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Josue Fraga Raped A Toddler To Death

June 3, 2008 at 3:46 pm by  

20080603155302qb5 Josue Fraga Raped A Toddler To Death

WORTHINGTON, Minn. - This story has been posted in our forums and discussed at length already, but it made me so sick, I wanted to post this up front. Without sugar-coating things too much, Josue Robles Fraga, 34, raped his 2-year-old niece to death. He had been caring for the girl and her brother after his brother was no longer able to do so. A grand jury indicted him on a charge of first-degree murder of Samantha Fraga on Friday and will face the rest of his life behind bars. For the sickening details, keep on reading. It gets graphic, so you have been warned.

First, I have worked out a timeline of sorts, based off of the police reports reports. It goes something like this:

7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner
9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper
10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed
11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)
2:20 am – Josue checks on kids
2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work
2:31 am – Wife punches out of work
2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV
3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed
4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV
5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.
5:35 am Samantha brought to ER
6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead
6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

Here are some, not all, of the injuries Samantha suffered…I’m no doctor, but this list reads as if she got raped…then ran over by a goddamn car.

-Penatrated both vaginally and anally
-Traumatic head injuries resulting in hemorrhage of the right optic nerve and subdural hematoma and a subarachnoid hemorrhage of the frontal lobe.
-Multiple contusions of extremities
-Contusions of the trunk
-Traumatic injuries to the vagina including contusions to the posterior aspect of the vagina and edema to labia majora
-A prolapsed rectum with contusions of the rectal ring
-Peritoritis
-Ruptured stomach via compression, resulting in 300 cc’s of contents to empty into abdominal cavity

The doctor who noted all of this placed the little girls time of death as BEFORE 2:30 am. Also, while being questioned, detectives noticed shit on Josue’s pants. These were conviscated as evidence. But I am posting this for another reason, as Josue has been taken care of (even though I had a much better alternative that should have been used), but what about the wife. Surely she lied on more than one occasion. From the time she said they went to bed, to stating she did not notice a fucking prolapsed rectum when she put a diaper on a dead girl.

It was also reported that at the time of Fraga’s arrest, he was driving around Adrian with his brother and his wife. It is believed they were trying to locate his children at that time. Several of his children and his nephew were removed from the home after Samantha’s death. It was also reported that Fraga had asked a mechanic to take a look at a van he wanted to use to drive back to Mexico. Of course, once again, his wife was clueless about this.

So what do you think. Has justice been served?

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  • nobletrish

    Give me the gun,noose,or switch…I would use anyone of them without a bit of guilt. I can’t believe that the wife knew nothing??? Hopefully in the future we will here that she has been charged as well.
    May this precious baby girl rest in peace.

  • nobletrish

    Give me the gun,noose,or switch…I would use anyone of them without a bit of guilt. I can’t believe that the wife knew nothing??? Hopefully in the future we will here that she has been charged as well.
    May this precious baby girl rest in peace.

  • nobletrish

    Give me the gun,noose,or switch…I would use anyone of them without a bit of guilt. I can’t believe that the wife knew nothing??? Hopefully in the future we will here that she has been charged as well.
    May this precious baby girl rest in peace.

  • nobletrish

    Give me the gun,noose,or switch…I would use anyone of them without a bit of guilt. I can’t believe that the wife knew nothing??? Hopefully in the future we will here that she has been charged as well.
    May this precious baby girl rest in peace.

  • April

    MAKE IT STOP!!!!

  • April

    MAKE IT STOP!!!!

  • April

    MAKE IT STOP!!!!

  • April

    MAKE IT STOP!!!!

  • nobletrish

    Give me the gun,noose,or switch…I would use anyone of them without a bit of guilt. I can’t believe that the wife knew nothing??? Hopefully in the future we will here that she has been charged as well.
    May this precious baby girl rest in peace.

  • April

    MAKE IT STOP!!!!

  • nobletrish

    Give me the gun,noose,or switch…I would use anyone of them without a bit of guilt. I can’t believe that the wife knew nothing??? Hopefully in the future we will here that she has been charged as well.
    May this precious baby girl rest in peace.

  • April

    MAKE IT STOP!!!!

  • mom of 4

    Justice served? Not yet in my opinion. First Josue needs to be tortured slowly and then fucked to death with all kinds of foreign object. Second? His wife needs to be arrested and charged. She lied and lied again and innocent people don’t do that. Third? The brother that is defending him with the usual “he is a great dad, he wouldn’t do this” BS needs a slap upside his head. Time to think about the little niece that is dead asshole!

  • mom of 4

    Justice served? Not yet in my opinion. First Josue needs to be tortured slowly and then fucked to death with all kinds of foreign object. Second? His wife needs to be arrested and charged. She lied and lied again and innocent people don’t do that. Third? The brother that is defending him with the usual “he is a great dad, he wouldn’t do this” BS needs a slap upside his head. Time to think about the little niece that is dead asshole!

  • mom of 4

    Justice served? Not yet in my opinion. First Josue needs to be tortured slowly and then fucked to death with all kinds of foreign object. Second? His wife needs to be arrested and charged. She lied and lied again and innocent people don’t do that. Third? The brother that is defending him with the usual “he is a great dad, he wouldn’t do this” BS needs a slap upside his head. Time to think about the little niece that is dead asshole!

  • freakinfantastic

    I am hardly EVER at a loss for words, but I am too sick after reading this to come up with anything! Rot in hell you fucking piece of shit! And even that would be too good for you!

  • freakinfantastic

    I am hardly EVER at a loss for words, but I am too sick after reading this to come up with anything! Rot in hell you fucking piece of shit! And even that would be too good for you!

  • freakinfantastic

    I am hardly EVER at a loss for words, but I am too sick after reading this to come up with anything! Rot in hell you fucking piece of shit! And even that would be too good for you!

  • freakinfantastic

    I am hardly EVER at a loss for words, but I am too sick after reading this to come up with anything! Rot in hell you fucking piece of shit! And even that would be too good for you!

  • Miss. Hill

    Josue is a disgusting individual who deserves to be dead. I can’t stomach his kind of depravity he sickens me beyond words, he should be fucking DEAD!

    Oh and his cunt wife, fuck her, lying bitch! She deserves to be in jail, and she better never be allowed near her children or anyone else’s again!

    I dreamt about this last night, I am sick over what that little girl went through, physically sick. I hate the mother fucker that made this little girl suffer and took her life due to his sick urges!

  • Miss. Hill

    Josue is a disgusting individual who deserves to be dead. I can’t stomach his kind of depravity he sickens me beyond words, he should be fucking DEAD!

    Oh and his cunt wife, fuck her, lying bitch! She deserves to be in jail, and she better never be allowed near her children or anyone else’s again!

    I dreamt about this last night, I am sick over what that little girl went through, physically sick. I hate the mother fucker that made this little girl suffer and took her life due to his sick urges!

  • Miss. Hill

    Josue is a disgusting individual who deserves to be dead. I can’t stomach his kind of depravity he sickens me beyond words, he should be fucking DEAD!

    Oh and his cunt wife, fuck her, lying bitch! She deserves to be in jail, and she better never be allowed near her children or anyone else’s again!

    I dreamt about this last night, I am sick over what that little girl went through, physically sick. I hate the mother fucker that made this little girl suffer and took her life due to his sick urges!

  • Miss. Hill

    Josue is a disgusting individual who deserves to be dead. I can’t stomach his kind of depravity he sickens me beyond words, he should be fucking DEAD!

    Oh and his cunt wife, fuck her, lying bitch! She deserves to be in jail, and she better never be allowed near her children or anyone else’s again!

    I dreamt about this last night, I am sick over what that little girl went through, physically sick. I hate the mother fucker that made this little girl suffer and took her life due to his sick urges!

  • Miss. Hill

    Josue is a disgusting individual who deserves to be dead. I can’t stomach his kind of depravity he sickens me beyond words, he should be fucking DEAD!

    Oh and his cunt wife, fuck her, lying bitch! She deserves to be in jail, and she better never be allowed near her children or anyone else’s again!

    I dreamt about this last night, I am sick over what that little girl went through, physically sick. I hate the mother fucker that made this little girl suffer and took her life due to his sick urges!

  • Miss. Hill

    Josue is a disgusting individual who deserves to be dead. I can’t stomach his kind of depravity he sickens me beyond words, he should be fucking DEAD!

    Oh and his cunt wife, fuck her, lying bitch! She deserves to be in jail, and she better never be allowed near her children or anyone else’s again!

    I dreamt about this last night, I am sick over what that little girl went through, physically sick. I hate the mother fucker that made this little girl suffer and took her life due to his sick urges!

  • Luci

    I just hope that the poor baby was dead with one fast blow and that she didn’t have to suffer through the stomach rupture and rape part of this crime.. Stupid bastard needs to have his intestines prolapsed and dick cut off!!! I would be oh so fucking happy to do it for him! And his stupid cunt of a wife should be rotting in jail with him and become someones bitch for them to rape as well! Fucking IDIOTS!

  • Luci

    I just hope that the poor baby was dead with one fast blow and that she didn’t have to suffer through the stomach rupture and rape part of this crime.. Stupid bastard needs to have his intestines prolapsed and dick cut off!!! I would be oh so fucking happy to do it for him! And his stupid cunt of a wife should be rotting in jail with him and become someones bitch for them to rape as well! Fucking IDIOTS!

  • Luci

    I just hope that the poor baby was dead with one fast blow and that she didn’t have to suffer through the stomach rupture and rape part of this crime.. Stupid bastard needs to have his intestines prolapsed and dick cut off!!! I would be oh so fucking happy to do it for him! And his stupid cunt of a wife should be rotting in jail with him and become someones bitch for them to rape as well! Fucking IDIOTS!

  • Luci

    I just hope that the poor baby was dead with one fast blow and that she didn’t have to suffer through the stomach rupture and rape part of this crime.. Stupid bastard needs to have his intestines prolapsed and dick cut off!!! I would be oh so fucking happy to do it for him! And his stupid cunt of a wife should be rotting in jail with him and become someones bitch for them to rape as well! Fucking IDIOTS!

  • Luci

    I just hope that the poor baby was dead with one fast blow and that she didn’t have to suffer through the stomach rupture and rape part of this crime.. Stupid bastard needs to have his intestines prolapsed and dick cut off!!! I would be oh so fucking happy to do it for him! And his stupid cunt of a wife should be rotting in jail with him and become someones bitch for them to rape as well! Fucking IDIOTS!

  • Luci

    I just hope that the poor baby was dead with one fast blow and that she didn’t have to suffer through the stomach rupture and rape part of this crime.. Stupid bastard needs to have his intestines prolapsed and dick cut off!!! I would be oh so fucking happy to do it for him! And his stupid cunt of a wife should be rotting in jail with him and become someones bitch for them to rape as well! Fucking IDIOTS!

  • Lilbay

    Justice will only be served when we attach one end of a rope around her thumbs and around his nuts and hang it over a very high branch
    Both these POS’s make me so sick I wish i knew i could be her celly i would go get locked up jut to spend one night with access to her for lying and not helping this baby And you know damn well this could not have been a once in a lifetime thing so she had to have some clue of what was happening WTF makes women stay with these type guys??

    Gawd I want to read that he was attacked in a jailhouse shower so badly.
    That poor child. The final thing was the fact they then tried to blame this sick shit on the little brother Wow talk about low

  • Lilbay

    Justice will only be served when we attach one end of a rope around her thumbs and around his nuts and hang it over a very high branch
    Both these POS’s make me so sick I wish i knew i could be her celly i would go get locked up jut to spend one night with access to her for lying and not helping this baby And you know damn well this could not have been a once in a lifetime thing so she had to have some clue of what was happening WTF makes women stay with these type guys??

    Gawd I want to read that he was attacked in a jailhouse shower so badly.
    That poor child. The final thing was the fact they then tried to blame this sick shit on the little brother Wow talk about low

  • Lilbay

    Justice will only be served when we attach one end of a rope around her thumbs and around his nuts and hang it over a very high branch
    Both these POS’s make me so sick I wish i knew i could be her celly i would go get locked up jut to spend one night with access to her for lying and not helping this baby And you know damn well this could not have been a once in a lifetime thing so she had to have some clue of what was happening WTF makes women stay with these type guys??

    Gawd I want to read that he was attacked in a jailhouse shower so badly.
    That poor child. The final thing was the fact they then tried to blame this sick shit on the little brother Wow talk about low

  • Lilbay

    Justice will only be served when we attach one end of a rope around her thumbs and around his nuts and hang it over a very high branch
    Both these POS’s make me so sick I wish i knew i could be her celly i would go get locked up jut to spend one night with access to her for lying and not helping this baby And you know damn well this could not have been a once in a lifetime thing so she had to have some clue of what was happening WTF makes women stay with these type guys??

    Gawd I want to read that he was attacked in a jailhouse shower so badly.
    That poor child. The final thing was the fact they then tried to blame this sick shit on the little brother Wow talk about low

  • Lilbay

    Justice will only be served when we attach one end of a rope around her thumbs and around his nuts and hang it over a very high branch
    Both these POS’s make me so sick I wish i knew i could be her celly i would go get locked up jut to spend one night with access to her for lying and not helping this baby And you know damn well this could not have been a once in a lifetime thing so she had to have some clue of what was happening WTF makes women stay with these type guys??

    Gawd I want to read that he was attacked in a jailhouse shower so badly.
    That poor child. The final thing was the fact they then tried to blame this sick shit on the little brother Wow talk about low

  • Lilbay

    Justice will only be served when we attach one end of a rope around her thumbs and around his nuts and hang it over a very high branch
    Both these POS’s make me so sick I wish i knew i could be her celly i would go get locked up jut to spend one night with access to her for lying and not helping this baby And you know damn well this could not have been a once in a lifetime thing so she had to have some clue of what was happening WTF makes women stay with these type guys??

    Gawd I want to read that he was attacked in a jailhouse shower so badly.
    That poor child. The final thing was the fact they then tried to blame this sick shit on the little brother Wow talk about low

  • Anonymous

    The guy is a total piece of shit. I’m not sure about the mom. She may well be. The only chance she isn’t is this, and it is possible:

    I think there’s something on this timeline that *isn’t* true, namely the detail about the other child jumping on the baby. I think shithead probably made that up to try and cover tracks for the injuries. So, mom went to change diaper, noticed baby was injured, baby taken to hospital. She may well not have put it together–come to think of it, this could be even more likely if the baby really was jumped on, as alleged, as well as being brutally abused by the father.

  • Anonymous

    The guy is a total piece of shit. I’m not sure about the mom. She may well be. The only chance she isn’t is this, and it is possible:

    I think there’s something on this timeline that *isn’t* true, namely the detail about the other child jumping on the baby. I think shithead probably made that up to try and cover tracks for the injuries. So, mom went to change diaper, noticed baby was injured, baby taken to hospital. She may well not have put it together–come to think of it, this could be even more likely if the baby really was jumped on, as alleged, as well as being brutally abused by the father.

  • Anonymous

    The guy is a total piece of shit. I’m not sure about the mom. She may well be. The only chance she isn’t is this, and it is possible:

    I think there’s something on this timeline that *isn’t* true, namely the detail about the other child jumping on the baby. I think shithead probably made that up to try and cover tracks for the injuries. So, mom went to change diaper, noticed baby was injured, baby taken to hospital. She may well not have put it together–come to think of it, this could be even more likely if the baby really was jumped on, as alleged, as well as being brutally abused by the father.

  • Anonymous

    The guy is a total piece of shit. I’m not sure about the mom. She may well be. The only chance she isn’t is this, and it is possible:

    I think there’s something on this timeline that *isn’t* true, namely the detail about the other child jumping on the baby. I think shithead probably made that up to try and cover tracks for the injuries. So, mom went to change diaper, noticed baby was injured, baby taken to hospital. She may well not have put it together–come to think of it, this could be even more likely if the baby really was jumped on, as alleged, as well as being brutally abused by the father.

  • sugarglider

    The guy is a total piece of shit. I’m not sure about the mom. She may well be. The only chance she isn’t is this, and it is possible:

    I think there’s something on this timeline that *isn’t* true, namely the detail about the other child jumping on the baby. I think shithead probably made that up to try and cover tracks for the injuries. So, mom went to change diaper, noticed baby was injured, baby taken to hospital. She may well not have put it together–come to think of it, this could be even more likely if the baby really was jumped on, as alleged, as well as being brutally abused by the father.

  • solange822001

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

  • solange822001

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

  • solange822001

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

  • solange822001

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

  • mom of 4

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

    Well i don’t want to get to graphic around my dinner time Solange but just for you…..

    He anally raped this poor little 2 year old on top of all the other disgusting things he did to her. I suspect he was wearing the same pants when he went to the hospital and subsequently when he spoke to the cops.

    Nuff said???

  • mom of 4

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

    Well i don’t want to get to graphic around my dinner time Solange but just for you…..

    He anally raped this poor little 2 year old on top of all the other disgusting things he did to her. I suspect he was wearing the same pants when he went to the hospital and subsequently when he spoke to the cops.

    Nuff said???

  • mom of 4

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

    Well i don’t want to get to graphic around my dinner time Solange but just for you…..

    He anally raped this poor little 2 year old on top of all the other disgusting things he did to her. I suspect he was wearing the same pants when he went to the hospital and subsequently when he spoke to the cops.

    Nuff said???

  • mom of 4

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

    Well i don’t want to get to graphic around my dinner time Solange but just for you…..

    He anally raped this poor little 2 year old on top of all the other disgusting things he did to her. I suspect he was wearing the same pants when he went to the hospital and subsequently when he spoke to the cops.

    Nuff said???

  • mom of 4

    I’m confused about the shit in his pants part, and him being taken care of. Sorry, can someone elaborate? I will go check the forums too to see if that answers my questions…

    Well i don’t want to get to graphic around my dinner time Solange but just for you…..

    He anally raped this poor little 2 year old on top of all the other disgusting things he did to her. I suspect he was wearing the same pants when he went to the hospital and subsequently when he spoke to the cops.

    Nuff said???

  • SqueakyClean

    Maaaaaaaaaaaaan, I hope this guy gets gang raped in prison. Violently, brutally, repeatedly. I want him to suffer the way this innocent child suffered

  • SqueakyClean

    Maaaaaaaaaaaaan, I hope this guy gets gang raped in prison. Violently, brutally, repeatedly. I want him to suffer the way this innocent child suffered

  • SqueakyClean

    Maaaaaaaaaaaaan, I hope this guy gets gang raped in prison. Violently, brutally, repeatedly. I want him to suffer the way this innocent child suffered

  • mom of 4

    Oh and here is why I don’t believe his wife had no idea.

    She and the POS told cops they were in bed at 3:30am and didn’t wake up until 5:30 am when the POS claims he saw the brother jumping on the baby. However their 13 year old son told police he got up at 4:18am (he looked at the clock) to go to the bathroom. The baby was not in her bed or her room and mom was still up washing dishes and dad was in front of the TV. I believe the 13 year old because he has not a single reason to make that up and lie to the cops.

    The other part I don’t buy is her story about turning on the light and changing the baby’s diaper and seeing no injuries. Again I don’t want to be graphic but I have had the misfortune of seeing the after effects of vaginal and anal rape on a small child and this child’s intestines were protruding from her anus. That coupled with the heavy bleeding that occurs would require someone who is bat shit blind not to see it. The cops must have felt the same way because they showed her pictures of the damage and asked her how she didn’t notice. She gave the usual “it didn’t look like that when I changed her” BS. I strongly suspect thats why her own children were removed from her care even though he was arrested and not getting out out anytime soon.

  • mom of 4

    Oh and here is why I don’t believe his wife had no idea.

    She and the POS told cops they were in bed at 3:30am and didn’t wake up until 5:30 am when the POS claims he saw the brother jumping on the baby. However their 13 year old son told police he got up at 4:18am (he looked at the clock) to go to the bathroom. The baby was not in her bed or her room and mom was still up washing dishes and dad was in front of the TV. I believe the 13 year old because he has not a single reason to make that up and lie to the cops.

    The other part I don’t buy is her story about turning on the light and changing the baby’s diaper and seeing no injuries. Again I don’t want to be graphic but I have had the misfortune of seeing the after effects of vaginal and anal rape on a small child and this child’s intestines were protruding from her anus. That coupled with the heavy bleeding that occurs would require someone who is bat shit blind not to see it. The cops must have felt the same way because they showed her pictures of the damage and asked her how she didn’t notice. She gave the usual “it didn’t look like that when I changed her” BS. I strongly suspect thats why her own children were removed from her care even though he was arrested and not getting out out anytime soon.

  • mom of 4

    Oh and here is why I don’t believe his wife had no idea.

    She and the POS told cops they were in bed at 3:30am and didn’t wake up until 5:30 am when the POS claims he saw the brother jumping on the baby. However their 13 year old son told police he got up at 4:18am (he looked at the clock) to go to the bathroom. The baby was not in her bed or her room and mom was still up washing dishes and dad was in front of the TV. I believe the 13 year old because he has not a single reason to make that up and lie to the cops.

    The other part I don’t buy is her story about turning on the light and changing the baby’s diaper and seeing no injuries. Again I don’t want to be graphic but I have had the misfortune of seeing the after effects of vaginal and anal rape on a small child and this child’s intestines were protruding from her anus. That coupled with the heavy bleeding that occurs would require someone who is bat shit blind not to see it. The cops must have felt the same way because they showed her pictures of the damage and asked her how she didn’t notice. She gave the usual “it didn’t look like that when I changed her” BS. I strongly suspect thats why her own children were removed from her care even though he was arrested and not getting out out anytime soon.

  • mom of 4

    Oh and here is why I don’t believe his wife had no idea.

    She and the POS told cops they were in bed at 3:30am and didn’t wake up until 5:30 am when the POS claims he saw the brother jumping on the baby. However their 13 year old son told police he got up at 4:18am (he looked at the clock) to go to the bathroom. The baby was not in her bed or her room and mom was still up washing dishes and dad was in front of the TV. I believe the 13 year old because he has not a single reason to make that up and lie to the cops.

    The other part I don’t buy is her story about turning on the light and changing the baby’s diaper and seeing no injuries. Again I don’t want to be graphic but I have had the misfortune of seeing the after effects of vaginal and anal rape on a small child and this child’s intestines were protruding from her anus. That coupled with the heavy bleeding that occurs would require someone who is bat shit blind not to see it. The cops must have felt the same way because they showed her pictures of the damage and asked her how she didn’t notice. She gave the usual “it didn’t look like that when I changed her” BS. I strongly suspect thats why her own children were removed from her care even though he was arrested and not getting out out anytime soon.

  • http://myspace.com/bjgupton Barbara

    dammit to hell. I feel sick. :(

  • http://myspace.com/bjgupton Barbara

    dammit to hell. I feel sick. :(

  • http://myspace.com/bjgupton Barbara

    dammit to hell. I feel sick. :(

  • http://myspace.com/bjgupton Barbara

    dammit to hell. I feel sick. :(

  • http://myspace.com/bjgupton Barbara

    dammit to hell. I feel sick. :(

  • starryblue00

    I will never understand what is attractive about a child to a grown adult. And the wife had to have known what was going on. Even if she didn’t know for sure, she had to have had an idea about what was going on and should’ve checked up on it. Either way, she’s as guilty as he is and they both deserve everything that comes to them in prison. I agree with Lilbay…it would be worth getting locked up for one night just to be able to spend it with either of them, and make them suffer even partially what that innocent little girl suffered through. You know if that man could do something that violent to his own neice it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like this, either to her or someone else.

  • starryblue00

    I will never understand what is attractive about a child to a grown adult. And the wife had to have known what was going on. Even if she didn’t know for sure, she had to have had an idea about what was going on and should’ve checked up on it. Either way, she’s as guilty as he is and they both deserve everything that comes to them in prison. I agree with Lilbay…it would be worth getting locked up for one night just to be able to spend it with either of them, and make them suffer even partially what that innocent little girl suffered through. You know if that man could do something that violent to his own neice it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like this, either to her or someone else.

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • starryblue00

    I will never understand what is attractive about a child to a grown adult. And the wife had to have known what was going on. Even if she didn’t know for sure, she had to have had an idea about what was going on and should’ve checked up on it. Either way, she’s as guilty as he is and they both deserve everything that comes to them in prison. I agree with Lilbay…it would be worth getting locked up for one night just to be able to spend it with either of them, and make them suffer even partially what that innocent little girl suffered through. You know if that man could do something that violent to his own neice it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like this, either to her or someone else.

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • starryblue00

    I will never understand what is attractive about a child to a grown adult. And the wife had to have known what was going on. Even if she didn’t know for sure, she had to have had an idea about what was going on and should’ve checked up on it. Either way, she’s as guilty as he is and they both deserve everything that comes to them in prison. I agree with Lilbay…it would be worth getting locked up for one night just to be able to spend it with either of them, and make them suffer even partially what that innocent little girl suffered through. You know if that man could do something that violent to his own neice it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like this, either to her or someone else.

  • starryblue00

    I will never understand what is attractive about a child to a grown adult. And the wife had to have known what was going on. Even if she didn’t know for sure, she had to have had an idea about what was going on and should’ve checked up on it. Either way, she’s as guilty as he is and they both deserve everything that comes to them in prison. I agree with Lilbay…it would be worth getting locked up for one night just to be able to spend it with either of them, and make them suffer even partially what that innocent little girl suffered through. You know if that man could do something that violent to his own neice it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like this, either to her or someone else.

  • mammasweets

    Just let me get my tool box together and I’ll pull a Reservoir Dogs on this crusty smegma.

    We’ll see how his ass feels after I’m done with him. Don’t worry I won’t kill him but he will be in chronic pain and shitting himself the rest of his life.

    I’m gonna yack….

  • sarah

    Long time reader and for the first time I feel compelled to comment.
    I am in the UK and it’s almost midnight here. I am going to sit by my 18 month old daughters bed and watch her sleep for a while. I’m not very religious, but whilst I do that, I’ll say a prayer for this poor child. I’ll also think about the other children involved, as we all know that their lives will be forever damaged by this horrific act. Is there the death penalty in the state where this happened? I agree with previous posters in regard to what should happen now to the vile excuse for a human being that did this.

  • sarah

    Long time reader and for the first time I feel compelled to comment.
    I am in the UK and it’s almost midnight here. I am going to sit by my 18 month old daughters bed and watch her sleep for a while. I’m not very religious, but whilst I do that, I’ll say a prayer for this poor child. I’ll also think about the other children involved, as we all know that their lives will be forever damaged by this horrific act. Is there the death penalty in the state where this happened? I agree with previous posters in regard to what should happen now to the vile excuse for a human being that did this.

  • sarah

    Long time reader and for the first time I feel compelled to comment.
    I am in the UK and it’s almost midnight here. I am going to sit by my 18 month old daughters bed and watch her sleep for a while. I’m not very religious, but whilst I do that, I’ll say a prayer for this poor child. I’ll also think about the other children involved, as we all know that their lives will be forever damaged by this horrific act. Is there the death penalty in the state where this happened? I agree with previous posters in regard to what should happen now to the vile excuse for a human being that did this.

  • sarah

    Long time reader and for the first time I feel compelled to comment.
    I am in the UK and it’s almost midnight here. I am going to sit by my 18 month old daughters bed and watch her sleep for a while. I’m not very religious, but whilst I do that, I’ll say a prayer for this poor child. I’ll also think about the other children involved, as we all know that their lives will be forever damaged by this horrific act. Is there the death penalty in the state where this happened? I agree with previous posters in regard to what should happen now to the vile excuse for a human being that did this.

  • sarah

    Long time reader and for the first time I feel compelled to comment.
    I am in the UK and it’s almost midnight here. I am going to sit by my 18 month old daughters bed and watch her sleep for a while. I’m not very religious, but whilst I do that, I’ll say a prayer for this poor child. I’ll also think about the other children involved, as we all know that their lives will be forever damaged by this horrific act. Is there the death penalty in the state where this happened? I agree with previous posters in regard to what should happen now to the vile excuse for a human being that did this.

  • Nyrak

    As I sat here and read this story, while drinking a rum and coke, I nearly threw up. Seriously. I can feel the Morningstar corndogs and alcohol sitting in my throat, wanting to make their exit.

    This is the most horrible thing a “human” (I don’t think he should be classified as a human though) adult could do to a child. A 2 year old baby.

    Seriously, this shit just gets worse and worse.

    Absolutely disgusting. I usually don’t wish death on anyone, but I hope this shithead gets what is coming to him very painfully and slowly. I’m totally for the death penalty, especially in cases like this.

    Makes me sick.

  • Nyrak

    As I sat here and read this story, while drinking a rum and coke, I nearly threw up. Seriously. I can feel the Morningstar corndogs and alcohol sitting in my throat, wanting to make their exit.

    This is the most horrible thing a “human” (I don’t think he should be classified as a human though) adult could do to a child. A 2 year old baby.

    Seriously, this shit just gets worse and worse.

    Absolutely disgusting. I usually don’t wish death on anyone, but I hope this shithead gets what is coming to him very painfully and slowly. I’m totally for the death penalty, especially in cases like this.

    Makes me sick.

  • Nyrak

    As I sat here and read this story, while drinking a rum and coke, I nearly threw up. Seriously. I can feel the Morningstar corndogs and alcohol sitting in my throat, wanting to make their exit.

    This is the most horrible thing a “human” (I don’t think he should be classified as a human though) adult could do to a child. A 2 year old baby.

    Seriously, this shit just gets worse and worse.

    Absolutely disgusting. I usually don’t wish death on anyone, but I hope this shithead gets what is coming to him very painfully and slowly. I’m totally for the death penalty, especially in cases like this.

    Makes me sick.

  • Nyrak

    As I sat here and read this story, while drinking a rum and coke, I nearly threw up. Seriously. I can feel the Morningstar corndogs and alcohol sitting in my throat, wanting to make their exit.

    This is the most horrible thing a “human” (I don’t think he should be classified as a human though) adult could do to a child. A 2 year old baby.

    Seriously, this shit just gets worse and worse.

    Absolutely disgusting. I usually don’t wish death on anyone, but I hope this shithead gets what is coming to him very painfully and slowly. I’m totally for the death penalty, especially in cases like this.

    Makes me sick.

  • Nyrak

    As I sat here and read this story, while drinking a rum and coke, I nearly threw up. Seriously. I can feel the Morningstar corndogs and alcohol sitting in my throat, wanting to make their exit.

    This is the most horrible thing a “human” (I don’t think he should be classified as a human though) adult could do to a child. A 2 year old baby.

    Seriously, this shit just gets worse and worse.

    Absolutely disgusting. I usually don’t wish death on anyone, but I hope this shithead gets what is coming to him very painfully and slowly. I’m totally for the death penalty, especially in cases like this.

    Makes me sick.

  • Nyrak

    As I sat here and read this story, while drinking a rum and coke, I nearly threw up. Seriously. I can feel the Morningstar corndogs and alcohol sitting in my throat, wanting to make their exit.

    This is the most horrible thing a “human” (I don’t think he should be classified as a human though) adult could do to a child. A 2 year old baby.

    Seriously, this shit just gets worse and worse.

    Absolutely disgusting. I usually don’t wish death on anyone, but I hope this shithead gets what is coming to him very painfully and slowly. I’m totally for the death penalty, especially in cases like this.

    Makes me sick.

  • mom of 4

    Thought I would post a couple links for those who don’t read the forum.

    Court Documents (Graphic)
    http://66.231.15.194/ClassLibrary/Page/Information/DataInstances/4523/Files/3528/Fraga_Case_File.pdf

    His brother is defending him with the usual BS excuses.
    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    Also it is noted in the court documents that he takes viagra. I suspect that is so he can get it up for his wife because….well she isn’t a baby and that seem to be what turns him on.

  • mom of 4

    Thought I would post a couple links for those who don’t read the forum.

    Court Documents (Graphic)
    http://66.231.15.194/ClassLibrary/Page/Information/DataInstances/4523/Files/3528/Fraga_Case_File.pdf

    His brother is defending him with the usual BS excuses.
    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    Also it is noted in the court documents that he takes viagra. I suspect that is so he can get it up for his wife because….well she isn’t a baby and that seem to be what turns him on.

  • mom of 4

    Thought I would post a couple links for those who don’t read the forum.

    Court Documents (Graphic)
    http://66.231.15.194/ClassLibrary/Page/Information/DataInstances/4523/Files/3528/Fraga_Case_File.pdf

    His brother is defending him with the usual BS excuses.
    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    Also it is noted in the court documents that he takes viagra. I suspect that is so he can get it up for his wife because….well she isn’t a baby and that seem to be what turns him on.

  • mom of 4

    Thought I would post a couple links for those who don’t read the forum.

    Court Documents (Graphic)
    http://66.231.15.194/ClassLibrary/Page/Information/DataInstances/4523/Files/3528/Fraga_Case_File.pdf

    His brother is defending him with the usual BS excuses.
    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    Also it is noted in the court documents that he takes viagra. I suspect that is so he can get it up for his wife because….well she isn’t a baby and that seem to be what turns him on.

  • mom of 4

    Thought I would post a couple links for those who don’t read the forum.

    Court Documents (Graphic)
    http://66.231.15.194/ClassLibrary/Page/Information/DataInstances/4523/Files/3528/Fraga_Case_File.pdf

    His brother is defending him with the usual BS excuses.
    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    Also it is noted in the court documents that he takes viagra. I suspect that is so he can get it up for his wife because….well she isn’t a baby and that seem to be what turns him on.

  • rumpilstiltskin

    Have you ever seen American History X??? I’m thinking of the shower seen were he gets gangraped by his “friends”. I think we could do better than just 26 stitches in his ass by using a piece of rusty pipe and a mallet, followed by gently stroking his dick with a (what’s something really dull that would hurt alot when it cuts through something?). And by gently stroking i mean vicious sawing action!!!!

  • rumpilstiltskin

    Have you ever seen American History X??? I’m thinking of the shower seen were he gets gangraped by his “friends”. I think we could do better than just 26 stitches in his ass by using a piece of rusty pipe and a mallet, followed by gently stroking his dick with a (what’s something really dull that would hurt alot when it cuts through something?). And by gently stroking i mean vicious sawing action!!!!

  • rumpilstiltskin

    Have you ever seen American History X??? I’m thinking of the shower seen were he gets gangraped by his “friends”. I think we could do better than just 26 stitches in his ass by using a piece of rusty pipe and a mallet, followed by gently stroking his dick with a (what’s something really dull that would hurt alot when it cuts through something?). And by gently stroking i mean vicious sawing action!!!!

  • rumpilstiltskin

    Have you ever seen American History X??? I’m thinking of the shower seen were he gets gangraped by his “friends”. I think we could do better than just 26 stitches in his ass by using a piece of rusty pipe and a mallet, followed by gently stroking his dick with a (what’s something really dull that would hurt alot when it cuts through something?). And by gently stroking i mean vicious sawing action!!!!

  • rumpilstiltskin

    Have you ever seen American History X??? I’m thinking of the shower seen were he gets gangraped by his “friends”. I think we could do better than just 26 stitches in his ass by using a piece of rusty pipe and a mallet, followed by gently stroking his dick with a (what’s something really dull that would hurt alot when it cuts through something?). And by gently stroking i mean vicious sawing action!!!!

  • April

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

  • April

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

  • April

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

  • April

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

  • April

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

  • mom of 4

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

  • mom of 4

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

  • mom of 4

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

  • mom of 4

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

  • mom of 4

    I say we throw all of the baby rapers in a cell together, dose them all with viagra and let them have at it. The one that out-rapes and kills all of the others wins a trip to Hell via a 2×4 to the head.

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

  • April

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

    Too bad it’s not that easy. Oh, to rid the world of the sick fuckers….

  • April

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

    Too bad it’s not that easy. Oh, to rid the world of the sick fuckers….

  • April

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

    Too bad it’s not that easy. Oh, to rid the world of the sick fuckers….

  • April

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

    Too bad it’s not that easy. Oh, to rid the world of the sick fuckers….

  • April

    YEAH!!! I love it, throw all the garbage in the same dump!

    Too bad it’s not that easy. Oh, to rid the world of the sick fuckers….

  • Lisa

    What a sick fucking bastard. Not that it will ever happen with our legal system but please let there be some kind of punishment that makes this piece of trash suffer like he made his niece suffer and then some to the point where he is begging for hell as a relief.

    This poor little girl suffered so much, and she is my prayers. I hope that there is justice for her.

  • Lisa

    What a sick fucking bastard. Not that it will ever happen with our legal system but please let there be some kind of punishment that makes this piece of trash suffer like he made his niece suffer and then some to the point where he is begging for hell as a relief.

    This poor little girl suffered so much, and she is my prayers. I hope that there is justice for her.

  • Lisa

    What a sick fucking bastard. Not that it will ever happen with our legal system but please let there be some kind of punishment that makes this piece of trash suffer like he made his niece suffer and then some to the point where he is begging for hell as a relief.

    This poor little girl suffered so much, and she is my prayers. I hope that there is justice for her.

  • Lisa

    What a sick fucking bastard. Not that it will ever happen with our legal system but please let there be some kind of punishment that makes this piece of trash suffer like he made his niece suffer and then some to the point where he is begging for hell as a relief.

    This poor little girl suffered so much, and she is my prayers. I hope that there is justice for her.

  • WryBread

    How terrible it is that the best we can hope is that he beat the little girl’s brain to bit BEFORE he did the rest of this stuff? What is wrong with this man? Why do we have to breathe the same air as people like this? Couldnt’ there be a superhero or heroine to go around and kill these people as soon as they leave jail after a conviction?

  • WryBread

    How terrible it is that the best we can hope is that he beat the little girl’s brain to bit BEFORE he did the rest of this stuff? What is wrong with this man? Why do we have to breathe the same air as people like this? Couldnt’ there be a superhero or heroine to go around and kill these people as soon as they leave jail after a conviction?

  • WryBread

    How terrible it is that the best we can hope is that he beat the little girl’s brain to bit BEFORE he did the rest of this stuff? What is wrong with this man? Why do we have to breathe the same air as people like this? Couldnt’ there be a superhero or heroine to go around and kill these people as soon as they leave jail after a conviction?

  • WryBread

    How terrible it is that the best we can hope is that he beat the little girl’s brain to bit BEFORE he did the rest of this stuff? What is wrong with this man? Why do we have to breathe the same air as people like this? Couldnt’ there be a superhero or heroine to go around and kill these people as soon as they leave jail after a conviction?

  • Piper

    I hate him. The only thing that I can hope is that she was either unconscious or in shock and not aware of what this monster was doing to her. Shame on him and his wife! What a fucking selfish piece of shit. What could even be close to sexually appealing about a little baby? I’ve gotta go check on my babies and give them a kiss!

    And as for prison- I hope word spreads among the inmates about what he did. Even prisoners have a code of ethics and this guy is going to be on their shit-list.

  • Piper

    I hate him. The only thing that I can hope is that she was either unconscious or in shock and not aware of what this monster was doing to her. Shame on him and his wife! What a fucking selfish piece of shit. What could even be close to sexually appealing about a little baby? I’ve gotta go check on my babies and give them a kiss!

    And as for prison- I hope word spreads among the inmates about what he did. Even prisoners have a code of ethics and this guy is going to be on their shit-list.

  • silvahalo68

    After opening my eyes to the sickening truth, the vile, the heinous acts people can commit to innocent babies, I prayed for justice for an act of God or Satan to crucify this bastard. I believe my prayers will be answered. There is a special place in hell for you Josue Fraga. It is waiting for you…I swear.

    Rest in peace Samantha.

  • silvahalo68

    After opening my eyes to the sickening truth, the vile, the heinous acts people can commit to innocent babies, I prayed for justice for an act of God or Satan to crucify this bastard. I believe my prayers will be answered. There is a special place in hell for you Josue Fraga. It is waiting for you…I swear.

    Rest in peace Samantha.

  • VictorY Fast

    Is there a way to post where this P.O.S. is doing his time?.. just so we can get the word out to all his new cellmates.. (maybe they can make him feel all warm and fuzzy inside)

  • VictorY Fast

    Is there a way to post where this P.O.S. is doing his time?.. just so we can get the word out to all his new cellmates.. (maybe they can make him feel all warm and fuzzy inside)

  • funnymommy

    I need a good, wooden bat, preferably old and a little splintery. It doesn’t matter if it breaks since I don’t intend to beat him with it.

  • funnymommy

    I need a good, wooden bat, preferably old and a little splintery. It doesn’t matter if it breaks since I don’t intend to beat him with it.

  • thepooh5

    Welcome Starryblue00 and Sarah. :)

  • thepooh5

    Welcome Starryblue00 and Sarah. :)

  • solange822001

    Thanks for clearing that up Mom of 4, I don’t know why I didn’t realize what that meant. What a sick evil fucker. Burn in hell Fraga!

  • solange822001

    Thanks for clearing that up Mom of 4, I don’t know why I didn’t realize what that meant. What a sick evil fucker. Burn in hell Fraga!

  • KAEB

    This is actually the story that got me onto DD…the original posting on here I found when searching about this very story.

    Worthington is my hometown, born and raised. I read about this in the papers, the trailer this happened at is across from the house my daughters paternal grandmother used to live in. I know vaguely of this guy. This story makes me so sick to my stomach and brings tears to my eyes. That poor little girl…her last moments must have been horrifying. I can’t even think about it and I am 27 years old. She was only TWO and she had to live through that, and die in the end. POOR BABY oh little girl I wish you hadn’t gone through that….How could anyone put a baby throught that? Especially his own niece.

    When I first heard about it, I hugged my 4 little ones as tight as I could.

    His family, of course, has come to his defense in the forums on the hometown newspaper — saying oh no he would never do this, etc. etc. They make me even sicker, cause this little girl was their family also — who is standing up for HER now. I don’t know the whole story behind it, but I know every person in my hometown is horrified by this.

  • KAEB

    This is actually the story that got me onto DD…the original posting on here I found when searching about this very story.

    Worthington is my hometown, born and raised. I read about this in the papers, the trailer this happened at is across from the house my daughters paternal grandmother used to live in. I know vaguely of this guy. This story makes me so sick to my stomach and brings tears to my eyes. That poor little girl…her last moments must have been horrifying. I can’t even think about it and I am 27 years old. She was only TWO and she had to live through that, and die in the end. POOR BABY oh little girl I wish you hadn’t gone through that….How could anyone put a baby throught that? Especially his own niece.

    When I first heard about it, I hugged my 4 little ones as tight as I could.

    His family, of course, has come to his defense in the forums on the hometown newspaper — saying oh no he would never do this, etc. etc. They make me even sicker, cause this little girl was their family also — who is standing up for HER now. I don’t know the whole story behind it, but I know every person in my hometown is horrified by this.

  • michelle

    His family, of course, has come to his defense in the forums on the hometown newspaper — saying oh no he would never do this, etc. etc. They make me even sicker, cause this little girl was their family also — who is standing up for HER now. I don’t know the whole story behind it, but I know every person in my hometown is horrified by this.

    Welcome K.
    Thats a good question to ask them. Are they doing anything then to find out what “REALLY” happened to this baby? No, didn’t think so.
    Must have been that fictional Chupacabra broke into the trailer and raped the 2 year old. Better yet a leprechaun.
    Fucking assholes.

  • michelle

    His family, of course, has come to his defense in the forums on the hometown newspaper — saying oh no he would never do this, etc. etc. They make me even sicker, cause this little girl was their family also — who is standing up for HER now. I don’t know the whole story behind it, but I know every person in my hometown is horrified by this.

    Welcome K.
    Thats a good question to ask them. Are they doing anything then to find out what “REALLY” happened to this baby? No, didn’t think so.
    Must have been that fictional Chupacabra broke into the trailer and raped the 2 year old. Better yet a leprechaun.
    Fucking assholes.

  • Miss. Hill

    I can’t even think about it and I am 27 years old. She was only TWO and she had to live through that, and die in the end. POOR BABY oh little girl I wish you hadn’t gone through that….How could anyone put a baby throught that? Especially his own niece.

    I know Samantha has been haunting me since I read this story, my heart breaks for her.

    His family, of course, has come to his defense in the forums on the hometown newspaper — saying oh no he would never do this, etc. etc. They make me even sicker, cause this little girl was their family also — who is standing up for HER now. I don’t know the whole story behind it, but I know every person in my hometown is horrified by this.

    I can not believe these people, if one of my family members did this I would absolutely not stand behind them. This is ridiculous a little girl is dead, she was brutally raped, she was 2 years old, this is fucking mind boggling! I do not understand!

  • Miss. Hill

    I can’t even think about it and I am 27 years old. She was only TWO and she had to live through that, and die in the end. POOR BABY oh little girl I wish you hadn’t gone through that….How could anyone put a baby throught that? Especially his own niece.

    I know Samantha has been haunting me since I read this story, my heart breaks for her.

    His family, of course, has come to his defense in the forums on the hometown newspaper — saying oh no he would never do this, etc. etc. They make me even sicker, cause this little girl was their family also — who is standing up for HER now. I don’t know the whole story behind it, but I know every person in my hometown is horrified by this.

    I can not believe these people, if one of my family members did this I would absolutely not stand behind them. This is ridiculous a little girl is dead, she was brutally raped, she was 2 years old, this is fucking mind boggling! I do not understand!

  • nwaoutrage

    If you dont stop people like Cesar Monarrez of Springdale Arkansas..this is your outcome. Poor precious little angel. My hopes and prayers are that she is in a better place and someone cares for her, loves her, and hugs and kisses her everyday the way all children should be loved. This is digusting and i wouldnt piss on the people that this webiste warns us about, even if they were on fire. When will we have a world that is fit for children again??? What the fuck is wrong with people?

  • nwaoutrage

    If you dont stop people like Cesar Monarrez of Springdale Arkansas..this is your outcome. Poor precious little angel. My hopes and prayers are that she is in a better place and someone cares for her, loves her, and hugs and kisses her everyday the way all children should be loved. This is digusting and i wouldnt piss on the people that this webiste warns us about, even if they were on fire. When will we have a world that is fit for children again??? What the fuck is wrong with people?

  • KAEB

    Also one last thing….Samantha’s mother died not too long ago — that’s why her father had to give up custody of the children to their uncle. He couldn’t take care of them so he entrusted them to family members he thought would take care of them and love them and now his little girl is gone, at least hopefully she is with her mother somewhere.

  • KAEB

    Also one last thing….Samantha’s mother died not too long ago — that’s why her father had to give up custody of the children to their uncle. He couldn’t take care of them so he entrusted them to family members he thought would take care of them and love them and now his little girl is gone, at least hopefully she is with her mother somewhere.

  • Harley_Tech

    *reaches back ino the closet and drags out the old* Baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire….use it like a pipe cleaner on this sick fuck!

    Then let my 220# ass jump up and down on his guts till he pops like an old plum.

    then I’d get mad…

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    *reaches back ino the closet and drags out the old* Baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire….use it like a pipe cleaner on this sick fuck!

    Then let my 220# ass jump up and down on his guts till he pops like an old plum.

    then I’d get mad…

    R

  • michelle

    then I’d get mad…

    I love a big strong guy Harley, you rock baby. *smack*

  • michelle

    then I’d get mad…

    I love a big strong guy Harley, you rock baby. *smack*

  • mg2

    you dont just wake up one night and decide to rape a 2 year old child. There has to be more to this story, there were so many other children in the house, he had to have done something to one of them as well.
    Poor little girl and her poor father. He trusted family with his children and this is what happens.

  • mg2

    you dont just wake up one night and decide to rape a 2 year old child. There has to be more to this story, there were so many other children in the house, he had to have done something to one of them as well.
    Poor little girl and her poor father. He trusted family with his children and this is what happens.

  • WryBread

    This is just so horrible. I keep thinking about this story. What must he have done before? I agree, MG2, this is just the horror that he did not get away with.

  • WryBread

    This is just so horrible. I keep thinking about this story. What must he have done before? I agree, MG2, this is just the horror that he did not get away with.

  • http://nin.com/ Event Horizon

    I got a an idle blow torch. I got an idle 9 inch angle grinder, with A LOT of discs.
    Please, tell me where he is.
    I want to “blow the cobwebs” out of these wonderful power tools with Josue.
    Think of it as tool time, but with me. Wearing a biohazard suit, with a very, very vengeful grin.

    -”Where are you superman?”

    May Samantha’s tormented soul find loving comfort in Denise Stephens arms in the after life.

  • http://nin.com Event Horizon

    I got a an idle blow torch. I got an idle 9 inch angle grinder, with A LOT of discs.
    Please, tell me where he is.
    I want to “blow the cobwebs” out of these wonderful power tools with Josue.
    Think of it as tool time, but with me. Wearing a biohazard suit, with a very, very vengeful grin.

    -”Where are you superman?”

    May Samantha’s tormented soul find loving comfort in Denise Stephens arms in the after life.

  • KAEB

    “Author: VictorY Fast
    Comment:
    Is there a way to post where this P.O.S. is doing his time?.. just so we can get the word out to all his new cellmates.. (maybe they can make him feel all warm and fuzzy inside)”

    He is at Nobles County Jail right now until he is sent to the prison then it will be Stillwater I think.

  • KAEB

    “Author: VictorY Fast
    Comment:
    Is there a way to post where this P.O.S. is doing his time?.. just so we can get the word out to all his new cellmates.. (maybe they can make him feel all warm and fuzzy inside)”

    He is at Nobles County Jail right now until he is sent to the prison then it will be Stillwater I think.

  • thepooh5

    He is at Nobles County Jail right now until he is sent to the prison then it will be Stillwater I think.

    Thanks for the VALUABLE information KAEB. :)

  • thepooh5

    He is at Nobles County Jail right now until he is sent to the prison then it will be Stillwater I think.

    Thanks for the VALUABLE information KAEB. :)

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for posting that info, Momof4. From it, I learned that the aunt (who I had thought was the mom) is indeed a shithead–because she ALSO claimed to have seen the 3 year old jumping on the girl’s stomach. She claimed this to the ER personnel. Her story changed when she talked to the detective. The bitch. It’s so sad that this girl was them because she had been removed from her parents’ home. Out of the frying pan, into the fire. Time of death occurred before 2:30…and the the babyraper was the only one home…it disgusts me that he was sitting on his babyraping ass watching TV at 4:18.

    Something that disturbs me, moreover, is the fact that 8 people were living in this 2-bedroom trailer. There is no way the other children didn’t hear this rape and murder happening, is there? That baby would have been screaming, I would think, unless she was indeed unconscious for all of it, which is the best that can be hoped–both for the child herself and for the other children. Jesus, what a sick case.

  • sugarglider

    Thanks for posting that info, Momof4. From it, I learned that the aunt (who I had thought was the mom) is indeed a shithead–because she ALSO claimed to have seen the 3 year old jumping on the girl’s stomach. She claimed this to the ER personnel. Her story changed when she talked to the detective. The bitch. It’s so sad that this girl was them because she had been removed from her parents’ home. Out of the frying pan, into the fire. Time of death occurred before 2:30…and the the babyraper was the only one home…it disgusts me that he was sitting on his babyraping ass watching TV at 4:18.

    Something that disturbs me, moreover, is the fact that 8 people were living in this 2-bedroom trailer. There is no way the other children didn’t hear this rape and murder happening, is there? That baby would have been screaming, I would think, unless she was indeed unconscious for all of it, which is the best that can be hoped–both for the child herself and for the other children. Jesus, what a sick case.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    I think he basically told us when he raped/killed her. He said she got up for some water around 11 pm. My guess is that’s when the horrors began.
    What confuses me is… the other child got up at 4:18 or so and said Samantha wasn’t in her bed…. but Josuck and his bitch wife were doing “domestic” things in the other room. Where was Samantha’s body?? Mobile homes aren’t THAT damn big! Not too many places to hide it!
    Mommacita knows a lot more than she’s saying. There had to be blood wherever this took place. Samantha’s body had to be moved. Samantha had to look like she’d been hit by a bus… repeatedly. Her “insides” had to be leaking “outside.” Josuck had “SHIT” on his pants… bitch didn’t notice? Does this fucker always smell like shit?
    She’s a lyin’ skank if she denies any knowledge. She’s at least an accomplice after the fact!

    RIP baby girl. No more pain.

  • Zibarro

    I think he basically told us when he raped/killed her. He said she got up for some water around 11 pm. My guess is that’s when the horrors began.
    What confuses me is… the other child got up at 4:18 or so and said Samantha wasn’t in her bed…. but Josuck and his bitch wife were doing “domestic” things in the other room. Where was Samantha’s body?? Mobile homes aren’t THAT damn big! Not too many places to hide it!
    Mommacita knows a lot more than she’s saying. There had to be blood wherever this took place. Samantha’s body had to be moved. Samantha had to look like she’d been hit by a bus… repeatedly. Her “insides” had to be leaking “outside.” Josuck had “SHIT” on his pants… bitch didn’t notice? Does this fucker always smell like shit?
    She’s a lyin’ skank if she denies any knowledge. She’s at least an accomplice after the fact!

    RIP baby girl. No more pain.

  • Just my luck sucks
  • Just my luck sucks
  • Jory

    I first heard of this case today and have read most of the accounts of the crime. If found guilty… Josue Fraga is truly a sick individual.

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    I hope I never see you in church, a voting booth… or on a jury.

  • Jory

    I first heard of this case today and have read most of the accounts of the crime. If found guilty… Josue Fraga is truly a sick individual.

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    I hope I never see you in church, a voting booth… or on a jury.

  • Castille

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    Aww, come on, you haven’t even heard some of them advocate having similar sorts of justice perpetrated on children yet! :D

  • Castille

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    Aww, come on, you haven’t even heard some of them advocate having similar sorts of justice perpetrated on children yet! :D

  • Lizard

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    You’re joking, right? You truly expect to read about a man raping a baby to death and then discover that everyone commenting will be able to just say, “Poor child!” and then dispassionately call for the infallible and invariably just criminal justice system to mete out an appropriate punishment? You’re extremely naive if you believe that expressing outrage and horror in the comments section of a blog means that Demon members are outlaw vigilantes out to circumvent the workings of the aforementioned CJ system. Frankly, if you are claiming that you can read this story and not want to see this guy’s dick slammed in a door over and over (or some such), I think you’re psychologically and emotionally stunted, which is pretty damn dangerous in its own way.

  • Lizard

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    You’re joking, right? You truly expect to read about a man raping a baby to death and then discover that everyone commenting will be able to just say, “Poor child!” and then dispassionately call for the infallible and invariably just criminal justice system to mete out an appropriate punishment? You’re extremely naive if you believe that expressing outrage and horror in the comments section of a blog means that Demon members are outlaw vigilantes out to circumvent the workings of the aforementioned CJ system. Frankly, if you are claiming that you can read this story and not want to see this guy’s dick slammed in a door over and over (or some such), I think you’re psychologically and emotionally stunted, which is pretty damn dangerous in its own way.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    It’s called “Venting” – you should try it sometime. It’s what helps keep “normal” people like US sane after reading such horrific stories. I highly doubt any of the Demonites would actually follow through with these things — but it helps ease some of the pain, anger and frustration felt by all of us when we read about what one human can do to another human — especially a grown mad to a 2 yr. old child.
    I find people who DON’T get upset about these things to be way more frightening than those that DO.

    I hope I never see you in church, a voting booth… or on a jury.

    I’d say 50/50 on church, seeing as many Demonites have decided that either there CAN’T be a “God” with all the horrible shit that goes on — or– if there is a “God”, and He allows this shit to go on — they’d rather not have anything to do with Him.
    Voting booth? Why? You think we’d choose a leader that is less than upstanding – even after reading what so many have to say about criminals? Huh?
    Jury — Last I checked … if you were familiar with a case and had already formed an opinion — you aren’t welcome anyway.

    We don’t always condemn — but usually. And the most vehement statements and opinions are reserved for people like Josue — who do something so brutal, so heinous, so vile and so inhuman — we can only wish the same be done to them.

    As we like to say here at the DD — if you don’t like it — stop reading. K?

  • Zibarro

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    It’s called “Venting” – you should try it sometime. It’s what helps keep “normal” people like US sane after reading such horrific stories. I highly doubt any of the Demonites would actually follow through with these things — but it helps ease some of the pain, anger and frustration felt by all of us when we read about what one human can do to another human — especially a grown mad to a 2 yr. old child.
    I find people who DON’T get upset about these things to be way more frightening than those that DO.

    I hope I never see you in church, a voting booth… or on a jury.

    I’d say 50/50 on church, seeing as many Demonites have decided that either there CAN’T be a “God” with all the horrible shit that goes on — or– if there is a “God”, and He allows this shit to go on — they’d rather not have anything to do with Him.
    Voting booth? Why? You think we’d choose a leader that is less than upstanding – even after reading what so many have to say about criminals? Huh?
    Jury — Last I checked … if you were familiar with a case and had already formed an opinion — you aren’t welcome anyway.

    We don’t always condemn — but usually. And the most vehement statements and opinions are reserved for people like Josue — who do something so brutal, so heinous, so vile and so inhuman — we can only wish the same be done to them.

    As we like to say here at the DD — if you don’t like it — stop reading. K?

  • lilgoldnangel

    That poor baby! R. I. P. Little Angel!

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    I would rather there be more people in the world like the ones on this site who are against POS like Josue, than Bible-thumping, nose-in-the air, hypocrites who pretend the politicians in this country are doing enough to protect the children! If it happened to any child you knew, I bet you would certainly have more to say about it than, “He is a very bad, bad boy!”

  • lilgoldnangel

    That poor baby! R. I. P. Little Angel!

    However, I am equally distressed by the amount of people posting here who are promoting rape, torture and murder of Josue Fraga with ropes, guns, chains, pipe cleaners??? and foriegn objects. This is not the Old West. You people are psychologically just as dangerous as the accused.

    I would rather there be more people in the world like the ones on this site who are against POS like Josue, than Bible-thumping, nose-in-the air, hypocrites who pretend the politicians in this country are doing enough to protect the children! If it happened to any child you knew, I bet you would certainly have more to say about it than, “He is a very bad, bad boy!”

  • Jory

    Zibarro: Venting? Venting what? Your true self? For you and the rest of the Nancy Grace fans, please wait for a conviction instead of imposing your own verdict.

    I will not comment on people’s religious beliefs.

    Would you choose a leader who is not upstanding? Y’all ready have!

    I might not be allowed on Fraga’s jury because of what I’ve read, but Fraga’s is not the only trial pending in our future.

    As someone who has taken part in several Minnesota juries, I must say I am proud of and impressed by our criminal justice system. We took every painful step necessary in finding our verdict. Our system is based on one simple idea. It is better to set a guilty man free than to convict an innocent man.

    Now, I am not saying Josue Fraga even appears to be innocent, but I will be an AMERICAN and patiently wait for a verdict. There are larger principles at stake here than vengence on one particular bad guy. Our whole CJ system is at stake when vigilantes take over.

    To Lizard, it is not me who is naive. I do feel outrage. But, I don’t log onto sites just looking for something to turn my gut. I came here looking to do a favor for relatives of Samantha. I was floored by the kind of hate I found in the hearts of the posters here.

    lilgoldnangel: what is more hypocitical than someone who pretends to abhor violence, rape and murder and then recommends it for others?

    To the rest of ya: Yes, I have had friends who were victims of violence and even murder. I admit that for some time, I fantasized about the death penalty returning to Minnesota… then, logic took over. We know no level of civil unrest will undo the the violence she suffered. Our best bet might be to try to understand what leads “human beings” to behave this way in an attempt to prevent it in the future.

    When posters here are vengefully looking for the accused, and other posters publicly state where he is being jailed… and some kind of vigilante “justice” were to be exacted upon Josue Fraga… would it be the least bit probable that this blog line would be investigated as a conspiracy to commit murder?

  • Jory

    Zibarro: Venting? Venting what? Your true self? For you and the rest of the Nancy Grace fans, please wait for a conviction instead of imposing your own verdict.

    I will not comment on people’s religious beliefs.

    Would you choose a leader who is not upstanding? Y’all ready have!

    I might not be allowed on Fraga’s jury because of what I’ve read, but Fraga’s is not the only trial pending in our future.

    As someone who has taken part in several Minnesota juries, I must say I am proud of and impressed by our criminal justice system. We took every painful step necessary in finding our verdict. Our system is based on one simple idea. It is better to set a guilty man free than to convict an innocent man.

    Now, I am not saying Josue Fraga even appears to be innocent, but I will be an AMERICAN and patiently wait for a verdict. There are larger principles at stake here than vengence on one particular bad guy. Our whole CJ system is at stake when vigilantes take over.

    To Lizard, it is not me who is naive. I do feel outrage. But, I don’t log onto sites just looking for something to turn my gut. I came here looking to do a favor for relatives of Samantha. I was floored by the kind of hate I found in the hearts of the posters here.

    lilgoldnangel: what is more hypocitical than someone who pretends to abhor violence, rape and murder and then recommends it for others?

    To the rest of ya: Yes, I have had friends who were victims of violence and even murder. I admit that for some time, I fantasized about the death penalty returning to Minnesota… then, logic took over. We know no level of civil unrest will undo the the violence she suffered. Our best bet might be to try to understand what leads “human beings” to behave this way in an attempt to prevent it in the future.

    When posters here are vengefully looking for the accused, and other posters publicly state where he is being jailed… and some kind of vigilante “justice” were to be exacted upon Josue Fraga… would it be the least bit probable that this blog line would be investigated as a conspiracy to commit murder?

  • Castille

    It sounds like you wouldn’t be on Fraga’s jury because you’re connected to him. Relatives of Samantha, huh? Fraga was a relative of Samantha. And you sound a heckuva lot more concerned with him then with the nightmare that was unleashed on Samantha in the final minutes of her unfairly short life.

    I might think people go overboard a bit here and there in their justifiable outrage, but I haven’t any time for a baby raping and killing supporter.

  • Castille

    It sounds like you wouldn’t be on Fraga’s jury because you’re connected to him. Relatives of Samantha, huh? Fraga was a relative of Samantha. And you sound a heckuva lot more concerned with him then with the nightmare that was unleashed on Samantha in the final minutes of her unfairly short life.

    I might think people go overboard a bit here and there in their justifiable outrage, but I haven’t any time for a baby raping and killing supporter.

  • lilgoldnangel

    lilgoldnangel: what is more hypocitical than someone who pretends to abhor violence, rape and murder and then recommends it for others?

    I believe in an eye for an eye, and then some, especially sick, murdering, pedophiles like Fraga. It sickens me to know that people like him do exist in this world, along with others who don’t stop or prevent them from hurting the ones they are suppose to be protecting!

    He took the last moments of that poor baby’s life in such a horrifying and gut-wrenching way, there can be no one in their right mind who would not be outraged and even wish for him to know what she had to of went through!

    It seems like it’s always the pain of what the victim went through that is forgotten when it comes to those who support the accused. Not saying that you’re supporting him, but, yes, some people do detest baby rapers and murderers so much that they wish the same on them! Sometimes worse!

  • lilgoldnangel

    lilgoldnangel: what is more hypocitical than someone who pretends to abhor violence, rape and murder and then recommends it for others?

    I believe in an eye for an eye, and then some, especially sick, murdering, pedophiles like Fraga. It sickens me to know that people like him do exist in this world, along with others who don’t stop or prevent them from hurting the ones they are suppose to be protecting!

    He took the last moments of that poor baby’s life in such a horrifying and gut-wrenching way, there can be no one in their right mind who would not be outraged and even wish for him to know what she had to of went through!

    It seems like it’s always the pain of what the victim went through that is forgotten when it comes to those who support the accused. Not saying that you’re supporting him, but, yes, some people do detest baby rapers and murderers so much that they wish the same on them! Sometimes worse!

  • Castille

    It seems like it’s always the pain of what the victim went through that is forgotten when it comes to those who support the accused. Not saying that you’re supporting him, but, yes, some people do detest baby rapers and murderers so much that they wish the same on them! Sometimes worse!

    Oh, make no mistake, he is. He’s trying to do it subtly and obliquely, but that’s precisely what he is about here, his last post has made clear. And it’s us – those outraged to insanity by the heinousness of this crime that are the demented ones. Yeah. Go hug your murdering baby raper, Jory.

  • Castille

    It seems like it’s always the pain of what the victim went through that is forgotten when it comes to those who support the accused. Not saying that you’re supporting him, but, yes, some people do detest baby rapers and murderers so much that they wish the same on them! Sometimes worse!

    Oh, make no mistake, he is. He’s trying to do it subtly and obliquely, but that’s precisely what he is about here, his last post has made clear. And it’s us – those outraged to insanity by the heinousness of this crime that are the demented ones. Yeah. Go hug your murdering baby raper, Jory.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    to jory:

    Ooh Lawd…. Whatever, you dick licker…. This SCUM SUCKER needs his asshole ripped straight up to his fuckin pie hole. You wait for your justice. Justice won’t be served until this dickheads asshole is the size of minne(fuckin)sota and is shitting out pieces of his stomach into a colostomy bag. And you are damn right I am venting and it is my mother fuckin given right to do so, so go suck a cock u douche bag.

    As for the worthless cum dumpster, I can only hope the girls introduce her to a broom handle…. intimately….. I’d also love to see her know first hand what a prolapsed rectum is.

    May someone be changing these fuckers diapers until the end of time.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    to jory:

    Ooh Lawd…. Whatever, you dick licker…. This SCUM SUCKER needs his asshole ripped straight up to his fuckin pie hole. You wait for your justice. Justice won’t be served until this dickheads asshole is the size of minne(fuckin)sota and is shitting out pieces of his stomach into a colostomy bag. And you are damn right I am venting and it is my mother fuckin given right to do so, so go suck a cock u douche bag.

    As for the worthless cum dumpster, I can only hope the girls introduce her to a broom handle…. intimately….. I’d also love to see her know first hand what a prolapsed rectum is.

    May someone be changing these fuckers diapers until the end of time.

  • penelopejo

    You know what’s so sad about this story, is the fact the evidence is everywhere on her body and she was only 2 years old. What’s even sadder, is the fact that the prick plead not guilty and the jury is going to have to see the mutilated body of little Samantha.

    And Jory, I don’t care if you attack me next for condemning the man, but really, can you blame me? A little girl’s life was lost at the hands of her uncle. And you’re telling us we should wait for the justice system to go through with everything. Fuck that. I’m going to shame him for what he’s done to her, I’m going to say I hope he’s been getting buttfucked since the day he’s been in custody. I hope he dies the way Samantha did, with her insides bleeding inside of her stomach. I hope they don’t get medical attention for him when this happens and just lets him die, on the floor, of his jail cell, just the way Samantha did in the restroom of that trailer.

  • penelopejo

    You know what’s so sad about this story, is the fact the evidence is everywhere on her body and she was only 2 years old. What’s even sadder, is the fact that the prick plead not guilty and the jury is going to have to see the mutilated body of little Samantha.

    And Jory, I don’t care if you attack me next for condemning the man, but really, can you blame me? A little girl’s life was lost at the hands of her uncle. And you’re telling us we should wait for the justice system to go through with everything. Fuck that. I’m going to shame him for what he’s done to her, I’m going to say I hope he’s been getting buttfucked since the day he’s been in custody. I hope he dies the way Samantha did, with her insides bleeding inside of her stomach. I hope they don’t get medical attention for him when this happens and just lets him die, on the floor, of his jail cell, just the way Samantha did in the restroom of that trailer.

  • Anonymous

    [...] Our best bet might be to try to understand what leads “human beings” to behave this way in an attempt to prevent it in the future.

    Psychopathy.

    Not all psychopaths are baby-rapers but all baby-rapers are psychopaths. They have a low boredom threshold, a high excitement threshold, no empathy, and no conscience. These four characteristics lead to them fucking people over for a chuckle.

    There is no cure for it any more than there is a cure for a preference for tea over coffee. It is a part of the individual’s personality. Some psychologists claim they can teach the psychopath to have some feeling for other people; neither being a doctor of any type nor playing one on prime-time TV I do not have the chops to evaluate the validity of these claims. As a result I am somewhat dubious of them.

    One could lock psychopaths away at 18, but this would be the moral equivalent of jailing people that would rather drink their carbonated beverage of choice from a glass bottle rather than an aluminum can. This would also result in locking away people who could run a business, lead troops, propel a sports team to victory, or act as no other simply because they don’t give a good Goddamn about anybody but themselves — even if they realize that they need to take care of the people subordinate to them to get where they want to be. There’s also that whole “due process” thing in the Constitution; i.e., one cannot simply lock somebody away because they might do something; it must be manifest. It is, after all, a criminal justice system, not a might-be-a-criminal justice system.

    I do not know how to prevent a psychopath from claiming his first victim, but I damn sure know how to stop him claiming his second. Lock him — or her — away for life. If the psychopath has caused a death then a swift execution is the only answer. The longer the psychopath is left alive the more opportunities he or she will have to play his or her blood porn across the theater of his or her mind.

    –Al

  • AlwaysInFlyoverCountry

    [...] Our best bet might be to try to understand what leads “human beings” to behave this way in an attempt to prevent it in the future.

    Psychopathy.

    Not all psychopaths are baby-rapers but all baby-rapers are psychopaths. They have a low boredom threshold, a high excitement threshold, no empathy, and no conscience. These four characteristics lead to them fucking people over for a chuckle.

    There is no cure for it any more than there is a cure for a preference for tea over coffee. It is a part of the individual’s personality. Some psychologists claim they can teach the psychopath to have some feeling for other people; neither being a doctor of any type nor playing one on prime-time TV I do not have the chops to evaluate the validity of these claims. As a result I am somewhat dubious of them.

    One could lock psychopaths away at 18, but this would be the moral equivalent of jailing people that would rather drink their carbonated beverage of choice from a glass bottle rather than an aluminum can. This would also result in locking away people who could run a business, lead troops, propel a sports team to victory, or act as no other simply because they don’t give a good Goddamn about anybody but themselves — even if they realize that they need to take care of the people subordinate to them to get where they want to be. There’s also that whole “due process” thing in the Constitution; i.e., one cannot simply lock somebody away because they might do something; it must be manifest. It is, after all, a criminal justice system, not a might-be-a-criminal justice system.

    I do not know how to prevent a psychopath from claiming his first victim, but I damn sure know how to stop him claiming his second. Lock him — or her — away for life. If the psychopath has caused a death then a swift execution is the only answer. The longer the psychopath is left alive the more opportunities he or she will have to play his or her blood porn across the theater of his or her mind.

    –Al

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Does anyone else have “stories” on here that you just can’t seem to shake? And that REALLY BOTHER YOU? This is one of mine!!! Along with Aiden Waller, and the case of Taylor Placker and Skyla Whitaker, the little girls murdered on the side of the road in Oklahoma. So, I am sorry if my words offended anyone, but I myself am offended.

    BTW JORY, THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, YOU REPULSE ME.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Does anyone else have “stories” on here that you just can’t seem to shake? And that REALLY BOTHER YOU? This is one of mine!!! Along with Aiden Waller, and the case of Taylor Placker and Skyla Whitaker, the little girls murdered on the side of the road in Oklahoma. So, I am sorry if my words offended anyone, but I myself am offended.

    BTW JORY, THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, YOU REPULSE ME.

  • auddie

    Awesome post alwaysinflyovercountry!

  • auddie

    Awesome post alwaysinflyovercountry!

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone else have “stories” on here that you just can’t seem to shake?

    I found myself having to step away from true crime for a spell. I was looking askance at the mailman — and don’t get me started on the meter reader. No telling what that rascal was up to.

    In point of fact I know exactly what he was up to. He was reading my electric meter. But the immersion in true crime was affecting my head space so I had to back away and get my shit in one sock. I haven’t been back long enough yet to be blackjacked by any of them, but “Dennis PeeWee Creamer Killed Haleigh” had me registering my nic with tears in my eyes then wondering what I could say that hadn’t already been said many times over by the other commenters.

    (And may the angels sing you to rest, baby girl.)

    I guess that one is the one for me because I am weeping again.

    –Al

  • AlwaysInFlyoverCountry

    Does anyone else have “stories” on here that you just can’t seem to shake?

    I found myself having to step away from true crime for a spell. I was looking askance at the mailman — and don’t get me started on the meter reader. No telling what that rascal was up to.

    In point of fact I know exactly what he was up to. He was reading my electric meter. But the immersion in true crime was affecting my head space so I had to back away and get my shit in one sock. I haven’t been back long enough yet to be blackjacked by any of them, but “Dennis PeeWee Creamer Killed Haleigh” had me registering my nic with tears in my eyes then wondering what I could say that hadn’t already been said many times over by the other commenters.

    (And may the angels sing you to rest, baby girl.)

    I guess that one is the one for me because I am weeping again.

    –Al

  • Anonymous

    Awesome post alwaysinflyovercountry!

    Thank you, Auddie. Please call me Al; lots less typing.

    –Al

  • AlwaysInFlyoverCountry

    Awesome post alwaysinflyovercountry!

    Thank you, Auddie. Please call me Al; lots less typing.

    –Al

  • DarkPrincess

    This has to be one of the sickest, most disgusting, fucking infuriating cases I have ever read. If there is a Hell, this man will surely go there. He’s not sorry and he never will be, because he’s pure evil. Plain and simple. His wife had to have known something. From the horrible details that I have read here, there’s no way she couldn’t have known. I hope the guilt eats her alive.

  • DarkPrincess

    This has to be one of the sickest, most disgusting, fucking infuriating cases I have ever read. If there is a Hell, this man will surely go there. He’s not sorry and he never will be, because he’s pure evil. Plain and simple. His wife had to have known something. From the horrible details that I have read here, there’s no way she couldn’t have known. I hope the guilt eats her alive.

  • Jory

    No, I am not related to the accused, or to Samantha, or to anyone else involved in this crime. I am only connected through my business, which lead me to look for her obituary. That is how I ran across this site.

    Castille: I am not “supporting the accused” in any way. (Odds are, he is absolutely guilty.) I am only supporting a CJ system that needs to do its work. There is much to learn from a trial… such as the culpability of others who may be involved. Is the wife involved? Are there others who have not yet been identified? What did the kids know? What did the meighbors know? What lead to this crime? Is there a pathology that needs to be examined they may benefit us in the future?

    Castille says: “Oh, make no mistake, he is. He’s trying to do it subtly and obliquely, but that’s precisely what he is about here, his last post has made clear. And it’s us – those outraged to insanity by the heinousness of this crime that are the demented ones. Yeah. Go hug your murdering baby raper.”

    This comment is absolutely absurd, Castille, you know nothing about me. But, read on, you might learn something.

    Uvgottabkiddin: Who the hell are you to be calling me names. I am not the perpetrator here. So much for a civil conversation with this one!

    penelopejo: so, you’re saying then, that rape is a good thing!

    AlwaysInFlyoverCountry: I am in no position to know whether there is a cure or not. But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    It is comments like this that got me to post here:

    I got a an idle blow torch. I got an idle 9 inch angle grinder, with A LOT of discs.Please, tell me where he is.I want to “blow the cobwebs” out of these wonderful power tools with Josue.Think of it as tool time, but with me. Wearing a biohazard suit, with a very, very vengeful grin.

    “Comment:
    Is there a way to post where this P.O.S. is doing his time?.. just so we can get the word out to all his new cellmates..

    Fraga is in jail. He will be tried. There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him. He is there, not only to protect society from him, but also to protect him from vigilantes. Comments like those above give me great concern about those who still walk around freely in our culture.

    lilgoldnangel: I do not often quote the Bible, but when I do, it is the New Testament. Here Jesus instructs his followers to NOT take an eye for an eye. It only allows the sinner to drag you down to his level.

    I am not in favor of an eye for an eye. I like to think our society has reached a higher civil plain than this. (as of late…. I wonder)

    And no, I haven’t forgotten about poor Samantha. It’s extremely sad what she suffered. It’s just this thread took a whole different angle, being obsessed with vengeance. That is what I have been replying to.

    Does anyone know how flowers can be sent to her gravesite?

  • Jory

    No, I am not related to the accused, or to Samantha, or to anyone else involved in this crime. I am only connected through my business, which lead me to look for her obituary. That is how I ran across this site.

    Castille: I am not “supporting the accused” in any way. (Odds are, he is absolutely guilty.) I am only supporting a CJ system that needs to do its work. There is much to learn from a trial… such as the culpability of others who may be involved. Is the wife involved? Are there others who have not yet been identified? What did the kids know? What did the meighbors know? What lead to this crime? Is there a pathology that needs to be examined they may benefit us in the future?

    Castille says: “Oh, make no mistake, he is. He’s trying to do it subtly and obliquely, but that’s precisely what he is about here, his last post has made clear. And it’s us – those outraged to insanity by the heinousness of this crime that are the demented ones. Yeah. Go hug your murdering baby raper.”

    This comment is absolutely absurd, Castille, you know nothing about me. But, read on, you might learn something.

    Uvgottabkiddin: Who the hell are you to be calling me names. I am not the perpetrator here. So much for a civil conversation with this one!

    penelopejo: so, you’re saying then, that rape is a good thing!

    AlwaysInFlyoverCountry: I am in no position to know whether there is a cure or not. But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    It is comments like this that got me to post here:

    I got a an idle blow torch. I got an idle 9 inch angle grinder, with A LOT of discs.Please, tell me where he is.I want to “blow the cobwebs” out of these wonderful power tools with Josue.Think of it as tool time, but with me. Wearing a biohazard suit, with a very, very vengeful grin.

    “Comment:
    Is there a way to post where this P.O.S. is doing his time?.. just so we can get the word out to all his new cellmates..

    Fraga is in jail. He will be tried. There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him. He is there, not only to protect society from him, but also to protect him from vigilantes. Comments like those above give me great concern about those who still walk around freely in our culture.

    lilgoldnangel: I do not often quote the Bible, but when I do, it is the New Testament. Here Jesus instructs his followers to NOT take an eye for an eye. It only allows the sinner to drag you down to his level.

    I am not in favor of an eye for an eye. I like to think our society has reached a higher civil plain than this. (as of late…. I wonder)

    And no, I haven’t forgotten about poor Samantha. It’s extremely sad what she suffered. It’s just this thread took a whole different angle, being obsessed with vengeance. That is what I have been replying to.

    Does anyone know how flowers can be sent to her gravesite?

  • Ruby

    Welcome to the DD, Jory.

    I am not a proponent of “an eye for an eye,” either, and I have occasionally referred to members here are a cyber-lynch mob. Yet still, I’m a pretty long-term member here, as well as a contributing writer and moderator. You may wonder why.

    I used to get very angry about the violent revenge fantasies expressed in these threads. I don’t have fantasies like that, and I don’t think that sort of violence would improve a damned thing in this world. Further, I do believe in the criminal justice system and trial by jury. But here’s the thing:

    1. Members of the Dreamin’ Demon are not a jury, and have no power in terms of the criminal justice process. Members coming here and venting about immediate retribution doesn’t circumvent the criminal justice process in any way. There’s no point in defending the need for trial-by-jury, etc., because no one here is jeopardizing that.

    2. What I *do* believe in vis-a-vis the Dreamin’ Demon is that public shaming is a good thing. A positive thing. I liked the days when a neighborhood lady would grab a miscreant kid by the ear and haul him home to his parents for punishment. People should be involved. For as our small communities have scattered and globalization has evolved, we will ultimately find that we are all responsible for each other. Marshall McLuhan’s global village is here. We’re living in it. Morbid has created a forum where we can shine a light on the dark, twisted secrets of humanity; a place where we can grab the asshats of the world by the proverbial ear and drag ‘em home to mamma!

    If some of the members have violent revenge fantasies, so be it. That’s their right. No one is acting out any violence, and if we thought they were, law enforcement would be brought in immediately. Personally? It kind of turns my stomach. But I, also, have the right to say that (and say it I do), and we can discuss it here. And what could be MORE American than that??

    And yes, Uvgottabkiddin, this is one of the stories that has stuck with me the most from this site. I included it in my “top 10″ of 2009 (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11564) because it was one of the ones I just could not shake. All of the stories here are horrific, but a few of the names, faces, details rattle around your brain late at night when you’re trying to sleep. Samantha’s story is one of those for me.

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    Happy New Year.

  • Ruby

    Welcome to the DD, Jory.

    I am not a proponent of “an eye for an eye,” either, and I have occasionally referred to members here are a cyber-lynch mob. Yet still, I’m a pretty long-term member here, as well as a contributing writer and moderator. You may wonder why.

    I used to get very angry about the violent revenge fantasies expressed in these threads. I don’t have fantasies like that, and I don’t think that sort of violence would improve a damned thing in this world. Further, I do believe in the criminal justice system and trial by jury. But here’s the thing:

    1. Members of the Dreamin’ Demon are not a jury, and have no power in terms of the criminal justice process. Members coming here and venting about immediate retribution doesn’t circumvent the criminal justice process in any way. There’s no point in defending the need for trial-by-jury, etc., because no one here is jeopardizing that.

    2. What I *do* believe in vis-a-vis the Dreamin’ Demon is that public shaming is a good thing. A positive thing. I liked the days when a neighborhood lady would grab a miscreant kid by the ear and haul him home to his parents for punishment. People should be involved. For as our small communities have scattered and globalization has evolved, we will ultimately find that we are all responsible for each other. Marshall McLuhan’s global village is here. We’re living in it. Morbid has created a forum where we can shine a light on the dark, twisted secrets of humanity; a place where we can grab the asshats of the world by the proverbial ear and drag ‘em home to mamma!

    If some of the members have violent revenge fantasies, so be it. That’s their right. No one is acting out any violence, and if we thought they were, law enforcement would be brought in immediately. Personally? It kind of turns my stomach. But I, also, have the right to say that (and say it I do), and we can discuss it here. And what could be MORE American than that??

    And yes, Uvgottabkiddin, this is one of the stories that has stuck with me the most from this site. I included it in my “top 10″ of 2009 (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11564) because it was one of the ones I just could not shake. All of the stories here are horrific, but a few of the names, faces, details rattle around your brain late at night when you’re trying to sleep. Samantha’s story is one of those for me.

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    Happy New Year.

  • Ruby

    Welcome to the DD, Jory.

    I am not a proponent of “an eye for an eye,” either, and I have occasionally referred to members here are a cyber-lynch mob. Yet still, I’m a pretty long-term member here, as well as a contributing writer and moderator. You may wonder why.

    I used to get very angry about the violent revenge fantasies expressed in these threads. I don’t have fantasies like that, and I don’t think that sort of violence would improve a damned thing in this world. Further, I do believe in the criminal justice system and trial by jury. But here’s the thing:

    1. Members of the Dreamin’ Demon are not a jury, and have no power in terms of the criminal justice process. Members coming here and venting about immediate retribution doesn’t circumvent the criminal justice process in any way. There’s no point in defending the need for trial-by-jury, etc., because no one here is jeopardizing that.

    2. What I *do* believe in vis-a-vis the Dreamin’ Demon is that public shaming is a good thing. A positive thing. I liked the days when a neighborhood lady would grab a miscreant kid by the ear and haul him home to his parents for punishment. People should be involved. For as our small communities have scattered and globalization has evolved, we will ultimately find that we are all responsible for each other. Marshall McLuhan’s global village is here. We’re living in it. Morbid has created a forum where we can shine a light on the dark, twisted secrets of humanity; a place where we can grab the asshats of the world by the proverbial ear and drag ‘em home to mamma!

    If some of the members have violent revenge fantasies, so be it. That’s their right. No one is acting out any violence, and if we thought they were, law enforcement would be brought in immediately. Personally? It kind of turns my stomach. But I, also, have the right to say that (and say it I do), and we can discuss it here. And what could be MORE American than that??

    And yes, Uvgottabkiddin, this is one of the stories that has stuck with me the most from this site. I included it in my “top 10″ of 2009 (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11564) because it was one of the ones I just could not shake. All of the stories here are horrific, but a few of the names, faces, details rattle around your brain late at night when you’re trying to sleep. Samantha’s story is one of those for me.

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    Happy New Year.

  • Castille

    No, I am not related to the accused, or to Samantha, or to anyone else involved in this crime. I am only connected through my business, which lead me to look for her obituary. That is how I ran across this site.

    You said you arrived here representing the relatives, wishing to do them a favor. Well, any relative who’s searching for justice for Samantha has had the same dark rage cross their hearts over what has occurred. They’d understand it in others. They certainly wouldn’t waste their time and resources posting to call people out over their outrage and imply they’re murderers, nor would it be doing them any great favors to do so. Relatives supporting Fraga in the best way they can however, may do exactly that. You’re much more transparent than you think you are.

  • Castille

    No, I am not related to the accused, or to Samantha, or to anyone else involved in this crime. I am only connected through my business, which lead me to look for her obituary. That is how I ran across this site.

    You said you arrived here representing the relatives, wishing to do them a favor. Well, any relative who’s searching for justice for Samantha has had the same dark rage cross their hearts over what has occurred. They’d understand it in others. They certainly wouldn’t waste their time and resources posting to call people out over their outrage and imply they’re murderers, nor would it be doing them any great favors to do so. Relatives supporting Fraga in the best way they can however, may do exactly that. You’re much more transparent than you think you are.

  • Castille

    No, I am not related to the accused, or to Samantha, or to anyone else involved in this crime. I am only connected through my business, which lead me to look for her obituary. That is how I ran across this site.

    You said you arrived here representing the relatives, wishing to do them a favor. Well, any relative who’s searching for justice for Samantha has had the same dark rage cross their hearts over what has occurred. They’d understand it in others. They certainly wouldn’t waste their time and resources posting to call people out over their outrage and imply they’re murderers, nor would it be doing them any great favors to do so. Relatives supporting Fraga in the best way they can however, may do exactly that. You’re much more transparent than you think you are.

  • Jory

    Castille, I did not claim to be “representing” the family. I said, “I came here looking to do a favor for relatives of Samantha.” If it makes you feel better, they have no direct contact or connection to those involved. They do not support Josue Fraga. They just care about Samantha and would like to pay their respects. Once again, I am not as transparent as you think I am. I suppose you can also tell me what color socks I’m wearing!

    Ruby: You are a voice of reason.

    Does anyone know where I can find the obituary?

  • Jory

    Castille, I did not claim to be “representing” the family. I said, “I came here looking to do a favor for relatives of Samantha.” If it makes you feel better, they have no direct contact or connection to those involved. They do not support Josue Fraga. They just care about Samantha and would like to pay their respects. Once again, I am not as transparent as you think I am. I suppose you can also tell me what color socks I’m wearing!

    Ruby: You are a voice of reason.

    Does anyone know where I can find the obituary?

  • Jory

    Castille, I did not claim to be “representing” the family. I said, “I came here looking to do a favor for relatives of Samantha.” If it makes you feel better, they have no direct contact or connection to those involved. They do not support Josue Fraga. They just care about Samantha and would like to pay their respects. Once again, I am not as transparent as you think I am. I suppose you can also tell me what color socks I’m wearing!

    Ruby: You are a voice of reason.

    Does anyone know where I can find the obituary?

  • http://myspace.com/aerysta BringinVigilanteback

    I am not in favor of an eye for an eye. I like to think our society has reached a higher civil plain than this. (as of late…. I wonder)

    That is truly priceless. A higher civil plain. Because justice is served and oh so beautifully civil when violent criminals get to spend their meager sentences comfortable with 3 hots a day and the opportunity to take college courses. Hell, they even get to join dating sites and check their baby raping myspace pages. These people cannot be rehabilitated. There is NO coming back from raping a baby to death as five other children sleep in another room. Was that poor innocent trusting baby just an experiment? Just a accident? He can go to a few years of group therapy and one day be a stand up citizen? I think not. Chances are this was not his first go around with raping and abuse.

    He will never know the pain he caused. He will never understand. He will never know justice or remorse. If any one of these vigilantes had just a half an hour with him — if he survived, I could bet he’d never harm another living soul again.

  • http://myspace.com/aerysta BringinVigilanteback

    I am not in favor of an eye for an eye. I like to think our society has reached a higher civil plain than this. (as of late…. I wonder)

    That is truly priceless. A higher civil plain. Because justice is served and oh so beautifully civil when violent criminals get to spend their meager sentences comfortable with 3 hots a day and the opportunity to take college courses. Hell, they even get to join dating sites and check their baby raping myspace pages. These people cannot be rehabilitated. There is NO coming back from raping a baby to death as five other children sleep in another room. Was that poor innocent trusting baby just an experiment? Just a accident? He can go to a few years of group therapy and one day be a stand up citizen? I think not. Chances are this was not his first go around with raping and abuse.

    He will never know the pain he caused. He will never understand. He will never know justice or remorse. If any one of these vigilantes had just a half an hour with him — if he survived, I could bet he’d never harm another living soul again.

  • auddie

    . . . But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    act of violence = shaken baby syndrome

    penis used on toddler anus until feces/blood and intestines protrude = no promising research/fuck you jory

  • auddie

    . . . But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    act of violence = shaken baby syndrome

    penis used on toddler anus until feces/blood and intestines protrude = no promising research/fuck you jory

  • http://myspace.com/aerysta BringinVigilanteback

    I am not in favor of an eye for an eye. I like to think our society has reached a higher civil plain than this. (as of late…. I wonder)

    That is truly priceless. A higher civil plain. Because justice is served and oh so beautifully civil when violent criminals get to spend their meager sentences comfortable with 3 hots a day and the opportunity to take college courses. Hell, they even get to join dating sites and check their baby raping myspace pages. These people cannot be rehabilitated. There is NO coming back from raping a baby to death as five other children sleep in another room. Was that poor innocent trusting baby just an experiment? Just a accident? He can go to a few years of group therapy and one day be a stand up citizen? I think not. Chances are this was not his first go around with raping and abuse.

    He will never know the pain he caused. He will never understand. He will never know justice or remorse. If any one of these vigilantes had just a half an hour with him — if he survived, I could bet he’d never harm another living soul again.

  • auddie

    . . . But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    act of violence = shaken baby syndrome

    penis used on toddler anus until feces/blood and intestines protrude = no promising research/fuck you jory

  • lilgoldnangel

    That is truly priceless. A higher civil plain. Because justice is served and oh so beautifully civil when violent criminals get to spend their meager sentences comfortable with 3 hots a day and the opportunity to take college courses. Hell, they even get to join dating sites and check their baby raping myspace pages. These people cannot be rehabilitated. There is NO coming back from raping a baby to death as five other children sleep in another room. Was that poor innocent trusting baby just an experiment? Just a accident? He can go to a few years of group therapy and one day be a stand up citizen? I think not. Chances are this was not his first go around with raping and abuse.

    I agree!

    I am so done with the sermon!

  • lilgoldnangel

    That is truly priceless. A higher civil plain. Because justice is served and oh so beautifully civil when violent criminals get to spend their meager sentences comfortable with 3 hots a day and the opportunity to take college courses. Hell, they even get to join dating sites and check their baby raping myspace pages. These people cannot be rehabilitated. There is NO coming back from raping a baby to death as five other children sleep in another room. Was that poor innocent trusting baby just an experiment? Just a accident? He can go to a few years of group therapy and one day be a stand up citizen? I think not. Chances are this was not his first go around with raping and abuse.

    I agree!

    I am so done with the sermon!

  • lilgoldnangel

    That is truly priceless. A higher civil plain. Because justice is served and oh so beautifully civil when violent criminals get to spend their meager sentences comfortable with 3 hots a day and the opportunity to take college courses. Hell, they even get to join dating sites and check their baby raping myspace pages. These people cannot be rehabilitated. There is NO coming back from raping a baby to death as five other children sleep in another room. Was that poor innocent trusting baby just an experiment? Just a accident? He can go to a few years of group therapy and one day be a stand up citizen? I think not. Chances are this was not his first go around with raping and abuse.

    I agree!

    I am so done with the sermon!

  • lilgoldnangel

    I could not find an obituary for little Samantha, but I did find a few sites of interest.

    Two of them contain posts from people claiming to know the family and their comments insinuate that this is definitely not the first rape for Fraga. One of them claim that he and girl’s father are both child abusers.

    Again, these are just comments and insinuations made by others, but some of you might wnt to read them.

    Jory, you might find them interesting also, as some of the comments posted on these sites seem very similar to the ones on here. Looks like the Dreamin’ Demon is not the only site where vigilante views are shared.

    http://www.dglobe.com/articles/index.cfm?id=17051&page=comments

    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/bigelow-mn/TV2U6VVBLEEL6CFN0

  • lilgoldnangel

    I could not find an obituary for little Samantha, but I did find a few sites of interest.

    Two of them contain posts from people claiming to know the family and their comments insinuate that this is definitely not the first rape for Fraga. One of them claim that he and girl’s father are both child abusers.

    Again, these are just comments and insinuations made by others, but some of you might wnt to read them.

    Jory, you might find them interesting also, as some of the comments posted on these sites seem very similar to the ones on here. Looks like the Dreamin’ Demon is not the only site where vigilante views are shared.

    http://www.dglobe.com/articles/index.cfm?id=17051&page=comments

    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/bigelow-mn/TV2U6VVBLEEL6CFN0

  • lilgoldnangel

    I could not find an obituary for little Samantha, but I did find a few sites of interest.

    Two of them contain posts from people claiming to know the family and their comments insinuate that this is definitely not the first rape for Fraga. One of them claim that he and girl’s father are both child abusers.

    Again, these are just comments and insinuations made by others, but some of you might wnt to read them.

    Jory, you might find them interesting also, as some of the comments posted on these sites seem very similar to the ones on here. Looks like the Dreamin’ Demon is not the only site where vigilante views are shared.

    http://www.dglobe.com/articles/index.cfm?id=17051&page=comments

    http://www.ksfy.com/news/17118686.html

    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/bigelow-mn/TV2U6VVBLEEL6CFN0

  • Anonymous

    AlwaysInFlyoverCountry: I am in no position to know whether there is a cure or not. But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    The research has already been done on the sexually violent psychopath. To summarize, they’re not sick; they are evil.

    –Al

  • Anonymous

    AlwaysInFlyoverCountry: I am in no position to know whether there is a cure or not. But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    The research has already been done on the sexually violent psychopath. To summarize, they’re not sick; they are evil.

    –Al

  • AlwaysInFlyoverCountry

    AlwaysInFlyoverCountry: I am in no position to know whether there is a cure or not. But, I see this as an act of violence more than I see this as a sexual act. There is much promising research into violent behavior. There may be hope for a safer future yet!

    The research has already been done on the sexually violent psychopath. To summarize, they’re not sick; they are evil.

    –Al

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Does anyone know where I can find the obituary?

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=fraga&GSfn=samantha&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=32554607&

    not an obituary, but interesting people can leave messages for Samantha.

    a lot of funeral home list obituaries on their websites, maybe you can search there, I started to look at a few, but I have to go. I will look more later.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Does anyone know where I can find the obituary?

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=fraga&GSfn=samantha&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=32554607&

    not an obituary, but interesting people can leave messages for Samantha.

    a lot of funeral home list obituaries on their websites, maybe you can search there, I started to look at a few, but I have to go. I will look more later.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Does anyone know where I can find the obituary?

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=fraga&GSfn=samantha&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=32554607&

    not an obituary, but interesting people can leave messages for Samantha.

    a lot of funeral home list obituaries on their websites, maybe you can search there, I started to look at a few, but I have to go. I will look more later.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    Amen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    Amen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    Amen.

  • Jory

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site. Frankly though, if I can expect the same creepy welcome from other threads, I really think I can make better use of my time. Good luck, though and thanks for your civil comments.

    See guys! We can have an adult conversation here!

  • Jory

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site. Frankly though, if I can expect the same creepy welcome from other threads, I really think I can make better use of my time. Good luck, though and thanks for your civil comments.

    See guys! We can have an adult conversation here!

  • Jory

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site. Frankly though, if I can expect the same creepy welcome from other threads, I really think I can make better use of my time. Good luck, though and thanks for your civil comments.

    See guys! We can have an adult conversation here!

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site. Frankly though, if I can expect the same creepy welcome from other threads, I really think I can make better use of my time. Good luck, though and thanks for your civil comments.

    Well, since we are being honest, it is usually people who sign up here and without investigating, make a decision on the site and its creators based on one (of thousands) of articles and the comments made in it, that we do not normally care to keep. I know first impressions are important, but seriously…look at our subject matter. Even I feel dirty sometimes when writing and reading some of this stuff.

    But we have helped law enforcement on a handful of crimes, helped victims and their families in even more. The fact that we may turn off some readers because of our desire to not censor out 99 percent of what is posted (even if we do not agree with their views) is a price we are willing to pay at this point.

    But for a site that has daily comments of people wanting to skullfuck people who hurt children, and still have staff like Ruby…or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…well it just shows you how diverse our membership is and like Ruby stated…one common trait that links all of our members in regards to sympathy for victims and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    But I do ask that you do stick around. There is a lot more to this place than meets the eye.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site. Frankly though, if I can expect the same creepy welcome from other threads, I really think I can make better use of my time. Good luck, though and thanks for your civil comments.

    Well, since we are being honest, it is usually people who sign up here and without investigating, make a decision on the site and its creators based on one (of thousands) of articles and the comments made in it, that we do not normally care to keep. I know first impressions are important, but seriously…look at our subject matter. Even I feel dirty sometimes when writing and reading some of this stuff.

    But we have helped law enforcement on a handful of crimes, helped victims and their families in even more. The fact that we may turn off some readers because of our desire to not censor out 99 percent of what is posted (even if we do not agree with their views) is a price we are willing to pay at this point.

    But for a site that has daily comments of people wanting to skullfuck people who hurt children, and still have staff like Ruby…or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…well it just shows you how diverse our membership is and like Ruby stated…one common trait that links all of our members in regards to sympathy for victims and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    But I do ask that you do stick around. There is a lot more to this place than meets the eye.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site. Frankly though, if I can expect the same creepy welcome from other threads, I really think I can make better use of my time. Good luck, though and thanks for your civil comments.

    Well, since we are being honest, it is usually people who sign up here and without investigating, make a decision on the site and its creators based on one (of thousands) of articles and the comments made in it, that we do not normally care to keep. I know first impressions are important, but seriously…look at our subject matter. Even I feel dirty sometimes when writing and reading some of this stuff.

    But we have helped law enforcement on a handful of crimes, helped victims and their families in even more. The fact that we may turn off some readers because of our desire to not censor out 99 percent of what is posted (even if we do not agree with their views) is a price we are willing to pay at this point.

    But for a site that has daily comments of people wanting to skullfuck people who hurt children, and still have staff like Ruby…or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…well it just shows you how diverse our membership is and like Ruby stated…one common trait that links all of our members in regards to sympathy for victims and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    But I do ask that you do stick around. There is a lot more to this place than meets the eye.

  • silvahalo

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    But for a site that has daily comments of people wanting to skullfuck people who hurt children, and still have staff like Ruby…or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…well it just shows you how diverse our membership is and like Ruby stated…one common trait that links all of our members in regards to sympathy for victims and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    AMEN, AMEN & AMEN!

    This case is easily one of the most heartbreaking I have ever read…I remember this one in the forums and changed my spirit forever. I will take no reservations in saying that this Fraga, is a sick, demented, evil fuck! Based on the facts I have read he is guilty. I’ll be glad to retract any and all comments IF he is found innocent, but you know he won’t!

    This tiny little girl went through hell, unforgivable pain. She died in a most horrid and way, that only bastards like Fraga deserve. If given the opportunity I would be glad to take this evil bastards last breath away! Our society is riddle with the lowest form of humanity and one less is not going to keep me up at night.

    Rest in peace sweet Samantha…I’m so sorry, so very sorry you died in such
    a heinous and depraved way. Kisses sweet, one…rest in peace.

  • silvahalo

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    But for a site that has daily comments of people wanting to skullfuck people who hurt children, and still have staff like Ruby…or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…well it just shows you how diverse our membership is and like Ruby stated…one common trait that links all of our members in regards to sympathy for victims and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    AMEN, AMEN & AMEN!

    This case is easily one of the most heartbreaking I have ever read…I remember this one in the forums and changed my spirit forever. I will take no reservations in saying that this Fraga, is a sick, demented, evil fuck! Based on the facts I have read he is guilty. I’ll be glad to retract any and all comments IF he is found innocent, but you know he won’t!

    This tiny little girl went through hell, unforgivable pain. She died in a most horrid and way, that only bastards like Fraga deserve. If given the opportunity I would be glad to take this evil bastards last breath away! Our society is riddle with the lowest form of humanity and one less is not going to keep me up at night.

    Rest in peace sweet Samantha…I’m so sorry, so very sorry you died in such
    a heinous and depraved way. Kisses sweet, one…rest in peace.

  • silvahalo

    Finally, make no mistake, whether you like their posts or not, DD members are all united by a passion for giving the defenseless a voice, and for denouncing the violent victimization we see in our world. I commend that. If you take some time and read around on the site, you might come to have great respect for some of what’s been done here.

    But for a site that has daily comments of people wanting to skullfuck people who hurt children, and still have staff like Ruby…or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…well it just shows you how diverse our membership is and like Ruby stated…one common trait that links all of our members in regards to sympathy for victims and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    AMEN, AMEN & AMEN!

    This case is easily one of the most heartbreaking I have ever read…I remember this one in the forums and changed my spirit forever. I will take no reservations in saying that this Fraga, is a sick, demented, evil fuck! Based on the facts I have read he is guilty. I’ll be glad to retract any and all comments IF he is found innocent, but you know he won’t!

    This tiny little girl went through hell, unforgivable pain. She died in a most horrid and way, that only bastards like Fraga deserve. If given the opportunity I would be glad to take this evil bastards last breath away! Our society is riddle with the lowest form of humanity and one less is not going to keep me up at night.

    Rest in peace sweet Samantha…I’m so sorry, so very sorry you died in such
    a heinous and depraved way. Kisses sweet, one…rest in peace.

  • Lizard

    I just wanted to state, for the record, Ruby, that your comment knocked my socks off. I think it almost deserves to be a story on its own.

  • Lizard

    I just wanted to state, for the record, Ruby, that your comment knocked my socks off. I think it almost deserves to be a story on its own.

  • Lizard

    I just wanted to state, for the record, Ruby, that your comment knocked my socks off. I think it almost deserves to be a story on its own.

  • Ruby

    I just wanted to state, for the record, Ruby, that your comment knocked my socks off. I think it almost deserves to be a story on its own.

    Aw, thanks, lambchop. If I could have edited it, it would have truly kicked ass. ;-)

  • Ruby

    I just wanted to state, for the record, Ruby, that your comment knocked my socks off. I think it almost deserves to be a story on its own.

    Aw, thanks, lambchop. If I could have edited it, it would have truly kicked ass. ;-)

  • Ruby

    I just wanted to state, for the record, Ruby, that your comment knocked my socks off. I think it almost deserves to be a story on its own.

    Aw, thanks, lambchop. If I could have edited it, it would have truly kicked ass. ;-)

  • silvahalo

    Fraga is in jail. He will be tried. There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him. He is there, not only to protect society from him, but also to protect him from vigilantes. Comments like those above give me great concern about those who still walk around freely in our culture.

    It would be something to simply set back and feel nothing more than saying,
    “There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him….”
    I have been told, “I feel too much”, perhaps, that is why I feel so strongly for the countless victims I read about. I’d rather feel, vent, and say something even be it a bit disturbing sometimes, than sit back and put it out of my mind…I don’t think that is entirely healthy. We all know he will face a jury, judged and finally punished…yes, yes, that is the way of things as it should be otherwise we would unleash a world of chaos. I don’t believe enough is done in our glorious justice system to protect the most innocent and to find them justice when they are brutally killed and their life stolen….Christ, THIS WAS A 2 yr. OLD BABY!…yes, I feel deeply and I make no apologies for it.

    If some of the members have violent revenge fantasies, so be it. That’s their right. No one is acting out any violence, and if we thought they were, law enforcement would be brought in immediately. Personally? It kind of turns my stomach. But I, also, have the right to say that (and say it I do), and we can discuss it here. And what could be MORE American than that??

    Sometimes, the only way I can cope with the devastating reality we live in is to vent, and yes, to fantasize what I would have done to the perp. These vile creatures that commit the most heinous crimes imaginable to the most innocent of people, have brought me to that state. Franky, I think those of us that are members of D’D are special. In the way that it takes a lot to face the horrid truth about what goes on in society. Most people turn a blind eye and would rather not know the truth because it is too disturbing….I say be uncomfortable, be disturbed…you should be.

    That said, Ruby, you put into words what most of us cannot do because of the blinding anguish and rage we feel. I know there are many like me, that we feel so much distress over the victims death that we rage; and that in itself can be dangerous if you don’t find a way to cope. So thank you Ruby, Morbid, Imp, Lizard, Ucat, Jaded, all the staff writers here. Your works is hard you are down in the trenches digging up all the trash and shit society puts out.
    You deserve a world of thanks….I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • silvahalo

    Fraga is in jail. He will be tried. There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him. He is there, not only to protect society from him, but also to protect him from vigilantes. Comments like those above give me great concern about those who still walk around freely in our culture.

    It would be something to simply set back and feel nothing more than saying,
    “There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him….”
    I have been told, “I feel too much”, perhaps, that is why I feel so strongly for the countless victims I read about. I’d rather feel, vent, and say something even be it a bit disturbing sometimes, than sit back and put it out of my mind…I don’t think that is entirely healthy. We all know he will face a jury, judged and finally punished…yes, yes, that is the way of things as it should be otherwise we would unleash a world of chaos. I don’t believe enough is done in our glorious justice system to protect the most innocent and to find them justice when they are brutally killed and their life stolen….Christ, THIS WAS A 2 yr. OLD BABY!…yes, I feel deeply and I make no apologies for it.

    If some of the members have violent revenge fantasies, so be it. That’s their right. No one is acting out any violence, and if we thought they were, law enforcement would be brought in immediately. Personally? It kind of turns my stomach. But I, also, have the right to say that (and say it I do), and we can discuss it here. And what could be MORE American than that??

    Sometimes, the only way I can cope with the devastating reality we live in is to vent, and yes, to fantasize what I would have done to the perp. These vile creatures that commit the most heinous crimes imaginable to the most innocent of people, have brought me to that state. Franky, I think those of us that are members of D’D are special. In the way that it takes a lot to face the horrid truth about what goes on in society. Most people turn a blind eye and would rather not know the truth because it is too disturbing….I say be uncomfortable, be disturbed…you should be.

    That said, Ruby, you put into words what most of us cannot do because of the blinding anguish and rage we feel. I know there are many like me, that we feel so much distress over the victims death that we rage; and that in itself can be dangerous if you don’t find a way to cope. So thank you Ruby, Morbid, Imp, Lizard, Ucat, Jaded, all the staff writers here. Your works is hard you are down in the trenches digging up all the trash and shit society puts out.
    You deserve a world of thanks….I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • silvahalo

    Fraga is in jail. He will be tried. There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him. He is there, not only to protect society from him, but also to protect him from vigilantes. Comments like those above give me great concern about those who still walk around freely in our culture.

    It would be something to simply set back and feel nothing more than saying,
    “There is nothing I can do to him and nothing I would do for him….”
    I have been told, “I feel too much”, perhaps, that is why I feel so strongly for the countless victims I read about. I’d rather feel, vent, and say something even be it a bit disturbing sometimes, than sit back and put it out of my mind…I don’t think that is entirely healthy. We all know he will face a jury, judged and finally punished…yes, yes, that is the way of things as it should be otherwise we would unleash a world of chaos. I don’t believe enough is done in our glorious justice system to protect the most innocent and to find them justice when they are brutally killed and their life stolen….Christ, THIS WAS A 2 yr. OLD BABY!…yes, I feel deeply and I make no apologies for it.

    If some of the members have violent revenge fantasies, so be it. That’s their right. No one is acting out any violence, and if we thought they were, law enforcement would be brought in immediately. Personally? It kind of turns my stomach. But I, also, have the right to say that (and say it I do), and we can discuss it here. And what could be MORE American than that??

    Sometimes, the only way I can cope with the devastating reality we live in is to vent, and yes, to fantasize what I would have done to the perp. These vile creatures that commit the most heinous crimes imaginable to the most innocent of people, have brought me to that state. Franky, I think those of us that are members of D’D are special. In the way that it takes a lot to face the horrid truth about what goes on in society. Most people turn a blind eye and would rather not know the truth because it is too disturbing….I say be uncomfortable, be disturbed…you should be.

    That said, Ruby, you put into words what most of us cannot do because of the blinding anguish and rage we feel. I know there are many like me, that we feel so much distress over the victims death that we rage; and that in itself can be dangerous if you don’t find a way to cope. So thank you Ruby, Morbid, Imp, Lizard, Ucat, Jaded, all the staff writers here. Your works is hard you are down in the trenches digging up all the trash and shit society puts out.
    You deserve a world of thanks….I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • http://whisperswings.blogspot.com/ whispers_wing

    The research has already been done on the sexually violent psychopath. To summarize, they’re not sick; they are evil.

    Two of them contain posts from people claiming to know the family and their comments insinuate that this is definitely not the first rape for Fraga. One of them claim that he and girl’s father are both child abusers.

    Im sorry is it just me or does that paragraph sound alot like the “uncle,stepdad,dad” shit that were arrested in Rowan Fords case??

  • http://whisperswings.blogspot.com/ whispers_wing

    The research has already been done on the sexually violent psychopath. To summarize, they’re not sick; they are evil.

    Two of them contain posts from people claiming to know the family and their comments insinuate that this is definitely not the first rape for Fraga. One of them claim that he and girl’s father are both child abusers.

    Im sorry is it just me or does that paragraph sound alot like the “uncle,stepdad,dad” shit that were arrested in Rowan Fords case??

  • http://whisperswings.blogspot.com whispers_wing

    The research has already been done on the sexually violent psychopath. To summarize, they’re not sick; they are evil.

    Two of them contain posts from people claiming to know the family and their comments insinuate that this is definitely not the first rape for Fraga. One of them claim that he and girl’s father are both child abusers.

    Im sorry is it just me or does that paragraph sound alot like the “uncle,stepdad,dad” shit that were arrested in Rowan Fords case??

  • Lizard

    …or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…

    I *knew* Morbid was secretly proud of that prayer request thread!

  • Lizard

    …or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…

    I *knew* Morbid was secretly proud of that prayer request thread!

  • Lizard

    …or a site with the “Demon” in the name along with some sacrilegious imagery but still have a prayer request forum…

    I *knew* Morbid was secretly proud of that prayer request thread!

  • auddie

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site . . .

    You should really check out the wide variety in the forums, jory – haven’t been making the time to go there myself lately – but can tell you that DD is a veritable cornucopia of fascinating shit.

    . . . and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    Usually not much of a torture-perp fantasizer, but have the recurring thought of plunging darning needles into the urethra opening of this sick fucks’ penis.

    WTH?

  • auddie

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site . . .

    You should really check out the wide variety in the forums, jory – haven’t been making the time to go there myself lately – but can tell you that DD is a veritable cornucopia of fascinating shit.

    . . . and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    Usually not much of a torture-perp fantasizer, but have the recurring thought of plunging darning needles into the urethra opening of this sick fucks’ penis.

    WTH?

  • auddie

    To be honest, Morbid, this is the first and only thread I have looked at on DD. Maybe, if I have time I will look at other parts of your site . . .

    You should really check out the wide variety in the forums, jory – haven’t been making the time to go there myself lately – but can tell you that DD is a veritable cornucopia of fascinating shit.

    . . . and varying degrees of scorn towards criminals.

    Usually not much of a torture-perp fantasizer, but have the recurring thought of plunging darning needles into the urethra opening of this sick fucks’ penis.

    WTH?

  • http://www.myspace.com/titicarie philly_phan

    When posters here are vengefully looking for the accused, and other posters publicly state where he is being jailed… and some kind of vigilante “justice” were to be exacted upon Josue Fraga… would it be the least bit probable that this blog line would be investigated as a conspiracy to commit murder?

    Are you insinuating and are you serious??? If this guy were to be the ‘victim’ of vigilante JUSTICE…it wouldn’t be nearly as horrendous as what that 2 yr old LITTLE GIRL suffered and it would do all the rest of us a FAVOR for removing this piece of shit from existence! He doesn’t deserve a fair trial, a jury or to waste the taxpayer’s $. Why even keep a piece of shit like this alive? He doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. There is no excuse and no justification for this bullshit!

    Never read this story until today…for some reason this got skipped the 1st time around. OK, just checked date. This was posted while I was in hospital last summer. One of my many trips for car accident follow-up BS. Anyways, this has made me sick and disgusted. An uncle raping his brother’s daughter. A 2 yr old. Fucking sicko.

    @JORY: Yeah, an eye for an eye. Violence for violence. I am not suggesting picking an innocent person out of a crowd and beating him to death to prove a point. We are speaking and wishing violence on someone who deserves it! Someone who sexually abused his niece, a young child…he doesn’t deserve sympathy or the consideration of a trial. Waste of time and $. We should hang him from his balls in front of the courthouse and allow the public to stone to bastard.

  • http://www.myspace.com/titicarie philly_phan

    When posters here are vengefully looking for the accused, and other posters publicly state where he is being jailed… and some kind of vigilante “justice” were to be exacted upon Josue Fraga… would it be the least bit probable that this blog line would be investigated as a conspiracy to commit murder?

    Are you insinuating and are you serious??? If this guy were to be the ‘victim’ of vigilante JUSTICE…it wouldn’t be nearly as horrendous as what that 2 yr old LITTLE GIRL suffered and it would do all the rest of us a FAVOR for removing this piece of shit from existence! He doesn’t deserve a fair trial, a jury or to waste the taxpayer’s $. Why even keep a piece of shit like this alive? He doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. There is no excuse and no justification for this bullshit!

    Never read this story until today…for some reason this got skipped the 1st time around. OK, just checked date. This was posted while I was in hospital last summer. One of my many trips for car accident follow-up BS. Anyways, this has made me sick and disgusted. An uncle raping his brother’s daughter. A 2 yr old. Fucking sicko.

    @JORY: Yeah, an eye for an eye. Violence for violence. I am not suggesting picking an innocent person out of a crowd and beating him to death to prove a point. We are speaking and wishing violence on someone who deserves it! Someone who sexually abused his niece, a young child…he doesn’t deserve sympathy or the consideration of a trial. Waste of time and $. We should hang him from his balls in front of the courthouse and allow the public to stone to bastard.

  • http://www.myspace.com/titicarie philly_phan

    When posters here are vengefully looking for the accused, and other posters publicly state where he is being jailed… and some kind of vigilante “justice” were to be exacted upon Josue Fraga… would it be the least bit probable that this blog line would be investigated as a conspiracy to commit murder?

    Are you insinuating and are you serious??? If this guy were to be the ‘victim’ of vigilante JUSTICE…it wouldn’t be nearly as horrendous as what that 2 yr old LITTLE GIRL suffered and it would do all the rest of us a FAVOR for removing this piece of shit from existence! He doesn’t deserve a fair trial, a jury or to waste the taxpayer’s $. Why even keep a piece of shit like this alive? He doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. There is no excuse and no justification for this bullshit!

    Never read this story until today…for some reason this got skipped the 1st time around. OK, just checked date. This was posted while I was in hospital last summer. One of my many trips for car accident follow-up BS. Anyways, this has made me sick and disgusted. An uncle raping his brother’s daughter. A 2 yr old. Fucking sicko.

    @JORY: Yeah, an eye for an eye. Violence for violence. I am not suggesting picking an innocent person out of a crowd and beating him to death to prove a point. We are speaking and wishing violence on someone who deserves it! Someone who sexually abused his niece, a young child…he doesn’t deserve sympathy or the consideration of a trial. Waste of time and $. We should hang him from his balls in front of the courthouse and allow the public to stone to bastard.

  • Jory

    Philly_Phan,

    Violence for violence? How, then are you any better than the perp?
    Why keep him alive? Because you are not God and neither am I.
    “Someone who deserves it”? The Gospel according to Philly_phan. Good thing our American justice is tempered by those with more moderate souls.

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    The one thing many posters don’t realize… or care about, is… this is America… not Iran. To the best of my knowledge, there hasn’t yet been a trial, therefore, there is not yet a guilty perp… only a suspected one (yes, there may be others involved). Now, I don’t need to be reminded of the “evidence” … that has been covered in painful detail here. But the law is the law. If and when he is found guilty, he will receive the justice prescribed by our laws. If you don’t like it, there are many dictatorships that would love to have you as a citizen.

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    And why is there so much grasping for conclusions that are not supported by the publicly known evidence? For example, It’s probably unlikely… but, it is possible Fraga’s pants were smeared with goo when he picked her up off the floor. It is possible that Fraga was not the perp, but an enabler. Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    One more bit of reality…. this stuff happens every day. Look around and you’ll see that there are thousands of victims. Not just Samantha and “LITTLE CAYLEE”. Why the focus on these select few while ignoring the big picture?

    Finally, Keith Olbermann is on opposite Nancy Grace, maybe you should change the channel once in a while.

  • Jory

    Philly_Phan,

    Violence for violence? How, then are you any better than the perp?
    Why keep him alive? Because you are not God and neither am I.
    “Someone who deserves it”? The Gospel according to Philly_phan. Good thing our American justice is tempered by those with more moderate souls.

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    The one thing many posters don’t realize… or care about, is… this is America… not Iran. To the best of my knowledge, there hasn’t yet been a trial, therefore, there is not yet a guilty perp… only a suspected one (yes, there may be others involved). Now, I don’t need to be reminded of the “evidence” … that has been covered in painful detail here. But the law is the law. If and when he is found guilty, he will receive the justice prescribed by our laws. If you don’t like it, there are many dictatorships that would love to have you as a citizen.

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    And why is there so much grasping for conclusions that are not supported by the publicly known evidence? For example, It’s probably unlikely… but, it is possible Fraga’s pants were smeared with goo when he picked her up off the floor. It is possible that Fraga was not the perp, but an enabler. Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    One more bit of reality…. this stuff happens every day. Look around and you’ll see that there are thousands of victims. Not just Samantha and “LITTLE CAYLEE”. Why the focus on these select few while ignoring the big picture?

    Finally, Keith Olbermann is on opposite Nancy Grace, maybe you should change the channel once in a while.

  • Jory

    Philly_Phan,

    Violence for violence? How, then are you any better than the perp?
    Why keep him alive? Because you are not God and neither am I.
    “Someone who deserves it”? The Gospel according to Philly_phan. Good thing our American justice is tempered by those with more moderate souls.

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    The one thing many posters don’t realize… or care about, is… this is America… not Iran. To the best of my knowledge, there hasn’t yet been a trial, therefore, there is not yet a guilty perp… only a suspected one (yes, there may be others involved). Now, I don’t need to be reminded of the “evidence” … that has been covered in painful detail here. But the law is the law. If and when he is found guilty, he will receive the justice prescribed by our laws. If you don’t like it, there are many dictatorships that would love to have you as a citizen.

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    And why is there so much grasping for conclusions that are not supported by the publicly known evidence? For example, It’s probably unlikely… but, it is possible Fraga’s pants were smeared with goo when he picked her up off the floor. It is possible that Fraga was not the perp, but an enabler. Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    One more bit of reality…. this stuff happens every day. Look around and you’ll see that there are thousands of victims. Not just Samantha and “LITTLE CAYLEE”. Why the focus on these select few while ignoring the big picture?

    Finally, Keith Olbermann is on opposite Nancy Grace, maybe you should change the channel once in a while.

  • Jory

    Philly_Phan,

    Violence for violence? How, then are you any better than the perp?
    Why keep him alive? Because you are not God and neither am I.
    “Someone who deserves it”? The Gospel according to Philly_phan. Good thing our American justice is tempered by those with more moderate souls.

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    The one thing many posters don’t realize… or care about, is… this is America… not Iran. To the best of my knowledge, there hasn’t yet been a trial, therefore, there is not yet a guilty perp… only a suspected one (yes, there may be others involved). Now, I don’t need to be reminded of the “evidence” … that has been covered in painful detail here. But the law is the law. If and when he is found guilty, he will receive the justice prescribed by our laws. If you don’t like it, there are many dictatorships that would love to have you as a citizen.

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    And why is there so much grasping for conclusions that are not supported by the publicly known evidence? For example, It’s probably unlikely… but, it is possible Fraga’s pants were smeared with goo when he picked her up off the floor. It is possible that Fraga was not the perp, but an enabler. Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    One more bit of reality…. this stuff happens every day. Look around and you’ll see that there are thousands of victims. Not just Samantha and “LITTLE CAYLEE”. Why the focus on these select few while ignoring the big picture?

    Finally, Keith Olbermann is on opposite Nancy Grace, maybe you should change the channel once in a while.

  • sooner

    that fuckin piece of shit! id love to hang him up like a deer and skin his sick ass alive

  • sooner

    that fuckin piece of shit! id love to hang him up like a deer and skin his sick ass alive

  • sooner

    that fuckin piece of shit! id love to hang him up like a deer and skin his sick ass alive

  • tutkill

    Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    Can I vote him to death?

    Looks like some of those professionals arreated and indicted him LOL

    I bet those nonprofessional jurors will want to take a hammer……

  • tutkill

    Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    Can I vote him to death?

    Looks like some of those professionals arreated and indicted him LOL

    I bet those nonprofessional jurors will want to take a hammer……

  • tutkill

    Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    Can I vote him to death?

    Looks like some of those professionals arreated and indicted him LOL

    I bet those nonprofessional jurors will want to take a hammer……

  • sooner

    that fuckin piece of shit! id love to hang him up like a deer and skin his sick ass alive

  • tutkill

    Let the professionals figure out what really happened, and then, if you are not content with the verdict, you have the power to vote.

    Can I vote him to death?

    Looks like some of those professionals arreated and indicted him LOL

    I bet those nonprofessional jurors will want to take a hammer……

  • Castille

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    Are you an aspie? I ask that seriously, because they sometimes really don’t get these things. Age *does* matter – not in terms of sentencing, (except of course when assualters and killer of children end up getting lighter charges and sentences,) but in terms of societal reaction. Yes, people get raped and killed every day. But the killing by rape of a baby is, thankfully, still a rare occurence, and it hits a gut-wrenching high note on normally functioning people’s depravity meter. For instance, I can fathom a situation where I might kill someone. I could contruct a scenario where my brother rapes someone. There is no one I know that I could even begin to imagine raping a baby to death. Normal functioning people have a gut protective and nurturing response to young children – it’s why crimes against them are so much more affective then say, a helpless elderly person. However, crimes against helpless elderly or disabled people still rank higher on our social depravity meter than those against able adults.

    Now, as for the focus on individual problems rather than sheer statistics of crime? Because victims give a face and realness to crime. Most people can’t get passionate about statistics. They’re too removed, too abstract. Those of us who are not socially disabled empathize strongly with individual victims and their families. Narratives of actual events are very powerful. Her name may be Samantha, but we can strongly associate her with our own 2yr olds, which is part of how we empathize, and why it hurts us so strongly and emotionally. We care about her, and the details of her life and what happened only make her more real, and cause us to care more. We care about chidren vaguely in the abstract, but very powerfully in the real, individual child way. Some of the violent reactions you’ve seen tap into a current of how someone would want to react if it was their very own baby who had been violated in this way. We hug our own children just a little closer. This individual passion can be directed toward the broad picture, but the broad picture never illicits the same passion and caring.

    People just like us will be the ones rendering a verdict, and just as much of a mixed bag. We put our faith in them to see justice through – that’s how our justice system works, and I do believe in it. It’s got it’s flaws, but I haven’t witnessed a better one. The people we vote for simply appoint the prosecuters who make the case on behalf of the community.

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

  • Castille

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    Are you an aspie? I ask that seriously, because they sometimes really don’t get these things. Age *does* matter – not in terms of sentencing, (except of course when assualters and killer of children end up getting lighter charges and sentences,) but in terms of societal reaction. Yes, people get raped and killed every day. But the killing by rape of a baby is, thankfully, still a rare occurence, and it hits a gut-wrenching high note on normally functioning people’s depravity meter. For instance, I can fathom a situation where I might kill someone. I could contruct a scenario where my brother rapes someone. There is no one I know that I could even begin to imagine raping a baby to death. Normal functioning people have a gut protective and nurturing response to young children – it’s why crimes against them are so much more affective then say, a helpless elderly person. However, crimes against helpless elderly or disabled people still rank higher on our social depravity meter than those against able adults.

    Now, as for the focus on individual problems rather than sheer statistics of crime? Because victims give a face and realness to crime. Most people can’t get passionate about statistics. They’re too removed, too abstract. Those of us who are not socially disabled empathize strongly with individual victims and their families. Narratives of actual events are very powerful. Her name may be Samantha, but we can strongly associate her with our own 2yr olds, which is part of how we empathize, and why it hurts us so strongly and emotionally. We care about her, and the details of her life and what happened only make her more real, and cause us to care more. We care about chidren vaguely in the abstract, but very powerfully in the real, individual child way. Some of the violent reactions you’ve seen tap into a current of how someone would want to react if it was their very own baby who had been violated in this way. We hug our own children just a little closer. This individual passion can be directed toward the broad picture, but the broad picture never illicits the same passion and caring.

    People just like us will be the ones rendering a verdict, and just as much of a mixed bag. We put our faith in them to see justice through – that’s how our justice system works, and I do believe in it. It’s got it’s flaws, but I haven’t witnessed a better one. The people we vote for simply appoint the prosecuters who make the case on behalf of the community.

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

  • Castille

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    Are you an aspie? I ask that seriously, because they sometimes really don’t get these things. Age *does* matter – not in terms of sentencing, (except of course when assualters and killer of children end up getting lighter charges and sentences,) but in terms of societal reaction. Yes, people get raped and killed every day. But the killing by rape of a baby is, thankfully, still a rare occurence, and it hits a gut-wrenching high note on normally functioning people’s depravity meter. For instance, I can fathom a situation where I might kill someone. I could contruct a scenario where my brother rapes someone. There is no one I know that I could even begin to imagine raping a baby to death. Normal functioning people have a gut protective and nurturing response to young children – it’s why crimes against them are so much more affective then say, a helpless elderly person. However, crimes against helpless elderly or disabled people still rank higher on our social depravity meter than those against able adults.

    Now, as for the focus on individual problems rather than sheer statistics of crime? Because victims give a face and realness to crime. Most people can’t get passionate about statistics. They’re too removed, too abstract. Those of us who are not socially disabled empathize strongly with individual victims and their families. Narratives of actual events are very powerful. Her name may be Samantha, but we can strongly associate her with our own 2yr olds, which is part of how we empathize, and why it hurts us so strongly and emotionally. We care about her, and the details of her life and what happened only make her more real, and cause us to care more. We care about chidren vaguely in the abstract, but very powerfully in the real, individual child way. Some of the violent reactions you’ve seen tap into a current of how someone would want to react if it was their very own baby who had been violated in this way. We hug our own children just a little closer. This individual passion can be directed toward the broad picture, but the broad picture never illicits the same passion and caring.

    People just like us will be the ones rendering a verdict, and just as much of a mixed bag. We put our faith in them to see justice through – that’s how our justice system works, and I do believe in it. It’s got it’s flaws, but I haven’t witnessed a better one. The people we vote for simply appoint the prosecuters who make the case on behalf of the community.

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

  • Castille

    I have to wonder about the obsession with the age of the victim. Violence against anyone is wrong. I would be just as offended if my innocent and defenseless 80 year old mother suffered such horror. Get over the age thing, people.

    Are you an aspie? I ask that seriously, because they sometimes really don’t get these things. Age *does* matter – not in terms of sentencing, (except of course when assualters and killer of children end up getting lighter charges and sentences,) but in terms of societal reaction. Yes, people get raped and killed every day. But the killing by rape of a baby is, thankfully, still a rare occurence, and it hits a gut-wrenching high note on normally functioning people’s depravity meter. For instance, I can fathom a situation where I might kill someone. I could contruct a scenario where my brother rapes someone. There is no one I know that I could even begin to imagine raping a baby to death. Normal functioning people have a gut protective and nurturing response to young children – it’s why crimes against them are so much more affective then say, a helpless elderly person. However, crimes against helpless elderly or disabled people still rank higher on our social depravity meter than those against able adults.

    Now, as for the focus on individual problems rather than sheer statistics of crime? Because victims give a face and realness to crime. Most people can’t get passionate about statistics. They’re too removed, too abstract. Those of us who are not socially disabled empathize strongly with individual victims and their families. Narratives of actual events are very powerful. Her name may be Samantha, but we can strongly associate her with our own 2yr olds, which is part of how we empathize, and why it hurts us so strongly and emotionally. We care about her, and the details of her life and what happened only make her more real, and cause us to care more. We care about chidren vaguely in the abstract, but very powerfully in the real, individual child way. Some of the violent reactions you’ve seen tap into a current of how someone would want to react if it was their very own baby who had been violated in this way. We hug our own children just a little closer. This individual passion can be directed toward the broad picture, but the broad picture never illicits the same passion and caring.

    People just like us will be the ones rendering a verdict, and just as much of a mixed bag. We put our faith in them to see justice through – that’s how our justice system works, and I do believe in it. It’s got it’s flaws, but I haven’t witnessed a better one. The people we vote for simply appoint the prosecuters who make the case on behalf of the community.

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I have only read some of the comments left by Jory and feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help.

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I have only read some of the comments left by Jory and feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help.

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I have only read some of the comments left by Jory and feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help.

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

    Wow! Castille cussed! Not quite trollishy enough, Castille, but it’s an improvement!

    I am surprised this guy’s still breathing. Not if it had been my child!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

    Wow! Castille cussed! Not quite trollishy enough, Castille, but it’s an improvement!

    I am surprised this guy’s still breathing. Not if it had been my child!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

    Wow! Castille cussed! Not quite trollishy enough, Castille, but it’s an improvement!

    I am surprised this guy’s still breathing. Not if it had been my child!

  • FlamingFox

    If you’re not an aspie or similarly socially handicapped… Fuck off then – you should already know these things I’ve taken the time to spell out in the event you really don’t get them.

    Wow! Castille cussed! Not quite trollishy enough, Castille, but it’s an improvement!

    I am surprised this guy’s still breathing. Not if it had been my child!

  • Jory

    Castille: I have never suggested that people shouldn’t feel disgust, disbelief and horror when we hear these stories. And contrary to the belief of some posters, I do not represent or defend the actions of the perpetrator. (Why do I feel the constant need for this disclaimer???)

    I wanted to thank you for your very articulate reply. I do know these things quite well.

    But, I do not separate my feelings about one crime over another. I can empathize with all innocent victims. See…. I’m not a bad guy.

    Because I have chosen to focus on the big picture of justice over the horrid details of one poor victim does not mean I empathize any less than you or anyone else here.

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    So few of you posters have got me right, yet. I am about law and justice which over-shadows my need to scream profanities and evil. I thought we were better than that. I will never cease to be amazed!

  • Jory

    Castille: I have never suggested that people shouldn’t feel disgust, disbelief and horror when we hear these stories. And contrary to the belief of some posters, I do not represent or defend the actions of the perpetrator. (Why do I feel the constant need for this disclaimer???)

    I wanted to thank you for your very articulate reply. I do know these things quite well.

    But, I do not separate my feelings about one crime over another. I can empathize with all innocent victims. See…. I’m not a bad guy.

    Because I have chosen to focus on the big picture of justice over the horrid details of one poor victim does not mean I empathize any less than you or anyone else here.

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    So few of you posters have got me right, yet. I am about law and justice which over-shadows my need to scream profanities and evil. I thought we were better than that. I will never cease to be amazed!

  • Jory

    Castille: I have never suggested that people shouldn’t feel disgust, disbelief and horror when we hear these stories. And contrary to the belief of some posters, I do not represent or defend the actions of the perpetrator. (Why do I feel the constant need for this disclaimer???)

    I wanted to thank you for your very articulate reply. I do know these things quite well.

    But, I do not separate my feelings about one crime over another. I can empathize with all innocent victims. See…. I’m not a bad guy.

    Because I have chosen to focus on the big picture of justice over the horrid details of one poor victim does not mean I empathize any less than you or anyone else here.

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    So few of you posters have got me right, yet. I am about law and justice which over-shadows my need to scream profanities and evil. I thought we were better than that. I will never cease to be amazed!

  • Jory

    Castille: I have never suggested that people shouldn’t feel disgust, disbelief and horror when we hear these stories. And contrary to the belief of some posters, I do not represent or defend the actions of the perpetrator. (Why do I feel the constant need for this disclaimer???)

    I wanted to thank you for your very articulate reply. I do know these things quite well.

    But, I do not separate my feelings about one crime over another. I can empathize with all innocent victims. See…. I’m not a bad guy.

    Because I have chosen to focus on the big picture of justice over the horrid details of one poor victim does not mean I empathize any less than you or anyone else here.

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    So few of you posters have got me right, yet. I am about law and justice which over-shadows my need to scream profanities and evil. I thought we were better than that. I will never cease to be amazed!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

  • FlamingFox

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I am quite surprised that your well-written reply was discreditted by simplistic name-calling. Shouldn’t we reserve that for those who cannot find a better way to express themselves? (April)

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

  • http://www.phantods.com/ McQuest

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

  • http://www.phantods.com/ McQuest

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

  • http://www.phantods.com McQuest

    If you are implying that I was calling Castille a name, you are mistaken. My comment was in reference to a different reply made on a different thread and meant as a joke to Castille. I’m sure she gets it and does in no way take it as an insult.

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

    OH! Well, okay then, and good for her! LOL

    *waving arms* “Move along, move along people, there’s nothing to see here!”

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

    OH! Well, okay then, and good for her! LOL

    *waving arms* “Move along, move along people, there’s nothing to see here!”

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

    OH! Well, okay then, and good for her! LOL

    *waving arms* “Move along, move along people, there’s nothing to see here!”

  • FlamingFox

    i think he thought Castille was calling him an aspie.

    OH! Well, okay then, and good for her! LOL

    *waving arms* “Move along, move along people, there’s nothing to see here!”

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    no, we shouldn’t expose the jurors to the facts!!!!! Let him go so they don’t have to hear it about the rectum! Great idea, then will happen to someone else,
    If my rectum was prolapsed I’d want everyone to know so he could be punished, hell to make sure it didn’t happen to someone else they could show pictures!!!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    no, we shouldn’t expose the jurors to the facts!!!!! Let him go so they don’t have to hear it about the rectum! Great idea, then will happen to someone else,
    If my rectum was prolapsed I’d want everyone to know so he could be punished, hell to make sure it didn’t happen to someone else they could show pictures!!!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    no, we shouldn’t expose the jurors to the facts!!!!! Let him go so they don’t have to hear it about the rectum! Great idea, then will happen to someone else,
    If my rectum was prolapsed I’d want everyone to know so he could be punished, hell to make sure it didn’t happen to someone else they could show pictures!!!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    no, we shouldn’t expose the jurors to the facts!!!!! Let him go so they don’t have to hear it about the rectum! Great idea, then will happen to someone else,
    If my rectum was prolapsed I’d want everyone to know so he could be punished, hell to make sure it didn’t happen to someone else they could show pictures!!!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    I am very distressed at the level of obsession with the brutal details of this crime. Isn’t it bad enough that twelve jurors will have to be exposed to these grissly facts? Is it really necessary to describe her prolapsed rectum to the world? Why are so many people looking to read things that disturb them so?

    no, we shouldn’t expose the jurors to the facts!!!!! Let him go so they don’t have to hear it about the rectum! Great idea, then will happen to someone else,
    If my rectum was prolapsed I’d want everyone to know so he could be punished, hell to make sure it didn’t happen to someone else they could show pictures!!!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

    A (motha fuckin) MEN!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

    A (motha fuckin) MEN!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

    A (motha fuckin) MEN!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

    A (motha fuckin) MEN!

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Okay – So you called me out. Here we do – I don’t feel a damn thing other than disgust for Josue. I don’t want to think that my tax dollars are keeping him safe in prison. He raped and killed that precious child and he should be thrown into GP. Let the inmates impose their own justice. Why does he deserve to be protected? DId he protect Samantha. Don’t fucking call me out whene you are only here to start trouble. You claim to care so much for the child but continue to preach of Josue’s rights?? Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve to live. He robbed that child of her life and he should pay with his.

    A (motha fuckin) MEN!

  • Jory

    April, I called you out on your inability to adequately express yourself…..

    feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help..

    ????????

    This comment suggests you feel a lot more than only disgust for Fraga…..

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

    I am not defending Fraga’s rights. I am defending all of our rights. Any of us could be accused of a crime. Guilty or not. (Big picture, April… big picture)

    Like it or not, April, Fraga is still innocent UNTIL proven guilty (which he most likely will be). But pull your panties out of your butt and wait for the whole truth.

    Inmates have no right to impose their own justice and neither do you. Why do so many people think rape in prison is justified? It’s just another crime. And if you accept some crime as good for society, then maybe all crime should be ok. OK?

    I am not here to start trouble. It is the trouble here that I am responding to.

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

  • Jory

    April, I called you out on your inability to adequately express yourself…..

    feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help..

    ????????

    This comment suggests you feel a lot more than only disgust for Fraga…..

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

    I am not defending Fraga’s rights. I am defending all of our rights. Any of us could be accused of a crime. Guilty or not. (Big picture, April… big picture)

    Like it or not, April, Fraga is still innocent UNTIL proven guilty (which he most likely will be). But pull your panties out of your butt and wait for the whole truth.

    Inmates have no right to impose their own justice and neither do you. Why do so many people think rape in prison is justified? It’s just another crime. And if you accept some crime as good for society, then maybe all crime should be ok. OK?

    I am not here to start trouble. It is the trouble here that I am responding to.

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

  • Jory

    April, I called you out on your inability to adequately express yourself…..

    feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help..

    ????????

    This comment suggests you feel a lot more than only disgust for Fraga…..

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

    I am not defending Fraga’s rights. I am defending all of our rights. Any of us could be accused of a crime. Guilty or not. (Big picture, April… big picture)

    Like it or not, April, Fraga is still innocent UNTIL proven guilty (which he most likely will be). But pull your panties out of your butt and wait for the whole truth.

    Inmates have no right to impose their own justice and neither do you. Why do so many people think rape in prison is justified? It’s just another crime. And if you accept some crime as good for society, then maybe all crime should be ok. OK?

    I am not here to start trouble. It is the trouble here that I am responding to.

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

  • Jory

    April, I called you out on your inability to adequately express yourself…..

    feel that this tard bash is bein will handles without my help..

    ????????

    This comment suggests you feel a lot more than only disgust for Fraga…..

    Oh, and Morbid – Skull fucking is the minimal of what this baby raping asshole deserves.

    I am not defending Fraga’s rights. I am defending all of our rights. Any of us could be accused of a crime. Guilty or not. (Big picture, April… big picture)

    Like it or not, April, Fraga is still innocent UNTIL proven guilty (which he most likely will be). But pull your panties out of your butt and wait for the whole truth.

    Inmates have no right to impose their own justice and neither do you. Why do so many people think rape in prison is justified? It’s just another crime. And if you accept some crime as good for society, then maybe all crime should be ok. OK?

    I am not here to start trouble. It is the trouble here that I am responding to.

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

  • Anonymous

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    People do it all the damn time. They are called “Juries”.

    The last time I checked, terrorists don’t have juries; instead, they have a political goal that they seek to reach by violence and the threat of violence. Please identify the political goal Philly_Phan seeks.

    –Al

  • Anonymous

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    People do it all the damn time. They are called “Juries”.

    The last time I checked, terrorists don’t have juries; instead, they have a political goal that they seek to reach by violence and the threat of violence. Please identify the political goal Philly_Phan seeks.

    –Al

  • Anonymous

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    People do it all the damn time. They are called “Juries”.

    The last time I checked, terrorists don’t have juries; instead, they have a political goal that they seek to reach by violence and the threat of violence. Please identify the political goal Philly_Phan seeks.

    –Al

  • Anonymous

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    People do it all the damn time. They are called “Juries”.

    The last time I checked, terrorists don’t have juries; instead, they have a political goal that they seek to reach by violence and the threat of violence. Please identify the political goal Philly_Phan seeks.

    –Al

  • AlwaysInFlyoverCountry

    If YOU decide who is guilty and HOW guilty… and YOU decide their fate, how are you any different than a terrorist?

    People do it all the damn time. They are called “Juries”.

    The last time I checked, terrorists don’t have juries; instead, they have a political goal that they seek to reach by violence and the threat of violence. Please identify the political goal Philly_Phan seeks.

    –Al

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I think public shaming is just as vital as the justice system. Part of it involves bringing to light what may make others uncomfortable. Keeping it in the dark allows for the asshats to hide in that darkness.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I think public shaming is just as vital as the justice system. Part of it involves bringing to light what may make others uncomfortable. Keeping it in the dark allows for the asshats to hide in that darkness.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I think public shaming is just as vital as the justice system. Part of it involves bringing to light what may make others uncomfortable. Keeping it in the dark allows for the asshats to hide in that darkness.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I think public shaming is just as vital as the justice system. Part of it involves bringing to light what may make others uncomfortable. Keeping it in the dark allows for the asshats to hide in that darkness.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    But I still feel there is a deep-seated problem with people’s desire to obsess over one crime to the point of wanting become just as ugly as the perp. That is the bottom line of my comments.

    I think public shaming is just as vital as the justice system. Part of it involves bringing to light what may make others uncomfortable. Keeping it in the dark allows for the asshats to hide in that darkness.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    You are so correct Jory – What was I thinking. The baby’s injuries MUST have been self inflicted. I really am a dumb ass. Sheesh. Please tell Josue that I’m so sorry about the skull fucking post. Who do I write the letters to for his release. Do you think he’ll babysit for me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    You are so correct Jory – What was I thinking. The baby’s injuries MUST have been self inflicted. I really am a dumb ass. Sheesh. Please tell Josue that I’m so sorry about the skull fucking post. Who do I write the letters to for his release. Do you think he’ll babysit for me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    You are so correct Jory – What was I thinking. The baby’s injuries MUST have been self inflicted. I really am a dumb ass. Sheesh. Please tell Josue that I’m so sorry about the skull fucking post. Who do I write the letters to for his release. Do you think he’ll babysit for me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    You are so correct Jory – What was I thinking. The baby’s injuries MUST have been self inflicted. I really am a dumb ass. Sheesh. Please tell Josue that I’m so sorry about the skull fucking post. Who do I write the letters to for his release. Do you think he’ll babysit for me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    You are so correct Jory – What was I thinking. The baby’s injuries MUST have been self inflicted. I really am a dumb ass. Sheesh. Please tell Josue that I’m so sorry about the skull fucking post. Who do I write the letters to for his release. Do you think he’ll babysit for me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

    I can answer that – I would leave my son with all of them. I know they ALL would protect him with their lives.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

    I can answer that – I would leave my son with all of them. I know they ALL would protect him with their lives.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

    I can answer that – I would leave my son with all of them. I know they ALL would protect him with their lives.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

    I can answer that – I would leave my son with all of them. I know they ALL would protect him with their lives.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Go back, April, and read the whole thread and ask yourself how many of these “skull-fucking”, chain-saw wielding”, “hang-’em-by the-balls”, “fuck-him-in-the-ass” posters you would leave your children with.

    I can answer that – I would leave my son with all of them. I know they ALL would protect him with their lives.

  • Jory

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

  • Jory

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

  • Jory

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

  • Jory

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

  • Jory

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    I’m certainly not a Liberal asshole.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    I’m certainly not a Liberal asshole.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    I’m certainly not a Liberal asshole.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    I’m certainly not a Liberal asshole.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    I’m certainly not a Liberal asshole.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Or maybe I’m Communist. What difference does it make. I don’t see us sitting down to coffee any time soon to discuss the ways of the world.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Or maybe I’m Communist. What difference does it make. I don’t see us sitting down to coffee any time soon to discuss the ways of the world.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Or maybe I’m Communist. What difference does it make. I don’t see us sitting down to coffee any time soon to discuss the ways of the world.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Jory, shut up…. you’re an ass.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Jory, shut up…. you’re an ass.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Jory, shut up…. you’re an ass.

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Jory, shut up…. you’re an ass.

  • Jory

    Back to name-calling…. again!

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

  • Jory

    Back to name-calling…. again!

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

  • Jory

    Back to name-calling…. again!

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

  • Jory

    Back to name-calling…. again!

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

    Thank you – I would probably have a cup with you. Just understand, most of us have children and are passionate about giving these victims a voice. Although we come across as a cyber lynch mob – None of us have actually acted as such. This is just venting anger for these heinous crimes. I do have to say though, I wouldn’t be sad to hear that Josue was beaten to death in the shower. The world would be a better place without a few of these pervs in it..

    Stick around – Check out other stories. We are all here for the same reason.

    BTW – pardon my trpos. I have a light out over my desk and it’s making my eyes wig out.

    *hugs*

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

    Thank you – I would probably have a cup with you. Just understand, most of us have children and are passionate about giving these victims a voice. Although we come across as a cyber lynch mob – None of us have actually acted as such. This is just venting anger for these heinous crimes. I do have to say though, I wouldn’t be sad to hear that Josue was beaten to death in the shower. The world would be a better place without a few of these pervs in it..

    Stick around – Check out other stories. We are all here for the same reason.

    BTW – pardon my trpos. I have a light out over my desk and it’s making my eyes wig out.

    *hugs*

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

    Thank you – I would probably have a cup with you. Just understand, most of us have children and are passionate about giving these victims a voice. Although we come across as a cyber lynch mob – None of us have actually acted as such. This is just venting anger for these heinous crimes. I do have to say though, I wouldn’t be sad to hear that Josue was beaten to death in the shower. The world would be a better place without a few of these pervs in it..

    Stick around – Check out other stories. We are all here for the same reason.

    BTW – pardon my trpos. I have a light out over my desk and it’s making my eyes wig out.

    *hugs*

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    I presumed you were Wrepublican, because it is apparent in the way you think. But, I’d have a cup with you anyway!

    Thank you – I would probably have a cup with you. Just understand, most of us have children and are passionate about giving these victims a voice. Although we come across as a cyber lynch mob – None of us have actually acted as such. This is just venting anger for these heinous crimes. I do have to say though, I wouldn’t be sad to hear that Josue was beaten to death in the shower. The world would be a better place without a few of these pervs in it..

    Stick around – Check out other stories. We are all here for the same reason.

    BTW – pardon my trpos. I have a light out over my desk and it’s making my eyes wig out.

    *hugs*

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

  • Zibarro

    April, you MUST be a Wrepublican!

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    April,
    I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.
    I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    April,
    I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.
    I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    April,
    I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.
    I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    April,
    I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.
    I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    April,
    I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.
    I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

  • Jory

    April, I would never want you to be less passionate about your children. Bless you for that!

    In the context of an intellectual debate, though, let’s say Fraga was killed in jail. That would mean there is another murderer in the in the mix. And let’s say the inmate who killed him was never identified. And let’s say that inmate was only in prison for a five year term. That means a murderer would be let out on our streets eventually. I really doubt that would be a good thing.

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible. Then, let’s say Fraga was killed before the trial. We would never learn the whole story, nor would we remove the other guilty parties from our streets. Again… let justice run it’s course.

    I know you have faith in these other bloggers. You probably know them better than I. But, I believe that some people who are capable of thinking these evil thoughts (even about Fraga) are also capable of acting on those evil thoughts. Even if it’s one percent…. that’s too many.

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    From what I know, most abusers grew up being abused. I don’t know if that is the case with Fraga, but odds are good. Does anyone have something to offer in the line of understanding and putting an end to the chain of abuse? (Other than killing them?)

    If you haven’t guessed by now, I am against the death penalty. I am also against do-it-yourself justice. I am open to constructive solutions, but I doubt my views on these issues will ever change. (dyed-in-the-wool Liberal, I guess but, usually not an asshole.) :-)

  • Jory

    April, I would never want you to be less passionate about your children. Bless you for that!

    In the context of an intellectual debate, though, let’s say Fraga was killed in jail. That would mean there is another murderer in the in the mix. And let’s say the inmate who killed him was never identified. And let’s say that inmate was only in prison for a five year term. That means a murderer would be let out on our streets eventually. I really doubt that would be a good thing.

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible. Then, let’s say Fraga was killed before the trial. We would never learn the whole story, nor would we remove the other guilty parties from our streets. Again… let justice run it’s course.

    I know you have faith in these other bloggers. You probably know them better than I. But, I believe that some people who are capable of thinking these evil thoughts (even about Fraga) are also capable of acting on those evil thoughts. Even if it’s one percent…. that’s too many.

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    From what I know, most abusers grew up being abused. I don’t know if that is the case with Fraga, but odds are good. Does anyone have something to offer in the line of understanding and putting an end to the chain of abuse? (Other than killing them?)

    If you haven’t guessed by now, I am against the death penalty. I am also against do-it-yourself justice. I am open to constructive solutions, but I doubt my views on these issues will ever change. (dyed-in-the-wool Liberal, I guess but, usually not an asshole.) :-)

  • Jory

    April, I would never want you to be less passionate about your children. Bless you for that!

    In the context of an intellectual debate, though, let’s say Fraga was killed in jail. That would mean there is another murderer in the in the mix. And let’s say the inmate who killed him was never identified. And let’s say that inmate was only in prison for a five year term. That means a murderer would be let out on our streets eventually. I really doubt that would be a good thing.

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible. Then, let’s say Fraga was killed before the trial. We would never learn the whole story, nor would we remove the other guilty parties from our streets. Again… let justice run it’s course.

    I know you have faith in these other bloggers. You probably know them better than I. But, I believe that some people who are capable of thinking these evil thoughts (even about Fraga) are also capable of acting on those evil thoughts. Even if it’s one percent…. that’s too many.

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    From what I know, most abusers grew up being abused. I don’t know if that is the case with Fraga, but odds are good. Does anyone have something to offer in the line of understanding and putting an end to the chain of abuse? (Other than killing them?)

    If you haven’t guessed by now, I am against the death penalty. I am also against do-it-yourself justice. I am open to constructive solutions, but I doubt my views on these issues will ever change. (dyed-in-the-wool Liberal, I guess but, usually not an asshole.) :-)

  • Jory

    April, I would never want you to be less passionate about your children. Bless you for that!

    In the context of an intellectual debate, though, let’s say Fraga was killed in jail. That would mean there is another murderer in the in the mix. And let’s say the inmate who killed him was never identified. And let’s say that inmate was only in prison for a five year term. That means a murderer would be let out on our streets eventually. I really doubt that would be a good thing.

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible. Then, let’s say Fraga was killed before the trial. We would never learn the whole story, nor would we remove the other guilty parties from our streets. Again… let justice run it’s course.

    I know you have faith in these other bloggers. You probably know them better than I. But, I believe that some people who are capable of thinking these evil thoughts (even about Fraga) are also capable of acting on those evil thoughts. Even if it’s one percent…. that’s too many.

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    From what I know, most abusers grew up being abused. I don’t know if that is the case with Fraga, but odds are good. Does anyone have something to offer in the line of understanding and putting an end to the chain of abuse? (Other than killing them?)

    If you haven’t guessed by now, I am against the death penalty. I am also against do-it-yourself justice. I am open to constructive solutions, but I doubt my views on these issues will ever change. (dyed-in-the-wool Liberal, I guess but, usually not an asshole.) :-)

  • Jory

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

  • Jory

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

  • Jory

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

  • Jory

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Jory, you MUST be a Wretard! (In fact, I’m sure of it!)

    Funny.

    April,I have lllllllllllllonnnngggggggggg been a fan of yours! I would leave my children with you. You defend, degrade, publicly humiliate all of these ass-rags in a way that makes me jealous. We all have a common goal around DD. That is to make the guilty feel worse than shit even though it is not going to stop all of the abuse and violence that some children endure daily although a good portion of the DD posters do volunteer, organize and donate to the cause.I have met some great folks through this site, some “Wrepublican”, some Democrat, some Liberal assholes such as myself (LOL).

    Love you too and would totally scoot my little J-man on over to your place for dinner and a movie. Love the last line. Don’t get me wrong – I have some Liberal points of view and I’m a total asshole.

    Jory – as for Fraga being killed in jail – Some inmates have the same passion that we do and have nothing to live for anyhow. I appreciate your passion as well. My thoughts (to keep it simple) – Fraga gave up his rights when he raped and murdered that baby. he only has the rights you speak of because the law says so.

    I know plentyy of people that opose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    That goes for everyone and every post for that matter.

    BTW – Are you involved with the “Fraga’s” in some way. Just curious?

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • FlamingFox

    Let’s say Fraga’s wife or friend committed this crime. It is possible

    Ahem…

    7 or 7:30 pm – Josue ate dinner9 or 9:30 pm – Josue put the smaller children to bed (all six children slept in the same room) and changed Samantha’s diaper10 or 10:30 pm – Josue put the older children to bed11pm – 12 am – Child gets up and Josuea gives her water (do not know if this is the victim or not)2:20 am – Josue checks on kids2:30 am – Josue leaves to pick up wife from work2:31 am – Wife punches out of work2:30 am – (Wife statement) Couple came home, ate dinner, watched TV3 – 3:30 am – Couple goes to bed4:18 am – (sibling statement) Sibling goes to bathroom, does not see Samantha in her bed, sees mother washing dishes and Josue watching TV5:30 am – Josue goes to bathroom, sees Samantha on floor and watches the 3-year-old jump on her stomach. Wakes up wife who puts a diaper on Samantha.5:35 am Samantha brought to ER6:18 am – Samantha pronounced dead6:23 am – Police dispatched to hospital

    I highly doubt he is innocent or anyone else is guilty for the crime!

    I know plenty of people that oppose the DP. I, for one, think public hangings should come back.

    Yes, I agree 100 percent! Call me whatever you will, but I am, as a tax paying citizen, sick and tired of these POS living within four walls, eating three squares a day, and having the opportunities to get college degrees on my dollar! Why should they have rights to any comforts whatsoever when they personally denied that to their victims?

    Uvgottabkiddin & Zibarro, You’re welcome to scroll past my posts if they are so upsetting to you.

    I think you need to read them because obviously you LOVE listening to yourself talk! I’m guessing that’s exactly why you feel the need to come on here and continuously argue the same BS over and over again. The people in your life must be tired of listening to it and they have my sympathy!

    Further more, a few days ago, I read one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this site so far! April, Zibarro, and Uvgottabkiddin, the following quote is from a quick-witted little lady I have come to admire with a fetching style and wit that’s all her own:

    When you feed the trolls, they set up camp, and this one is a particularly unsavory, and more importantly, unentertaining variety.

  • btrflyangl

    It’s very surprising to see how many people have such faith in our justice system. I was victimized and then victimized again by our “justice” system. Served NO jail time. NONE. Now he is off probation and doing God knows what to God knows who. I have zero faith in our justice system. Zip, zilch, zero.

    If I had known things would’ve turned out that way, I would have just killed him. At least I wouldn’t have the nagging worry in the back of my mind everyday wondering if he’s violating some other child.

    Child molesters notoriously get off with a slap on the wrist, often serving NO jail time. Mainly because charges are lessened or plead down. Children are often victimized again having to sit in a court room full of people and live their abuse all over again. Then these pervs are free to move on and victimize more children. Great justice system there.

    I’m sure this man has left more victims in his wake than we will ever know about. You don’t just wake up one day and decided you’re going rape a child to death. The suffering I hope this man does in prison is called karma, and I hope it’s a cold, hard bitch to him.

    Rest in peace baby girl.

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

  • btrflyangl

    It’s very surprising to see how many people have such faith in our justice system. I was victimized and then victimized again by our “justice” system. Served NO jail time. NONE. Now he is off probation and doing God knows what to God knows who. I have zero faith in our justice system. Zip, zilch, zero.

    If I had known things would’ve turned out that way, I would have just killed him. At least I wouldn’t have the nagging worry in the back of my mind everyday wondering if he’s violating some other child.

    Child molesters notoriously get off with a slap on the wrist, often serving NO jail time. Mainly because charges are lessened or plead down. Children are often victimized again having to sit in a court room full of people and live their abuse all over again. Then these pervs are free to move on and victimize more children. Great justice system there.

    I’m sure this man has left more victims in his wake than we will ever know about. You don’t just wake up one day and decided you’re going rape a child to death. The suffering I hope this man does in prison is called karma, and I hope it’s a cold, hard bitch to him.

    Rest in peace baby girl.

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

  • btrflyangl

    It’s very surprising to see how many people have such faith in our justice system. I was victimized and then victimized again by our “justice” system. Served NO jail time. NONE. Now he is off probation and doing God knows what to God knows who. I have zero faith in our justice system. Zip, zilch, zero.

    If I had known things would’ve turned out that way, I would have just killed him. At least I wouldn’t have the nagging worry in the back of my mind everyday wondering if he’s violating some other child.

    Child molesters notoriously get off with a slap on the wrist, often serving NO jail time. Mainly because charges are lessened or plead down. Children are often victimized again having to sit in a court room full of people and live their abuse all over again. Then these pervs are free to move on and victimize more children. Great justice system there.

    I’m sure this man has left more victims in his wake than we will ever know about. You don’t just wake up one day and decided you’re going rape a child to death. The suffering I hope this man does in prison is called karma, and I hope it’s a cold, hard bitch to him.

    Rest in peace baby girl.

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • FlamingFox

    Jory, I’m sure if this were your daughter you would be here giving us the same speech. Riiiight. I wish there were an ignore feature on here.

    Jory’s a smart cookie. He’d just find his way around it or start up a new account under a different name. He needs to come to the dark side. We have better cookies, and more intelligent ones to boot! :)

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

  • btrflyangl

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

    Thank you Fox.

    Good new is that the Mo’Fo’ is old, maybe he’ll die soon and I can get some peace.

  • btrflyangl

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

    Thank you Fox.

    Good new is that the Mo’Fo’ is old, maybe he’ll die soon and I can get some peace.

  • btrflyangl

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

    Thank you Fox.

    Good new is that the Mo’Fo’ is old, maybe he’ll die soon and I can get some peace.

  • btrflyangl

    I am sorry for the pain you suffered! Child molestation hits close to me, within my own family, and I agree with you that people just don’t wake up one day and decide to do this! I hope you have or will be able to find some peace one day! Bless You!

    Thank you Fox.

    Good new is that the Mo’Fo’ is old, maybe he’ll die soon and I can get some peace.

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Thank you Fox.

    *Heart and hugs back, darlin’* *extra hugs because you are a survivor!*

    Stay strong, stay focused, and take one day at a time! *love*

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Thank you Fox.

    *Heart and hugs back, darlin’* *extra hugs because you are a survivor!*

    Stay strong, stay focused, and take one day at a time! *love*

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Thank you Fox.

    *Heart and hugs back, darlin’* *extra hugs because you are a survivor!*

    Stay strong, stay focused, and take one day at a time! *love*

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Thank you Fox.

    *Heart and hugs back, darlin’* *extra hugs because you are a survivor!*

    Stay strong, stay focused, and take one day at a time! *love*

  • http://wickedandweirdnews.wordpress.com/ FlamingFox

    Thank you Fox.

    *Heart and hugs back, darlin’* *extra hugs because you are a survivor!*

    Stay strong, stay focused, and take one day at a time! *love*

  • FlamingFox

    Thank you Fox.

    *Heart and hugs back, darlin’* *extra hugs because you are a survivor!*

    Stay strong, stay focused, and take one day at a time! *love*

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    If you read more of the site, you will see that many of the members here are doing just that. All in their own way. Some as professionals, some as volunteers, and some as parents. Areas of the forum get into many discussions on a variety of topics… including what needs fixing and how anyone thinks it should be done or how they are working for it.

    Not seeing everyone’s résumé with every post does not mean that they have nothing else beyond the vent.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    If you read more of the site, you will see that many of the members here are doing just that. All in their own way. Some as professionals, some as volunteers, and some as parents. Areas of the forum get into many discussions on a variety of topics… including what needs fixing and how anyone thinks it should be done or how they are working for it.

    Not seeing everyone’s résumé with every post does not mean that they have nothing else beyond the vent.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    If you read more of the site, you will see that many of the members here are doing just that. All in their own way. Some as professionals, some as volunteers, and some as parents. Areas of the forum get into many discussions on a variety of topics… including what needs fixing and how anyone thinks it should be done or how they are working for it.

    Not seeing everyone’s résumé with every post does not mean that they have nothing else beyond the vent.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    If you read more of the site, you will see that many of the members here are doing just that. All in their own way. Some as professionals, some as volunteers, and some as parents. Areas of the forum get into many discussions on a variety of topics… including what needs fixing and how anyone thinks it should be done or how they are working for it.

    Not seeing everyone’s résumé with every post does not mean that they have nothing else beyond the vent.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    This is not my blog and I am not asking to restructure it. But, I would have a little more faith in humanity if someone here was offering workable solutions along with their venting.

    If you read more of the site, you will see that many of the members here are doing just that. All in their own way. Some as professionals, some as volunteers, and some as parents. Areas of the forum get into many discussions on a variety of topics… including what needs fixing and how anyone thinks it should be done or how they are working for it.

    Not seeing everyone’s résumé with every post does not mean that they have nothing else beyond the vent.

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • Unamused Cat

    Father of murdered baby testifies at Fraga’s trial. 

    http://www.dglobe.com/event/article/id/22439/

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    No wonder there are so many evil, sick fucks out in the world.  They are not given a sliver of a chance from the day they are born!

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    No wonder there are so many evil, sick fucks out in the world.  They are not given a sliver of a chance from the day they are born!

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    No wonder there are so many evil, sick fucks out in the world.  They are not given a sliver of a chance from the day they are born!

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    No wonder there are so many evil, sick fucks out in the world.  They are not given a sliver of a chance from the day they are born!

  • 2 boys mom in NC

    No wonder there are so many evil, sick fucks out in the world.  They are not given a sliver of a chance from the day they are born!

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • coffee achiever

    http://wcco.com/local/Josue.Fraga.convicted.2.1011056.html

    A jury has found a 34-year-old Worthington guilty of murder in the death of his 2-year-old niece.

    Josue Fraga was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for killing Samantha Fraga while committing first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    After the verdict was read, Fraga told the court he was innocent. His attorney said there will likely be an appeal.

    Go fuck yourself, Fraga. Or better yet, let one of the general pop boys do it for you. With a sharpened broom handle.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    That little girl’s father should be sitting next to his brother…He told the jury that Josue would sexually assult him when they were kids and when he told his mother about it, she called him a liar. He sent that little girl and her brother to live there, knowing full well what his brother was.

  • karebu

    The only problem with him going to prison is he will be in PC (protective custody). They have to keep the child rapists and rats seperate from general population or they wouldn’t last a week.

  • karebu

    The only problem with him going to prison is he will be in PC (protective custody). They have to keep the child rapists and rats seperate from general population or they wouldn’t last a week.

  • karebu

    The only problem with him going to prison is he will be in PC (protective custody). They have to keep the child rapists and rats seperate from general population or they wouldn’t last a week.

  • karebu

    The only problem with him going to prison is he will be in PC (protective custody). They have to keep the child rapists and rats seperate from general population or they wouldn’t last a week.

  • karebu

    The only problem with him going to prison is he will be in PC (protective custody). They have to keep the child rapists and rats seperate from general population or they wouldn’t last a week.

  • knotme

    The Death Penalty isn’t a punishment of or for revenge; it is no different than putting down a wild animal that is too dangerous to live among all the other creatures.  I would be lying if I said there wasn’t a smile on my face when one of these waste of human skin is executed; that smile is from relief that no future victims will be damaged by this one.  To allow them to live out their years to old age in secure comfort is just too humiliating for me personally as a taxpayer and a human being.  To the bleeding-hearts out there… get some self-respect and stop wimping-out… God sanctions executions.. O.T. is full of it!

  • knotme

    The Death Penalty isn’t a punishment of or for revenge; it is no different than putting down a wild animal that is too dangerous to live among all the other creatures.  I would be lying if I said there wasn’t a smile on my face when one of these waste of human skin is executed; that smile is from relief that no future victims will be damaged by this one.  To allow them to live out their years to old age in secure comfort is just too humiliating for me personally as a taxpayer and a human being.  To the bleeding-hearts out there… get some self-respect and stop wimping-out… God sanctions executions.. O.T. is full of it!