Teens Charged With Sexual Battery On Student
September 25, 2008 by Morbid
SEBASTIAN, Fla. - A group of Sebastian River Middle School students were on a public school bus returning from a soccer game. At some point, two boys aged 14 and 15, pulled a 6th grade boy into the aisle. They then forcibly pulled his pants down and held them down, while the other stuck an apple pie box in the boy’s ass. The entire time, the other students were taking pictures with their cell phones. Not too funny, and my opinion, a whole lot of creepy. The two boys are now charged with felony attempted sexual battery on a child. Wonder if they are laughing now?
Of course, some will probably think that the felony charges are too harsh, but if this had happened to a 6th grade girl, would you still feel like they were blowing things out of proportion? No matter, really, as Superintendent Harry La Cava has stated why the charges were filed the way they were.
“We are taking the necessary actions that the law provides for us and the student conduct book outlines for us,†La Cava said. “The issue comes, ‘Are your children safe?’ Yes, we feel they are, and we’re going to make sure they continue to be safe.â€
The two students are no longer at the school and are currently in a juvenile detention center. The video report also states that there were teachers on the bus at the time of the incident, and that action will be taken against them if necessary.
You know what? I am inclined to agree with La Cava’s comments as well as the charges. We did some stupid shit as kids. I was even involved in bullying a bit…I am not talking from the side of someone who was ever bullied. But seriously, had I ever pulled a young boy’s pants down and attempted to stick something up his ass…I would deserve the harshest penalties allowed by law. It’s sexual assault. It’s not a fight, someone didn’t poor a drink on him, he wasn’t shoved…he was stripped naked in front of his peers and then had some teenagers stick something in his ass while people took pictures. Fuck ‘em and throw the book at ‘em while you are at it.
On a side note, the video report below does what they usually do with the zoom-in on the court documents technique. You can freeze-frame it and read a good bit of what happened on the bus, feel free to comment on what you read, but please do not post the teenagers names.
1:59 pm on September 25th, 2008
No!! No!! Not okay. That child is going to be forever tomented over this. Those boys should be punished. That is sexual assault!
2:29 pm on September 25th, 2008
UN-EXCUSIBLE for this action and you know what that is sexual assault and i am sorry that poor young kid was unable to beat the shit out of the two kids that tormented him and WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS NOT JUMPING IN TO DO A THING, YOU NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS I MEAN EVERYONE, TEACHERS BUS DRIVERS EVERYONE ON THAT BUS HOLD ACCOUNTABLE this is very very disturbing to me because these kids should not be acting like this and who is their parents
these juvees shoiuld fry and you know locke them up
2:40 pm on September 25th, 2008
i agree with nadine and april here. everyone on that bus should be held accountable. what the hell were those adults doing that they didn’t see or stop or help that child? and the ones taking pictures, they should be charged for not coming to this boy’s aid. unfreakin’ believable.
2:52 pm on September 25th, 2008
Umm yeah this isn’t just typical bullying. He was sexually abused. I can’t believe no one stopped this….everyone was taking pictures with their cell phones. See this is what’s wrong with society, and sorry but my parents raised me better than that. There is just no way I could of stood by and watched something like that! If you can’t break it up, tell a teacher. I mean this kid is going to harbor this for the rest of his life. (shaking head)
2:56 pm on September 25th, 2008
If you read the document they zoom in on, you can read a bit about how when it first started, it was at the back of the bus and the boy repeatedly told these two idiots to stop, but no up front heard what was going on.
As for when everything spilled out into the aisle…well, I think that is also why they made a mention in regards to the teachers on the bus. I’ll try and keep the story updated as more information gets released.
3:10 pm on September 25th, 2008
Did they just not care (talking, gossiping, texting, etc.)? A school bus isn’t that big. Seems like they would of heard some of the confrontation at least, even before it spilled out into the aisle…..
Please do keep us updated, I am very sad for this boy.
3:19 pm on September 25th, 2008
This completely disgusts me. If this happened to my child I would be scared to see my reaction. I would want to kill them.
I don’t think the charge is too harsh at all. I think these fuckers should have a piece box shoved in their asses & THEN be charged!
3:37 pm on September 25th, 2008
The charge is NOT too harsh! Remember being 12 or 13? Remember how horrible it was just to make the smallest error in front of your peers. This poor fellow may not get over this anytime soon, if at all!
I’m with Mommyof3luckyme, I’d be planning some accidents!
4:10 pm on September 25th, 2008
I HATE THIS WORLD AND WHERE IT’S GOING. This is so sad since it’s kids!
4:17 pm on September 25th, 2008
Here is something I would like to know. Where do children (teens) come up with this stuff? Do they see it on TV or something? I am just so upset with all of this…..how could anyone do this to a child, and on a school bus AND with teachers present! OMG, this is so horrible….sort of makes you wonder what the parents are like now doesn’t it? I would be willing to bet, this is not the first time these children have bullied others, hopefully now it will STOP!
I feel so sorry for the child that this happened to, he will never get passed this.
Thanks for the story Morbid….and thanks to all of you that post stories and comments at DD, I found this site via Casey HorseFace and continue to read and post at times…..thanks for all of the news!
4:18 pm on September 25th, 2008
I feel so bad for this little boy, I can’t imagine this happening to one of my children or my grandchildren… I also can’t imagine my reaction to this, and I’m usually very much in control.. I’d be borrowing my son-in-laws gun ( he’s a cop) and doing something terrible.. That’s why I don’t own a gun… That german-irish descent can really blow.. My heart goes out to this little boy…
4:28 pm on September 25th, 2008
Stupid punks. I hope their parents are horrified at their actions. Wait til they hear the crime in juvie hall. I don’t wish that type of assault on ANYONE but I would not be surprised if the juvie hall regulars didn’t try to give them a taste of their own medicine. I also hope the punks’ parents get the assaulted boys counseling bills for as long as it takes for him to recover. Is the assaulted boy still at the school or are the parents planning on moving him far, far away?
Oh, and yay Floriduh! The fucked-up state!
4:39 pm on September 25th, 2008
What I want to know is why was a 12 year old (6th grader), in the same bus with 15 & 16 year olds? At that age they should have been in high school. Teens and smaller children should never be together. I have 2 teenagers, 1 preteen, and a 3 year old toddler (yes I am exhausted). My preteen is with kids her age, the teens hang out with kids their age, and my 3 year old with toddlers. They are all in different stages of development, therefore, you don’t leave kids that age together. It won’t wipe it out this type of abuse completely, but at the very least you know they aren’t being bullied by older kids or abused. This is still a little boy. These two pieces of shit , overpowered a boy!
gm OF 10…I am with you. I can’t own a gun because I know I’d blow someone away if they touch one of my kids.
I can’t begin to imagine what I would do if he were my child.
5:07 pm on September 25th, 2008
Is this place a small town? When I grew up everyone from a certain neighborhood rode the same bus and then the bus would drop off the kids at the different schools. Kindergarten through High School…all the same bus.
What I want to know is when did it become funny to stick something up someone’s rear in school? From what I remember, you didn’t want to get anywhere near another person’s asshole, especially if they were the same sex as you. You would think that the bullies would be ridiculed more than the victim here. Two guys having a fixation on putting something in another male’s rectum?
Yeah, I’d be the first one to start questioning these guy’s sexuality…and I bet they’d lose their minds over it.
They ganged up on someone smaller and younger than them and put something in his ass. You can’t get more sissy than that folks.
This wasn’t a prank, this wasn’t someone getting beat up, this is plain old sexual assault. They don’t deserve leniency. Period.
5:17 pm on September 25th, 2008
I hope every single person questions that. And WTF???
When was something like this ever supposed to be funny? Poor kid, you know he’s totally traumatized over this. If his family can’t move, I hope at least they can put him in a different school where no one knows him.
And honestly? I hope the other jd’s give them more than a taste of their own medicine…….
6:22 pm on September 25th, 2008
Okay – I went back and watched the video. It was a 14 and 15 year old and the victim (YES, VICTIM) was 12. The bus was transporting them to or from a soccer game. It also states the kids taking pics were teammates. If you stop the video and read the report – it shows that the incident was about 2-3 minutes. Where the fuck were the adults? I strongly feel that there is some blame to be placed there as well.
BTW- Does anyone remember The Breakfast Club? Where Emilio Estevez says that he taped the hairy guys ass cheeks together?? That is all I could think of here.
7:33 pm on September 25th, 2008
OMFG, that’s just enough. It’s bad enough there’s this insane obsession with prison rape around here, but now we’re advocating for the sexual assault of a 14 year old BOY?! Pardon me while I puke. Rape is rape, and it isn’t any kind of civilized penalty for a crime – assuming we aren’t all sexually demented criminals ourselves anyway. So I guess I’ll just speak for myself. I know the horrors on this site get people worked up into a vengeful rage, and I generally ignore it. Even though I feel it’s more likely your 18 yr old son busted on a pot charge is going to be the one sexually assualted by those hardcore predators, not the other way around like people prefer to fantasize. But I can’t ignore this one. The casual way in which anyone can even subtly suggest that 14 and 15 yr old boys ought to be raped *no matter WHAT they did* is just too fucking much.
8:18 pm on September 25th, 2008
I find it very hard to believe that the teachers in the front of the bus couldn’t hear him screaming – and if they really couldn’t, they weren’t doing their job in controlling the chaotic atmosphere on the bus.
I never understood why teachers sit in the front anyway. If their job is to watch over the passengers, shouldn’t at least one of them sit in the back?
The two little rapists (and that’s exactly what they are) will have to be monitored now for the rest of their lives. You think they’re bad now, just wait.
I had a friend who went to juvie for stealing. When he got out, he was much worse – scary to even be around. I’m not saying that the punishment isn’t fitting, but sometimes I think kids should receive a little better rehabilitation in those places. They are, after all, still kids.
12:06 am on September 26th, 2008
Um, NO THE PENALTY IS NOT TOO HARSH.
Not only did a RAPE take place—specifically ANAL RAPE—but the people who took pictures and/or video of it on their cell phones were making child pornography. Just because the perpetrators were under the age of 18 doesn’t make this “harmless kids’ stuff.” Think back to when you were 14 or 15. Let me guess: you already knew that forcibly sodomizing another person was wrong, right??
Yes, yes you did–unless you also happen to be a pedophile and/or rapist.
1:47 am on September 26th, 2008
Okay I have a question. The team mates that sat there and took pics of the assualt..why have they not been arrested for making child porn (as XENU pointed out above) Thats what it is… the victim is a child, so throw the fucking book at them too.
Now with that said, if this had been my son..damn those kids would be hurting.
6:34 am on September 26th, 2008
I am disgusted with this. The penalty is not too harsh. This is sexual assault. Where were the adults on the bus? Too busy talking…whya re they on the bus if they are not going to supervise these kids. Just goes to show the mob mentality…kids took pictures instead of helping the victim. I’m sure some of them knew this was wrong but for fear of being the next victim or becoming an outcast they chose not to help. Very fucking sad.
7:34 am on September 26th, 2008
That poor boy!!! And the boys that did it, I think they should have the harshest of punishments!!! They should be charged with sexual battery…
I wonder if what they did would have to register as a sexual offender???
Does anyone know??
11:02 am on September 26th, 2008
My heart goes out to this boy…I agree with the others, everyone on that bus should be held accounted for this. I want just want to slap these people’s faces that were on that bus, and say what the hell is wrong with you.
11:10 am on September 26th, 2008
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Agreeded, but still they should be punished severly. No slap on the hand……..
12:25 pm on September 26th, 2008
An eye for an eye, isn’t this how it should be? Those boys need to know the true humiliation & exactly what that younger boy went through. I think it out to be done on a bus full of their peers, just to even it up. I also feel that every student who took pictures and every adult on that bus needs to be held accountable for their actions, or lack thereof.
3:02 pm on September 26th, 2008
How do we read these things and not want to put our kids in bubbles and keep them home forever to protect them!? I feel sick that no one did a damn thing to help this boy.
1:23 pm on September 27th, 2008
this is sad i think the 2 fuck’s who did that to him should be shown just what that does to someone feels like,they should have their asses riped open while all others snap pics from their cell phone,and the adults on the bus should lose their jobs if they cany control situations on a bus.. what the fuck is this world coming too!!!!!
6:10 pm on September 27th, 2008
the truly main problem here is that in March the Sebastian river high scool baseball team was on an overnight trip an a student was held down by his teammates, his pants were removed and they tried to insert a 2 liter bottle in his rectum. Dr LaCava said he would just have to deal with it and the students involved will be eligible for the team this year. If the superintendant of the school district would have been strong against the students involved, I truly believe this second incident would not have happened.
8:18 pm on September 27th, 2008
Uh, no. But I’ll keep in mind there are a couple people right here waiting in line to rape and torture boys, with a sense of righteous justice.
12:44 pm on September 28th, 2008
These kids had NO BUSINESS doing this to the other kid & I’m glad they’re being punished. They should’ve learned a LONG TIME ago, (kindergarten!) to leave other people alone. This is nasty bullying behavior.
My son as a preschooler, had a friend who was always ALL over him, taking toys away, hitting & pulling hair. Even when she was hugging him; it wasn’t nice, it was like it was against his will, and too rough…I know small children often don’t know about personal space, but they need to be taught. I always wondered WHY the kid’s Mom didn’t tell her to keep her hands to herself, or to be more gentle. I think this is how bullying starts.
I always tell my kids: Keep your hands to yourself!
2:40 pm on September 28th, 2008
Absolutely. If they didn’t know it was wrong, why did they do it surrepetitiously in the back of the bus?
I’m not sure about an eye for an eye or an anus for an anus but I do wonder if some public questioning — not exactly of whether they’re gay because there are numerous gay students in our schools who may or may not feel safe coming out of the closet but who would never, ever harm another person and should not be placed in a category with these perpetrators — but questioning about, “What went through your mind when you decided to put something in another person’s anus?”
“Why did you think it was okay to put something inside another person?”
“Do you think you would enjoy having someone put something inside you?”
“Are you happy your parents know you put an object inside another boy’s anus?”
“Would you tell a future roommate: ‘by the way when I was younger I liked to put things inside other guys’ anuses, even when they said no.’ ”
How about in a college or job interview. If you answered honestly the question, “What is the thing you regret most in your life?” You may be forced to say, “The time I shoved a box up another boy’s anus in ninth grade.”
And when they scream and whine and say it’s not fair, the questioner could say, “Hey, relax, boys, I’m just trying to understand where your head was at — why you thought it was fine to shove something up another student’s anus, forcibly. I mean if there’s some level on which this is okay that you know about and I don’t, I would really like to know about it, because a world where someone can do whatever pops into his head — well that just sounds like a great place to be!”
Just completely amicable questioning from an important adult in their lives (the coach? He could make himself useful at some point during this ordeal) in the tone of, “Listen, I totally get it. You wanted to shove something up another boy’s anus so you did it. My only question is your rationale. How did you think that was okay on any level?”
Actually I think all the kids — shovers, photographers, audience — could be questioned in an assembly or on video one by one. For the bystanders, pretty much the same thing, “I get that you thought this was okay or funny or interesting because you took ten pictures of it with your cell phone. I’m just looking for what was going through your head. If you thought it was entertaining, maybe you wanted something shoved up your anus, too. No? You think it would be painful? Oh, okay, so it’s fine as long as it’s happening to someone else? Ah…cool.”
10:39 am on September 29th, 2008
I guess you feel a slap on the wrist will teach these boys right from wrong; wake up!
12:09 pm on September 29th, 2008
stfu. Your child rape = gratifying justice fantasies are making me fucking nauseous.
12:37 pm on September 29th, 2008
Why don’t you stfu? My fantasy is a perfect world where nothing like this ever happens, but I know that’s not the real world. It’s assholes like you who say it’s okay to the teenagers who committed this atrocity and slap them on the wrist that cause others to keep doing their sick shit because they get away with it. It’s people like you who make me nauseous.
1:02 pm on September 29th, 2008
While I always appreciate having many things attributed to me, I think you’ve invented a whole alternate personality for me. My position can be summed up as follows:
It’s.Never.Okay.to.Rape.Children.Never.
Feel free to argue that. In a brand new post in the forums, even.
1:44 pm on September 29th, 2008
I didn’t read anything in that poster’s comments advocating a slap on the wrist. He or she simply stated they did not believe a 14yo who commits a sexual assault should be sexually assaulted in return.
4:31 pm on September 29th, 2008
No doubt. Castille didn’t say that. What Castille said was that Castille doesn’t think think raping a rapist fixes anything. All it does is, uh, create another rapist.
What Coyote said was:
If you really meant, that’d be completely sick, this idea of wanting children to rape other children with an audience of still more children to look on…But I seriously doubt you meant it, so why not just say you were venting and then we can all move on? Venting is justifiable. Actually advocating child rape, of course, is not…as I expect that you agree
((Meanwhile, Castille, yes, there are many people on this site who are all about “an eye for an eye,” even though that philosophy only creates, in practices, more monsters and a more monstrous society.))
7:28 pm on September 29th, 2008
I don’t get sweated about it until people begin threatening children, which for me, moves the conversation from venting to batshit insanity that needs called out, lol.
3:24 pm on September 30th, 2008
The only thing I can argue on that quote is that the word “Children” should be replaced with “Any living being”. I do not advocate rape of any kind, nor am I
Yes, I am venting, as this article pisses me off, but I do feel that the punishment should fit the crime no matter what the crime committed. No sick fantasies here, but if the two boys in this story were subjected to the same brutality and humiliation that they bestowed upon the 11 year old boy, then yes, I would feel that some sick, perverted justice has been served. Enough said.
1:46 pm on October 5th, 2008
Yeah. I know what you’re saying. But to have that kind of justice system would indeed be truly “perverted” justice. It would take a real monster to inflict the punishment, that’s the problem. Some other sick fuck rapist would have to do it, which would mean that the sick fuck rapist would get to have their jollies and bust a perverted nut. I know what you mean, though, and I’m sure Castille does, too. We all feel paralyzed about what to do in response to a horrible case like this. We are all together in that.
12:01 am on December 11th, 2008
Thanks Sugarglider.
We could always go back to the good ‘ole days when they took ‘em to the nearest tree and hung them. Justice was much simpler then.
10:03 pm on April 25th, 2009
This poor kid will eventually leave his hometown, never to return. No High School Reunions will ever be attended because this young man will FOREVER be a victim of humiliation and pity by his peers. My worry is that he will have self-esteem issues and will never see himself as worthy of being above average in anything he pursues in life. These are the permanent scars that may never be erased, and even if they beat the bullies black & blue in the Public Square… those scars will still remain.
10:44 pm on April 25th, 2009
Woosh! Get some counseling? I know people who’d never dream of returning to a reunion, who are nothing but annoyed and angry when people from grade school try to friend them on facebook… But have also moved out, away and left it behind them by choice. I’ve a whole peer group of geeks for whom life really opened up and began past their school years, and who realized their grade school bullies were more meaningless than they could’ve ever seen at the time in the larger picture of their lives. Fovever be a victim? *Really?* Damn, you do that shit to yourself.
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