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Missing: Randy and Denim Sylvester
Created on June 17th, 2008 by impqueen now with 8,073 views
Tags: Denim Sylvester, Gerilyn St. Cyr, Jerilynn St. Cyr, missing children, Randy Sylvester
Category Abduction| Burning| Child murder| Missing Person| domestic violence |
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 10:17 am -I’m telling ya, if you watch the tv interviews and read the quotes made by them mother talking about “i’ll never stop looking for them” kinda stuff. It’s weird and something is very fishy.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 10:20 am -If I am wrong, may God forgive me for being so judgemental….lol
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impqueen
Jun 17, 2008 at 10:34 am -I know, Tricia, i’m there too. Her affect is just… off. I understand a cultural defensiveness around police officers, but to wait to call for help until nightfall? That’s weird.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 10:39 am -That story says they were last seen at 3:45 but the earlier reports were 2:00pm……They searched the mom’s car and the apartments. The mom was quoted griping that they searched the car and apartments without warrents….blah, blah, blah. WTF does it matter if they had a warrent or not? Biotch, they are trying to find your children….jeeezzzz, some people!
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newsreader1
Jun 17, 2008 at 1:23 pm -That whole thing is very strange. I watched the news video too! That mother is way too calm. If my children were that young and they disappeared and virtually vanished, not only would I call 911 immediately, they’d have to send 911 for me as well b/c I would not be able to breathe wondering where my kids were, if they were hurt, scared, hungry or whatever!
I wouldn’t be able to show you their rooms without breaking down, I would tell you to search my entire house and life and do what you want, no questions asked…..UNLESS of course I was guilty of something.
Mark my words…that mother knows exactly where her kids are and what happened to them, either that, or she is a cold hearted moron.
NOBODY can give a news conference about their missing kids without shedding a tear.
It’s a SICK WORLD we live in.
I pray those kids are okay!
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thepooh5
Jun 17, 2008 at 1:46 pm -Poor kids. I pray the little guys are ok. Its looking pretty bad.
Also, Imp, Tricia and newsreader, you guys are right, that woman does not act right. I don’t want to blame her but she’s certainly got her shit together to have two children missing. I don’t get it. Maybe she’s just being strong, in case the children were watching or some shit. I don’t know, but something does seem to be off.
I really want to be soooooooo wrong about this. I don’t want to know about another parent killing their very own child(ren) - not today. I’m so spent over the other tragedies.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 1:56 pm -new article from abc13.com says….
The mother of the children left the apartment complex today around 10am. That’s around the same time detectives at the apartment complex were there, but left very quickly after Eyewitness News caught video of a mysterious woman leaving the father’s apartment. The unidentified woman didn’t want to speak to Eyewitness News. Our cameraman told detectives which direction the mysterious woman headed and they quickly took off.
The father of the kids actually ran from our cameras and at one point, he yelled something to the nature of they’re OK, but we aren’t exactly sure that is what he said.
The Pasadena Police Department isn’t saying much about this case, only that it’s ongoing. The mother of the children also declined to speak today.
The FBI says they are in involved in this case, but they can’t really comment on any details.
I can’t do the link thing so i just posted some paragraphs from the article….sorry ya’ll
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thepooh5
Jun 17, 2008 at 2:10 pm -Thanks Tricia1971 - looking worse on the parents all of the time. I want to be wrong. I REALLY, REALLY want to be wrong. I want both of these parents just to be bad spouses not bad parents.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 2:15 pm -well remember that other houston boy Kendrick Jackson that’s been missing for over 2yrs now…..they’ve never found him.
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Ruby
Jun 17, 2008 at 2:26 pm -I don’t know, I finally watched the video, and I don’t think it’s incriminating. She sounds upset to me. And she sounds angry to me. I’d be angry, too.
The police say they have no evidence of an abduction, so they’re not issuing an amber alert. Yet they also say that they don’t believe the parents are involved in this. So, if neither of the parents knows where the kids are, and they aren’t involved, but the kids are missing, doesn’t that qualify as an abduction?
I suppose they may think the kids just wandered off, but if that’s the case, why have they curtailed their searches?
The other odd thing for me is that most abductions by pedos and the like are of a single child, because you have more control. Two kids are harder to manage, don’t you think??
This one isn’t adding up for me, but it’s not the parents so much — at least based on what we know — it’s how the police are handling it. Shouldn’t the police — and the community at large — be more up in arms and DOING something to find these kids??
Poor kids. I really hope they find them soon, and that they’re a little less scared because they’re together.
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thepooh5
Jun 17, 2008 at 2:41 pm -You may be onto something, Ruby. I don’t know. Something is just off. I can’t put my finger on it. I want you to be right about the parents.
And your point about the kids missing and the parents not knowing where they are and are not suspect, one would think that would qualify as an abduction. If not, what else is it? The kids aren’t there and I would think by now, if they had wondered off, that the 7 year old would have asked some adult to call his mommy or daddy, if he didn’t have a cell phone in his pocket himself. Yes, I know kids that have phones at that age and younger. It makes you wonder. But then again, if they had had a phone the parents could have, at least called them.
As to the community being up in arms, YES they should be. But, I don’t expect it. Hell, that would be thinking of someone else other than themselves. Look at poor little Sergio. I hope that having each other is of some small comfort to the children, as well.
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WryBread
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:03 pm -http://www.click2houston.com/v.....index.html
Additional interview. I feel hinky about this situation. The police say the parents’ stories don’t match. The FBI is involved now — can they just enter any case if asked, or does it have to involve transportation across state lines?
It’s kind of sad when parents display material goodies to prove that they are good parents. I had a woman and her daughter living behind my apartment once. When they moved out in the middle of the night to beat the rent, they left behind a mountain of kid’s toys. Stuff is easy to get.
The mother has that accusatory, declamatory style that grates on my nerves. Instant “putting out a message” that the city has failed her and instant defense of herself, instead of fear and pleading for the kids. Daddy is roaming around the complex all morning, according to the 2nd interview, but won’t talk on camera.
Maybe these people just have a style that I don’t like, so I’ll wait and see how it all turns out. I hope these kids are okay. It seems strange that no one has a clue where they could be.
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the shiznet
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:26 pm -Have any of you ever misplaced your kids for a minute or two and had a complete breakdown. Maybe I’m the only freak who looks in the backyard and can’t find my child and then starts hyperventilating and having heart palpitations until I locate said child approx 2 minutes later. Then I’m sick to my stomach and a complete wreck for the rest of the day. I have a really difficult time imagining that 2 small children are missing and you have the presence of mind to show off their toys and speak in complete sentences. Not saying she’s guilty, not saying anything other than wow, she’s pretty calm.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:29 pm -they have taken the dad into custody to answer more questions today…..hmmmm, we’ve got to know soon what happened….he lashed out at the news media today saying that they needed to be out looking for his children and not bothering him….what a loser!!!
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WryBread
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:32 pm -I feel that way when I can’t find my dog in my apartment for a moment or two! I can’t imagine how awful it would be to lose track of your children out of doors.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:33 pm -he is a suspect according to http://www.abc13.com
PASADENA, TX (KTRK) — The father of two Pasadena area children missing since is now in police custody and is being called a suspect.
Randy Sylvester is being held on traffic warrants out of Bellaire. His children, Randy Sylvester, Jr., 7, and his sister, Denim, 3, were last seen Sunday afternoon. The children, according to their mother, were playing in the tennis court at an apartment complex on Burke Road and Fairmont Parkway when they disappeared.
Sylvester willingly went with detectives to answer questions earlier today. Authorities say he had agreed to take a polygraph test, but later refused. At that point, he reportedly resisted arrest.
The Pasadena Police Department isn’t saying much about this case, only that it’s ongoing. The mother of the children also declined to speak today. The FBI confirms they are involved in the case.
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thepooh5
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:38 pm -Yes and no. I lost my son, I thought in a department store once. But he had just backed into the clothes rack. I guess he thought it would be funny to watch mommie publicly shit. And, that’s exactly what I did.
But like you, even after I found him standing 2 feet away from me, that was it. I was freaked out the rest of the day. What if he had really been gone? I honestly had no idea where he had went or who may have taken him. I would have been useless to the investigation. All of that set in on me about 30 minutes later. I just lost it and cried and held my child and cried some more.
Maybe her calmness compared to my past experience, is what doesn’t set right with me. I don’t know nor am I pointing the finger, yet. But, that was a good point to make and my kid was missing for like two minutes, not two days. I remember instantly feeling my stomach knot up. I called his name a few times and then ran and I do mean RAN to the front door, inspecting anyone with a child or big package. While in my run, I had called out to the lady working the closest register and told her to lock the doors and not let anyone out with a child that mine was missing. A lady who had been shopping close to me spotted his shoes under the clothes and got my attention. I thought my life was gone in those two minutes, if it was that much. I can’t even put into words the horror I felt and the terrible imaginations that I had in that small amount of time. If it had been two days, I’d have been committed to a hospital, I bet.
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mumtokai
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:42 pm -you guys are right.. there is something off when the mother looks into the camera and says “we did not hurt our children”.. body language is off.
she said this statement two times and every time she said that sentence, her eyes quickly looked down/towards left.. she knows something.
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the shiznet
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:44 pm -I noticed that about her eyes too. She looks down/left immediately after she says it. I was thinking, oh she knows.
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WryBread
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:45 pm -http://www.chron.com/disp/stor.....39755.html
More details about the search, which was more extensive than it appeared in the first story. The FBI came in because of the kids’ ages. It all gets stranger.
The mother seems more distressed now.
There are 500 comments on this story. People are divided between praying the kids are safe and wondering about the parents.
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SqueakyClean
Jun 17, 2008 at 4:54 pm -Am I to understand a 7 and a 3 year old were supposedly out on the tennis court outside of an apartment, with no adult supervision??? Maybe I’m just overprotective as a parent, but that sounds insane to me.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 5:03 pm -lol, i wonder if those reporters get hazard pay……..
Sylvester directed his anger at news crews when reporters tried to check in with him earlier Tuesday.
“How are you feeling right now?” KPRC Local 2 reporter Carl Willis asked.
“I’m feeling like I want to fight all of y’all at one time. All y’all strap up, you heard me?” he said.
“We’re just trying to help sir,” Willis said.
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the shiznet
Jun 17, 2008 at 5:06 pm -From what I understand from watching the news video, mom was on the porch watching them and went inside to clean when they disappeared. Another neighbor said something to the effect of they played out there all the time and someone was usually watching from a balcony. Which seems odd that no one heard anything or saw someone out of place if they could see the tennis courts from the balconies. I personally dont think those kids disappeared from the tennis courts.
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tricia1971
Jun 17, 2008 at 5:39 pm -according to the press conference…..
blood hounds tracked the girl’s scent from the tennis courts, to the father’s apartment, then to his car…..they have some places in harris county that they will be looking…..these are places he has been in his car.
he agreed to take a polygraph but when it came time to do it, he was emotional and refused…..
they decided to arrest him on traffic stuff and he resisted arrest….they also are thinking about charging him with domestic assult from an incident with the kid’s mother on monday….
the mother has said that the father has made references that it’s “time to move on” indicating that maybe the kids are gone….it wasn’t specific just some “read between the lines” references i would put it….
He is a suspect at this point…………
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ARedRouletteKiss
Jun 17, 2008 at 6:25 pm -So stories like these make me afraid to ever have kids or get married….think I’ll go to the sperm bank, but really. I think the mom seems more upset in the second video, I’m one of those people who don’t like to show emotion in the face of adversity because I figure a lot of sickos like to see the damage they caused. The dad seems pretty fishy….It scares me that he would say “It’s time to move on.” That just smells like foulplay to me. I hope not.
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WryBread
Jun 17, 2008 at 7:42 pm -http://www.click2houston.com/n.....etail.html
Report about father now being a suspect and the video of him yelling at the reporters.
“Y’all are not worried about my kids, because if so, y’all would be out there looking for them, too. You feel me? You wouldn’t be out here in my face,” he said.”
You feel me? Has anyone else ever heard this idiom before? What does it mean? “Do you feel what I’m feeling?” “Do you understand what I’m saying?” “Do you feel afraid of me?” “Do you recognize my emotional state?”
This is a “Katrina” family. What a sad thing to happen after going through that disaster.
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ARedRouletteKiss
Jun 17, 2008 at 7:57 pm -So the little girl must have been a newborn when it happened….
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Lynn
Jun 17, 2008 at 7:58 pm -They are saying it is now a recover effort? The father has been arrested on capital murder charges? I got that from the comments at your link. Could it be that the blood hounds were actually cadaver dogs and they hit on dads apartment and car? It is said that dad made statements to mom to the affect “they are gone and you need to move on”. I will look for links to substantiate these claims. So far, consider it rumors.
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ARedRouletteKiss
Jun 17, 2008 at 7:59 pm -So the little girl must have been a newborn when it happened….well I guess that could explain the whole victimization distrust of authorities attitude.
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WryBread
Jun 17, 2008 at 8:32 pm -Yeah, that could do it! Good point!
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impqueen
Jun 17, 2008 at 8:37 pm -All I’ve heard so far is that the father is a suspect, Denim’s name may be spelled “Dennon” but then again maybe not; the bloodhounds did track the little girl to Daddy’s car but no reference was made to Randy Jr.
I think this case will break in the next 12-24 hours if not sooner. I’ll be on early in the morning to update, so if anyone gets anything before then, please feel free to post it here.
My gut tells me that both parents know. Mama’s affect still bugs me, I can’t help it. She may not be guilty, but something’s not right there.
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WryBread
Jun 17, 2008 at 8:45 pm -A part of the article I linked to in #26.
“Pasadena police chief Bud Corbett said the children’s father, Randy Sylvester, is being investigated on capital murder charges and considered a suspect, although he has not confessed.
“Corbett said Sylvester is the only suspect.
“The father made, according to the mother, multiple inferences that the kids were dead and it was time to move on,” he said.
“Corbett also said that a bloodhound was able to track Denim’s scent from the tennis court to the door of Randy Sylvester’s apartment and to his vehicle.”
I think in the video that goes along with this article, the reporter says that police are being to consider the idea that this may be a recovery instead of a rescue search. It may have been another video in which I heard this though.
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psychcounselor4U
Jun 18, 2008 at 12:08 am -There are many ways to react to a situation like this. You would have to know the person to know or understand their reaction. Passing a value judgement based upon how you would react is wrong. Mrs. St. Cyr-Sylvester and her husband are parents caught in a situation that is forcing them to segment themselves in order to try to deal with the fact that their children are missing. Their angry, their scared, their hurt, their helpless and an array of other emotions all at one time. We have a tendency to say what we would do until we are actually placed into that situation. So I ask that we put triviality aside (the daughter’s name) and focus on the important issues. We need to be hopeful, prayful and steadfast in the resolve that these children will be returned to their parents in the same condition that they were in prior to being taken.
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WryBread
Jun 18, 2008 at 12:55 am -Denim is a weird name for a child. It’s a fabric and a sort of downscale fabric at that. I hope her name is Dennon.
How can you be a counselor and use words like triviality and not know the difference between “their” and “they’re?” What is the point of being “steadfast in the resolve” when it’s really out of our hands? I can be steadfast in the resolve all I want, but that’s not going to help them find the kids. And what do you mean “in the same condition” — do you mean alive and unharmed?
There is something patronizing and preachy-teachy about your post. I don’t need to be told to pray for the kids. I can make that decision on my own.
I hope these little kids are all right and their daddy didn’t murder them on Father’s Day. It would be a thrilling thing to have this all work out all right.
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Lizard
Jun 18, 2008 at 12:56 am -You’re assuming that both parents have no involvement in whatever happened to the children. If you spend enough time here, you will learn that too often a child goes missing or is found dead because of the actions or inaction of a parent. You’ll also learn that many of our posters have professional experience with such situations (including being “psychcounselors4us”), so if you think posters here are immediately going to gasp, place their hands over their mouths, and say, “How terrible for the parents!” you’re posting at the wrong place. We also aren’t known for being a particularly “prayerful” bunch, and if you were much of a “psychcounselor,” you’d know that discussing “trivialities” is not uncommon when dealing with what may be a horrifying situation.
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Barbara
Jun 18, 2008 at 1:21 am -BabyDaddy got tired of paying child support, is my guess……
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Hippiepoet
Jun 18, 2008 at 1:22 am -QUOTE from ….I Wish I was A Psychcounselor4U ….”We need to be hopeful, prayful and steadfast in the resolve that these children will be returned to their parents in the same condition that they were in prior to being taken.”
Prayful. What the fuck kind of word is that shit? I agree with Wry here, you sound kind of ….let me see what’s a good word…how about Preachful.
btw who are you going to be prayful to? Just curious.
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Lizard
Jun 18, 2008 at 1:25 am -I dunno. Not worse than “impqueen.”
I just spent some time studying this photo. They’re such beautiful children. I’d love to hug both of them. I hope they’re around to get more hugs.
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shonnie99
Jun 18, 2008 at 3:23 am -Wow! I’ve been reading the post on here and I can say u people r not the brightest apples on the tree. The kids and their parent’s are from New Orleans. To WRYBREAD!!!The language that the father was using “you feel me” and “you heard me” is what we say when we’re trying to see if your listening or that you’re understanding what I may be saying. So for him to say they should be looking for his kids and not in his face is because people in New Orleans don’t talk to the news or police that’s just the way it is. Yes, the child’s name is Denim, just like April is a month but is used as a name so what does it have to do with the issue at hand two kids are missing and all you prople seem to be more concerned with is whether the parents did it and the childs name. In New Orleans we are customed to letting our kids go out and play with the other neighborhood kids and they always return home. Our murder rate may be high but you don’t here about any abducted kids. With the bloodhound picking up Denims scent from the tennis court, to her dad’s house and then to his car is could be from them spending the day with him since it was father’s day. So that alone could not cause him to be suspect.
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Lizard
Jun 18, 2008 at 3:35 am -Wow! I’ve been reading ur post on here and I can say u are not the best speller on the tree! And it’s also clear that if the folks you’re talking about are not “the brightest apples” on the tree, then it stands to reason that you didn’t even MAKE the tree. You must be a clod of dirt at the base of the tree!
Can you read, moron? The authorities are now considering the father a suspect. And if the authorities in New Orleans are so pathetic that they must resort to considering completely innocent parents as suspects, then anyone with children ought to just move the fuck out.
These children did NOT return home. You’re even more a moron than I think you already are if you imagine that New Orleans is some special, safe place for children. I guess you don’t have abducted kids, just murdered ones. And it’s “accustomed.”
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MzBehavin
Jun 18, 2008 at 5:06 am -I guess it’s just my loving, protective nature, but I have NEVER let my three year old out of the house without an adult present. (not even the yard cause we have a snakes out here in the sticks!)
Didn’t you hear, these 2 children have been abducted. (in Texas, BTW)
I hope these kids are found safe and that the person(s) responsible rots away in prison. Your post says nothing like that, you just wanted to come here and defend the parents, one of which is a suspect. Don’t shame us because the parents didn’t do their job.
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Dakota Valkyrie
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:20 am -Shonnie99’s post didn’t make any excuses and was only trying to point out what he/she feels about the involvement of the culture of where the folks are from. Doesn’t even say those factors should not be taken into consideration - just that those should not be criteria all by themselves.
But saying we are not the brightest apples though, is a bit hypocritical.
I live in an area where young children playing outside with an older sibling is common. However, most folks also insist on keeping a line of site and would check very frequently from the deck or at least a window. Very few would let them out of the back yard.
In a more populated area - which I consider New Orleans and Pasadena TX to be, I agree that kids shouldn’t be out - not only with adult supervision - but also from a vantage point where you could run at catch them if they are in danger. (not watching from the balcony!)
I think the dad probably did it for whatever sick reason he had. The police should have good reason to suspect him. As for the mom, she may be involved or at least realize what her ex did after the fact. I doubt dad is that good of an actor.
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bogustoo
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:22 am -Here’s a What If. How in the world would she be able to help those kids from a BALCONY if someone were to abduct them from the tennis courts? It upsets me to no end that these children were allowed to play outside unsupervised. (No, I do NOT consider the fact that she “watched” them from a balcony supervision, considering the ages of these kids.)
I see a lot of this in my neighborhood. There are four year olds allowed to be outside, roaming the streets ALL DAY with no supervision. And these parents are the first ones to cry foul if something happens to their children, no matter what it is.
I’ve had a gut feeling that the father did something to these kids since I first read this story. And at the very least, the mother is guilty of neglect.
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bogustoo
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:27 am -That alone is reason enough NOT to let your kids play outside without adult supervision. The murderers have enough morals to leave kids alone? You are an idiot.
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impqueen
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:40 am -or, y’know, “Lizard”.
At least in our cases, we got to pick. This poor kid was named Denim by her own mother, which may be trivial but is still freakin’ sad. Or funny. Or kinda cute. I have to admit it’s sort of growing on me.
And yes, it is “Denim”, not “Dennon” as one poorly informed Fox affiliate kept spelling it. They were probably going “Oh no she didn’t name that baby Denim, it’s gotta be a typo.” Nope.
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tricia1971
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:40 am -All I have to say is, I thought we lived in America where people speak proper English. You’re defending someone who speaks a language that is considered my most a filty, trashy, thug-ish dialog. People from NO don’t talk to the news? Well mama was sure talkin a lot until she found out that daddy was involved. Now what? I don’t care where I live, my kids would never be allowed to run around unsupervised at that age. You are the idiot here. Go back to NO and live your fantasy life dumbass. Maybe another hurricane will hit. I’m sorry but that person’s post just pissed me off!
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tricia1971
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:46 am -I would like to say that in an earlier news story, a neighbor reported seeing the kids with the dad around 1:50pm………i don’t know to what extent but it was reported. They’ve been searching all night and as of this morning, there have been no updates on the local news.
This guy is just a sich MF is all I can say
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impqueen
Jun 18, 2008 at 7:54 am -No it isn’t. In fact, it’s what profilers do - they take the norm and study deviations therefrom, as you should well know if you do in fact have a psych degree (clearly you don’t have one in English.) Deviations from the norm are threatening to assault the press who is trying to help you find your children, as Randy Sylvester did.
Another deviation from the norm is the downward left glance used by Jerilynn St. Cyr when she says “we did not hurt our babies.” She may not have hurt them, but by Monday and probably on Sunday, she knew good and well who had. As a psychologist, you should be well familiar with “tells”. That one is hers.
A third deviation from the norm is failure to ask for police help in finding the children until they had been missing for over five hours. You can cry Katrina all you want, that is not normal. Her defensive attitude about same on video indicated to me that she knows that was a poor decision, and it also makes her look guilty - of neglect, at best. Of complicity to murder or outright murder, at worst.
I wanna know which college gave you that degree so we can ask you to pass the essay portion of the boards again. I would also ask you to spend some time here before you try to school our members in politically correct behavior.
We do care for these children, and we are hopeful that they are alive, although three days in that’s sadly unlikely. If the only bright spot in this whole case is a little girl’s whimsical name, then at least none of us will forget her name. So it may seem trivial to you, but to me, it’s a dead certainty that I will remember Denim Sylvester because she’s the only kid named Denim i’ve ever seen. And she and her brother Randy are beautiful children who are probably no longer alive because of the actions of their parents. That’s hardly trivial.
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tricia1971
Jun 18, 2008 at 8:06 am -Sorry for the post-whoring but I’m just getting caught up on the overnight stories. Did ya’ll see the video on http://www.abc13.com where the dad told the reporters “to strap up”? Lol, I thought he was going for something under his shirt til I realized he was just holding up his pants. How dare anyone criticize us for being judgemental. I say if you’re gonna leave yourself open to be judged, well need I say more. That dude is a real piece of work I say.
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tricia1971
Jun 18, 2008 at 8:18 am -It appears he ran his mouth to others also, I read the following on another report…..