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Christopher Payne Put His Kids in Storage

9/5/08 - I have been fortunate to have had some contact with Jamie Hallam, and she shared some wonderful memories of Ariana and Tyler with me. She has given me permission to share these with you–scroll to the end of the article to get a glimpse into the happier days of these wonderful children. - Lizard

Storage unit at dreamindemon.com

Tucson, AZ - It’s a relatively common phenomenon–someone signs an agreement for a rental storage unit, gets assigned a space, stows his stuff…and then doesn’t keep up with the payments. It happened in Tucson at a rental facility called the U-Store-It, and in February 2007, the unit in question got cleaned out.

Among other items, employees found a plastic tub. A plastic tub that smelled horrible. The tub and the unit’s other contents went into the trash dumpster. Apparently at least one employee worried over that tub overnight, because the next day, police were called to investigate. They found the cause of the unpleasant odor: the remains of a little girl. 

An autopsy showed the little girl had many broken bones, in various stages of healing. Half of her ribs were broken. Her right shoulder was broken. There were signs of trauma to leg and jaw bones, a neck bone, and the back of the skull. And at or near her time of death, her back had been broken.

Her body was decomposed to the point that her date of death could be specified only as sometime between March and September 2006.

It took a couple of weeks, but finally officials released the identity of the child: Ariana Payne, age 4.

Ariana & Tyler Payne

Ariana and Tyler Paine at dreamindemon.com

Ariana was born to Christopher Payne and Jamie Hallam in October 2002. She was their second child, following Tyler, who was born the year before. When Payne and Hallam divorced in 2003, Hallam was awarded full custody; Payne wasn’t even allowed visitation. By early 2006, it looked like Payne might’ve worked out some of the issues that led to the divorce and custody arrangements, and Hallam allowed him some visitation, including overnight stays. And then Payne refused to return the children.

Hallam contacted Child Protective Services (CPS) and Tucson police to try to get her children back. At the time, CPS was investigating Hallam for suspected child neglect and instructed police to leave the children with Payne. Even though Hallam had legal custody. Even though there was no investigation into whether Payne was a suitable guardian.

Subsequently, the allegations against Hallam were found to be unsubstantiated, but CPS made no effort to return Ariana and Tyler to their mother. In fact, CPS never even checked on Ariana and Tyler.


When Ariana’s body was discovered, Tyler’s location was unknown. Police spent days searching an area landfill, presuming him dead. They found nothing.

Arrested and charged with Ariana’s and Tyler’s murders were their father Christopher Matthew Payne and Payne’s live-in girlfriend Reina Irene Gonzales. It is believed both children were starved to death.

Reina Gonzales, Christopher Payne

Reina Gonzales & Christopher Payne at dreamindemon.com

Until this week, it looked like Gonzales, now 24, would get a shot at the death penalty for her role in the deaths of Ariana and Tyler. However, she pleaded guilty Monday to two counts of second-degree murder as part of a plea agreement. In exchange for testifying against Payne at his upcoming trial, she sidestepped the needle and will be sentenced to two concurrent prison terms of 22 years.

This week’s hearing shed further light on Ariana’s and Tyler’s suffering in the weeks and months before they died. While Christopher Payne beat the children, locked them in a closet for punishment, and denied them food and water, Gonzalez…well, she didn’t do a damn thing. “He told me not to worry, they were his children,” she said. “After that I started getting high on heroin more so I could block what was happening to the children.”

Regarding a particular beating of Tyler, Gonzales said that “Chris had hit him with a belt and opened his head up.” She also reported that she “knew it was getting infected.” And, no, she told the judge, she did not seek treatment for the infected wound.

After Ariana and and then Tyler died, Gonzales and Payne abandoned the apartment, leaving behind the corpses in a plastic tub in a closet. Later, they returned long enough to clean out the closet and transport the tub to the rented storage unit.


In June, the State of Arizona agreed to pay a $1,000,000 settlement to Hallam for CPS’s role in her children’s deaths. It appears that the outcome of litigation against the City of Tucson for the police department’s role is still pending.

Tyler has never been found.

Christopher Payne’s trial is set to begin January 27, 2009. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Jamie Hallam has set up a memorial profile at http://www.myspace.com/jamiehallam222; she graciously gave me permission to include any of the photos at the site in this story. Thank you, Jamie.

Update 9/05/08 - Letter from Jamie Hallam:

I would love to tell you about Ariana and Tyler. They were the most wonderful children that any mother could have. Ariana and Tyler were 11 months apart. They were so close in age, and I think that is what made their bond so much closer. After leaving my ex-husband when Ariana was only 4 weeks old, we moved into our own place. There were not a lot of other kids around, so they mostly played with each other. It was always the 3 of us. I didn’t want to send them to daycare. On our days at home, they played like most normal kids do. Tyler loved to play outside in the backyard with his trucks and his cars. Ariana would play with her dolls. Her favorite activity most of all was coloring. She had a little bag that she would carry everywhere. Before we went anywhere, she would make sure that it was stocked up with her paper and her crayons and coloring pencils. She would put pens, markers, and even chalk in that little bag–anything that she could color with. She just loved all the different colors. She would fall asleep coloring on most nights. I cannot forget to tell you that she would sometimes extend her artwork from paper to the walls or dressers. LOL.

Tyler loved Scooby-Doo. He had Scooby-Doo bedsheets, and t-shirts, and every video possible that had Scooby-Doo. He liked to ride his bike (with training wheels, of course). Ariana never got the chance to learn how to ride a bike.

Every day we would have what I called “Quality Time”–that is when I turned off the TV and shut off the phone and didn’t answer the door. Because for that one hour every day, it was about us being together. I would let them choose what activity that we were going to do. Usually it was making cookies. Tyler LOVED to cook! Or we would do arts and crafts because that was Ariana’s favorite. I remember how I bought one of those toy kitchen sets for Ariana, and Tyler would fight her to play with it. I had to go out and buy another one so they each had one. Every time Tyler would get a little money, he would ask if we could go to the store so he could buy plastic food for his kitchen set. LOL.

They were the most amazing children. They loved each other so much and had a bond that was inseparable. They were like night and day, though. Ariana would go to bed early; Tyler liked to stay up late. He would wake Ariana up if she was sleeping and he was awake. She loved milk with her food; he drank juice. He was particular in what he ate. Ariana loved to eat. She would eat everything on her plate then move into Tyler’s seat and eat the rest of his meal. Their personalities were so sweet and gentle. Tyler was a true momma’s boy. He liked to be everywhere I was. Ariana was more independent. She would play by herself and be comfortable with it, but she was very cuddly. She would sit on my lap for hours and didn’t move. I can still hear her little voice in my head saying “I LOOVVE YOUU.” It was such a sweet gentle voice.

Okay, this is getting harder to write. I think that I am going to stop now because I can barely see the keyboard. My heart is broken, and no one can fix it. The pain that I feel is immense. I have no earthly words to explain what I am going through. It feels as though my heart has been ripped out of my chest while it was still beating and I am left to survive with this big gaping hole where it once was. If I could do that day over again, I would. I would trade places with them if I could. There is nothing in this world that could compare to a mother’s grief. I am extremely saddened by everything that they had to go through. What POS asshole would do that to his own kids. Sorry, but there is so much anger and so many questions why.

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45 Responses to “Christopher Payne Put His Kids in Storage”
  1. Ruby says:

    Good God!! (and I use that term very loosely) This story has me close to retching up my morning coffee. Hell, just the dude’s FACE has me close to retching up my morning coffee.

    Poor, poor babies. Their mama wanted them. How could the POS and his girlfriend systematically torture them to death when they could have just dropped them off at mom’s and said, “see ya!” Now wouldn’t that have been a whole lot easier than all that work of killing them and living with a dead body in your closet, you stupid asshat?

    Rest in peace, little beauties. I hope Tyler is found, as well; I am so sorry for your pain, Jamie Hallam.

  2. Ruby says:

    P.S. I can’t access that myspace you listed for Jamie, Lizard. It comes up as a deleted account.

  3. Nanette says:

    Such beautiful children born to such a f’ugly piece of shit!!

    Rest in peace little angels, may the warmth of God’s arms fill you with the safety and security you didn’t have here on this earth.

  4. crimenthusiast says:

    What adorable children. Jamie, I am so sorry for your loss. I am so flabbergasted, I just don’t know what to think.

    All I continually here when things like this happen, is how Family Services was so understaffed and underwhelmed. When is the safety and protection of our children going to be more important to bureaucrats that they give these programs more money and support.

    Stupid ignorant asshat and girlfriend.

  5. Abroad says:

    I can see that I am woefully under-utilising my storage unit……

    What do these people think is going to happen to a corpse left in a tub in a unit rented in their names? It will magically dry out and blow away as dust? The unit will seal itself in concrete and jump off a pier? The storage facility fairy will clear it away?

    I suppose it is a mercy that some bad people are so stupid……

  6. WTF says:
    P.S. I can’t access that myspace you listed for Jamie, Lizard. It comes up as a deleted account.

  7. WryBread says:

    Another Gonzalez? The Gonzalez family is doing itself proud lately. I’m sorry this heroin bitch isn’t going to get her chance at the Final Needle. She wanted a place to stay to get high and it didn’t bother her that two people were being murdered right beside her lazy, f*cked up cunt-head.

    And as for him — next Faces of Meth poster boy? What’s with the pink ears — is he embarrassed about something? Maybe that he didn’t put the kids on a bus and send them back to their mother instead of beating them to death?

    Sickening, sickening, sickening.

  8. Jack Shizz says:

    *sighs*

    I am so sorry Ms. Hallam.

    Rest in peace sweet children

  9. impqueen says:

    Excellent article, Lizard, as always!

    Those poor, poor babies. If I was Jamie Hallam, i think i might be tempted to acquire firearms. And use them.

  10. Gidget says:

    Jesus. Just … Jesus.

  11. Morticia says:

    Such a sad story. As a mom, my heart goes out to these children’s mom, who tried to do something and was not successful.

    The father should be shot on the spot, but I would not let that other beast off so easy. The girlfriend saw the suffering, saw the pain this monster was inflicting on those kids. At what point does personal responsibility kick in for some people?

    Take the two kids in the middle of the night or when first presented an opportunity and go the hospital, go to the police.

    Anything less makes her as much of a monster as the father.

  12. Harley_Tech says:

    Chris Payne, you are the lowest form of life this world has to offer. You sick sick selfish bastard!

    These poor little babies only had had each other, and you don’t even have the decency to let them be together after you killed them you coward.

    I hope you don’t get the death penalty you sick fuck, you deserve to life every day in a cage with nothing but the memory of what a sick demented coward you are. I hope they paper the walls of that cage with pictures of these two little angels and you are forced to see their faces every day and night till it kills you.

    Ariana and Tyler no longer suffer in a body broken by their sperm donor and his cunt.

    Rest easy babies, your spirit and soul live on in your mommy.

    Jamie, I hope you can find peace one day. Your babies are beautiful and at peace now. I hope you can find peace in knowing that.

    R

    PS. Nice write up Lizard, but it is not nice to make and old man cry.

  13. solange822001 says:

    Another CPS horror story. And as usual, we’ll just shake our heads and do NOTHING. We’ll conitnue to pay these people with our tax dollars, continue to pay them to sit on their asses while our children die. WHY??? Why is nothing done?? Can someone please explain to me why the government continues to let these agencies MURDER children????

  14. dammitall says:

    I just can’t get around the fact that somebody actually had sex with that ugly piece of shit twice.

  15. Lizard says:

    Thanks, WTF, I did screw up the URL during editing; I’ll see if I can get imp or Morbid to fix it.

    Lots of details I couldn’t “fit” into the story. Also living at the home was the child of Payne and Gonzales, who was not starved and not beaten. And it’s possible that Tyler’s remains were in that same dumpster in which Ariana was found, but police failed to search the whole dumpster. I am still scratching my head over that. If they were put into the SAME plastic bin, at what point were they separated? Was the bin thrown so hard into the dumpster that the contents “went everywhere”? And wouldn’t someone at that point noticed and immediately called police? I just can’t get my head around it. I can’t think of any scenario in which it makes sense that Tyler is still missing.

  16. Abroad says:
    [It's] possible that Tyler’s remains were in that same dumpster in which Ariana was found, but police failed to search the whole dumpster. I am still scratching my head over that.

    As well you might. That just does not sound right. Surely they would have emptied the dumpster completely once they knew it contained human remains?

  17. Lizard says:
    As well you might. That just does not sound right. Surely they would have emptied the dumpster completely once they knew it contained human remains?

    I’ll have to find the source article–they didn’t.

  18. Abroad says:
    I’ll have to find the source article–they didn’t.

    That is wrong on so many levels…… If that dumpster held the contents of that storage space that was emptied out and which held the body of Ariana, surely they should have sifted its contents for clues? It should have been painfully obvious that a crime had been committed. Why was it not treated as a crime scene?

    And how could they possibly assume that they had all the remains when they had one small body? In this day and age we always fear more than one, don’t we?

  19. Lizard says:

    “Both a detective and the patrol officer climbed into the Dumpster and looked for additional evidence, but found no other body…They did not empty the Dumpster onto the ground during their search.”

    Of course, a spokesman said it was “unlikely” they had overlooked Tyler’s body, speculating that Christopher Payne had returned to the unit sometime before February 7 and put Tyler’s remains in the dumpster, which had then been emptied.

    This is from an April 7, 2007, article in the Tucson Citizen, now archived. The text is available at findmissingkids.com (http://findmissingkids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=373).

  20. zenmom says:

    ok, so this is what I want…I want to see these worthless, POS’s put in a cell and starved, only to be taken out everyday to be whipped, beaten and tortured beyond recognition, leaving them in their cells, day after day, with broken bones and ribs and open, infected wounds until they die…die slowly you sick excuses for human beings!!!

    Rest in peace you poor little angel babies.

  21. michelle says:

    FUCK! Just FUCK! FUCK. Nasty shits.

    Another CPS horror story. And as usual, we’ll just shake our heads and do NOTHING. We’ll conitnue to pay these people with our tax dollars, continue to pay them to sit on their asses while our children die. WHY??? Why is nothing done?? Can someone please explain to me why the government continues to let these agencies MURDER children????

    I don’t know. Why? I don’t have the answer.

  22. silvahalo says:

    I don’t want to wait to see *if* he gets the death penalty I want him dead but first tortured beyond belief. It is so difficult to think how these beautiful children suffered…I can barely stand to imagine what their misery was like. Hell, I believe, will have a special place for bastards like this. Until then rot in prison and I know you will be beat daily…even in prison there are those who cannot stand for baby-killers.

    Rest in peace sweet Ariana & Tyler.

  23. Eclipse says:

    How heartbreaking for Jamie and her family. I read this when it was first posted and it is still making my heart ache. I can’t quite shake it. =(

    Those children were beautiful and loving and they deserved so much better from their “father” and from this world.

    How long will people continue to stand by and watch? Or continue to allow helpless children to fall through the cracks of the system because they’re overworked?

  24. April says:

    Ugh! Why do these people continue to have children?? I didn’t know that CPS stands for Careless Pieces of Shit….

    So sorry for your loss Jamie. I wish I could take away the pain and give you a lifetime with your beautiful children. *hugs*

  25. Peeperann says:

    OMG!! those poor babies. And fuck both those evil, moronic baby killers. And CPS, an evil joke that should have protected those beautiful, innocent, precious children.

    So let me get this sraight, there was an unfounded allegation against the mother, it was proven she wasn’t neglectful but they never thought to give them back to their mother? And never checked on them?

    Can the representive from CPS be shot right along with the fuckugly baby killers???

  26. Lizard says:
    I didn’t know that CPS stands for Careless Pieces of Shit….

    Or “Can’t Protect Shit.”

  27. Lizard says:
    So let me get this sraight, there was an unfounded allegation against the mother, it was proven she wasn’t neglectful but they never thought to give them back to their mother? And never checked on them?

    Um, pretty much, yeah. And, didn’t bother to check on the father, even though he had quite the criminal record for domestic and drug violations.

  28. mjkforever says:

    (warning, long rant ahead)

    The funny thing about CPS… they are ass-backwards when it comes to their investigations.

    When my daughter was about 2 years old, I picked her up from her babysitter’s one very hot summer day. The babysitter informed me my daughter had been a bit listless and didn’t really drink much that day. I called her doctor’s office (one of those assembly-line HMO facilities that had like, 20 doctors) and was told to bring her in. After waiting over an hour, some doctor I had never met before came in. I was a bit cranky, it was a day where it was over 90 degrees and I had just been made to wait for over an hour with an equally cranky toddler.

    What pushed me over the edge was that I could see on the clipboard he was holding, a hand written note that said “mother concerned child has not drank fluids and is listless” but the dumbass asked me, “So, what are you here for?” I lost it, I admit, I snapped at him and told him to look on the stupid chart. Big mistake.

    Instead of treating my daughter for the reason I brought her in in the first place, the jerk became focused on a small bruise she had on her thigh. He kept asking me where she got it. At first I did not understand where he was going with it, and got increasingly confused and agitated. It was only when he said, “You sure seem to be defensive,” that it dawned on me where he was going with it. I got VERY upset, gathered my daughter up, and left the office.

    Well, the next day, my daughter was fine. Drinking, eating, plenty of energy. Dropped her off at the babysitter’s and went to work.

    When I got home, there was a paper plastered to my screen door that CPS (called DCFS here in Chicago) had been there and I had 24 hours to call them before the police became involved. Bewildered, I called them only to be told they had to investigate my house and family. I was floored. Yeah, I was a bit of a bitch and refused at first. They got REALLY ugly with me, threatening me with a warrant and taking my daughter into protective custody if I did not comply. So I had no choice but to agree.

    The home visit was horrible. Here was a clean, well-maintained home. Yet they searched every inch of my house, the basement, the closets, under the freaking beds, even my cabinets and fridge. They pulled my 2 yr old daughter aside and asked her all kinds of terrible questions, “do you get enough to eat”, “does mommy or daddy hit you or touch you in bad ways” etc, etc. They were there for over 4 hours. They seemed almost disappointed that there wasn’t ONE thing to justify their intrusion, and yes, the case was immediately closed.

    I raised all kinds of hell with the doctor’s office. I was told repeatedly that the doctor was suspicious and did what he was supposed to do - alert the proper authorities of suspected “abuse”. Suspicious my ass, he of the God complex was pissed that I dared to give him shit. Not like he bothered reading her records to check if his “suspicion” had merit. Not like he bothered checking with my daughter’s primary doctor to see if she felt his “suspicion” had merit. He put my family through hell out of spite, plain and simple. It’s something that, over 13 years later, still haunts me.

    My point is, WHY, OH WHY, can’t CPS work that quickly and thoroughly when there is a legitimate case of OBVIOUS abuse and/or neglect??? Can you imagine all the innocent, young lives that could be saved?

  29. Hippiepoet says:
    My point is, WHY, OH WHY, can’t CPS work that quickly and thoroughly when there is a legitimate case of OBVIOUS abuse and/or neglect??? Can you imagine all the innocent, young lives that could be saved?

    MJK sorry you went through that shit….around 25 yrs ago my older sister went through some similar fucked up crap. Very scary.

    Lizard, excellent write up. I feel so very sorry for the mamma of these kids. I cannot imagine losing my children like this. Thanks for helping me flush my tear ducts this morning, darlin’. It is so hard looking at their little faces knowing…….knowing the horrendous pain they suffered.

    I’m with Harley on this one…..the motherfucker should not have the privilege of death (the easy way out)….he should be made to live the rest of his life within prison walls…….long fucking days, filled with constant ass fucking and beat downs from fellow inmates.

    RIP babies, sorry your dad was such a motherfucking heartless pig of a human.

  30. April says:
    Or “Can’t Protect Shit.”

    Or that.

  31. SweetDreams says:
    How long will people continue to stand by and watch? Or continue to allow helpless children to fall through the cracks of the system because they’re overworked?

    I couldn’t have put it better, CPS makes me want to scream! I can not believe that this type of thing is allowed to happen. Oh God, this story hurt my heart. I was already tearing up and when I went to Jamie’s myspace I was just bawling. Why did he keep them if he obviously didn’t want them and continued to beat and neglect them, oh how I wish he would have just given them back to thier mommy. I don’t even want to imagine what kind of pain that this mom is going through, if I lost my two babies in this way I don’t think I could even go on. Stay strong Jamie and I will be praying daily that the POS that was your babies father and his skanky whore will get everything that they deserve.

  32. Lilbay says:

    My prayers to the Mom that she someday finds the peace she seeks. She is amazing to be able to get through this all. That video was heartwrenching.
    i can not believe the girlfriend got only 2 22 years sentences. Did they really need her to testify? I mean after all it was obvious he and she was just as responsible.
    I pray he gets the death penalty and that the Mother makes it a point to be at every parole hearing the girl friend ever has If no more than to play that video and share the pain and experience that SHE allowed the Mom’s kids to go through. Do NOT let them allow that Bytch to leave that jail any time soon. Do not let the “system” allow her to fall out of a crack and out of jail.

  33. missanthropic says:

    it makes me so angry that this ugly piece of shit just made me shed a tear.
    FUCK you,Christopher Payne. FUCK you, Reina Gonzales.

    oh, and fuck you CPS.

    RIP Ariana and Tyler. I hope your heart heals, Jamie.

  34. MAjustaMom says:

    CPS absolutely should be charged, both the individuals involved in the “investigation” as well as their supervisors and all the way up - wherever that goes. I can not imagine the horror those poor babies suffered, nor can I imagine why someone would even think to do such horrible things to young, innocent lives. “do unto others as you would have them do to you” perhaps that is what should be done to Payne and his girlfriend for not doing anything. I hope “their” child has been placed in a safe, loving environment and does not inherit any of her parents lack of morals. Was this child exposed to all the abuse? Talk about needing therapy. CPS has to be accountable for EVERY child, if they are short-staffed, do something about it so this does not happen again!

  35. Lizard says:
    I hope “their” child has been placed in a safe, loving environment and does not inherit any of her parents lack of morals. Was this child exposed to all the abuse?

    No real mention of Christopher Payne, Jr., except that he was placed into care upon Gozales’s arrest. I’m guessing that yes, he was exposed to the abuse, but I think he was quite young at the time of Ariana’s and Tyler’s abuse, so we can hope he has gotten what he’s needed since then to grow up healthy and unlike his bio-contributors.

  36. brianag says:

    I live in Tucson, and have heard a lot of coverage on this story. This has triggered another CPS investigation, hopefully they will get it right eventually…

  37. ScotchyScotch says:

    Christopher Payne is living proof that monsters, TRUE MONSTERS, do exist.

    Just look at the photos of those two kids? How could anyone put their hands on them with violent intent let alone beat them hard enough to break their bones - and do it multiple times??? And besides that, starve them, look into their hungry faces night after night…

    And Reina Gonzales - what a piece of shit she is. To just sit their and allow it all to happen and then do drugs to cope. I bet Christopher was quite the charmer to keep her on his side. Probably would buy her roses, leave her little love notes, was the real romantic type to keep her from going to the cops. Do I choose the most disgusting/horrifying man on the planet - Christopher Payne, or do I choose to save two little adorable kids??? Hmmmmmmmm… Tough, tough choice…

    This situation is F’d up on so many levels. The last thing I would say is Jamie Hallam must not be Mother Theresa either. Anyone who could hook up with Christopher must have more than one screw loose and CPS doesn’t investigate someone without good cause. And check her out, she won the $1,000,000 Arizona lottery! I am really happy to know where my AZ state taxes are going. I hope she finds someone better than that piece of trash the next time she breeds.

    Stay Classy Child Abusers and Starvers!

    -Ron

    P.S. - Is it just me, or does Christopher Payne bear a resemblance to the lead singer of the Bloodhound Gang - Jimmy Pop???

  38. Wonder says:

    hey Wry rudoph has same color nose as his ears ! I thought too about the gonzalez name wow… ( there tends to be alot of spainish ethic names in these threads normally )

    don’t feel bad MJK I don’t know how to do short comments lol

    WOW ! mom is getting 1 million - that buys alot of herroin. I have to agree with Scotch I am not feeling too sorry for this mom. Where is her Picture ? How many other kids does she have ? Was she paying him Child Support Regulary and on time ? you think maybe why he kept them for the checks / food stamps ?

    *** am I just not seeing it When were these kids reported missing ?
    Did the mom not have any relations with them to know they had been missing ?

    the system doesn’t take very kindly on you allowing children around someone they told you can’t see them…

    Those two are a beautiful pair… hard to believe they are any part of his. from their looks ! Was he paying her child Support and caught up when they said leave the kids there ? Did he have a 3 bdrm since they were boy and girl didnt they need separate rooms?
    I agree the system failed her to get her children back but must of been a damn good reason they said to leave them with him… I can just imagine trying to fight the cps and courts even when you know your right they are dumb founded and uncaring. Everything with them takes forever besides.

    I am a pest I would of been at the front desk every damn day until they did something ! I probably would of gotten arrested trying… without my kids I would not be able to function to do much of nothing else.

    He is scroungy yuck - looking at his picture makes me hurl puke
    I feel bad for the g/f - 22 + 22 (i think death too would be a better punishment) let that be a lesson for all women looking for a good man… be pickier and go after help for innocent kids in your care… geeesh your a fat fuck - so WHERE IS TYLER ????????

    This poor girls body all broken to bits that is beyond child abuse …
    I do understand they found one who would of thought there would be another body. Unless of course they found 3 limbs or 2 heads.

    The other tenents that lived in that apartment building should of done something they should be charged for neglect or something.

  39. Wonder says:

    awww little pic of the mom

    get this & still 22 + 22 yrs : http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/crime/244805

    click link to read full story

    Denis Keyes, an associate professor of special education at the College of Charleston in Charleston, S.C., testified he believes Gonzales is mentally retarded and therefore ineligible for the death penalty.
    His decision was based on a variety of tests conducted by other doctors and interviews he conducted with Gonzales, her mother and three former teachers.
    Keyes testified that although Gonzales reads at a seventh-grade level, she functions at a third-to-fourth grade level in most other areas. In addition, Keyes said, Gonzales has “adaptive skills deficits.”
    In order for someone to be mentally retarded, they have to have a low IQ and adaptive skills deficits. They must also have exhibited intellectual deficits before the age of 18.
    Keyes explained Gonzales has difficulty with abstract thinking, concentrating, impulsive behavior and coping. If living alone, Gonzales would have difficulty managing her money, maintaining a home and problem solving.
    Gonzales can count out $3.64 in change, but when given a $10 bill can’t make change if the item cost $3.64, Keyes said.
    “If she’s in a group of 100 people, she’ll be the lowest person in terms of functioning,” Keyes said.
    Typically, mentally retarded people such as Gonzales are people-pleasers who are gullible, naive and subject to being victimized, Keyes said.

  40. commongrackle says:

    Not only are two of her precious babies dead, but 8 days after she found out about that, CPS came and took away her other daughter, Autumn! Permanently.

  41. Ruby says:
    Not only are two of her precious babies dead, but 8 days after she found out about that, CPS came and took away her other daughter, Autumn! Permanently.

    Do you know why they took her daughter? What were the grounds? It’s unlikely/unusual to take children “permanently” — at least to announce that that is the case. Do you have any further information you can share?

  42. WryBread says:

    Could Gonzalez’ heroin use have had anything to do with her mental deficits?

  43. nadine says:

    REST IN PIECE LITTLE ANGELS, YOU ARE SAFE NOW
    MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR THE MOM, JAMIE, I AM SO SO SO SORRY THE SYSTEM DID NOT WORK FOR YOU and did not protect these two angels. I am truly sorry, i cant stop crying , this is just horrible

  44. CrazyKid says:

    god will see to it that these two pieces of crap burn n hell like they should.. they will get what they deserve in the mean time RIP to the sweet babies.. and my prayers are with the mother!

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