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Stephanie Kirkland Likes Young Pussy

August 13, 2008 at 7:56 pm by  

Update 9/30/2008 – Charges against Stephanie Kirkland have been dropped due to insufficient evidence. The decision to drop the charges was made by Aiken County Solicitor Barbara Morgan. More info at end of article.

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Aiken, SC – Stephanie Gail Kirkland, 20, enjoys the music of Ashley Tisdale and Usher, hanging out with friends, her kitten, Chipper, and having sex with a thirteen-year-old girl.  Stephanie turned herself in to the Aiken County Sheriff’s Office on Tuesday after a warrant was issued for her arrest on charges that she sexually assaulted the girl multiple times last year.

The Sheriff’s Office says that Stephanie engaged in lewd sexual contact with the thirteen-year old between May and December of 2007, and that the assaults occurred in multiple locations.  Deputies didn’t say why the charges are just now being filed. Details are being withheld, although I have no doubt that some of our readers would pay big bank to see Stephanie reenact the encounters with another girl of legal age.

Stephanie is a tiny little thing – 4’11” and just about 100 pounds.  She looks younger than her stated age.  So what’s happened here, really?  Is Stephanie a predator who likes the young stuff?  Or is there something else going on here behind the scenes?  After all, she did turn herself in to deputies.  And as of this evening, she’s out of jail on an order of release from the judge in her case.  And while charges aren’t generally filed without some evidence, Stephanie looks pretty innocent – on the surface.

Then again, it’s unusual for a young woman to molest a child, but not unheard of.  And a thirteen year old cannot give consent in South Carolina.  Surely Stephanie knew the girl’s age.  If she were a guy, no matter how cute or innocent-looking, we’d be hanging him by his balls.  So what do you think?  Did she do it, or not?

Stephanie Gail Kirkland is charged with three counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct and four counts of lewd acts on a minor.  Since she’s out of jail now, maybe she’ll come explain to us what really happened.  Maybe she did it.  Or maybe the young pussy Stephanie likes is just a kitten named Chipper.

Update 9/30/2008 - Barbara is not returning phone calls yet, but Assistant Solicitor Steve Kodman stated that multiple inconsistencies in the victim’s statements was a factor in their decision to drop the charges.

There are times where law enforcement has enough probable cause to make an arrest, but we have to be able prove it beyond a reasonable doubt to take it to court,” Kodman said.

Officials will not be charging the 13-year-old with any crime as they have stated nothing leads them to suspect the alleged victim lied about what happened. So, there you go.

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  • ScotchyScotch

    I think I saw here once in Tijuana… She was in a “young pussy” juggling contest…

  • ScotchyScotch

    I think I saw here once in Tijuana… She was in a “young pussy” juggling contest…

  • ScotchyScotch

    I think I saw here once in Tijuana… She was in a “young pussy” juggling contest…

  • bogustoo

    Her friend Candice posted this comment on Stephanie’s myspace page today:

    I will be is SC in a few weeks to take care of that shit… she better hope she is like BinLaden cuz when I c her its on…… thats bull shit… I am sooo F#*ken mad right now…. uhg

    I LOVE YOU AND NO MATTER WHAT ALWAYS WILL!!!!!!!!

  • bogustoo

    Her friend Candice posted this comment on Stephanie’s myspace page today:

    I will be is SC in a few weeks to take care of that shit… she better hope she is like BinLaden cuz when I c her its on…… thats bull shit… I am sooo F#*ken mad right now…. uhg

    I LOVE YOU AND NO MATTER WHAT ALWAYS WILL!!!!!!!!

  • bogustoo

    Her friend Candice posted this comment on Stephanie’s myspace page today:

    I will be is SC in a few weeks to take care of that shit… she better hope she is like BinLaden cuz when I c her its on…… thats bull shit… I am sooo F#*ken mad right now…. uhg

    I LOVE YOU AND NO MATTER WHAT ALWAYS WILL!!!!!!!!

  • ScotchyScotch

    So Bogustoo,

    Just to make sure I understand, this posting from one of Stephanie’s friends on her myspace page – it is basically a threat to the 13 year old girl???

    Classy in South Carolina, huh? Maybe John Edwards can help them out in that department….

  • ScotchyScotch

    So Bogustoo,

    Just to make sure I understand, this posting from one of Stephanie’s friends on her myspace page – it is basically a threat to the 13 year old girl???

    Classy in South Carolina, huh? Maybe John Edwards can help them out in that department….

  • ScotchyScotch

    So Bogustoo,

    Just to make sure I understand, this posting from one of Stephanie’s friends on her myspace page – it is basically a threat to the 13 year old girl???

    Classy in South Carolina, huh? Maybe John Edwards can help them out in that department….

  • katyk

    Then again, it’s unusual for a young woman to molest a child, but not unheard of.  And a thirteen year old cannot give consent in South Carolina.  Surely Stephanie knew the girl’s age.  If she were a guy, no matter how cute or innocent-looking, we’d be hanging him by his balls.  So what do you think?  Did she do it, or not?

    I’d hate to say she didn’t do it based on her adorable little face and love of kitties. I wouldn’t doubt it if she was guilty.

    Based on her friend’s riveting and intellectual comment, it could be some jealous girl who wants to get her in trouble for making out with the guy she likes. Or stealing her body glitter.

    I do know she needs to lay off the mascara just a bit. That stuff runs and burns your eyes.

  • katyk

    Then again, it’s unusual for a young woman to molest a child, but not unheard of.  And a thirteen year old cannot give consent in South Carolina.  Surely Stephanie knew the girl’s age.  If she were a guy, no matter how cute or innocent-looking, we’d be hanging him by his balls.  So what do you think?  Did she do it, or not?

    I’d hate to say she didn’t do it based on her adorable little face and love of kitties. I wouldn’t doubt it if she was guilty.

    Based on her friend’s riveting and intellectual comment, it could be some jealous girl who wants to get her in trouble for making out with the guy she likes. Or stealing her body glitter.

    I do know she needs to lay off the mascara just a bit. That stuff runs and burns your eyes.

  • bogustoo

    Just to make sure I understand, this posting from one of Stephanie’s friends on her myspace page – it is basically a threat to the 13 year old girl???

    Yes, that’s exactly what it is Scotch.

    The mascara may run and burn her eyes, but it does add to the whole “I’m not a day over 12″ thing she’s got going on.

  • bogustoo

    Just to make sure I understand, this posting from one of Stephanie’s friends on her myspace page – it is basically a threat to the 13 year old girl???

    Yes, that’s exactly what it is Scotch.

    The mascara may run and burn her eyes, but it does add to the whole “I’m not a day over 12″ thing she’s got going on.

  • katyk

    Then again, it’s unusual for a young woman to molest a child, but not unheard of.  And a thirteen year old cannot give consent in South Carolina.  Surely Stephanie knew the girl’s age.  If she were a guy, no matter how cute or innocent-looking, we’d be hanging him by his balls.  So what do you think?  Did she do it, or not?

    I’d hate to say she didn’t do it based on her adorable little face and love of kitties. I wouldn’t doubt it if she was guilty.

    Based on her friend’s riveting and intellectual comment, it could be some jealous girl who wants to get her in trouble for making out with the guy she likes. Or stealing her body glitter.

    I do know she needs to lay off the mascara just a bit. That stuff runs and burns your eyes.

  • bogustoo

    Just to make sure I understand, this posting from one of Stephanie’s friends on her myspace page – it is basically a threat to the 13 year old girl???

    Yes, that’s exactly what it is Scotch.

    The mascara may run and burn her eyes, but it does add to the whole “I’m not a day over 12″ thing she’s got going on.

  • Peeperann

    If she’s guilty, she should get just exactly the same punishment as a male pedophile.

    Poor little kid, not only to raped, but raped by a woman? Gonna mess her up for life…

  • Peeperann

    If she’s guilty, she should get just exactly the same punishment as a male pedophile.

    Poor little kid, not only to raped, but raped by a woman? Gonna mess her up for life…

  • Peeperann

    If she’s guilty, she should get just exactly the same punishment as a male pedophile.

    Poor little kid, not only to raped, but raped by a woman? Gonna mess her up for life…

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I wouldn’t trust anyone, over the age of 13, that listens to Ashley Tisdale.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I wouldn’t trust anyone, over the age of 13, that listens to Ashley Tisdale.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I wouldn’t trust anyone, over the age of 13, that listens to Ashley Tisdale.

  • Harley_Tech

    I wouldn’t trust anyone, over the age of 13, that listens to Ashley Tisdale.

    I have no idea who Ashley Tisdale is, but if HotMom says it, it’s good enough for me. :D

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I wouldn’t trust anyone, over the age of 13, that listens to Ashley Tisdale.

    I have no idea who Ashley Tisdale is, but if HotMom says it, it’s good enough for me. :D

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I wouldn’t trust anyone, over the age of 13, that listens to Ashley Tisdale.

    I have no idea who Ashley Tisdale is, but if HotMom says it, it’s good enough for me. :D

    R

  • ScotchyScotch

    Ashley Tisdale??? Is that like Hanna Montana??? I could google the name, but don’t want to spend the energy or waste the brain cells….

  • ScotchyScotch

    Ashley Tisdale??? Is that like Hanna Montana??? I could google the name, but don’t want to spend the energy or waste the brain cells….

  • ScotchyScotch

    Ashley Tisdale??? Is that like Hanna Montana??? I could google the name, but don’t want to spend the energy or waste the brain cells….

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I have no idea who Ashley Tisdale is, but if HotMom says it, it’s good enough for me.

    :)

    Ashley Tisdale??? Is that like Hanna Montana??? I could google the name, but don’t want to spend the energy or waste the brain cells….

    Along the same lines as Hanna….slightly more annoying. Thank GAWD my daughter is through with that phase.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I have no idea who Ashley Tisdale is, but if HotMom says it, it’s good enough for me.

    :)

    Ashley Tisdale??? Is that like Hanna Montana??? I could google the name, but don’t want to spend the energy or waste the brain cells….

    Along the same lines as Hanna….slightly more annoying. Thank GAWD my daughter is through with that phase.

  • http://www.myspace.com/justdazin So Jaded

    I have no idea who Ashley Tisdale is, but if HotMom says it, it’s good enough for me.

    :)

    Ashley Tisdale??? Is that like Hanna Montana??? I could google the name, but don’t want to spend the energy or waste the brain cells….

    Along the same lines as Hanna….slightly more annoying. Thank GAWD my daughter is through with that phase.

  • sherrz

    Classy in South Carolina, huh? Maybe John Edwards can help them out in that department….

    Ummmm John Edwards is North Carolina (as far as his elected office). Just sayin’.

    Oh, and Ashley Tisdale is one of the girls in the High School Musical movies. I can’t stand her.

  • sherrz

    Classy in South Carolina, huh? Maybe John Edwards can help them out in that department….

    Ummmm John Edwards is North Carolina (as far as his elected office). Just sayin’.

    Oh, and Ashley Tisdale is one of the girls in the High School Musical movies. I can’t stand her.

  • sherrz

    Classy in South Carolina, huh? Maybe John Edwards can help them out in that department….

    Ummmm John Edwards is North Carolina (as far as his elected office). Just sayin’.

    Oh, and Ashley Tisdale is one of the girls in the High School Musical movies. I can’t stand her.

  • ScotchyScotch

    John Edwards is from South Carolina and it is where he lived until he went to college. His mantra over the last two failed presidential elections was all about “I grew up in a middle class family in South Carolina where I learned my morals and work ethic from my daddy- blah, blah, blah…”

    Just sayin’ (man I hate that phrase… it just screams of ignorance…)

    My comment is not meant to be political. Believe me, I am no Republican… The point here is that Stephanie doesn’t appear to be very classy and is from South Carolina, and another famous person from that state has also been found to not be classy from recent events that have come to light…

  • ScotchyScotch

    John Edwards is from South Carolina and it is where he lived until he went to college. His mantra over the last two failed presidential elections was all about “I grew up in a middle class family in South Carolina where I learned my morals and work ethic from my daddy- blah, blah, blah…”

    Just sayin’ (man I hate that phrase… it just screams of ignorance…)

    My comment is not meant to be political. Believe me, I am no Republican… The point here is that Stephanie doesn’t appear to be very classy and is from South Carolina, and another famous person from that state has also been found to not be classy from recent events that have come to light…

  • ScotchyScotch

    John Edwards is from South Carolina and it is where he lived until he went to college. His mantra over the last two failed presidential elections was all about “I grew up in a middle class family in South Carolina where I learned my morals and work ethic from my daddy- blah, blah, blah…”

    Just sayin’ (man I hate that phrase… it just screams of ignorance…)

    My comment is not meant to be political. Believe me, I am no Republican… The point here is that Stephanie doesn’t appear to be very classy and is from South Carolina, and another famous person from that state has also been found to not be classy from recent events that have come to light…

  • ScotchyScotch

    Good night. And stay classy South Carolina.

    :)

  • ScotchyScotch

    Good night. And stay classy South Carolina.

    :)

  • ScotchyScotch

    Good night. And stay classy South Carolina.

    :)

  • Deety

    Oh come on. 13 may be too young to give consent in SC, but that doesn’t make what happened child molestation. Kirkland was 19, maybe 18 when this happened (and judging by her taste in music, exceptionally immature). Does anyone here doubt that the 13 year old was a willing participant? This was an ongoing thing, for the better part of a year, eight months ago. This girl is not a pedo. The “victim” is now mad at Kirkland for some teenage reason, and is using the law to get revenge.

    This “victim” makes it harder for true victims to be taken seriously, clogs up our judicial system, and takes resources away from those who could really use them.

    The next time some 47 year old man who raped a ten year old is let out of prison early, sleep easy, because Stephanie Kirkland, the dangerous child molester, is behind bars.

  • Deety

    Oh come on. 13 may be too young to give consent in SC, but that doesn’t make what happened child molestation. Kirkland was 19, maybe 18 when this happened (and judging by her taste in music, exceptionally immature). Does anyone here doubt that the 13 year old was a willing participant? This was an ongoing thing, for the better part of a year, eight months ago. This girl is not a pedo. The “victim” is now mad at Kirkland for some teenage reason, and is using the law to get revenge.

    This “victim” makes it harder for true victims to be taken seriously, clogs up our judicial system, and takes resources away from those who could really use them.

    The next time some 47 year old man who raped a ten year old is let out of prison early, sleep easy, because Stephanie Kirkland, the dangerous child molester, is behind bars.

  • Deety

    Oh come on. 13 may be too young to give consent in SC, but that doesn’t make what happened child molestation. Kirkland was 19, maybe 18 when this happened (and judging by her taste in music, exceptionally immature). Does anyone here doubt that the 13 year old was a willing participant? This was an ongoing thing, for the better part of a year, eight months ago. This girl is not a pedo. The “victim” is now mad at Kirkland for some teenage reason, and is using the law to get revenge.

    This “victim” makes it harder for true victims to be taken seriously, clogs up our judicial system, and takes resources away from those who could really use them.

    The next time some 47 year old man who raped a ten year old is let out of prison early, sleep easy, because Stephanie Kirkland, the dangerous child molester, is behind bars.

  • CassieLovejoy

    Uh….my eyebrows just raised so high they are no longer attached to my head.

    Please keep us updated, Morbid!

  • CassieLovejoy

    Uh….my eyebrows just raised so high they are no longer attached to my head.

    Please keep us updated, Morbid!

  • CassieLovejoy

    Uh….my eyebrows just raised so high they are no longer attached to my head.

    Please keep us updated, Morbid!

  • ScotchyScotch

    Deety,

    I just woke up again. :)

    You raise some good points. What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    If an 18 year old boy was screwing around with a 13 year old girl, is that molestation? I think we all know the answer to that as there are plenty of young men in prison for molestation from these types of relationships.

    Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?

    I think in the eyes of the law, which is a reflection of the societal values of the majority of us all, the answer is no.

    But I hear you and think you make a solid argument that should be considered in this case…

  • ScotchyScotch

    Deety,

    I just woke up again. :)

    You raise some good points. What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    If an 18 year old boy was screwing around with a 13 year old girl, is that molestation? I think we all know the answer to that as there are plenty of young men in prison for molestation from these types of relationships.

    Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?

    I think in the eyes of the law, which is a reflection of the societal values of the majority of us all, the answer is no.

    But I hear you and think you make a solid argument that should be considered in this case…

  • ScotchyScotch

    Deety,

    I just woke up again. :)

    You raise some good points. What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    If an 18 year old boy was screwing around with a 13 year old girl, is that molestation? I think we all know the answer to that as there are plenty of young men in prison for molestation from these types of relationships.

    Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?

    I think in the eyes of the law, which is a reflection of the societal values of the majority of us all, the answer is no.

    But I hear you and think you make a solid argument that should be considered in this case…

  • dammitall

    Some male predators are small-statured and childlike, and use that to get closer to their prey. I think Stephanie’s making the most of her appearance, she’s using it.

    A 19-yr-old guy having sex with a 13-yr-old girl is a creep. I think Stephanie is, too.

  • dammitall

    Some male predators are small-statured and childlike, and use that to get closer to their prey. I think Stephanie’s making the most of her appearance, she’s using it.

    A 19-yr-old guy having sex with a 13-yr-old girl is a creep. I think Stephanie is, too.

  • dammitall

    Some male predators are small-statured and childlike, and use that to get closer to their prey. I think Stephanie’s making the most of her appearance, she’s using it.

    A 19-yr-old guy having sex with a 13-yr-old girl is a creep. I think Stephanie is, too.

  • missanthropic

    What normal 20 year old would want to hang out around a 13 year old? Shouldn’t you be out trying to get into bars with your fake ID or at a frat party or something? So, that being said, I do not think she was hanging with this girl for conversation.

    Guilty or not, I’m hoping that tomorrow I will open up this comment box to the sweet sight of Stephy’s friends tardily defending her.

    Maybe even Steph herself.
    pssssst, here Stephy, Stephy, Stephy…

    Oh yeah. Candice, I love the very public threat you made against a 13 year old. That’ll get you places in life.

  • missanthropic

    What normal 20 year old would want to hang out around a 13 year old? Shouldn’t you be out trying to get into bars with your fake ID or at a frat party or something? So, that being said, I do not think she was hanging with this girl for conversation.

    Guilty or not, I’m hoping that tomorrow I will open up this comment box to the sweet sight of Stephy’s friends tardily defending her.

    Maybe even Steph herself.
    pssssst, here Stephy, Stephy, Stephy…

    Oh yeah. Candice, I love the very public threat you made against a 13 year old. That’ll get you places in life.

  • missanthropic

    What normal 20 year old would want to hang out around a 13 year old? Shouldn’t you be out trying to get into bars with your fake ID or at a frat party or something? So, that being said, I do not think she was hanging with this girl for conversation.

    Guilty or not, I’m hoping that tomorrow I will open up this comment box to the sweet sight of Stephy’s friends tardily defending her.

    Maybe even Steph herself.
    pssssst, here Stephy, Stephy, Stephy…

    Oh yeah. Candice, I love the very public threat you made against a 13 year old. That’ll get you places in life.

  • missanthropic

    Wait, let me save them some time.

    U ppl dun even no her so STFU

  • missanthropic

    Wait, let me save them some time.

    U ppl dun even no her so STFU

  • missanthropic

    Wait, let me save them some time.

    U ppl dun even no her so STFU

  • Deety

    Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later. And you have to learn that you are responsible for your own bad decisions- you can’t lay all the blame on someone else because you’re just some weak, innocent little victim. If you never learn to accept responsibility for the stupid things you’ve done, you’ll never be capable of making sensible decisions. It will always be someone else’s fault.
    That said, I don’t think the 13 year old in this case later regretted boinking Kirkland, she just got mad about something and decided that even though she was perfectly able to make the decision to sleep with Kirkland then, now she wanted Kirkland to be punished. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    There isn’t a solid number. Some 13 year olds will pursue much older partners. Some 13 year olds can be taken advantage of by 15 year olds. Unfortunately, there is no age at which all of the population will be unable to be victimized, and everyone reaches sexual maturity at different points. But you can’t arrest everyone that you feel is taking advantage of someone else. When a 40 year old hooks up with an 18 year old, should that be considered perfectly fine, just because someone has passed that magical number?

  • Deety

    Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later. And you have to learn that you are responsible for your own bad decisions- you can’t lay all the blame on someone else because you’re just some weak, innocent little victim. If you never learn to accept responsibility for the stupid things you’ve done, you’ll never be capable of making sensible decisions. It will always be someone else’s fault.
    That said, I don’t think the 13 year old in this case later regretted boinking Kirkland, she just got mad about something and decided that even though she was perfectly able to make the decision to sleep with Kirkland then, now she wanted Kirkland to be punished. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    There isn’t a solid number. Some 13 year olds will pursue much older partners. Some 13 year olds can be taken advantage of by 15 year olds. Unfortunately, there is no age at which all of the population will be unable to be victimized, and everyone reaches sexual maturity at different points. But you can’t arrest everyone that you feel is taking advantage of someone else. When a 40 year old hooks up with an 18 year old, should that be considered perfectly fine, just because someone has passed that magical number?

  • Deety

    Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later. And you have to learn that you are responsible for your own bad decisions- you can’t lay all the blame on someone else because you’re just some weak, innocent little victim. If you never learn to accept responsibility for the stupid things you’ve done, you’ll never be capable of making sensible decisions. It will always be someone else’s fault.
    That said, I don’t think the 13 year old in this case later regretted boinking Kirkland, she just got mad about something and decided that even though she was perfectly able to make the decision to sleep with Kirkland then, now she wanted Kirkland to be punished. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    There isn’t a solid number. Some 13 year olds will pursue much older partners. Some 13 year olds can be taken advantage of by 15 year olds. Unfortunately, there is no age at which all of the population will be unable to be victimized, and everyone reaches sexual maturity at different points. But you can’t arrest everyone that you feel is taking advantage of someone else. When a 40 year old hooks up with an 18 year old, should that be considered perfectly fine, just because someone has passed that magical number?

  • WryBread

    U ppl dun even no her so STFU

    That’s it, isn’t it? You just left out “fucking,” the all-purpose intensifier and sophiscatizer word in teen and tard eyes:

    “U fucking ppl fucking dun even fucking no her so fucking STFU.”

  • WryBread

    U ppl dun even no her so STFU

    That’s it, isn’t it? You just left out “fucking,” the all-purpose intensifier and sophiscatizer word in teen and tard eyes:

    “U fucking ppl fucking dun even fucking no her so fucking STFU.”

  • WryBread

    U ppl dun even no her so STFU

    That’s it, isn’t it? You just left out “fucking,” the all-purpose intensifier and sophiscatizer word in teen and tard eyes:

    “U fucking ppl fucking dun even fucking no her so fucking STFU.”

  • ScotchyScotch

    That said, I don’t think the 13 year old in this case later regretted boinking Kirkland, she just got mad about something and decided that even though she was perfectly able to make the decision to sleep with Kirkland then, now she wanted Kirkland to be punished. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    I am not so sure. She may have come to the conclusion after some time that she made a big mistake being in a sexual relationship with her. Maybe other guys she knew and/or family members caught on to their relationship, she was confused and then she came to the realization that the whole thing wasn’t something she wanted or was proud of.

    I know a couple of women friends who had a lesbian experience in their childhood, (I have seen survey statistics that indicate that >30% of women have had at least one experience of this type in their lives – like kissing a girl, to groping to more), and both have said that they are creeped-out and embarassed that it happened. They were young, impressionable and wanted to be popular.

    I think what I wrote above is equally as plausible as your “she just got mad about something…”, and if what I wrote is true – she just might not feel that bad about labeling her a sex offender if she truly preyed on her for the relationship to happen and continue.

    You and I have no idea what truly happened – hopefully the courts will sort it out…

  • ScotchyScotch

    That said, I don’t think the 13 year old in this case later regretted boinking Kirkland, she just got mad about something and decided that even though she was perfectly able to make the decision to sleep with Kirkland then, now she wanted Kirkland to be punished. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    I am not so sure. She may have come to the conclusion after some time that she made a big mistake being in a sexual relationship with her. Maybe other guys she knew and/or family members caught on to their relationship, she was confused and then she came to the realization that the whole thing wasn’t something she wanted or was proud of.

    I know a couple of women friends who had a lesbian experience in their childhood, (I have seen survey statistics that indicate that >30% of women have had at least one experience of this type in their lives – like kissing a girl, to groping to more), and both have said that they are creeped-out and embarassed that it happened. They were young, impressionable and wanted to be popular.

    I think what I wrote above is equally as plausible as your “she just got mad about something…”, and if what I wrote is true – she just might not feel that bad about labeling her a sex offender if she truly preyed on her for the relationship to happen and continue.

    You and I have no idea what truly happened – hopefully the courts will sort it out…

  • ScotchyScotch

    That said, I don’t think the 13 year old in this case later regretted boinking Kirkland, she just got mad about something and decided that even though she was perfectly able to make the decision to sleep with Kirkland then, now she wanted Kirkland to be punished. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    I am not so sure. She may have come to the conclusion after some time that she made a big mistake being in a sexual relationship with her. Maybe other guys she knew and/or family members caught on to their relationship, she was confused and then she came to the realization that the whole thing wasn’t something she wanted or was proud of.

    I know a couple of women friends who had a lesbian experience in their childhood, (I have seen survey statistics that indicate that >30% of women have had at least one experience of this type in their lives – like kissing a girl, to groping to more), and both have said that they are creeped-out and embarassed that it happened. They were young, impressionable and wanted to be popular.

    I think what I wrote above is equally as plausible as your “she just got mad about something…”, and if what I wrote is true – she just might not feel that bad about labeling her a sex offender if she truly preyed on her for the relationship to happen and continue.

    You and I have no idea what truly happened – hopefully the courts will sort it out…

  • michelle

    Maybe Stephanie gave good head. Purrrrr, kitty kitty. Hard to give that up.
    Seriously though, 18 and 13. That really is pushin the line.

  • michelle

    Maybe Stephanie gave good head. Purrrrr, kitty kitty. Hard to give that up.
    Seriously though, 18 and 13. That really is pushin the line.

  • michelle

    Maybe Stephanie gave good head. Purrrrr, kitty kitty. Hard to give that up.
    Seriously though, 18 and 13. That really is pushin the line.

  • Veronica

    I know a couple of women friends who had a lesbian experience in their childhood, (I have seen survey statistics that indicate that >30% of women have had at least one experience of this type in their lives – like kissing a girl, to groping to more), and both have said that they are creeped-out and embarassed that it happened. They were young, impressionable and wanted to be popular.

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

  • Veronica

    I know a couple of women friends who had a lesbian experience in their childhood, (I have seen survey statistics that indicate that >30% of women have had at least one experience of this type in their lives – like kissing a girl, to groping to more), and both have said that they are creeped-out and embarassed that it happened. They were young, impressionable and wanted to be popular.

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

  • Veronica

    I know a couple of women friends who had a lesbian experience in their childhood, (I have seen survey statistics that indicate that >30% of women have had at least one experience of this type in their lives – like kissing a girl, to groping to more), and both have said that they are creeped-out and embarassed that it happened. They were young, impressionable and wanted to be popular.

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later…. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    If Stephanie boinked the thirteen year old from May to December 2007, she was at least 18 at the beginning, but then turned 19, when it happened. Repeatedly. Over months, in multiple locations.

    She knew how old the girl was, I’m sure. And she knew, because virtually every girl knows, what the age of consent was in her state. So just because the 13 year old might have liked it at first, or might have been a consenting partner, does not make this legal or okay in any fashion.

    There is a ginormous difference between 13 and 19, maturity-wise. If a young man already out of high school was doing your seventh or eighth grader, you’d be pressing charges regardless of her consent – I would hope. I really don’t see how this is different.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later…. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    If Stephanie boinked the thirteen year old from May to December 2007, she was at least 18 at the beginning, but then turned 19, when it happened. Repeatedly. Over months, in multiple locations.

    She knew how old the girl was, I’m sure. And she knew, because virtually every girl knows, what the age of consent was in her state. So just because the 13 year old might have liked it at first, or might have been a consenting partner, does not make this legal or okay in any fashion.

    There is a ginormous difference between 13 and 19, maturity-wise. If a young man already out of high school was doing your seventh or eighth grader, you’d be pressing charges regardless of her consent – I would hope. I really don’t see how this is different.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later…. I don’t think slutty 13 year olds should have the power to ruin someone’s life because they’re having a teenage temper tantrum. And I bet when she reaches a rational age, she’ll feel terrible about having Kirkland labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life.

    If Stephanie boinked the thirteen year old from May to December 2007, she was at least 18 at the beginning, but then turned 19, when it happened. Repeatedly. Over months, in multiple locations.

    She knew how old the girl was, I’m sure. And she knew, because virtually every girl knows, what the age of consent was in her state. So just because the 13 year old might have liked it at first, or might have been a consenting partner, does not make this legal or okay in any fashion.

    There is a ginormous difference between 13 and 19, maturity-wise. If a young man already out of high school was doing your seventh or eighth grader, you’d be pressing charges regardless of her consent – I would hope. I really don’t see how this is different.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

    But if you’re in junior high and some graduated senior who’s popular and a former cheerleader says that this is what all the cool older girls are doing….. see? It wouldn’t be that tough to coerce a little girl with stars in her eyes who wants to be able to tell her friends that she’s in tight with Stephanie, who “ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OMGWTFBBQ!!!1″, right?

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

    But if you’re in junior high and some graduated senior who’s popular and a former cheerleader says that this is what all the cool older girls are doing….. see? It wouldn’t be that tough to coerce a little girl with stars in her eyes who wants to be able to tell her friends that she’s in tight with Stephanie, who “ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OMGWTFBBQ!!!1″, right?

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

    But if you’re in junior high and some graduated senior who’s popular and a former cheerleader says that this is what all the cool older girls are doing….. see? It wouldn’t be that tough to coerce a little girl with stars in her eyes who wants to be able to tell her friends that she’s in tight with Stephanie, who “ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OMGWTFBBQ!!!1″, right?

  • Boondock

    What kind of pixie dust was this chick sprinkled with? No way does she look 20. She barely looks like she’s in double digits! I kept thinking that it was really odd that the DD posted a pic of an underage victim…

    That said, I agree with Imp. If this were a guy, I doubt you would find many people (if any) defending him. The thought of a 7th or 8th grader having sex with someone their own age grosses me out, let alone having sex with someone already graduated from high school.

  • Boondock

    What kind of pixie dust was this chick sprinkled with? No way does she look 20. She barely looks like she’s in double digits! I kept thinking that it was really odd that the DD posted a pic of an underage victim…

    That said, I agree with Imp. If this were a guy, I doubt you would find many people (if any) defending him. The thought of a 7th or 8th grader having sex with someone their own age grosses me out, let alone having sex with someone already graduated from high school.

  • Boondock

    What kind of pixie dust was this chick sprinkled with? No way does she look 20. She barely looks like she’s in double digits! I kept thinking that it was really odd that the DD posted a pic of an underage victim…

    That said, I agree with Imp. If this were a guy, I doubt you would find many people (if any) defending him. The thought of a 7th or 8th grader having sex with someone their own age grosses me out, let alone having sex with someone already graduated from high school.

  • prettyuglyish

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I have a hard time with this story. There is part of me that wants to say, “Crucify her. The girl was only 13.” But when I was 13, I was living on the streets and my survival instinct kicked in (along with buttloads of drugs and alcohol). Most of the people I hung out with were over 17…a lot of them took advantage of me, but I took advantage of my share, too. I might not have been able to legally consent to anything, but in my mind I knew damn well what I was doing – good decisions or bad, fully-developed critical thinking skills or not.

    I have extremely mixed emotions about this case due to my own fucked up experiences. My verdict is still out.

  • prettyuglyish

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I have a hard time with this story. There is part of me that wants to say, “Crucify her. The girl was only 13.” But when I was 13, I was living on the streets and my survival instinct kicked in (along with buttloads of drugs and alcohol). Most of the people I hung out with were over 17…a lot of them took advantage of me, but I took advantage of my share, too. I might not have been able to legally consent to anything, but in my mind I knew damn well what I was doing – good decisions or bad, fully-developed critical thinking skills or not.

    I have extremely mixed emotions about this case due to my own fucked up experiences. My verdict is still out.

  • prettyuglyish

    Uh, I don’t know where you went to high school Scotchy, but at mine experiencing with lesbianism was NOT the way to become popular, it was the way to secure your place in the outcast “goth” clique. Where did you grow up, Spring Break? LOL.

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I have a hard time with this story. There is part of me that wants to say, “Crucify her. The girl was only 13.” But when I was 13, I was living on the streets and my survival instinct kicked in (along with buttloads of drugs and alcohol). Most of the people I hung out with were over 17…a lot of them took advantage of me, but I took advantage of my share, too. I might not have been able to legally consent to anything, but in my mind I knew damn well what I was doing – good decisions or bad, fully-developed critical thinking skills or not.

    I have extremely mixed emotions about this case due to my own fucked up experiences. My verdict is still out.

  • Max The Cat

    What kind of pixie dust was this chick sprinkled with? No way does she look 20. She barely looks like she’s in double digits!

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.
    http://media.nbcaugusta.com/images/wagt_stephanie_kirkland.jpg

  • Max The Cat

    What kind of pixie dust was this chick sprinkled with? No way does she look 20. She barely looks like she’s in double digits!

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.
    http://media.nbcaugusta.com/images/wagt_stephanie_kirkland.jpg

  • Max The Cat

    What kind of pixie dust was this chick sprinkled with? No way does she look 20. She barely looks like she’s in double digits!

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.
    http://media.nbcaugusta.com/images/wagt_stephanie_kirkland.jpg

  • bogustoo

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later. And you have to learn that you are responsible for your own bad decisions- you can’t lay all the blame on someone else because you’re just some weak, innocent little victim. If you never learn to accept responsibility for the stupid things you’ve done, you’ll never be capable of making sensible decisions. It will always be someone else’s fault.

    So, then Stephanie shouldn’t be held responsible for HER poor decisions? SHE CHOSE to have a lesbian affair with a 13 year old girl, knowing that it was illegal. That makes Stephanie’s poor decision worse than the victim’s.

    Stephanie is the one that needs to accept responsibility for her “poor decisions”. Rather, for her CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. Stephanie was supposed to be the adult.

  • bogustoo

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later. And you have to learn that you are responsible for your own bad decisions- you can’t lay all the blame on someone else because you’re just some weak, innocent little victim. If you never learn to accept responsibility for the stupid things you’ve done, you’ll never be capable of making sensible decisions. It will always be someone else’s fault.

    So, then Stephanie shouldn’t be held responsible for HER poor decisions? SHE CHOSE to have a lesbian affair with a 13 year old girl, knowing that it was illegal. That makes Stephanie’s poor decision worse than the victim’s.

    Stephanie is the one that needs to accept responsibility for her “poor decisions”. Rather, for her CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. Stephanie was supposed to be the adult.

  • bogustoo

    No, 13 year olds aren’t capable of sensible decisions at all. But at some point you have to learn that making bad decisions sucks, and that you might regret them later. And you have to learn that you are responsible for your own bad decisions- you can’t lay all the blame on someone else because you’re just some weak, innocent little victim. If you never learn to accept responsibility for the stupid things you’ve done, you’ll never be capable of making sensible decisions. It will always be someone else’s fault.

    So, then Stephanie shouldn’t be held responsible for HER poor decisions? SHE CHOSE to have a lesbian affair with a 13 year old girl, knowing that it was illegal. That makes Stephanie’s poor decision worse than the victim’s.

    Stephanie is the one that needs to accept responsibility for her “poor decisions”. Rather, for her CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. Stephanie was supposed to be the adult.

  • Kathy

    Ok, I’m in a bit late on this.

    The age of consent for females in SC is 14, as long as the partner is no older than 18…with a few exceptions here and there. SO we are probably talking MONTHS as far as her breaking the law or not. Either way, she broke the law, so off to jail with her dumb ass.

    I know exactly who Ashley Tisdale is because my daughter loves her, BUT she is 6. This leads me to believe this girl might also be socially retarded. I fully expect my girl child to be tired of Ashely Tisdale and her HSM backpack somewhere towards the end of first grade.

    And for the record, I am in SC and I am one classy bitch. Don’t. Hate.

  • Kathy

    Ok, I’m in a bit late on this.

    The age of consent for females in SC is 14, as long as the partner is no older than 18…with a few exceptions here and there. SO we are probably talking MONTHS as far as her breaking the law or not. Either way, she broke the law, so off to jail with her dumb ass.

    I know exactly who Ashley Tisdale is because my daughter loves her, BUT she is 6. This leads me to believe this girl might also be socially retarded. I fully expect my girl child to be tired of Ashely Tisdale and her HSM backpack somewhere towards the end of first grade.

    And for the record, I am in SC and I am one classy bitch. Don’t. Hate.

  • Kathy

    Ok, I’m in a bit late on this.

    The age of consent for females in SC is 14, as long as the partner is no older than 18…with a few exceptions here and there. SO we are probably talking MONTHS as far as her breaking the law or not. Either way, she broke the law, so off to jail with her dumb ass.

    I know exactly who Ashley Tisdale is because my daughter loves her, BUT she is 6. This leads me to believe this girl might also be socially retarded. I fully expect my girl child to be tired of Ashely Tisdale and her HSM backpack somewhere towards the end of first grade.

    And for the record, I am in SC and I am one classy bitch. Don’t. Hate.

  • Boondock

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    Thanks. I feel a bit better, she definitely looks closer to 20 in that pic.

  • Boondock

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    Thanks. I feel a bit better, she definitely looks closer to 20 in that pic.

  • Boondock

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    Thanks. I feel a bit better, she definitely looks closer to 20 in that pic.

  • sarabei

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close for this “victim” to not have consented and it went on for too long. Had it been a 28, thirty year old….yeah…but this girl is still a kid herself…..I seriously doubt she actually did anything with this girl, I think more than likely this girl got mad for some reason and lied about this girl….and if that IS the case this girl’s life is marked from here on out….what should be done to the 13 year old if it is proven she lied? Will SHE be victimized the rest of HER life because of a false allegation? No, she will prance merrily on her way; while HER victim bears the burden of this accusations from here on out.

    IF the sex did occur, this girl doesn’t deserve jail time. I have real issues with the statutory rape laws. Honestly kids today grow up MUCH faster than we would like and are exposed to sex, etc. much more than in bygone eras. At 13 I knew all about sex, what it involved and the consequences of said actions. I CHOSE to not have sex til I was 15…big whoop de doo. Had I done it at 13 it would have been no different….I KNEW what I was doing…that is the point.

    I don’t see crucifying this girl and downing her when we know nothing about the so called victim in the case….I am not buying it at this point.

  • sarabei

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close for this “victim” to not have consented and it went on for too long. Had it been a 28, thirty year old….yeah…but this girl is still a kid herself…..I seriously doubt she actually did anything with this girl, I think more than likely this girl got mad for some reason and lied about this girl….and if that IS the case this girl’s life is marked from here on out….what should be done to the 13 year old if it is proven she lied? Will SHE be victimized the rest of HER life because of a false allegation? No, she will prance merrily on her way; while HER victim bears the burden of this accusations from here on out.

    IF the sex did occur, this girl doesn’t deserve jail time. I have real issues with the statutory rape laws. Honestly kids today grow up MUCH faster than we would like and are exposed to sex, etc. much more than in bygone eras. At 13 I knew all about sex, what it involved and the consequences of said actions. I CHOSE to not have sex til I was 15…big whoop de doo. Had I done it at 13 it would have been no different….I KNEW what I was doing…that is the point.

    I don’t see crucifying this girl and downing her when we know nothing about the so called victim in the case….I am not buying it at this point.

  • sarabei

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close for this “victim” to not have consented and it went on for too long. Had it been a 28, thirty year old….yeah…but this girl is still a kid herself…..I seriously doubt she actually did anything with this girl, I think more than likely this girl got mad for some reason and lied about this girl….and if that IS the case this girl’s life is marked from here on out….what should be done to the 13 year old if it is proven she lied? Will SHE be victimized the rest of HER life because of a false allegation? No, she will prance merrily on her way; while HER victim bears the burden of this accusations from here on out.

    IF the sex did occur, this girl doesn’t deserve jail time. I have real issues with the statutory rape laws. Honestly kids today grow up MUCH faster than we would like and are exposed to sex, etc. much more than in bygone eras. At 13 I knew all about sex, what it involved and the consequences of said actions. I CHOSE to not have sex til I was 15…big whoop de doo. Had I done it at 13 it would have been no different….I KNEW what I was doing…that is the point.

    I don’t see crucifying this girl and downing her when we know nothing about the so called victim in the case….I am not buying it at this point.

  • SoUncool

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    OMG! She so totally looks like Ashley Tisdale, OMG! http://www.ashleytisdale.com/

    I think there’s more to this story than we are hearing. Seems like revenge is involved…

  • SoUncool

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    OMG! She so totally looks like Ashley Tisdale, OMG! http://www.ashleytisdale.com/

    I think there’s more to this story than we are hearing. Seems like revenge is involved…

  • SoUncool

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    OMG! She so totally looks like Ashley Tisdale, OMG! http://www.ashleytisdale.com/

    I think there’s more to this story than we are hearing. Seems like revenge is involved…

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    ********APPLAUSE******* Saraebi!
    I totally agree. Something stinks here and I don’t think it’s the cute little pussy (in the photo).
    After wrapping Christmas gifts 2 years ago with four 14 yr old girls, I became “enlightened”. Not ONE of those young ladies had not had at least one sexual encounter. THESE WERE FRICKIN’ BABIES in my eyes!!!! They talked openly and honestly while we were wrapping and I’m telling you, it was mind blowing!
    Hell, when I was that age my mom had just let me start riding my bike on the street any my major concern was the latest Tiger Beat mag may sell out before I got my 2.00 allowance. And shit, Donny Osmond may be the pull out poster!!!

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    ********APPLAUSE******* Saraebi!
    I totally agree. Something stinks here and I don’t think it’s the cute little pussy (in the photo).
    After wrapping Christmas gifts 2 years ago with four 14 yr old girls, I became “enlightened”. Not ONE of those young ladies had not had at least one sexual encounter. THESE WERE FRICKIN’ BABIES in my eyes!!!! They talked openly and honestly while we were wrapping and I’m telling you, it was mind blowing!
    Hell, when I was that age my mom had just let me start riding my bike on the street any my major concern was the latest Tiger Beat mag may sell out before I got my 2.00 allowance. And shit, Donny Osmond may be the pull out poster!!!

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    ********APPLAUSE******* Saraebi!
    I totally agree. Something stinks here and I don’t think it’s the cute little pussy (in the photo).
    After wrapping Christmas gifts 2 years ago with four 14 yr old girls, I became “enlightened”. Not ONE of those young ladies had not had at least one sexual encounter. THESE WERE FRICKIN’ BABIES in my eyes!!!! They talked openly and honestly while we were wrapping and I’m telling you, it was mind blowing!
    Hell, when I was that age my mom had just let me start riding my bike on the street any my major concern was the latest Tiger Beat mag may sell out before I got my 2.00 allowance. And shit, Donny Osmond may be the pull out poster!!!

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Had this been a 20-year-old man licking the cootch of a 13-year-old girl, or heaven forbid, blowing a 13-year-old boy, the responses to this story would look a lot different.

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger malesfemales than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Had this been a 20-year-old man licking the cootch of a 13-year-old girl, or heaven forbid, blowing a 13-year-old boy, the responses to this story would look a lot different.

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger malesfemales than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

  • SoUncool

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    OMG! She so totally looks like Ashley Tisdale! OMG! http://www.ashleytisdale.com/

    I think there’s more to the story than we are hearing. Jealousy? Revenge? Something more happened for sure.

  • SoUncool

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    OMG! She so totally looks like Ashley Tisdale! OMG! http://www.ashleytisdale.com/

    I think there’s more to the story than we are hearing. Jealousy? Revenge? Something more happened for sure.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Had this been a 20-year-old man licking the cootch of a 13-year-old girl, or heaven forbid, blowing a 13-year-old boy, the responses to this story would look a lot different.

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger males\females than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

  • SoUncool

    Here’s link to another picture of Stephy…she looks plenty old here.http://media.nbcaugusta.com/im…..rkland.jpg

    OMG! She so totally looks like Ashley Tisdale! OMG! http://www.ashleytisdale.com/

    I think there’s more to the story than we are hearing. Jealousy? Revenge? Something more happened for sure.

  • sarabei

    Had this been a 20-year-old man licking the cootch of a 13-year-old girl, or heaven forbid, blowing a 13-year-old boy, the responses to this story would look a lot different.

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger malesfemales than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk. But a 20 year old, is still too close to a teen imo, I don’t have a double standard in cases like this, I have problems with the whole they didn’t know what they were doing….that is bull. They KNOW very well what is going down unless they are restrained and forced. Too many times kids can take the law and twist it to their advantage…look at the kids who call 911 or threaten their parents with it to avoid much deserved discipline?? I was 15 and my BF was 23. He did NOT molest me, I was more than willing and KNEW what I was doing. He wasn’t a pedophile either. However, I could have gotten pissed at him and accused him and he WOULD have gone to jail, now THERE is your double standard imo. Most young girls 13 and up know the score and LOOK the part as well, being fully developed.

    By no means do I support true molesters, etc.; however before someone has to bear that stigma for the rest of their life, let’s be sure it is actually deserved.

  • sarabei

    Had this been a 20-year-old man licking the cootch of a 13-year-old girl, or heaven forbid, blowing a 13-year-old boy, the responses to this story would look a lot different.

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger malesfemales than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk. But a 20 year old, is still too close to a teen imo, I don’t have a double standard in cases like this, I have problems with the whole they didn’t know what they were doing….that is bull. They KNOW very well what is going down unless they are restrained and forced. Too many times kids can take the law and twist it to their advantage…look at the kids who call 911 or threaten their parents with it to avoid much deserved discipline?? I was 15 and my BF was 23. He did NOT molest me, I was more than willing and KNEW what I was doing. He wasn’t a pedophile either. However, I could have gotten pissed at him and accused him and he WOULD have gone to jail, now THERE is your double standard imo. Most young girls 13 and up know the score and LOOK the part as well, being fully developed.

    By no means do I support true molesters, etc.; however before someone has to bear that stigma for the rest of their life, let’s be sure it is actually deserved.

  • sarabei

    Had this been a 20-year-old man licking the cootch of a 13-year-old girl, or heaven forbid, blowing a 13-year-old boy, the responses to this story would look a lot different.

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger males\females than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk. But a 20 year old, is still too close to a teen imo, I don’t have a double standard in cases like this, I have problems with the whole they didn’t know what they were doing….that is bull. They KNOW very well what is going down unless they are restrained and forced. Too many times kids can take the law and twist it to their advantage…look at the kids who call 911 or threaten their parents with it to avoid much deserved discipline?? I was 15 and my BF was 23. He did NOT molest me, I was more than willing and KNEW what I was doing. He wasn’t a pedophile either. However, I could have gotten pissed at him and accused him and he WOULD have gone to jail, now THERE is your double standard imo. Most young girls 13 and up know the score and LOOK the part as well, being fully developed.

    By no means do I support true molesters, etc.; however before someone has to bear that stigma for the rest of their life, let’s be sure it is actually deserved.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I seriously doubt she actually did anything with this girl, I think more than likely this girl got mad for some reason and lied about this girl….and if that IS the case this girl’s life is marked from here on out….what should be done to the 13 year old if it is proven she lied? Will SHE be victimized the rest of HER life because of a false allegation? No, she will prance merrily on her way; while HER victim bears the burden of this accusations from here on out.

    Oh, if Stephanie does turn out to be innocent – and I do think that is a possibility, hence the way my article was written – I will do the same thing I do any other time that happens here, and update the article with the information.

    And in that case, yes, I do think a lying accuser of any age should be punished severely and publicly.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I seriously doubt she actually did anything with this girl, I think more than likely this girl got mad for some reason and lied about this girl….and if that IS the case this girl’s life is marked from here on out….what should be done to the 13 year old if it is proven she lied? Will SHE be victimized the rest of HER life because of a false allegation? No, she will prance merrily on her way; while HER victim bears the burden of this accusations from here on out.

    Oh, if Stephanie does turn out to be innocent – and I do think that is a possibility, hence the way my article was written – I will do the same thing I do any other time that happens here, and update the article with the information.

    And in that case, yes, I do think a lying accuser of any age should be punished severely and publicly.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    I seriously doubt she actually did anything with this girl, I think more than likely this girl got mad for some reason and lied about this girl….and if that IS the case this girl’s life is marked from here on out….what should be done to the 13 year old if it is proven she lied? Will SHE be victimized the rest of HER life because of a false allegation? No, she will prance merrily on her way; while HER victim bears the burden of this accusations from here on out.

    Oh, if Stephanie does turn out to be innocent – and I do think that is a possibility, hence the way my article was written – I will do the same thing I do any other time that happens here, and update the article with the information.

    And in that case, yes, I do think a lying accuser of any age should be punished severely and publicly.

  • Kathy

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

    Yep. She broke the law so she should suffer the consequences including jailtime. However, I doubt that she will because there IS that double standard. As archaic as the laws in SC are, they will have a hard time believing that a female can “rape” another female. Especially a halfway decent looking one.

    Just because someone has knowledge beyond their years as far as sex goes, it does not give someone the right to break the law. Its akin to saying a rape victim asked for it because she was wearing a short skirt.

    But I must STRESS, a 20 year old who likes Ashley Tisdale is definitely delayed in some way. Either she likes Ashley Tisdale because she has the mind of a 13 year old, OR she likes her because she is a predator that likes 13 year olds. Kind of lik a bizarro world version of that 30 something year old juggalo featured not too long ago.

  • Kathy

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

    Yep. She broke the law so she should suffer the consequences including jailtime. However, I doubt that she will because there IS that double standard. As archaic as the laws in SC are, they will have a hard time believing that a female can “rape” another female. Especially a halfway decent looking one.

    Just because someone has knowledge beyond their years as far as sex goes, it does not give someone the right to break the law. Its akin to saying a rape victim asked for it because she was wearing a short skirt.

    But I must STRESS, a 20 year old who likes Ashley Tisdale is definitely delayed in some way. Either she likes Ashley Tisdale because she has the mind of a 13 year old, OR she likes her because she is a predator that likes 13 year olds. Kind of lik a bizarro world version of that 30 something year old juggalo featured not too long ago.

  • Kathy

    She is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. Surely not on the level of a 13-year-old girl, no matter if the alleged acts were consensual or not.

    Yep. She broke the law so she should suffer the consequences including jailtime. However, I doubt that she will because there IS that double standard. As archaic as the laws in SC are, they will have a hard time believing that a female can “rape” another female. Especially a halfway decent looking one.

    Just because someone has knowledge beyond their years as far as sex goes, it does not give someone the right to break the law. Its akin to saying a rape victim asked for it because she was wearing a short skirt.

    But I must STRESS, a 20 year old who likes Ashley Tisdale is definitely delayed in some way. Either she likes Ashley Tisdale because she has the mind of a 13 year old, OR she likes her because she is a predator that likes 13 year olds. Kind of lik a bizarro world version of that 30 something year old juggalo featured not too long ago.

  • WryBread

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger malesfemales than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    No double standard for me. Just because a dick wasn’t involved that doesn’t make this any less revolting.

    I don’t know how to say this exactly, but an age of consent law protects the child from her/himself as well as tells older people to back off. Society decides that no matter how much a 13 year old feels as sophisticated as a Bratz doll or a Jonas Brother, it is still too early for her/him to be having sex.

  • WryBread

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger malesfemales than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    No double standard for me. Just because a dick wasn’t involved that doesn’t make this any less revolting.

    I don’t know how to say this exactly, but an age of consent law protects the child from her/himself as well as tells older people to back off. Society decides that no matter how much a 13 year old feels as sophisticated as a Bratz doll or a Jonas Brother, it is still too early for her/him to be having sex.

  • WryBread

    It never fails, there will always be a double standard when it comes to how society views older women with younger males\females than older men with the same. In fact, the double-standard becomes quickly apparent with almost every story we have ever done in which an older woman was the accused. BTW, this woman is 20. She is at an age where she would almost be, or have already, graduated college.

    No double standard for me. Just because a dick wasn’t involved that doesn’t make this any less revolting.

    I don’t know how to say this exactly, but an age of consent law protects the child from her/himself as well as tells older people to back off. Society decides that no matter how much a 13 year old feels as sophisticated as a Bratz doll or a Jonas Brother, it is still too early for her/him to be having sex.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female.

    If you are stating that you are ok with a 20-year-old man fucking a 13-year-old boy or girl, then I will have a hard time reading your standpoint on just about anything. I know that makes you want to slit your wrist, as my opinion means the world to you. :)

    But seriously, if you have children, I would be surprised you hold this opinion…or you are Gprime in disguise.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female.

    If you are stating that you are ok with a 20-year-old man fucking a 13-year-old boy or girl, then I will have a hard time reading your standpoint on just about anything. I know that makes you want to slit your wrist, as my opinion means the world to you. :)

    But seriously, if you have children, I would be surprised you hold this opinion…or you are Gprime in disguise.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female.

    If you are stating that you are ok with a 20-year-old man fucking a 13-year-old boy or girl, then I will have a hard time reading your standpoint on just about anything. I know that makes you want to slit your wrist, as my opinion means the world to you. :)

    But seriously, if you have children, I would be surprised you hold this opinion…or you are Gprime in disguise.

  • sarabei

    But I must STRESS, a 20 year old who likes Ashley Tisdale is definitely delayed in some way. Either she likes Ashley Tisdale because she has the mind of a 13 year old, OR she likes her because she is a predator that likes 13 year olds. Kind of lik a bizarro world version of that 30 something year old juggalo featured not too long ago.

    Lol…I haven’t heard of her until this story and if Hannah Montana is anything to judge by? Major ICK!!! Yeah….REAL stupid in the choice of music dept!!

  • sarabei

    But I must STRESS, a 20 year old who likes Ashley Tisdale is definitely delayed in some way. Either she likes Ashley Tisdale because she has the mind of a 13 year old, OR she likes her because she is a predator that likes 13 year olds. Kind of lik a bizarro world version of that 30 something year old juggalo featured not too long ago.

    Lol…I haven’t heard of her until this story and if Hannah Montana is anything to judge by? Major ICK!!! Yeah….REAL stupid in the choice of music dept!!

  • sarabei

    But I must STRESS, a 20 year old who likes Ashley Tisdale is definitely delayed in some way. Either she likes Ashley Tisdale because she has the mind of a 13 year old, OR she likes her because she is a predator that likes 13 year olds. Kind of lik a bizarro world version of that 30 something year old juggalo featured not too long ago.

    Lol…I haven’t heard of her until this story and if Hannah Montana is anything to judge by? Major ICK!!! Yeah….REAL stupid in the choice of music dept!!

  • grannyof2

    ok, i havent read anyone commenting on the older girl’s boyfriend, maybe the 2 girls were caught and she didnt want the guy to know or even better, he joined in and the young girl was jealous, however it plays out we will know, but i have to say i had my first at age 13, the guy was 18, a few years it did upset me that i made that decision, at 16 i was forced by a 18 yr old, well umm 2 yr difference, wrong is still wrong. but i cant shake it that her boyfriend was involved. maybe it was video taped, anal sex was done anywho it will all come out in the wash.

  • grannyof2

    ok, i havent read anyone commenting on the older girl’s boyfriend, maybe the 2 girls were caught and she didnt want the guy to know or even better, he joined in and the young girl was jealous, however it plays out we will know, but i have to say i had my first at age 13, the guy was 18, a few years it did upset me that i made that decision, at 16 i was forced by a 18 yr old, well umm 2 yr difference, wrong is still wrong. but i cant shake it that her boyfriend was involved. maybe it was video taped, anal sex was done anywho it will all come out in the wash.

  • grannyof2

    ok, i havent read anyone commenting on the older girl’s boyfriend, maybe the 2 girls were caught and she didnt want the guy to know or even better, he joined in and the young girl was jealous, however it plays out we will know, but i have to say i had my first at age 13, the guy was 18, a few years it did upset me that i made that decision, at 16 i was forced by a 18 yr old, well umm 2 yr difference, wrong is still wrong. but i cant shake it that her boyfriend was involved. maybe it was video taped, anal sex was done anywho it will all come out in the wash.

  • Dancer82

    I’m sorry I just read everyone’s comments and then I saw that picture someone posted where she actually looks older. All I have to say is photoshop. Oh and have you seen the thirteen year olds today? It’t either in the chicken or the water…but DAYUM! My little sister is 13 and I can proudly say she is a little hottie. When I was 13, I barely had boobs or an ass. My mom used to cover me up with baggy t-shirts and basketball shorts. Not to mention the fact that I’ve had the ‘talk’ with my sister b/c my mom is too wierded out by it. My little sister knows damn well what a BJ and eating out means. Seriously, this 13 year old is probably pissed at her 20 year old friend for not giving her enough attention and wanted to get her in trouble.
    And this, my friends is why murderers, rapists and REAL pedophiles are getting away with what they are getting away with today.

    Someone’s crying “Wolf” for sure.

  • Dancer82

    I’m sorry I just read everyone’s comments and then I saw that picture someone posted where she actually looks older. All I have to say is photoshop. Oh and have you seen the thirteen year olds today? It’t either in the chicken or the water…but DAYUM! My little sister is 13 and I can proudly say she is a little hottie. When I was 13, I barely had boobs or an ass. My mom used to cover me up with baggy t-shirts and basketball shorts. Not to mention the fact that I’ve had the ‘talk’ with my sister b/c my mom is too wierded out by it. My little sister knows damn well what a BJ and eating out means. Seriously, this 13 year old is probably pissed at her 20 year old friend for not giving her enough attention and wanted to get her in trouble.
    And this, my friends is why murderers, rapists and REAL pedophiles are getting away with what they are getting away with today.

    Someone’s crying “Wolf” for sure.

  • Dancer82

    I’m sorry I just read everyone’s comments and then I saw that picture someone posted where she actually looks older. All I have to say is photoshop. Oh and have you seen the thirteen year olds today? It’t either in the chicken or the water…but DAYUM! My little sister is 13 and I can proudly say she is a little hottie. When I was 13, I barely had boobs or an ass. My mom used to cover me up with baggy t-shirts and basketball shorts. Not to mention the fact that I’ve had the ‘talk’ with my sister b/c my mom is too wierded out by it. My little sister knows damn well what a BJ and eating out means. Seriously, this 13 year old is probably pissed at her 20 year old friend for not giving her enough attention and wanted to get her in trouble.
    And this, my friends is why murderers, rapists and REAL pedophiles are getting away with what they are getting away with today.

    Someone’s crying “Wolf” for sure.

  • Dancer82

    Stephanie Gail Kirkland is charged with three counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct and four counts of lewd acts on a minor.  Since she’s out of jail now, maybe she’ll come explain to us what really happened.  Maybe she did it.  Or maybe the young pussy Stephanie likes is just a kitten named Chipper.

    I’m not defending her but there has to be something going on other than this.

    Stephanie Gail Kirkland is charged with three counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct and four counts of lewd acts on a minor.  Since she’s out of jail now, maybe she’ll come explain to us what really happened.  Maybe she did it.  Or maybe the young pussy Stephanie likes is just a kitten named Chipper.

  • sarabei

    If you are stating that you are ok with a 20-year-old man fucking a 13-year-old boy or girl, then I will have a hard time reading your standpoint on just about anything. I know that makes you want to slit your wrist, as my opinion means the world to you.

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult…IF I had kids would I want a 20 year old of either gender “fucking” as you say my child? No I wouldn’t; but I also know kids at that age DO consent, and thus while a punishment is in order, REAL jail I don’t think is a good punishment cause real criminals are in there, deservedly so in most cases. Wry made a good point that I was going to quote, but will address here since I am addressing your comment at the moment…before I go slit my wrist as your opinion DOES mean so much to me…lol!! Seriously, I always like most of the opinions expressed by the regulars on this forum, and the writing style of you, Imp, and the other contributors is one of the many things I love about this site!
    Yeah, I can see the laws being designed to protect kids from themselves, and warning older people off. Still these people are not true pedophiles like we usually discuss here. Actually raping, forcing, fondling, etc. an actual CHILD.

    Yeah she broke the law IF the contact occured. And while I still think it was consensual, she should be punished to some degree, but so should this girl IF she was consenting to the contact. Said “victim” is not lily white if she agreed to the contact.

    I know the laws are designed to protect these kids who want to have sex, but they grow up faster and faster every year…just look at the unsupervised MS of these “kids”. It would be nice, if in a perfect world, kids enjoyed being kids…sadly they want to grow up way too fast and in most cases they do. Doesn’t make it right…just makes it sad.

  • sarabei

    If you are stating that you are ok with a 20-year-old man fucking a 13-year-old boy or girl, then I will have a hard time reading your standpoint on just about anything. I know that makes you want to slit your wrist, as my opinion means the world to you.

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult…IF I had kids would I want a 20 year old of either gender “fucking” as you say my child? No I wouldn’t; but I also know kids at that age DO consent, and thus while a punishment is in order, REAL jail I don’t think is a good punishment cause real criminals are in there, deservedly so in most cases. Wry made a good point that I was going to quote, but will address here since I am addressing your comment at the moment…before I go slit my wrist as your opinion DOES mean so much to me…lol!! Seriously, I always like most of the opinions expressed by the regulars on this forum, and the writing style of you, Imp, and the other contributors is one of the many things I love about this site!
    Yeah, I can see the laws being designed to protect kids from themselves, and warning older people off. Still these people are not true pedophiles like we usually discuss here. Actually raping, forcing, fondling, etc. an actual CHILD.

    Yeah she broke the law IF the contact occured. And while I still think it was consensual, she should be punished to some degree, but so should this girl IF she was consenting to the contact. Said “victim” is not lily white if she agreed to the contact.

    I know the laws are designed to protect these kids who want to have sex, but they grow up faster and faster every year…just look at the unsupervised MS of these “kids”. It would be nice, if in a perfect world, kids enjoyed being kids…sadly they want to grow up way too fast and in most cases they do. Doesn’t make it right…just makes it sad.

  • Dancer82

    Stephanie Gail Kirkland is charged with three counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct and four counts of lewd acts on a minor.  Since she’s out of jail now, maybe she’ll come explain to us what really happened.  Maybe she did it.  Or maybe the young pussy Stephanie likes is just a kitten named Chipper.

    I’m not defending her but there has to be something going on other than this.

    Stephanie Gail Kirkland is charged with three counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct and four counts of lewd acts on a minor.  Since she’s out of jail now, maybe she’ll come explain to us what really happened.  Maybe she did it.  Or maybe the young pussy Stephanie likes is just a kitten named Chipper.

  • sarabei

    If you are stating that you are ok with a 20-year-old man fucking a 13-year-old boy or girl, then I will have a hard time reading your standpoint on just about anything. I know that makes you want to slit your wrist, as my opinion means the world to you.

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult…IF I had kids would I want a 20 year old of either gender “fucking” as you say my child? No I wouldn’t; but I also know kids at that age DO consent, and thus while a punishment is in order, REAL jail I don’t think is a good punishment cause real criminals are in there, deservedly so in most cases. Wry made a good point that I was going to quote, but will address here since I am addressing your comment at the moment…before I go slit my wrist as your opinion DOES mean so much to me…lol!! Seriously, I always like most of the opinions expressed by the regulars on this forum, and the writing style of you, Imp, and the other contributors is one of the many things I love about this site!
    Yeah, I can see the laws being designed to protect kids from themselves, and warning older people off. Still these people are not true pedophiles like we usually discuss here. Actually raping, forcing, fondling, etc. an actual CHILD.

    Yeah she broke the law IF the contact occured. And while I still think it was consensual, she should be punished to some degree, but so should this girl IF she was consenting to the contact. Said “victim” is not lily white if she agreed to the contact.

    I know the laws are designed to protect these kids who want to have sex, but they grow up faster and faster every year…just look at the unsupervised MS of these “kids”. It would be nice, if in a perfect world, kids enjoyed being kids…sadly they want to grow up way too fast and in most cases they do. Doesn’t make it right…just makes it sad.

  • sarabei

    But seriously, if you have children, I would be surprised you hold this opinion…or you are Gprime in disguise.

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

  • sarabei

    But seriously, if you have children, I would be surprised you hold this opinion…or you are Gprime in disguise.

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

  • sarabei

    But seriously, if you have children, I would be surprised you hold this opinion…or you are Gprime in disguise.

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

  • Kathy

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult

    Yeah, but this isn’t molestation. The charges are along the lines of statutory rape.

    But check out the comments on this article. This girl has some very serious defenders and they hate this 13 year old and her family. They also hate the paper for ruining her life since she hasn’t even been found guilty.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/081308-assault-for-web
    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0814SexAbuse

  • Kathy

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult

    Yeah, but this isn’t molestation. The charges are along the lines of statutory rape.

    But check out the comments on this article. This girl has some very serious defenders and they hate this 13 year old and her family. They also hate the paper for ruining her life since she hasn’t even been found guilty.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/081308-assault-for-web
    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0814SexAbuse

  • Kathy

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult

    Yeah, but this isn’t molestation. The charges are along the lines of statutory rape.

    But check out the comments on this article. This girl has some very serious defenders and they hate this 13 year old and her family. They also hate the paper for ruining her life since she hasn’t even been found guilty.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/081308-assault-for-web
    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0814SexAbuse

  • Kathy

    No, what I mean is that I don’t see it the same way as what I call TRUE molestation…like a child child and an adult

    Yeah, but this isn’t molestation. The charges are along the lines of statutory rape.

    But check out the comments on this article. This girl has some very serious defenders and they hate this 13 year old and her family. They also hate the paper for ruining her life since she hasn’t even been found guilty.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/081308-assault-for-web
    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0814SexAbuse

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

    Just an inside joke about one of our past members. :)

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

    Just an inside joke about one of our past members. :)

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

    Just an inside joke about one of our past members. :)

  • dammitall

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close .

    5-6 years difference is no big deal to adults, but when I was 18-19, I did not hang out with 13-yr-olds. There was a world of difference.

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

  • dammitall

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close .

    5-6 years difference is no big deal to adults, but when I was 18-19, I did not hang out with 13-yr-olds. There was a world of difference.

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

  • dammitall

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close .

    5-6 years difference is no big deal to adults, but when I was 18-19, I did not hang out with 13-yr-olds. There was a world of difference.

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Ummmm…..educate me, what is a Gprime? I know I will feel stupid once it is explained, but bear with me please!

    Just an inside joke about one of our past members. :)

  • dammitall

    I am sorry, I just can’t see this as molestation…be this a female or a male. The ages are just too close .

    5-6 years difference is no big deal to adults, but when I was 18-19, I did not hang out with 13-yr-olds. There was a world of difference.

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

  • Sunnie

    Had this been a case where it was a 20 year old male who impregnanted a 13 year old female regardless if she had consented or not, he wouldve been called every name in the book from skinner to diddler to pedophile..etc.

  • Sunnie

    Had this been a case where it was a 20 year old male who impregnanted a 13 year old female regardless if she had consented or not, he wouldve been called every name in the book from skinner to diddler to pedophile..etc.

  • Sunnie

    Had this been a case where it was a 20 year old male who impregnanted a 13 year old female regardless if she had consented or not, he wouldve been called every name in the book from skinner to diddler to pedophile..etc.

  • mm_classy

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

  • mm_classy

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

  • mm_classy

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    To clarify, my statements in this thread are in general, and not directly about the two individuals in this story. I have no idea who is telling the truth in this one.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    To clarify, my statements in this thread are in general, and not directly about the two individuals in this story. I have no idea who is telling the truth in this one.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    To clarify, my statements in this thread are in general, and not directly about the two individuals in this story. I have no idea who is telling the truth in this one.

  • WryBread

    My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    This is surely a good example of kids not being able to make important decisions. I’m sure she had no idea of the hell she would set loose once the system got into action on her accusation. It sounds as if she was a kid grasping at the power available to her, staging a big “There! See!” scene with herself as the triumphant star watching HIM get “bossed around.” I wonder how she handled the guilt afterwards. A very sad story, especially since liars like this make it harder for real victims.

  • WryBread

    My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    This is surely a good example of kids not being able to make important decisions. I’m sure she had no idea of the hell she would set loose once the system got into action on her accusation. It sounds as if she was a kid grasping at the power available to her, staging a big “There! See!” scene with herself as the triumphant star watching HIM get “bossed around.” I wonder how she handled the guilt afterwards. A very sad story, especially since liars like this make it harder for real victims.

  • WryBread

    My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    This is surely a good example of kids not being able to make important decisions. I’m sure she had no idea of the hell she would set loose once the system got into action on her accusation. It sounds as if she was a kid grasping at the power available to her, staging a big “There! See!” scene with herself as the triumphant star watching HIM get “bossed around.” I wonder how she handled the guilt afterwards. A very sad story, especially since liars like this make it harder for real victims.

  • WryBread

    My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    This is surely a good example of kids not being able to make important decisions. I’m sure she had no idea of the hell she would set loose once the system got into action on her accusation. It sounds as if she was a kid grasping at the power available to her, staging a big “There! See!” scene with herself as the triumphant star watching HIM get “bossed around.” I wonder how she handled the guilt afterwards. A very sad story, especially since liars like this make it harder for real victims.

  • mm_classy

    wanted to add, if this is a real case of molestation, they she should be punished the same as a man would. I have a young daughter, and if an older woman messed with her, when she’s 13… I’d kill her!

  • mm_classy

    wanted to add, if this is a real case of molestation, they she should be punished the same as a man would. I have a young daughter, and if an older woman messed with her, when she’s 13… I’d kill her!

  • mm_classy

    wanted to add, if this is a real case of molestation, they she should be punished the same as a man would. I have a young daughter, and if an older woman messed with her, when she’s 13… I’d kill her!

  • mm_classy

    wanted to add, if this is a real case of molestation, they she should be punished the same as a man would. I have a young daughter, and if an older woman messed with her, when she’s 13… I’d kill her!

  • WryBread

    Do you think they photoshopped that kitty? No, all kitties are naturally cute. It looks like it wants to get down and away from her. I can understand.

  • WryBread

    Do you think they photoshopped that kitty? No, all kitties are naturally cute. It looks like it wants to get down and away from her. I can understand.

  • WryBread

    Do you think they photoshopped that kitty? No, all kitties are naturally cute. It looks like it wants to get down and away from her. I can understand.

  • WryBread

    Do you think they photoshopped that kitty? No, all kitties are naturally cute. It looks like it wants to get down and away from her. I can understand.

  • tray-bay-bay

    I have a 13 y/o daughter. First off, I would not be letting her hang out with a 20 y/o. If any man or woman 18 or older is messing with someone 13, that’s illegal.

  • tray-bay-bay

    I have a 13 y/o daughter. First off, I would not be letting her hang out with a 20 y/o. If any man or woman 18 or older is messing with someone 13, that’s illegal.

  • tray-bay-bay

    I have a 13 y/o daughter. First off, I would not be letting her hang out with a 20 y/o. If any man or woman 18 or older is messing with someone 13, that’s illegal.

  • tray-bay-bay

    I have a 13 y/o daughter. First off, I would not be letting her hang out with a 20 y/o. If any man or woman 18 or older is messing with someone 13, that’s illegal.

  • Harley_Tech

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk.

    Wow, that one scares me.

    That is exactly why there are ages of consent defined. A 13 YO is not equipped with the, knowledge, life experience, or understanding of the consequences of their actions to make an informed consent.
    the 20 YO has just enough of the above to be able to manipulate the 13YO into bad and even harmful decisions.

    I get what you are saying, but a 7 year difference between young adult and just barely a teenager is a huge difference in life experience.

    In the cases where the two are within 2-3 years of each other in age and both below 18, I agree with you 100%, no matter what gender. Even if they are within 2-3 years and straddling that age of consent line I can agree with you.

    Having said all that, this story is starting to look more and more like a very young girl crying wolf to get back at her probably too old for her girlfriend. If that is the case, it is sad that the older girl will be saddled with a sex offender tag for the rest of her life.

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk.

    Wow, that one scares me.

    That is exactly why there are ages of consent defined. A 13 YO is not equipped with the, knowledge, life experience, or understanding of the consequences of their actions to make an informed consent.
    the 20 YO has just enough of the above to be able to manipulate the 13YO into bad and even harmful decisions.

    I get what you are saying, but a 7 year difference between young adult and just barely a teenager is a huge difference in life experience.

    In the cases where the two are within 2-3 years of each other in age and both below 18, I agree with you 100%, no matter what gender. Even if they are within 2-3 years and straddling that age of consent line I can agree with you.

    Having said all that, this story is starting to look more and more like a very young girl crying wolf to get back at her probably too old for her girlfriend. If that is the case, it is sad that the older girl will be saddled with a sex offender tag for the rest of her life.

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk.

    Wow, that one scares me.

    That is exactly why there are ages of consent defined. A 13 YO is not equipped with the, knowledge, life experience, or understanding of the consequences of their actions to make an informed consent.
    the 20 YO has just enough of the above to be able to manipulate the 13YO into bad and even harmful decisions.

    I get what you are saying, but a 7 year difference between young adult and just barely a teenager is a huge difference in life experience.

    In the cases where the two are within 2-3 years of each other in age and both below 18, I agree with you 100%, no matter what gender. Even if they are within 2-3 years and straddling that age of consent line I can agree with you.

    Having said all that, this story is starting to look more and more like a very young girl crying wolf to get back at her probably too old for her girlfriend. If that is the case, it is sad that the older girl will be saddled with a sex offender tag for the rest of her life.

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I disagree, for me at least, a 20 year old with a 13 year old is still not molestation, male or female. Make it a 30 or even 25 year old, then we can talk.

    Wow, that one scares me.

    That is exactly why there are ages of consent defined. A 13 YO is not equipped with the, knowledge, life experience, or understanding of the consequences of their actions to make an informed consent.
    the 20 YO has just enough of the above to be able to manipulate the 13YO into bad and even harmful decisions.

    I get what you are saying, but a 7 year difference between young adult and just barely a teenager is a huge difference in life experience.

    In the cases where the two are within 2-3 years of each other in age and both below 18, I agree with you 100%, no matter what gender. Even if they are within 2-3 years and straddling that age of consent line I can agree with you.

    Having said all that, this story is starting to look more and more like a very young girl crying wolf to get back at her probably too old for her girlfriend. If that is the case, it is sad that the older girl will be saddled with a sex offender tag for the rest of her life.

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    R

  • prettyuglyish

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    They are. Most of the time in these “Romeo & Juliet” situations the offender is given probation and/or community service. Also, sometimes they don’t have to register as a sex offender – and if they do it’s only for 1 to 5 years and their record can be expunged after their probation period.

    I would still have mixed emotions about the prosecution of the adult whether they were male or female. It is wrong, it is illegal, it is sick and all of those things, but the fact that they both were teenagers at the time makes it less heinous in my book. But 20 & 13, no way. Some how those couple of years make a big difference.

    As I said earlier, my experiences and actions at that age affect my outlook. Looking back, my blood boils at the thought of some of the people I hung out with, yet I also take responsibility for my actions and know how I used and manipulated to get what I wanted, as well. Then again, my mindset at that age probably wasn’t typical.

    Perhaps making the 13 year old take a mandatory sex ed class, or something, might help deter them. I don’t know. I just don’t like the idea of babying them and removing any of their responsibility just because their consent isn’t legally acknowledged. I’d like to hear your guys’ thoughts on that.

  • prettyuglyish

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    They are. Most of the time in these “Romeo & Juliet” situations the offender is given probation and/or community service. Also, sometimes they don’t have to register as a sex offender – and if they do it’s only for 1 to 5 years and their record can be expunged after their probation period.

    I would still have mixed emotions about the prosecution of the adult whether they were male or female. It is wrong, it is illegal, it is sick and all of those things, but the fact that they both were teenagers at the time makes it less heinous in my book. But 20 & 13, no way. Some how those couple of years make a big difference.

    As I said earlier, my experiences and actions at that age affect my outlook. Looking back, my blood boils at the thought of some of the people I hung out with, yet I also take responsibility for my actions and know how I used and manipulated to get what I wanted, as well. Then again, my mindset at that age probably wasn’t typical.

    Perhaps making the 13 year old take a mandatory sex ed class, or something, might help deter them. I don’t know. I just don’t like the idea of babying them and removing any of their responsibility just because their consent isn’t legally acknowledged. I’d like to hear your guys’ thoughts on that.

  • prettyuglyish

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    They are. Most of the time in these “Romeo & Juliet” situations the offender is given probation and/or community service. Also, sometimes they don’t have to register as a sex offender – and if they do it’s only for 1 to 5 years and their record can be expunged after their probation period.

    I would still have mixed emotions about the prosecution of the adult whether they were male or female. It is wrong, it is illegal, it is sick and all of those things, but the fact that they both were teenagers at the time makes it less heinous in my book. But 20 & 13, no way. Some how those couple of years make a big difference.

    As I said earlier, my experiences and actions at that age affect my outlook. Looking back, my blood boils at the thought of some of the people I hung out with, yet I also take responsibility for my actions and know how I used and manipulated to get what I wanted, as well. Then again, my mindset at that age probably wasn’t typical.

    Perhaps making the 13 year old take a mandatory sex ed class, or something, might help deter them. I don’t know. I just don’t like the idea of babying them and removing any of their responsibility just because their consent isn’t legally acknowledged. I’d like to hear your guys’ thoughts on that.

  • prettyuglyish

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    They are. Most of the time in these “Romeo & Juliet” situations the offender is given probation and/or community service. Also, sometimes they don’t have to register as a sex offender – and if they do it’s only for 1 to 5 years and their record can be expunged after their probation period.

    I would still have mixed emotions about the prosecution of the adult whether they were male or female. It is wrong, it is illegal, it is sick and all of those things, but the fact that they both were teenagers at the time makes it less heinous in my book. But 20 & 13, no way. Some how those couple of years make a big difference.

    As I said earlier, my experiences and actions at that age affect my outlook. Looking back, my blood boils at the thought of some of the people I hung out with, yet I also take responsibility for my actions and know how I used and manipulated to get what I wanted, as well. Then again, my mindset at that age probably wasn’t typical.

    Perhaps making the 13 year old take a mandatory sex ed class, or something, might help deter them. I don’t know. I just don’t like the idea of babying them and removing any of their responsibility just because their consent isn’t legally acknowledged. I’d like to hear your guys’ thoughts on that.

  • sarabei

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    To me a 7 or 8 year old is a child and may know of sex but def. doesn’t understand the actual consequences of having sex. A 13 year old does. They understand more than people want to give them credit for. Like what Pretty says, I am viewing this also from my life experiences and know how I thought and felt at that age. I, again, think this 13 year old has lied and now someone who is probably innocent will be saddled with this the rest of their life. I would LOVE to see the 13 year old prosecuted for something if it is proven to be a lie. Look back, don’t remember the name of the article, about a 13 yo posing as an adult…looked VERY adult, would go have sex with men then cry rape or some such when caught. Her FATHER knew about her escapades and did nothing. That is why I don’t think the 13 yos are as innocent and immature and people want to believe. They are coming up in a different time than we did…they are maturing MUCH younger than we did.

  • sarabei

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    To me a 7 or 8 year old is a child and may know of sex but def. doesn’t understand the actual consequences of having sex. A 13 year old does. They understand more than people want to give them credit for. Like what Pretty says, I am viewing this also from my life experiences and know how I thought and felt at that age. I, again, think this 13 year old has lied and now someone who is probably innocent will be saddled with this the rest of their life. I would LOVE to see the 13 year old prosecuted for something if it is proven to be a lie. Look back, don’t remember the name of the article, about a 13 yo posing as an adult…looked VERY adult, would go have sex with men then cry rape or some such when caught. Her FATHER knew about her escapades and did nothing. That is why I don’t think the 13 yos are as innocent and immature and people want to believe. They are coming up in a different time than we did…they are maturing MUCH younger than we did.

  • sarabei

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    To me a 7 or 8 year old is a child and may know of sex but def. doesn’t understand the actual consequences of having sex. A 13 year old does. They understand more than people want to give them credit for. Like what Pretty says, I am viewing this also from my life experiences and know how I thought and felt at that age. I, again, think this 13 year old has lied and now someone who is probably innocent will be saddled with this the rest of their life. I would LOVE to see the 13 year old prosecuted for something if it is proven to be a lie. Look back, don’t remember the name of the article, about a 13 yo posing as an adult…looked VERY adult, would go have sex with men then cry rape or some such when caught. Her FATHER knew about her escapades and did nothing. That is why I don’t think the 13 yos are as innocent and immature and people want to believe. They are coming up in a different time than we did…they are maturing MUCH younger than we did.

  • sarabei

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    To me a 7 or 8 year old is a child and may know of sex but def. doesn’t understand the actual consequences of having sex. A 13 year old does. They understand more than people want to give them credit for. Like what Pretty says, I am viewing this also from my life experiences and know how I thought and felt at that age. I, again, think this 13 year old has lied and now someone who is probably innocent will be saddled with this the rest of their life. I would LOVE to see the 13 year old prosecuted for something if it is proven to be a lie. Look back, don’t remember the name of the article, about a 13 yo posing as an adult…looked VERY adult, would go have sex with men then cry rape or some such when caught. Her FATHER knew about her escapades and did nothing. That is why I don’t think the 13 yos are as innocent and immature and people want to believe. They are coming up in a different time than we did…they are maturing MUCH younger than we did.

  • nurseronda

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

  • nurseronda

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

  • nurseronda

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

  • nurseronda

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

  • Stella

    I also have a feeling there’s more to this story. And I also agree that 13 y.o. now isn’t like when I was 13 y.o.

    I worked in an ob/gyn office. One patient was 13 y.o, mother of said patient was early 30’s; both were pregnant and due within a week of each other. And they actually thought this was SO COOL. (We were required to notify CPS because of other issues involved.) Turns out the 13 y.o. had to deliver via c/s since she was not developed enough to deliver vaginally. Also interesting, this young girl had never even had a period but had two STD’s.

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    Maybe it’s just me getting older, but some of these girls look sooooo young. And watching thelympics Chinese “women” gym team sorta’ gives me a creepy feeling — are they truly 16?

    Maybe I’m just officially old now.

  • Stella

    I also have a feeling there’s more to this story. And I also agree that 13 y.o. now isn’t like when I was 13 y.o.

    I worked in an ob/gyn office. One patient was 13 y.o, mother of said patient was early 30’s; both were pregnant and due within a week of each other. And they actually thought this was SO COOL. (We were required to notify CPS because of other issues involved.) Turns out the 13 y.o. had to deliver via c/s since she was not developed enough to deliver vaginally. Also interesting, this young girl had never even had a period but had two STD’s.

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    Maybe it’s just me getting older, but some of these girls look sooooo young. And watching thelympics Chinese “women” gym team sorta’ gives me a creepy feeling — are they truly 16?

    Maybe I’m just officially old now.

  • Stella

    I also have a feeling there’s more to this story. And I also agree that 13 y.o. now isn’t like when I was 13 y.o.

    I worked in an ob/gyn office. One patient was 13 y.o, mother of said patient was early 30’s; both were pregnant and due within a week of each other. And they actually thought this was SO COOL. (We were required to notify CPS because of other issues involved.) Turns out the 13 y.o. had to deliver via c/s since she was not developed enough to deliver vaginally. Also interesting, this young girl had never even had a period but had two STD’s.

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    Maybe it’s just me getting older, but some of these girls look sooooo young. And watching thelympics Chinese “women” gym team sorta’ gives me a creepy feeling — are they truly 16?

    Maybe I’m just officially old now.

  • Stella

    I also have a feeling there’s more to this story. And I also agree that 13 y.o. now isn’t like when I was 13 y.o.

    I worked in an ob/gyn office. One patient was 13 y.o, mother of said patient was early 30’s; both were pregnant and due within a week of each other. And they actually thought this was SO COOL. (We were required to notify CPS because of other issues involved.) Turns out the 13 y.o. had to deliver via c/s since she was not developed enough to deliver vaginally. Also interesting, this young girl had never even had a period but had two STD’s.

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    Maybe it’s just me getting older, but some of these girls look sooooo young. And watching thelympics Chinese “women” gym team sorta’ gives me a creepy feeling — are they truly 16?

    Maybe I’m just officially old now.

  • LeeMouse

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

    Well, a lot of times when someone recants, it’s because they are under a lot of pressure from the family to do so. Look how often victims of domestic violence try to recant their stories in court, or how often a child is pressured to recant the story so that mom’s boyfriend or whoever can move back in. Add onto that the incredible guilt of feeling like you’re the one responsible for the suicide, and must rehabilitate your deceased father’s reputation, and I think lots of people might recant, true or not.

    Not saying that’s necessarily what happened with your friend’s family; just that while claims of molestation are false, recantations are also sometimes false.

  • LeeMouse

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

    Well, a lot of times when someone recants, it’s because they are under a lot of pressure from the family to do so. Look how often victims of domestic violence try to recant their stories in court, or how often a child is pressured to recant the story so that mom’s boyfriend or whoever can move back in. Add onto that the incredible guilt of feeling like you’re the one responsible for the suicide, and must rehabilitate your deceased father’s reputation, and I think lots of people might recant, true or not.

    Not saying that’s necessarily what happened with your friend’s family; just that while claims of molestation are false, recantations are also sometimes false.

  • LeeMouse

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

    Well, a lot of times when someone recants, it’s because they are under a lot of pressure from the family to do so. Look how often victims of domestic violence try to recant their stories in court, or how often a child is pressured to recant the story so that mom’s boyfriend or whoever can move back in. Add onto that the incredible guilt of feeling like you’re the one responsible for the suicide, and must rehabilitate your deceased father’s reputation, and I think lots of people might recant, true or not.

    Not saying that’s necessarily what happened with your friend’s family; just that while claims of molestation are false, recantations are also sometimes false.

  • LeeMouse

    Sadly, it’s just hard to say in cases like this. Young girls do often lie about these things. My ex’s best friend all his life, had a daughter that was mad at him, and accused him of molesting her… she was a friend of my son. So, she was about 14 or 15. Any time he wouldn’t allow her to do something she wanted to do, she’d use that as a threat! Then finally followed through… he was forced to move out of the home, leave his wife and other children. Anyways, he ended up overdosing and dying.

    Then the girl finally said it was a lie…

    Only because of seeing this first hand makes me question when a girl suddenly, after time, decides to cry rape..

    Well, a lot of times when someone recants, it’s because they are under a lot of pressure from the family to do so. Look how often victims of domestic violence try to recant their stories in court, or how often a child is pressured to recant the story so that mom’s boyfriend or whoever can move back in. Add onto that the incredible guilt of feeling like you’re the one responsible for the suicide, and must rehabilitate your deceased father’s reputation, and I think lots of people might recant, true or not.

    Not saying that’s necessarily what happened with your friend’s family; just that while claims of molestation are false, recantations are also sometimes false.

  • ScotchyScotch

    And for the record, I am in SC and I am one classy bitch. Don’t. Hate.

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    Morbid – a couple of ideas for the site:
    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze??? I think this would be fun and could be a heavily commented area on the site if done well… I know I would be rooting for my state – Arizona. Yes, there are plenty of wackos out here, and I do notice them on this site. :)
    2.) An interactive map of the US that shows the quantity of DD articles inside each state’s boundaries. If you click on a state, it takes you to a date-sorted list of all the DD articles/crimes that happened in each.

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

  • ScotchyScotch

    And for the record, I am in SC and I am one classy bitch. Don’t. Hate.

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    Morbid – a couple of ideas for the site:
    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze??? I think this would be fun and could be a heavily commented area on the site if done well… I know I would be rooting for my state – Arizona. Yes, there are plenty of wackos out here, and I do notice them on this site. :)
    2.) An interactive map of the US that shows the quantity of DD articles inside each state’s boundaries. If you click on a state, it takes you to a date-sorted list of all the DD articles/crimes that happened in each.

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

  • ScotchyScotch

    And for the record, I am in SC and I am one classy bitch. Don’t. Hate.

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    Morbid – a couple of ideas for the site:
    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze??? I think this would be fun and could be a heavily commented area on the site if done well… I know I would be rooting for my state – Arizona. Yes, there are plenty of wackos out here, and I do notice them on this site. :)
    2.) An interactive map of the US that shows the quantity of DD articles inside each state’s boundaries. If you click on a state, it takes you to a date-sorted list of all the DD articles/crimes that happened in each.

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

  • Kathy

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    I think at this age, it is absolutely normal to experiment with members of the same sex. The only difference is NOW, it isn’t seen as taboo.

    People grow and mature. I doubt a future employer will look at someone’s myspace page at 13 and base their judgments on that. Sexual orientation would have nothing to do with hiring practices anyway. If so, I know a few skanks that work with me that need to get their butts fired.

    I think 13 year olds are still 13 year olds. Just like when I was 13, there were the innocent, virginal, untouched, pure-as-the-wind-driven snow ones like ME, and then there were the couple of very sexually active ones. Hell, I remember a pregnant 12 year old when I was in the 7th grade. Nothings changed, its just not hidden anymore.

  • Kathy

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    I think at this age, it is absolutely normal to experiment with members of the same sex. The only difference is NOW, it isn’t seen as taboo.

    People grow and mature. I doubt a future employer will look at someone’s myspace page at 13 and base their judgments on that. Sexual orientation would have nothing to do with hiring practices anyway. If so, I know a few skanks that work with me that need to get their butts fired.

    I think 13 year olds are still 13 year olds. Just like when I was 13, there were the innocent, virginal, untouched, pure-as-the-wind-driven snow ones like ME, and then there were the couple of very sexually active ones. Hell, I remember a pregnant 12 year old when I was in the 7th grade. Nothings changed, its just not hidden anymore.

  • Kathy

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    I think at this age, it is absolutely normal to experiment with members of the same sex. The only difference is NOW, it isn’t seen as taboo.

    People grow and mature. I doubt a future employer will look at someone’s myspace page at 13 and base their judgments on that. Sexual orientation would have nothing to do with hiring practices anyway. If so, I know a few skanks that work with me that need to get their butts fired.

    I think 13 year olds are still 13 year olds. Just like when I was 13, there were the innocent, virginal, untouched, pure-as-the-wind-driven snow ones like ME, and then there were the couple of very sexually active ones. Hell, I remember a pregnant 12 year old when I was in the 7th grade. Nothings changed, its just not hidden anymore.

  • Kathy

    When you look on some of the myspace pages under the orientation description, I’ve noticed that the younger groups tend to list their’s as bi. I guess the young folks don’t realize what can come back to haunt them in the future, career-wise.

    I think at this age, it is absolutely normal to experiment with members of the same sex. The only difference is NOW, it isn’t seen as taboo.

    People grow and mature. I doubt a future employer will look at someone’s myspace page at 13 and base their judgments on that. Sexual orientation would have nothing to do with hiring practices anyway. If so, I know a few skanks that work with me that need to get their butts fired.

    I think 13 year olds are still 13 year olds. Just like when I was 13, there were the innocent, virginal, untouched, pure-as-the-wind-driven snow ones like ME, and then there were the couple of very sexually active ones. Hell, I remember a pregnant 12 year old when I was in the 7th grade. Nothings changed, its just not hidden anymore.

  • Kathy

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    I said I am IN SC not FROM SC. I am classy. But native South Carolinians are trashy and straight up redneck, except for the Southern Belles in Charleston. They are repressed and snotty.

    *runs and ducks*

    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze???

    No contest. Florida gets the gold easily.

  • Kathy

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    I said I am IN SC not FROM SC. I am classy. But native South Carolinians are trashy and straight up redneck, except for the Southern Belles in Charleston. They are repressed and snotty.

    *runs and ducks*

    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze???

    No contest. Florida gets the gold easily.

  • Kathy

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    I said I am IN SC not FROM SC. I am classy. But native South Carolinians are trashy and straight up redneck, except for the Southern Belles in Charleston. They are repressed and snotty.

    *runs and ducks*

    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze???

    No contest. Florida gets the gold easily.

  • Kathy

    Awwww Kathy, lighten up. I am sure you are classy, but can’t we have a little fun with where a lot of the crimes occur in the DD???

    I said I am IN SC not FROM SC. I am classy. But native South Carolinians are trashy and straight up redneck, except for the Southern Belles in Charleston. They are repressed and snotty.

    *runs and ducks*

    1.) A running list of states ranked via the quantity of DD articles attributed to each in a given year. Then, at the end of the year – you could award “prizes” for the worst three. Gold, Silver and Bronze???

    No contest. Florida gets the gold easily.

  • sarabei

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

    Yeah…that confused me too…..but I overlooked it as I don’t think the contact occured. I will take a page from Imp’s book though and if it turns out this girl did not lie and was actually molested, I won’t mind admitting I was wrong in my conclusion! From a comment in the newspaper article link Kathy submitted it appears the 13 yo has been really active accusing other people of the same stuff.

  • sarabei

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

    Yeah…that confused me too…..but I overlooked it as I don’t think the contact occured. I will take a page from Imp’s book though and if it turns out this girl did not lie and was actually molested, I won’t mind admitting I was wrong in my conclusion! From a comment in the newspaper article link Kathy submitted it appears the 13 yo has been really active accusing other people of the same stuff.

  • sarabei

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

    Yeah…that confused me too…..but I overlooked it as I don’t think the contact occured. I will take a page from Imp’s book though and if it turns out this girl did not lie and was actually molested, I won’t mind admitting I was wrong in my conclusion! From a comment in the newspaper article link Kathy submitted it appears the 13 yo has been really active accusing other people of the same stuff.

  • sarabei

    I am confused here, as usual. If Stephanie was only 18 years old when this started then the 13 year-old would have only been 11 years old when it first started?

    Yeah…that confused me too…..but I overlooked it as I don’t think the contact occured. I will take a page from Imp’s book though and if it turns out this girl did not lie and was actually molested, I won’t mind admitting I was wrong in my conclusion! From a comment in the newspaper article link Kathy submitted it appears the 13 yo has been really active accusing other people of the same stuff.

  • katyk

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

    I appreciate the “Stay Classy”- ness in your posts. You should also throw in some other Anchorman quotes to balance it out. Like, “I’m in a glass case of emotion!” or “Milk was a bad choice!” I wish I had the same commitment with my gravatar. I just like the ‘stache.

    I’m really interested to see how this case ends up. I have a feeling it could end up being much worse than we suspect or nothing at all. Don’t be fooled by the pretty face. I know we’ve all seen the Lifetime movies where the cheerleading squad plots to murder someone. Or rob a bank.

  • katyk

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

    I appreciate the “Stay Classy”- ness in your posts. You should also throw in some other Anchorman quotes to balance it out. Like, “I’m in a glass case of emotion!” or “Milk was a bad choice!” I wish I had the same commitment with my gravatar. I just like the ‘stache.

    I’m really interested to see how this case ends up. I have a feeling it could end up being much worse than we suspect or nothing at all. Don’t be fooled by the pretty face. I know we’ve all seen the Lifetime movies where the cheerleading squad plots to murder someone. Or rob a bank.

  • katyk

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

    I appreciate the “Stay Classy”- ness in your posts. You should also throw in some other Anchorman quotes to balance it out. Like, “I’m in a glass case of emotion!” or “Milk was a bad choice!” I wish I had the same commitment with my gravatar. I just like the ‘stache.

    I’m really interested to see how this case ends up. I have a feeling it could end up being much worse than we suspect or nothing at all. Don’t be fooled by the pretty face. I know we’ve all seen the Lifetime movies where the cheerleading squad plots to murder someone. Or rob a bank.

  • katyk

    Though almost every article in here is sad and often disgusting, a big reason people come to the site is to lighten the mood with some humor in their comments. That’s all I am intending with the “Stay Classy” comments…

    I appreciate the “Stay Classy”- ness in your posts. You should also throw in some other Anchorman quotes to balance it out. Like, “I’m in a glass case of emotion!” or “Milk was a bad choice!” I wish I had the same commitment with my gravatar. I just like the ‘stache.

    I’m really interested to see how this case ends up. I have a feeling it could end up being much worse than we suspect or nothing at all. Don’t be fooled by the pretty face. I know we’ve all seen the Lifetime movies where the cheerleading squad plots to murder someone. Or rob a bank.

  • Athena

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    As for this case, if the woman broke the law, send her to jail. I hope the judge uses discretion – If the activities were clearly consentual, that should be a consideration. The sexual activity in and of itself is not necessarily what’s damaging. Manipulation is, though.

    Incidentally, the double-standard is not as much male/female as it is attractive/unattractive. Many states have laws addressing whether or not the victim was manipulated into participation. Unattractive people are much more likely to have to manipulate than attractive ones do. Most of the women that make headlines for this kind of behavior are attractive, hence the generally shorter sentences. The ugly ones tend to get longer sentences. The same goes for men.

  • Athena

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    As for this case, if the woman broke the law, send her to jail. I hope the judge uses discretion – If the activities were clearly consentual, that should be a consideration. The sexual activity in and of itself is not necessarily what’s damaging. Manipulation is, though.

    Incidentally, the double-standard is not as much male/female as it is attractive/unattractive. Many states have laws addressing whether or not the victim was manipulated into participation. Unattractive people are much more likely to have to manipulate than attractive ones do. Most of the women that make headlines for this kind of behavior are attractive, hence the generally shorter sentences. The ugly ones tend to get longer sentences. The same goes for men.

  • Athena

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    As for this case, if the woman broke the law, send her to jail. I hope the judge uses discretion – If the activities were clearly consentual, that should be a consideration. The sexual activity in and of itself is not necessarily what’s damaging. Manipulation is, though.

    Incidentally, the double-standard is not as much male/female as it is attractive/unattractive. Many states have laws addressing whether or not the victim was manipulated into participation. Unattractive people are much more likely to have to manipulate than attractive ones do. Most of the women that make headlines for this kind of behavior are attractive, hence the generally shorter sentences. The ugly ones tend to get longer sentences. The same goes for men.

  • Athena

    What would you think of a 13-yr-old having “consentual” sex with a 7 or 8-yr-old?

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    As for this case, if the woman broke the law, send her to jail. I hope the judge uses discretion – If the activities were clearly consentual, that should be a consideration. The sexual activity in and of itself is not necessarily what’s damaging. Manipulation is, though.

    Incidentally, the double-standard is not as much male/female as it is attractive/unattractive. Many states have laws addressing whether or not the victim was manipulated into participation. Unattractive people are much more likely to have to manipulate than attractive ones do. Most of the women that make headlines for this kind of behavior are attractive, hence the generally shorter sentences. The ugly ones tend to get longer sentences. The same goes for men.

  • ScotchyScotch

    Agreed Katyk, we do need more Ron Burgundy quotes!

    I have already used “Pirate Hooker”…

    Next time, I will try to use “Whale Vagina” and “Cannonball!!!”…

    ;)

  • ScotchyScotch

    Agreed Katyk, we do need more Ron Burgundy quotes!

    I have already used “Pirate Hooker”…

    Next time, I will try to use “Whale Vagina” and “Cannonball!!!”…

    ;)

  • ScotchyScotch

    Agreed Katyk, we do need more Ron Burgundy quotes!

    I have already used “Pirate Hooker”…

    Next time, I will try to use “Whale Vagina” and “Cannonball!!!”…

    ;)

  • Deety

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    Yeah, me too. Not all 13 year olds are the same.

    When I was about 17, my best friend was 13, and she was a slut. She was in complete control of her relationships, many of which were with older men. Most of them were totally enamored with her.

    One of them flaked on her one time, and she dumped him. (She may have been 14 by this point, but he was definitely in his 20s.) He was pissed, and I had talked some shit (me and my big mouth), and he broke into my house and stole my Playstation. I called the cops, but they couldn’t prove it was him, so nothing could be done.

    This never occurred to either of us at the time, but we could have just had him arrested for sleeping with her. What if it had occurred to us, and we had followed through? She would have it on her conscience today that she labeled a man a child molester for the rest of his days, because we were pissed that he stole from me.

    Another of my friends slept with her when she was 14, and he was 19 or 20. He’s a good person, never hurt her or took advantage of her, and they remain friends to this day. I would trust him around my future kids, without reservation, and so would she.

    These things should be decided on a case-by-case basis.

  • Deety

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    Yeah, me too. Not all 13 year olds are the same.

    When I was about 17, my best friend was 13, and she was a slut. She was in complete control of her relationships, many of which were with older men. Most of them were totally enamored with her.

    One of them flaked on her one time, and she dumped him. (She may have been 14 by this point, but he was definitely in his 20s.) He was pissed, and I had talked some shit (me and my big mouth), and he broke into my house and stole my Playstation. I called the cops, but they couldn’t prove it was him, so nothing could be done.

    This never occurred to either of us at the time, but we could have just had him arrested for sleeping with her. What if it had occurred to us, and we had followed through? She would have it on her conscience today that she labeled a man a child molester for the rest of his days, because we were pissed that he stole from me.

    Another of my friends slept with her when she was 14, and he was 19 or 20. He’s a good person, never hurt her or took advantage of her, and they remain friends to this day. I would trust him around my future kids, without reservation, and so would she.

    These things should be decided on a case-by-case basis.

  • Deety

    I really wish judges were given latitude in these situations to make that determination and act accordingly.

    Yeah, me too. Not all 13 year olds are the same.

    When I was about 17, my best friend was 13, and she was a slut. She was in complete control of her relationships, many of which were with older men. Most of them were totally enamored with her.

    One of them flaked on her one time, and she dumped him. (She may have been 14 by this point, but he was definitely in his 20s.) He was pissed, and I had talked some shit (me and my big mouth), and he broke into my house and stole my Playstation. I called the cops, but they couldn’t prove it was him, so nothing could be done.

    This never occurred to either of us at the time, but we could have just had him arrested for sleeping with her. What if it had occurred to us, and we had followed through? She would have it on her conscience today that she labeled a man a child molester for the rest of his days, because we were pissed that he stole from me.

    Another of my friends slept with her when she was 14, and he was 19 or 20. He’s a good person, never hurt her or took advantage of her, and they remain friends to this day. I would trust him around my future kids, without reservation, and so would she.

    These things should be decided on a case-by-case basis.

  • Kathy

    Alright, Who is it?

    KatyK or Scotchyscotch?

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

  • Kathy

    Alright, Who is it?

    KatyK or Scotchyscotch?

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

  • Kathy

    Alright, Who is it?

    KatyK or Scotchyscotch?

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

  • Kathy

    Alright, Who is it?

    KatyK or Scotchyscotch?

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

  • Veronica

    But if you’re in junior high and some graduated senior who’s popular and a former cheerleader says that this is what all the cool older girls are doing….. see? It wouldn’t be that tough to coerce a little girl with stars in her eyes who wants to be able to tell her friends that she’s in tight with Stephanie, who “ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OMGWTFBBQ!!!1″, right?

    I think Scotchy was talking about experimentation between girls of the same age. I definitely see your point with regard to this particular case, though. I just smell a serious rat on this one. Although that means precisely nothing, so I guess we’ll just have to see.

    One thing, though, is that in my experience the most evil creatures on the face of the earth are 12 and 13-year-old girls. I can see them pulling some evil shit on an older girl just as they would one their own age, but without really understanding the consequences. They know about sex, but not the legal consequences of the accusations they make. Just a thought.

  • Veronica

    But if you’re in junior high and some graduated senior who’s popular and a former cheerleader says that this is what all the cool older girls are doing….. see? It wouldn’t be that tough to coerce a little girl with stars in her eyes who wants to be able to tell her friends that she’s in tight with Stephanie, who “ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OMGWTFBBQ!!!1″, right?

    I think Scotchy was talking about experimentation between girls of the same age. I definitely see your point with regard to this particular case, though. I just smell a serious rat on this one. Although that means precisely nothing, so I guess we’ll just have to see.

    One thing, though, is that in my experience the most evil creatures on the face of the earth are 12 and 13-year-old girls. I can see them pulling some evil shit on an older girl just as they would one their own age, but without really understanding the consequences. They know about sex, but not the legal consequences of the accusations they make. Just a thought.

  • Veronica

    But if you’re in junior high and some graduated senior who’s popular and a former cheerleader says that this is what all the cool older girls are doing….. see? It wouldn’t be that tough to coerce a little girl with stars in her eyes who wants to be able to tell her friends that she’s in tight with Stephanie, who “ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OMGWTFBBQ!!!1″, right?

    I think Scotchy was talking about experimentation between girls of the same age. I definitely see your point with regard to this particular case, though. I just smell a serious rat on this one. Although that means precisely nothing, so I guess we’ll just have to see.

    One thing, though, is that in my experience the most evil creatures on the face of the earth are 12 and 13-year-old girls. I can see them pulling some evil shit on an older girl just as they would one their own age, but without really understanding the consequences. They know about sex, but not the legal consequences of the accusations they make. Just a thought.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    oh, yeah, that was me.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    oh, yeah, that was me.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    oh, yeah, that was me.

  • Veronica

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I grew up in Tennessee. The type of girls you see flaunting that they’re “bi” or lesbian in high school there are mostly girls like, well, Tennessee’s own Buttercunt Watson.

  • Veronica

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I grew up in Tennessee. The type of girls you see flaunting that they’re “bi” or lesbian in high school there are mostly girls like, well, Tennessee’s own Buttercunt Watson.

  • Veronica

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I grew up in Tennessee. The type of girls you see flaunting that they’re “bi” or lesbian in high school there are mostly girls like, well, Tennessee’s own Buttercunt Watson.

  • Veronica

    I don’t know where you grew up, but in SoCal (at least) it’s “cool” and “shocking” to experiment…at least if you’re a hot li’l thang. If you’re butch, not so much. But there is a lot of that going on now. You see it flaunted everywhere.

    I grew up in Tennessee. The type of girls you see flaunting that they’re “bi” or lesbian in high school there are mostly girls like, well, Tennessee’s own Buttercunt Watson.

  • katyk

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    haha i don’t know what that means, but it wasn’t me. I wish it was. I swear, I have never quoted Anchorman on this site EVER until today. I swear! I do love lamp, though.

  • katyk

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    haha i don’t know what that means, but it wasn’t me. I wish it was. I swear, I have never quoted Anchorman on this site EVER until today. I swear! I do love lamp, though.

  • katyk

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    haha i don’t know what that means, but it wasn’t me. I wish it was. I swear, I have never quoted Anchorman on this site EVER until today. I swear! I do love lamp, though.

  • katyk

    Which one of you went into my shit stirring comments and posted “I love lamp” in the Aiken paper?

    haha i don’t know what that means, but it wasn’t me. I wish it was. I swear, I have never quoted Anchorman on this site EVER until today. I swear! I do love lamp, though.

  • Kathy

    Interesting random fact of the day.

    The Sheriff of Aiken County’s name is Michael Hunt.

    (tee hee)

  • Kathy

    Interesting random fact of the day.

    The Sheriff of Aiken County’s name is Michael Hunt.

    (tee hee)

  • Kathy

    Interesting random fact of the day.

    The Sheriff of Aiken County’s name is Michael Hunt.

    (tee hee)

  • MommyOfMason

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Who’s fessin up?

  • MommyOfMason

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Who’s fessin up?

  • MommyOfMason

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Who’s fessin up?

  • MommyOfMason

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Who’s fessin up?

  • dammitall

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

  • dammitall

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

  • dammitall

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

  • dammitall

    It doesn’t work like that. Biologically (and generally speaking), 20 year olds and 13 year olds are capable of procreation. A 7 or 8 year old is not. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. 13, in most cases, is not prepubescent. That means, while the people who sleep with them are doing something socially unacceptable, they are not “sick” in literal terms, like pedophiles are.

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

  • Veronica

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Probably some misogynist dickhead who likes to imagine that it’s his CHOICE that he gets no pussy, because it “tastes like fish.”

    Um, no, not if you shower daily!

    Off the subject, but do guys understand how unpleasant their balls smell after a long day? Or do they think that somehow only women are capable of having stinky genitals?

  • Veronica

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Probably some misogynist dickhead who likes to imagine that it’s his CHOICE that he gets no pussy, because it “tastes like fish.”

    Um, no, not if you shower daily!

    Off the subject, but do guys understand how unpleasant their balls smell after a long day? Or do they think that somehow only women are capable of having stinky genitals?

  • Veronica

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Probably some misogynist dickhead who likes to imagine that it’s his CHOICE that he gets no pussy, because it “tastes like fish.”

    Um, no, not if you shower daily!

    Off the subject, but do guys understand how unpleasant their balls smell after a long day? Or do they think that somehow only women are capable of having stinky genitals?

  • Veronica

    Oh my….someone wrote “when you kissed your GF, did it take like fish?” on her boyfriend’s “refridgerator magnet” board.

    Probably some misogynist dickhead who likes to imagine that it’s his CHOICE that he gets no pussy, because it “tastes like fish.”

    Um, no, not if you shower daily!

    Off the subject, but do guys understand how unpleasant their balls smell after a long day? Or do they think that somehow only women are capable of having stinky genitals?

  • Deety

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

    Hey, don’t discriminate, retards need lovin’ too! :-)

  • Deety

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

    Hey, don’t discriminate, retards need lovin’ too! :-)

  • Deety

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

    Hey, don’t discriminate, retards need lovin’ too! :-)

  • Deety

    Okay, what do you think of “normal” people who have consentual (I know I’m spelling that wrong) sex with retarded adults?

    Hey, don’t discriminate, retards need lovin’ too! :-)

  • Max The Cat

    But check out the comments on this article. This girl has some very serious defenders and they hate this 13 year old and her family. They also hate the paper for ruining her life since she hasn’t even been found guilty.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0…..lt-for-web
    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0814SexAbuse

    Wow! I had no idea things were so messed up down there. From what I can tell, and I read many of those comments and scanned most of the rest, they ran about 95% in Stephanie Kikland’s favor. And it appeared that vast majority of comments were from people with no connection to her or her family.
    On the contrary, False allegations of child rape and sexual abuse are a real problem in that area of SC, and the police seem to have a pretty low standard to trigger an arrest. None of this may mean anything in regards to this case, but it’s good to know.

    Thank you Kathy for the links to the Aiken, SC Newspaper.

  • Max The Cat

    But check out the comments on this article. This girl has some very serious defenders and they hate this 13 year old and her family. They also hate the paper for ruining her life since she hasn’t even been found guilty.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0…..lt-for-web
    http://www.aikenstandard.com/0814SexAbuse

    Wow! I had no idea things were so messed up down there. From what I can tell, and I read many of those comments and scanned most of the rest, they ran about 95% in Stephanie Kikland’s favor. And it appeared that vast majority of comments were from people with no connection to her or her family.
    On the contrary, False allegations of child rape and sexual abuse are a real problem in that area of SC, and the police seem to have a pretty low standard to trigger an arrest. None of this may mean anything in regards to this case, but it’s good to know.

    Thank you Kathy for the links to the Aiken, SC Newspaper.

  • ycufak

    To me a 7 or 8 year old is a child and may know of sex but def. doesn’t understand the actual consequences of having sex. A 13 year old does. They understand more than people want to give them credit for. Like what Pretty says, I am viewing this also from my life experiences and know how I thought and felt at that age. I, again, think this 13 year old has lied and now someone who is probably innocent will be saddled with this the rest of their life. MUCH younger than we did.

    Yes I agree, girls lie about their age to older boys all the time, why not to an older girl?

    I dont think age of consent laws should be 13 or 14 nationwide, as in a 14 yr old can give consent to have sex with a 45 yr old man………But I do think they should be closer to 16 nationwide, or have a larger gap in the “Romeo and Juliet” laws ages

    even tho this is a case involving 2 girls, many time a 17 or 18 yr old boy can be charged with statutory rape of a 13 or 14 year old girl and you know a number of these cases the girls are mature for their age, look 17, say she is,and everything is fine til they have a fight and she cries rape. I remember relentlessly pursuing a 19 year old neighbor at 14, luckily he had the sense to avoid me, but i am 36 now, so not just this generation of girls

    Parents would be better off being realistic about sex ed, birth control and STD testing than livig in this fantasy world that a 14 year old is utterly innocent and guiless and MUST have been raped, even if it comes out 6 monthes later!

  • ycufak

    To me a 7 or 8 year old is a child and may know of sex but def. doesn’t understand the actual consequences of having sex. A 13 year old does. They understand more than people want to give them credit for. Like what Pretty says, I am viewing this also from my life experiences and know how I thought and felt at that age. I, again, think this 13 year old has lied and now someone who is probably innocent will be saddled with this the rest of their life. MUCH younger than we did.

    Yes I agree, girls lie about their age to older boys all the time, why not to an older girl?

    I dont think age of consent laws should be 13 or 14 nationwide, as in a 14 yr old can give consent to have sex with a 45 yr old man………But I do think they should be closer to 16 nationwide, or have a larger gap in the “Romeo and Juliet” laws ages

    even tho this is a case involving 2 girls, many time a 17 or 18 yr old boy can be charged with statutory rape of a 13 or 14 year old girl and you know a number of these cases the girls are mature for their age, look 17, say she is,and everything is fine til they have a fight and she cries rape. I remember relentlessly pursuing a 19 year old neighbor at 14, luckily he had the sense to avoid me, but i am 36 now, so not just this generation of girls

    Parents would be better off being realistic about sex ed, birth control and STD testing than livig in this fantasy world that a 14 year old is utterly innocent and guiless and MUST have been raped, even if it comes out 6 monthes later!

  • ycufak

    >Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?
    You raise some good points. What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    My opinion, and I work somewhat in this field (Parole Officer) is that once a teen has gone thru puberty (13 or 14) up to age 20, the Romeo and Juliet laws should be in effect to allow consentual sex

    Do I think that is ideal? No of course not, in an ideal world kids would date for a couple years and lose their virginity together the night of Senior Prom. But I think those days ended in the late 50’s

    The mandatory sex offender registration for life makes this whole area 10 times greyer. I could stomach an 18 or 19 year old being jailed for 6 monthes for sex with a 13 or 14 year old, I suppose, but the lifetime registration as a RSO is absurd.

    Look up the case in Georgia of Genarlow Wilson and the outrageous suffering he and his family went thru for several years…….and he had consentual sex at 17 with a 15 year old girl!

    Please understand I am not advocating Pedophiles………these are not Pedophiles, a Pedophile is an adult who is only sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (usually age 3-11) and and Infantiphile is an adult sexually attracted to infants under 3. These are the people that need to be locked away and kept out of society because they are the true dangers, not teenagers 4,5,6 years apart who may not have the common sense of adults, but are physically matured and are sexual creatures, even if that upsets many parents

  • ycufak

    >Is a 13 year old girl mature enough to make sensible decisions regarding her sexuality – whether with a boy or girl?
    You raise some good points. What age difference separates “dating” from “molestation”???

    My opinion, and I work somewhat in this field (Parole Officer) is that once a teen has gone thru puberty (13 or 14) up to age 20, the Romeo and Juliet laws should be in effect to allow consentual sex

    Do I think that is ideal? No of course not, in an ideal world kids would date for a couple years and lose their virginity together the night of Senior Prom. But I think those days ended in the late 50’s

    The mandatory sex offender registration for life makes this whole area 10 times greyer. I could stomach an 18 or 19 year old being jailed for 6 monthes for sex with a 13 or 14 year old, I suppose, but the lifetime registration as a RSO is absurd.

    Look up the case in Georgia of Genarlow Wilson and the outrageous suffering he and his family went thru for several years…….and he had consentual sex at 17 with a 15 year old girl!

    Please understand I am not advocating Pedophiles………these are not Pedophiles, a Pedophile is an adult who is only sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (usually age 3-11) and and Infantiphile is an adult sexually attracted to infants under 3. These are the people that need to be locked away and kept out of society because they are the true dangers, not teenagers 4,5,6 years apart who may not have the common sense of adults, but are physically matured and are sexual creatures, even if that upsets many parents

  • selenabell

    u know i dont know bout this story here…cause even wehn it is a guy that is like 4 or 7 yrs older then the girl and she is in her teens,i just really honestly believe we know what were doing. I dont know my husband is almost 5 yrs older then me and i married him at 17 and i have been with him sexually since i was 12 and believe me i wanted to do it and he was not the only guy that i had,had sex with. But mayb that me and my friends and we just did it cause thats what we wanted. I mean i know people get raped ive been raped and sexually molested but never after i was 12. it was way b4 that age. than again mayb thats y i was having sex at 12 who knows

  • selenabell

    u know i dont know bout this story here…cause even wehn it is a guy that is like 4 or 7 yrs older then the girl and she is in her teens,i just really honestly believe we know what were doing. I dont know my husband is almost 5 yrs older then me and i married him at 17 and i have been with him sexually since i was 12 and believe me i wanted to do it and he was not the only guy that i had,had sex with. But mayb that me and my friends and we just did it cause thats what we wanted. I mean i know people get raped ive been raped and sexually molested but never after i was 12. it was way b4 that age. than again mayb thats y i was having sex at 12 who knows

  • ReecesMom

    The accuser has finally admitted to lying. Imagine that?

  • ReecesMom

    The accuser has finally admitted to lying. Imagine that?

  • TheImperialCerealKiller

    The accuser has finally admitted to lying. Imagine that?

    Link? Please and thank you.

  • TheImperialCerealKiller

    The accuser has finally admitted to lying. Imagine that?

    Link? Please and thank you.

  • gm OF 10

    Reeces… Where did you hear that, do you have a link?

  • gm OF 10

    Reeces… Where did you hear that, do you have a link?

  • jj999
  • jj999
  • penelopejo
  • penelopejo
  • TheImperialCerealKiller

    Thanks! Wasn’t sure if the accuser actually lied, or if they didn’t have enough evidence. Wow, and the first article mentions strangers on Myspace sending her nasty messages. Now what kind of asshat would ever do a thing like that? *Blush*

  • TheImperialCerealKiller

    Thanks! Wasn’t sure if the accuser actually lied, or if they didn’t have enough evidence. Wow, and the first article mentions strangers on Myspace sending her nasty messages. Now what kind of asshat would ever do a thing like that? *Blush*