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Alberto Rios Had A Barbecue
Created on June 26th, 2008 by So Jaded now with 3,202 views
Tags: Alberto Rios, burned, Diego Rios, drinking, fire pit
Category Burning| Crime| Infanticide |
86 responses so far ↓
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funkmama
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:08 am -I knew there was something fishy about this story… It was no accident. It just doesn’t make sense. Still going demon hunting. Lemme go get my bat…
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SNOOKIE
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:30 am -disgusting
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So Jaded
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:34 am -As I said in the forums, this case makes my brain hurt. How did the baby get a hole in his head? Where was the 4 year old when daddy woke up? I know the baby wouldn’t have crawled into the fire pit, so how did the baby get off of daddy’s chest and into the pit? Even if the baby had rolled off of the father’s chest, wouldn’t he have cried like hell when he hit the ground?
The information on this case is just coming out in bits and pieces. It will almost be a relief to hear it all put together.
My heart breaks for that little baby…he had such a short life.
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Dakota Valkyrie
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:37 am -Thanks, So Jaded. Great write-up!!
How the hell does a live baby end up in a fire pit without anyone hearing massive screaming from the child? I wonder if the hole in his head had anything to do with his inability to wail.
Something more than burning flesh stinks in all this.
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mammasweets
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:42 am -Good Golly….yeah I said Good Golly.
This one stinks. Not to get to gross here but is it possible that the hole in the head could be his soft spot? I mean he was burnt from head to toe, it is possible that the fire exposed this area?
Blargh! That fucking ruined my breakfast. That’s fine. Fasting this morning for the baby.
I’m anxious for the full autopsy report as sick as that sounds.
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txchick
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:45 am -This story is just sickening to my stomach. Well I mean my pouch….lol, had my stomach stapled so it’s actually just a pouch…..Still, this baby did not just get into the fire by him self…..dad would have had to been obliviated (way more than 3-6 beers) if the baby fell off his chest while he was asleep……got to be a better explanation.
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:47 am -This is my hypothetical scenario. The father slept through the entire thing. Either the 4-year-old decided to put the baby in the fire, which I doubt as she would have had some burns as well, or the baby crawled to close to the fire and got a nice whiff of smoke.
But no matter how the baby got in there, couldn’t the hole in the head simply be from the skin peeling away from the soft spot on the infant’s head?
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SNOOKIE
Jun 26, 2008 at 9:14 am -poor little thing-makes me sick
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SoUncool
Jun 26, 2008 at 9:25 am -Fabulous write up on this story So Jaded! As I said over in the forums…I sure as hell hope the 4-yr old didn’t have anything to do with this. If Dad is on suicide watch and blames himself, that just sends up a red flag for me. I’m leaning toward tragic accident but I’m with mammasweets, as sick as it sounds, I want to see what the full autopsy reveals…
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Miss. Hill
Jun 26, 2008 at 9:31 am -This is definitely strange & confusing, I really want to know the details. I can see the baby falling off his chest, and getting burned a little but falling in?
If Daddy did do it, it wouldn’t surprise me to hear them claim the 4 yr old did it! When ever we have a fire I am all over my kids even the older just to ensure no accidents.
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So Jaded
Jun 26, 2008 at 9:37 am -I don’t really even know what to think right now and I’m reserving most of my judgment until some more info is made available. I just think that the baby must have screamed loud enough to get somebody’s attention.
Dad must be a helluva heavy sleeper. I would also like to know where the 4 year old was and whether or not she heard anything. And where the hell was she when dad woke up??
Since nothing was mentioned about the location of the hole, I think that might be a logical explanation.
This whole story just has me sick to my stomach.
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 9:48 am -Just speculating, of course…but since this is a fire pit, I would think that there was a small drop. If the infant crawled to close and simply fell in, or even if the infant got a lungful of smoke and then fell in, I don’t think any screaming it would have done would have lasted long enough to wake a man who sleeping one off.
His actions after finding the baby…the admission of scraping cinders of the baby’s back, the fact that he was found “face down” beside the fire pit cradling the baby, the suicide watch…just do not echo of someone who did this on purpose.
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Absynthe
Jun 26, 2008 at 10:01 am -I agree with everyone else, this story make me sick !! I just don’t understand why the father would sleep with a sick baby outside and by a firepit! What I also cannot comprehend is , the mother knew that he had been drinking and allowed him to have his children out by the firepit. Maybe I am wrong, but I feel that she holds some form of responsibility.
I also would like to know where the four year old was, maybe when she got up she pulled the baby down and it landed in the fire pit..just saying.
Maybe the baby hit his head on a log and that caused the hole in his head, or maybe it was caused by the heat of the fire..hell I don’t know.
This whole case has my mind boggled, I have tried to come up with a logical explanation.. and I find there really is none.
We have a fire pit in the backyard, and I would never allow ANYONE, drinking or not, to sleep out there with our little grandbabies!
Kudos..SoJaded, wonderful write up!
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So Jaded
Jun 26, 2008 at 10:18 am -I’m thinking she is already being punished.
I don’t know….if this was an accident, then tragic doesn’t even begin to describe it.
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 10:29 am -Yeah, this was an accident caused by negligence. I have read a few articles and watched a couple videos. The fire pit was by the bench he was sleeping on, it had no barrier, it was 2 or 3 feet deep. The fact that the baby had soot in his esophagus means his screams\cries would have been pretty short when he fell in. Some are speculating the baby went in face first.
He should be charged, but I don’t think there is really any punishment you could put on this guy that he isn’t already doing to himself. They are reporting that it took some time for police to even get him to let go of the baby so medical personnell could work on him.
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Jack Shizz
Jun 26, 2008 at 11:04 am -:C
Heartbreaking.
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Peeperann
Jun 26, 2008 at 11:43 am -This is just heartbreaking. The thing about it that I don’t understand is this: 7 month old babies are just learning how to crawl, and it’s usually just the “army crawl” on their stomache’s, there is no way that baby crawled into the fire!! Something else happened and I don’t believe the 4 year old could have done it and not gotten burned. Maybe daddy was just tired of all the responsbility, I don’t know but something is fishy about this………
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Hippiepoet
Jun 26, 2008 at 11:55 am -A baby crawls over to a hot fire pit? WTF? Something is stinky here and it ain’t just burnt flesh. I would like to see pictures of this “fire pit”. Whatever happened here it sounds like a whole lot of fucking stupid.
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 12:00 pm -Here, watch the video.
http://www.kval.com/news/national/21474329.html
The bench is directly beside the fire pit. The baby could have easily rolled into it. He could have rolled off of his father chest, or hell, the father could have inadvertently caused the baby to roll off to begin with. In any case, it was about 1-ft away and a 2-ft drop.
Nothing fishy about this to me, just, as HP put it, a lot of stupid.
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Miss. Hill
Jun 26, 2008 at 12:07 pm -Well if he was just stupid and this was an accident, that sucks! If it were me I’d probably hate my self enough to end my life! So sad!
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WryBread
Jun 26, 2008 at 12:14 pm -Three to six beers? Doubt it, but maybe I am just cynical.
My problem with this story starts further back than the fire pit. If a baby is getting sick, is the answer to let his DRUNK father sleep OUTSIDE with him? Who thinks that taking a sick baby outside to sleep is a good health move — especially when Mama was inside a nearby house?
First the police get a call that a baby had been bitten by a dog? Then they get a call that the baby had been burned? How does a caller confuse these conditions?
And the hole in the baby’s head — don’t you think the police would know about a baby’s soft spot and be able to recognize its location, even in a charred corpse?
I can see this just being stupidity all around, but I really wonder what that home was like before baby hit the pit. Poor little kid. What a terrible way to go.
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Chrissey
Jun 26, 2008 at 1:04 pm -This happened literally just up the road from me. One thing I think is important to point out is that we are having an unusually cool summer. Like it’s 50 degrees right now at 10:00 in the morning. I can’t remember what exact temps were over the weekend but the lows were somewhere in the mid-40’s. What kind of moron lets a sick baby - or any baby - sleep outside when it’s that cool?
Also, a neighbor reported that there had been a loud party going on over there all night long. In fact, it was loud right up until the point when the mother came running out screaming about the baby. I doubt “daddy dearest” could have slept through that.
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Jack Shizz
Jun 26, 2008 at 1:18 pm -Hard to believe isnt it? *shakes head*
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Hippiepoet
Jun 26, 2008 at 1:25 pm -Damn, between feeding kids, taking out the dog, and dealing with the seven fucking cats, I finally got to watch the video. I swear to god I missed the fire pit shot.
My thoughts are this……The mama was a dumb shit for letting the baby sleep outside with her boozed up hubby, plus the baby was sick. That is just stupidity.
I think they should both be charged with fucking neglect/abuse. SOB again, this story is just all kinds of stupid.
That baby should of been inside the house with mama while daddy slept off the beers he consumed. Horrible tragic accident. I’d off myself or would need to be in padded room sufficiently medicated to deal with something like this. Holy fuck.
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jronthemic
Jun 26, 2008 at 1:30 pm -I’m thinking that a baby 7mo., just crawling and probably not at warp speed, would of encountered a degree of pain from heat before reaching fire, flames or orange coals…the heat and pain alone would of stopped a baby in his tracks and he would of burned his upper portion, inhaled smoke and then died. But we are looking at 100 percent burns, alive when entered. Its seems to me this baby was placed in the fire pit evenly and squarly, somthing a 4 year old wouldn’t of been able to do so well….so yeah, I’m thinking alcohol is the major factor here and stupidity that a mom would let them all sleep outside, if in fact it was in the 40s and 50s! That’s a bad way to go burning like that…
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Endlessgrief08
Jun 26, 2008 at 1:48 pm -God, this is such a horrible story. That poor little boy. Why is it that we live a world anymore with these irresponsible parents. I know animals that make better parents then these morons!
It pisses me off more and more!
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Chrissey
Jun 26, 2008 at 1:58 pm -I tracked down the exact temps that night. “Official” overnight low was 51 with a “trace” of precipitation.
Personally, I don’t think he was asleep at all….
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petrina
Jun 26, 2008 at 2:24 pm -don’t leave us hangin’, chrissey. spill it.
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solange822001
Jun 26, 2008 at 2:31 pm -Oh my god, this was in Federal Way. I lived there for 3 years from when I was 11 to when I was 14. Nice neighborhood, lots of kids, how horrible. I do hope this was just an accident…
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solange822001
Jun 26, 2008 at 2:52 pm -I agreed with Morbid at first, but now after reading Chrissey’s comments and others I am more suspicious. This was not an accident. Also, he didnt look too suicidal or distraught in the video. To me, 50 degrees is fucking freezing, i find it hard to believe that they just happened to sleep outside like that. I’m really really doubting this guy’s story now….
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 2:57 pm -I’m not. Too many variables he would not have taken care of. The 4-year-old for one. The other being the fact that out of all the ways he could have killed the baby, this doesn’t seem like a smart one.
Obviously, I am not Athena so I cannot be correct 100 percent of the time…but this just looks like a drunk guy whose recklessness resulted in the horrendous death of his son.
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solange822001
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:03 pm -LOL, you have some good points, I’m not sure what to think. I guess time will tell
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Athena
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:10 pm -I don’t think this was intentional. I think more drinking happened than was admitted to, though. Criminal negligence? Yeah, but I don’t think these people are evil.
Edit: Don’t beat yourself over it, Morbid. Logic just doesn’t come natural, to some.
Edit2: Solange, a 51 degree low around here is plenty warm. I’ve sat, comfortable, in front of a fire until the wee hours of the morning on plenty of occasions, especially when drinking. Hell, a few drinks can make 51 degrees seem down right tropical.
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:17 pm -Woah! She lives!
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Athena
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:18 pm -Dude, what are you talking about? I’m here every day with the current exception of weekends and the general exception of vacations (even though I did post for a bit from Portland).
Cut me some slack, huh?
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Morbid
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:26 pm -Never. Unless I am sleeping.
But yeah, like Athena said, 51 degrees by a fire pit would have been pretty comfortable. It may not have been the smartest thing for a drunk man to do with his infant, but I just don’t see this as a purposeful act.
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mm_classy
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:33 pm -This just doesn’t add up to me, Chrissey. In all the reports I’ve read, neighbors say it was quiet at about 10. If they were still loud and partying, some one would have been there to see something, dontcha think?
I think it’s horrible and tragic and extremely negligent. But I dont think it was murder.
Also, I read that the baby was teething. Which effects some babies like being sick, with low grade fever, diahrea, crying… but if he was teething, it’s not the same really as being a sick child, sleeping outside.
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petrina
Jun 26, 2008 at 3:54 pm -hell maybe the teething baby bit his manboob and he flung it off in his sleep. i have no idea anymore.
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Chrissey
Jun 26, 2008 at 4:04 pm -Let me see if I can find the news article about the party going all night. It was one of the first reports around here.
Y’all are probably right that it was a horrible, tragic accident. But, I still have a little bit of the bullshit feeling. I don’t know. Maybe reading all the crap that people do to each other on DD has me a little jaded.
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Chrissey
Jun 26, 2008 at 4:10 pm -I found the article that I was referring to with the party going all night.
” She said there was a loud party next door Saturday night, but she tuned it out until around midnight when the mother ran out screaming.”
http://www.king5.com/topstorie.....9c81d.html
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mm_classy
Jun 26, 2008 at 4:11 pm -Oh I know reading all the things on here has made me ALOT jaded… but this just doesn’t seem like the other stories.
Seems like most evenings my husband and I will be sitting outside and he’ll ask me whats wrong… then just look at me and say.. Oh, another story from “that site”. lol Some times I have to go a few days of not coming here after the really bad ones they effect me so much.
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solange822001
Jun 26, 2008 at 4:28 pm -Yeah, I guess when you live in Miami anything under 80 degrees feels like Christmas to you lol.
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silvahalo68
Jun 26, 2008 at 4:55 pm -I’m still thinking this was a tragic accident due to outrageous neglect. WTF was the mom thinking letting baby sleep outside…crazy!
I could hardly stand to read SoJades write up it was that good and that awful.
My heart breaks for the family and the baby…so terrible.
I only hope little Diego’s suffering was brief.
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ImmortalOne
Jun 26, 2008 at 6:10 pm -I think the father did it. I think there is something behind the story we are not being told and that the father (maybe mother) did something to this baby. That is the only logical assumption.
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impqueen
Jun 26, 2008 at 6:23 pm -awesome job, SJ!
I dunno on this case. I really wanna think it was the world’s dumbest, most tragic accident. Which it could be. And if the baby had the croup, the cool night air would be the best thing for him - doctors routinely prescribe taking a baby outside in the cool night for croup, as the cooling air will open the airways. Sleeping outside ALL night, mebbe not, but i could buy that.
On the other hand, there could easily be a darker element at work here. I hope not.
PS - don’t sweat it, Athena. I’m only right like ninety percent of the time and Morbid still gives me shit about it. Just sayin’.
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Athena
Jun 26, 2008 at 6:51 pm -Definitely, Imp. I’m not ready to discount the possibility that it was intentional entirely, but, with the facts we’ve got currently, I’m leaning toward neglect.
No sweat here, ma. I mean, after all…You and I are totally used to jealousy at this point in our lives, right?
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WryBread
Jun 26, 2008 at 10:29 pm -I saw the video and I think having lit candles in the firepit as a memorial to the baby is in really questionable taste.
Was there a party that lasted late? Ten o’clock isn’t late where I live.
Where was the daughter sleeping? Daddy, daughter, and baby were all sleeping on that bench? Or did Drunkie Daddie just pass out while holding the baby and now is making it look as if he planned to sleep there? How could anyone expect three people to sleep all night on a single bench? Why would Mom agree to this? Was she also passed out or was she afraid of Dad?
Something still isn’t adding up.
Pure Speculation: I’ll go with “Mom passed out inside house, Dad passed out drunk holding baby, baby rolled off Dad’s belly, down legs, and fell into fire, daughter is left to wander, eventually wakes up Mom to pee or get a glass or water, Mom realizes baby isn’t in crib, runs outside and discovers baby in pit.”
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Castille
Jun 26, 2008 at 10:40 pm -My kids are prone to croup. One of the first things I do when they’re sick at night with it is bundle them up in a blanket and take them outside (and consider they mostly have it in the winter,) so sick kid and outside seems perfectly logical to me. And 51 degrees next to a fire pit is warm. The negligence seems to occur where dad was drunk on a six-pack and appears to have passed out with the baby. As for 7mo olds? Many crawl very competently, but they’re head heavy and prone to falling face first into things. I can totally see the fall part into a couple foot deep pit being possible. Why dad is passed out with baby next to fire is a question he’ll be asking himself the rest of his life, I imagine.
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CorruptedMistress
Jun 26, 2008 at 11:01 pm -I knew a new mom who had her infant son and had wanted to start co-sleeping with him. One night, she fell asleep on her bed with the baby on her chest and awoke to him crying - only the baby wasn’t there. She jumped up and looked for him, only to discover that he was under the bed. She said that when she awoke, she was sleeping on her left side so when she rolled over, she must have flung that baby to the floor.
The baby was only like, 6 weeks old and I always wondered how that baby ended up under the bed, as it doesn’t seem logical to me.
With that said, I think this guy had one too many the night he took that baby out to the bench to sleep and probably didn’t realize the baby was on his chest, rolled onto his side and flung the baby into the fire pit.
I’ve brought Jakob to bed many nights when he was sick or teething just so that he would be comfortable and always worried that I would forget his there. Never happened, but I think if someone had been drinking and gone into a deep sleep, it could easily happen.
I do think this was a tragic accident, but I definitely think it was an unavoidable one and there was a lot of bad judgment both from Mom and Dad.
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WryBread
Jun 26, 2008 at 11:08 pm -I think it was entirely avoidable — don’t sleep on benches near open fire pits with a baby in your arms. That seems like elementary, rub-your-two-brain-cells-together safety information. Like don’t place your baby in the middle of the road and don’t put your baby in the oven — rules that are in the very first chapter of Dr. Spock.
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Chrissey
Jun 26, 2008 at 11:34 pm -The problem I have with that is that the baby was found face down. If he was crawling and fell head first into the pit, his butt most likely would have gone over as his head went down and he would have been on his back. And, I’m not sure a baby would get that close to a fire anyway. it’s not like going up to a hot oven where it’s not really hot until you get there and touch it. You can feel the heat from a fire from several feet away. I would think that the baby would at least feel uncomfortable and crawl the other way.
I can totally see dad being passed out drunk and flinging the baby into the fire though. I hope that’s what it was and not intentionally putting that baby in the fire!
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back alley sally
Jun 27, 2008 at 3:20 am -my daughter is 7 months and I can tell you as a between her, my son, and a full time 50 work week I have spent a few exhausting nights on a lazyboy with the baby. and I did wake up once only to find her at my feet asleep. and another time when I put her to bed with in the bassinet, woke up to check on her saw she was missing, freaked out then saw she’d wedged herself between the bassinet and bed, and fallen asleep. I kept thinking she could have suffocated and we would’ve never noticed. what the hell I really hope this was one of those tragic freak accidents, because I can’t fathom this being on purpose…
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WryBread
Jun 27, 2008 at 3:19 pm -I kept wondering if there was any sort of barrier to prevent the four year old from falling into the pit. After all, an active child might well run and fall or get too close and slip down the sides of a roughly dug hole. So I looked at the video again.
There’s no railing or fence and I’m wondering if this family lives in a trash dump. Look at all the crap junking up the backyard. And in the middle is a hole in the ground full of burning whatever.
This family was an accident waiting to happen. I have no sympathy for anyone but the dead baby, his sister, and the other kids the parents will doubtlessly spawn. At least it’s likely the parents will be a little more careful from now on.
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Chrissey
Jun 27, 2008 at 8:02 pm -I got this alert from the local news station http://www.king5.com
“The King County Prosecutor’s Office today filed charges of manslaughter in the second degree against Alberto Rios for the death of his seven-month-old son who fell into a fire pit at the family’s home in Federal Way last weekend. “
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WryBread
Jun 27, 2008 at 10:01 pm -I looked at the alert. I don’t understand why the father’s being a twice-before-deported illegal alien means the bail should be a high amount. I can see the idea that keeping him in jail might keep him from harming himself, but not what his illegal alien status has to do with it.
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Lynn
Jun 27, 2008 at 11:03 pm -They probably figure he will run rather than face charges.
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CorruptedMistress
Jun 28, 2008 at 4:50 am -haha - I totally meant to type avoidable and even noticed the mistake after I had posted and thought I had corrected it. Guess it didn’t take when I went to edit it.
Lack of sleep has been doing my head in lately. Here I am, 4:50am completely exhausted and still can’t fall asleep. It sucks.
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WryBread
Jun 28, 2008 at 10:06 am -Oh, I thought you might have meant avoidable. But people are being sympathetic to this guy, and I thought you might be serious, too.
As far as I’m concerned this man killed the child just as if he put it in the fire. He was drunk with a baby, pursued his own comfort and ease, and let the baby take its chances.
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WryBread
Jun 28, 2008 at 3:35 pm -http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....aby26.html
More details. Papa has a criminal record dating back to 1990.
“Rios’ previous arrests included possession of marijuana in 1990, driving with an open container of alcohol in 1994 and drug possession in 1995. He was convicted of drug possession in 1991. A felony harassment charge in 2001 involving domestic violence and allegations of heavy drinking was dismissed that year.”
So glad that after being deported 2 times, this guy regifted us with his presence in the U.S. for a third Alberto Rios experience. He’s really an example of the people we need here. Not as if we don’t have plenty of homegrown assholes.
There may be fire safety charges for the pit. For one thing, such a pit is supposed to be 25 feet away from anything flammable. Look at the video and you’ll see the backyard is like a trash dump. Also, “In Rios’ backyard, “there was not protection around it,” [Spokeswoman Cathy Schrock] said. “It was just a dugout hole.”
And a death pit for a baby. RIP little guy.
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WryBread
Jun 28, 2008 at 3:43 pm -http://beyond90seconds.com/200.....portation/
There are two additional videos in this link.
I thought you had to be charged with something in order for bail to be set. From what I understand, bail was set at $1 million while the police were still deciding whether or not to charge. Could someone tell me about this? I thought I understood procedures, but I guess not.
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