i am very sorry for not being clear.
i feel that Paul got a way to short sentence…
and frankly i dont care about russel as long as he dies before he gets out of jail.

agree 5 years what kind of crap is that, he should’ve gotten at least 5 years per rape

the girls probably went over there to drink, teens are immature and dont think straight, if they have the opportunity to drink i’m pretty sure they are going to take it.

That sounds entirely likely……

You think Paul got too short a sentence and Russell too long a sentence, or am I interpreting your first post wrongly? What do you think should have happened to them?

the girls probably went over there to drink, teens are immature and dont think straight, if they have the opportunity to drink i’m pretty sure they are gonig to take it.

we were all that age once.

as sick as this is, i still can’t believe i used to be friends with him. that stopped after he rapped two of my friends. although only one told the police. and as far as you guys trying to figure out how he got girls to come over, he had a rep. for having a huge dick.

Yeah, but as a high school girl, that wouldn’t have been enough to get me to the guy’s house – especially if I didn’t plan on having sex with him.

I assume you meant “raped”, right?

So do tell, Degeneration. What else do you know?

If they haven’t been doing it already, they’d probably like it. =P

LOL. No shit!

SatanDo — Could you arrange for them to rape each other throughout eternity?

If they haven’t been doing it already, they’d probably like it. =P

Thank the Goddess it didn’t need to come to that before nabbing these sick bastards – they’re an embarrassment to manhood. Shave ‘em both down to pink skin and release into the wilds of a prison yard. Without the sphincter-relaxing benefits of alcohol, they’ll be quealing like pigs, soon enough.

Unless your kids are applying for sainthood, there surely have been and will be times that you just *think* you know where they are.

I’ll give you that, Athena, and even agree with you. However, a 14-year old, I would think would be more likely to have ‘close’ supervision than, say, the 17-year old. And if, in this case, the parents actually did know where she was and thought it was safe because she ‘knew’ the pervs, that is another thing that should be addressed in the ‘keeping yourself safe’ talk.

My daughters are not allowed to have any of their girl friends over unless I am home. And when my son gets into his teen years, he will not have any friends over unless his dad is home. Not because I am worried about anything actually happening (because I’m not), but because so many girls (and boys) these days have been caught lying about parents of their friends just to get attention. In the boys’ cases, most of the time, it is done during a ‘brag session’ with their friends, and one of the friends tells another adult, and the boy who lied sticks to his story to avoid ‘losing face’ with his friends. Until the incident is proven to be false – but by then the damage is already done. As with the girls who lie about a friend’s father (I have known of two cases like this in the county I live in, and the county population is less than 10,000), by the time the lie is discovered, the man’s reputation is already fucked.

For that reason, also, I will not allow my daughters to spend the night at the house of a friend who has a teenage brother, or stay with a friend whose mother is not going to be home. It is to protect her, as well as the other family’s reputation. So, if one of my daughter’s male friends were to invite her to his house, she would not go anyway, and especially not if the only parent present was going to be the father. I have drilled into her the dangers of putting herself into situations like that. I have been accused by many people of trying to make my daughter “as paranoid as I am”. I don’t consider it paranoia, though, only common sense. My daughters know what I went through as a child and teen, and they are better able to understand things of this nature than some others might.

Again, Athena, I totally agree that if a teen wants to ‘pull a fast one’, on mom and dad, they have a very good chance of being successful at least once or twice in their lives. But if the parent teaches them the dangers of certain situations, they are more likely to try to avoid certain scenarios. And I know many of you won’t believe it, but the way I raise my kids, they really should never have reason to try and ’sneak off’ to do anything. My oldest never has, and she is still honest with me about the things she does in her life. She told me about all of her ‘firsts’, from kissing (and more), to getting drunk the first time at college. I try to be as open as I can with my kids so that they will trust me enough to confide in me when they do things, and so they will trust me when I tell them to do (or not do) certain things in order to keep them safe.