Rediess so he shot her to death in her driveway, then Emailed the cops with excuse after excuse on why he did it. I remember one of his brilliant statements was “She was a Ho and got what she deserved” This is the level of morals of BITEME , but he feels he can lecture us on Brittany’s life. Just thought you folks would like to know who our new self-appointed professor of proper behavior is.

  • ScotchyScotch

    In case no one knows, BITEME here is the great defender of Randal Creek, the pussy who couldn’t stand breaking up with Debbie Rediess so he shot her to death in her driveway, then Emailed the cops with excuse after excuse on why he did it. I remember one of his brilliant statements was “She was a Ho and got what she deserved” This is the level of morals of BITEME , but he feels he can lecture us on Brittany’s life. Just thought you folks would like to know who our new self-appointed professor of proper behavior is.

    If that is true, I wouldn’t want to say I agree with him. However, I stand by my comment regarding personal responsibility and risk. It appears that there is little doubt that the people Brittany hung around with put her at extreme risk…

  • ScotchyScotch

    In case no one knows, BITEME here is the great defender of Randal Creek, the pussy who couldn’t stand breaking up with Debbie Rediess so he shot her to death in her driveway, then Emailed the cops with excuse after excuse on why he did it. I remember one of his brilliant statements was “She was a Ho and got what she deserved” This is the level of morals of BITEME , but he feels he can lecture us on Brittany’s life. Just thought you folks would like to know who our new self-appointed professor of proper behavior is.

    If that is true, I wouldn’t want to say I agree with him. However, I stand by my comment regarding personal responsibility and risk. It appears that there is little doubt that the people Brittany hung around with put her at extreme risk…

  • ceffy

    Heh. Scotchy and Biteme are sure on a roll here. They put their feet in their mouths and instead of gently removing them, they’ve been shoving those feet further and further down. Are they at the colon yet, boys?
    I highly doubt Brittany put herself in any bad situation since deciding to become a contributing citizen. It was her BOYFRIENDS fault because he brought those two jackasses around her. He failed to protect her and then failed to help her when she needed it the most. He is the scum, not Brittany. You both need to learn to stfu when you are wrong. You are wrong here. You don’t know this woman and you have no right to judge her. Whether she was right or wrong is no matter to you. She was just living her life and did not deserve to be killed.
    Do you deserve to die just because you leave your house and walk along the side of the road or drive somewhere?? Do you deserve to die because your girlfriend and a couple friends needed a ride somewhere and you were nice enough to say “Ok”? Do you deserve to die because you don’t believe in having guns in your car or near you in any way?
    Nah I didn’t think so…
    What gives you the damn right to judge her anyways? Would you want that for your mother/sister/auntie/cousin? You both are rude and stupid as hell, just stfu.

    RIP Brittany

  • ceffy

    Heh. Scotchy and Biteme are sure on a roll here. They put their feet in their mouths and instead of gently removing them, they’ve been shoving those feet further and further down. Are they at the colon yet, boys?
    I highly doubt Brittany put herself in any bad situation since deciding to become a contributing citizen. It was her BOYFRIENDS fault because he brought those two jackasses around her. He failed to protect her and then failed to help her when she needed it the most. He is the scum, not Brittany. You both need to learn to stfu when you are wrong. You are wrong here. You don’t know this woman and you have no right to judge her. Whether she was right or wrong is no matter to you. She was just living her life and did not deserve to be killed.
    Do you deserve to die just because you leave your house and walk along the side of the road or drive somewhere?? Do you deserve to die because your girlfriend and a couple friends needed a ride somewhere and you were nice enough to say “Ok”? Do you deserve to die because you don’t believe in having guns in your car or near you in any way?
    Nah I didn’t think so…
    What gives you the damn right to judge her anyways? Would you want that for your mother/sister/auntie/cousin? You both are rude and stupid as hell, just stfu.

    RIP Brittany

  • dmax

    SCOTCHYSCOTCH, should you have a moment of clarity, lock up that hair rake, baseball bat, stolen gun and anything else that might cause you personal injury. Then, go back and read what you have said. You’re probably making these posts on a stolen laptop. You sound like you have some serious personal scumbag issues…you dumbfuck. In my opinion, you ARE most likely a liar as well as a thief. Scotch’ll do that to ‘ya. Know what I mean, jellybean?

    As for BITEME…BLOWME!

    ZIBARRO, my deepest condolences on your loss.

  • dmax

    SCOTCHYSCOTCH, should you have a moment of clarity, lock up that hair rake, baseball bat, stolen gun and anything else that might cause you personal injury. Then, go back and read what you have said. You’re probably making these posts on a stolen laptop. You sound like you have some serious personal scumbag issues…you dumbfuck. In my opinion, you ARE most likely a liar as well as a thief. Scotch’ll do that to ‘ya. Know what I mean, jellybean?

    As for BITEME…BLOWME!

    ZIBARRO, my deepest condolences on your loss.

  • nadine

    First Scotchy Scotch? You my friend are so FULL of yourself it is funny, Are you even Scotchy Scotch? Who knows, anyway, they found the killer and that is what is important here and that the family can bury their loved one.. END OF STORY So terribly sorry for the loss, no one should have to go through what they are going through

  • nadine

    First Scotchy Scotch? You my friend are so FULL of yourself it is funny, Are you even Scotchy Scotch? Who knows, anyway, they found the killer and that is what is important here and that the family can bury their loved one.. END OF STORY So terribly sorry for the loss, no one should have to go through what they are going through

  • nadine

    First Scotchy Scotch? You my friend are so FULL of yourself it is funny, Are you even Scotchy Scotch? Who knows, anyway, they found the killer and that is what is important here and that the family can bury their loved one.. END OF STORY So terribly sorry for the loss, no one should have to go through what her family is going through no one should have to

  • nadine

    First Scotchy Scotch? You my friend are so FULL of yourself it is funny, Are you even Scotchy Scotch? Who knows, anyway, they found the killer and that is what is important here and that the family can bury their loved one.. END OF STORY So terribly sorry for the loss, no one should have to go through what her family is going through no one should have to

  • GOODWITCH

    If that is true, I wouldn’t want to say I agree with him. However, I stand by my comment regarding personal responsibility and risk. It appears that there is little doubt that the people Brittany hung around with put her at extreme risk…

    This is the nightmare of parents everywhere. I must say my 14 yr. old who is naive, never hung with a bad crowd, or been in prison, would know at 1 glance these are not people to have as friends. I tell him hanging out with bad people greatly increases his chances of getting in trouble, even if he doesn’t do anything wrong. When we make choices, we accept the risks and consequences that follow.

    Of course she didn’t deserve to be killed or hurt, and I should be able to walk downtown alone at night, without being robbed or raped. Just because I’m THERE, doesn’t mean I deserve it. But the way the world should be, and the way it IS, are 2 different things. So, I don’t do it.

    These 3 had no respect for human life, women, property, or the law, I find it hard to believe anyone would think they were ‘nice.’ This is the kind of story I show my kids to say, ” see what happens?” She is the victim, and not being very smart SHOULDN’T get you killed, but it does. I’m so sorry for her family and friends, and the life Brittany didn’t get to live.

  • GOODWITCH

    If that is true, I wouldn’t want to say I agree with him. However, I stand by my comment regarding personal responsibility and risk. It appears that there is little doubt that the people Brittany hung around with put her at extreme risk…

    This is the nightmare of parents everywhere. I must say my 14 yr. old who is naive, never hung with a bad crowd, or been in prison, would know at 1 glance these are not people to have as friends. I tell him hanging out with bad people greatly increases his chances of getting in trouble, even if he doesn’t do anything wrong. When we make choices, we accept the risks and consequences that follow.

    Of course she didn’t deserve to be killed or hurt, and I should be able to walk downtown alone at night, without being robbed or raped. Just because I’m THERE, doesn’t mean I deserve it. But the way the world should be, and the way it IS, are 2 different things. So, I don’t do it.

    These 3 had no respect for human life, women, property, or the law, I find it hard to believe anyone would think they were ‘nice.’ This is the kind of story I show my kids to say, ” see what happens?” She is the victim, and not being very smart SHOULDN’T get you killed, but it does. I’m so sorry for her family and friends, and the life Brittany didn’t get to live.

  • solange822001

    Holy shit. Im glad that this isnt going to be one of those unsolved murders. I cannot believe these scum. There has to be more to it that just this. How could you shoot someone in the head over something so stupid? Im sorry Zibarro, I hope that having these scumbags pay for what they did brings you and your family some peace.

  • solange822001

    Holy shit. Im glad that this isnt going to be one of those unsolved murders. I cannot believe these scum. There has to be more to it that just this. How could you shoot someone in the head over something so stupid? Im sorry Zibarro, I hope that having these scumbags pay for what they did brings you and your family some peace.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Athena:

    I’m sorry if it seemed I was attacking you. I think I got caught up in replying to you at the same time I was attempting to make things more clear for “biteme”. You’re correct about Brittany not always making the best choices for friends… but I do believe that she was moving in a different direction in that respect and, had she not been killed, her infatuation with that loser would have been very short lived. Perhaps he sensed this as well.

    To all who’ve continued to defend Brittany as the victim she IS… I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I also thank you for supporting me as well as her friends and family.

    The truth is — we’ll never know how Brittany’s life could have turned out. We’ll never know what her hopes, dreams or aspirations were because 1 person decided she was dispensable… and 2 others (one of whom she should have been able to trust) didn’t have the balls to stop him or the humanity to get her help. It wasn’t bad enough they killed her — they had to abuse her body and memory after her death.

    I’m really quite confused about why the other 2 aren’t facing worse charges. I mean, if I drive someone to a bank and they go in and rob that bank and shoot and kill someone — wouldn’t they charge me with the same crime? Or at the very least – accessory after the fact? Perhaps they didn’t know he would kill her — but they were there when he did and they helped cover up the crime… why are they facing nothing more than D felonies?

    And “biteme”? Even though your ‘back alley’ analogy is ludicrous — that person WOULD still be guilty of murder. Just because someone hands you a gun and says “Kill Me” — doesn’t mean it’s OK to do so. That’s not what happened here though… which is one of the reasons what you said makes NO sense.
    I stand by my earlier assessment that you’re totally illiterate, stupid and judging by your opinions – headed for a lonely life or time in jail. I hope your parents didn’t breed any more like you.

  • Zibarro

    Athena:

    I’m sorry if it seemed I was attacking you. I think I got caught up in replying to you at the same time I was attempting to make things more clear for “biteme”. You’re correct about Brittany not always making the best choices for friends… but I do believe that she was moving in a different direction in that respect and, had she not been killed, her infatuation with that loser would have been very short lived. Perhaps he sensed this as well.

    To all who’ve continued to defend Brittany as the victim she IS… I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I also thank you for supporting me as well as her friends and family.

    The truth is — we’ll never know how Brittany’s life could have turned out. We’ll never know what her hopes, dreams or aspirations were because 1 person decided she was dispensable… and 2 others (one of whom she should have been able to trust) didn’t have the balls to stop him or the humanity to get her help. It wasn’t bad enough they killed her — they had to abuse her body and memory after her death.

    I’m really quite confused about why the other 2 aren’t facing worse charges. I mean, if I drive someone to a bank and they go in and rob that bank and shoot and kill someone — wouldn’t they charge me with the same crime? Or at the very least – accessory after the fact? Perhaps they didn’t know he would kill her — but they were there when he did and they helped cover up the crime… why are they facing nothing more than D felonies?

    And “biteme”? Even though your ‘back alley’ analogy is ludicrous — that person WOULD still be guilty of murder. Just because someone hands you a gun and says “Kill Me” — doesn’t mean it’s OK to do so. That’s not what happened here though… which is one of the reasons what you said makes NO sense.
    I stand by my earlier assessment that you’re totally illiterate, stupid and judging by your opinions – headed for a lonely life or time in jail. I hope your parents didn’t breed any more like you.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    First, I would like to offer my deepest sympathies, and condolences, to Zibarro & family.
    Having said that, I would like to further state that “Ron,” and “Bite Me” should not be allowed to procreate. If re-victimizing the victim is the best thing you could teach a child; then you should not be allowed near any.
    We have all made some bad decisions, and mistakes, when growing up. But, none of us deserve any measure of what that young girl was given. I believe she was headed along the right track when she was murdered. She obviously saw that being a criminal was not what she wanted to be, and used her time while incarcerated to her benefit. As such, the type of changes she seems to have been making take time. They cannot happen all at once. Sometimes, complete disassociation from your old friends & lifestyle is nearly impossible. You have to wean yourself away from them. A genie doesn’t just appear and immediately grant your wish to change your life. This poor girl didn’t get a chance to finish what she started… more’s the pity.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    First, I would like to offer my deepest sympathies, and condolences, to Zibarro & family.
    Having said that, I would like to further state that “Ron,” and “Bite Me” should not be allowed to procreate. If re-victimizing the victim is the best thing you could teach a child; then you should not be allowed near any.
    We have all made some bad decisions, and mistakes, when growing up. But, none of us deserve any measure of what that young girl was given. I believe she was headed along the right track when she was murdered. She obviously saw that being a criminal was not what she wanted to be, and used her time while incarcerated to her benefit. As such, the type of changes she seems to have been making take time. They cannot happen all at once. Sometimes, complete disassociation from your old friends & lifestyle is nearly impossible. You have to wean yourself away from them. A genie doesn’t just appear and immediately grant your wish to change your life. This poor girl didn’t get a chance to finish what she started… more’s the pity.

  • Anonymous

    she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation, 100% of the non-criminal population would never place themselves in

    There are a couple of people on here who should just hang it up. When you open your mouths to speak, I imagine it sounds and smells just like farting.

    BITEME, Do you realize that every single person you are “conversing” with on here except for “Ron”/Scotchyscotch thinks you’re a piece of crap? If literally no one likes you except for “Ron”/Scotchyscotch, maybe it’s time to leave.

    I think you’re a sick self-righteous moron. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re also a closet pervert of the worst type. That’s I bet you salivate over these stories, and sit there with your pants around your ankles thinking things like “that little bitch shouldn’t have been wandering around town at that time of night wearing a miniskirt if she didn’t wanna get raped…” Same goes for you, “Ron.”

    You and the couple other tards (“RON”) who think like you, why don’t you just go away?

    based on her past and based on the mugshots of her “friends”, she is definitely someone I am glad to have never met.

    “Ron,” seriously, why don’t you go drink by yourself? No one here except BITEME is interested in keeping you company. You’re just a RACIST in addition to all your other offensive qualities. Those pictures of those men don’t signal anything other than the fact that they are BLACK . Go stroke off to your Sarah Palin posters and leave decent folks alone.

  • sugarglider

    she didn’t deserve to die, but hey maybe she could take some responsibility for placing herself in a situation, 100% of the non-criminal population would never place themselves in

    There are a couple of people on here who should just hang it up. When you open your mouths to speak, I imagine it sounds and smells just like farting.

    BITEME, Do you realize that every single person you are “conversing” with on here except for “Ron”/Scotchyscotch thinks you’re a piece of crap? If literally no one likes you except for “Ron”/Scotchyscotch, maybe it’s time to leave.

    I think you’re a sick self-righteous moron. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re also a closet pervert of the worst type. That’s I bet you salivate over these stories, and sit there with your pants around your ankles thinking things like “that little bitch shouldn’t have been wandering around town at that time of night wearing a miniskirt if she didn’t wanna get raped…” Same goes for you, “Ron.”

    You and the couple other tards (“RON”) who think like you, why don’t you just go away?

    based on her past and based on the mugshots of her “friends”, she is definitely someone I am glad to have never met.

    “Ron,” seriously, why don’t you go drink by yourself? No one here except BITEME is interested in keeping you company. You’re just a RACIST in addition to all your other offensive qualities. Those pictures of those men don’t signal anything other than the fact that they are BLACK . Go stroke off to your Sarah Palin posters and leave decent folks alone.

  • WryBread

    “Ron,” seriously, why don’t you go drink by yourself? No one here except BITEME is interested in keeping you company. You’re just a RACIST in addition to all your other offensive qualities. Those pictures of those men don’t signal anything other than the fact that they are BLACK . Go stroke off to your Sarah Palin posters and leave decent folks alone.

    I disagree. When I saw these photos I did NOT think to myself, “Wow, black dudes, therefore bad scary people.” I thought, “Wow. Mean-looking dudes. Mean expressions. Scary eyes. That one looks as if his head was pinched by forceps when he was born.” Do you really think that a photograph doesn’t convey anything except race?

  • WryBread

    “Ron,” seriously, why don’t you go drink by yourself? No one here except BITEME is interested in keeping you company. You’re just a RACIST in addition to all your other offensive qualities. Those pictures of those men don’t signal anything other than the fact that they are BLACK . Go stroke off to your Sarah Palin posters and leave decent folks alone.

    I disagree. When I saw these photos I did NOT think to myself, “Wow, black dudes, therefore bad scary people.” I thought, “Wow. Mean-looking dudes. Mean expressions. Scary eyes. That one looks as if his head was pinched by forceps when he was born.” Do you really think that a photograph doesn’t convey anything except race?

  • biteme

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    I shit bigger turds than the three of you combined will ever be
    Tell your stories walking….

    I think those big turds were what little brain you had
    You’re a bunch of Casey Anthonys reality has no place in your world

  • biteme

    “biteme” and “ScotchyScotch” are nothing but wanna be trolls. They lack the intelligence needed to even be considered a pest.

    I shit bigger turds than the three of you combined will ever be
    Tell your stories walking….

    I think those big turds were what little brain you had
    You’re a bunch of Casey Anthonys reality has no place in your world

  • LiveLifeSimply

    How do they not have the car? They claim they took the car to 28th and Sherman and set it on fire. Is there no record of an emergency call to put it out? Did no one see the car burning? Wouldn’t you call 911 if you saw a car on fire? Did it just disappear? Did someone put it out and think, “Huh, I think I’ll just drive away in this car that was just on fire”? HOW CAN THEY NOT HAVE THE CAR?!
    The family made the comment that they saw tire tracks all the way down to the water, could it be in the river?

  • LiveLifeSimply

    How do they not have the car? They claim they took the car to 28th and Sherman and set it on fire. Is there no record of an emergency call to put it out? Did no one see the car burning? Wouldn’t you call 911 if you saw a car on fire? Did it just disappear? Did someone put it out and think, “Huh, I think I’ll just drive away in this car that was just on fire”? HOW CAN THEY NOT HAVE THE CAR?!
    The family made the comment that they saw tire tracks all the way down to the water, could it be in the river?

  • biteme

    Heh. Scotchy and Biteme are sure on a roll here. They put their feet in their mouths and instead of gently removing them, they’ve been shoving those feet further and further down. Are they at the colon yet, boys?
    I highly doubt Brittany put herself in any bad situation since deciding to become a contributing citizen. It was her BOYFRIENDS fault because he brought those two jackasses around her. He failed to protect her and then failed to help her when she needed it the most. He is the scum, not Brittany. You both need to learn to stfu when you are wrong. You are wrong here. You don’t know this woman and you have no right to judge her. Whether she was right or wrong is no matter to you. She was just living her life and did not deserve to be killed.
    Do you deserve to die just because you leave your house and walk along the side of the road or drive somewhere?? Do you deserve to die because your girlfriend and a couple friends needed a ride somewhere and you were nice enough to say “Ok”? Do you deserve to die because you don’t believe in having guns in your car or near you in any way?
    Nah I didn’t think so…
    What gives you the damn right to judge her anyways? Would you want that for your mother/sister/auntie/cousin? You both are rude and stupid as hell, just stfu.

    hey Casey maybe the Nanny picked her boyfriend and placed those guys in the car. She wasn’t walking around minding her business, she was driving around with CRIMINALS! It was a bad decision she made and it cost her life. Twist the facts any way you want, hanging around the wrong crowd increases the chances of getting harmed. You can’t blame everyone else for your bad decisions, grow up. You play with fire you get burnt, it’s not the fires fault

  • biteme

    Heh. Scotchy and Biteme are sure on a roll here. They put their feet in their mouths and instead of gently removing them, they’ve been shoving those feet further and further down. Are they at the colon yet, boys?
    I highly doubt Brittany put herself in any bad situation since deciding to become a contributing citizen. It was her BOYFRIENDS fault because he brought those two jackasses around her. He failed to protect her and then failed to help her when she needed it the most. He is the scum, not Brittany. You both need to learn to stfu when you are wrong. You are wrong here. You don’t know this woman and you have no right to judge her. Whether she was right or wrong is no matter to you. She was just living her life and did not deserve to be killed.
    Do you deserve to die just because you leave your house and walk along the side of the road or drive somewhere?? Do you deserve to die because your girlfriend and a couple friends needed a ride somewhere and you were nice enough to say “Ok”? Do you deserve to die because you don’t believe in having guns in your car or near you in any way?
    Nah I didn’t think so…
    What gives you the damn right to judge her anyways? Would you want that for your mother/sister/auntie/cousin? You both are rude and stupid as hell, just stfu.

    hey Casey maybe the Nanny picked her boyfriend and placed those guys in the car. She wasn’t walking around minding her business, she was driving around with CRIMINALS! It was a bad decision she made and it cost her life. Twist the facts any way you want, hanging around the wrong crowd increases the chances of getting harmed. You can’t blame everyone else for your bad decisions, grow up. You play with fire you get burnt, it’s not the fires fault

  • biteme

    And “biteme”? Even though your ‘back alley’ analogy is ludicrous — that person WOULD still be guilty of murder. Just because someone hands you a gun and says “Kill Me” — doesn’t mean it’s OK to do so. That’s not what happened here though… which is one of the reasons what you said makes NO sense.
    I stand by my earlier assessment that you’re totally illiterate, stupid and judging by your opinions – headed for a lonely life or time in jail. I hope your parents didn’t breed any more like you.

    look I’m not defending those animals, they should be tasered in the balls for the rest of their life, all I’m saying and it’s really gotten out of hand is she made a bad dicision, it shouldn’t of cost her life, but it did.
    Sorry for your loss, I’m sure given the chance she would’ve made great positive strides. I will say a prayer for her and your family

  • biteme

    And “biteme”? Even though your ‘back alley’ analogy is ludicrous — that person WOULD still be guilty of murder. Just because someone hands you a gun and says “Kill Me” — doesn’t mean it’s OK to do so. That’s not what happened here though… which is one of the reasons what you said makes NO sense.
    I stand by my earlier assessment that you’re totally illiterate, stupid and judging by your opinions – headed for a lonely life or time in jail. I hope your parents didn’t breed any more like you.

    look I’m not defending those animals, they should be tasered in the balls for the rest of their life, all I’m saying and it’s really gotten out of hand is she made a bad dicision, it shouldn’t of cost her life, but it did.
    Sorry for your loss, I’m sure given the chance she would’ve made great positive strides. I will say a prayer for her and your family

  • Anonymous

    I disagree. When I saw these photos I did NOT think to myself, “Wow, black dudes, therefore bad scary people.” I thought, “Wow. Mean-looking dudes. Mean expressions. Scary eyes. That one looks as if his head was pinched by forceps when he was born.” Do you really think that a photograph doesn’t convey anything except race?

    Wry, first of all, I was responding to a specific posting. Now, as to your question, yes, I think they look mean, but I’m pretty sure that’s because I know that they ARE mean, and that these are mugshots which were taken when they got caught for the terrible thing that they did. By the same token, I don’t remember who it was that said Brittany looked like a caring, sweet person, but I’m pretty sure that their “reading” of what kind of person she appeared to be would be entirely different if the picture were appended to a story about how she had just tortured and dismembered her grandparents.

    Context is important; no text (or anything else) exists bereft of context.

    And as for the larger context beyond the context of this particular murder: America does happen to have a problematic history with regards to race. Black people are often assumed to be criminals because of their “appearance”–often, all that really means is that they are black (and if they happen to be wearing a do-rag or something, it’s more likely in some scenarios, but a well-dressed black man in a nice car may well meet the same assumption). This is a proven fact in study after study.

    That fact aside, I’d just ask you to keep in mind that I was replying to a particular posting, like I said, so take it with a big grain of salt ;)

  • sugarglider

    I disagree. When I saw these photos I did NOT think to myself, “Wow, black dudes, therefore bad scary people.” I thought, “Wow. Mean-looking dudes. Mean expressions. Scary eyes. That one looks as if his head was pinched by forceps when he was born.” Do you really think that a photograph doesn’t convey anything except race?

    Wry, first of all, I was responding to a specific posting. Now, as to your question, yes, I think they look mean, but I’m pretty sure that’s because I know that they ARE mean, and that these are mugshots which were taken when they got caught for the terrible thing that they did. By the same token, I don’t remember who it was that said Brittany looked like a caring, sweet person, but I’m pretty sure that their “reading” of what kind of person she appeared to be would be entirely different if the picture were appended to a story about how she had just tortured and dismembered her grandparents.

    Context is important; no text (or anything else) exists bereft of context.

    And as for the larger context beyond the context of this particular murder: America does happen to have a problematic history with regards to race. Black people are often assumed to be criminals because of their “appearance”–often, all that really means is that they are black (and if they happen to be wearing a do-rag or something, it’s more likely in some scenarios, but a well-dressed black man in a nice car may well meet the same assumption). This is a proven fact in study after study.

    That fact aside, I’d just ask you to keep in mind that I was replying to a particular posting, like I said, so take it with a big grain of salt ;)

  • WryBread

    SugarGlider — Thanks for the post. I must have missed the one to which you were referring. I agree that context does play a part in interpreting photos, but dress and grooming are a statement, along with expressions and body language. If I saw these three guys in a story about how three men run a nursery/daycare, I would be very surprised that their actions were in such contrast to their appearance. Just as I was surprised that the jolly lady in that other thread was capable of pouring boiling water on a man’s genitals! Thanks again, and I am sorry that I misread your post.

  • WryBread

    SugarGlider — Thanks for the post. I must have missed the one to which you were referring. I agree that context does play a part in interpreting photos, but dress and grooming are a statement, along with expressions and body language. If I saw these three guys in a story about how three men run a nursery/daycare, I would be very surprised that their actions were in such contrast to their appearance. Just as I was surprised that the jolly lady in that other thread was capable of pouring boiling water on a man’s genitals! Thanks again, and I am sorry that I misread your post.

  • momma too all

    Well I had to get on here after surfing the net to see what crap had been wrote about my beloved brittany..She was like a daughter to me, always has been and always will be ..We are the main ones she called when she was locked up and were the ones she called when her daddy died and we sat on the phone forever at any time she needed to talk or cry or tell us how good she was doing and always gave her support. And when she wasn’t with her awesome daddy (who did his best for her)she was with my family.We loved her so so much and miss her very much . I can not go into detail due to all this is under investigation still but I have to talk about my “Britt” as I called her. She did have issues in the PAST with drugs&stupid boyfriends and one hell of a upbringing at times .Her father did what he felt right for her, he had health issues and was not able to be there “so to speak “for her like he wanted to be but he loved her. She did not have her mother here in Indiana so alot of times I stood in and tried very hard to guide her beautiful soul in the right direction. She was in the right path of turning things around and had taken some of our talks to heart and started realizing she deserved better then Bonds. The decision juss wasn’t made soon enough obviously. So for anyone to say she deserved death or was this n that, needs to not even write into this site..She wore her heart on her sleeve , she loved children and loved life. She did get her old job back that she had before she went to prison, they liked her that much and trusted her to come back..That say’s alot right there ! Britt loved butterflies, make-up and her best friend S. they were a team and worked together. She also loved Mountain Dew and my home cooking also. Her nickname here was Auntie B given to her by my Grandkids that loved her very much and to this day if they catch a glimpse on tv of her picture,OR look at her pictures we have up, they say O mimi Auntie B and point . You talk about hard to keep composure ? That’s when I walk away and cry more it”s been so damn hard and OMG I wish like hell she was in my arms again , or dancing around silly and making all of us smile..I’m thankful the babies are young so they do not understand any of this yet but they do know she’s not here anymore , we all are forced to know that ..Iv’e wrote a book on here and I can’t see too well at this point from crying so until I write again Momma loves u britt and am sending xoxoxoo to you up above ..They will answer to the lord I know that much .

  • momma too all

    Well I had to get on here after surfing the net to see what crap had been wrote about my beloved brittany..She was like a daughter to me, always has been and always will be ..We are the main ones she called when she was locked up and were the ones she called when her daddy died and we sat on the phone forever at any time she needed to talk or cry or tell us how good she was doing and always gave her support. And when she wasn’t with her awesome daddy (who did his best for her)she was with my family.We loved her so so much and miss her very much . I can not go into detail due to all this is under investigation still but I have to talk about my “Britt” as I called her. She did have issues in the PAST with drugs&stupid boyfriends and one hell of a upbringing at times .Her father did what he felt right for her, he had health issues and was not able to be there “so to speak “for her like he wanted to be but he loved her. She did not have her mother here in Indiana so alot of times I stood in and tried very hard to guide her beautiful soul in the right direction. She was in the right path of turning things around and had taken some of our talks to heart and started realizing she deserved better then Bonds. The decision juss wasn’t made soon enough obviously. So for anyone to say she deserved death or was this n that, needs to not even write into this site..She wore her heart on her sleeve , she loved children and loved life. She did get her old job back that she had before she went to prison, they liked her that much and trusted her to come back..That say’s alot right there ! Britt loved butterflies, make-up and her best friend S. they were a team and worked together. She also loved Mountain Dew and my home cooking also. Her nickname here was Auntie B given to her by my Grandkids that loved her very much and to this day if they catch a glimpse on tv of her picture,OR look at her pictures we have up, they say O mimi Auntie B and point . You talk about hard to keep composure ? That’s when I walk away and cry more it”s been so damn hard and OMG I wish like hell she was in my arms again , or dancing around silly and making all of us smile..I’m thankful the babies are young so they do not understand any of this yet but they do know she’s not here anymore , we all are forced to know that ..Iv’e wrote a book on here and I can’t see too well at this point from crying so until I write again Momma loves u britt and am sending xoxoxoo to you up above ..They will answer to the lord I know that much .

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Momma Too All:

    Thank you for coming on here to talk about Britt and share more about her.
    99% of the posts here have been positive. Most on the DD understand that Britt was the victim and has left behind a lot of people in pain, anguish and just plain anger at those who took her away.
    Of all the places I’ve been to read comments after this happened – this is the ONLY one that gives a damn about Britt and her family.
    She WAS a sweet girl and I KNOW she would have made her daddy proud, as well as everyone else.
    You can bet L met her on the other side.
    My deepest sympathies to you and the rest of the family. I pray you will begin to heal.
    I’m sure Britt would want you to smile when you think about her. Remember the happiness she brought to your life instead of the sadness these monsters have forced you to feel.

    R.I.P. Britt

  • Zibarro

    Momma Too All:

    Thank you for coming on here to talk about Britt and share more about her.
    99% of the posts here have been positive. Most on the DD understand that Britt was the victim and has left behind a lot of people in pain, anguish and just plain anger at those who took her away.
    Of all the places I’ve been to read comments after this happened – this is the ONLY one that gives a damn about Britt and her family.
    She WAS a sweet girl and I KNOW she would have made her daddy proud, as well as everyone else.
    You can bet L met her on the other side.
    My deepest sympathies to you and the rest of the family. I pray you will begin to heal.
    I’m sure Britt would want you to smile when you think about her. Remember the happiness she brought to your life instead of the sadness these monsters have forced you to feel.

    R.I.P. Britt

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Just wanted to update everyone on what I know at this point.

    After at least one postponement, the new court date is set for March 23. 2009 for the shooter, Jerry Williams and also for Luther Bonds. Williams is being charged with 2 counts of murder, to what degree I don’t yet know and 2 counts of obstruction of justice.

    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    MURDER/F
    MURDER/F
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    F.A.A. NO LICENSE/MA

    **Mr. Williams is also being held on prior charges not related to this case for which a trial date has been set for Feb. 4, 2009**

    According to what my son-in-law has been able to find out, a deal may be in the works for the other 2.

    As it stands, Bonds is being charged with:

    RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT/MA
    DRIVING WHILE LICENSE SUSPENDED PRIORS/MA
    RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT/MA

    THEFT;RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY/FC/FD
    AUTO THEFT;RECEIVING STOLEN PARTS/FC/FD
    CRIMINAL MISCHIEF/MA/MB
    RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT/MA
    AUTO THEFT;RECEIVING STOLEN PARTS/FC/FD
    F.A.A. NO LICENSE/MA
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    ASSISTING A CRIMINAL/MA
    ASSISTING A CRIMINAL/FD
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD

    For some odd reason, Steven Brown’s court date is 2 days after the others and his charges are much less already:

    ASSISTING A CRIMINAL/MA
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    ABUSE OF CORPSE/FD

    The car has never been located.

    As I find out more, I’ll update.

    The family is coping to the best of their ability. It’s rough and having just lost their Patriarch not long before Brit was killed, only added to the overwhelming difficulty. Now they are just hoping for justice for Brittany.

  • Zibarro

    Just wanted to update everyone on what I know at this point.

    After at least one postponement, the new court date is set for March 23. 2009 for the shooter, Jerry Williams and also for Luther Bonds. Williams is being charged with 2 counts of murder, to what degree I don’t yet know and 2 counts of obstruction of justice.

    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    MURDER/F
    MURDER/F
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    F.A.A. NO LICENSE/MA

    **Mr. Williams is also being held on prior charges not related to this case for which a trial date has been set for Feb. 4, 2009**

    According to what my son-in-law has been able to find out, a deal may be in the works for the other 2.

    As it stands, Bonds is being charged with:

    RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT/MA
    DRIVING WHILE LICENSE SUSPENDED PRIORS/MA
    RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT/MA

    THEFT;RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY/FC/FD
    AUTO THEFT;RECEIVING STOLEN PARTS/FC/FD
    CRIMINAL MISCHIEF/MA/MB
    RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT/MA
    AUTO THEFT;RECEIVING STOLEN PARTS/FC/FD
    F.A.A. NO LICENSE/MA
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    ASSISTING A CRIMINAL/MA
    ASSISTING A CRIMINAL/FD
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD

    For some odd reason, Steven Brown’s court date is 2 days after the others and his charges are much less already:

    ASSISTING A CRIMINAL/MA
    OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE/FD
    ABUSE OF CORPSE/FD

    The car has never been located.

    As I find out more, I’ll update.

    The family is coping to the best of their ability. It’s rough and having just lost their Patriarch not long before Brit was killed, only added to the overwhelming difficulty. Now they are just hoping for justice for Brittany.

  • RIP Brittany Tate

    My name is Bryan, I am Brittany’s cousin. For the ones on here that had bad things to say first off you are a bunch of judgemental assholes. The things she was in jail for were not her fault. The boyfriend she was with turned it all on her so she took the fall, she did time for someone else. She was a kind and sweet person, she would have given anyone of you judgemental assholes the shirt off her back. Would you feel the same if it was your cousin or daughter or aunt or niece. She was all of those and no matter what she had done she has never rapped no one killed no one or anything like that so she never deserved to have her body dumped in a river.

  • RIP Brittany Tate

    My name is Bryan, I am Brittany’s cousin. For the ones on here that had bad things to say first off you are a bunch of judgemental assholes. The things she was in jail for were not her fault. The boyfriend she was with turned it all on her so she took the fall, she did time for someone else. She was a kind and sweet person, she would have given anyone of you judgemental assholes the shirt off her back. Would you feel the same if it was your cousin or daughter or aunt or niece. She was all of those and no matter what she had done she has never rapped no one killed no one or anything like that so she never deserved to have her body dumped in a river.

  • RIP Brittany Tate

    Update for Britt, Justice was not here for Britt. The asshole who shot her walked away with a Class C Felony (Reckless Homicide) wich is minimum of 2 years maximum of 15 years, not enough.You get more time getting caught with a bag of crack than you do for shooting someone. The only wittnesses were the other assholes in the car, neither would testify. Steven Brown was going to but when he got on the stand he only replied with “I don’t know”. His plea was withdrawn and he will be maxed out with no more than 8 years. Because no one would testify they could only go off Jerry Williams word that he didn’t know the gun was loaded, that it was an accident. But in court the lawyer stated it was a gun that required 10 lbs. of pressure to pull the trigger, williams responded with “you don’t know what your talking about that it had a hair trigger.” If that is the case then why did he have the gun to her head to begin with, to his knowledge it was very easy to make the gun go off. The car still has not been found. If it was an accident the why dump her body, why not take her to the hospital, why try to cover it up. Anyways, justice was not served for her, neither person got murder or got more than 15 years for this. 1 extacy pill can get you 7 years, but shooting someone accident or not you get 15 years max. I feel Britt doesn’t get her life back in 15 years so why should he get out in 15 years or less. The shooter isn’t even getting in trouble for dumping her, only reckless homicide, they aren’t even worried about the car.

  • RIP Brittany Tate

    Update for Britt, Justice was not here for Britt. The asshole who shot her walked away with a Class C Felony (Reckless Homicide) wich is minimum of 2 years maximum of 15 years, not enough.You get more time getting caught with a bag of crack than you do for shooting someone. The only wittnesses were the other assholes in the car, neither would testify. Steven Brown was going to but when he got on the stand he only replied with “I don’t know”. His plea was withdrawn and he will be maxed out with no more than 8 years. Because no one would testify they could only go off Jerry Williams word that he didn’t know the gun was loaded, that it was an accident. But in court the lawyer stated it was a gun that required 10 lbs. of pressure to pull the trigger, williams responded with “you don’t know what your talking about that it had a hair trigger.” If that is the case then why did he have the gun to her head to begin with, to his knowledge it was very easy to make the gun go off. The car still has not been found. If it was an accident the why dump her body, why not take her to the hospital, why try to cover it up. Anyways, justice was not served for her, neither person got murder or got more than 15 years for this. 1 extacy pill can get you 7 years, but shooting someone accident or not you get 15 years max. I feel Britt doesn’t get her life back in 15 years so why should he get out in 15 years or less. The shooter isn’t even getting in trouble for dumping her, only reckless homicide, they aren’t even worried about the car.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Bryan – I agree – it’s wrong and unfair all over.

    These are REPEAT criminals. Williams was no stranger to guns. He didn’t like Brit saying shit to him about having it – and he killed her to shut her up.

    Williams was a pussy then and is a pussy now. He chose trial by judge. His buddies are pussies for backing out of their pleas. I hope they get some harder time.

    Take heart, although it probably means someone else will have to suffer at the hands of these 3 – they’ll be back in soon after they are released. They are hard-core repeat offenders. They TAKE what they want. They DO what they want.

    Justice would be served if all 3 died in prison.

    And ignore the assholes. The majority of people here do NOT believe Brittany deserved to die. But remember – this site is all about judging. Sometimes some people forget that it’s the bad guys we’re supposed to judge – not the victims.

    Huggz.

  • Zibarro

    Bryan – I agree – it’s wrong and unfair all over.

    These are REPEAT criminals. Williams was no stranger to guns. He didn’t like Brit saying shit to him about having it – and he killed her to shut her up.

    Williams was a pussy then and is a pussy now. He chose trial by judge. His buddies are pussies for backing out of their pleas. I hope they get some harder time.

    Take heart, although it probably means someone else will have to suffer at the hands of these 3 – they’ll be back in soon after they are released. They are hard-core repeat offenders. They TAKE what they want. They DO what they want.

    Justice would be served if all 3 died in prison.

    And ignore the assholes. The majority of people here do NOT believe Brittany deserved to die. But remember – this site is all about judging. Sometimes some people forget that it’s the bad guys we’re supposed to judge – not the victims.

    Huggz.

  • tutkill

    Justice would be served if all 3 died in prison.

    wouldn’t that be a good thing!

    However, they most likely will come out in a few years to hurt someone else.
    sometimes the legal system seems like a joke and this is one of those moments.

    Hang in there Brittany’s family

  • tutkill

    Justice would be served if all 3 died in prison.

    wouldn’t that be a good thing!

    However, they most likely will come out in a few years to hurt someone else.
    sometimes the legal system seems like a joke and this is one of those moments.

    Hang in there Brittany’s family

  • RunecirE

    And ignore the assholes. The majority of people here do NOT believe Brittany deserved to die. But remember – this site is all about judging. Sometimes some people forget that it’s the bad guys we’re supposed to judge – not the victims.

    I was not around when all of this was going on, Z, and I am very sorry you had to endure it. It is shameful that anyone from here would attack a victim, no matter their background. My heart goes out to you, Z, and your family. I hope time will grant you relief from your pain.

  • RunecirE

    And ignore the assholes. The majority of people here do NOT believe Brittany deserved to die. But remember – this site is all about judging. Sometimes some people forget that it’s the bad guys we’re supposed to judge – not the victims.

    I was not around when all of this was going on, Z, and I am very sorry you had to endure it. It is shameful that anyone from here would attack a victim, no matter their background. My heart goes out to you, Z, and your family. I hope time will grant you relief from your pain.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    I was not around when all of this was going on, Z, and I am very sorry you had to endure it. It is shameful that anyone from here would attack a victim, no matter their background. My heart goes out to you, Z, and your family. I hope time will grant you relief from your pain.

    Thank you R. I feel really bad for Bryan, my daughter and Britt’s other blood relatives. She was on the right path – finally – and they were sooo proud of her! Bryan was making plans for her to come see his twins (my grandbabies) but they never got finalized. She never got to meet them, nor they her. Just one of many things these heartless pricks made sure Brittany will never get to do.

    It sickens me that our “justice” system is so out of whack on so many things. Killers and Pedophiles get minimum time – while someone caught smoking, growing or possessing any kind of drug goes down for a long, long time. The “War on Drugs” has taken the focus off of more serious crimes and punishments. Our jails and prisons are overcrowded with so many people accused/convicted of drug crimes that there’s no room for the killers and pedo’s. That is WRONG!

    Do you know that only one of these defendants is facing an “A” felony – and it ISN’T the one who shot her? It’s the one accused of abusing a corpse!!! Does that sound right? Kill, and it’s a “C” felony – help someone undress and dump the body in the river – THAT is an “A” felony!

    Sorry to ramble. Just the more I sit and think about it, the angrier I become.

    Thanks again for your well wishes.

  • Zibarro

    I was not around when all of this was going on, Z, and I am very sorry you had to endure it. It is shameful that anyone from here would attack a victim, no matter their background. My heart goes out to you, Z, and your family. I hope time will grant you relief from your pain.

    Thank you R. I feel really bad for Bryan, my daughter and Britt’s other blood relatives. She was on the right path – finally – and they were sooo proud of her! Bryan was making plans for her to come see his twins (my grandbabies) but they never got finalized. She never got to meet them, nor they her. Just one of many things these heartless pricks made sure Brittany will never get to do.

    It sickens me that our “justice” system is so out of whack on so many things. Killers and Pedophiles get minimum time – while someone caught smoking, growing or possessing any kind of drug goes down for a long, long time. The “War on Drugs” has taken the focus off of more serious crimes and punishments. Our jails and prisons are overcrowded with so many people accused/convicted of drug crimes that there’s no room for the killers and pedo’s. That is WRONG!

    Do you know that only one of these defendants is facing an “A” felony – and it ISN’T the one who shot her? It’s the one accused of abusing a corpse!!! Does that sound right? Kill, and it’s a “C” felony – help someone undress and dump the body in the river – THAT is an “A” felony!

    Sorry to ramble. Just the more I sit and think about it, the angrier I become.

    Thanks again for your well wishes.

  • strawberry23

    Brittant tate this is samantha laney… girl you was my best friend and Ill ALWAYS love you.. your in my thoughts and memories.. i LOVE YOU MY BUTT CHEECK… thats what we called each other..lol.. God i miss you.. i need you here with me

  • detre

    I miss You cuzzo. I can't wait to see you again one day at the end of the light. I WISH I COULD FORGIVE THE PIECE OF ******* for a boyfriend but my heart can't seem to heal. I love YOU, Detre'