Christina Howell Is Poisonous

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impqueen
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:11 am -

Thanks Lizard and w8ng for a great article!
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mammasweets
Jun 22, 2008 at 12:15 pm -

GOOD JOB GUYS!
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jenjen0135
Jun 22, 2008 at 3:11 pm -

Great read! Can’t wait to hear more on this one…
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Lizard
Jun 22, 2008 at 6:59 pm -

Gosh, thanks, everyone! Me and w8ing are blushing!

I really am looking forward to getting more details on this. In many chemical ingestion instances, the substance in question doesn’t cause pain when ingested. I’m really hoping that was the case here.
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skeptical
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm -

We should give her the same treatment she gave her child! POS deserves it.
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Dakota Valkyrie
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:17 pm -

Thanks you guys! Good job!! (are you sitting on w8ng’s lap? How do you know he’s blushing??)

She must really think folks are stupid if she thought bringing the kid in again wouldn’t raise major flags. Even IF the first was accidental, any real parent would have rid the place of anything remotely dangerous… so it wouldn’t happen again. (Checked and double checked)

Looking forward to updates on the baby and the hoped-for fate of the “mom”.
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liltaz92064
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:30 pm -

well check this out, the 22 month is fine with the concidering issue of damages that wont be fixed over night, and he is in foster care, her the side ass comments are not at all funny. and how do i know all this is be cause im the father and if you are going to ask where i was, i was working when i got the calls of my childs condition. this shit sucks and all the bs behind it is adding and is overwelming and everyones comments and smart ass remarks are bs and to show my point she is now my ex so just take a break on all the comments and let justice handle it
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feisty76
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:37 pm -

While this is probably a stressful time for you, Liltaz92064, the “smart ass comments” are directed toward your ex and rightfully so. We certainly hope that your child makes a full recovery, but the comments here won’t stop simply because you want them to. If you find our comments that distressing, please do not visit the site again and you won’t be exposed our opinions.
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Lizard
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:38 pm -

well check this out, the 22 month is fine with the concidering issue of damages that wont be fixed over night

liltaz, when you say “damages,” do you mean physical damages? I think everyone here would agree that it’s most important to us that he be okay. And if you’re her ex and she has custody, why would we be asking where you were? I wasn’t kidding, there isn’t a lot of information out there about what happened, so naturally, we “talk out” what might have happened, and I imagine this is a really shitty time for you right now.
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petrina
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:40 pm -

liltaz what stuff caused your baby to get sick? was it bleach?
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liltaz92064
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:47 pm -

no we where together when it happened and it was tilex on the 25th and liquid plumber on the 28th and when you talk in referance to the concerns of my boy i can respectfully ask you to knock it off
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Lizard
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:50 pm -

no we where together when it happened and it was tilex on the 25th and liquid plumber on the 28th and when you talk in referance to the concerns of my boy i can respectfully ask you to knock it off

I guess my question is, why on earth would the authorities charge her with attempted murder if your son accidentally ingested Tilex and Liquid Plumber?

And I’m sorry, but we love children here, and they don’t have to be our children. So when we hear about a 22-month-old getting hospitalized for drinking/eating something that caused burns to his mouth and esophagus, we’re going to be wondering how he is and hoping for the best.
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impqueen
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:50 pm -

no we where together when it happened and it was tilex on the 25th and liquid plumber on the 28th and when you talk in referance to the concerns of my boy i can respectfully ask you to knock it off

so.. you don’t want us to be concerned with your son’s well-being, or am i misunderstanding you?
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Lizard
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:53 pm -

And wait…you were WITH him when he ingested Liquid Plumber, but you were at WORK when you got the call of his condition? I don’t understand.
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Lizard
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm -

Damn, where did he go? I think I have MORE questions now. Doesn’t Liquid Plumber have a child-proof cap?
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petrina
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm -

i think liltaz means he was with christina as a couple, not with his son.

so was it just bad parenting, liltaz? her not watching what he was doing?
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liltaz92064
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm -

the authoritys believe it is because of a mental desieas and no i wasnt home when this happened its called munhausen by proxy (spelling might be wrong) and thety think it because he was found to not accedently take it it was givin to him
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petrina
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:09 pm -

i see. yeah that sounds more like a mental health issue than bad parenting. i am sorry to hear that - and glad your son is doing better.
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Lizard
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:13 pm -

liltaz, I want you to understand that no one here wants to bust your chops. As far as we know–and I’d like to believe–you’re one of the best dads in the world. We’ve heard about that condition before (actually, one of our forum members wondered if that might be what was going on). That’s so scary. You always want to believe that children are safest with their mother.
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SoUncool
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:21 pm -

Great articles Liz and W8ng! Liltaz…i can guarantee you that people just hope you’re kiddo is alright…
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Morbid
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:29 pm -

Hey, liltaz92064, hope everything turns out ok for your son. As a father myself, I cannot begin to imagine how tough this is for you.

As for the Munchausen syndrome and Munchausen syndrome by Proxy, the last case we had on that here was Wendi Scott:
http://www.dreamindemon.com/20.....ion-whore/

Still kinda strange that if this woman was suffering from that mental illness, that she would resort to a method that could quickly lead to death, PLUS be easily figured out. Who knows what goes through thee people’s head, though.
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w8ng4msrgt
Jun 23, 2008 at 12:53 am -

Hi Chris or do you go by Mario?

Since it appears that you are controlling Christina’s myspace you shouldn’t mind the link to it. Her myspace

Might as well give your myspace some hits. Taz’s Myspace

Please tell me about this though. Was she kicking your ass?
Domestic Violence Order
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Unamused Cat
Jun 23, 2008 at 1:18 am -

Meow babies. Good job on the story guys. =^.^=
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Wonder
Jun 23, 2008 at 2:03 am -

I am sorry that this had to happen to you and your child. Good Luck with getting custody and him back with family where he belongs. Best wishes to a speedy recovery for the ‘lil one. Thanks for sharing the details with us.

We here at DD have hard time understanding why people do the things they do especially to innocent children - their own children ~ it Sucks !!! We don’t buy most of the excuses. The devil told me too and the drug issues… seems like plain selfishness and jealousy is a great deal of the problem.

Welcome Taz to DD please keep us updated ~ Thanks
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DarcoDragon
Jun 23, 2008 at 2:23 am -

I would like to know why he is defending her… it sounds like he is defending someone who tried to kill his kid! What’s the harm in us discussing the world and it’s sickness… people like this need to learn a lesson. Also, the kid is 22 mos huh? Ok so she just woke up one morning with this “syndrome” and said ” I think I am going to poision my kid today.” Judging from the article posted…these sick puppies work for a long time to give the illusion of an ill child…this was too sudden. Any thoughts?
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DarcoDragon
Jun 23, 2008 at 2:42 am -

I just looked at miss “Jailbird”s myspace page, (thanks w8ng4msrgt), you guys have 2 kids! Where the hell is other one? A blog said he was finally out of the hospital…did she try to hurt that one too? Liltaz myspace page wishes the media would stay out if it, then why post personal info for all to question? I just don’t get it, something just doesn’t add up.
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Lizard
Jun 23, 2008 at 3:21 am -

Any thoughts?

Darco, we all have unanswered questions, including whether the incidents discussed in the article might represent the first manifestations of Christina’s “illness.” I’m sorry I don’t have more for you than that.
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Miss. Hill
Jun 23, 2008 at 8:53 am -

liltaz92064,

I hope your son is okay! Has your ex been showing signs of depression? Postpartum? I’m truly sorry you have to go through this. breaking up with her and never allowing her contact with your son is in your sons as well as your best interest.

Please don’t be so quick to think people here only bad mouth abusers (they do shame deserving low lifes) but they also would help you through this the best they could. Sometimes it helps to discuss things like this with people you don’t know. People that follow such cases and can be helpful.

I wish the best for your adorable little boy!
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WWSD
Jun 23, 2008 at 10:51 am -

Congratulations Christina you’ll be getting that VIP treatment you’ve always been so desperate for…
You’re gonna love it down here!
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DarcoDragon
Jun 23, 2008 at 3:34 pm -

Normally I don’t get involved in this crap, but this case bothers me, this is my backyard…has anyone looked at liltaz’s myspace page? The pics of the car that his woman crashed!!! That crap is smashed up, like whole car is now 1/2 a car…AND the kids were in the car! Christian…the kid that she poisioned, had a cracked skull!? Is this chick suicidal/homicidal?? WTF is your problem lady?
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Lizard
Jun 23, 2008 at 3:46 pm -

Look at the photos on her profile–it seems their youngest was “in and out” of the hospital quite a bit right after he was born. You have to wonder if he actually was ill or was “getting help” from Mom.
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DarcoDragon
Jun 23, 2008 at 8:14 pm -

I have to ask, where the hell was the dad in all this? Did he not have a clue? How come CPS never got involved? Poor little boys… Little kids that sick all the time should have raised some eyebrows…shame on all of them. Anyone know how to drudge up if CPS gave a damn? Funny how we all know nothing about these guys, but from one article and a bit of digging…a bunch of strangers came to the same conclusion, mom is disturbed in the worst possible way.
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NursePaige
Jun 23, 2008 at 10:43 pm -

Wow, look at this site.. this is nice..I like the fact that there is so much information. I have been looking at this for a while now and it’s pretty invasive, don’t you think? Look, lets get level here… for whatever reason Chris wanted to see how far the rabbit hole went, how much “media” attention was involved, and it drew him to here… mainly because this has the most derogatory comments against her ( I can only assume) and I think he felt insulted. I don’t know for sure..I can’t get that out of him. But I do know this, He is in a world of pain and seeing his pain broadcast is difficult at best. And Darco is it?? I saw the accident based on your post, and I questioned him, but that was an actual accident… didn’t you see the blurb about the breaks? And furthermore…duh! CPS did get involved…the kid’s in foster care…
See, that’s the thing…make assumptions before you know the facts…yes she deserved to be ridiculed…but consider the costs… He had no idea what he was going to see, and what he did..hurt him. Worst dreams have come true and even I have finally taken offence to these comments. He loved this woman…, she betrayed him…give him some peace. The kid(s) are doing fine for now, safe. I know some of you don’t believe in the conventional version of god…so prayer is out… but hope is not lost, can we just send some hope his way??? and let’s leave well enough alone for right now, please?
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LeeMouse
Jun 23, 2008 at 10:52 pm -

Wait, what? You like the fact that there’s so much information here…but now you’re complaining that there’s too much information here?

Frankly, if the woman he loved betrayed him by poisoning his kid, anything we could possibly do or say pales in comparison to that. I honestly don’t see that anything said or written by strangers–strangers who are compassionate toward his child, nonetheless–could possibly make a dent, or even register, in comparison. When my loved one was in intensive care, the last thing I gave a flip about was anything that a stranger had to say, period.
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Morbid
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:00 pm -

but hope is not lost, can we just send some hope his way???

Thanks for the tip…but…

We certainly hope that your child makes a full recovery

I think everyone here would agree that it’s most important to us that he be okay.

i see. yeah that sounds more like a mental health issue than bad parenting. i am sorry to hear that - and glad your son is doing better.

liltaz, I want you to understand that no one here wants to bust your chops. As far as we know–and I’d like to believe–you’re one of the best dads in the world.

Liltaz…i can guarantee you that people just hope you’re kiddo is alright…

Hey, liltaz92064, hope everything turns out ok for your son. As a father myself, I cannot begin to imagine how tough this is for you.

I am sorry that this had to happen to you and your child. Good Luck with getting custody and him back with family where he belongs. Best wishes to a speedy recovery for the ‘lil one.

I hope your son is okay! Has your ex been showing signs of depression? Postpartum? I’m truly sorry you have to go through this. breaking up with her and never allowing her contact with your son is in your sons as well as your best interest.

We have been doing that all along.
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Miss. Hill
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:08 pm -

Wow, look at this site.. this is nice..I like the fact that there is so much information. I have been looking at this for a while now and it’s pretty invasive, don’t you think? Look, lets get level here… for whatever reason Chris wanted to see how far the rabbit hole went, how much “media” attention was involved, and it drew him to here… mainly because this has the most derogatory comments against her ( I can only assume) and I think he felt insulted. I don’t know for sure..I can’t get that out of him. But I do know this, He is in a world of pain and seeing his pain broadcast is difficult at best. And Darco is it?? I saw the accident based on your post, and I questioned him, but that was an actual accident… didn’t you see the blurb about the breaks? And furthermore…duh! CPS did get involved…the kid’s in foster care…See, that’s the thing…make assumptions before you know the facts…yes she deserved to be ridiculed…but consider the costs… He had no idea what he was going to see, and what he did..hurt him. Worst dreams have come true and even I have finally taken offence to these comments. He loved this woman…, she betrayed him…give him some peace. The kid(s) are doing fine for now, safe. I know some of you don’t believe in the conventional version of god…so prayer is out… but hope is not lost, can we just send some hope his way??? and let’s leave well enough alone for right now, please?

We are entitled to our opinions and well if you don’t like them…don’t read them! As far as I know I can assume all I want whether that makes me an asshole or whatever it’s my prerogative.

I can imagine that the fathers world has crumbled his son has been injured at the hands of his mother! I think there are more things to worry about then what people here are saying!
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Lizard
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:20 pm -

Some details from NBCSan Diego:
-Christina pled not guilty today to the child abuse and poisoning charges. Not sure what happened to the attempted murder charges.
-Prosecutors say she poisoned her son in the more recent instance by putting apple juice and Drano is his sippy cup.
-The little boy will need long-term medical care.
-Her bail is set for $300,000; she has a preliminary hearing scheduled July 8. If convicted, she could spend 11+ years in prison.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/new.....etail.html
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NursePaige
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:20 pm -

Ok like seriously? Sarcasm can never be seen via…text or email, or whatever is written. I was being sarcastic… and I was mainly reffering to Darco… I can see that some are spreading the love….but I just had to make MY point as well, isn’t that we do on here?? Spit out our verbal vomit no matter how harsh or who reads it. So, you don’t care how you sound or come across, but attack my point of view with no problems. Let me spell it out you you… Think before you post, ok??? That’s all I was trying to say. And you are right, there are bigger fish to fry here… but I was just trying to put a different perspective on this crap. So sorry that I laid into the perfect world of micro blogging bullshit. Don’t like what I have to say… dont read it either.
Peace out
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Lizard
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:25 pm -

But I do know this, He is in a world of pain and seeing his pain broadcast is difficult at best.

In a “world of pain”? No shit, Dick Tracy. The woman he loves tried to kill his son; it wasn’t one of us. Are you getting the impression we’re unsympathetic to him? If so, you can’t read.

We’re not “broadcasting” his pain. He visited here. I hope having the chance to come here and vent some made him feel at least a tiny bit better. And in case Morbid’s post didn’t make it clear to you, we are pulling for him and his children. Her? Not so much.
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NursePaige
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:29 pm -

oh my god… ok !!! damn…got it…..your view rules… ok..laters…delete my account ok…seems my opinion doesnt matter anyhow…so sorry
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Miss. Hill
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:29 pm -

. Don’t like what I have to say… dont read it either.Peace out

Unless I misread what didn’t appear to be sarcasm but I have been wrong before, you more or less told us to stop and that we should only send hope, which is more or less what was happening with some well deserved pokes at a mom who poisoned her child. ?????

So no problem not reading your posts I’ll skip right over them, thanks!

Later!~
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megamum
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:37 pm -

Anyone else think that NURSEPAIGE could be Courtney/DA trying to hijack liltaz92064’s pain?!?

liltaz92064, We are very sorry for what has happened to your little ones and your entire family. This must be terribly hard for ALL of you. It says alot that you have disowned your partner for this. I hope you and yours all the best in the future. Sincerely, I do.
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Morbid
Jun 23, 2008 at 11:58 pm -

Let me spell it out you you… Think before you post, ok???

Funny…had you followed that same advice, we wouldn’t even be having this exchange.
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DarcoDragon
Jun 24, 2008 at 12:01 am -

Jesus, what the hell happened here? Holy Shit. Any ways, thanks lizard for the update. 11 years isn’t enough, bitch deserves to fry. Oh well, I will see her in hell. Oh and NursePaige? This is free speech bitch, can’t take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen.
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megamum
Jun 24, 2008 at 12:04 am -

Funny…had you followed that same advice, we wouldn’t even be having this exchange.

Ya, What he said!
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Wonder
Jun 24, 2008 at 12:34 am -

in General ~ I believe Paige was saying (not just this thread) the asshats families/friends come here from googling…. and what they read is shocking and unsuspected… and it Hurts. Nurse we do care! We love it when the family and friends interact with us. Don’t go…

It does concern me why foster care - Taz or the grandparents can’t provide a safe enviroment ?
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Lizard
Jun 24, 2008 at 12:40 am -

It does concern me why foster care - Taz or the grandparents can’t provide a safe enviroment ?

Wonder, I’m guessing that the children are in foster care until CPS is sure that Christina is the only threat to the children. Considering that Christian has been poisoned twice, they’ll probably be hyper-careful.
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Wonder
Jun 24, 2008 at 12:56 am -

well not what i was thinking…. I don’t choose to point fingers - all depends who you are I suppose… :0
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DarcoDragon
Jun 24, 2008 at 1:30 am -

Like I said before, where has dad been all this time, under a rock??
Wonder’s comment had me do some research.. so someone posted the DV file he had against her… anyone look up Christopher Daly’s files in Sd Superior Court?. He has 2 previous criminal charges against him, and a previous DV charge. Could it be that’s why he hasn’t got his kids back yet?
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Dakota Valkyrie
Jun 24, 2008 at 7:52 am -

Like I said before, where has dad been all this time, under a rock??
Wonder’s comment had me do some research.. so someone posted the DV file he had against her… anyone look up Christopher Daly’s files in Sd Superior Court?. He has 2 previous criminal charges against him, and a previous DV charge. Could it be that’s why he hasn’t got his kids back yet?

I don’t think the dad sat by and watched this happen - especially give his painful reaction to all this. It seems that if he even suspected she was doing this that he would have stopped it even if it meant another DV charge. One look at the comment he left on her MySpace tells you what he thinks of this.

His past criminal history has little to do with it. If they withheld biological kids of everyone who had a history, there would be a hell of a lot more kids in the foster system.

The dad may or may not be capable of providing a loving and stable home for his boys. CPS will look at that. They have returned kids to homes with far greater histories (not that I agree) but the circumstances of his record may have little to do with his ability to parent.

His love for his kids is obvious. His pain is obvious. He just has to realize that we are not talking about the woman he thought he married. We are talking about the bitch that committed this horrid act.

Like everyone else, I wish only the best for his children and him. For Christina, I wish a daily living hell.