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OrlandoOrlando reviewsOrlando reviews, FL (AugustAugust reviewsAugust reviews 8, 2008)  – The lies of Casey Anthony just keep on piling up like manure covering a gravesite, mixing with the corpse beneath to grow flowers that she hopes will obscure the ugly truth.  The truth is that Casey Anthony has almost certainly murdered her little girl.  Caylee Marie Anthony has been missing, by most accounts, since June 15.  Or June 6th, or 7th, or 9th, or 24th.  The problem begins there and just gets uglier, more convoluted.   But the release yesterday of a new search warrant in the Anthony case exposed many of the lies of Casey Anthony.  As each shovelful of bullshit is pulled away, authorities are getting closer and closer to finding Caylee. 

On Thursday, Orange CountyOrange County reviewsOrange County  reviews detectives released an affidavit for search and a search warrant from Wednesday’s search of the Anthony’s Orlando home.  The information in the affidavit and search warrant shed light on multiple lies told by Casey Anthony while her daughter Caylee has been missing.  Let’s just count them off, shall we?

1.  Casey Anthony told investigators she received a brief call from 2-year-old Caylee about noon July 15, the very day that Caylee was reported missing.  Casey’s cell-phone records were subpoenaed on July 17, and there was no such call made to Casey’s cell.   The two closest incoming calls came from Anthony Lazzaro at 12:13 a.m., and from someone named Kyle about 3:35 p.m.  I am pretty sure Kyle is not called Zanny.

2.  Casey said  that Caylee’s baby sitter, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, had a roommate named Raquel Farrell.  Farrell supposedly worked as a hostess at a T.G.I. Friday’sFriday reviewsFriday reviews. Investigators spoke with a T.G.I. Friday’s corporate representative who told them they had no employee by the name Anthony gave under any spelling.

3. Casey said she told Jeffrey Hopkins and Juliette Lewis about Caylee’s disappearance, both of whom supposedly worked with her at Kodak and/or Colorvision for Universal Studios. Detectives learned Kodak had no employment records for either person, that Colorvision didn’t either, and that in fact Casey never worked for Colorvision.

4.  Casey’s been faking emails.  Detectives obtained some of Anthony’s e-mails from Lee Anthony, who turned them over last week.   At least one email appeared to be from a “Thomas.Franck@events.universal.com”.  Thomas Franck does not apparently exist, has never apparently worked for Universal, and Universal doesn’t even have an “@events.universal.com” email server.   Casey was fired by Universal in April, 2006.

5. On July 22, a detective confirmed that the July 15 date on the photos and video of Caylee were correct.  Caylee had been with Cindy Anthony at the assisted living facility where Cindy’s father lives for a visit on that date, thereby throwing the June 7 and June 9 dates out the window.  Further, another witness named ChristineChristine reviewsChristine reviews verified to police early in the investigation that she had been for a walk with Casey and Caylee on June 13 or 14.  Casey appears to have deliberately muddied the timeline in her daughter’s disappearance.

Those are some pretty big whoppers for the mother of a missing child to tell.  Further, investigators have cleared Zenaida Gonzalez and have said that while multiple women with that name do exist, none of the ones in the Central Florida area appear to have Caylee or know her.  The Zenaida who looked at the Sawgrass Apartments on June 17 has been eliminated as a suspect in Caylee’s disappearance.

Another bombshell was dropped in the search warrant affidavit, when it was reported that Cindy Anthony had washed a pair of grey pinstriped dress pants belonging to Casey.  Laundry in and of itself is not such a big deal, but when that laundry was removed from Casey’s car before the car was impounded for investigation, it becomes a bigger deal.  Especially when Cindy told detectives that she had to wash the pants – because they “smelled like the car.”  The same car on which two different cadaver dogs alerted.  The same car which Cindy herself said “smells like there was a dead body in the damn car.”  The same car that Det. Yuri Melich entered, inhaled, and exited, stating that it obviously smelled of human decomposition.

The warrant for Wednesday’s search covered a number of items of clothing.  We know know that Casey likes pretty good mall clothes in the size 2-5 range and that she was leaving some of them in the home.  We also know that detectives took in supplies for luminol and blacklight testing, that they already have baseline DNA samples for both Caylee and Casey, and that they have hair and a stain sample from the trunk.  We don’t know yet whether the trunk samples match DNA for Caylee or Casey, but my money’s on yes.

I think it’s getting close, kids and demonites.  I think this case is starting to come together.

UPDATE 8/21/08 – Casey Anthony is out of jail today after bail bondsman Al Estes posted Casey’s $500,200 bond on Wednesday.  Casey will be staying with her parents at the family home in Orlando. The bond was executed by Estes, paid by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, and backed by Financial Casualty & Surety Co.   Anthony will have GPS monitoring and will have a member of the Padilla team staying with her 24/7 pending her trial.   Caylee Marie Anthony, 3, remains missing.

Leonard Padilla has said publicly that he expects to have Caylee home and safe within a week of Casey’s release, but Padilla, much like Cindy Anthony, says a lot of things.  Padilla has been highly critical of the Florida bail bonds industry for not stepping forward to bail Casey out before now.

Financial Casualty & Surety Inc., who is backing the bond, released this statement yesterday on behalf of senior veep Robert Sabo : “Personally, I believe that there is no punishment too severe for anyone that harms a child. However, I also believe in our Constitution and the vital function our industry serves in helping individuals with their constitutional rights.”

Casey Anthony is charged with felony child neglect and misdemeanor filing a false report by lying to police officers.

Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Fay is dumping torrential rain over Florida’s midsection, washing away evidence. No trace of Caylee alive has been seen, no trace of her dead body has been found save the smell of decomposition in the car and in the Anthony backyard.  Orange County says they are still waiting for the DNA evidence to come back from the car.  I really hope Yuri Melich has it up his sleeve and is waiting for Casey to bond out so he can arrest her again – but it’s starting to look a bit like Casey might have pulled off the perfect murder.

I hope Leonard Padilla is right and Caylee will be home soon… but I don’t think Leonard Padilla knows jack about cadaver dogs.

UPDATE 8/25/08 -Holy document releases, BatmanBatman reviewsBatman reviews!  Over 400 pages of case documents – interviews, affidavits, reports, and search warrants – were released to the public last night under Florida’s Sunshine Law.  Talk about trying your case in the media, well, wow.  We have the links to all the documents (thanks, WFTV!) here: Caylee Anthony Document Discussion.

UPDATE 8/27/08 – Preliminary testing on the air and physical evidence inside Casey Anthony’s car trunk has confirmed the presence of human decomposition. Air samples from the trunk were sent to the Body Farm at the University of Tennessee, and those test results confirm that a human body was decomposing in Casey’s trunk.   HairHair reviewsHair reviews from the trunk is consistent with Caylee’s, and it appears that the DNA from the trunk is also a probably match to Caylee.  In short:  if the preliminary reports are correct, Caylee Anthony is dead, and was dead in the trunk of her mother’s Pontiac.

Orange County officials are offering Casey a deal:  partial immunity if Casey admits that her daughter died in an accident.  If she takes the deal, information provided by Casey will not be used against her in prosecution. Casey has only 24 hours to accept the deal, and it is contingent upon Casey providing evidence that leads investigators to Caylee’s body.

Casey Anthony met with detectives at her attorney’s office along with her mother Cindy Anthony this afternoon.  Casey left the office at about 3:00 p.m. ET, shortly after investigators arrived to talk with her. Cindy and Jose Baez left the office at about 4:45. No statement has yet been offered about the results of that visit. We’ll keep you updated with more details as we get them.

Comments

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  1. 1purplemoon
    11:39 am on August 8th, 2008

    Why does Casey feel she has to lie about every thing in her life, her job, her friends, Locations, where her daughter is. How does a person get to this point in there life were there whole life is nothing but lie’s. Has no in her life confronted her in any lie that has been told and uncovered, say her parent’s. Did they never catch her in a lie, or did they just blow it off. No wonder not ONE friend has come forward to show support for Casey. Her family is starting to turn there backs on her hopefully, like everyone else she has encountered in her life. What a lonely pitiful life, when your whole life is nothing but lie’s. I hope she rots in jail, all alone, in a corner, chewing her nail’s pulling her hair out and eating it..

  2. Peeperann
    11:56 am on August 8th, 2008

    Damn, it’s good to be back!

    And yes, I agree it’s getting close. They have proven everything she has said is a lie. The parents are even changing their demeanor. She’s refusing to see the family now as she knows they are going to call her on it, Finally…..

    The evidence is piling up so fast, not even the family can deny it.

  3. Trish
    12:06 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Welcome back Demonites
    I sooo agree with your comment 1purplemoon. She has gotten away with lying her whole life obviously. BUT now she is lying to LE…she may finally have to pay.
    She doesn’t want to see her family especially Lee I think, because he will call her out (hoping anyway) on all her lies.
    God I can’t wait for her to be convicted of murdering poor Caylee.

  4. impqueen
    12:41 pm on August 8th, 2008

    And yes, I agree it’s getting close. They have proven everything she has said is a lie. The parents are even changing their demeanor. She’s refusing to see the family now as she knows they are going to call her on it, Finally…..

    I’ve noticed Cindy’s affect has changed a great deal. George’s behavior, not so much. Which makes me wonder what George has known and for how long.

    I also noticed that Lee Anthony has been helping investigators get information from Casey. False information, but he does at least seem to be trying.

  5. Athena
    12:46 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Thanks for such thorough updates, Imp. I’d never be able to keep up without them.

  6. TOMAR
    12:49 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I hope MADMOMMY is out there at the search sites to fill us in…..

  7. Mandella
    2:04 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I go back and forth so often, debating whether the family is actively involved in this scandalous cover-up, or whether they’re just completely in denial.

    With George’s most recent outburst, I am reminded of the Kübler-Ross model of the five stages of grief.

    Denial: Cindy

    Anger: George

    Bargaining: Lee

    Depression: ??

    Acceptance: Casey

    Seeing George like that makes me think that maybe the family isn’t as involved as it sometimes appears….But, my opinion is likely to change in the next 5 minutes again.

  8. kratesis
    2:40 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Casey Anthony’s attorneys filed a motion this morning for a rehearing in the 5th District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach. They are asking the court to reconsider the $500,200 bond that was set by Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-080808,0,7781773.story

    I think the attorney is as big of a whack job as the Anthony family!

  9. Peeperann
    3:20 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I’ve noticed Cindy’s affect has changed a great deal. George’s behavior, not so much. Which makes me wonder what George has known and for how long.

    I know Imp, but did you see George today? He lost it with reporter’s this morning.

    And did everyone hear that Casevil has requested a new bond hearing today?

  10. solange822001
    3:48 pm on August 8th, 2008

    It’s all coming undone. You can tell George is starting to come out of denial. I wonder how Lee feels about Casey refusing his visit? Hmmmmm

  11. solange822001
    3:50 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I had to laugh at Cindy saying that if they show George’s outburst, they won’t get any more interviews. YEAH, RIGHT BITCH LOL.

    Oh, and Cindy, no positive self-help book is going to help your daughter get away with what she did!

  12. Kitty
    4:37 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I had to laugh at Cindy saying that if they show George’s outburst, they won’t get any more interviews. YEAH, RIGHT BITCH LOL.

    This is right up there with Cindy’s “You think you know someone (ie the Media) until they stab you in the back” comment from the other day.

    As for George, of course he’s cool as a cucumber.. he was a cop, I’m sure his experience has taught him to keep all outward appearances calm/neutral. Of course we all know he knows _something_ he’s probly the majority of the brains behind all that’s going on– you know Crasey isn’t smart enough to come up with all of this on her own.

    Did anyone catch the interview last night on Anderson Cooper 360 with family friend/former babysitter Heather(?) Gagne?? I looked for links but I find myself retarded today.. no new information of course.. but you could see her trying to believe in the family.. and Anderson kept smacking her with questions she couldn’t really give straight answers to– maybe habitual lying is contagious?

    Welcome back fellow Demonites… /worship Morbid & Co.

  13. Peeperann
    4:45 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Welcome back fellow Demonites… /worship Morbid & Co.

    Yes, Morbid deserves a party with lots of alcohol and strippers!!

  14. sarabei
    4:46 pm on August 8th, 2008

    That poor baby….now it is just waiting for the confirmation of what we knew but didn’t want to believe! Thanks for all the sleuths who have kept us up to date and ahead of the news!!!

  15. captainhowdy
    4:46 pm on August 8th, 2008

    damn…her web of lies is crumbling around her. really incredible that she didn’t think they’d catch her out on this shit. what the fuck was she thinking?

    shit is looking grim. poor caylee. :o (

  16. testpattern
    4:49 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I think Ms. Gagne started out trying to be a stalwart friend and neighbor but she grew increasingly horrified as she realized how much she didn’t know about Casey and how much was unfolding that confused and disturbed her as much as everyone else. Last time I saw her on TV she had this kind of “OMG, my children have been around these people” look. Like everyone else caught up with the Anthony’s, she can’t tell what’s real and what isn’t anymore so she doesn’t know how to answer.

  17. Komak
    7:55 pm on August 8th, 2008

    http://www.wftv.com/news/17136493/detail.html

    Eyewitness News got details Friday of a working theory held by investigators that little Caylee may have drowned in the family swimming pool. A source close to the investigation revealed only to Channel 9 a working theory of the crime involving Caylee drowning and what may have happened next.

    Humm interesting..welcome back….missed everyone, but the house is clean!

  18. bogustoo
    9:43 pm on August 8th, 2008

    My friend and I were talking about this tonight.

    Personally, I think that Caylee drowned in the pool. George knew what happened and is just covering for Daddy’s Little Girl.

    I hope they all rot.

  19. Whodunit
    10:24 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Do ya’ll remember the case of the psycho that was married to a beautiful young woman and his whole life was a lie? He claimed to be in law school and if I remember correctly he claimed to have been accepted to an Ivy leauge school. They were preparing to move and his wife found out about the lies and (It’s believed) confronted him. Rather than fess up to the lies, he murdered her.

    I see Casey similarly….like a caged animal being confronted. Thank God she’s in jail!

  20. Sunnie
    10:38 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Do ya’ll remember the case of the psycho that was married to a beautiful young woman and his whole life was a lie? He claimed to be in law school and if I remember correctly he claimed to have been accepted to an Ivy leauge school. They were preparing to move and his wife found out about the lies and (It’s believed) confronted him. Rather than fess up to the lies, he murdered her.

    Yes yes yes..I remember that story..Mark and Lori Hacking. I used to compare my husband to him all the time, because at one point my husband would lie and pretend to go to work when in fact, he had been out of a job. (Cash advances had been taken out on credit cards to appear he had money) And why am I still married? Apparently Im just as much used to his lies just as the Anthony’s are used to Casey’s. Manipulative people can really take a hold of you, I know this firsthand.

  21. solange822001
    10:47 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Yes yes yes..I remember that story..Mark and Lori Hacking. I used to compare my husband to him all the time, because at one point my husband would lie and pretend to go to work when in fact, he had been out of a job. (Cash advances had been taken out on credit cards to appear he had money) And why am I still married? Apparently Im just as much used to his lies just as the Anthony’s are used to Casey’s. Manipulative people can really take a hold of you, I know this firsthand.

    I know from experience too. It took me so many years to see my ex (the father of my son) for what he was. I kept remembering all the nice things he did, and it was those memories that kept me believing in him despite all the evidence showing he was not the person I thought him to be. I see that a bit with the Anthony’s, like when they describe how their daughter would keep an extra car key in her pocket in case she locked Caylee in the car, etc. No matter how much evidence shows otherwise, they have these memories of their daughter being caring and loving with Caylee, and they can’t admit that it is the same person. Eventually, just like I realized, I believe they will have no choice but to realize that their daughter is probably a mixture of both those people. It is definitely probable to me that she has some sort of mental disease.

  22. solange822001
    10:59 pm on August 8th, 2008
  23. TOMAR
    11:29 pm on August 8th, 2008

    Eyewitness News got details Friday of a working theory held by investigators that little Caylee may have drowned in the family swimming pool. A source close to the investigation revealed only to Channel 9 a working theory of the crime involving Caylee drowning and what may have happened next.

    I read this too Komak, so sad. Poor Caylee.. why would she not have called 911 instead of calling her parents and trying to cover it up? I just dont get that.

    I read that Cindy said that Casey probably didnt know that Lee was coming to the jail and that is what happend this moring. I wish she knew how insane she sounds with all her lies.

  24. OneEyeOpen
    11:32 pm on August 8th, 2008

    KC is cracking. You can hear it in her voice. She’s going to break in the next 24 hours. The decrescendo of her mania is beginning. Can’t you feel the undertow?

  25. Chrissey
    11:40 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I was watching the video of George losing it with the media this morning. After he stormed back into the garage, Cindevil said something like “don’t make me lose my husband, too.” Anyone catch that or know what she was talking about?

  26. TOMAR
    11:40 pm on August 8th, 2008

    KC is cracking. You can hear it in her voice. She’s going to break in the next 24 hours. The decrescendo of her mania is beginning. Can’t you feel the undertow?

    Are you refering to Casey in the phone call from August 2 to her brother?

  27. Chrissey
    11:42 pm on August 8th, 2008

    KC is cracking. You can hear it in her voice. She’s going to break in the next 24 hours. The decrescendo of her mania is beginning. Can’t you feel the undertow?

    Tomorrow is Caylee’s third birthday. Hopefully, she’s starting to feel something for this darling baby girl. I really think she’s going to crack within the next week and spill her guts. (I hope)

  28. Whodunit
    11:44 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I’m not sure how to add a quote..sorry. :-( Sunnie and Solange I tend to agree with you. It’s easier to believe bullshit when your heart is involved. Sort of like a woman who is told her husband is cheating and given proof yet she still denies it and thinks of reasons that the proof is not true. Even going as far as to defend the cheating scum against those who know the truth. I think this is happening with the Anthonys.

    In the case I mentioned above the inlaws (girls parents) even supported him at first…because he had appeared to be so honest and truthful and such a loving son in law…

  29. captainhowdy
    11:48 pm on August 8th, 2008

    I read this too Komak, so sad. Poor Caylee.. why would she not have called 911 instead of calling her parents and trying to cover it up? I just dont get that.

    That’s what I was thinking. If it was an accident, why would she cover it up? And why the carefree party girl behavior afterward? Doesn’t really make sense to me.

  30. Chrissey
    11:59 pm on August 8th, 2008

    The accident in the pool theory is making the most sense to me right now. She put the ladder up on the side and they went for a little swim – or maybe she was just going to let Caylee play for a little while. Something happened and Caylee drowned. She pulled her out of the pool and laid her on the ground (where the first hit from the dogs was). Then the “flurry of phone calls” to her dad. When she couldn’t reach him, she borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and tried to bury her (that’s where the dirt in the trunk came from). She probably looked at the shallow grave and thought “this ain’t gonna work.”

    So, she backs the car in the drive and puts Caylee in the trunk. That’s probably about the time of the second “flurry of calls.” And, since she couldn’t get ahold of anyone on the phone, I’m guessing she’s thinking she doesn’t have a kid to worry about – - let’s go party! Left Caylee in the trunk until she started to smell bad. She dumps Caylee somewhere then ditches the car and goes partying some more.

    Sick bitch.

  31. swade
    12:03 am on August 9th, 2008

    Well I just want to say for the record I missed the hell out of you people!!!!!! Whooo hooo for DD up and running and a round of applause and curtsies to those responsible!!!

  32. swade
    12:23 am on August 9th, 2008

    I think she drowned her on purpose, and intended to call mom and dad hysterical that she found Caylee drowned in the pool. When she couldn’t reach anyone she started to panic thinking the pool drowning angle might not work and she would have to deal with her family and friends thinking she is a horrible person, which by granpa george’s own statement she wouldn’t even own up to the gas stealing because he said she was probably ashamed to tell them she didn’t have money for gas. If either one of them would have answered the phone “actress” casey would have come out hysterical that her baby had drowned. My thinking is she kept trying to call them and then realised if she called 911 now they might be able to tell how long the child had been dead…oops how am i gonna explain that one. So with no other real plan she backs the car in the garage and puts her sweet baby in the trunk. Probably mad as hell now because she doesn’t know what to do with the body. Goes borrows the shovel and then decides no way that is going to work, ( I don’t think she ever even tried to bury her in the yard) picks Caylee up and she probably did have dirt on her because she’s wet and casey probably pulled her out laid her on the ground initially to look like she tried to save her. I think she had her in the trunk for days and then it became apparent she was gonna have to do something because of the smell. She rode around rode around thinking trying to figure where she could dump her using up lots of gas. Breaks into the shed fills up rides around some more. Finally leaving her somewhere secluded or in a waterway somewhere. She drives back and of course leaves the car there at amscot instead of asking bfriend for gas money, she tells him its broken down, maybe he pulls up decides like a lot of guys do that he will take a look at it and see if he can figure out whats wrong. Casey doesn’t want him near the car because of the smell so in haste to keep him away she jumps out leaves her purse and says don’t worry about it my dads gonna have it picked up. Whew hmmm wow where did all that just come from… I think the time she fucked around trying to call mom and dad is what changed the direction of all of this…she knew it was to late to call 911.

  33. megan1991
    12:27 am on August 9th, 2008

    Did anyone catch the interview last night on Anderson Cooper 360 with family friend/former babysitter Heather(?) Gagne?? I looked for links but I find myself retarded today.. no new information of course.. but you could see her trying to believe in the family.. and Anderson kept smacking her with questions she couldn’t really give straight answers to– maybe habitual lying is contagious?

    Kitty, her name is Holly Gagne (former babysitter)

  34. megan1991
    12:35 am on August 9th, 2008

    Lee Anthony *REJECTED* by the horsefaced bitch!! LOL!

    It’s funny because before he went in he spent 10 min telling reporters what a good mother Casey is, and how he believes she’s telling the truth!

  35. selenabell
    12:37 am on August 9th, 2008

    we all know she killed her poor baby and her family knows it and they all are trying to cover it up. I hope someone some how gets the truth and they find her so she can have her proper burial. God bless Caylee

  36. swade
    12:40 am on August 9th, 2008

    It makes sense they are now saying the ladder was back up to the pool when they got home… in casey’s haste she forgot to move it. I think initially she put Caylee in the trunk after she realized the drowning thing was’nt going to work so on the off chance someone showed up at home she could say Caylee was at the sitters..I mean didn’t she already tell her dad earlier that day she was taking her to the sitter. She goes gets the shovel puts it in the trunk with Caylee and plans to take her and bury her somewhere…decides if it ever comes up she borrowed the shovel and had it for awhile it would look suspicious esp if mom and dad saw it so she decides to take it right back. If it was in the trunk with Caylee it would have gotten that odor of death on it.

  37. megan1991
    12:40 am on August 9th, 2008

    SWADE,

    I like your theory, but the shovel did have a purpose.
    Not to dig, and not to break the lock of the shed (the lock
    is still intact, and this is not doable anyway),
    but to pry open the doors of the shed to get the gas cans.

  38. swade
    12:43 am on August 9th, 2008

    the gas can’s werent stolen the same day…and from the way its been described she pretty much took the shovel right back. It was later that granpa g said the gas cans when missing.

  39. petrina
    12:46 am on August 9th, 2008

    gawd i told myself i wasnt gonna post here – just watch.

    some part of the pool theory could be feasible. it will be interesting to see how that turns out.

    i dont think George knew anything at first bc he commented to the cops that he thought that Casey was lying. Then i think he either figured it out or she or her lawyer told him the truth or a halftruth. because he has been the only one doing “what normal people would do when their granddaughter went missing” – only something is not quite right about it either.

    like he knows this is what people with missing kids do – so he will do it to throw off suspicion. but then he does tardo things too – like sit there and listen to his batshit crazy wife. and he does it gritting his teeth IMHO. like he is thinking “just stick with the program, george… OMG WHEN IS SHE GONNA SHUT UP! YOU ARE RUINING IT! calm down go to your happy place”.

    and cindy – well – she is drunk or on MAJOR medication. it is like looking at a re-run of Intervention.

    oh yeah – and a co-worker reminded me today – when one person is calm and everyone around them is going nuts about their behavior- that is what personality disorder looks like.

    ok – thats what i got – thanks.

  40. megan1991
    12:53 am on August 9th, 2008

    yeah, that’s what grandpa said, but i believe he’s lying about the timeline and what happened on the 24th. Mark furman found out for sure the shovel was borrowed on the 18th. I haven’t heard a reliable source of when it was returned. Caylee was mostly likely dead by the 17th or 18th.

    she left the car at amscot (a seedy check cashing place, known to have unsavory characters hanging around there) WITH the body in the trunk, expecting it would get stolen. Then, when the body was discovered, she would blame it on the guy who stole the car. She even *purposely* left her purse on the front seat *with the car keys in it* to make it easy to steal. But somehow it didn’t get stolen as she expected.
    When George went to pick up the car, he found the body and disposed of it (he’s former LE and knows how to do this).

  41. Harley_Tech
    12:59 am on August 9th, 2008

    I’m not sure how to add a quote..sorry.

    Place mouse over text you want to quote. Press down with forefinger until faint click is heard. Small text gnomes take over keyboard undetected and type text into comment box. This shit works like magic.

    If text gnomes have gotten carried away and copied too much text, edit as required.

    :D

    R

  42. swade
    1:01 am on August 9th, 2008

    .When George went to pick up the car, he found the body and disposed of it (he’s former LE and knows how to do this).

    So you think the car was towed to the impound lot with it smelling to high heaven and no one thought to look in the trunk with the keys right there in the car. And George knows how to dispose of a body but didn’t try and clean up the evidence in the trunk at all but just drove it on home reeking of his dead grand daughter and full of evidence?????? Have to disagree can’t see it happening that way. Why would george go to all that effort to effectively dispose of the body just to drive all the damaging evidence right to his front door?

  43. Harley_Tech
    1:02 am on August 9th, 2008

    (he’s former LE and knows how to do this).

    I’m not a cop, but I’m fairly sure “how to get rid of bodies” is not part of LEO training. Just sayin

    R

  44. megan1991
    1:02 am on August 9th, 2008

    we all know she killed her poor baby and her family knows it and they all are trying to cover it up. I hope someone some how gets the truth and they find her so she can have her proper burial. God bless Caylee

    Yup, and this was never more transparent than when cindy-bitch testified at the bond hearing. They know they lost a granddaughter. They just want to save Casey now (which is why I have no respect for the family either).

  45. swade
    1:05 am on August 9th, 2008

    I was thinking the same thing Harley, when did they start training cops on how to dispose of dead bodies, and if they do why havent they disposed of casey yet?

  46. megan1991
    1:12 am on August 9th, 2008

    So you think the car was towed to the impound lot with it smelling to high heaven and no one thought to look in the trunk with the keys right there in the car. And George knows how to dispose of a body but didn’t try and clean up the evidence in the trunk at all but just drove it on home reeking of his dead grand daughter and full of evidence?????? Have to disagree can’t see it happening that way. Why would george go to all that effort to effectively dispose of the body just to drive all the damaging evidence right to his front door?

    He tried to clean it. I remember an early report saying they found cleaning material in the trunk. He did a pretty good job, all the police found was a single hair, and and single drop of fluid. He couldn’t get all of it of course, but the smell was tolerable by the time he drove it home (it was *intolerable* when cindy-bitch dropped off george at the towing lot.). He did the best he could. George knew the police would find some traces, but all that proves is that the body was in the trunk at one time. But without the body, it’s very difficult to prove *who* put it there, or the cause of death.

  47. swade
    1:12 am on August 9th, 2008

    Shes gonna say it was an accidental drowning. the poor screwed up family is gonna believe it and her lawyers and going to try to have the charges reduced to some lesser charge. Sick as it makes me feel I can’t see how they are going to get a murder charge out of this. She will say she flipped out couldnt get hold of them did’nt know what to do blah blah fucking blah. Had some kind of melt down went and buried her child and then tried to convince herself someone had her baby. Hopefully if that start that day with the first call to her parents and go from there till when the calls stop as a point of when she might have drowned it will show she sat there all that time chain smoking while her baby was dead. So if she did’nt do it on purpose why did she sit there all that time and do nothing at all…oh thats right cindy she was overwhelmed and lost it…oh they will back her up…maybe george won’t and he will probably leave crazy c when this is all said and done.

  48. megan1991
    1:14 am on August 9th, 2008

    I’m not a cop, but I’m fairly sure “how to get rid of bodies” is not part of LEO training. Just sayin

    How to *find* bodies is part of LEO training. But it’s not hard to reverse that knowledge and apply it to hiding a body.

  49. megan1991
    1:18 am on August 9th, 2008

    Sick as it makes me feel I can’t see how they are going to get a murder charge out of this.

    It’s difficult to convict without a body, but not impossible.
    It was done with scott petersen and hans reiser.

  50. swade
    1:20 am on August 9th, 2008

    He tried to clean it. I remember an early report saying they found cleaning material in the trunk. He did a pretty good job, all the police found was a single hair, and and single drop of fluid. at the He did the best he could. George knew the police would find some traces, but all that proves is that the body was in the trunk at one time. But without the body, it’s very difficult to prove *who* put it there, or the cause of death.

    Where did you hear this because everything I have heard has never specified it was a single drop of fluid, also there was an empty box of laundry detergent in a bag with pizza, and there was also dirt and I have not heard a direct quote on just how many hairs where found the media has said could have been a strand or strands. It could not have been cleaned but so good because the detectives clearly noted a strong smell of decomposition when they looked at the car and have never said there was any strong odor of cleaning products.

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