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		<title>By: solange822001</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30294</link>
		<dc:creator>solange822001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The outcome could have been the same and I would blame stupid carelessness just as harshly as murder. Itâ€™s not as if the girl wouldnâ€™t have been quite so dead because her relatives didnâ€™t intentionally treat her as expendable. And if I were her parents Iâ€™d sure see something as bad as malicious intent in their careless failure to take good care of my daughter when she visits them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have to agree with Wry on this one. Although I&#039;m sure it was not an intentional act to leave the child in the minivan, they chose to be neglectful. That is a HUGE mistake to make, that isn&#039;t something that happens to the average human being (oops, didnt notice that a kid Im taking care of was missing for an entire night). This is a freaking FIVE year old. My son is 7 and he still requires my concern and attention at least once an hour (dinner, bedtime, etc.) How do TWO people not notice that one of the kids in their care is missing at bedtime? Really put yourself in that situation, think how that could be possible for a normal human being to do. Even if it&#039;s not your kids, how do you forget about a little five year old? Something is wrong with these folks, and if the parents even THINK of letting them take care of kids again, I think they should have their kids taken from them immediately and permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The outcome could have been the same and I would blame stupid carelessness just as harshly as murder. Itâ€™s not as if the girl wouldnâ€™t have been quite so dead because her relatives didnâ€™t intentionally treat her as expendable. And if I were her parents Iâ€™d sure see something as bad as malicious intent in their careless failure to take good care of my daughter when she visits them.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have to agree with Wry on this one. Although I&#8217;m sure it was not an intentional act to leave the child in the minivan, they chose to be neglectful. That is a HUGE mistake to make, that isn&#8217;t something that happens to the average human being (oops, didnt notice that a kid Im taking care of was missing for an entire night). This is a freaking FIVE year old. My son is 7 and he still requires my concern and attention at least once an hour (dinner, bedtime, etc.) How do TWO people not notice that one of the kids in their care is missing at bedtime? Really put yourself in that situation, think how that could be possible for a normal human being to do. Even if it&#8217;s not your kids, how do you forget about a little five year old? Something is wrong with these folks, and if the parents even THINK of letting them take care of kids again, I think they should have their kids taken from them immediately and permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: thepooh5</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30286</link>
		<dc:creator>thepooh5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong Wry, let me change my wording a bit.  I&#039;d be very angry at them, too.  In fact, a little ass kicking is in order.  I&#039;m just saying, I don&#039;t think they planned or intended to harm the girl.  Were they careless and stupid?  Hell, yes!  Would I ever, ever let my child stay with them again?  No way!  

All I was saying was, I feel that Jason&#039;s parents were looking for some &quot;tragic accident&quot; to happen and made one.  I think this particular case, falls in the top 3 things of stupid things that people do.  I just don&#039;t think they planned it or intended for it to happen.  They should have been more vigilant in their babysitting duties, by all means.  The are accountable and responsible, just not intentionally motivated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong Wry, let me change my wording a bit.  I&#8217;d be very angry at them, too.  In fact, a little ass kicking is in order.  I&#8217;m just saying, I don&#8217;t think they planned or intended to harm the girl.  Were they careless and stupid?  Hell, yes!  Would I ever, ever let my child stay with them again?  No way!  </p>
<p>All I was saying was, I feel that Jason&#8217;s parents were looking for some &#8220;tragic accident&#8221; to happen and made one.  I think this particular case, falls in the top 3 things of stupid things that people do.  I just don&#8217;t think they planned it or intended for it to happen.  They should have been more vigilant in their babysitting duties, by all means.  The are accountable and responsible, just not intentionally motivated.</p>
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		<title>By: WryBread</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30284</link>
		<dc:creator>WryBread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I just donâ€™t see the usual evil, maliciousness that we usually see in the stories featured here, on the DD. I think these people were slack. I think the couple that let poor Jason die, were tired of taking care of him. I think there is a difference between the two cases - not an excuse, but different reasons that it occurred.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The outcome could have been the same and I would blame stupid carelessness just as harshly as murder. It&#039;s not as if the girl wouldn&#039;t have been quite so dead because her relatives didn&#039;t intentionally treat her as expendable. And if I were her parents I&#039;d sure see something as bad as malicious intent in their careless failure to take good care of my daughter when she visits them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I just donâ€™t see the usual evil, maliciousness that we usually see in the stories featured here, on the DD. I think these people were slack. I think the couple that let poor Jason die, were tired of taking care of him. I think there is a difference between the two cases &#8211; not an excuse, but different reasons that it occurred.</p></blockquote>
<p>The outcome could have been the same and I would blame stupid carelessness just as harshly as murder. It&#8217;s not as if the girl wouldn&#8217;t have been quite so dead because her relatives didn&#8217;t intentionally treat her as expendable. And if I were her parents I&#8217;d sure see something as bad as malicious intent in their careless failure to take good care of my daughter when she visits them.</p>
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		<title>By: thepooh5</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30282</link>
		<dc:creator>thepooh5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;These people are not forgetful â€œoops!â€ only bought four ice cream cones types â€” they are no better than the couple that left their retarded kid in the van to die. Just luckier. The fact that they were used to only four kids in what must be an unregulated deluge of a homelife does not excuse them for not noticing that they were supposed to have five that night.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree, they are not excused.  I&#039;m just saying, I don&#039;t see any intent or malicious behavior.  Sure, they were as dumb as a box of rocks, but I can see HOW this could occur without there being criminal intent.  Damn right, they should have known there were 5 instead of 4 kids that evening.  They do not get a pass or an excuse.  

I just don&#039;t see the usual evil, maliciousness that we usually see in the stories featured here, on the DD.  I think these people were slack.  I think the couple that let poor Jason die, were tired of taking care of him.  I think there is a difference between the two cases - not an excuse, but different reasons that it occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>These people are not forgetful â€œoops!â€ only bought four ice cream cones types â€” they are no better than the couple that left their retarded kid in the van to die. Just luckier. The fact that they were used to only four kids in what must be an unregulated deluge of a homelife does not excuse them for not noticing that they were supposed to have five that night.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, they are not excused.  I&#8217;m just saying, I don&#8217;t see any intent or malicious behavior.  Sure, they were as dumb as a box of rocks, but I can see HOW this could occur without there being criminal intent.  Damn right, they should have known there were 5 instead of 4 kids that evening.  They do not get a pass or an excuse.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see the usual evil, maliciousness that we usually see in the stories featured here, on the DD.  I think these people were slack.  I think the couple that let poor Jason die, were tired of taking care of him.  I think there is a difference between the two cases &#8211; not an excuse, but different reasons that it occurred.</p>
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		<title>By: WryBread</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30279</link>
		<dc:creator>WryBread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This child was a guest! And the adults weren&#039;t pay some special attention to her to see that she was comfortable, having a good time, and so forth? Not one of the kids mentioned that their visitor wasn&#039;t in the house? 

These people are not forgetful  &quot;oops!&quot; only bought four ice cream cones types -- they are no better than the couple that left their retarded kid in the van to die. Just luckier. The fact that they were used to only four kids in what must be an unregulated deluge of a homelife does not excuse them for not noticing that they were supposed to have five that night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This child was a guest! And the adults weren&#8217;t pay some special attention to her to see that she was comfortable, having a good time, and so forth? Not one of the kids mentioned that their visitor wasn&#8217;t in the house? </p>
<p>These people are not forgetful  &#8220;oops!&#8221; only bought four ice cream cones types &#8212; they are no better than the couple that left their retarded kid in the van to die. Just luckier. The fact that they were used to only four kids in what must be an unregulated deluge of a homelife does not excuse them for not noticing that they were supposed to have five that night.</p>
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		<title>By: silvahalo68</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30270</link>
		<dc:creator>silvahalo68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if you have 12 kiddos. Come bedtime you count heads and say goodnight. They are adults and should have known better.  The ending could have been far worse...they got off easy. They won&#039;t make this mistake again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if you have 12 kiddos. Come bedtime you count heads and say goodnight. They are adults and should have known better.  The ending could have been far worse&#8230;they got off easy. They won&#8217;t make this mistake again.</p>
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		<title>By: silvahalo68</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30269</link>
		<dc:creator>silvahalo68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Itâ€™s hard for me to imagine how you take your kids out of a vehicle and forget one, but I also CAN imagine that she wasnâ€™t part of their bedtime rituals, and they could have overlooked it.  Stupid, but not necessarily criminal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t agree...I don&#039;t care if you have 12 kiddos your or not, come bedtime you count heads and say goodnight. They are adults and should have known better.  The ending could have been fare worse...they got off easy. Maybe not criminal but really, really stupid. ..they won&#039;t make this mistake again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Itâ€™s hard for me to imagine how you take your kids out of a vehicle and forget one, but I also CAN imagine that she wasnâ€™t part of their bedtime rituals, and they could have overlooked it.  Stupid, but not necessarily criminal.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree&#8230;I don&#8217;t care if you have 12 kiddos your or not, come bedtime you count heads and say goodnight. They are adults and should have known better.  The ending could have been fare worse&#8230;they got off easy. Maybe not criminal but really, really stupid. ..they won&#8217;t make this mistake again.</p>
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		<title>By: thepooh5</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30220</link>
		<dc:creator>thepooh5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Itâ€™s hard for me to imagine how you take your kids out of a vehicle and forget one, but I also CAN imagine that she wasnâ€™t part of their bedtime rituals, and they could have overlooked it. Stupid, but not necessarily criminal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m with you, Ruby on this one.  I can see how they may have missed the &quot;extra&quot; child.  I don&#039;t see this as criminal or intentional  -  they very well could have just &quot;forgot&quot;, in this particular situation.  I&#039;m thankful the child was safe and only scared, instead of the usual outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Itâ€™s hard for me to imagine how you take your kids out of a vehicle and forget one, but I also CAN imagine that she wasnâ€™t part of their bedtime rituals, and they could have overlooked it. Stupid, but not necessarily criminal.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m with you, Ruby on this one.  I can see how they may have missed the &#8220;extra&#8221; child.  I don&#8217;t see this as criminal or intentional  &#8211;  they very well could have just &#8220;forgot&#8221;, in this particular situation.  I&#8217;m thankful the child was safe and only scared, instead of the usual outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: SNOOKIE</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30219</link>
		<dc:creator>SNOOKIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable</description>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30211</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I feel sorry for those kids, but they obviously shouldnâ€™t be allowed to stay with their parents. Theyâ€™re lucky this story didnâ€™t have a worse endingâ€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You all are talking about parental neglect.  This wasn&#039;t the parents.  This said she was the NIECE and staying with them.  She&#039;s visiting.  

It&#039;s hard for me to imagine how you take your kids out of a vehicle and forget one, but I also CAN imagine that she wasn&#039;t part of their bedtime rituals, and they could have overlooked it.  Stupid, but not necessarily criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I feel sorry for those kids, but they obviously shouldnâ€™t be allowed to stay with their parents. Theyâ€™re lucky this story didnâ€™t have a worse endingâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<p>You all are talking about parental neglect.  This wasn&#8217;t the parents.  This said she was the NIECE and staying with them.  She&#8217;s visiting.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to imagine how you take your kids out of a vehicle and forget one, but I also CAN imagine that she wasn&#8217;t part of their bedtime rituals, and they could have overlooked it.  Stupid, but not necessarily criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Athena</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30209</link>
		<dc:creator>Athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so convinced.  In plenty of cases, parents aren&#039;t charged with anything if the situation is clearly accidental, even if injury is worse than that.  I&#039;m not sure that throwing them in jail and taking their kids away is reasonable, unless there is something about this incident that qualifies as criminal neglect (i.e. - were the adults drunk?  on drugs?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so convinced.  In plenty of cases, parents aren&#8217;t charged with anything if the situation is clearly accidental, even if injury is worse than that.  I&#8217;m not sure that throwing them in jail and taking their kids away is reasonable, unless there is something about this incident that qualifies as criminal neglect (i.e. &#8211; were the adults drunk?  on drugs?).</p>
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		<title>By: funkmama</title>
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		<dc:creator>funkmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for those kids, but they obviously shouldn&#039;t be allowed to stay with their parents. They&#039;re lucky this story didn&#039;t have a worse ending...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for those kids, but they obviously shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to stay with their parents. They&#8217;re lucky this story didn&#8217;t have a worse ending&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WryBread</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30195</link>
		<dc:creator>WryBread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many kids? I&#039;d say you have too many kids if you can&#039;t keep track of them. I hope this stupid couple gets themselves sterilized -- they just failed the Parenting Test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many kids? I&#8217;d say you have too many kids if you can&#8217;t keep track of them. I hope this stupid couple gets themselves sterilized &#8212; they just failed the Parenting Test.</p>
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		<title>By: txchick</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/07/01/girl-5-left-in-locked-minivan-overnight/#comment-30187</link>
		<dc:creator>txchick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say lock them in the car for 9 hours.........idiots!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say lock them in the car for 9 hours&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;idiots!!!!</p>
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