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Why did they name their baby “Eight?”

 
For the magic eight-ball?
 

Does anybody have an update on what happened to this pathetic excuse for a mother?

Why did they name their baby "Eight?"

I don't know if she's out of jail but she may have given her password to someone to tend to her MS. If she gave it to me, I would tard it up with guilty statements and garish themes. I would also friend every DD folk I knew so they could comment.

http://www.myspace.com/114hsp

Why does her myspace show last login as 8/7/08? Is she already out of jail?

RIP tiny, sweet, baby ocho, I'm sorry your time with us was cut so painfully short. May your scum of a "mama" rot in the bowls of hell forever and ever.

I'm not saying its all right or true! All I'm saying is that she should burn in hell for what she done, regardless what the facts are.... She is cold-hearted and dead inside for killing her own son!!!! For god sakes, she gut an innocent child out of lust!!!! This whole world is all fucked up and polluted with evil. "Just saying"

Um, maybe I’m reading a different story or something. This story was about a mother stabbing her infant son to death, right. I think a lot of the comments (my previous ones included) are shifting over to opinions about other stuff like how irresponsible it is to be a teen/young mother. HELLO, a beautiful BABY BOY WAS STABBED TO DEATH by his own mother. My gosh, what in the world would we have to comment about if the mother would have been a married 30 yr old women who was financially stable. Cuz, you know how those classy, MIDDLE-AGED, MIDDLE-CLASS broads NEVER hurt their kids right. I think that the main point is that this little baby boy is dead and that in itself is very, very sad.

LOVE STINKS ... Maybe, he was going to run her off with no stability and HIS family were going to go after custody... she made sure that wasn't going to happen. She probably had a broken heart - he may of been emotionally abusive, throwing up in her face another chick - how she wasn't taking HIS son ... She had no where to go and no job ... She thought about having to give up the child and pay child support... She LOST IT!
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my ex used to destroy furniture - Once he threaten to Ax up the Waterbed...
Maybe he wasn't home! Parents were sleeping ? He came running when she threaten ... him to come home NOW!
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we didn't have a baby but....

When you love someone that isn't loving you as much it hurts and you kinda loose your mind... I once threatened to ram my car into the telephone pole in front of my b/f's mothers driveway... because he was choosing to go motorcycling (ummm * no he wasn't inviting me along either) with his cousin Mike rather then spend Our day off work (Sunday) with me

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regardless GLORIAWITCH a very evil thing to do ... people living on the edge needs to seek help... woman shelters, women helping women, single parent groups - rrrrreach out for help !!!

Think I’ll go back to being a fly on the wall. I really felt like it was time that I stopped my “browsing-only” habit and finally add a few comments of my own. Didn’t know that it would leave me feeling more shitty than when I was visiting the site as a “guest”. Fading back to my “browsing-only” routine. Won’t impose anymore.

Erm...you should refrain from holding in your farts. Didn't you know that's what causes shitty attitudes?

I'm sorry, but it seems like most of the people on this site tend to, oh, I dunno, use punctuation, somewhat-decent grammar, and...stuff. I'd like to say more but I dislike flies...so...


Back to the regularly scheduled programming.

As far as being a teen and knowing everything, well I wouldn’t know about that because I’m 26. Sorry to confuse everyone with my um, “teenage language”. Even though I never intended to come off this way, I’m sorry for IMPOSING my immature, inexperienced, arrogant confidence on everyone. Think I’ll go back to being a fly on the wall. I really felt like it was time that I stopped my “browsing-only” habit and finally add a few comments of my own. Didn’t know that it would leave me feeling more shitty than when I was visiting the site as a “guest”. Fading back to my “browsing-only” routine. Won’t impose anymore.

Good.

Many, if not all acts of vicious behavior are believed to be associated to bad spirits or a negative force in the spiritual breaking loose. In this case someone overestimated the power of “Brujeria” or witch craft. Spirits say, voodoo or an evil spell was cast down on this girl on that night. She was under the works of Satan! Keep your ears and your eyes open on this….

I believe the act of posting that was caused by bran muffins. You've underestimated the power of fiber and have shit out all your common sense. Keep your asshole open on this...

Does Satan know someone has been under his "works"???

Ignorance is Truly A Bliss....

Many, if not all acts of vicious behavior are believed to be associated to bad spirits or a negative force in the spiritual breaking loose. In this case someone overestimated the power of “Brujeria” or witch craft. Spirits say, voodoo or an evil spell was cast down on this girl on that night. She was under the works of Satan! Keep your ears and your eyes open on this….

So, Satan made her do it.

Out of curiosity, when was your last alien anal probe? Just wonderin'.

Many, if not all acts of vicious behavior are believed to be associated to bad spirits or a negative force in the spiritual breaking loose. In this case someone overestimated the power of “Brujeria” or witch craft. Spirits say, voodoo or an evil spell was cast down on this girl on that night. She was under the works of Satan! Keep your ears and your eyes open on this….

Yeah, I think the court's gonna go with that one. Last time I checked the 'devil-made-me-do-it' defense rarely works. If ever.

Unless of course the spirits are willing to testify on her behalf.

Just sayin.

Many, if not all acts of vicious behavior are believed to be associated to bad spirits or a negative force in the spiritual breaking loose. In this case someone overestimated the power of "Brujeria" or witch craft. Spirits say, voodoo or an evil spell was cast down on this girl on that night. She was under the works of Satan! Keep your ears and your eyes open on this....

Yet another reason why the US should make people qualify for a child rearing license BEFORE being allowed to have children. You know, like China.

As for the, cunt in the story, it really is sad that one of the people in the house didn’t have the presence of mind to help this bitch finish what she started. I know I’d get a big laugh out of it if she dies a slow painful death caused by infection of her self inflicted wounds.

So with you Harley.

I never once singled out or put down anyone (except the murdering mother in this story). Personally I like this site a lot. I spend a lot of time reading the stories, comments, and forums. Heck, I like it so much that I pitched in $50 to try to help the site out because I appreciate it's purpose.
Harley, I take offense to ALL of the assumptions that were made about me as none of them were anything close to being true. For the record, I'm 26 and although I gained a stepson at the age of 20 I didn't become a "real" mother until I was 23. My husband of 6 years is a successful contractor so we do not need or expect any financial help from anyone. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I never stabbed, jabbed, or even poked my son with a knife. Hmm, guess this story did hit close to home.

As far as being a teen and knowing everything, well I wouldn't know about that because I'm 26. Sorry to confuse everyone with my um, "teenage language". Even though I never intended to come off this way, I'm sorry for IMPOSING my immature, inexperienced, arrogant confidence on everyone. Think I'll go back to being a fly on the wall. I really felt like it was time that I stopped my "browsing-only" habit and finally add a few comments of my own. Didn't know that it would leave me feeling more shitty than when I was visiting the site as a "guest". Fading back to my "browsing-only" routine. Won't impose anymore. Have a good day everyone.
R.I.P. Lil' Baby Ocho

Um, maybe I’m reading a different story or something. This story was about a mother stabbing her infant son to death, right. I think a lot of the comments (my previous ones included) are shifting over to opinions about other stuff like how irresponsible it is to be a teen/young mother. HELLO, a beautiful BABY BOY WAS STABBED TO DEATH by his own mother. My gosh, what in the world would we have to comment about if the mother would have been a married 30 yr old women who was financially stable. Cuz, you know how those classy, MIDDLE-AGED, MIDDLE-CLASS broads NEVER hurt their kids right. I think that the main point is that this little baby boy is dead and that in itself is very, very sad.

Harley, you couldn't tell this poster is a teen from her language? HELLO!

Yeah, 30 is middle-aged when you're not old enough to drive! And when you're a teen somehow you know everything! Don't you remember those fine years of imposing your immature, inexperienced, arrogant confidence on everyone around you!

i live with my husband and kids in a single family home in a good neighborhood he is the father to both. we got married after i found out i was pregnant with my first daughter that was unplanned but the second one was planned because im unable to have children anymore. no welfare section 8 wic or anything. we do it on our own.

It sounds like you and your husband are more responsible than most teen parents. From what I've seen, teen moms frequently think if they get pregnant, they will get married and live happily ever after, thinking a baby will make them grown up and bind their boyfriend to them. Most of the time the boy has no interest in or intention of taking on the responsibilties of a man, so mom is on her own.
I think the most important thing you can do for your children is to create a stable, healthy family for them to grow up in. I'm glad to hear you are working on providing that for them.
That said, will you tell your daughter that it's okay for her to get pregnant at 16?
(30 isn't middle aged, 30 is downright old! Didn't you know?)

Um, maybe I’m reading a different story or something. This story was about a mother stabbing her infant son to death, right. I think a lot of the comments (my previous ones included) are shifting over to opinions about other stuff like how irresponsible it is to be a teen/young mother.

I don't really think its a matter of reading a different story. I do believe you misunderstand the forum and its purpose.
What you see here, it is the discussion of a story, and in social settings like DD, people do discuss their opinions as to root cause so that discussion can and does evolve into other areas.

Based on your comments, I'm not at all surprised that what goes on in a social setting is foreign to you.

There are plenty of blogs that dictate a sterile directly on topic discussion of the posted story. I personally find them boring and populated by very boring, anal people.

It sounds like you might be interested in such a place. I don't think you will find that here. The membership of DD is far too intelligent, witty, and diverse for that.

My gosh, what in the world would we have to comment about if the mother would have been a married 30 yr old women who was financially stable. Cuz, you know how those classy, MIDDLE-AGED, MIDDLE-CLASS broads NEVER hurt their kids right. I think that the main point is that this little baby boy is dead and that in itself is very, very sad.

Ahhhh, now I understand. It's usually teenagers or very young adults that think 30 years old is middle age, so one might surmise that the comments you are talking about hit a little close to home.

As for the, cunt in the story, it really is sad that one of the people in the house didn't have the presence of mind to help this bitch finish what she started. I know I'd get a big laugh out of it if she dies a slow painful death caused by infection of her self inflicted wounds.

Welcome to the site.

R

yes, im sorry i was only trying to make a point. i hope this girl rots in hell and her ovaries get ripped out. and god bless the baby.

Brit Says, I think I hear what you're saying. But -- like Athena said -- you shouldn't take offense. It sounds like you ARE trying to take responsibility. And there is no comparison to you and "Pichy". None, whatsoever.

When a child is loved and cared for in this world, who can criticize? Quite frankly, I admire that you've been able to keep it together at such a young age. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to do that at your age. I wouldn't have killed my child like "Pichy" -- for starters, my mom would have killed me first -- but I digress.

If you love and care for those babies, you're doing great!

IMHO, that was a generalization. Also IMHO, any woman who has children without being married/secure relationship and can not logistically and financially take care of them ON THEIR OWN is irresponsible. Since birth control, adoption and abortion are legal and available I find it utterly stupid. I know shit happens. Well, if shit happens take it to heart, learn from your mistakes and don’t let is happen again and again. Personally find it appalling that with all these choices woman find themselves in this same situation over and over. Also 18 year old mom of 2, I am glad and give you props for taking care of and loving your kids. Do you live on your on? Where is dad? DO you collect welfare, foodstamps, WIC, Medicare, on section 8? If not great. If SO you live partly on my dime. Do you live with your folks? Dad’s folks? I am not trying to belittle you. I only ask these questions because the truth of the matter is until you are completely self-reliant you are not fully responsible. Maybe you are working to that, maybe in school and on your way . I hope so. As a taxpayer I am willing to help cause I am not an monster, keep having kids and I want no part of it. I promise I am not hating you, or any other young moms just asking you to really think about it. No one on this planet OWES anyone anything.

i live with my husband and kids in a single family home in a good neighborhood he is the father to both. we got married after i found out i was pregnant with my first daughter that was unplanned but the second one was planned because im unable to have children anymore. no welfare section 8 wic or anything. we do it on our own.

Um, maybe I’m reading a different story or something. This story was about a mother stabbing her infant son to death, right. I think a lot of the comments (my previous ones included) are shifting over to opinions about other stuff like how irresponsible it is to be a teen/young mother. HELLO, a beautiful BABY BOY WAS STABBED TO DEATH by his own mother. My gosh, what in the world would we have to comment about if the mother would have been a married 30 yr old women who was financially stable. Cuz, you know how those classy, MIDDLE-AGED, MIDDLE-CLASS broads NEVER hurt their kids right. I think that the main point is that this little baby boy is dead and that in itself is very, very sad.

yes, im sorry i was only trying to make a point. i hope this girl rots in hell and her ovaries get ripped out. and god bless the baby.

Of course, a baby boy being dead is sad. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Oh, you're so very welcome. Let me know if there's anything else that you may need help with, ok.
Have a wonderful day!

My gosh, what in the world would we have to comment about if the mother would have been a married 30 yr old women who was financially stable. Cuz, you know how those classy, MIDDLE-AGED, MIDDLE-CLASS broads NEVER hurt their kids right. I think that the main point is that this little baby boy is dead and that in itself is very, very sad.

Since when is age 30 "middle-aged"?

Of course, a baby boy being dead is sad. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

One of the reasons some of us read these posts is to try to understand why these horrible things happen. People being irresponsible is one of those causes. Irresponsible people often make really bad decisions early in life, hence the analysis on teenage pregnancy.

Mama stabbed her infant- than herself.

Mama did too good of a job on the baby and not a good enough job on her damn self. I hope that her precious baby's face is all she sees when she closes her eyes at night.

Must be, I Snort Coke. Much higher class you know.
STUPID...
I know what it's about. Dumbass, do I have ta spell it out?
Mama stabbed her infant- than herself.

Um, maybe I'm reading a different story or something. This story was about a mother stabbing her infant son to death, right. I think a lot of the comments (my previous ones included) are shifting over to opinions about other stuff like how irresponsible it is to be a teen/young mother. HELLO, a beautiful BABY BOY WAS STABBED TO DEATH by his own mother. My gosh, what in the world would we have to comment about if the mother would have been a married 30 yr old women who was financially stable. Cuz, you know how those classy, MIDDLE-AGED, MIDDLE-CLASS broads NEVER hurt their kids right. I think that the main point is that this little baby boy is dead and that in itself is very, very sad.

And my point was that while, yes, it’s irresponsible to plan for a child when you’re unprepared, it’s also irresponsible to not prevent pregnancy if you’re not ready. It can be done! In fact, every woman I know that truly didn’t want a baby has managed to not get pregnant. And even allowing for one accidental pregnancy, two? Before 18? Come on!

Yes, while planning to get pregnant while a teen is remarkably stupid, just letting it happen because you can't deal with birth control is also remarkably stupid.

i take a bit of offense to that. im an 18 year old mother of two. I love my kids more than life never once have i hurt them or plan on it. not all teenage parents suck at life. not all teenagers are irresponsible.

IMHO, that was a generalization. Also IMHO, any woman who has children without being married/secure relationship and can not logistically and financially take care of them ON THEIR OWN is irresponsible. Since birth control, adoption and abortion are legal and available I find it utterly stupid. I know shit happens. Well, if shit happens take it to heart, learn from your mistakes and don't let is happen again and again. Personally find it appalling that with all these choices woman find themselves in this same situation over and over. Also 18 year old mom of 2, I am glad and give you props for taking care of and loving your kids. Do you live on your on? Where is dad? DO you collect welfare, foodstamps, WIC, Medicare, on section 8? If not great. If SO you live partly on my dime. Do you live with your folks? Dad's folks? I am not trying to belittle you. I only ask these questions because the truth of the matter is until you are completely self-reliant you are not fully responsible. Maybe you are working to that, maybe in school and on your way . I hope so. As a taxpayer I am willing to help cause I am not an monster, keep having kids and I want no part of it. I promise I am not hating you, or any other young moms just asking you to really think about it. No one on this planet OWES anyone anything.

you people are just jumping on the band wagon and not thinking for yourselves.

I don't need a bandwagon to jump on to know that getting stabby on your kid is wrong.

Since many of the reports I read came from what neighbors and relatives were saying, I have no reason to doubt them. They were there. I'm sure the cops also had a good talk with them and with mommy dearest before her arrest.

In thinking for myself, I think that she did it and then tried to do herself. Failed at mothering, failed at suicide. Ain't peachy to be her.

Thanks. I was going to respond, but was too lazy to get the links. It will be the same as it always is. We post retractions, but idiots like prsketch will not. I think in all of our time ere, we have one…maybe two people admit they were wrong out of the seemingly hundreds of people who come on here stating similar things as prsketch has. Bah.

You're welcome Morbid. I just hate when this site is accused of something that is not true. I used the search option you put on this page to find the links..;)

You are dead wrong when you say, “I bet I would not see any one of you people jump up and type a retraction.” This site does post that they made a mistake! See: http://www.dreamindemon.com/20.....d-her-son/ and
http://www.dreamindemon.com/20.....after-all/
Now when you are wrong, admit it!

Thanks. I was going to respond, but was too lazy to get the links. It will be the same as it always is. We post retractions, but idiots like prsketch will not. I think in all of our time ere, we have one...maybe two people admit they were wrong out of the seemingly hundreds of people who come on here stating similar things as prsketch has. Bah.

you people are all talking about how she did something wrong but the two stories don’t match. One minute the baby’s father is home then the next minute he is not… there is more to this story and all you people are doing is judging a young woman that we still don’t know if she really did it. now if it was her then it was and you people can say what you want but now if it is found that it wasn’t her I bet I would not see any one of you people jump up and type a retraction, And in your one track mind would believe that it was her and you don’t think you are wrong…. you people are just jumping on the band wagon and not thinking for yourselves.

You are dead wrong when you say, "I bet I would not see any one of you people jump up and type a retraction." This site does post that they made a mistake! See: http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/04/04/erin-bri... and
http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/05/29/erin-mar...
Now when you are wrong, admit it!

you people are all talking about how she did something wrong but the two stories don't match. One minute the baby's father is home then the next minute he is not... there is more to this story and all you people are doing is judging a young woman that we still don't know if she really did it. now if it was her then it was and you people can say what you want but now if it is found that it wasn't her I bet I would not see any one of you people jump up and type a retraction, And in your one track mind would believe that it was her and you don't think you are wrong.... you people are just jumping on the band wagon and not thinking for yourselves.

The fact that your babies ended up in your arms and not in the dumpsters outside your house (or behind the “clinic”) shows responsibility.

Wow. You have a much more inclusive definition of "responsibility" than I do. Simply not tossing your baby into the dumpster is setting the standard for responsible parenting kind of low, don't you think?

Last time I checked, people didn’t grow out of the “Baby Murdering” phase. It doesn’t stop once you become an adult…like acne or eye rolling or something.

No, but people do grow out of the phase of thinking that every fight you have with your "baby-daddy" is a life-or-death situation. The family described what happened as a "temper tantrum" (wtf?), which is something that decreases with age.

And my point was that while, yes, it's irresponsible to plan for a child when you're unprepared, it's also irresponsible to not prevent pregnancy if you're not ready. It can be done! In fact, every woman I know that truly didn't want a baby has managed to not get pregnant. And even allowing for one accidental pregnancy, two? Before 18? Come on!

I have to say something...again. I don't think this mother's age had much to do with the fact that she murdered her baby. She was a crazy, selfish, stupid bitch and that had everything to do with her being capable of hurting her son. Like I said before, mothers OF ALL AGES have harmed their kids, not just teens. I think for people to say her age was a factor not only excuses her actions in a way but also makes a pretty blind generalization. A baby-killing monster is a baby-killing monster, regardless of age. Last time I checked, people didn't grow out of the "Baby Murdering" phase. It doesn't stop once you become an adult...like acne or eye rolling or something.
Btw, kudos to you Brit, I think the fact that you are raising your 2 kids is being very responsible. I think it may be somewhat irresponsible to sit there and PLAN a child at any age if you are not prepared (financially, emotionally, etc). I'm pretty sure you weren't there watching you ovulation calendar hoping to get pregnant. The fact that your babies ended up in your arms and not in the dumpsters outside your house (or behind the "clinic") shows responsibility.

Classy ! Why don't they just kill themselves? Poor baby had no choice.

i take a bit of offense to that. im an 18 year old mother of two. I love my kids more than life never once have i hurt them or plan on it. not all teenage parents suck at life. not all teenagers are irresponsible.

I've got to speak my mind here- while not all teenagers are responsible, teenagers who have two babies by the age of 18 are irresponsible. There is no way you are ready to deal with the responsibilty of dealing with one child, let alone two, by age 18. Even assuming you had a trust fund and finances were not an issue. And after having the first one, this should have been blatantly obvious.

I'm not trying to be mean here, but please, for the love of god, do not teach your daughter that it's okay to have two babies by the age of 18. It's absolutely not.

i take a bit of offense to that. im an 18 year old mother of two. I love my kids more than life never once have i hurt them or plan on it. not all teenage parents suck at life. not all teenagers are irresponsible.

If it doesn't apply to you, why would you take offense? No parent who is confident with their parenting ability should take offense to anything I say.

That being said, while I agree that not all teenagers are irresponsible, the ones with babies generally are. Typically, that's how they wound up with a baby. Now, some girls get pregnant because they are raped or because of contraceptive failure. But the vast majority get pregnant because they're having unprotected sex while not on birth control, which is, by its very nature, irresponsible.

No one is comfortable about teenagers having children, not even teenagers. However please don’t label this because of age, we have seen other older mothers do similar if not worse things to their children.


Pregnancy pacts and other such nonsense suggests otherwise. As for labeling this an age thing, I'd hope you knew me a little better than that, by now. CLEARLY, not all teens are bad parents, and not all bad parents are teens. I'm talking about brain chemistry and development, though. Because of brain development, teens simply aren't as capable as adults are, generally speaking. They are more prone to impulsive behavior. This is why you don't receive a full set of rights until 21, and you don't get an insurance discount until you're 25.

That's the only point I was trying to make.

We, as a society, don’t feel comfortable allowing them alcohol or handguns at the age of 18. Why should we feel comfortable about them having kids? Unfortunately, we’re forced to feel comfortable with it because we can’t do much to prevent it.

No one is comfortable about teenagers having children, not even teenagers. However please don't label this because of age, we have seen other older mothers do similar if not worse things to their children.

I can't believe she used the baby against the father like that, as though that would solve anything. To her it was just a pawn, a burden and possession. Which is disgusting. People seem to take their frustration out on the helpless which is more than sad, probably because people on their own capabilities are able to defend themselves and it is a power trip.

Too bad Dad didn't drive that knife she used on herself deeper, perhaps then he would have some justice for his son.

It is quite sad how people can just loose it, the sad part is it is a child that seems to be in the way when they loose control. I agree.. eye 4a eye