Dana Poindexter Failed Danieal Kelly

Great article Lizard.

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

Great article Lizard.

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

Great article Lizard.

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

Better late than never– at least those bastards won’t be available for encore performances.

Thank you Lizard for getting this onto the front page!

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

Better late than never– at least those bastards won’t be available for encore performances.

Thank you Lizard for getting this onto the front page!

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

Better late than never– at least those bastards won’t be available for encore performances.

Thank you Lizard for getting this onto the front page!

Damn Lizard, I dont know what to say. You did great research by the way. Poor beautiful little girl. I guess we have our answer to the question we always ask in these cases: “Why wasn’t anything done by Department of Children before?” What went wrong here???? How can so many incompetent people work for one place? One very IMPORTANT place??? Most of us could never get our boss to give us a break, much less cover for us like this, what the fuck is going on here????? Is this what happens when you have so many government run agencies and programs? Are they so doomed to fail this miserably???

Damn Lizard, I dont know what to say. You did great research by the way. Poor beautiful little girl. I guess we have our answer to the question we always ask in these cases: “Why wasn’t anything done by Department of Children before?” What went wrong here???? How can so many incompetent people work for one place? One very IMPORTANT place??? Most of us could never get our boss to give us a break, much less cover for us like this, what the fuck is going on here????? Is this what happens when you have so many government run agencies and programs? Are they so doomed to fail this miserably???

Damn Lizard, I dont know what to say. You did great research by the way. Poor beautiful little girl. I guess we have our answer to the question we always ask in these cases: “Why wasn’t anything done by Department of Children before?” What went wrong here???? How can so many incompetent people work for one place? One very IMPORTANT place??? Most of us could never get our boss to give us a break, much less cover for us like this, what the fuck is going on here????? Is this what happens when you have so many government run agencies and programs? Are they so doomed to fail this miserably???

Damn Lizard, I dont know what to say. You did great research by the way. Poor beautiful little girl. I guess we have our answer to the question we always ask in these cases: “Why wasn’t anything done by Department of Children before?” What went wrong here???? How can so many incompetent people work for one place? One very IMPORTANT place??? Most of us could never get our boss to give us a break, much less cover for us like this, what the fuck is going on here????? Is this what happens when you have so many government run agencies and programs? Are they so doomed to fail this miserably???

I hope the mom fries. How could you not want to touch your own child, no matter what. This case makes me sick.

I hope the mom fries. How could you not want to touch your own child, no matter what. This case makes me sick.

Although very very graphic, I think we should all look at the picture on page 18 of the report. It might give us a glimpse, a sliver, of what this poor little girl went through.

Although very very graphic, I think we should all look at the picture on page 18 of the report. It might give us a glimpse, a sliver, of what this poor little girl went through.

it feels great to see people held responsible…even if it is too late.

And this why when I picking a career and I wanted to become a social worker, all my sisters sat me down and convinced me not to. My oldest sister was like, “Tracey, you’d want to bring every child home with you and you’d end up in prison for murder”.

As they knew i’d never be able to leave a child like that, i’d probably kill the parents and everyone else that was to blame too. They told me my heart was too soft when it came to children.

I still regret that decision, but at least I can help by voluteering at at women and children shelters, but still, it’s not the same…..

God bless this girl, and yes I believe she is “home now”….

I read the report and saw the pictures. I am disgusted and crying at my desk. HOW THE FUCK CAN THESE ASSHOLES LIVE WITH THEMSELVES? Not ONE person saw that she was in danger???? That corpose looks like a 3 week old corpse, not a “new” one. SHE WAS DECOMPOSING WHILE ALIVE!

I am completely disgusted.

I read the report and saw the pictures. I am disgusted and crying at my desk. HOW THE FUCK CAN THESE ASSHOLES LIVE WITH THEMSELVES? Not ONE person saw that she was in danger???? That corpose looks like a 3 week old corpse, not a “new” one. SHE WAS DECOMPOSING WHILE ALIVE!

I am completely disgusted.

I read the report and saw the pictures. I am disgusted and crying at my desk. HOW THE FUCK CAN THESE ASSHOLES LIVE WITH THEMSELVES? Not ONE person saw that she was in danger???? That corpose looks like a 3 week old corpse, not a “new” one. SHE WAS DECOMPOSING WHILE ALIVE!

I am completely disgusted.

And this why when I picking a career and I wanted to become a social worker, all my sisters sat me down and convinced me not to. My oldest sister was like, “Tracey, you’d want to bring every child home with you and you’d end up in prison for murder”.

PeeperAnn, I know what you mean.. when I informed my husband I was going back to school, to become a social worker.. He was apprehensive… “Honey, you’ll kill someone!” to which I answered, “if I do, you’ll know they deserved it.”
This website and stories like this are motivation for me.. because it sure won’t be the paycheck.

I sure hope that the state prosecutors are on the ball with this — and that full justice is served.

And this why when I picking a career and I wanted to become a social worker, all my sisters sat me down and convinced me not to. My oldest sister was like, “Tracey, you’d want to bring every child home with you and you’d end up in prison for murder”.

PeeperAnn, I know what you mean.. when I informed my husband I was going back to school, to become a social worker.. He was apprehensive… “Honey, you’ll kill someone!” to which I answered, “if I do, you’ll know they deserved it.”
This website and stories like this are motivation for me.. because it sure won’t be the paycheck.

I sure hope that the state prosecutors are on the ball with this — and that full justice is served.

How totally fucking infuriating. My jaw dropped more and more as I read this. The magnitude of this clusterfuck of incompetence, neglect, and EVIL, is just staggering.

Poor Danieal. Not that it’s much consolation, really, but at least you are no longer in pain.

How totally fucking infuriating. My jaw dropped more and more as I read this. The magnitude of this clusterfuck of incompetence, neglect, and EVIL, is just staggering.

Poor Danieal. Not that it’s much consolation, really, but at least you are no longer in pain.

Mother’s friend Andrea Miles, 18 (perjury). She lied to the grand jury under oath … When asked about the condition of the child’s back, she said, “Like her back, like my back. It looked like a back. It didn’t have no sores, nothing. Her back was clear.”

Look at the language this woman uses. It’s like the “Dick and Jane” books I read when I was six. “Like her back. Like my back. It looked like a back.” This child’s whole social network seems to be of the lowest mental order.

We need to open up some old-fashioned orphanages and give up on this family-reunification junk. That little girl could have grown up safely and with care in a permanent living situation instead of being passed back and forth between ignorant parents who only wanted her check.

And as for MultEthnic Behavioral Health — the name screams scam. It reeks of “give me money for having a politically correct title.”

I lived in Philly many years and ran across many of the type in this story — people who care only for their personal comfort and profit and feel that life owes them an easy living.

And may God damn every one of them.

Mother’s friend Andrea Miles, 18 (perjury). She lied to the grand jury under oath … When asked about the condition of the child’s back, she said, “Like her back, like my back. It looked like a back. It didn’t have no sores, nothing. Her back was clear.”

Look at the language this woman uses. It’s like the “Dick and Jane” books I read when I was six. “Like her back. Like my back. It looked like a back.” This child’s whole social network seems to be of the lowest mental order.

We need to open up some old-fashioned orphanages and give up on this family-reunification junk. That little girl could have grown up safely and with care in a permanent living situation instead of being passed back and forth between ignorant parents who only wanted her check.

And as for MultEthnic Behavioral Health — the name screams scam. It reeks of “give me money for having a politically correct title.”

I lived in Philly many years and ran across many of the type in this story — people who care only for their personal comfort and profit and feel that life owes them an easy living.

And may God damn every one of them.

Mother’s friend Andrea Miles, 18 (perjury). She lied to the grand jury under oath … When asked about the condition of the child’s back, she said, “Like her back, like my back. It looked like a back. It didn’t have no sores, nothing. Her back was clear.”

Look at the language this woman uses. It’s like the “Dick and Jane” books I read when I was six. “Like her back. Like my back. It looked like a back.” This child’s whole social network seems to be of the lowest mental order.

We need to open up some old-fashioned orphanages and give up on this family-reunification junk. That little girl could have grown up safely and with care in a permanent living situation instead of being passed back and forth between ignorant parents who only wanted her check.

And as for MultEthnic Behavioral Health — the name screams scam. It reeks of “give me money for having a politically correct title.”

I lived in Philly many years and ran across many of the type in this story — people who care only for their personal comfort and profit and feel that life owes them an easy living.

And may God damn every one of them.

There wasn’t room in the story to highlight the people who tried to do right by Danieal. There aren’t many of them, but they exist. Between 1997 and 2001, Danieal lived what was the closest thing she’d ever see to a “normal” life, thanks to his father’s live-in girlfriend at the time Kathleen John. She went to school, she got medical care, she got physical therapy…and she thrived. She spoke beautifully, sang beautifully, could feed herself, and could stand with the help of leg braces. All because Kathleen John sometimes found it in herself to get Danieal ready and to school, to the doctor, and to therapy.

Although very very graphic, I think we should all look at the picture on page 18 of the report.

SoUncool commented in the forums, and I agree–the barrettes in her hair will just kill you.

Between 1997 and 2001, Danieal lived what was the closest thing she’d ever see to a “normal” life, thanks to his father’s live-in girlfriend at the time Kathleen John … All because Kathleen John sometimes found it in herself to get Danieal ready and to school, to the doctor, and to therapy.

And that’s not enough — just can’t push these kids into their horrible personal world and hope that BabyDaddy will hook up with a decent woman. I am not niave enough to believe that an institution can substitute for a loving home, but at least it’s ONE place to visit and monitor instead 18 or 28 or 58 families’ constantly shifting locations. We need to realize that the old ways had their faults but were not all bad and perhaps could be made to work well — orphanages, long-term residential care for the mentally ill, work houses (which could be job training houses), and so forth instead of tossing frail people out into the world of predators and the uncaring.

I saw too many homeless die in Philadelphia to care much about their “right” to sign themselves out of treatment and into filth, drunken helplessness, and panhandling until they died on a grate in winter. It got to be two or three homeless panhandlers on every block. I did what I could, but it was nothing compared to what was needed — a place to live, a place that forced them to stop drinking and take their medications, a place that didn’t patch them up and toss them out.

Well, it must be soapbox day for me. Sorry.

Between 1997 and 2001, Danieal lived what was the closest thing she’d ever see to a “normal” life, thanks to his father’s live-in girlfriend at the time Kathleen John … All because Kathleen John sometimes found it in herself to get Danieal ready and to school, to the doctor, and to therapy.

And that’s not enough — just can’t push these kids into their horrible personal world and hope that BabyDaddy will hook up with a decent woman. I am not niave enough to believe that an institution can substitute for a loving home, but at least it’s ONE place to visit and monitor instead 18 or 28 or 58 families’ constantly shifting locations. We need to realize that the old ways had their faults but were not all bad and perhaps could be made to work well — orphanages, long-term residential care for the mentally ill, work houses (which could be job training houses), and so forth instead of tossing frail people out into the world of predators and the uncaring.

I saw too many homeless die in Philadelphia to care much about their “right” to sign themselves out of treatment and into filth, drunken helplessness, and panhandling until they died on a grate in winter. It got to be two or three homeless panhandlers on every block. I did what I could, but it was nothing compared to what was needed — a place to live, a place that forced them to stop drinking and take their medications, a place that didn’t patch them up and toss them out.

Well, it must be soapbox day for me. Sorry.

Between 1997 and 2001, Danieal lived what was the closest thing she’d ever see to a “normal” life, thanks to his father’s live-in girlfriend at the time Kathleen John … All because Kathleen John sometimes found it in herself to get Danieal ready and to school, to the doctor, and to therapy.

And that’s not enough — just can’t push these kids into their horrible personal world and hope that BabyDaddy will hook up with a decent woman. I am not niave enough to believe that an institution can substitute for a loving home, but at least it’s ONE place to visit and monitor instead 18 or 28 or 58 families’ constantly shifting locations. We need to realize that the old ways had their faults but were not all bad and perhaps could be made to work well — orphanages, long-term residential care for the mentally ill, work houses (which could be job training houses), and so forth instead of tossing frail people out into the world of predators and the uncaring.

I saw too many homeless die in Philadelphia to care much about their “right” to sign themselves out of treatment and into filth, drunken helplessness, and panhandling until they died on a grate in winter. It got to be two or three homeless panhandlers on every block. I did what I could, but it was nothing compared to what was needed — a place to live, a place that forced them to stop drinking and take their medications, a place that didn’t patch them up and toss them out.

Well, it must be soapbox day for me. Sorry.

Between 1997 and 2001, Danieal lived what was the closest thing she’d ever see to a “normal” life, thanks to his father’s live-in girlfriend at the time Kathleen John … All because Kathleen John sometimes found it in herself to get Danieal ready and to school, to the doctor, and to therapy.

And that’s not enough — just can’t push these kids into their horrible personal world and hope that BabyDaddy will hook up with a decent woman. I am not niave enough to believe that an institution can substitute for a loving home, but at least it’s ONE place to visit and monitor instead 18 or 28 or 58 families’ constantly shifting locations. We need to realize that the old ways had their faults but were not all bad and perhaps could be made to work well — orphanages, long-term residential care for the mentally ill, work houses (which could be job training houses), and so forth instead of tossing frail people out into the world of predators and the uncaring.

I saw too many homeless die in Philadelphia to care much about their “right” to sign themselves out of treatment and into filth, drunken helplessness, and panhandling until they died on a grate in winter. It got to be two or three homeless panhandlers on every block. I did what I could, but it was nothing compared to what was needed — a place to live, a place that forced them to stop drinking and take their medications, a place that didn’t patch them up and toss them out.

Well, it must be soapbox day for me. Sorry.

I could hardly stand to read the entire report. The picture after death left me feeling ill and terribly sad for this innocent young child who suffered in such a heinous way.
As a mother I cannot even begin to understand how you just decide to let your child suffer. The mother most certainly deserves to die a slow, horrible death. I do believe all of these bastards will get their due 10X fold. Hell is waiting and till then, just maybe, they’ll get some of it her on earth in the filthy little cells they will call home.

Rest in peace sweet Danieal

I could hardly stand to read the entire report. The picture after death left me feeling ill and terribly sad for this innocent young child who suffered in such a heinous way.
As a mother I cannot even begin to understand how you just decide to let your child suffer. The mother most certainly deserves to die a slow, horrible death. I do believe all of these bastards will get their due 10X fold. Hell is waiting and till then, just maybe, they’ll get some of it her on earth in the filthy little cells they will call home.

Rest in peace sweet Danieal

And that’s not enough — just can’t push these kids into their horrible personal world and hope that BabyDaddy will hook up with a decent woman. I am not niave enough to believe that an institution can substitute for a loving home, but at least it’s ONE place to visit and monitor instead 18 or 28 or 58 families’ constantly shifting locations. We need to realize that the old ways had their faults but were not all bad and perhaps could be made to work well — orphanages, long-term residential care for the mentally ill, work houses (which could be job training houses), and so forth instead of tossing frail people out into the world of predators and the uncaring.

What gets me, especially after reading the report, is that if these people had done their jobs, it DOES work. I am shocked to hear that these social services people aren’t as overworked as they want people to think. Like the report states, they are just the decision makers. They only have 18 families per caseworker, and 5 caseworkers per supervisor. According to this, they are well staffed and damn well funded. It makes me angry that I work my ass off, and pay up the ass in taxes, so that these sloths than get my paycheck for doing NOTHING. Think of all the stories we hear about Department of Children failing a child, and we are quick to brush it off as people who are overworked and can’t attend to everyone. It is obviously a farse. Why isn’t anyone doing anything??? How can these people get away with this??????

And that’s not enough — just can’t push these kids into their horrible personal world and hope that BabyDaddy will hook up with a decent woman. I am not niave enough to believe that an institution can substitute for a loving home, but at least it’s ONE place to visit and monitor instead 18 or 28 or 58 families’ constantly shifting locations. We need to realize that the old ways had their faults but were not all bad and perhaps could be made to work well — orphanages, long-term residential care for the mentally ill, work houses (which could be job training houses), and so forth instead of tossing frail people out into the world of predators and the uncaring.

What gets me, especially after reading the report, is that if these people had done their jobs, it DOES work. I am shocked to hear that these social services people aren’t as overworked as they want people to think. Like the report states, they are just the decision makers. They only have 18 families per caseworker, and 5 caseworkers per supervisor. According to this, they are well staffed and damn well funded. It makes me angry that I work my ass off, and pay up the ass in taxes, so that these sloths than get my paycheck for doing NOTHING. Think of all the stories we hear about Department of Children failing a child, and we are quick to brush it off as people who are overworked and can’t attend to everyone. It is obviously a farse. Why isn’t anyone doing anything??? How can these people get away with this??????

I can’t imagine how much pain this little girl was in. I too, had a real hard time reading the report. And the audacity of the mother to ask if she is okay–so sad

I can’t imagine how much pain this little girl was in. I too, had a real hard time reading the report. And the audacity of the mother to ask if she is okay–so sad

I can’t imagine how much pain this little girl was in. I too, had a real hard time reading the report. And the audacity of the mother to ask if she is okay–so sad

And this why when I picking a career and I wanted to become a social worker, all my sisters sat me down and convinced me not to. My oldest sister was like, “Tracey, you’d want to bring every child home with you and you’d end up in prison for murder”.

Me too, PeeperAnn! My mom told me the same thing during my college orientation, “Honey, you can’t cry everytime you see the news and be a Social Worker.” Well, I was young then, I’d rather kick their stupid asses now, than shed a tear!!!

And this why when I picking a career and I wanted to become a social worker, all my sisters sat me down and convinced me not to. My oldest sister was like, “Tracey, you’d want to bring every child home with you and you’d end up in prison for murder”.

Me too, PeeperAnn! My mom told me the same thing during my college orientation, “Honey, you can’t cry everytime you see the news and be a Social Worker.” Well, I was young then, I’d rather kick their stupid asses now, than shed a tear!!!

Although I hate to read stories like this, this little girl is a martyr, bravely suffering through unimaginable hell with the result of blowing the fucking TOP off these social “services” that often act like no more than leeches, sucking off the generous funding provided to them by tax payers.

In every jurisdiction across the country, 3rd party audits should be conducted every quarter, at the very least. I don’t care how much it costs, and I’m a fucking libertarian. How much MORE does it cost when the city, county, state gets sued for failing these children?

I hope all these people are found guilty and sentenced to the full extent of the law. I only wish that the mother’s friends had been charged with something more significant than perjury.

It’s absolutely disgusting to see how wide this puddle of depravity spread. I hope these people lose everything that was ever dear to them.

Although I hate to read stories like this, this little girl is a martyr, bravely suffering through unimaginable hell with the result of blowing the fucking TOP off these social “services” that often act like no more than leeches, sucking off the generous funding provided to them by tax payers.

In every jurisdiction across the country, 3rd party audits should be conducted every quarter, at the very least. I don’t care how much it costs, and I’m a fucking libertarian. How much MORE does it cost when the city, county, state gets sued for failing these children?

I hope all these people are found guilty and sentenced to the full extent of the law. I only wish that the mother’s friends had been charged with something more significant than perjury.

It’s absolutely disgusting to see how wide this puddle of depravity spread. I hope these people lose everything that was ever dear to them.

Although I hate to read stories like this, this little girl is a martyr, bravely suffering through unimaginable hell with the result of blowing the fucking TOP off these social “services” that often act like no more than leeches, sucking off the generous funding provided to them by tax payers.

In every jurisdiction across the country, 3rd party audits should be conducted every quarter, at the very least. I don’t care how much it costs, and I’m a fucking libertarian. How much MORE does it cost when the city, county, state gets sued for failing these children?

I hope all these people are found guilty and sentenced to the full extent of the law. I only wish that the mother’s friends had been charged with something more significant than perjury.

It’s absolutely disgusting to see how wide this puddle of depravity spread. I hope these people lose everything that was ever dear to them.

OMG! It looks like her flesh was stuck to the mattress.

OMG! It looks like her flesh was stuck to the mattress.

OMG! It looks like her flesh was stuck to the mattress.

OMG! It looks like her flesh was stuck to the mattress.

Given my experience working for a government agency this whole story doesn’t surprise me one bit. Government entities are set up for failure because the are not run like private enterprises. By private enterprise I mean subject to termination as consequence for incompetence or laziness. Once you make your probation in a gov’t agency you could (just short of) kill someone and keep your job. Unions have set contracts in place that make it impossible to terminate someone without a lengthy costly process. Therefore, if you look at the workforce in public services (i.e. Dana fuckin retard poindexter and his supervisors) you will see that they are just system riding scum collecting a paycheck.

****NOTE *** Not to piss of any public servants*** I know some good hard working people but they are FEW and far between.

If the Gov’t services were run sans union and more like a private firm that forces you to do your job or hit the bricks, this kind of situation could be avoided.

Given my experience working for a government agency this whole story doesn’t surprise me one bit. Government entities are set up for failure because the are not run like private enterprises. By private enterprise I mean subject to termination as consequence for incompetence or laziness. Once you make your probation in a gov’t agency you could (just short of) kill someone and keep your job. Unions have set contracts in place that make it impossible to terminate someone without a lengthy costly process. Therefore, if you look at the workforce in public services (i.e. Dana fuckin retard poindexter and his supervisors) you will see that they are just system riding scum collecting a paycheck.

****NOTE *** Not to piss of any public servants*** I know some good hard working people but they are FEW and far between.

If the Gov’t services were run sans union and more like a private firm that forces you to do your job or hit the bricks, this kind of situation could be avoided.

If the Gov’t services were run sans union and more like a private firm that forces you to do your job or hit the bricks, this kind of situation could be avoided.

Yeah, I’d like to have a conversation with this guy:

Kahim Boles, an official for the union that represents DHS rank-and-file workers, said there is a disciplinary process at the agency.

“They should not be going to jail for the work they do,” said Boles, president of District Council 47, Local 2187, of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

What about the work they don’t do, Mr. Boles? Should they go to jail for that?

If the Gov’t services were run sans union and more like a private firm that forces you to do your job or hit the bricks, this kind of situation could be avoided.

Yeah, I’d like to have a conversation with this guy:

Kahim Boles, an official for the union that represents DHS rank-and-file workers, said there is a disciplinary process at the agency.

“They should not be going to jail for the work they do,” said Boles, president of District Council 47, Local 2187, of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

What about the work they don’t do, Mr. Boles? Should they go to jail for that?

I’m totally with you, Solange. I started this story and aborted it, because I didn’t think I could write it without it being way too long. I thought maybe someone else should try to tackle it it. But I couldn’t stop thinking about her, about her potential, about her few short years of getting at least some of what she needed, and about her completely senseless suffering. There’s so many people I just want to stomp to death. [insert scream of frustration and grief]

I’m so glad you wrote it. I had NO idea that any of this had gone on until I read this. I am shocked that this hasn’t got nationwide attention. Unless it has and I missed it.

I just went to a doctor’s appointment a couple of hours ago, and while I was driving, listening to music, the sun shining, I started crying, because I was thinking all these years that the rest of us were living our lives, Danieal was dying and suffering, all alone, in a dark hot room. I admit reading all these stories affect me, but this is the only one that has made me actually cry as I thought about it later in the day. It’s not fair, it’s just not fair

Solange, I keep thinking that same thing. And what’s even sadder is there are children suffering like that somewhere in this world right now too. Just heart breaking and devastating. I don’t know how any of these people can live with themselves.

I haven’t worked up the courage to read the full report yet. I guess I am a little too scared of what I’ll see and read. The lack of compassion from all angles in this case is just overwhelming and makes me sick to my stomach.

DHS has suspended 7 more employees: Pamela Mayo, Children and Youth Division Operations Director; Wesley Brown, a social service program director; Janice Walker, a supervisor; Martha Poller; Shawn Davis, a supervisor; Ingrid Hawke, a social work supervisor, and Valerie Mond, a supervisor.

Lizard, any chance of us getting some mugshots of these wastes of space? Especially the mother and father.

Please, please read the report. I think every single person should read that report. This is the ending:

Otherwise, it is only a matter of time before the next such tragedy occurs.
Next time, as before, photographs of a child full of life and promise and hope will present a stark contrast with the gruesome photographs from the city morgue. Next time, as before, a cast of characters will offer excuses for unconscionable neglect and unspeakable mistreatment. Next time, as before, investigations will be mounted, reports prepared, and reforms promised, and the public outcry will then recede until the next death occurs.
All this will happen, with virtual certainty, unless the story of a disabled 14-year-old who perished alone of starvation and neglect in a filthy bedroom in West Philadelphia does more than shock the community’s conscience, unless it also provokes sufficient determination to enforce from now on a simple pledge: no more deaths like Danieal’s. No more.

Please, please read the report. I think every single person should read that report. This is the ending:

Otherwise, it is only a matter of time before the next such tragedy occurs.
Next time, as before, photographs of a child full of life and promise and hope will present a stark contrast with the gruesome photographs from the city morgue. Next time, as before, a cast of characters will offer excuses for unconscionable neglect and unspeakable mistreatment. Next time, as before, investigations will be mounted, reports prepared, and reforms promised, and the public outcry will then recede until the next death occurs.
All this will happen, with virtual certainty, unless the story of a disabled 14-year-old who perished alone of starvation and neglect in a filthy bedroom in West Philadelphia does more than shock the community’s conscience, unless it also provokes sufficient determination to enforce from now on a simple pledge: no more deaths like Danieal’s. No more.

Here is an excerpt from the report about Danieal from one of her former teachers:

Ms. Levin said that when she first met Danieal, she “fell in love:”
“She was a really nicely put together little gal. Her hair was always combed nicely and she wore cute little dresses and she had a huge smile. And she loved music and she loved to sing. She didn’t generate a lot of spontaneous conversation, but she was very articulate when she did speak. She had beautiful language. And . . . put on a record or a CD or a tape and she was there; she’d sing every single word. And she actually had a beautiful voice. One of the music teachers who was always impressed with her actually said something in regards that she had almost perfect pitch. . . .

“Some of the children who come into the program have a certain affect, you know. How it is that they look and sound might seem a little bit kind of hollow, kind of vacant, like you’re never really sure if they’re getting it. It’s difficult for them to express their emotions. Or they just might be very negative and resistive about things, depending on what their symptoms are. Danieal was always eager to learn, always. She was always smiling. Never one time, never one time did she ever say, I can’t do this, ever.”

What gets me, especially after reading the report, is that if these people had done their jobs, it DOES work.

Yes, a system will work if the people in it do their part. This system seems to have been riddled with slothful check-takers who were waiting for their fat retirement benefits.

I think it would be easier to monitor the potential sloth-workers at a few orphanages. And, yes, once someone has gov’t work, they are set for life in many cases. Just sit there and wait for retirement.

DHS has suspended 7 more employees: Pamela Mayo, Children and Youth Division Operations Director; Wesley Brown, a social service program director; Janice Walker, a supervisor; Martha Poller; Shawn Davis, a supervisor; Ingrid Hawke, a social work supervisor, and Valerie Mond, a supervisor.

Lizard, why suspended ? Are they working on getting all these people fired?

I think part of the problem might also be illustrated in some of the comments above. Those who care about kids can’t take those jobs, because they know what would result for them emotionally. The only people that are able to handle these jobs are those who really don’t give a fuck. You have someone who doesn’t have a compassionate bone in their body, and couple that with no oversight or consequences for failure, and this is what you get. A beautiful little girl, dead.

Lizard, why suspended ? Are they working on getting all these people fired?

I fucking hope so. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the report came at the perfect time–DHS has a brand-new commissioner. Anne Marie Ambrose has been at her position for just over a month. I hope she’s up to doing what needs to be done. A pretty good article on her came out today: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/26233229.html

I don’t know about that, Solange. Caring and being able to handle it are not mutually exclusive. I’ve known a lot of very passionate DHS workers, just as I’ve known passionate homicide detectives, etc.

But, you’re likely mostly right in that most of the people who fill those spots happen to not care. Most people, no matter what field they’re in, aren’t passionate about their work. It’s especially dangerous, though, when people’s lives depend on that work.

“suspended” Is the typical word used to give the impression that something will be done about it! The are probably “suspended” with pay or like I call it “taxpayer sponsored vacation”. You will see that nothing will be done–> except maybe to the ones that are going to prison. They can’t have the union fight for their job when they are in prison.

I guarantee you that when this blows over in a couple months, you could call over there and speak to any of the folks listed above. I also guarantee you that they won’t hold a conversation with you above 5th grade level.

Mark my words… Sad but true : (

Here is an excerpt from the report about Danieal from one of her former teachers: Ms. Levin said that when she first met Danieal, she “fell in love:”
“She was a really nicely put together little gal. Her hair was always combed nicely and she wore cute little dresses and she had a huge smile. And she loved music and she loved to sing. She didn’t generate a lot of spontaneous conversation, but she was very articulate when she did speak. She had beautiful language. And . . . put on a record or a CD or a tape and she was there; she’d sing every single word. And she actually had a beautiful voice. One of the music teachers who was always impressed with her actually said something in regards that she had almost perfect pitch. . . .“Some of the children who come into the program have a certain affect, you know. How it is that they look and sound might seem a little bit kind of hollow, kind of vacant, like you’re never really sure if they’re getting it. It’s difficult for them to express their emotions. Or they just might be very negative and resistive about things, depending on what their symptoms are. Danieal was always eager to learn, always. She was always smiling. Never one time, never one time did she ever say, I can’t do this, ever.”

Jesus, this is absolutely heartbreaking Solange! This just makes it even more clear that even as she deteriorated and lost her ability to communicate, in her mind she was wondering why her own mother was doing this to her and probably realizing she was slowly dying. In a way I’m glad she didn’t know there were so many other people involved who also didn’t give a shit.

I checked out the mugshots on the forum and almost vomited all over my computer screen. I hope every last one of those people never experiences another moment of pleasure in their entire worthless lives. Better yet, the whole lot of 9 will just drop dead immediately. Except for the “mother,” like I said before, claw hammer to rip her entire face off, followed by hydrochloric acid. Something about this bitch is inspiring me to get really creative. Who’s with me?

Who’s with me?

I’ll admit, you mentioned your husband, so I thought of mine, as he is researching invasive Asian carps. These fish grow very quickly and can get up to 100 pounds. I was thinking about using one as a blunt instrument or jamming it in some bodily orifice.

I hope this story gets major national press coverage soon. Like Solange said, this is something everyone should be aware of!!! Unfortunately, this is not just a problem in Philadelphia. So sickened by this.

I’m a 49 year old, 6 foot, 290 pond guy with a shaved head and the old devil beard/mustache deal. I’ve got a couple of tattoos and piercings. Most people say I look pretty scary.

And right now I’m crying……

Damn

So I sat here and opened up the pdf. I read and I read, and I stopped reading when I came across the picture. I sat there and looked away then I looked back at my screen. I squinted and brought my face closer to the screen because I didn’t believe what I was seeing. It looked like a picture off of rotten.com and not of some child. I noticed her poor legs and feet… I looked away and I would look back. It took a good 10 minutes for it to set in that this wasn’t some casualty of a 3rd world country, or war, or a natural disaster… this was a little girl isolated on her bed to die because she obviously to her mother, wasn’t good enough to be her baby, her daughter.

I choose not to have children not because I don’t know how to love and care, but because health issues. I think some people need to sit down and really think if they are having a kid to have one, or to share their life experiences and love onto someone who needs them..

I still can’t believe that little mound, is that of a little girl…

I’m disgusted with the world right now.

So I sat here and opened up the pdf. I read and I read, and I stopped reading when I came across the picture. I sat there and looked away then I looked back at my screen. I squinted and brought my face closer to the screen because I didn’t believe what I was seeing. It looked like a picture off of rotten.com and not of some child. I noticed her poor legs and feet… I looked away and I would look back. It took a good 10 minutes for it to set in that this wasn’t some casualty of a 3rd world country, or war, or a natural disaster… this was a little girl isolated on her bed to die because she obviously to her mother, wasn’t good enough to be her baby, her daughter.

I choose not to have children not because I don’t know how to love and care, but because health issues. I think some people need to sit down and really think if they are having a kid to have one, or to share their life experiences and love onto someone who needs them..

I still can’t believe that little mound, is that of a little girl…

I’m disgusted with the world right now.

I just wanted to point out that although I’ve been saying “little girl”, I am fully aware that she was 14. To me that is still an innocent little girl, but I wanted to remind everyone that the tiny little body in the morgue is supposed to be that of a 14 year old. THAT is how uncared for she was, that she is half the size of an average 14 year old. She should have been experimenting with makeup, flirting with boys, playing with her siblings (although she had cerebral palsy, it is obvious that if she had been in a loving home in her early years, she would have been able to do all those things). Instead she sat almost half her life in a room by herself, existing instead of living. People give more attention to their PLANTS than this slut gave to her daughter. I guess it’s hard to care for a disabled baby when you are fucking enough to get knocked up 9 times.

I just wanted to point out that although I’ve been saying “little girl”, I am fully aware that she was 14. To me that is still an innocent little girl, but I wanted to remind everyone that the tiny little body in the morgue is supposed to be that of a 14 year old. THAT is how uncared for she was, that she is half the size of an average 14 year old. She should have been experimenting with makeup, flirting with boys, playing with her siblings (although she had cerebral palsy, it is obvious that if she had been in a loving home in her early years, she would have been able to do all those things). Instead she sat almost half her life in a room by herself, existing instead of living. People give more attention to their PLANTS than this slut gave to her daughter. I guess it’s hard to care for a disabled baby when you are fucking enough to get knocked up 9 times.

And right now I’m crying……

Max (by the way, that’s the name of one of my cats), you are more proof that you can’t judge a book by its cover.

Thank you for your honesty.

And right now I’m crying……

Max (by the way, that’s the name of one of my cats), you are more proof that you can’t judge a book by its cover.

Thank you for your honesty.

This tragedy has struck me so deeply that it led me to my first ever comment here. I tend to be a quiet lurker.
As someone who has worked her entire life in the social services, I can’t even fathom this. Sure, I get tired, frustrated, burned out…But never in a million years could I imagine someone being that lazy and irresponsible with the life of anyone, let alone a child. But I’ve seen it. I don’t work in children’s case management because my mother was, and still is, a foster parent. I’ve had foster brothers and sisters who come into my mother’s house that would break your heart. Some were so neglected and abused they were terrified of any attention, including affection and care. To see a child scream bloody murder when all you do is make eye contact will truely break the heart of anyone who has a fiber of conscience.
Hopefully media attention remains on this case until reformations are made to a broken and abused system.

This tragedy has struck me so deeply that it led me to my first ever comment here. I tend to be a quiet lurker.
As someone who has worked her entire life in the social services, I can’t even fathom this. Sure, I get tired, frustrated, burned out…But never in a million years could I imagine someone being that lazy and irresponsible with the life of anyone, let alone a child. But I’ve seen it. I don’t work in children’s case management because my mother was, and still is, a foster parent. I’ve had foster brothers and sisters who come into my mother’s house that would break your heart. Some were so neglected and abused they were terrified of any attention, including affection and care. To see a child scream bloody murder when all you do is make eye contact will truely break the heart of anyone who has a fiber of conscience.
Hopefully media attention remains on this case until reformations are made to a broken and abused system.

Thank you for posting, Cordelia. I’m glad you “de-lurked” for Danieal. My research on this case suggests people have known the Philly DHS is broken for quite a while, but “reforms” have not addressed the key underlying problems. Who gives a fuck if you have a shitty form if no one in the organization will fill it out anyway? I’m hopeful something meaningful will happen this time around…but I’m no means certain it will. Until there’s some evidence that DHS leadership is willing to move the organization toward transparency and accountability…well, then they’re just blowing smoke out of their collective ass, IMHO.

Thank you for posting, Cordelia. I’m glad you “de-lurked” for Danieal. My research on this case suggests people have known the Philly DHS is broken for quite a while, but “reforms” have not addressed the key underlying problems. Who gives a fuck if you have a shitty form if no one in the organization will fill it out anyway? I’m hopeful something meaningful will happen this time around…but I’m no means certain it will. Until there’s some evidence that DHS leadership is willing to move the organization toward transparency and accountability…well, then they’re just blowing smoke out of their collective ass, IMHO.

Thank you for posting, Cordelia. I’m glad you “de-lurked” for Danieal. My research on this case suggests people have known the Philly DHS is broken for quite a while, but “reforms” have not addressed the key underlying problems. Who gives a fuck if you have a shitty form if no one in the organization will fill it out anyway? I’m hopeful something meaningful will happen this time around…but I’m no means certain it will. Until there’s some evidence that DHS leadership is willing to move the organization toward transparency and accountability…well, then they’re just blowing smoke out of their collective ass, IMHO.

I agree. I was shocked to read (I cant remember if it was in the report itself or in some articles I found) that even as they were testifying, these DHS people didn’t seem to fully understand the magnitude of what they had done. They didn’t even pretend to care that Danieal had died. Something is very very wrong with these places. I just don’t get how this could be allowed to continue over and over. How many times does a story like this surface, we all get riled up, you hear about some lame “disciplinary action”, and then all quiets down. Until it happens again. And again. And again. What the fuck is it going to take? Judging from past experience, I am doubtful that even this shocking death will change anything.

Thank you for posting, Cordelia. I’m glad you “de-lurked” for Danieal. My research on this case suggests people have known the Philly DHS is broken for quite a while, but “reforms” have not addressed the key underlying problems. Who gives a fuck if you have a shitty form if no one in the organization will fill it out anyway? I’m hopeful something meaningful will happen this time around…but I’m no means certain it will. Until there’s some evidence that DHS leadership is willing to move the organization toward transparency and accountability…well, then they’re just blowing smoke out of their collective ass, IMHO.

I agree. I was shocked to read (I cant remember if it was in the report itself or in some articles I found) that even as they were testifying, these DHS people didn’t seem to fully understand the magnitude of what they had done. They didn’t even pretend to care that Danieal had died. Something is very very wrong with these places. I just don’t get how this could be allowed to continue over and over. How many times does a story like this surface, we all get riled up, you hear about some lame “disciplinary action”, and then all quiets down. Until it happens again. And again. And again. What the fuck is it going to take? Judging from past experience, I am doubtful that even this shocking death will change anything.

Solange, I will say, kudos to the grand jury. That report just vibrates with their outrage and fury. Today, I thought, “There’s no one to file a civil suit for Danieal. Every single person who might be in a position to do that failed her horrendously when she was alive.” (There are a few who tried, as detailed in the report.) It’s so sad that the she finally gets her champion–the grand jury–years after she wasted away in pain and loneliness in a dark room during a heat wave.

You know why she had a fan in her room? Because her brother worried about her, so he put a fan in her room. Not her mother. Not her mother’s friends. In that house, the only people trying to do right by her were other children. And Andrea Kelly blocked them.

Solange, I will say, kudos to the grand jury. That report just vibrates with their outrage and fury. Today, I thought, “There’s no one to file a civil suit for Danieal. Every single person who might be in a position to do that failed her horrendously when she was alive.” (There are a few who tried, as detailed in the report.) It’s so sad that the she finally gets her champion–the grand jury–years after she wasted away in pain and loneliness in a dark room during a heat wave.

You know why she had a fan in her room? Because her brother worried about her, so he put a fan in her room. Not her mother. Not her mother’s friends. In that house, the only people trying to do right by her were other children. And Andrea Kelly blocked them.

Maybe the picture of Danieal should be prominently featured in the DHS office. Perhaps as a background on computers and a plaque in every cubicle/office. Gruesome yes and not at all respectful of the deceased, but a constant reminder of what happens when the system fails.

Maybe the picture of Danieal should be prominently featured in the DHS office. Perhaps as a background on computers and a plaque in every cubicle/office. Gruesome yes and not at all respectful of the deceased, but a constant reminder of what happens when the system fails.

Solange, I will say, kudos to the grand jury. That report just vibrates with their outrage and fury. Today, I thought, “There’s no one to file a civil suit for Danieal. Every single person who might be in a position to do that failed her horrendously when she was alive.” (There are a few who tried, as detailed in the report.) It’s so sad that the she finally gets her champion–the grand jury–years after she wasted away in pain and loneliness in a dark room during a heat wave.

I had read that about the brother, poor little guy said he used to hustle to be able to feed himself and Danieal. His mom would order pizza for her other kids and friends, but “run out” when it was his and Danieal’s turn to eat. Let me guess, are one of the people who tried to file a suit on Danieal’s behalf her father? As soon as I heard his comments expressing “concern” and contempt for DHS, it became pretty obvious why the guy was all of a sudden concerned with his child. I’m glad that now that the grand jury indited him too, he can kiss his lawsuit goodbye.

Solange, I will say, kudos to the grand jury. That report just vibrates with their outrage and fury. Today, I thought, “There’s no one to file a civil suit for Danieal. Every single person who might be in a position to do that failed her horrendously when she was alive.” (There are a few who tried, as detailed in the report.) It’s so sad that the she finally gets her champion–the grand jury–years after she wasted away in pain and loneliness in a dark room during a heat wave.

I had read that about the brother, poor little guy said he used to hustle to be able to feed himself and Danieal. His mom would order pizza for her other kids and friends, but “run out” when it was his and Danieal’s turn to eat. Let me guess, are one of the people who tried to file a suit on Danieal’s behalf her father? As soon as I heard his comments expressing “concern” and contempt for DHS, it became pretty obvious why the guy was all of a sudden concerned with his child. I’m glad that now that the grand jury indited him too, he can kiss his lawsuit goodbye.

I just read the first 100 pages of the report. My eyes are burning, my stomach is turning, and I just can’t read it anymore. I have a bad taste in my mouth from the stupid-ass mother trying to to make Daniel (Danieal’s brother) go check on poor Danieal, when he already knew she died the day before. “Mom” had no problem eating pizza while her daughter was passing in the other room.
Again, I could only hope that people who are found guilty are strapped to mattresses and left unattended until they die. And that still doesn’t seem like justice.

I read it all at lunch today. Ugh!! Poor, sweet child. They need to wallpaper these fuckers cells with pictures of that poor child. Not a day should go by that they don’t think of what they did.

Thank you, April. I’ve read the fucking thing twice (well, parts of it, many more times). I love the grand jury. And I hate every goddamn person who failed this child. It would’ve taken SO LITTLE to save her. I saw the recent photo of Mickal Kamuvaka in her scarf, carrying her coordinating leather wallet, with her wrists and hands covered in tasteful accessories, and I wanted to kick her fucking teeth in. I mean, she looks well-fed and healthy. I bet she even has air conditioning.

I read it all at lunch today. Ugh!! Poor, sweet child. They need to wallpaper these fuckers cells with pictures of that poor child. Not a day should go by that they don’t think of what they did.

Thank you, April. I’ve read the fucking thing twice (well, parts of it, many more times). I love the grand jury. And I hate every goddamn person who failed this child. It would’ve taken SO LITTLE to save her. I saw the recent photo of Mickal Kamuvaka in her scarf, carrying her coordinating leather wallet, with her wrists and hands covered in tasteful accessories, and I wanted to kick her fucking teeth in. I mean, she looks well-fed and healthy. I bet she even has air conditioning.

Again, I could only hope that people who are found guilty are strapped to mattresses and left unattended until they die. And that still doesn’t seem like justice.

Hey, whatthe. Sorry, I saw April’s response first and replied to it…but fuck, you hit the nail on the head, too. I feel like I need to pack up my household, make the big move to Philly, and announce myself at DHS: “Here I am. I don’t have the experience, but I’m ready to do my bit to make sure no child ever again has to face what Danieal Kelly did.”

Again, I could only hope that people who are found guilty are strapped to mattresses and left unattended until they die. And that still doesn’t seem like justice.

Hey, whatthe. Sorry, I saw April’s response first and replied to it…but fuck, you hit the nail on the head, too. I feel like I need to pack up my household, make the big move to Philly, and announce myself at DHS: “Here I am. I don’t have the experience, but I’m ready to do my bit to make sure no child ever again has to face what Danieal Kelly did.”

What gets me, especially after reading the report, is that if these people had done their jobs, it DOES work. I am shocked to hear that these social services people aren’t as overworked as they want people to think. Like the report states, they are just the decision makers…..Think of all the stories we hear about Department of Children failing a child, and we are quick to brush it off as people who are overworked and can’t attend to everyone. It is obviously a farse. Why isn’t anyone doing anything??? How can these people get away with this??????

Ms. Solange, in my experience (almost 8 years as a foster mom, 30+ kids and almost as many caseworkers–the turnover rate is high high high), the caseworkers who are badly overworked are the ones who do care and who are conscientious. I have had two caseworkers who were really outstanding, several who were pretty bad and one who was absolutely deplorable….this last one finally did get fired, but only after an 18-month grievance process and way too late to help our case…..my heart is still broken five years later over that sweet child….

The system is huge and unwieldy, and some days i am just flat wore out just trying to keep up with the kiddos at my house.

This particular case is of course absolutely inexcusable on so many levels.

CNKC, are you in Philadelphia? I have great sympathy for anyone working in ANY region in which there are few resources to commit to child services. The investigations conducted by the grand jury and the media (earlier), suggested that comparatively, the Philly DHS had adequate resources. I don’t think there is ANYONE here who wants to insult anyone who works in the child welfare system…and I mean works in the system, not is paid by it but sits on his/her ass.

It seems to me that if one outstanding manager could be identified, he or she could support those workers who do right by the children in their care. I have to believe that in some community there exists a children’s services department that functions as it should and is staffed by individuals who want the best for the children whose cases cross their desks. If this isn’t the case, then someone PM me in the forums, I’ll give you my home address, and you can come on over and shoot me.

No, I am not in Philly, I’m in Missouri. We are usually rated somewhere at the bottom of the 50 states in terms of resources, I believe. ….we seem to trade places with Arkansas on most fiscal measures related to the foster care system (sigh)

I may have grown cynical in my old age, but I doubt there is any children’s division that is staffed ONLY by competent and caring individuals, although this is one of the places that we most crucially need good folks. In America, the kids and the old folks seem to get the short end of the stick. I don’t think this is a sign of a healthy society.

IMO, states with lots of good resources probably have just as many bad workers and bad foster parents as the states at the bottom of the fiscal range.

Sorry to get on my soapbox. I really love our kids and I feel really terrible about Danieal. She could have had a good life. I do hope the social services employees are held appropriately responsible.

No, I am not in Philly, I’m in Missouri. We are usually rated somewhere at the bottom of the 50 states in terms of resources, I believe. ….we seem to trade places with Arkansas on most fiscal measures related to the foster care system (sigh)

I may have grown cynical in my old age, but I doubt there is any children’s division that is staffed ONLY by competent and caring individuals, although this is one of the places that we most crucially need good folks. In America, the kids and the old folks seem to get the short end of the stick. I don’t think this is a sign of a healthy society.

IMO, states with lots of good resources probably have just as many bad workers and bad foster parents as the states at the bottom of the fiscal range.

Sorry to get on my soapbox. I really love our kids and I feel really terrible about Danieal. She could have had a good life. I do hope the social services employees are held appropriately responsible.

Let me understand something. These new 7 people that were suspended, why are they suspended with pay????????? What sense does that make? What kind of punishment is that? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT????

Let me understand something. These new 7 people that were suspended, why are they suspended with pay????????? What sense does that make? What kind of punishment is that? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT????

Hey, whatthe. Sorry, I saw April’s response first and replied to it…but fuck, you hit the nail on the head, too. I feel like I need to pack up my household, make the big move to Philly, and announce myself at DHS: “Here I am. I don’t have the experience, but I’m ready to do my bit to make sure no child ever again has to face what Danieal Kelly did.”

Lizard, if some of these people would have done even the LEAST amount of work their job required, we wouldn’t even be discussing this young girl. You spent more time reading that report than they spent caring for Danieal. Except in trying to cover their asses, of course. If you would go, I would drive you. Good Lord!
Heh…loved the air conditioning comment.

Hey, whatthe. Sorry, I saw April’s response first and replied to it…but fuck, you hit the nail on the head, too. I feel like I need to pack up my household, make the big move to Philly, and announce myself at DHS: “Here I am. I don’t have the experience, but I’m ready to do my bit to make sure no child ever again has to face what Danieal Kelly did.”

Lizard, if some of these people would have done even the LEAST amount of work their job required, we wouldn’t even be discussing this young girl. You spent more time reading that report than they spent caring for Danieal. Except in trying to cover their asses, of course. If you would go, I would drive you. Good Lord!
Heh…loved the air conditioning comment.

Oh man- this story is giving me nightmares, honest to God nightmares.
These people should go away for life- every single one of them.
How hard would it have been to give Danieal up to foster care?
Well, considering the bitch mother was cashing the checks meant for Danieal to buy fucking pizza, I guess it would have been very hard for her to give that up- Cunt.

Oh man- this story is giving me nightmares, honest to God nightmares.
These people should go away for life- every single one of them.
How hard would it have been to give Danieal up to foster care?
Well, considering the bitch mother was cashing the checks meant for Danieal to buy fucking pizza, I guess it would have been very hard for her to give that up- Cunt.

Oh man- this story is giving me nightmares, honest to God nightmares.These people should go away for life- every single one of them.How hard would it have been to give Danieal up to foster care?Well, considering the bitch mother was cashing the checks meant for Danieal to buy fucking pizza, I guess it would have been very hard for her to give that up- Cunt.

And the pizza “ran out” before Danieal and Daniel were able to have any. They were not even given a crust.

Oh man- this story is giving me nightmares, honest to God nightmares.These people should go away for life- every single one of them.How hard would it have been to give Danieal up to foster care?Well, considering the bitch mother was cashing the checks meant for Danieal to buy fucking pizza, I guess it would have been very hard for her to give that up- Cunt.

And the pizza “ran out” before Danieal and Daniel were able to have any. They were not even given a crust.

Oh man- this story is giving me nightmares, honest to God nightmares.These people should go away for life- every single one of them.How hard would it have been to give Danieal up to foster care?Well, considering the bitch mother was cashing the checks meant for Danieal to buy fucking pizza, I guess it would have been very hard for her to give that up- Cunt.

And the pizza “ran out” before Danieal and Daniel were able to have any. They were not even given a crust.

Just can’t stop thinking about poor Danieal…as well as the other poor children born to that disgusting breeding machine. The photo of the kitchen in the report was absolutely vile. Think of 9 children living in that filth. The home was filled with trash–they had no working stove so they ate fast food, all were malnourished and neglected, in the middle of a heat wave, with the smell of their sister literally decaying to death upstairs. Obviously Danieal desperately needed intervention to save her life, but these kids were clearly suffering the effects of neglect, too. How will this affect them? What will happen to them? Can they ever hope to live normal lives after this?

Especially the children who were old enough/cognizant enough to want to help Danieal. The parts of the report where the children said that she was constantly begging for water…what would it be like to live with a “mother” who was so fucking soulless and uncaring?

Daniel, poor Daniel. Putting the fan in his sister’s room. BEGGING his mother to call 911. Being forced to “check” on her, with that piece of shit of a mother knowing full well that she was gone.

This just kills me. The whole thing is too much to bear. The autopsy photo…her wasted, infected body…and those barrettes in her hair. It haunts me.

Damn. Why are there so many innocent children in the world who are born to such worthless pieces of shit? Why are there so many fuckers who are supposed to protect them that are too heartless and lazy to bother?

Just can’t stop thinking about poor Danieal…as well as the other poor children born to that disgusting breeding machine. The photo of the kitchen in the report was absolutely vile. Think of 9 children living in that filth. The home was filled with trash–they had no working stove so they ate fast food, all were malnourished and neglected, in the middle of a heat wave, with the smell of their sister literally decaying to death upstairs. Obviously Danieal desperately needed intervention to save her life, but these kids were clearly suffering the effects of neglect, too. How will this affect them? What will happen to them? Can they ever hope to live normal lives after this?

Especially the children who were old enough/cognizant enough to want to help Danieal. The parts of the report where the children said that she was constantly begging for water…what would it be like to live with a “mother” who was so fucking soulless and uncaring?

Daniel, poor Daniel. Putting the fan in his sister’s room. BEGGING his mother to call 911. Being forced to “check” on her, with that piece of shit of a mother knowing full well that she was gone.

This just kills me. The whole thing is too much to bear. The autopsy photo…her wasted, infected body…and those barrettes in her hair. It haunts me.

Damn. Why are there so many innocent children in the world who are born to such worthless pieces of shit? Why are there so many fuckers who are supposed to protect them that are too heartless and lazy to bother?

The home was filled with trash–they had no working stove so they ate fast food, all were malnourished and neglected, in the middle of a heat wave, with the smell of their sister literally decaying to death upstairs.

And she wasn’t even upstairs–she was in a small room right off the main room. The whole place must’ve smelled of her dying.

In June 2006, when Julius Murray failed to bring Danieal in for educational testing as promised, the school psychologist and special ed liaison went to the Kelly home to conduct the testing. Even though it was summer, Danieal had a scarf wrapped around her head and was wearing a jacket…and I’m guessing Mommy did that to conceal the fact she was already starving. Following the testing, the psychologist said that, “Danieal had few available channels of expressive communication, other than crying intensely.”

This kills me. Once upon a time she had “beautiful language,” and now she can’t even express to these women who could have saved her what she is going through. I would’ve been “crying intensely” too.

Anyway, for anyone wanting to stay up to date on what’s happening regarding this case, the Philadelphia Inquirer has some very good coverage at http://www.philly.com/inquirer/special/child_welfare/ (e.g., an article on everyone charged, suspended, and/or fired at http://www.philly.com/inquirer/special/child_welfare/20080805_Heads_That_Have_Rolled.html).

The city’s mayor had some exceptionally strong words after reading the grand jury report: “I am fully, thoroughly and completely pissed off,” he said. Had a city employee treated his child as Daniel was treated, “I would kick their ass myself.”

The home was filled with trash–they had no working stove so they ate fast food, all were malnourished and neglected, in the middle of a heat wave, with the smell of their sister literally decaying to death upstairs.

And she wasn’t even upstairs–she was in a small room right off the main room. The whole place must’ve smelled of her dying.

In June 2006, when Julius Murray failed to bring Danieal in for educational testing as promised, the school psychologist and special ed liaison went to the Kelly home to conduct the testing. Even though it was summer, Danieal had a scarf wrapped around her head and was wearing a jacket…and I’m guessing Mommy did that to conceal the fact she was already starving. Following the testing, the psychologist said that, “Danieal had few available channels of expressive communication, other than crying intensely.”

This kills me. Once upon a time she had “beautiful language,” and now she can’t even express to these women who could have saved her what she is going through. I would’ve been “crying intensely” too.

Anyway, for anyone wanting to stay up to date on what’s happening regarding this case, the Philadelphia Inquirer has some very good coverage at http://www.philly.com/inquirer/special/child_welfare/ (e.g., an article on everyone charged, suspended, and/or fired at http://www.philly.com/inquirer/special/child_welfare/20080805_Heads_That_Have_Rolled.html).

The city’s mayor had some exceptionally strong words after reading the grand jury report: “I am fully, thoroughly and completely pissed off,” he said. Had a city employee treated his child as Daniel was treated, “I would kick their ass myself.”

I didn’t read the report — I just couldn’t bear it. This is 2 years ago, yes? So where are the other children today? Have they been in foster care for 2 years now? Or with relatives? Does anyone know how they’re doing now??

I didn’t read the report — I just couldn’t bear it. This is 2 years ago, yes? So where are the other children today? Have they been in foster care for 2 years now? Or with relatives? Does anyone know how they’re doing now??

All I heard was that all the children were taken from Andrea following Danieal’s death, and when she gave birth to #10 in October 2006, that child was taken immediately. DHS would probably say the whereabouts and condition of her other children can’t be released due to confidentiality issues.

All I heard was that all the children were taken from Andrea following Danieal’s death, and when she gave birth to #10 in October 2006, that child was taken immediately. DHS would probably say the whereabouts and condition of her other children can’t be released due to confidentiality issues.

Read the report. Page 18. Had to get up and vomit. I’m going to agree with the mayor:

The city’s mayor had some exceptionally strong words after reading the grand jury report: “I am fully, thoroughly and completely pissed off,” he said. Had a city employee treated his child as Daniel was treated, “I would kick their ass myself.”

Do you guys know who wrote that report? It was so fucking well-written, it’s hard to believe 12 jurors picked randomly put that together. It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

Do you guys know who wrote that report? It was so fucking well-written, it’s hard to believe 12 jurors picked randomly put that together. It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

Do you guys know who wrote that report? It was so fucking well-written, it’s hard to believe 12 jurors picked randomly put that together. It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

You’re too kind.

Actually, they have various paralegals and other well-educated legal assistants who write those things up. They get edited multiple times, as well.

Do you guys know who wrote that report? It was so fucking well-written, it’s hard to believe 12 jurors picked randomly put that together. It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

You’re too kind.

Actually, they have various paralegals and other well-educated legal assistants who write those things up. They get edited multiple times, as well.

You’re too kind.

Actually, they have various paralegals and other well-educated legal assistants who write those things up. They get edited multiple times, as well.

LOL. That makes sense. Everyone involved did excellent research and work on that though, you can tell they were passionate about what they were doing. I’m surprised they were able to uncover everything, like the forgery-fest at MultiEthnic and falsifying of records at DHS. I guess what Morbid said is true, most criminals are pretty stupid.

You’re too kind.

Actually, they have various paralegals and other well-educated legal assistants who write those things up. They get edited multiple times, as well.

LOL. That makes sense. Everyone involved did excellent research and work on that though, you can tell they were passionate about what they were doing. I’m surprised they were able to uncover everything, like the forgery-fest at MultiEthnic and falsifying of records at DHS. I guess what Morbid said is true, most criminals are pretty stupid.

Lizard – Thank you for doing all of the research and providing the updates. I want to keep up on this one. I think I will have a party on the day they send all of these worthless fuckers to jail.
Keep up the good work!
*MUAH*

Lizard – Thank you for doing all of the research and providing the updates. I want to keep up on this one. I think I will have a party on the day they send all of these worthless fuckers to jail.
Keep up the good work!
*MUAH*

Lizard – Thank you for doing all of the research and providing the updates. I want to keep up on this one. I think I will have a party on the day they send all of these worthless fuckers to jail.
Keep up the good work!
*MUAH*

Amen. I wish I could fly up to Philly and be there for the trials myself. I hope, that if there is an afterlife, Danieal is up there and knows how many people love her and care for her now. It’s a shame it came way too late. That’s the way this fucked up world is, no one cares until the kid is dead.

Oh Holy GAWD! How did this Poindexter guy get by with this junk?!? Here in Texas, we also have 60 days to determine whether the child is safe and act on it in order to close a case…but you better not go over 30 days without a damn good explanation! Automated reports go out to everyone’s supervisor every 14 days, and if you have a case past 30 days, your supervisor will be on your ass, and his supervisor on HIS ass, until you get the job done..and you better do it right. No cutting corners.
And he didn’t even see the child?!? Or do a thorough home visit?!? We have between 24 and 72 hours to lay eyes on a child, and if the child is verbal enough, do a complete interview. Again, those automated reports to your supervisor let him know if you missed your deadline, and a big chunk of your arse will be missing if you failed in your duty. You will be immediately called on the carpet and better have a REAL good explanation about why. We do it right around here. At least, most of us do. I’m sure Texas has our share of Poindexters…but I’m grateful that I have never had to work with one. My colleagues, like me, work 60 hours weeks on a regular basis to protect the children on our watch. I had a removal of 8 children recently, and called the three other investigators in my unit to come help me, as we couldn’t find one place that would take all 8. We split up, each taking two or three to where they needed to go. We all worked 27 straight hours..no sleep, no breaks, no rest at all…until we had those children safely removed from a dangerous situation and placed in safe places. Then we checked into our respective hotel rooms and did our best to grab a few hours sleep before going right back to it, finding a place that would take all 8, going back to get them all, and moving them to a single place where they could be together. But then, I guess I’m fortunate enough to work with a group of caring, dedicated, like-minded professionals who recognize that what we do is important, and we do it because we CARE. This is not a job..it’s a vocation. One is called to this line of work. We don’t do it for a paycheck, because…well, as civil servants, we don’t make the big bucks. There are way easier ways to make a way bigger paycheck.
But geez…this guy couldn’t even be bothered to take an hour or two out of a single day to go check on this child?!?She’d be alive today if he had just done his damn job.
Sorry to rant…I just get pissed.

OK, so I only thought I was done ranting…
There is a single question just burning through my hot little brain…
Where the HELL was this guy’s supervisor?!? Anyone working under MY supervisor would have been unemployed with a quickness after the first hint of a problem.
Anybody know what Poindexter’s “explanation” might be? Or his supervisors?

OK, so I only thought I was done ranting…
There is a single question just burning through my hot little brain…
Where the HELL was this guy’s supervisor?!? Anyone working under MY supervisor would have been unemployed with a quickness after the first hint of a problem.
Anybody know what Poindexter’s “explanation” might be? Or his supervisors?

My colleagues, like me, work 60 hours weeks on a regular basis to protect the children on our watch. I had a removal of 8 children recently, and called the three other investigators in my unit to come help me, as we couldn’t find one place that would take all 8. We split up, each taking two or three to where they needed to go. We all worked 27 straight hours..no sleep, no breaks, no rest at all…until we had those children safely removed from a dangerous situation and placed in safe places.

God bless you and your colleagues, Lapsus…you might not ought’ve shared that, as I’m guessing you’ll be deluged with fan mail now (mine has the hearts on the envelope).

Sadly, it wasn’t just Poindexter. It was his immediate supervisor…and her immediate supervisor. Supervisors do get reports of all their subordinates’ cases, but Janice Walker and Martha Poller did exactly what Poindexter did…nothing. It just boggles the mind. What did these people think they were dealing with here, boxed crackers? Control top pantyhose? Weather reports? Since I first read about this case, I’ve wondered if a particular mindset came into play at all–a belief that white people (or middle class people, or DHS officials) “just don’t understand black families.” Meaning, pay me, but I’m not going to interfere with these families, I’m sure they’re doing fine. I honestly have no idea how likely that is, just tossing it out there in case anyone has insights.

If you don’t think you can stomach the entire grand jury report, there is a chapter on DHS alone.

My colleagues, like me, work 60 hours weeks on a regular basis to protect the children on our watch. I had a removal of 8 children recently, and called the three other investigators in my unit to come help me, as we couldn’t find one place that would take all 8. We split up, each taking two or three to where they needed to go. We all worked 27 straight hours..no sleep, no breaks, no rest at all…until we had those children safely removed from a dangerous situation and placed in safe places.

God bless you and your colleagues, Lapsus…you might not ought’ve shared that, as I’m guessing you’ll be deluged with fan mail now (mine has the hearts on the envelope).

Sadly, it wasn’t just Poindexter. It was his immediate supervisor…and her immediate supervisor. Supervisors do get reports of all their subordinates’ cases, but Janice Walker and Martha Poller did exactly what Poindexter did…nothing. It just boggles the mind. What did these people think they were dealing with here, boxed crackers? Control top pantyhose? Weather reports? Since I first read about this case, I’ve wondered if a particular mindset came into play at all–a belief that white people (or middle class people, or DHS officials) “just don’t understand black families.” Meaning, pay me, but I’m not going to interfere with these families, I’m sure they’re doing fine. I honestly have no idea how likely that is, just tossing it out there in case anyone has insights.

If you don’t think you can stomach the entire grand jury report, there is a chapter on DHS alone.

My colleagues, like me, work 60 hours weeks on a regular basis to protect the children on our watch. I had a removal of 8 children recently, and called the three other investigators in my unit to come help me, as we couldn’t find one place that would take all 8. We split up, each taking two or three to where they needed to go. We all worked 27 straight hours..no sleep, no breaks, no rest at all…until we had those children safely removed from a dangerous situation and placed in safe places.

God bless you and your colleagues, Lapsus…you might not ought’ve shared that, as I’m guessing you’ll be deluged with fan mail now (mine has the hearts on the envelope).

Sadly, it wasn’t just Poindexter. It was his immediate supervisor…and her immediate supervisor. Supervisors do get reports of all their subordinates’ cases, but Janice Walker and Martha Poller did exactly what Poindexter did…nothing. It just boggles the mind. What did these people think they were dealing with here, boxed crackers? Control top pantyhose? Weather reports? Since I first read about this case, I’ve wondered if a particular mindset came into play at all–a belief that white people (or middle class people, or DHS officials) “just don’t understand black families.” Meaning, pay me, but I’m not going to interfere with these families, I’m sure they’re doing fine. I honestly have no idea how likely that is, just tossing it out there in case anyone has insights.

If you don’t think you can stomach the entire grand jury report, there is a chapter on DHS alone.

Where the HELL was this guy’s supervisor?!? …Anybody know what Poindexter’s “explanation” might be? Or his supervisors?

You really have to read it to believe it. The guy is a total moron. Like I said, go straight to the DHS chapter in the report if you want to bypass the more gruesome aspects of the report, like the morgue picture.

Where the HELL was this guy’s supervisor?!? …Anybody know what Poindexter’s “explanation” might be? Or his supervisors?

You really have to read it to believe it. The guy is a total moron. Like I said, go straight to the DHS chapter in the report if you want to bypass the more gruesome aspects of the report, like the morgue picture.

God bless you and your colleagues, Lapsus…you might not ought’ve shared that, as I’m guessing you’ll be deluged with fan mail now (mine has the hearts on the envelope).

Lizard, you’re a peach Thanks for the heads-up on the section about DHS. I couldn’t bring myself to click on the link to the indictment because I just wasn’t sure that I could handle it. Now that I know there is a section on DHS without the gory details, I’ll go see if I can figure out how this child slipped through so many cracks, and so many people were so derilect in their duties as to allow this to happen.
I’m just disgusted by this. This guy and his cronies make us all look bad. I’m sure there is a special place in Hell for these people.

God bless you and your colleagues, Lapsus…you might not ought’ve shared that, as I’m guessing you’ll be deluged with fan mail now (mine has the hearts on the envelope).

Lizard, you’re a peach Thanks for the heads-up on the section about DHS. I couldn’t bring myself to click on the link to the indictment because I just wasn’t sure that I could handle it. Now that I know there is a section on DHS without the gory details, I’ll go see if I can figure out how this child slipped through so many cracks, and so many people were so derilect in their duties as to allow this to happen.
I’m just disgusted by this. This guy and his cronies make us all look bad. I’m sure there is a special place in Hell for these people.

If you want to “connect” with me in the forums, I can send you the DHS chapter alone.

If you want to “connect” with me in the forums, I can send you the DHS chapter alone.

If you want to “connect” with me in the forums, I can send you the DHS chapter alone.

It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

By the way, Solange, thank you very much! I’m prone to embarrassment when someone compliments me, so I’ve been hiding in a dark corner so no one would see my red face.

It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

By the way, Solange, thank you very much! I’m prone to embarrassment when someone compliments me, so I’ve been hiding in a dark corner so no one would see my red face.

It’s like they somehow got 12 Imps, Athenas, and Lizards in one room.

By the way, Solange, thank you very much! I’m prone to embarrassment when someone compliments me, so I’ve been hiding in a dark corner so no one would see my red face.

If you want to “connect” with me in the forums, I can send you the DHS chapter alone.

That would be great, but I can’t seem to get logged into the forums Partly because I’m on ghetto dial-up, I’m guessing. The other issue is with the registration. I registered, tried to verify, and it errored. Tried it again, same thing. It keeps telling me that I’m not using the right verification whatever…sigh. I gave up.

If you want to “connect” with me in the forums, I can send you the DHS chapter alone.

That would be great, but I can’t seem to get logged into the forums Partly because I’m on ghetto dial-up, I’m guessing. The other issue is with the registration. I registered, tried to verify, and it errored. Tried it again, same thing. It keeps telling me that I’m not using the right verification whatever…sigh. I gave up.

That would be great, but I can’t seem to get logged into the forums

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

That would be great, but I can’t seem to get logged into the forums

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

That would be great, but I can’t seem to get logged into the forums

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

That would be wonderful, thank you!! Imp, Morbid….will you please pass my email addy on to Lizard?

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

That would be wonderful, thank you!! Imp, Morbid….will you please pass my email addy on to Lizard?

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

That would be wonderful, thank you!! Imp, Morbid….will you please pass my email addy on to Lizard?

If it’s okay with you, I can ask Morbid or imp for your e-mail address and send it to you. Just let me know.

That would be wonderful, thank you!! Imp, Morbid….will you please pass my email addy on to Lizard?

I had to skim most of the report, it was too devastating to read thoroughly.

This poor little girl died, but what of her NINE brothers and sisters who were only luckier in that they were more mobile and able to scramble for their piece of pizza or sell drugs and get some cash? They are also victims of the incompetency and cowardice of the government employees who could have stopped this horror that is also taking place in how many households in Philly?

I had to skim most of the report, it was too devastating to read thoroughly.

This poor little girl died, but what of her NINE brothers and sisters who were only luckier in that they were more mobile and able to scramble for their piece of pizza or sell drugs and get some cash? They are also victims of the incompetency and cowardice of the government employees who could have stopped this horror that is also taking place in how many households in Philly?

This poor little girl died, but what of her NINE brothers and sisters who were only luckier in that they were more mobile and able to scramble for their piece of pizza or sell drugs and get some cash? They are also victims of the incompetency and cowardice of the government employees who could have stopped this horror that is also taking place in how many households in Philly?

Wry – I was wondering how “bad off” the other children were / are. I mean – we know that poor Daniel was neglected. Did she treat the others any better?? I assume Daniel and Danieal were from the same father… Were any of the others?? Who kept knocking this ghetto whore up?? I know that one of the baby daddies called DHS on this bitch. How many baby daddies were there?? I have so many questions.
I hope that the children will all be okay from this. I can only imagine the emmotional scarring that they must be dealing with. UGH. I have not been able to get Danieal’s face out of my head. I hate that there are actually people like this (that are so selfish) that can give birth to not only one but 10 children. I uppose she was just looking for a gov’t check….. She should have had her worthless cunt sewn up at birth.

This poor little girl died, but what of her NINE brothers and sisters who were only luckier in that they were more mobile and able to scramble for their piece of pizza or sell drugs and get some cash? They are also victims of the incompetency and cowardice of the government employees who could have stopped this horror that is also taking place in how many households in Philly?

Wry – I was wondering how “bad off” the other children were / are. I mean – we know that poor Daniel was neglected. Did she treat the others any better?? I assume Daniel and Danieal were from the same father… Were any of the others?? Who kept knocking this ghetto whore up?? I know that one of the baby daddies called DHS on this bitch. How many baby daddies were there?? I have so many questions.
I hope that the children will all be okay from this. I can only imagine the emmotional scarring that they must be dealing with. UGH. I have not been able to get Danieal’s face out of my head. I hate that there are actually people like this (that are so selfish) that can give birth to not only one but 10 children. I uppose she was just looking for a gov’t check….. She should have had her worthless cunt sewn up at birth.

This poor little girl died, but what of her NINE brothers and sisters who were only luckier in that they were more mobile and able to scramble for their piece of pizza or sell drugs and get some cash? They are also victims of the incompetency and cowardice of the government employees who could have stopped this horror that is also taking place in how many households in Philly?

Wry – I was wondering how “bad off” the other children were / are. I mean – we know that poor Daniel was neglected. Did she treat the others any better?? I assume Daniel and Danieal were from the same father… Were any of the others?? Who kept knocking this ghetto whore up?? I know that one of the baby daddies called DHS on this bitch. How many baby daddies were there?? I have so many questions.
I hope that the children will all be okay from this. I can only imagine the emmotional scarring that they must be dealing with. UGH. I have not been able to get Danieal’s face out of my head. I hate that there are actually people like this (that are so selfish) that can give birth to not only one but 10 children. I uppose she was just looking for a gov’t check….. She should have had her worthless cunt sewn up at birth.

Wry – I was wondering how “bad off” the other children were / are. I mean – we know that poor Daniel was neglected. Did she treat the others any better??

Read the report and the description of their home. This fecund bitch was pumping them out and then doing the minimum.

Who was knocking her up? I’d guess any man desperate enough to get between her legs.

Wry – I was wondering how “bad off” the other children were / are. I mean – we know that poor Daniel was neglected. Did she treat the others any better??

Read the report and the description of their home. This fecund bitch was pumping them out and then doing the minimum.

Who was knocking her up? I’d guess any man desperate enough to get between her legs.

Wry – I was wondering how “bad off” the other children were / are. I mean – we know that poor Daniel was neglected. Did she treat the others any better??

Read the report and the description of their home. This fecund bitch was pumping them out and then doing the minimum.

Who was knocking her up? I’d guess any man desperate enough to get between her legs.

Read the report and the description of their home. This fecund bitch was pumping them out and then doing the minimum.

Yeah – I read that. I guess I had to wonder because of the comment that Daniel made about how the “mother” (if that is what you call a cunt like this) treated him and Danieal different. Made me think that they were the black sheep. Whatever the case may be, thank God they got away with their lives. That roach infested hole had to be hell on Earth….

Read the report and the description of their home. This fecund bitch was pumping them out and then doing the minimum.

Yeah – I read that. I guess I had to wonder because of the comment that Daniel made about how the “mother” (if that is what you call a cunt like this) treated him and Danieal different. Made me think that they were the black sheep. Whatever the case may be, thank God they got away with their lives. That roach infested hole had to be hell on Earth….

Read the report and the description of their home. This fecund bitch was pumping them out and then doing the minimum.

Yeah – I read that. I guess I had to wonder because of the comment that Daniel made about how the “mother” (if that is what you call a cunt like this) treated him and Danieal different. Made me think that they were the black sheep. Whatever the case may be, thank God they got away with their lives. That roach infested hole had to be hell on Earth….

From what I read there are five different fathers, possibly 6 because of the last baby that was born.

Sadly, it wasn’t just Poindexter. It was his immediate supervisor…and her immediate supervisor. Supervisors do get reports of all their subordinates’ cases, but Janice Walker and Martha Poller did exactly what Poindexter did…nothing. It just boggles the mind. What did these people think they were dealing with here, boxed crackers? Control top pantyhose? Weather reports? Since I first read about this case, I’ve wondered if a particular mindset came into play at all–a belief that white people (or middle class people, or DHS officials) “just don’t understand black families.” Meaning, pay me, but I’m not going to interfere with these families, I’m sure they’re doing fine. I honestly have no idea how likely that is, just tossing it out there in case anyone has insights.

I’m glad you mentioned that Lizard, you have to wonder why almost every single one of these case workers is black. Maybe it is just because there is a large black population in Philly and all the caseworkers are predominantly black? I don’t know, but I’m not going to lie and say that I didn’t notice it. Also, even from the 7 names that were released yesterday of people being suspended, even some of those people sound like they might be black: “Wesley Brown” for example. Maybe there is some truth to what you are saying about them feeling like DHS rules and regulations might not make sense for black families. Except for Poindexter, I am convinced he is just a lazy asshole. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has slept with mothers in return for not taking their kids away from their abusive/neglectful homes.

From what I read there are five different fathers, possibly 6 because of the last baby that was born.

Sadly, it wasn’t just Poindexter. It was his immediate supervisor…and her immediate supervisor. Supervisors do get reports of all their subordinates’ cases, but Janice Walker and Martha Poller did exactly what Poindexter did…nothing. It just boggles the mind. What did these people think they were dealing with here, boxed crackers? Control top pantyhose? Weather reports? Since I first read about this case, I’ve wondered if a particular mindset came into play at all–a belief that white people (or middle class people, or DHS officials) “just don’t understand black families.” Meaning, pay me, but I’m not going to interfere with these families, I’m sure they’re doing fine. I honestly have no idea how likely that is, just tossing it out there in case anyone has insights.

I’m glad you mentioned that Lizard, you have to wonder why almost every single one of these case workers is black. Maybe it is just because there is a large black population in Philly and all the caseworkers are predominantly black? I don’t know, but I’m not going to lie and say that I didn’t notice it. Also, even from the 7 names that were released yesterday of people being suspended, even some of those people sound like they might be black: “Wesley Brown” for example. Maybe there is some truth to what you are saying about them feeling like DHS rules and regulations might not make sense for black families. Except for Poindexter, I am convinced he is just a lazy asshole. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has slept with mothers in return for not taking their kids away from their abusive/neglectful homes.

Maybe there is some truth to what you are saying about them feeling like DHS rules and regulations might not make sense for black families. Except for Poindexter, I am convinced he is just a lazy asshole. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has slept with mothers in return for not taking their kids away from their abusive/neglectful homes.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

One thing I can say is that I lived in Philadelphia for many years and city workers who do not lift a hand to do any work are a problem. They tend to be defended by local organizations whenever discipline or demotion is attempted. This blindly partisan stuff is a blight on the city.

Maybe there is some truth to what you are saying about them feeling like DHS rules and regulations might not make sense for black families. Except for Poindexter, I am convinced he is just a lazy asshole. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has slept with mothers in return for not taking their kids away from their abusive/neglectful homes.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

One thing I can say is that I lived in Philadelphia for many years and city workers who do not lift a hand to do any work are a problem. They tend to be defended by local organizations whenever discipline or demotion is attempted. This blindly partisan stuff is a blight on the city.

Maybe there is some truth to what you are saying about them feeling like DHS rules and regulations might not make sense for black families. Except for Poindexter, I am convinced he is just a lazy asshole. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has slept with mothers in return for not taking their kids away from their abusive/neglectful homes.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

One thing I can say is that I lived in Philadelphia for many years and city workers who do not lift a hand to do any work are a problem. They tend to be defended by local organizations whenever discipline or demotion is attempted. This blindly partisan stuff is a blight on the city.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

I honestly don’t know. Ask Lizard, she brought it up first lol. I really can’t see how allowing a girl to be starved is being understanding to fellow blacks, unless there is something I’m missing.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

I honestly don’t know. Ask Lizard, she brought it up first lol. I really can’t see how allowing a girl to be starved is being understanding to fellow blacks, unless there is something I’m missing.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

I honestly don’t know. Ask Lizard, she brought it up first lol. I really can’t see how allowing a girl to be starved is being understanding to fellow blacks, unless there is something I’m missing.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

Wry, this was an issue I raised, entirely hypothetically. The question I asked is, “Suppose that many/most caseworkers are black and believe that white people, or upper middle class people (race regardless), or DHS officials fail to take into account that ‘black parenting’ may be ‘different’ but not ‘bad.’” Meaning, black families are more likely to be headed by a female, no father/husband figure consistently present. I can only guess what the ramifications would be–mother is more likely to leave children with friends/acquaintances of the family that with “real” relatives? Mother’s notion of “adequate nutrition” doesn’t meet with say, my notion of adequate nutrition for children? I mean, we are well aware that, statistically, the “average black family” doesn’t look like the “average white family.” Does this come into play when a neglect/abuse call is placed? If so, how so? And did it come into play for the family of Danieal Kelly? Honestly, I didn’t raise the issue to cause dissension, but merely to try to understand what the hell might’ve happened here.

Sorry, am adding this a bit later…and thus, would a black caseworker be more likely to feel “confident” that just because the reported family is black that no children are being abused or neglected?

Me personally, string those fuckers up. Of course, that’s just me. I saw that fucking photo. That poor child.

I don’t know what you mean, Solange. What regulations don’t make sense for black families? I honestly would like to know what you mean.

Wry, this was an issue I raised, entirely hypothetically. The question I asked is, “Suppose that many/most caseworkers are black and believe that white people, or upper middle class people (race regardless), or DHS officials fail to take into account that ‘black parenting’ may be ‘different’ but not ‘bad.’” Meaning, black families are more likely to be headed by a female, no father/husband figure consistently present. I can only guess what the ramifications would be–mother is more likely to leave children with friends/acquaintances of the family that with “real” relatives? Mother’s notion of “adequate nutrition” doesn’t meet with say, my notion of adequate nutrition for children? I mean, we are well aware that, statistically, the “average black family” doesn’t look like the “average white family.” Does this come into play when a neglect/abuse call is placed? If so, how so? And did it come into play for the family of Danieal Kelly? Honestly, I didn’t raise the issue to cause dissension, but merely to try to understand what the hell might’ve happened here.

Sorry, am adding this a bit later…and thus, would a black caseworker be more likely to feel “confident” that just because the reported family is black that no children are being abused or neglected?

Me personally, string those fuckers up. Of course, that’s just me. I saw that fucking photo. That poor child.

Shit, I just realized, thanks to server problems, one of my posts got lost. Dana Poindexter and Laura Sommerer have been fired from DHS.

Shit, I just realized, thanks to server problems, one of my posts got lost. Dana Poindexter and Laura Sommerer have been fired from DHS.

Shit, I just realized, thanks to server problems, one of my posts got lost. Dana Poindexter and Laura Sommerer have been fired from DHS.

Shit, I just realized, thanks to server problems, one of my posts got lost. Dana Poindexter and Laura Sommerer have been fired from DHS.

Thank god. It’s about time.

Shit, I just realized, thanks to server problems, one of my posts got lost. Dana Poindexter and Laura Sommerer have been fired from DHS.

Thank god. It’s about time.

Shit, I just realized, thanks to server problems, one of my posts got lost. Dana Poindexter and Laura Sommerer have been fired from DHS.

Thank god. It’s about time.

Danieal’s parents have filed a civil suit and are seeking more than $50,000 in damages, claiming that DHS, MultEthnic, etc. caused Danieal’s death.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080812_Danieal_Kelly_s_parents__charged_in_her_death__are_suing_for_damages.html

Now, before your head blows off (like mine almost did)–”If a jury decides that the estate should get money, Orphans Court would decide who the beneficiaries would be, the attorneys said…Daniel and Andrea Kelly had to be named as administrators of the estate because they are Danieal’s parents….the parents were aware before they were criminally charged that they may not benefit from a civil suit, and they contend that the parents’ main concern in the suit is the welfare of Danieal’s siblings.”

Funny time to start worrying about your children’s welfare.

Danieal’s parents have filed a civil suit and are seeking more than $50,000 in damages, claiming that DHS, MultEthnic, etc. caused Danieal’s death.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080812_Danieal_Kelly_s_parents__charged_in_her_death__are_suing_for_damages.html

Now, before your head blows off (like mine almost did)–”If a jury decides that the estate should get money, Orphans Court would decide who the beneficiaries would be, the attorneys said…Daniel and Andrea Kelly had to be named as administrators of the estate because they are Danieal’s parents….the parents were aware before they were criminally charged that they may not benefit from a civil suit, and they contend that the parents’ main concern in the suit is the welfare of Danieal’s siblings.”

Funny time to start worrying about your children’s welfare.

Danieal’s older brother Troy Washington, 19, also is filing suit, claiming that he “has suffered substantial mental pain” from his sister’s death. His attorney reported that Troy tried to kill himself after Danieal died and was admitted to a psychiatric hospital.

“He viewed her dead body before she was removed by the Medical Examiner’s Office,” the attorney said. So, it sounds like everyone in the house could file a separate suit. As well as the paramedics, cops, etc.

Danieal’s older brother Troy Washington, 19, also is filing suit, claiming that he “has suffered substantial mental pain” from his sister’s death. His attorney reported that Troy tried to kill himself after Danieal died and was admitted to a psychiatric hospital.

“He viewed her dead body before she was removed by the Medical Examiner’s Office,” the attorney said. So, it sounds like everyone in the house could file a separate suit. As well as the paramedics, cops, etc.

Good news today–Andrea and Daniel Kelly were dropped from the suit. The two agreed to be removed as administrators of the estate and to have a trustee appointed instead.

Wry, this was an issue I raised, entirely hypothetically. blockquote>

Lizard and Solange — thanks for your answers. I see that you are looking to puzzle this out, too. I suspect whatever rationalizations these “workers” offer have their real basis in plain laziness. It’s so terrible that this girl was not sheltered in an institutional home and instead was handed over to uncaring Genital Units who did not want her.

Wry, this was an issue I raised, entirely hypothetically. blockquote>

Lizard and Solange — thanks for your answers. I see that you are looking to puzzle this out, too. I suspect whatever rationalizations these “workers” offer have their real basis in plain laziness. It’s so terrible that this girl was not sheltered in an institutional home and instead was handed over to uncaring Genital Units who did not want her.

The latest tidbits. Former MultiEthnic employee Julius Murray seems to have made a life out of lies and false documentation:

“Federal court documents say Murray entered the United States at Newark, N.J., on a non-immigrant visitor visa from his native Sierra Leone in September 1992.

When Murray’s visa expired in August 1993,…he sought asylum but was ordered deported when he did not show at his Dec. 5, 1996, deportation hearing.

A month later,…Murray’s attorney sent immigration officials a copy of a plane ticket and said Murray was flying home on Jan. 26, 1997.

Authorities now allege that Murray never left the United States. Instead, Murray showed up at U.S. immigration offices in New York City on April 27, 1997, under the name Julius J.M. Murray and applied for an immigrant alien visa.

In completing the form,…Murray swore he had never before visited or lived in the United States.”

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20080814_Social_worker_in_Danieal_Kelly_case_faces_deportation.html

Further, the estate/lawsuit issue appears to be getting more tangled. Someone comfortable reading about registers of wills, trustees, and estates may be able to summarize better than I can.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080814_Danieal_s_mom__but_not_dad__out_as_estate_administrator.html

Finally, “Andrea and Daniel have promised, if they escape conviction, to put one-third of any award into trust for the kids.

One-third. Wow!

Neither attorney could tell me what would happen to the other two-thirds.”

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080814_Stu_Bykofsky__Danieal_Kelly_would_be_just_SO_proud_of_her_parents.html

The latest tidbits. Former MultiEthnic employee Julius Murray seems to have made a life out of lies and false documentation:

“Federal court documents say Murray entered the United States at Newark, N.J., on a non-immigrant visitor visa from his native Sierra Leone in September 1992.

When Murray’s visa expired in August 1993,…he sought asylum but was ordered deported when he did not show at his Dec. 5, 1996, deportation hearing.

A month later,…Murray’s attorney sent immigration officials a copy of a plane ticket and said Murray was flying home on Jan. 26, 1997.

Authorities now allege that Murray never left the United States. Instead, Murray showed up at U.S. immigration offices in New York City on April 27, 1997, under the name Julius J.M. Murray and applied for an immigrant alien visa.

In completing the form,…Murray swore he had never before visited or lived in the United States.”

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20080814_Social_worker_in_Danieal_Kelly_case_faces_deportation.html

Further, the estate/lawsuit issue appears to be getting more tangled. Someone comfortable reading about registers of wills, trustees, and estates may be able to summarize better than I can.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080814_Danieal_s_mom__but_not_dad__out_as_estate_administrator.html

Finally, “Andrea and Daniel have promised, if they escape conviction, to put one-third of any award into trust for the kids.

One-third. Wow!

Neither attorney could tell me what would happen to the other two-thirds.”

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080814_Stu_Bykofsky__Danieal_Kelly_would_be_just_SO_proud_of_her_parents.html

An update on three of the DHS supervisors who were suspended a couple of weeks ago:

Janice Walker took early retirement. Otherwise, she would’ve been fired.

Pamela Mayo will be suspended for two days without pay.

Wesley Brown will be suspended for ten days without pay.

An update on three of the DHS supervisors who were suspended a couple of weeks ago:

Janice Walker took early retirement. Otherwise, she would’ve been fired.

Pamela Mayo will be suspended for two days without pay.

Wesley Brown will be suspended for ten days without pay.

An update on three of the DHS supervisors who were suspended a couple of weeks ago:

Janice Walker took early retirement. Otherwise, she would’ve been fired.

Pamela Mayo will be suspended for two days without pay.

Wesley Brown will be suspended for ten days without pay.

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this, for instance, making sure that workers are properly trained, making sure that the most vulnerable members of society are cared for. I wonder if some of the $400 billion that funded a war that did not catch or kill Osama Bin Ladin could have done that? Ya think???????????//

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this, for instance, making sure that workers are properly trained, making sure that the most vulnerable members of society are cared for. I wonder if some of the $400 billion that funded a war that did not catch or kill Osama Bin Ladin could have done that? Ya think???????????//

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this, for instance, making sure that workers are properly trained, making sure that the most vulnerable members of society are cared for. I wonder if some of the $400 billion that funded a war that did not catch or kill Osama Bin Ladin could have done that? Ya think???????????//

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this, for instance, making sure that workers are properly trained, making sure that the most vulnerable members of society are cared for. I wonder if some of the $400 billion that funded a war that did not catch or kill Osama Bin Ladin could have done that? Ya think???????????//

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this…

Alas, sugerglider, Philly DHS is amazingly well funded, and caseworkers oversee relatively few cases. In this instance, it’s less a money problem and more an organizational culture problem.

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this…

Alas, sugerglider, Philly DHS is amazingly well funded, and caseworkers oversee relatively few cases. In this instance, it’s less a money problem and more an organizational culture problem.

Sickening. Let’s hope we have a decent presidential administration next time around, one that will put money where it should go: to properly funding these agencies like this…

Alas, sugerglider, Philly DHS is amazingly well funded, and caseworkers oversee relatively few cases. In this instance, it’s less a money problem and more an organizational culture problem.

Alas, sugerglider, Philly DHS is amazingly well funded, and caseworkers oversee relatively few cases. In this instance, it’s less a money problem and more an organizational culture problem.

I see. Well, re-organize that money, then, and re-organize the organization…perhaps better screening is needed, better recruiting tactics. I’m reminded of the Couty Alexander thread and the attitudes that recently surfaced there from some of CA’s ambulance co-workers who clearly have zero actual compassion for the people they are supposed to help. You’d think people who get involved in care professions would do so because they are, in fact, caring people. But maybe that’s not the case.

Alas, sugerglider, Philly DHS is amazingly well funded, and caseworkers oversee relatively few cases. In this instance, it’s less a money problem and more an organizational culture problem.

I see. Well, re-organize that money, then, and re-organize the organization…perhaps better screening is needed, better recruiting tactics. I’m reminded of the Couty Alexander thread and the attitudes that recently surfaced there from some of CA’s ambulance co-workers who clearly have zero actual compassion for the people they are supposed to help. You’d think people who get involved in care professions would do so because they are, in fact, caring people. But maybe that’s not the case.

You’d think people who get involved in care professions would do so because they are, in fact, caring people.

Oh, from what I can tell, these are all very caring people. They all showed they care very much about their jobs and covering their asses.

You’d think people who get involved in care professions would do so because they are, in fact, caring people.

Oh, from what I can tell, these are all very caring people. They all showed they care very much about their jobs and covering their asses.

You’d think people who get involved in care professions would do so because they are, in fact, caring people.

Oh, from what I can tell, these are all very caring people. They all showed they care very much about their jobs and covering their asses.

Oh, from what I can tell, these are all very caring people. They all showed they care very much about their jobs and covering their asses.

In a word: Word.

Oh, from what I can tell, these are all very caring people. They all showed they care very much about their jobs and covering their asses.

In a word: Word.

The attorney for Danieal’s father Daniel Kelly asked for–and was denied–a bail reduction on Friday. A few hours later, Daniel Kelly posted bail.

Interesting aside: Kelly’s lawyer told the judge yesterday Kelly is employed as a loan officer, but a VP for the company has said that he was laid off in July because of the “tough” housing market. (Or a dead daughter and criminal charges.)

The attorney for Danieal’s father Daniel Kelly asked for–and was denied–a bail reduction on Friday. A few hours later, Daniel Kelly posted bail.

Interesting aside: Kelly’s lawyer told the judge yesterday Kelly is employed as a loan officer, but a VP for the company has said that he was laid off in July because of the “tough” housing market. (Or a dead daughter and criminal charges.)

The attorney for Danieal’s father Daniel Kelly asked for–and was denied–a bail reduction on Friday. A few hours later, Daniel Kelly posted bail.

Interesting aside: Kelly’s lawyer told the judge yesterday Kelly is employed as a loan officer, but a VP for the company has said that he was laid off in July because of the “tough” housing market. (Or a dead daughter and criminal charges.)

I thought this was an article about someone being charged for Danieal’s neglect, but it’s not. Turns out that to say that Julius Juma Murray, one of two employees of MultiEthnic Behavioral Health, is an illegal alien who lied on his application to get U.S. citizenship.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/27649734.html

Poor little girl, neglected and abused by the self-interested people around her. I hope no one else ever suffers a death like this one. The idea of her calling for water on the day she died is heartbreaking.

I thought this was an article about someone being charged for Danieal’s neglect, but it’s not. Turns out that to say that Julius Juma Murray, one of two employees of MultiEthnic Behavioral Health, is an illegal alien who lied on his application to get U.S. citizenship.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/27649734.html

Poor little girl, neglected and abused by the self-interested people around her. I hope no one else ever suffers a death like this one. The idea of her calling for water on the day she died is heartbreaking.

Although very very graphic, I think we should all look at the picture on page 18 of the report. It might give us a glimpse, a sliver, of what this poor little girl went through.

(pdf pg 23) this is fucking unbelievable… They clear the whole lot of employees out of all those agencies good or bad and start over… There is no excuse for their dis-organization. These agencies all need to have cross checking…

This mother needs to be Shot… sterilization is not good enough for her… WOW after she had Danieal – she should of quit !!!! i take that back after Daniel cause she can’t even come up with good names for the new babies…

why are her friends in their early 20′s – she has ruined lots of peoples lives… I feel bad Grandma didn’t go and make her own life years and years ago. Bless her heart she sounds like she atleast tried!

Sounds like the dad tried too until kathleen John left him and he moved out of Phoenix pg 29

Andrea should be getting goobs of money for child support with all them babies geeeeesh + they all qualify for social security … if she just does the paperwork … & section 8 … I just don’t get it

I do need to complain about this Multiethic thing. i need to read up on it but it sounds to me like its breaking the fair / equal rights act … sounds like they are SUPPOSE to recieve extra special services – This family has been living in PA- at least 14 yrs & names like kelly and washington don’t sound foreign. So Whats up with that ?

wowo post # 97 –

That fricken andrea including her children deserve no more the a trip to the plan parenthood to be sterilized – I am sorry but monitary value can’t be put on … the fact she had the kids she needed to provide for them. Andrea should be paying the people that took the time to make the reports she was a lousy caregiver……. wtf !

lock them up and loose the key !

Although very very graphic, I think we should all look at the picture on page 18 of the report. It might give us a glimpse, a sliver, of what this poor little girl went through.

(pdf pg 23) this is fucking unbelievable… They clear the whole lot of employees out of all those agencies good or bad and start over… There is no excuse for their dis-organization. These agencies all need to have cross checking…

This mother needs to be Shot… sterilization is not good enough for her… WOW after she had Danieal – she should of quit !!!! i take that back after Daniel cause she can’t even come up with good names for the new babies…

why are her friends in their early 20′s – she has ruined lots of peoples lives… I feel bad Grandma didn’t go and make her own life years and years ago. Bless her heart she sounds like she atleast tried!

Sounds like the dad tried too until kathleen John left him and he moved out of Phoenix pg 29

Andrea should be getting goobs of money for child support with all them babies geeeeesh + they all qualify for social security … if she just does the paperwork … & section 8 … I just don’t get it

I do need to complain about this Multiethic thing. i need to read up on it but it sounds to me like its breaking the fair / equal rights act … sounds like they are SUPPOSE to recieve extra special services – This family has been living in PA- at least 14 yrs & names like kelly and washington don’t sound foreign. So Whats up with that ?

wowo post # 97 –

That fricken andrea including her children deserve no more the a trip to the plan parenthood to be sterilized – I am sorry but monitary value can’t be put on … the fact she had the kids she needed to provide for them. Andrea should be paying the people that took the time to make the reports she was a lousy caregiver……. wtf !

lock them up and loose the key !

right above where caylee is not here! see the DD random video they are discussing a Music therepist that molested 2 artistic girls in their house, supposely they were in a room with the door closed. So beware warning who you leave alone with your kids… i think we have him feature but I didn’t catch the name.

right above where caylee is not here! see the DD random video they are discussing a Music therepist that molested 2 artistic girls in their house, supposely they were in a room with the door closed. So beware warning who you leave alone with your kids… i think we have him feature but I didn’t catch the name.

right above where caylee is not here! see the DD random video they are discussing a Music therepist that molested 2 artistic girls in their house, supposely they were in a room with the door closed. So beware warning who you leave alone with your kids… i think we have him feature but I didn’t catch the name.

his name is corey brown – door was locked so mom was suspcious and got a key and walked in…

again said i didnt have permission to edit whaaaaaaaa

his name is corey brown – door was locked so mom was suspcious and got a key and walked in…

again said i didnt have permission to edit whaaaaaaaa

I’ve just been introduced to DD about a week ago I was actually reading an article and it’s comments in the NY Daily News and 1 comment mentioned for the full story check out DD website…………. once here OMG!!! I have never in my life read about so much tragedy!!!! Well I happened to come upon Danieal’s story and my heart sank I mean I don’t even have the words to describe. My sister works for ACS out here in NY and the stories she’s told me is nothing compared to what I’ve read…. all I can say is thank you for bringing what’s done in the dark to light………..May Danieal RIP

I’ve just been introduced to DD about a week ago I was actually reading an article and it’s comments in the NY Daily News and 1 comment mentioned for the full story check out DD website…………. once here OMG!!! I have never in my life read about so much tragedy!!!! Well I happened to come upon Danieal’s story and my heart sank I mean I don’t even have the words to describe. My sister works for ACS out here in NY and the stories she’s told me is nothing compared to what I’ve read…. all I can say is thank you for bringing what’s done in the dark to light………..May Danieal RIP

I’ve just been introduced to DD about a week ago I was actually reading an article and it’s comments in the NY Daily News and 1 comment mentioned for the full story check out DD website…………. once here OMG!!! I have never in my life read about so much tragedy!!!! Well I happened to come upon Danieal’s story and my heart sank I mean I don’t even have the words to describe. My sister works for ACS out here in NY and the stories she’s told me is nothing compared to what I’ve read…. all I can say is thank you for bringing what’s done in the dark to light………..May Danieal RIP

Update 5/1/09

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6790693
The Unite States Attorney’s Office issued a 21-count indictment Friday charging 8 employees of a social service agency with defrauding the city and the federal government.
The indictment states that the employees falsely claimed to have provided services to needy families and then billing the city for services.
More at link including indictment documents.

Update 5/1/09

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6790693
The Unite States Attorney’s Office issued a 21-count indictment Friday charging 8 employees of a social service agency with defrauding the city and the federal government.
The indictment states that the employees falsely claimed to have provided services to needy families and then billing the city for services.
More at link including indictment documents.

Update 5/1/09

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6790693
The Unite States Attorney’s Office issued a 21-count indictment Friday charging 8 employees of a social service agency with defrauding the city and the federal government.
The indictment states that the employees falsely claimed to have provided services to needy families and then billing the city for services.
More at link including indictment documents.

Update 5/1/09

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6790693
The Unite States Attorney’s Office issued a 21-count indictment Friday charging 8 employees of a social service agency with defrauding the city and the federal government.
The indictment states that the employees falsely claimed to have provided services to needy families and then billing the city for services.
More at link including indictment documents.

i am a police officer and have seen a lot of shit but this story just haunts me. that beautiful little girl needed a lot of help, yes, but it could have been provided through adoption or possibly foster care – but who knows in that area.

here’s an update if you are interested: mom got 20 to 40 years. oh boy. the vaginal burper belched out kid #10 prior to being sentenced. there is never a shortage of ugly people getting laid is there?

the FBI got involved and 9 others have been charged. good deal. here is a link:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20090502_More_charges_in_Danieal_Kelly_s_death.html

i don’t want these people to rot in hell. i want them to stay alive in hell for an eternity and i want every pain that little Danieal felt to be applied over and over to their worthless flesh. what really bothers me is the other children – the ones who lived through this and watched this happen. are they future candidates for this web site? time will tell.

i have to go catch more bad guys. keep up the good work.

i am a police officer and have seen a lot of shit but this story just haunts me. that beautiful little girl needed a lot of help, yes, but it could have been provided through adoption or possibly foster care – but who knows in that area.

here’s an update if you are interested: mom got 20 to 40 years. oh boy. the vaginal burper belched out kid #10 prior to being sentenced. there is never a shortage of ugly people getting laid is there?

the FBI got involved and 9 others have been charged. good deal. here is a link:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20090502_More_charges_in_Danieal_Kelly_s_death.html

i don’t want these people to rot in hell. i want them to stay alive in hell for an eternity and i want every pain that little Danieal felt to be applied over and over to their worthless flesh. what really bothers me is the other children – the ones who lived through this and watched this happen. are they future candidates for this web site? time will tell.

i have to go catch more bad guys. keep up the good work.

i am a police officer and have seen a lot of shit but this story just haunts me. that beautiful little girl needed a lot of help, yes, but it could have been provided through adoption or possibly foster care – but who knows in that area.

here’s an update if you are interested: mom got 20 to 40 years. oh boy. the vaginal burper belched out kid #10 prior to being sentenced. there is never a shortage of ugly people getting laid is there?

the FBI got involved and 9 others have been charged. good deal. here is a link:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20090502_More_charges_in_Danieal_Kelly_s_death.html

i don’t want these people to rot in hell. i want them to stay alive in hell for an eternity and i want every pain that little Danieal felt to be applied over and over to their worthless flesh. what really bothers me is the other children – the ones who lived through this and watched this happen. are they future candidates for this web site? time will tell.

i have to go catch more bad guys. keep up the good work.

i am a police officer and have seen a lot of shit but this story just haunts me. that beautiful little girl needed a lot of help, yes, but it could have been provided through adoption or possibly foster care – but who knows in that area.

here’s an update if you are interested: mom got 20 to 40 years. oh boy. the vaginal burper belched out kid #10 prior to being sentenced. there is never a shortage of ugly people getting laid is there?

the FBI got involved and 9 others have been charged. good deal. here is a link:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20090502_More_charges_in_Danieal_Kelly_s_death.html

i don’t want these people to rot in hell. i want them to stay alive in hell for an eternity and i want every pain that little Danieal felt to be applied over and over to their worthless flesh. what really bothers me is the other children – the ones who lived through this and watched this happen. are they future candidates for this web site? time will tell.

i have to go catch more bad guys. keep up the good work.

found the mugshots and photos of the dimple dicks who killed this little girl. what may horrify you is to look at what they were charged with. with the exception of 2 or 3 the rest of them will be out in the workforce again soon.

http://media.myfoxphilly.com/slideshows/kellysuspects/1/details.htm#Dr.-Mickal-Kamuvakajpg

found the mugshots and photos of the dimple dicks who killed this little girl. what may horrify you is to look at what they were charged with. with the exception of 2 or 3 the rest of them will be out in the workforce again soon.

http://media.myfoxphilly.com/slideshows/kellysuspects/1/details.htm#Dr.-Mickal-Kamuvakajpg

found the mugshots and photos of the dimple dicks who killed this little girl. what may horrify you is to look at what they were charged with. with the exception of 2 or 3 the rest of them will be out in the workforce again soon.

http://media.myfoxphilly.com/slideshows/kellysuspects/1/details.htm#Dr.-Mickal-Kamuvakajpg

found the mugshots and photos of the dimple dicks who killed this little girl. what may horrify you is to look at what they were charged with. with the exception of 2 or 3 the rest of them will be out in the workforce again soon.

http://media.myfoxphilly.com/slideshows/kellysuspects/1/details.htm#Dr.-Mickal-Kamuvakajpg

This story still haunts me. I’m so glad that worthless cunt of a mother is going to do some serious hard time. I would really like to know what happened to all the other children, and that they are being properly taken care of.

This story still haunts me. I’m so glad that worthless cunt of a mother is going to do some serious hard time. I would really like to know what happened to all the other children, and that they are being properly taken care of.

This story still haunts me. I’m so glad that worthless cunt of a mother is going to do some serious hard time. I would really like to know what happened to all the other children, and that they are being properly taken care of.

4 Philadelphia Social Workers on Trial After Girl's Starvation Death

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584740,00.html