John Cellner Is A Baby-Burning Bastard
Filed under: Assault, Burning, Child Abuse, Child Neglect, Domestic Violence
UPDATE 7/12/08 - Clarissa Pierce, 22, has been charged with felony child neglect for failure to seek medical help for her two year old son Nicholas for five days while the child suffered with second and third degree burns over 50% of his body. The burns were inflicted by John Cellner, Pierce’s boyfriend. Pierce is being held in the Ottawa County Jail on $150,000 bond.
Wyandotte, OK - John Cellner thought he could pass it off as a radiator gone wrong. Cellner, 23, is accused of burning his girlfriend’s two-year-old son, Nicholas, from neck to knees, front and back. The toddler has third degree burns, some of which have already required skin grafts. Even worse? It took five days for the child to get medical help. Five days, people. How do you look a baby in the face and just decide not to get him help for excruciating trauma for FIVE DAYS?
The child’s name is being withheld (edit: the child’s name is Nicholas.), but I think his mother’s name is Clarissa, unless John’s got a new girlfriend. (edit : it is Clarissa. She’s now been charged as well.) On June 27, the little boy was somehow scalded so severely that his skin peeled off - he had second and third degree burns over fifty percent of his body. And yet nobody took Nicholas to a doctor. It wasn’t until he was taken to the Sunshine Clinic in Miami, Oklahoma on July 2 that anything at all was done for the little boy.
At the clinic, it was quickly obvious there was a big problem. Staff had Nicholas transferred to a hospital in Tulsa and then hotlined the family. The toddler was treated in the burn unit of the Tulsa hospital while investigators talked to the mother and to Cellner. Cellner first said that he opened a radiator cap and the contents sprayed the child, but that didn’t work based on the burn patterns, so investigators went out to look at Cellner’s vehicle. They didn’t see anything wrong with it.
Cellner’s story started changing. He couldn’t keep it straight. The latest and apparently final version is that he took off the radiator cap, it sprayed the child, and he responded to the spray by grabbing Nicholas and holding him under scalding water for “between three and fifteen minutes” because…. get this… he “didn’t know the water was hot.”
Yeah, he’s a genius, that John Cellner. But don’t paint all Okies with the same brush, because the Ottawa County Sheriff’s office had the good sense to call bullshit on the steamiest pile in Wyandotte. John Cellner was arrested on Thursday and charged with felony child abuse. He’s being held in the Ottawa County Jail on $250,000 bond.
UPDATE - On Friday, July 11, charges were filed against the child’s mother, Clarissa Pierce. Pierce, 22, has been charged with felony child neglect for failure to seek medical help for Nicholas for five days while the child suffered with second and third degree burns over 50% of his body. Pierce is being held in the Ottawa County Jail on $150,000 bond.
I’m glad you are “thinking like a Mommy.” I love that phrase. And it promises well for this little baby.
This trait could cause her a great deal of heartache in the future and may even put her in danger. I hope you are able to temper her resoluteness. It is human nature when we are just entering adult life though, I guess. Jane Austen wrote about it in one of her novels, so human nature hasn’t changed much.
Yeah just too bad I can’t get any cooperation from the dad’s family. I’ve jumped through hoops trying to contact him today and have had no luck at all.
MAybe if they don’t see a phone number they recognize in the caller ID, they might answer. When you talk to CASA, mention this to them.
R
I have called grandma, grandpa, aunt, and great grandma, and have MySpaced dad and uncle. LoL I don’t think they are going to cooperate considering dad read my message and didn’t respond or call me. But I’m calling the judges office in the morning to reqqest CASA be put on this case.
you can try contacting Crystal Huff at 918-787-6481 or 1-800-742-2272
or e-mail her at 13jdcasaok@sbcglobal.net
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Does it matter what county? Because that is a Grove number which is in Delaware and the case is in Ottawa?
http://www.oklahomacasa.org/ProgramDir.aspx
She is listed as director for Ottawa county.
R
Sorry I took so long, I tried posting that 3 different times before it took. I don’t know what the issue was, but it seems to be resolved now.
R
Babys_auntie: kudos to you for being strong!!!!!
Can I ask a small question…I’m not sure if you already addressed this, my apologies if you did, but: I got a little confused through the thread with the similarities between your tag (babys_auntie) and Erica’s tag. Did you see the burns? And DID they actually look like a suntan? That just sounds so impossible.
ok john is the only one who has abused nicholas (yes thank you for going in my myspace!) but we had thought it was his sperm donor as nick always said daddy hit me but there for awhile nick was callin john daddy
No I didn’t see the burns. So I really can’t comment on any of that.
And as far as an update goes, Clarissa and John had their arraignment this morning and John is scheduled to return to court on the 16th of July for a bond reduction, and Clarissa is scheduled to return on the 28th of July but her lawyer is supposed to ask for a bond reduction today so she will most likely go back earlier than that.
yes i am very stubborn i always have been and i always will be
i love my little with my life and i feel useless and helpless right as i am only 16 and cant really help
and yes like my myspace said that little boy is my life and i would do anything for him as i have tried helping R (randi is her name btw sorry if u get mad at me for putting that there but im pretty sure since harley has found everything about me lol he will find it eventually) me and babysgreataunt went to dhs this morning as did randi and i and randi and i also tried contacting casa…she just told me over the phone that the lady that she needs to talk to is not in today so we will try again tomorrow…we are doing everything in our power to try and get this baby with someone he knows
the grandparents and matt and all them dont know my cell number and i am trying to call them as i type this and i will let you know if they answer….and no answer
yes i know my sister is in the wrong for not taking nick to the dr when she first found out about the burns..but once again i love my sister with my whole heart and no honestly i cannot see her doing anything to hurt a child…
Nope, I figured they already knew my name as they knew everyone elses. LoL
also if any of you would like to see more pics of nicholas and me and clarissa and the rest of the family my myspace is http://www.myspace.com/pure_romantic as i am already sure some of you know lol
lol k just checkin o n btw no one answered any of my calls when i tried callin matt n them
and i do believe i am leaving comments under sheilas name lol am i correct?
k just so everyone knows tha last three comments made my babysgreataunt was actually sposed to be from me (erica) i forgot to sign out of my aunts name and put in mine
Imagine that
bout them not answerin? or me forgettin to log in lol
lol both, but i was actually talking about them not answering
lol oh ok
Babysauntie, Im glad to hear that you have committed yourself to helping Nicholas, you have my full support as well. I know that when you are pregnant, motherly instincts are strong, but once you actually have that baby, it will strengthen tenfold, and you will truly be able to understand just how horrible it is for a mother to not get help for her child. Thank you and Erica for coming on here and posting, it is good to hear updates on Nicholas and please let us know how he is doing once you know more
i just called dhs to see if me n randi and sheila (babys_auntie and babysgreatauntie) could see nick and the lady i talked to said she would get back to me either tomorrow or wednesday..i will let you all know if we get to see him and if we do i will also let you all know how he is doing
–erica–
Thank you. We all are very interested in how the little guy is doing. I hope he’s not suffering too much.
well this is sheila nicky’s greataunt i normaly babysit him but i had to go out of town for three weeks because of work. i wish i had been home… maybe if i was at home my lil man would not have been hurt…its a good thing that the police got to john before i got home…i could have saved all the taxpayers alot of money but then again if i would have done what i wanted to do to him then i would not be here for my lil man when he needs me most…
lmao omg sheila forgot to sign out just like i did so i guess she got me back for writin under her name lmao
Thank you. We all are very interested in how the little guy is doing. I hope he’s not suffering too much.
same here
like i said that little boy is my life and my world so….
I’m having to laugh at Dreamin’ Demon being used by family members to trick each other!
But seriously, it is so good to see all the “aunties” sticking up for that beautiful baby.
i have clarissas phone and there is a video on it of nick and everytime i see it it makes me cry!!!
lol me and sheila live together and we always forget to sign out of our stuff so it happens a lot
LoL neither of you two are very bright are ya? Anyways WWWHHHOOOOO!!! I got all paperwork for DHS filled out, now if i could get some help standing on my head, spinning around 15 times and jumping through hoops of fire it would be greatly appreciated! Nah really I got most of paperwork filled out, just have to have Bj (uncle) sign his parts and go have physicals….hopefully have all done within the nxt couple of days.
LoL, Erica, remember on the way home from Wichita and “How much is that doggy in the window?” lolololol
lmao hang on which part r u laughin about? bj doin it? nick doin it? or clarissa saying that dogs ruff n not bark? lmao ruffing!!!!
hang on y does b have to have physicals?
All of it…..and we all have to have physicals, everyone in the house just to make sure we can physically take care of him, however I hope they give me some slack due to being alomst 9 months pregnant!!!
so since me n sheila are requesting him as well we will have to have em right?
Well first of all like I told you yesterday, you aren’t doing anything, you can’t. I know it is irritating, but that’s just how it is sweety. Sheila and her husband are requesting him, but EVERYONE in the house has to have a Dr. say they are mentally and physically able to take care of Nick, including the other child that lives in the home, it’s in the paperwork Sheila got, have you guys not read over it yet? Sheila will also have to provide shot records for all animals in home, marriage license, and divorce decrees for past divorces, SS cards, Drivers License and insurance for those that drive, a financial report, a family health history report, W2s, and a statement from Sheilas work saying how many weekly hours she works. LoL there’s alot she will have to get so she probably needs to get started if she hasn’t already.
That is alot of stuff to fill out, good luck guys. I know it’s time consuming, but don’t give up, Nicholas needs you. Thanks for the updates, keep em coming, we are rooting for you
Being stubborn is not a character trait, it’s a character flaw. And 16 is young to be stating, “I have a character flaw and I will not work to change it, I will inflict it upon myself and those around me for the rest of my life.”
There are good aspects to being stubborn in special situations, such as not quitting when there is something you want. But I get the feeling that you are talking about being “unreasonably, often perversely unyielding; bullheaded” as a dictionary describes it.
As I said earlier, this trait is just going to cause the people around you a lot of misery and may even put you in danger someday. So please consider how you can at least become more aware of this flaw and not make it something of which you are proud — and stubborn about changing.
Oh Wry you hit it head on!!!!
I am confused Sorry been away from the forum fighting a battle of my own.
Sorry if i am being nosey just one of my traits LOL
Anyway Are both you all trying to get custody of the baby?
If so would it not look better if just one tried and the others offered support to that one??
Just saying maybe it would look more of a joining of the family sort of like a total family effort instead of looking like everyone is out for themselves or something??
Just wondering as I said Just nosey like that. Mind you I have never dealt with these type situations so I have no experience with this type thing and may be totally off the mark here.
I do pray for lil Nick every day.
He is an adorable little guy and I hope that he can heal and get therapy, and get through all this without too much scaring either mentally or physically.
Yes both of us are trying to get him, and yes it would look better for just one of us to try to get him, but explaining anything to this family is like pulling teeth, and it’s not worth the headache at this point I’m just worried about Nick getting to one of us I don’t care which one it is.
Yes both of us are trying to get him, and yes it would look better for just one of us to try to get him, but explaining anything to this family is like pulling teeth, and it’s not worth the headache at this point I’m just worried about Nick getting to one of us I don’t care which one it is.
R
as i am nickys great aunt i babyset him. The case worker said that i needed to fill out the paperwork for kinship care. however it will take a long time for me to get all the inforemation that i need because my husband has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times finding all the paperwork from 30 years ago is causing a big problem.but we are putting up a united front as a family… it dont matter to me who gets to take care of nicky as long as it is one of the family that he knows… like i said before i will continue to take care of him when who ever gets him needs a babysitter.
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as i am nickys great aunt i babyset him. The case worker said that i needed to fill out the paperwork for kinship care. however it will take a long time for me to get all the inforemation that i need because my husband has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times finding all the paperwork from 30 years ago is causing a big problem.but we are putting up a united front as a family… it dont matter to me who gets to take care of nicky as long as it is one of the family that he knows… like i said before i will continue to take care of him when who ever gets him needs a babysitter.
S
Ok, went to court this morning for Johns bail reduction hearing…..it was yesterday……so I called his mom and asked her what was going on. She said the judge wouldn’t budge on his bail not even a cent! And she told me the judge told them that he better be glad he has a bail amount at all and itsn’t in there with no bond. Clarissa still doesn’t have a bail reduction date yet. Also I believe we are going to get to see Nick next week!!!! YAY!!!! I miss him sooooo much! Wish us luck!
Good for the Judge here. Sounds like the right guy to be overseeing this trial.
Good luck, Hope you get to see nic soon. I’m sure he misses family.
R
That’s just the criminal side though, the Deprived Child case is on Tues I believe, but I don’t think we will be allowed to attend, however I’m going to try, all they can do is ask me to leave. It’s worth a try.
family meeting on the 23 with childwellfare ottawa dhs needs names and addresses of all family and friends interested in Nickys wellfare
Good luck you guys. I hope you get to see him soon. I sure he misses you guys as much or more.
We’re all pulling for you and the little guy!