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Esar Met Murdered Hser Nay Moo

April 2, 2008 at 8:06 am by  

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Salt Lake City, UT – On Monday afternoon, seven-year-old Hser Nay Moo (pronounced Sen Na Moo) got in a fight with her 10-year-old brother. She stalked out of the family’s apartment, and her father asked Hser where she was going. She tossed her head, but didn’t answer. Her father watched her walk south for a few minutes and decided to give Hser, a bright but shy little girl who was learning English, time to cool off. Hser Nay Moo never made it home.

Hser left the family apartment at about 2:00 p.m. Monday. When her older brothers returned home at 4:30, Hser still hadn’t returned. After searching for her for an hour, police were called to help at 6:10 by a family friend who spoke English. Because no witnesses saw an abductor, no Amber Alert was issued. While a bigger search was organized at 10:30 p.m. Monday, still no Amber Alert went out.

By Tuesday morning, Hser was nowhere to be found. Volunteers began streaming into the Salt Lake apartment complex to help, but were asked to wait before searching. Organization was slow, and by 9:30 when search teams still weren’t cleared to go look for the child, police issued an Amber Alert. At 11:15, searchers were finally given the go-ahead to start looking, and police began searching in force for the little seven year old girl, dressed all in pink except for her black Burmese coat. Searchers were told to look for long black hair and pink Crocs, or a pink dress. The day went on with no sign of Hser, and increasing panic on the part of her family, who have been in the US less than a year.

At 7:00 p.m. Tuesday, FBI agents found Hser in an apartment a few buildings over, but in the same complex, as her own. Agents located the child dead in the apartment bathroom. The apartment was occupied by five men, so I think we can guarantee rape as a motive. Hser’s small body showed signs of trauma, but authorities are not yet disclosing her injuries or estimated time of death.

The five men who live in the apartment where Hser was found were taken into custody. Wednesday morning, 21-year-old Esar Met admitted to kidnapping and killing Hser and hiding her body. Met is being held in Salt Lake City on suspicion of aggravated murder, child kidnapping, and tampering with evidence. Aggravated murder is a death penalty eligible charge in Utah.

As usual, I’ll continue to update as more information comes in.

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  • solange822001

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

  • solange822001

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

  • solange822001

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

  • solange822001

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

  • solange822001

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

  • solange822001

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • Kathy

    :( Even though my 6 year old looks nothing like this little girl, I see that pic and am instantly reminded of her.

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    I know, Kathy. When I started writing this I didn’t even know it was five guys, and now my coffee just isn’t working. I’m hopeful that it wasn’t all five of them – is it horrible that to me, being raped and killed by two or three guys might have been better? This is like Rowan Ford horrid.

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

  • Hippiepoet

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

    Agree the visions in my mind are sickening. My god…..reminds me of Rowan and what the fuck those animals did to her.

    And I agree with ya Solange, that is too young to be left to “walk it off”. What a horrible, horrible incident. My god, that family must be devastated.

  • Hippiepoet

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

    Agree the visions in my mind are sickening. My god…..reminds me of Rowan and what the fuck those animals did to her.

    And I agree with ya Solange, that is too young to be left to “walk it off”. What a horrible, horrible incident. My god, that family must be devastated.

  • Hippiepoet

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

    Agree the visions in my mind are sickening. My god…..reminds me of Rowan and what the fuck those animals did to her.

    And I agree with ya Solange, that is too young to be left to “walk it off”. What a horrible, horrible incident. My god, that family must be devastated.

  • Hippiepoet

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

    Agree the visions in my mind are sickening. My god…..reminds me of Rowan and what the fuck those animals did to her.

    And I agree with ya Solange, that is too young to be left to “walk it off”. What a horrible, horrible incident. My god, that family must be devastated.

  • Hippiepoet

    I don’t think I can listen to the details of this little girl’s death. FIVE grown men? Fuck! I can’t even wrap my mind around it. I’ve gotten numb to most of the stories on this site, but this one is going to haunt me.

    Agree the visions in my mind are sickening. My god…..reminds me of Rowan and what the fuck those animals did to her.

    And I agree with ya Solange, that is too young to be left to “walk it off”. What a horrible, horrible incident. My god, that family must be devastated.

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • sherrz

    This is horrible, I feel awful for the father. Maybe he just should have said to just walk it off around the front or back yard so he could still see her, but you never really think about the bad things until they happen..

    I hope those 5 guys feel like shit for what they did to that sweet little girl, I don’t see what kind of kicks adults get out of attacking little kids…

  • mom of 4

    :( What the fuck is wrong with people? 5 Guys sitting around an apartment in the middle of the afternoon doing God knows what and not one of them thought it was a bad idea? Sick bastards!

  • mom of 4

    :( What the fuck is wrong with people? 5 Guys sitting around an apartment in the middle of the afternoon doing God knows what and not one of them thought it was a bad idea? Sick bastards!

  • mom of 4

    :( What the fuck is wrong with people? 5 Guys sitting around an apartment in the middle of the afternoon doing God knows what and not one of them thought it was a bad idea? Sick bastards!

  • mom of 4

    :( What the fuck is wrong with people? 5 Guys sitting around an apartment in the middle of the afternoon doing God knows what and not one of them thought it was a bad idea? Sick bastards!

  • mom of 4

    :( What the fuck is wrong with people? 5 Guys sitting around an apartment in the middle of the afternoon doing God knows what and not one of them thought it was a bad idea? Sick bastards!

  • mom of 4

    :( What the fuck is wrong with people? 5 Guys sitting around an apartment in the middle of the afternoon doing God knows what and not one of them thought it was a bad idea? Sick bastards!

  • Miss. Hill

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

    I agree my son will be 12 next month last summer was the first summer I let him go to the park ( at corner of street) with his friends and the bus stop alone. We live in a good suburban neighborhood but I just don’t trust people!

    I feel so bad For the family! 7 should be old enough to play outside your own house but there are to many sick fucks!

  • Miss. Hill

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

    I agree my son will be 12 next month last summer was the first summer I let him go to the park ( at corner of street) with his friends and the bus stop alone. We live in a good suburban neighborhood but I just don’t trust people!

    I feel so bad For the family! 7 should be old enough to play outside your own house but there are to many sick fucks!

  • Miss. Hill

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

    I agree my son will be 12 next month last summer was the first summer I let him go to the park ( at corner of street) with his friends and the bus stop alone. We live in a good suburban neighborhood but I just don’t trust people!

    I feel so bad For the family! 7 should be old enough to play outside your own house but there are to many sick fucks!

  • Miss. Hill

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

    I agree my son will be 12 next month last summer was the first summer I let him go to the park ( at corner of street) with his friends and the bus stop alone. We live in a good suburban neighborhood but I just don’t trust people!

    I feel so bad For the family! 7 should be old enough to play outside your own house but there are to many sick fucks!

  • Miss. Hill

    My son is 7 years old. I would not let my child out of my apartment to walk around alone. I know that a lot of parents feel like Im being over-protective, but why would you take that chance??? 7 years old??? Please people, keep an eye on your kids for christ’s sake!

    I agree my son will be 12 next month last summer was the first summer I let him go to the park ( at corner of street) with his friends and the bus stop alone. We live in a good suburban neighborhood but I just don’t trust people!

    I feel so bad For the family! 7 should be old enough to play outside your own house but there are to many sick fucks!

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • http://www.myspace.com/_what_would_satan_do_ What Would Satan Do

    I hope they didn’t make her suffer long, is all. You know her father is just killing himself for not going after her. He seems like a decent guy, and Hser was his only daughter.

    That would haunt me the rest of my life
    “If I’d only gone with her”

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • mom of 4

    That would haunt me the rest of my life“If I’d only gone with her”

    Me too Satan. Although at 7 I would have never let her go off alone I am sure it will haunt him. Her brother is probably feeling bad about the fight they had too. :(

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • WryBread

    I agree w/ solange. That is too young to be allowed to “stalk off.” But these people are from a different culture. Who knows?

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    This post isn’t meant to comment on Asian child-rearing practices in general; I don’t have a clue about them.

  • michelle

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    I can remember a time when I was a kid acting up at the grocery store with my mom. She walked away from me and my temper tantrum. Well it certainly knocked me out of my fit when I saw her gone. Times have a changed.

  • michelle

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    I can remember a time when I was a kid acting up at the grocery store with my mom. She walked away from me and my temper tantrum. Well it certainly knocked me out of my fit when I saw her gone. Times have a changed.

  • michelle

    I wondered at the time if this was a cultural practice. A tough love that may work in a smaller town or village, but can be fatal in the city. I wondered if the mother really cared if her kid disappeared. She sure showed no sign of it.

    I can remember a time when I was a kid acting up at the grocery store with my mom. She walked away from me and my temper tantrum. Well it certainly knocked me out of my fit when I saw her gone. Times have a changed.

  • Athena

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Perhaps I should begin asking every single child who appears to be under the age of 8 where their parents are, because, if they’re not in a direct line of vision, I’m totally calling CPS.

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

  • Athena

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Perhaps I should begin asking every single child who appears to be under the age of 8 where their parents are, because, if they’re not in a direct line of vision, I’m totally calling CPS.

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Thing is, she was walking inside her own apartment complex. I know it’s a big complex, but she didn’t get very far. For all practical purposes, Hser was indeed snatched from her front yard. In Utah, where I figured the worst would be that some dude tried to tell her God wanted him to marry her and make her a sister wife.

  • Kathy

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Even when my child is not in my line of sight, I know exactly where she is. 7 is really young. A 7 year old girl who barely speaks the language wandering in an apartment complex is a totally different thing. Especially one as large as this one sounds. There are many nooks and crannies and people who move in and out of those places.

    A neighborhood made up of mostly homeowners who have long term ties to the area is different. You parents probably felt safe letting you ride your bike or play out of their line of vision because they felt somewhat comfortable with their neighbors.

  • Kathy

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Even when my child is not in my line of sight, I know exactly where she is. 7 is really young. A 7 year old girl who barely speaks the language wandering in an apartment complex is a totally different thing. Especially one as large as this one sounds. There are many nooks and crannies and people who move in and out of those places.

    A neighborhood made up of mostly homeowners who have long term ties to the area is different. You parents probably felt safe letting you ride your bike or play out of their line of vision because they felt somewhat comfortable with their neighbors.

  • Kathy

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Even when my child is not in my line of sight, I know exactly where she is. 7 is really young. A 7 year old girl who barely speaks the language wandering in an apartment complex is a totally different thing. Especially one as large as this one sounds. There are many nooks and crannies and people who move in and out of those places.

    A neighborhood made up of mostly homeowners who have long term ties to the area is different. You parents probably felt safe letting you ride your bike or play out of their line of vision because they felt somewhat comfortable with their neighbors.

  • Kathy

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Even when my child is not in my line of sight, I know exactly where she is. 7 is really young. A 7 year old girl who barely speaks the language wandering in an apartment complex is a totally different thing. Especially one as large as this one sounds. There are many nooks and crannies and people who move in and out of those places.

    A neighborhood made up of mostly homeowners who have long term ties to the area is different. You parents probably felt safe letting you ride your bike or play out of their line of vision because they felt somewhat comfortable with their neighbors.

  • Kathy

    I feel genuinely sorry for children who are restricted to their back yards like dogs. Kids can be snatched out of back yards, too, you know…and what you think you’re gaining for your child in safety by keeping them under lock and key, you’re sacrificing in life experience.

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Even when my child is not in my line of sight, I know exactly where she is. 7 is really young. A 7 year old girl who barely speaks the language wandering in an apartment complex is a totally different thing. Especially one as large as this one sounds. There are many nooks and crannies and people who move in and out of those places.

    A neighborhood made up of mostly homeowners who have long term ties to the area is different. You parents probably felt safe letting you ride your bike or play out of their line of vision because they felt somewhat comfortable with their neighbors.

  • Anonymous

    Poor little girl, what a horrible ordeal she must have had.

  • Anonymous

    Poor little girl, what a horrible ordeal she must have had.

  • Anonymous

    Poor little girl, what a horrible ordeal she must have had.

  • Anonymous

    Poor little girl, what a horrible ordeal she must have had.

  • GoldenChild20k

    Poor little girl, what a horrible ordeal she must have had.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • mom of 4

    Should I hate my parents right now for letting me walk or ride my bike around the neighborhood at that age? I mean, it sounds like they were being wildly irresponsible, based on some of the comments, here.

    Times have changed since we were kids though Athena. I think as a parent you have to consider many factors when choosing if your kids are old enough to safely walk out the door alone to go wherever they please. I agree at some point you have to cut the cord and give them some freedom but every kid has a different set of circumstances to consider. Is the neighborhood safe? Thats my number 1 consideration. They also have only lived in the US for a year so who knows if she could speak english if she needed to ask for help for whatever reason. How well did she know the neighborhood? Well enough to find her way home if she ventured too far? Is she aware of the “don’t talk to strangers” concept?

    I am not blaming the parents for what happened to her at all. I’m just saying there is much to consider when deciding at what age you give them more freedom and also how much more freedom.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Athena

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I also agree that there are many things to consider. I’m not addressing that, however, because if she knows English well enough to ask for help or knows not to talk to strangers is pure speculation. I’m addressing the blanket statement of “6 is too young to walk it off” that has been echoed throughout these posts.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • Kathy

    I don’t think it is exaggerated at all. Athena, you should know as well as anyone here that many people who come to this website have been touched by tragedy in their lives one way or another. So before many of us read about it here, or anywhere else, we have experienced it.

    Times have changed in that we don’t know our neighbors as well as we used to. And the crime rates you speak of, are they specifically for crimes against children? And if they are, have you entertained the thought that maybe they have gone down because parents have become more protective of their children?

    Again, I will do what it takes to keep my child safe and healthy. Maybe this girl did roam the apartment complex alone all the time. Maybe that is what made her a target. The perpetrators might have known that she was allowed out alone and people would not be concerned with her being missing for quite some time.

    Sorry. I have a 6 year old. I have observed her friends who are also the same ages. I don’t know many that would be allowed to wander off alone. Many are allowed past their front yards, but only in the company of a much older sibling.

    I am in no way putting the blame on the parents though. No one had a right to murder their child, even if we feel their judgment may have been a little off.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • mom of 4

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    LOL My bad, as I just realized I assumed you were the same age as me. :) Crime is up since I was 7 and crimes against children are up even more.

    Unfortunately my perspective of the world comes from working for the CAS (CPS for you) and now dealing with troubled teens. I see the worst of the worst for a living.

    I agree that a 6 year old should not have total and complete freedom, obviously. But to say that she’s too young to take a stroll in her own apartment complex? An apartment complex that she’s probably strolled around on numerous occasions? That strikes me as draconian.

    I have no idea what kind of neighborhood they lived in. From the story it says her father asked where she was planning to go and she did not answer him. I can’t assume her intentions were to stay within the complex.

    Either way, it seems it was not OK for her to be out wandering on her own in light of what happened. Again, I am not blaming the parents. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the 5 asshats in that apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    7 IS too young to be allowed to walk off on your own, IMO.

    My oldest is 6 1/2 years old. I have never let her even go in the backyard alone. I may be over protective but I will be damned if she ends up being kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered or just disappears & I have to live the rest of my life in misery & guilt without her.

    I am 29 but when I was growing up I was allowed to go around alone in stores, walk around my neighborhood for hours alone, etc. I just had to be home when the street lights came on at night. Times have definitely changed. Crimes rates have gone down? Where? Not where I live that’s for sure.

    While it is sad that we have to live this way I would feel a hell of a lot worse knowing my child was murdered because I gave her some extra freedom that allowed some sick fuck to snuff out the light of my life.

    That said I don’t blame the parents. Hindsight is 20/20 so I am sure that Dad feels awful. But she is gone because of those men.

    After having a child I understand that saying it takes a village to raise a child these days it’s too bad we can’t trust our neighbors to keep a watchful eye out for our children. Instead we have to worry they are waiting to molest & kill them.

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • sherrz

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger. When I was between the ages of 7-9 (now mind you, I’m not that old now — I’m 22) it was no big deal for my parents to say it was okay to play in the backyard or on the sidewalk in front of my house until the street lights came on.

    Once my daughter is that age (she’ll be 1 on the 12th) I can’t even imagine what things will be like then, as far as child crimes and just regular crimes period.

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • mom of 4

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome Sherrz! :)

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Athena

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm

    Teens and young adults suffer the highest rates of victimization, but even those are down significantly since 1973, when they began recording this kind of data.

    Bottom line – you are significantly less likely to be victimized now than you were in ’73 or ’83 or even ’93.

    Is it because parents are being more protective? I can’t say. I don’t know that most parents ARE being more protective. I’d say it likely has more to do with incarceration rates and law enforcement, myself.

    I currently live in a big apartment complex and I’m always seeing young kids hanging around. I got accosed by one just yesterday who I had to teach how to approach a dog. He couldn’t have been older than 7, and he rushed my dog trying to pet her. I had to explain how one should never approach a strange dog quickly and should instead calmly hold a hand out to the dog so that it can smell him. When it starts wagging his tail, he’s probably okay to pet it. He followed directions well, then shook me down for some of the gum I was chewing.

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

  • Unamused Cat

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  • Athena

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger.

    First off, welcome, Sherrz! :)

    As to your comment, of course it depends on your specific municipality. I was talking national crime rates. In specific areas, crime rates fluctuate. I live in Seattle and there aren’t many major cities in America with lower crime rates. Salt Lake City’s violent crime rate is not substantially higher than Seattle’s.

    If you live in Atlanta or D.C. or Oakland or something, obviously, your experience will be a bit different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  • Athena

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger.

    First off, welcome, Sherrz! :)

    As to your comment, of course it depends on your specific municipality. I was talking national crime rates. In specific areas, crime rates fluctuate. I live in Seattle and there aren’t many major cities in America with lower crime rates. Salt Lake City’s violent crime rate is not substantially higher than Seattle’s.

    If you live in Atlanta or D.C. or Oakland or something, obviously, your experience will be a bit different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  • Athena

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger.

    First off, welcome, Sherrz! :)

    As to your comment, of course it depends on your specific municipality. I was talking national crime rates. In specific areas, crime rates fluctuate. I live in Seattle and there aren’t many major cities in America with lower crime rates. Salt Lake City’s violent crime rate is not substantially higher than Seattle’s.

    If you live in Atlanta or D.C. or Oakland or something, obviously, your experience will be a bit different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  • Athena

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger.

    First off, welcome, Sherrz! :)

    As to your comment, of course it depends on your specific municipality. I was talking national crime rates. In specific areas, crime rates fluctuate. I live in Seattle and there aren’t many major cities in America with lower crime rates. Salt Lake City’s violent crime rate is not substantially higher than Seattle’s.

    If you live in Atlanta or D.C. or Oakland or something, obviously, your experience will be a bit different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  • Athena

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger.

    First off, welcome, Sherrz! :)

    As to your comment, of course it depends on your specific municipality. I was talking national crime rates. In specific areas, crime rates fluctuate. I live in Seattle and there aren’t many major cities in America with lower crime rates. Salt Lake City’s violent crime rate is not substantially higher than Seattle’s.

    If you live in Atlanta or D.C. or Oakland or something, obviously, your experience will be a bit different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  • Athena

    hahaha I don’t know where you are living, but where I live, times have DEFINITELY changed. Our crime rate has almost tripled since I was younger.

    First off, welcome, Sherrz! :)

    As to your comment, of course it depends on your specific municipality. I was talking national crime rates. In specific areas, crime rates fluctuate. I live in Seattle and there aren’t many major cities in America with lower crime rates. Salt Lake City’s violent crime rate is not substantially higher than Seattle’s.

    If you live in Atlanta or D.C. or Oakland or something, obviously, your experience will be a bit different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • Kathy

    I realize that I may be pretty severely biased. The kids on my block who weren’t allowed the freedom I was hit 18 like a brick wall. I’d just hate to think parents are crippling their children because they read stories like these and think that it’s more common than it is.

    I don’t plan on keeping my child chained up in the backyard forever. Just a little bit longer. ;)
    I was sheltered to a certain extent. I was not allowed to leave our yard, etc. I was not allowed to spend the night at friends houses until I was 16! But I had a job and could participate in school activities. 3 months after I turned 18, I was out of my house completely on my own. I knew about the world. My parents exposed me to it in different ways.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • mom of 4

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    SOUTH SALT LAKE, Utah — Police say a man admitted causing the death of a seven-year-old girl who disappeared at her apartment complex in South Salt Lake.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • Athena

    I’m definitely not saying that may way is the only one that will work. Obviously, you did just fine, Kathy. However, some kids benefit from experience and not everyone has parents who find other ways to familiarize their kids with the world.

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    On another note – I think it’s interesting that people say “it’s a shame we can’t trust our neighbors” and restrict their children…as opposed to getting to know the neighbors. :)

    ^^^Yikes. That’s one neighbor I wouldn’t want to get to know.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    Article updated, so far. I’m glad it’s only the one guy… I hope there aren’t more. I’m still betting on sexual assault. That poor little girl.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    More about Hser’s family, from this link: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8779273

    Hser’s mother gave birth to a baby boy three weeks ago.

    From the article:

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    More about Hser’s family, from this link: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8779273

    Hser’s mother gave birth to a baby boy three weeks ago.

    From the article:

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    More about Hser’s family, from this link: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8779273

    Hser’s mother gave birth to a baby boy three weeks ago.

    From the article:

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    More about Hser’s family, from this link: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8779273

    Hser’s mother gave birth to a baby boy three weeks ago.

    From the article:

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • Angel

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hi, Sherrz, and welcome to the internet version of Bellevue! Where the only difference between the sane and the crazy, is that the sane ones come here to post because they want to, and the crazies are thrown onto the front page whether they like it or not! And sometimes even that is not an accurate indicator. I come here on my own and because I like it here, and I’m one of the meanest, craziest bitches I know. When I’m not being a sweet Angel, that is…….So, does that make me schizophrenic, too? ;-)

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    I saw something once that I have never forgotten. An Asian mother was yelling in some language at her toddler on the sidewalk in Philadelphia. She then turned and walked away from the kid. Not just in a straight line, but turned a corner and went out of sight, never looking back, never saying anything more. And she was still walking away when the kid finally got up and ran screaming after her.

    This reminds me of one time, I was so disgusted by this. I was at Publix and there was this little 3 year old walking around alone, crying. I told him to follow me to the front to see if we could talk to the manager to find his mom, and when we get to the front, the mom is standing around and motions for the kid to come. She was acting completely nonchalant. She was at the other side of the store from where the kid was found. It appears to me that she decided to be a bitch because he was crying and just leave him, probably to scare him. I wanted to slap her. Why would you do that to a poor scared little kid? Mind you, maybe she felt that she could see the exit so no one could walk off with him, but how scary is that for a toddler to not be able to find their mom?

  • solange822001

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Yeah, I know we have had this discussion before Athena, but I still disagree. In an apartment complex, it’s not the same as your own front yard. In my front yard, there arent a bunch of strangers in there all the time. In a complex, it’s easy for anyone to snatch your kid up and take them inside their apartment, and you wouldnt know anything until its too late. My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion

  • solange822001

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Yeah, I know we have had this discussion before Athena, but I still disagree. In an apartment complex, it’s not the same as your own front yard. In my front yard, there arent a bunch of strangers in there all the time. In a complex, it’s easy for anyone to snatch your kid up and take them inside their apartment, and you wouldnt know anything until its too late. My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion

  • solange822001

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Yeah, I know we have had this discussion before Athena, but I still disagree. In an apartment complex, it’s not the same as your own front yard. In my front yard, there arent a bunch of strangers in there all the time. In a complex, it’s easy for anyone to snatch your kid up and take them inside their apartment, and you wouldnt know anything until its too late. My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion

  • solange822001

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Yeah, I know we have had this discussion before Athena, but I still disagree. In an apartment complex, it’s not the same as your own front yard. In my front yard, there arent a bunch of strangers in there all the time. In a complex, it’s easy for anyone to snatch your kid up and take them inside their apartment, and you wouldnt know anything until its too late. My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion

  • solange822001

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Yeah, I know we have had this discussion before Athena, but I still disagree. In an apartment complex, it’s not the same as your own front yard. In my front yard, there arent a bunch of strangers in there all the time. In a complex, it’s easy for anyone to snatch your kid up and take them inside their apartment, and you wouldnt know anything until its too late. My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion

  • solange822001

    Sorry Athena, I’d rather be accused of being overprotective than have a dead or hurt child. I know you aren’t that old, but the world has changed alot in the past few years. Kids can get life experience without being free to roam the neighborhood at their own discretion.

    Yeah, I know we have had this discussion before Athena, but I still disagree. In an apartment complex, it’s not the same as your own front yard. In my front yard, there arent a bunch of strangers in there all the time. In a complex, it’s easy for anyone to snatch your kid up and take them inside their apartment, and you wouldnt know anything until its too late. My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Welcome, Sherrz! :)

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • solange822001

    Let me also add that when I was 7, I had a lot of freedom as well. But the neighborhood was quiet, we knew all our neighbors, etc. It doesnt mean that nothing could happen, but the chances of it happening are a lot less that walking around apartments where a bunch of strangers move in and out all the time. And I am not trying to blame the parents, I’m sure they thought they were doing the best they can, god bless them. I just think that nowadays we need to be more careful

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I’m somewhat new to this site as far as commenting (been reading for quite some time but never commented), so I’d just like to say hello to everyone as well

    Hello and welcome.

    ” The family of slain 7-year-old Hser Nay Moo fled an authoritarian regime in Burma and spent 20 years as refugees in a camp in Thailand before arriving in Utah last summer. More than 2 million Burmese, primarily ethnic minorities, have left since military leaders seized the impoverished country, now called Myanmar, in the 1980s, according to Human Rights Watch.”

    Ain’t that just a bitch. Live through all of that bullshit to have this happen.

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Athena

    My kid isnt going to be traumatized because I dont let him wander around the neighborhood at 7 years old. Just my opinion.

    And a very valid opinion. Certainly, one instance of borderline hyperprotective parenting will not damage a child. But how often is it an isolated policy? Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18. I’m just trying to present an opposing view point for the peanut gallery, so they don’t feel compelled to raise sheltered little freaks simply because their peers are making blanket statements about what is appropriate for other peoples’ children.

    You know, just stirrin’ the pot. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • Kathy

    I just think about the little boy who I interacted with yesterday. Based on some people’s initial comments, he was too young to be doing what he was doing. I just don’t think that’s the case.

    Oh, I definitely would have beaten my duaghter for talking to you outside our home. But it would be for her own good. Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Geez, yeah. Impspawn II walked in the house not long ago and did this perfect deadpan Cartman impression: “Would you like to suck my BALLS, Mister Garrison?”

    He got upset when I flipped out and started in with the “Oh no you didn’t”s. His father had to come in and explain exactly what that question meant. Turns out a junior high kid on his bus had the .mp3 of that quote on his cell phone, and Impspawn heard everyone laughing and did the impression on the bus, and everyone told him how cool and awesome he was, and he thought I’d appreciate his cool awesomeness.

    Oops. ;)

  • Athena

    Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Hey! I had just gotten home from work. I was wearing a black, knitted poncho, jeans, some ballerina shoes and my A|X sunglasses. :p

    You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Based on that sentence alone, I hearby nominate you for the Parent of the Year award. Seriously. No sarcasm. :)

  • Athena

    Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Hey! I had just gotten home from work. I was wearing a black, knitted poncho, jeans, some ballerina shoes and my A|X sunglasses. :p

    You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Based on that sentence alone, I hearby nominate you for the Parent of the Year award. Seriously. No sarcasm. :)

  • Athena

    Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Hey! I had just gotten home from work. I was wearing a black, knitted poncho, jeans, some ballerina shoes and my A|X sunglasses. :p

    You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Based on that sentence alone, I hearby nominate you for the Parent of the Year award. Seriously. No sarcasm. :)

  • Athena

    Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Hey! I had just gotten home from work. I was wearing a black, knitted poncho, jeans, some ballerina shoes and my A|X sunglasses. :p

    You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Based on that sentence alone, I hearby nominate you for the Parent of the Year award. Seriously. No sarcasm. :)

  • Athena

    Everyone knows that punk people are DANGEROUS. :p

    Hey! I had just gotten home from work. I was wearing a black, knitted poncho, jeans, some ballerina shoes and my A|X sunglasses. :p

    You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Based on that sentence alone, I hearby nominate you for the Parent of the Year award. Seriously. No sarcasm. :)

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • cld79

    Growing up we knew all of our neighbors. Now today I know maybe 3-4 families on my street. I have seen most of the people on my loop but not even all of them.
    My 7 year old is only allowed to stay w/his 10 year old brother and go up the street, about 4 houses up and play with some other kids. Most of the time he stays home and plays video games, sad to say. I at least know where he is. He is not allowed to roam free outside by himself at all. He will talk to anyone. He once stopped a car driving by and asked them if the ice cream man was up the street. I was watching out the window as he was walking home from the neighbors (we always call to tell each other when our kids leave), but he got into a lot of trouble for that.

    My 10 year old is allowed to go over to his friends houses on the street and play out front. They all basically stay out front. My husband says I scare him when I tell him about getting kidnapped and such but you can never be too careful.

    We do have one neighbor who never watches her kid. She will wait till the last possible minute to call and ask if he is over my house. When I say he has not been here all day, she has actually said “where is he then?”. One time he was in a man’s house in another development looking at his cat. She still then did not look for her child and asked us to since her husband was out and her 3 year old was home w/her. So me with my two older children, mind you I do have a 1 year old walked around with another neighbor and looked for him. I always say something bad is going to happen to him for wandering around all of the time. Their whole story is another story in itself.

    This case is very sad. I am sure the Dad will live with letting her walk alone for the rest of his life.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • Angel

    Often enough, the same parents saying these things are the ones who don’t let their kids watch anything but Disney movies until they’re 18.

    Whew! You weren’t talking about me. My daughter watches South Park and Family guy.

    Me, either, We don’t have cable or dish, so no Disney channel. Also no South Park or Family Guy either, tho. However, I do let my 14-yr-old watch all of the CSI and other crime shows with me when I watch them, and Baby, that ain’t anything like fuckin’ Disney. LOL.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mg2

    not much on it but here is the probable cause statement

    http://media.myfoxutah.com/pdf/ProbableCauseStatement.pdf

    I have also read that there will be a news brief late this afternoon.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8782804?source=rv

    The article says the suspect & the girl’s family all immigrated from the same Burmese camp. It goes on to say that Hser Nay Moo & other children often played in the suspect’s apartment.

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • mg2

    This news article says that the family knew the men they were either relatives or friends…

    Also, one of the men that was been arrested assisted in the search earlier that day.

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=57732b20-6890-4b69-828a-ced2b57b9165

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    One interesting thing on the probable cause statement is that it lists the date and time of the offense as 1600 (4:00 p.m.), 3/31/08. So Hser was taken and probably killed well within the three-hour window, and before her brothers even got home to search for her.

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • TalkingJesus

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    I didn’t want to be mean to this poor grieving family, but I kind of laughed. Then I hit myself twenty times with a rope whip and said ten Hail Marys, repented, and laughed again. I might go to Hell – again – for this, but Disco Moo? Cartoon? Are they Zappas?

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    Times have changed? Yeah! Crime rates have gone DOWN. :p Some times, I think this website potentially poisons parents, giving them an exaggerated perspective of what is going on in the world.

    Um..Where do YOU live, Athena? Because I’m quite positive that crime in my area has gone UP since I was a child growing up here. We have 10 times as many people, and 90 percent of them are “replants” or transients. My kids DO NOT PLAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME. I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    I remember my parents telling me to be home by the time the street lights had come on, and it was true for so many of us. But times are not better. They’re worse, and even if you live in a rural area, by the significant amount of stories on this site, NO PLACE is safe anymore.

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • cherrykint76

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • sherrz

    I have an 8 year old daughter, whom I’ve scared with enough information about what is really happening to these poor children. I did it with the intention of making her more aware of her surroundings, and to understand why we have scheduled play times, and why she can’t just “ride her bike down the street.”

    Now, this is just my opinion, but I don’t necessairily (sp?) think that it’s a good idea to scare your children so bad that they don’t want to go outside and play unless you’re there. Once they reach a reasonable age it’s okay to let them play outside by themselves (just as long as you know where they’re at), but you shouldn’t scare them so bad with all these stories that they’re so terrified to even leave their house unless you’re with them.

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I also mentioned that this may not be true for individual municipalities. Areas like D.C., Oakland and New Orleans, for example, have seen increased crime rates. Now, if you can’t even feel comfortable sending your kids outside without you (much less down the street), might I suggest you get up out of the hood?

    Oh, and as to your claim that rural areas aren’t even safe anymore…Bullshit. The odds of being victimized in most rural areas in this country are INSANELY low, practically non-existant. *Can* bad things happen anywhere? Absolutely. Hell, kids *can* get snatched right out of their own bedrooms. Does that mean they share a room with you? At the end of the day, the odds that your child will be victimized today are, in most places, lower today than they were 20 years ago.

    All that being said, hi, Cherry…Nice to see you. If no one’s said it yet, welcome to D’D. :)

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • sherrz

    Oh, and Athena, I apologize if my comment earlier (when I quoted one of your earlier posts) made it seem like I was trying to have a go at you, I didn’t know you were talking about national statistics.

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • mom of 4

    I have a dumb question. Do Myanmar/Burmese immigrants Americanize their names or are they just translated directly? I’m asking because Hser’s father’s name is Cartoon, and one of the family members or neighbors in a report was named Disco Moo, I shit you not.

    ROFLMAO Oh thanks Jesus…..I had not put the plastic in my monitor and keyboard yet! Luckily I am drinking water so it isn’t all sticky from me spewing it all over! :)

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • cherrykint76

    Athena, while numbers may seem sound and comforting to you, I don’t believe you are taking into consideration all types of victimization. It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    If you DO have children, you’re in for a rude awakening. And hopefully, nothing more than a reality check. I would never wish something as terrible as this mentioned crime or any other on ANY family, but it happens because people are so arrogantly blasé regarding their children and what they wouldn’t fathom happening to them.

    I also do not live “in the hood” so to speak, but a very affluent community, albeit, over-populated and prone to crime, (although not as much as other parts of this city. ) I’ve read quite a few stories in the past two months on this site from towns I’ve never heard of, that are practically microscopic compared to the city I live in, and the stories are heinous and RAMPANT. You cannot tell me that they’re “one in a million” regardless of your sources. I also cannot simply “move” to another city, due to both my career, and that of my husband’s. While other cities are struggling economically-wise, (and Seattle is included in that list), about the only good thing left about living here is the recession-proof economy, which we take into careful consideration. And keeping my children close to me, and monitoring their lives closely is MY JOB AS A PARENT, regardless of where I live.

    I’ve lived all over the world, and growing up, my parents travelled for their careers. From Toronto Canada (the actual SAFEST place I’ve ever been) to Los Angeles CA, and I can tell you that the freaks are everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you go, and it’s up to THE PARENT to make sure their kids are safe. Risking their safety for “life experience” is overrated, and not worth it, in my opinion.

  • mom of 4

    btw – I’m a classic lurker, and I peek my head in at random times (when incensed or due to a nasty case of PMS) – I love this site, however. Virtually everyone on it has the same viewpoints as I do, and it’s a relief to not have to defend my idea of “fair punishment” for the scum of the earth (pedophiles). So yeah, hi. I’m also quite new. :X

    Welcome Cherry :) Glad you decided to come out from lurking!

  • cherrykint76

    And hi back. I appreciate the welcome ;)

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • Athena

    Sherrz – No need for an apology, ma. I understand that my view points are often unpopular and take no offense when someone responds a bit, um…enthusiastically to something I have to say. I don’t require kid gloves, but I do appreciate the sentiment. ;)

    Cherry – How am I supposed to have a rational conversation with an individual who essentially says, straight out, “the facts don’t matter to me – I’m going base my opinions off emotion and the frequency of articles posted on a site dedicated to true crime”? Look, if you don’t care about the facts, that’s fine. You may as well plug your ears and say “lalalalala”, though.

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D's favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    A parent is absolutely responsible for their child’s safety. But if you feel that you need to physically with your child in order to ensure that, it speaks to paranoia, in my opinion. Again, if D’D posted a rash of stories about children being abducted from their bedrooms, would you insist on them sleeping with you going forward? Just how much supervision is REASONABLE? People may think life experience is trumped by safety, but the truth is, common ground can be found and should be, because life experience is vital.

    Also, your comment about the economics in Seattle simply verifies to me that fact may not be your strongsuit. In recent months, Seattle placed 7th on Forbes’ list of Best Cities for Young Professionals and, as recently as this last week, placed 20th on Forbes’ list for Best Places for Business and Careers. I doubt those slots are awarded to cities with struggling economies, but hey, what do I know?

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • cld79

    I can see both sides to this issue. While I am not going to allow my 7 year old out alone anytime soon, I do see how parents can get carried away with unreasonable fears. My Mother had plenty of them and they carried on to me. I could see myself sleeping with the kids if there was a rash of child abductions. Not healthy.

    Fact is you are more likely to be hurt by someone you know and trust than by a total stranger. So the person who “could” hurt your child might be someone that you allow to be alone with. Seems even with this case, this man was known by the child. Maybe, he can considered a “safe” to the child and family?
    What it all comes down to is you just never know. Our lives are not predetermined we can only prepare ourselves for what “might” happen, not what will. So just when you think everything is safe and planned, you get thrown a curve ball.

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Angel

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! Sorry about the oversight. :-)

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Athena

    Weak. We can’t post pictures from Photobucket here? It showed up in the preview…Lemme try again…

    Here’s a D’D-appropriate welcome for you, CDL:

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

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  • Angel

    Athena, the image you posted above is not showing up on my thread. It’s just a box…….

  • cherrykint76

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D’s favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    And as far as the economy goes, I’ve friends in your neck of the woods, and although Seattle is a very expensive place to live, people are struggling with the economy there, more so than they are struggling here. I did not say it was as bad as certain parts of the country, but we have the benefit of a tourist economy, which helps ride out the ups and downs of this ridiculous financial weather we’ve been experiencing.

    Also, we’ve considered moving there (although the weather would make me suicidal), and the payscale is significant less for our career choices. Which is much the same for the rest of the country, (with the exception of Louiville, Colorado and Austin, Texas). Well, truth be told, I get paid peanuts no matter where I go.

    I’m digressing. And really, we both know that it doesn’t matter to either one of us if we disagree on how I raise my children, (or other people on this forum, for that matter.) The point is, you’re never more than a minute away from the box anyway. And death is only hard for the living. So if my child feels the need to whine in therapy about how I “smothered her need for life experience and adventure”, then I’ll take responsibility for that. At least I did what I could to make sure she has the opportunity.

  • cherrykint76

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D’s favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    And as far as the economy goes, I’ve friends in your neck of the woods, and although Seattle is a very expensive place to live, people are struggling with the economy there, more so than they are struggling here. I did not say it was as bad as certain parts of the country, but we have the benefit of a tourist economy, which helps ride out the ups and downs of this ridiculous financial weather we’ve been experiencing.

    Also, we’ve considered moving there (although the weather would make me suicidal), and the payscale is significant less for our career choices. Which is much the same for the rest of the country, (with the exception of Louiville, Colorado and Austin, Texas). Well, truth be told, I get paid peanuts no matter where I go.

    I’m digressing. And really, we both know that it doesn’t matter to either one of us if we disagree on how I raise my children, (or other people on this forum, for that matter.) The point is, you’re never more than a minute away from the box anyway. And death is only hard for the living. So if my child feels the need to whine in therapy about how I “smothered her need for life experience and adventure”, then I’ll take responsibility for that. At least I did what I could to make sure she has the opportunity.

  • cherrykint76

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D’s favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    And as far as the economy goes, I’ve friends in your neck of the woods, and although Seattle is a very expensive place to live, people are struggling with the economy there, more so than they are struggling here. I did not say it was as bad as certain parts of the country, but we have the benefit of a tourist economy, which helps ride out the ups and downs of this ridiculous financial weather we’ve been experiencing.

    Also, we’ve considered moving there (although the weather would make me suicidal), and the payscale is significant less for our career choices. Which is much the same for the rest of the country, (with the exception of Louiville, Colorado and Austin, Texas). Well, truth be told, I get paid peanuts no matter where I go.

    I’m digressing. And really, we both know that it doesn’t matter to either one of us if we disagree on how I raise my children, (or other people on this forum, for that matter.) The point is, you’re never more than a minute away from the box anyway. And death is only hard for the living. So if my child feels the need to whine in therapy about how I “smothered her need for life experience and adventure”, then I’ll take responsibility for that. At least I did what I could to make sure she has the opportunity.

  • cherrykint76

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D’s favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    And as far as the economy goes, I’ve friends in your neck of the woods, and although Seattle is a very expensive place to live, people are struggling with the economy there, more so than they are struggling here. I did not say it was as bad as certain parts of the country, but we have the benefit of a tourist economy, which helps ride out the ups and downs of this ridiculous financial weather we’ve been experiencing.

    Also, we’ve considered moving there (although the weather would make me suicidal), and the payscale is significant less for our career choices. Which is much the same for the rest of the country, (with the exception of Louiville, Colorado and Austin, Texas). Well, truth be told, I get paid peanuts no matter where I go.

    I’m digressing. And really, we both know that it doesn’t matter to either one of us if we disagree on how I raise my children, (or other people on this forum, for that matter.) The point is, you’re never more than a minute away from the box anyway. And death is only hard for the living. So if my child feels the need to whine in therapy about how I “smothered her need for life experience and adventure”, then I’ll take responsibility for that. At least I did what I could to make sure she has the opportunity.

  • cherrykint76

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D’s favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    And as far as the economy goes, I’ve friends in your neck of the woods, and although Seattle is a very expensive place to live, people are struggling with the economy there, more so than they are struggling here. I did not say it was as bad as certain parts of the country, but we have the benefit of a tourist economy, which helps ride out the ups and downs of this ridiculous financial weather we’ve been experiencing.

    Also, we’ve considered moving there (although the weather would make me suicidal), and the payscale is significant less for our career choices. Which is much the same for the rest of the country, (with the exception of Louiville, Colorado and Austin, Texas). Well, truth be told, I get paid peanuts no matter where I go.

    I’m digressing. And really, we both know that it doesn’t matter to either one of us if we disagree on how I raise my children, (or other people on this forum, for that matter.) The point is, you’re never more than a minute away from the box anyway. And death is only hard for the living. So if my child feels the need to whine in therapy about how I “smothered her need for life experience and adventure”, then I’ll take responsibility for that. At least I did what I could to make sure she has the opportunity.

  • cherrykint76

    And the whole “you don’t have children, so you couldn’t possibly understand”…If only I could collect money every time someone here has tried to use that against me around here. You’re right, I’m D’D’s favorite childless poster. But don’t let that fool you – I put in several years as the legal guardian of someone else’s kid. Believe it or not, no “reality checks”.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    And as far as the economy goes, I’ve friends in your neck of the woods, and although Seattle is a very expensive place to live, people are struggling with the economy there, more so than they are struggling here. I did not say it was as bad as certain parts of the country, but we have the benefit of a tourist economy, which helps ride out the ups and downs of this ridiculous financial weather we’ve been experiencing.

    Also, we’ve considered moving there (although the weather would make me suicidal), and the payscale is significant less for our career choices. Which is much the same for the rest of the country, (with the exception of Louiville, Colorado and Austin, Texas). Well, truth be told, I get paid peanuts no matter where I go.

    I’m digressing. And really, we both know that it doesn’t matter to either one of us if we disagree on how I raise my children, (or other people on this forum, for that matter.) The point is, you’re never more than a minute away from the box anyway. And death is only hard for the living. So if my child feels the need to whine in therapy about how I “smothered her need for life experience and adventure”, then I’ll take responsibility for that. At least I did what I could to make sure she has the opportunity.

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • cherrykint76

    Hi CLD79 – welcome from a newbie. :)

    Athena – please don’t think that I disrespect your opinions, althought I heartily disagree with them. I appreciate the VERY well-written difference of opinion. It’s great food-for-thought! Thank you!

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • mom of 4

    Oh and BTW, I am purrreetty freakin’ pissed that I never got a welcome.

    Welcome CLD 79!! Glad to have you posting. :)

  • Angel

    The pic showed up, Athena. Thanks for fixing it.

    Oh, and Hahahahahahahaha! Freakin’ hilarious!

  • Angel

    The pic showed up, Athena. Thanks for fixing it.

    Oh, and Hahahahahahahaha! Freakin’ hilarious!

  • Angel

    The pic showed up, Athena. Thanks for fixing it.

    Oh, and Hahahahahahahaha! Freakin’ hilarious!

  • Angel

    The pic showed up, Athena. Thanks for fixing it.

    Oh, and Hahahahahahahaha! Freakin’ hilarious!

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • cld79

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring? Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Lizard

    Thank you all for the welcomes. I just wanted to make sure I was not annoying anyone with my posts. Sometimes, I can be redundant and dare I say boring?

    We would never tell you if we thought you were being annoying, redundant, and/or boring! Never! No, it wouldn’t happen!

    I’m lying out my ass. Hope you’re not too thin-skinned! ;)

    Welcome!

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • Athena

    Cherry – No, having your own children does not grant you any super powers or 6th sense. I’m glad you stated that your disagreement was subjective, however. Everything you’ve written thus far is subjective, right down to your “I have friends there” assessment of the economy in other cities, and I’m glad you can admit to that. ;)

    Look – Being overprotective is to parenting as abstinence-only education is to sex. Not only has it been proven ineffective (like someone mentioned, you’re more likely to be victimized by someone you know and trust), it’s actually potentially damaging. It may be easy for you to take responsibility for your child’s hardship as an adult, but it’s not YOUR hardship, is it? And what happens if it turns into more than therapy? What if she rebels so hard she develops a drug addiction or becomes promiscuous? Both common brands of rebellion for smothered teens.

    That’s what happened to both of the girls who grew up down the street from me. They had both biological parents who were non-abusive, lived in a nice neighborhood – everything was ideal. But out of unsubstantiated fear, they weren’t allowed out of their yard until 12, even though there was a big, beautiful park directly across the street. Even as teens, they weren’t allowed to cross the one busy street in our neighborhood. Did they live? Yep. And like I stated earlier, they hit 18 like a brick wall. This is because they were never allowed to develop their own judgment, weighing risk or navigating sketchy situations, vital skills for adulthood…All because their parents were always there to do it for them. And it cost them a lot more than therapy. Among other things, one was immediately impregnated at 18 by a drug-dealer boyfriend; the other dates nothing but let’s-piss-my-parents-off gangsters, all of which have been physically abusive, to date.

    I’m not saying you’re a bad mother, Cherry. I just hope you loosen that choke chain before it does any real damage. 8 is still young – your tendency to “smother” likely isn’t traumatic yet, but it could easily become so as your kids get older.

    I appreciate your opinions, too. I’ve been accused of handling people a bit roughly. It’s refreshing to have someone around who can not only take it, but who it ready to spit it right back. :)

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • mg2

    I also remember playing outside until the streetlights came on. I also remember go to stranger’s houses to play with their kids. I cannot fathom doing that now!
    I am paranoid of letting my 12 year old go outside and play and we live in a very structured, safe environment….military housing!! Even so, I know that freak could be lurking next door and I do not want something to happen to my child. I think it is my responsibility to keep him safe and make him ready for the real world. I also have a 4 year old and he never goes outside by himself! Ever!
    Tonight, I am taking my children to a church function. They have been invited to go by someone my husband knows at work. They were invited without me, but I am still going. I want to see the facility and the people there. Even with it being a “House of God,” I am going to check it out.
    Also, think anytime something happens to a child our first question is:
    “Where were the parents!”

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Cherry…Do you understand the concept of a “rate”? It’s essentially a percentage. A smaller percentage of the population (nationally) is victimized these days than 20 years ago. In other words, if the odds were, say 3 in 100 back then, they’re 1 in 100 now. Yep, I’ll say it again…The likelihood of you being victimized has decreased, fairly significantly, on the national scale. Please feel free to investigate any of the links I posted that substantiate this claim.

    I think maybe some are confusing an increase in REPORTING of crime with an increase in crime rates.

    Keep in mind that there are 10 fold as many places to get news of crimes such as these as there were in 1973.

    R

  • Ruby

    I am in the middle of 5 different things, so consider this a drive-by….

    CHERRY: I have 2 children. Both girls. Ages 4 and 6. Are those adequate credentials? Good. I am with Athena on this. Always have been.

    I will not live in fear. I will bring up my girls to live in fear. With smarts, yes. But not in fear. They do not roam around the ‘hood at will yet. But neither do I plan to chain them to my side until college. Granted, we live in the woods, but they play outside in our yard without me now. It won’t be too long before they’ll have my blessing to venture a bit further if they stay together….

    Oh, and violent crime against children is down nationwide, as Athena pointed out.

  • Ruby

    I am in the middle of 5 different things, so consider this a drive-by….

    CHERRY: I have 2 children. Both girls. Ages 4 and 6. Are those adequate credentials? Good. I am with Athena on this. Always have been.

    I will not live in fear. I will bring up my girls to live in fear. With smarts, yes. But not in fear. They do not roam around the ‘hood at will yet. But neither do I plan to chain them to my side until college. Granted, we live in the woods, but they play outside in our yard without me now. It won’t be too long before they’ll have my blessing to venture a bit further if they stay together….

    Oh, and violent crime against children is down nationwide, as Athena pointed out.

  • Ruby

    Urgh! Never talk to your husband while typing an emphatic reply! In above post (#71), 3rd paragraph, 2nd sentence should read

    “I will NOT bring up my girls to live in fear.”

    Sorry. I now return you to your regularly scheduled ranting.

  • Ruby

    Urgh! Never talk to your husband while typing an emphatic reply! In above post (#71), 3rd paragraph, 2nd sentence should read

    “I will NOT bring up my girls to live in fear.”

    Sorry. I now return you to your regularly scheduled ranting.

  • anneinchicago

    Okay, I gave up at comment 50, so if this has already been said excuse me.

    While we are all happy flagellating this poor kid’s relatives for poor parenting skills while simultaneously patting ourselves on the back for our good skills, let me ask this.

    Where the fuck were the police.?

    Hser left the family apartment at about 2:00 p.m. Monday. When her older brothers returned home at 4:30, Hser still hadn’t returned. After searching for her for an hour, police were called to help at 6:10 by a family friend who spoke English. Because no witnesses saw an abductor, no Amber Alert was issued. While a bigger search was organized at 10:30 p.m. Monday, still no Amber Alert went out.

    And the police were doing what all this time?

    By Tuesday morning, Hser was nowhere to be found. Volunteers began streaming into the Salt Lake apartment complex to help, but were asked to wait before searching. Organization was slow, and by 9:30 when search teams still weren’t cleared to go look for the child, police issued an Amber Alert. At 11:15, searchers were finally given the go-ahead to start looking, and police began searching in force

    Tuesday morning. 9:30 AM. The next day.People wanted to search but were told to wait why? Jesus H. Fuck.

    Is it that the police in this town just don’t like foreigners? Figured people who don’t speak English can’t complain about poor response time or police indifference? I want to know why the delay. Yes, I know Hsar was killed almost instantly, but still. My god. Why the effen hell did it take so long to start looking?

  • anneinchicago

    Okay, I gave up at comment 50, so if this has already been said excuse me.

    While we are all happy flagellating this poor kid’s relatives for poor parenting skills while simultaneously patting ourselves on the back for our good skills, let me ask this.

    Where the fuck were the police.?

    Hser left the family apartment at about 2:00 p.m. Monday. When her older brothers returned home at 4:30, Hser still hadn’t returned. After searching for her for an hour, police were called to help at 6:10 by a family friend who spoke English. Because no witnesses saw an abductor, no Amber Alert was issued. While a bigger search was organized at 10:30 p.m. Monday, still no Amber Alert went out.

    And the police were doing what all this time?

    By Tuesday morning, Hser was nowhere to be found. Volunteers began streaming into the Salt Lake apartment complex to help, but were asked to wait before searching. Organization was slow, and by 9:30 when search teams still weren’t cleared to go look for the child, police issued an Amber Alert. At 11:15, searchers were finally given the go-ahead to start looking, and police began searching in force

    Tuesday morning. 9:30 AM. The next day.People wanted to search but were told to wait why? Jesus H. Fuck.

    Is it that the police in this town just don’t like foreigners? Figured people who don’t speak English can’t complain about poor response time or police indifference? I want to know why the delay. Yes, I know Hsar was killed almost instantly, but still. My god. Why the effen hell did it take so long to start looking?

  • crunchieapple

    If the search efforts were made right away–even with an AMBER ALERT…there is a chance that she could had still been alive the 1st day.

    Good question! Why wasn’t an Amber Alert implemented right away? They do them quickly for situations that involved child-custody cases.

  • crunchieapple

    If the search efforts were made right away–even with an AMBER ALERT…there is a chance that she could had still been alive the 1st day.

    Good question! Why wasn’t an Amber Alert implemented right away? They do them quickly for situations that involved child-custody cases.

  • bornagainpagan

    Read Marcus Aurelius, Clarise – we covet the familiar, what is known to us. What we see every day, like 7 yr old girls in a huff. But to rape and kill her to cover your filthy tracks? Thank my drinking buddy Satan for the death penalty. His black soul’s a’com’n – fire up the Reamer!

  • bornagainpagan

    Read Marcus Aurelius, Clarise – we covet the familiar, what is known to us. What we see every day, like 7 yr old girls in a huff. But to rape and kill her to cover your filthy tracks? Thank my drinking buddy Satan for the death penalty. His black soul’s a’com’n – fire up the Reamer!

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    While we are all happy flagellating this poor kid’s relatives for poor parenting skills while simultaneously patting ourselves on the back for our good skills, let me ask this. Where were the police?

    The police weren’t called until after 6:00 p.m., by which time Hser had met with Esar Met (according to the probable cause statement, which lists the time of his crimes at 1600, 0r 4:00 p.m.) In fact, her brothers missed the mark by a half hour, which is why they couldn’t find her. So to answer “where were the police”, well, they were blissfully unaware.

    However, I do think the body could have been found on Monday night rather than Tuesday, so you may have some points about the handling of the case.

    I don’t think we’re “happy flagellating the family” here. What happened is that this topic opened up room for debate on what many of us as parents consider safe. The Burmese immigrant community in that apartment complex lived in communal camps in Thailand for decades, some of them, before getting to America. Doors were left open, and it wasn’t odd for people to walk into and out of each other’s apartments. So I don’t have a parenting issue with Cartoon and Pearlie Wah.

    Pearlie Wah just had a baby – her fifth. Cartoon and the two oldest boys, 18 and 20, were working minimum wage factory jobs. Cartoon was off Monday afternoon and was caring for the kids, and when Hser got huffy and stomped off, he thought he’d let her walk it off, figured she’d be in one of the other apartments with kids who spoke her language. It’s been stated that the three-level apartment where she was found in the basement bathroom was a common hangout for kids, despite the fact that five men lived there.

    This is a tragedy for everyone concerned, but I don’t think the police could have saved her within two hours of leaving home voluntarily. Likewise, I don’t think her father had reason to be especially concerned given the community in which they lived. A lot of us would do things differently, but these people have been in the US less than a year. I can’t fault the guy.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    While we are all happy flagellating this poor kid’s relatives for poor parenting skills while simultaneously patting ourselves on the back for our good skills, let me ask this. Where were the police?

    The police weren’t called until after 6:00 p.m., by which time Hser had met with Esar Met (according to the probable cause statement, which lists the time of his crimes at 1600, 0r 4:00 p.m.) In fact, her brothers missed the mark by a half hour, which is why they couldn’t find her. So to answer “where were the police”, well, they were blissfully unaware.

    However, I do think the body could have been found on Monday night rather than Tuesday, so you may have some points about the handling of the case.

    I don’t think we’re “happy flagellating the family” here. What happened is that this topic opened up room for debate on what many of us as parents consider safe. The Burmese immigrant community in that apartment complex lived in communal camps in Thailand for decades, some of them, before getting to America. Doors were left open, and it wasn’t odd for people to walk into and out of each other’s apartments. So I don’t have a parenting issue with Cartoon and Pearlie Wah.

    Pearlie Wah just had a baby – her fifth. Cartoon and the two oldest boys, 18 and 20, were working minimum wage factory jobs. Cartoon was off Monday afternoon and was caring for the kids, and when Hser got huffy and stomped off, he thought he’d let her walk it off, figured she’d be in one of the other apartments with kids who spoke her language. It’s been stated that the three-level apartment where she was found in the basement bathroom was a common hangout for kids, despite the fact that five men lived there.

    This is a tragedy for everyone concerned, but I don’t think the police could have saved her within two hours of leaving home voluntarily. Likewise, I don’t think her father had reason to be especially concerned given the community in which they lived. A lot of us would do things differently, but these people have been in the US less than a year. I can’t fault the guy.

  • Tux Princess

    Here I am rearing my head at another post that has me all up in arms. There are quite a few things that bother me about the story but there are quite a few things that bother me in the comments as well. Shall I begin? Too bad, I am anyway.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    What a CROCK of SHIT!!! You don’t have to be a biological parent to be a parent!! Now, I DO have my own child, a 10 year old son, BUT I also have a step daughter. I don’t feel any differently about one than I do the other. Just because you don’t push them out of your OWN womb doesn’t mean that you aren’t their parent!! How about telling all of the poor couples out there that have adopted children with problems or foster drug babies that the nights they spend awake while the baby is going through detox and screaming… getting only a moments rest isn’t as real as the nights “real” parents spend having to wake up and nurse every couple of hours. What a load of shit and a total joke!

    As far as being over protective goes… I have a 10 yr old that is outside from the minute he gets home from school until I force him to come in for the night. Guess I should go to jail for being a careless parent? I grew up in a VERY small town. I am not talking population of a couple thousand but population of a couple hundred at best! I woke up, got dressed, ran outside and stayed out all day. Oh and get this… It was in the middle of nowhere, 30 miles from the closest police station, and on the river to boot!! If I could move my family there, I would do it in a heartbeat and let them do the same thing.

    Am I a bad mother because I let my son go out and participate in healthy fun with his friends as opposed to sheltering him and keeping him inside the house for fear of what “might happen”? No. I have done my job as a parent from day one and taught him safe vs. unsafe, right vs. wrong, good vs. evil. He has been allowed to go out and play in our yard alone since he was 5 and around the neighborhood since he was 8. What good does all of our parenting do if we never give our kids the chance to use the judgment we have tried to instill in them? What good is it when they don’t see what real life is like and then go away to college and decide to do drugs, drink, etc.? Yes, I know that if kids want to do it then they will do it regardless, so for all of you reading this that are going to jump down my throat for that one, let it go. Been there, done that, heard that, nothing new.

    How many of you self righteous, over protective parents out there let your child believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc.? Do you care at all that you spend the MOST FORMATIVE years of your childs life LYING to them all the while teaching them not to lie to you?? How many of you skate around the issue when your child asks you a tough question about sex or drugs or something of the sort? Do you not realize what you are doing? By lying to them, you are damaging your kids lives and making them doubt things you tell them for years to come!!! Trust me, they still love the holidays without the lies.

    Now, before you all tie me to the stake and set it ablaze, realize that I am not attacking anyone personally. And Cherry, the only reason I used your quote in my comment is because I am sick and tired of people who a child has to be your own flesh and blood for them to be YOURS. Not the case whatsoever. Maybe I am a little pissed also at the fact that I am in the middle of the week that I have taken off of work at the last minute to care for my step daughter because her so called MOM called and said she couldn’t take care of her right now. But she isn’t “my” kid so how would I know what that really feels like? WTF ever.

    If I have pissed anyone off or offended anyone, I apologize… But being a good parent doesn’t go hand in hand with being over protective OR being that child’s biological parent.

    Shit.

  • Tux Princess

    Here I am rearing my head at another post that has me all up in arms. There are quite a few things that bother me about the story but there are quite a few things that bother me in the comments as well. Shall I begin? Too bad, I am anyway.

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent. And no matter what you use as an example for how wrong I must be, (healthy, stable foster/adoptive parents), the simple fact that you think I’m “paranoid” makes you completely clueless as to how a parent really feels about their offspring. It’s ok, not everyone is created to be a parent, and there’s nothing wrong with being child-free. But don’t even try to give me that answer, because it’s jive, and you know it – whether you want to admit it or not. Healthy, committed parents don’t give a rat’s ass about some benign statistic regarding the safety of their children. The fact that it happens AT ALL motivates them to keep their kids as safe as possible.

    What a CROCK of SHIT!!! You don’t have to be a biological parent to be a parent!! Now, I DO have my own child, a 10 year old son, BUT I also have a step daughter. I don’t feel any differently about one than I do the other. Just because you don’t push them out of your OWN womb doesn’t mean that you aren’t their parent!! How about telling all of the poor couples out there that have adopted children with problems or foster drug babies that the nights they spend awake while the baby is going through detox and screaming… getting only a moments rest isn’t as real as the nights “real” parents spend having to wake up and nurse every couple of hours. What a load of shit and a total joke!

    As far as being over protective goes… I have a 10 yr old that is outside from the minute he gets home from school until I force him to come in for the night. Guess I should go to jail for being a careless parent? I grew up in a VERY small town. I am not talking population of a couple thousand but population of a couple hundred at best! I woke up, got dressed, ran outside and stayed out all day. Oh and get this… It was in the middle of nowhere, 30 miles from the closest police station, and on the river to boot!! If I could move my family there, I would do it in a heartbeat and let them do the same thing.

    Am I a bad mother because I let my son go out and participate in healthy fun with his friends as opposed to sheltering him and keeping him inside the house for fear of what “might happen”? No. I have done my job as a parent from day one and taught him safe vs. unsafe, right vs. wrong, good vs. evil. He has been allowed to go out and play in our yard alone since he was 5 and around the neighborhood since he was 8. What good does all of our parenting do if we never give our kids the chance to use the judgment we have tried to instill in them? What good is it when they don’t see what real life is like and then go away to college and decide to do drugs, drink, etc.? Yes, I know that if kids want to do it then they will do it regardless, so for all of you reading this that are going to jump down my throat for that one, let it go. Been there, done that, heard that, nothing new.

    How many of you self righteous, over protective parents out there let your child believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc.? Do you care at all that you spend the MOST FORMATIVE years of your childs life LYING to them all the while teaching them not to lie to you?? How many of you skate around the issue when your child asks you a tough question about sex or drugs or something of the sort? Do you not realize what you are doing? By lying to them, you are damaging your kids lives and making them doubt things you tell them for years to come!!! Trust me, they still love the holidays without the lies.

    Now, before you all tie me to the stake and set it ablaze, realize that I am not attacking anyone personally. And Cherry, the only reason I used your quote in my comment is because I am sick and tired of people who a child has to be your own flesh and blood for them to be YOURS. Not the case whatsoever. Maybe I am a little pissed also at the fact that I am in the middle of the week that I have taken off of work at the last minute to care for my step daughter because her so called MOM called and said she couldn’t take care of her right now. But she isn’t “my” kid so how would I know what that really feels like? WTF ever.

    If I have pissed anyone off or offended anyone, I apologize… But being a good parent doesn’t go hand in hand with being over protective OR being that child’s biological parent.

    Shit.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Tux Princess,

    I don’t mean to speak for Cherry & she is free to correct me of course if I am wrong.
    I don’t think she means you need to have a biological child to be a parent.
    I think she meant until you are in the role of being a parent or caregiver day in & day out. Whether it be step, foster, birth parent. To me there is a big difference to someone that has babysat kids here & there to someone that takes care of a child all the time. I had many opinions before having children (I have 3) and just about all of them changed after.

    I don’t lie to my children about sex or drugs. I answer all questions as honestly as I can.

    I don’t think kids should be barricaded in the house until they are 18 but I don’t think kids as young as 7 & under should be roaming on their own alone. Anything could happen to them.

    I don’t think not letting your child who is 4,5,6,7 go out alone is over
    protective I think it’s commom sense in the world we live in today.

    I will parent the way I see necessary & you do the same. Hopefully all our children will be safe in the end.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Tux Princess,

    I don’t mean to speak for Cherry & she is free to correct me of course if I am wrong.
    I don’t think she means you need to have a biological child to be a parent.
    I think she meant until you are in the role of being a parent or caregiver day in & day out. Whether it be step, foster, birth parent. To me there is a big difference to someone that has babysat kids here & there to someone that takes care of a child all the time. I had many opinions before having children (I have 3) and just about all of them changed after.

    I don’t lie to my children about sex or drugs. I answer all questions as honestly as I can.

    I don’t think kids should be barricaded in the house until they are 18 but I don’t think kids as young as 7 & under should be roaming on their own alone. Anything could happen to them.

    I don’t think not letting your child who is 4,5,6,7 go out alone is over
    protective I think it’s commom sense in the world we live in today.

    I will parent the way I see necessary & you do the same. Hopefully all our children will be safe in the end.

  • WryBread

    It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    How dare you tell people who aren’t raising a child that they haven’t experienced real love and affection for another human being? It’s implied in your statement that those of us who aren’t parents haven’t experienced the real deal. Well, it may be true for you that you weren’t a full human being until you had a kid, but don’t pin your personal growth as being proof of a lack in the rest of us.

    Not having had a child does not mean that a person limps through life mis-shapen emotionally. The “I’m in a very special place and you’re not” argument is b.s.

  • WryBread

    It’s also quite obvious to me that you don’t have any children. When you do, you’re entire outlook will change, regardless of what the numbers imply. You cannot argue with me on this, because you simply have not experienced that sort of love and affection for another human being. Nothing compares to it, therefore your “devil’s advocate” idealism is nil, in my opinion.

    How dare you tell people who aren’t raising a child that they haven’t experienced real love and affection for another human being? It’s implied in your statement that those of us who aren’t parents haven’t experienced the real deal. Well, it may be true for you that you weren’t a full human being until you had a kid, but don’t pin your personal growth as being proof of a lack in the rest of us.

    Not having had a child does not mean that a person limps through life mis-shapen emotionally. The “I’m in a very special place and you’re not” argument is b.s.

  • Old Man Metal

    Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

    Let ‘er rip! *thumbs up*

  • Old Man Metal

    Anyhoo, one day I will be witty online and maybe even say a curse or two. I think I am too used to the old aol message boards. I swear in real life I curse and am funny.

    Let ‘er rip! *thumbs up*

  • Athena

    I don’t think she means you need to have a biological child to be a parent. I think she meant until you are in the role of being a parent or caregiver day in & day out. Whether it be step, foster, birth parent.

    I’m afraid you’re incorrect, Mommyto3 (cute name, BTW). Here are Cherry’s words:

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent.

    If that’s true, I feel pretty sorry for that “someone else’s kid”. Either way, the words are pretty clear. Because I haven’t popped out any children, I can’t possibly know. Load of crap. Just because she loves other people’s kids less than her own, it doesn’t mean I will.

    I really like how Ruby put it. “I will not raise my kids in fear”. Kudos to you, Ruby, for keeping things in perspective. Apparently, some parents don’t realize how crippling growing up under such paranoid and restricted circumstances can be. Sure smothering them won’t necessarily ruin them, just like giving them some freedom won’t necessarily cause them to be abducted and killed. The truth is, tons of parents walk this line every year quite successfully.

  • Athena

    I don’t think she means you need to have a biological child to be a parent. I think she meant until you are in the role of being a parent or caregiver day in & day out. Whether it be step, foster, birth parent.

    I’m afraid you’re incorrect, Mommyto3 (cute name, BTW). Here are Cherry’s words:

    Oh how I love that comeback. Seriously. It’s my favorite. “But I took care of someone else’s kid so I am just as much a parent!” I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to subjectively disagree. I, too, took care of someone else’s kid, and it wasn’t until I had MY OWN children that I understood what it was truly like to be a parent.

    If that’s true, I feel pretty sorry for that “someone else’s kid”. Either way, the words are pretty clear. Because I haven’t popped out any children, I can’t possibly know. Load of crap. Just because she loves other people’s kids less than her own, it doesn’t mean I will.

    I really like how Ruby put it. “I will not raise my kids in fear”. Kudos to you, Ruby, for keeping things in perspective. Apparently, some parents don’t realize how crippling growing up under such paranoid and restricted circumstances can be. Sure smothering them won’t necessarily ruin them, just like giving them some freedom won’t necessarily cause them to be abducted and killed. The truth is, tons of parents walk this line every year quite successfully.

  • Totemic

    Everyone is entitled to a belief on how to raise their children. Me, I personally believe in letting your child experience life, make choices based upon what I as a parent have tried to teach.

    Now as to the “you don’t have children” line of reasoning. I have to call BS on that. Sorry, but if you spend any time as either a foster parent/s or even, yes I will say it… a legal guardian, you have shown a level of compassion that I would call parenthood.

    My $.02 worth. And if necessary, I will join Tux on that stake, because I tend to agree with her.

  • Totemic

    Everyone is entitled to a belief on how to raise their children. Me, I personally believe in letting your child experience life, make choices based upon what I as a parent have tried to teach.

    Now as to the “you don’t have children” line of reasoning. I have to call BS on that. Sorry, but if you spend any time as either a foster parent/s or even, yes I will say it… a legal guardian, you have shown a level of compassion that I would call parenthood.

    My $.02 worth. And if necessary, I will join Tux on that stake, because I tend to agree with her.

  • Athena

    So damn agreeable, Totemic. You’re okay, in my book. ;)

    …and why does it seem like I’m just responding to you, this morning? It’s, like, three different responses in three different articles. :P

  • Athena

    So damn agreeable, Totemic. You’re okay, in my book. ;)

    …and why does it seem like I’m just responding to you, this morning? It’s, like, three different responses in three different articles. :P

  • Totemic

    …and why does it seem like I’m just responding to you, this morning? It’s, like, three different responses in three different articles.

    Slow day at work :p.

  • Totemic

    …and why does it seem like I’m just responding to you, this morning? It’s, like, three different responses in three different articles.

    Slow day at work :p.

  • Athena

    Here I’m thinking, “Christ, at this rate, these people are going to get tired of me. Maybe I should lay off the front page and go give the forums some attention?”

    …Well, we obviously see how that decision turned out. Sorry, dude. You’re stuck. Well, unless you’ve got some other totally awesome true crime website to hang out at…Which I doubt. :P

  • Athena

    Here I’m thinking, “Christ, at this rate, these people are going to get tired of me. Maybe I should lay off the front page and go give the forums some attention?”

    …Well, we obviously see how that decision turned out. Sorry, dude. You’re stuck. Well, unless you’ve got some other totally awesome true crime website to hang out at…Which I doubt. :P

  • solange822001

    How many of you self righteous, over protective parents out there let your child believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc.? Do you care at all that you spend the MOST FORMATIVE years of your childs life LYING to them all the while teaching them not to lie to you?? How many of you skate around the issue when your child asks you a tough question about sex or drugs or something of the sort? Do you not realize what you are doing? By lying to them, you are damaging your kids lives and making them doubt things you tell them for years to come!!! Trust me, they still love the holidays without the lies.

    Holy crap! Calm down. I could be wrong, but what I believe she is trying to say is that taking care of a kid for someone else for a period of time is not the same as being a parent. Being a parent includes adopting and such. In Athena’s case, (sorry if i am incorrect), she cared for a sibling or family member for a period of time, possible a year or more. And although I dont agree with her point of view, I can understand how she has the experience to know about these things. I think that it is just the way she believes, and she would probably believe the same thing with her own kids.

    I dont blame Cherry for her comments, it was the first thing I said as well when I had this discussion with Athena. I pretty much see where everyone is coming from, so let’s jsut chill out a little bit.

  • solange822001

    How many of you self righteous, over protective parents out there let your child believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc.? Do you care at all that you spend the MOST FORMATIVE years of your childs life LYING to them all the while teaching them not to lie to you?? How many of you skate around the issue when your child asks you a tough question about sex or drugs or something of the sort? Do you not realize what you are doing? By lying to them, you are damaging your kids lives and making them doubt things you tell them for years to come!!! Trust me, they still love the holidays without the lies.

    Holy crap! Calm down. I could be wrong, but what I believe she is trying to say is that taking care of a kid for someone else for a period of time is not the same as being a parent. Being a parent includes adopting and such. In Athena’s case, (sorry if i am incorrect), she cared for a sibling or family member for a period of time, possible a year or more. And although I dont agree with her point of view, I can understand how she has the experience to know about these things. I think that it is just the way she believes, and she would probably believe the same thing with her own kids.

    I dont blame Cherry for her comments, it was the first thing I said as well when I had this discussion with Athena. I pretty much see where everyone is coming from, so let’s jsut chill out a little bit.

  • solange822001

    How many of you self righteous, over protective parents out there let your child believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc.? Do you care at all that you spend the MOST FORMATIVE years of your childs life LYING to them all the while teaching them not to lie to you?? How many of you skate around the issue when your child asks you a tough question about sex or drugs or something of the sort? Do you not realize what you are doing? By lying to them, you are damaging your kids lives and making them doubt things you tell them for years to come!!! Trust me, they still love the holidays without the lies.

    Holy crap! Calm down. I could be wrong, but what I believe she is trying to say is that taking care of a kid for someone else for a period of time is not the same as being a parent. Being a parent includes adopting and such. In Athena’s case, (sorry if i am incorrect), she cared for a sibling or family member for a period of time, possible a year or more. And although I dont agree with her point of view, I can understand how she has the experience to know about these things. I think that it is just the way she believes, and she would probably believe the same thing with her own kids.

    I dont blame Cherry for her comments, it was the first thing I said as well when I had this discussion with Athena. I pretty much see where everyone is coming from, so let’s jsut chill out a little bit.

  • solange822001

    Apparently, some parents don’t realize how crippling growing up under such paranoid and restricted circumstances can be. Sure smothering them won’t necessarily ruin them, just like giving them some freedom won’t necessarily cause them to be abducted and killed. The truth is, tons of parents walk this line every year quite successfully.

    I will also say this, it rubs me the wrong way when someone who is not yet a parent (not someone who took care of someone else’s kid, but a parent) tells me that not letting my 7 year old wander outside alone is “crippling” him. I hope you can understand how that might make others feel.

    We should also recognize that there aren’t just those who are over-protective and those who let their kids reign free, there are variations. I may not let my 7 year old walk around an apartment complex by himself, but that doesn’t mean that at 12 years old he is going to be the only kid looking out the window at the park across the street, watching all the other kids play when he can’t. We all have different opinions of when is too young, and some are extreme on both ends, and some are not.

  • solange822001

    Apparently, some parents don’t realize how crippling growing up under such paranoid and restricted circumstances can be. Sure smothering them won’t necessarily ruin them, just like giving them some freedom won’t necessarily cause them to be abducted and killed. The truth is, tons of parents walk this line every year quite successfully.

    I will also say this, it rubs me the wrong way when someone who is not yet a parent (not someone who took care of someone else’s kid, but a parent) tells me that not letting my 7 year old wander outside alone is “crippling” him. I hope you can understand how that might make others feel.

    We should also recognize that there aren’t just those who are over-protective and those who let their kids reign free, there are variations. I may not let my 7 year old walk around an apartment complex by himself, but that doesn’t mean that at 12 years old he is going to be the only kid looking out the window at the park across the street, watching all the other kids play when he can’t. We all have different opinions of when is too young, and some are extreme on both ends, and some are not.

  • solange822001

    Apparently, some parents don’t realize how crippling growing up under such paranoid and restricted circumstances can be. Sure smothering them won’t necessarily ruin them, just like giving them some freedom won’t necessarily cause them to be abducted and killed. The truth is, tons of parents walk this line every year quite successfully.

    I will also say this, it rubs me the wrong way when someone who is not yet a parent (not someone who took care of someone else’s kid, but a parent) tells me that not letting my 7 year old wander outside alone is “crippling” him. I hope you can understand how that might make others feel.

    We should also recognize that there aren’t just those who are over-protective and those who let their kids reign free, there are variations. I may not let my 7 year old walk around an apartment complex by himself, but that doesn’t mean that at 12 years old he is going to be the only kid looking out the window at the park across the street, watching all the other kids play when he can’t. We all have different opinions of when is too young, and some are extreme on both ends, and some are not.

  • Athena

    Since it’s come into question –

    I was the legal guardian of my younger sister for three years, from the age of 15 on. For two years prior to that, however, I essentially had joint custody. She would stay with my parents during the week but spend weekends and vacation at my house. I was the liason during those two years between our family and the school and, occasionally, my family and the police. She also lived with me for a year after turning 18 because, as a result of flunking her freshman year of high school, it took her an extra year to graduate, and I insisted she get her diploma rather than a GED.

    So, to recap – for 4 years I was completely responsible for her. For 2 prior to that, I was partially responsible for her.

    Despite the fact that she was, essentially, “damaged goods” when I usurped custody of her and the fact that we lived in a less than desirable area, I recognized the necessity to give her some freedom. For all the reasons I’ve previously mentioned, there’s a big one I have not – Resentment. If a child grows to resent the person who cares for them, it compromises everything from their immediate behavior to the way they view relationships going forward.

    Kids need to feel as though they are trusted at a reasonable level. That is part of a healthy relationship between a child and parent/guardian. In my experience, that feeling of trust is hard to establish when you don’t allow a child the opportunity to exercise their own judgment. If you instill your child with the knowledge of how to avoid strangers, the next logical step is to trust them with it.

  • Athena

    Since it’s come into question –

    I was the legal guardian of my younger sister for three years, from the age of 15 on. For two years prior to that, however, I essentially had joint custody. She would stay with my parents during the week but spend weekends and vacation at my house. I was the liason during those two years between our family and the school and, occasionally, my family and the police. She also lived with me for a year after turning 18 because, as a result of flunking her freshman year of high school, it took her an extra year to graduate, and I insisted she get her diploma rather than a GED.

    So, to recap – for 4 years I was completely responsible for her. For 2 prior to that, I was partially responsible for her.

    Despite the fact that she was, essentially, “damaged goods” when I usurped custody of her and the fact that we lived in a less than desirable area, I recognized the necessity to give her some freedom. For all the reasons I’ve previously mentioned, there’s a big one I have not – Resentment. If a child grows to resent the person who cares for them, it compromises everything from their immediate behavior to the way they view relationships going forward.

    Kids need to feel as though they are trusted at a reasonable level. That is part of a healthy relationship between a child and parent/guardian. In my experience, that feeling of trust is hard to establish when you don’t allow a child the opportunity to exercise their own judgment. If you instill your child with the knowledge of how to avoid strangers, the next logical step is to trust them with it.

  • Athena

    I will also say this, it rubs me the wrong way when someone who is not yet a parent (not someone who took care of someone else’s kid, but a parent) tells me that not letting my 7 year old wander outside alone is “crippling” him. I hope you can understand how that might make others feel.

    I should have been more specific. My comments about potentially crippling overprotection aren’t directed toward the parent who doesn’t let their 7 year old walk around an apartment complex alone. While I, personally, consider that to tend toward overprotection, it is, by no means, damaging, in my opinion. I spoke harshly initially because of the apparent shock and, perhaps, even disgust that was immediately shown at the thought of this man allowing his daughter to “walk it off”. Allowing a child to walk around in their own apartment complex should not be viewed with such distain.

    My concern, however, is for the parent who won’t let an 8 year old play in their own yard without being right there, or the parent who won’t let their 12 year old play at the park at the end of the block. Both of these individuals have stated that they live in good neighborhoods. So, why the super short leash? These parents risk (“risk”, not “guarantee”) alienating their children (yes, those of us who had freedom as kids tended to exclude those who didn’t for obvious reasons) and stunting their child’s ability to develop. For what? A false sense of security. Your kid is still most likely to be victimized by someone they know and trust.

    I found the “who cares if I smother them so badly they need therapy, at least they’ll be alive” comment to be especially disturbing and short-sighted. That kind of shit is crippling. And I get lectured about what is a healthy situation for a kid?

  • Athena

    I will also say this, it rubs me the wrong way when someone who is not yet a parent (not someone who took care of someone else’s kid, but a parent) tells me that not letting my 7 year old wander outside alone is “crippling” him. I hope you can understand how that might make others feel.

    I should have been more specific. My comments about potentially crippling overprotection aren’t directed toward the parent who doesn’t let their 7 year old walk around an apartment complex alone. While I, personally, consider that to tend toward overprotection, it is, by no means, damaging, in my opinion. I spoke harshly initially because of the apparent shock and, perhaps, even disgust that was immediately shown at the thought of this man allowing his daughter to “walk it off”. Allowing a child to walk around in their own apartment complex should not be viewed with such distain.

    My concern, however, is for the parent who won’t let an 8 year old play in their own yard without being right there, or the parent who won’t let their 12 year old play at the park at the end of the block. Both of these individuals have stated that they live in good neighborhoods. So, why the super short leash? These parents risk (“risk”, not “guarantee”) alienating their children (yes, those of us who had freedom as kids tended to exclude those who didn’t for obvious reasons) and stunting their child’s ability to develop. For what? A false sense of security. Your kid is still most likely to be victimized by someone they know and trust.

    I found the “who cares if I smother them so badly they need therapy, at least they’ll be alive” comment to be especially disturbing and short-sighted. That kind of shit is crippling. And I get lectured about what is a healthy situation for a kid?

  • solange822001

    I found the “who cares if I smother them so badly they need therapy, at least they’ll be alive” to be especially disturbing and short-sighted. That kind of shit is crippling.

    I believe too that there has to be a happy median. I certainly don’t want either of these things to happen to my child. Maybe I did jump the gun by saying that this father is in the wrong, all situations are different. As parents, I suppose you have to gauge how mature your child is, the area they will be spending time in, etc. I personally, let my son play in the yard by himself, since we live in a good neighborhood. I do find myself basically watching him through the window, out of paranoia, but I try not to let him see me. However, I dont think I would let my son walk around an apartment complex unsupervised. That’s just my personal opinion, I certainly don’t think the father did this out of negligence.

  • solange822001

    I found the “who cares if I smother them so badly they need therapy, at least they’ll be alive” to be especially disturbing and short-sighted. That kind of shit is crippling.

    I believe too that there has to be a happy median. I certainly don’t want either of these things to happen to my child. Maybe I did jump the gun by saying that this father is in the wrong, all situations are different. As parents, I suppose you have to gauge how mature your child is, the area they will be spending time in, etc. I personally, let my son play in the yard by himself, since we live in a good neighborhood. I do find myself basically watching him through the window, out of paranoia, but I try not to let him see me. However, I dont think I would let my son walk around an apartment complex unsupervised. That’s just my personal opinion, I certainly don’t think the father did this out of negligence.

  • solange822001

    I found the “who cares if I smother them so badly they need therapy, at least they’ll be alive” to be especially disturbing and short-sighted. That kind of shit is crippling.

    I believe too that there has to be a happy median. I certainly don’t want either of these things to happen to my child. Maybe I did jump the gun by saying that this father is in the wrong, all situations are different. As parents, I suppose you have to gauge how mature your child is, the area they will be spending time in, etc. I personally, let my son play in the yard by himself, since we live in a good neighborhood. I do find myself basically watching him through the window, out of paranoia, but I try not to let him see me. However, I dont think I would let my son walk around an apartment complex unsupervised. That’s just my personal opinion, I certainly don’t think the father did this out of negligence.

  • aspartame

    You being the biological parent of a child will never know what it is like when being the primary care giver of a child, walking the floors, feeding, caring for every need and desire of an infant, having to take her to summer school because a suitable baby sitter was not available. And then to have her cracked out mother take her out of state on a whim.

    Maybe it is that people in my position love and cherish just a tad bit more because things that you consider mundane are small joys for us. You think having to give a bath before bed is a hassle, I find that time I get to spend with my girls a treat. You have to hurry home and make dinner for the kids. I find this time with them all dressed in little aprons with flour all over the kitchen more fun and exciting than an amusement park. And if dinner is 30 minuets late because I had to show her 4 times how to crack an egg without getting shell in it….so be it.

    My sister had my oldest niece when I was 13 she was 17, she dropped the baby of at my parents home. And went out to be 17, well like I said I was one of 3 that was responsible for the child, I had her until she was 4 and old enough to not be the bother that an infant was. So her mother decided to follow a dick to another state. And I nor my parents were not able to say anything to her because she was the “mother”.

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

  • aspartame

    You being the biological parent of a child will never know what it is like when being the primary care giver of a child, walking the floors, feeding, caring for every need and desire of an infant, having to take her to summer school because a suitable baby sitter was not available. And then to have her cracked out mother take her out of state on a whim.

    Maybe it is that people in my position love and cherish just a tad bit more because things that you consider mundane are small joys for us. You think having to give a bath before bed is a hassle, I find that time I get to spend with my girls a treat. You have to hurry home and make dinner for the kids. I find this time with them all dressed in little aprons with flour all over the kitchen more fun and exciting than an amusement park. And if dinner is 30 minuets late because I had to show her 4 times how to crack an egg without getting shell in it….so be it.

    My sister had my oldest niece when I was 13 she was 17, she dropped the baby of at my parents home. And went out to be 17, well like I said I was one of 3 that was responsible for the child, I had her until she was 4 and old enough to not be the bother that an infant was. So her mother decided to follow a dick to another state. And I nor my parents were not able to say anything to her because she was the “mother”.

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

  • aspartame

    You being the biological parent of a child will never know what it is like when being the primary care giver of a child, walking the floors, feeding, caring for every need and desire of an infant, having to take her to summer school because a suitable baby sitter was not available. And then to have her cracked out mother take her out of state on a whim.

    Maybe it is that people in my position love and cherish just a tad bit more because things that you consider mundane are small joys for us. You think having to give a bath before bed is a hassle, I find that time I get to spend with my girls a treat. You have to hurry home and make dinner for the kids. I find this time with them all dressed in little aprons with flour all over the kitchen more fun and exciting than an amusement park. And if dinner is 30 minuets late because I had to show her 4 times how to crack an egg without getting shell in it….so be it.

    My sister had my oldest niece when I was 13 she was 17, she dropped the baby of at my parents home. And went out to be 17, well like I said I was one of 3 that was responsible for the child, I had her until she was 4 and old enough to not be the bother that an infant was. So her mother decided to follow a dick to another state. And I nor my parents were not able to say anything to her because she was the “mother”.

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

  • Athena

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary. :)

  • Athena

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary. :)

  • Athena

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary. :)

  • Athena

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary. :)

  • Lizard

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

  • Lizard

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

  • Lizard

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

  • Lizard

    Sorry I’m not as good as Athena nor as eloquent as Kathy this is just IMHO.

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

  • Totemic

    All parenting skills and discussions aside. I think this is also a cultural deal. They just spent 20 years in what I would almost consider a concentration camp ( no offense meant to anyone). In those 20 years, it’s a small enclosed environment. They have children, they allow said children to wander around. No big deal. Now they move into an apartment complex, ok. Once again, small enclosed environment. Tiny living conditions, allow the girl to wander/stalk off. Go to friends house… or another apartment. Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states. Did he expect his daughter to be killed, fuck no, but did he even have the idea it could happen, no he didn’t.

  • Totemic

    All parenting skills and discussions aside. I think this is also a cultural deal. They just spent 20 years in what I would almost consider a concentration camp ( no offense meant to anyone). In those 20 years, it’s a small enclosed environment. They have children, they allow said children to wander around. No big deal. Now they move into an apartment complex, ok. Once again, small enclosed environment. Tiny living conditions, allow the girl to wander/stalk off. Go to friends house… or another apartment. Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states. Did he expect his daughter to be killed, fuck no, but did he even have the idea it could happen, no he didn’t.

  • Totemic

    All parenting skills and discussions aside. I think this is also a cultural deal. They just spent 20 years in what I would almost consider a concentration camp ( no offense meant to anyone). In those 20 years, it’s a small enclosed environment. They have children, they allow said children to wander around. No big deal. Now they move into an apartment complex, ok. Once again, small enclosed environment. Tiny living conditions, allow the girl to wander/stalk off. Go to friends house… or another apartment. Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states. Did he expect his daughter to be killed, fuck no, but did he even have the idea it could happen, no he didn’t.

  • Totemic

    All parenting skills and discussions aside. I think this is also a cultural deal. They just spent 20 years in what I would almost consider a concentration camp ( no offense meant to anyone). In those 20 years, it’s a small enclosed environment. They have children, they allow said children to wander around. No big deal. Now they move into an apartment complex, ok. Once again, small enclosed environment. Tiny living conditions, allow the girl to wander/stalk off. Go to friends house… or another apartment. Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states. Did he expect his daughter to be killed, fuck no, but did he even have the idea it could happen, no he didn’t.

  • aspartame

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary.

    thanks ~blushes~

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

    lol yeah im HOT! lol

  • aspartame

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary.

    thanks ~blushes~

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

    lol yeah im HOT! lol

  • aspartame

    Asp, darling, you’re fabulous. Your opinion is real and heart-felt. The packaging it comes in is secondary.

    thanks ~blushes~

    And the side boob in your avatar is awesome.

    lol yeah im HOT! lol

  • Athena

    Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states.

    Absolutely. Once again, to reference my time in the hood – Low income housing communities tend to experience the familiarity that suburbs once enjoyed. They almost have to from a shared-resource perspective. Suburban families don’t have to ask for sugar or flour as often because they’ve likely got it in stock. When you’re out on your patio in suburbia, random people don’t have to walk across it to get to their own homes.

    When I lived there, I knew every one of my neighbors. I might not have been on good terms with all of them, but we were all on a first name basis. There were little kids who would play at and in my house even though I didn’t have any kids of my own. On an occasion or two, we’d have to return an escaped toddler to their home. This was nothing unusual. If I scolded a child for misbehaving, the parents never responded in that arrogant, suburban, “how dare you discipline my child” way that seems to have grown common. Hell, hood parents need all the extra help they can get. Even though I didn’t have my own kids, I had expressed permission from three different households to spank theirs, if necessary (I never did, though).

    The typical suburban “I don’t know my neighbors” complaint is self-fulfilling, to an extent. You don’t know your neighbors, therefore you are distrusting, therefore you don’t bother to get to know them. Do something about it. If not knowing your neighbors adds to your distrust of your surroundings, throw a block party. We are social creatures, human beings – we LOVE an excuse to get together and introduce ourselves. Too often, however, we wait for someone else to make the first move. How ’bout you be that person, for a change?

  • Athena

    Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states.

    Absolutely. Once again, to reference my time in the hood – Low income housing communities tend to experience the familiarity that suburbs once enjoyed. They almost have to from a shared-resource perspective. Suburban families don’t have to ask for sugar or flour as often because they’ve likely got it in stock. When you’re out on your patio in suburbia, random people don’t have to walk across it to get to their own homes.

    When I lived there, I knew every one of my neighbors. I might not have been on good terms with all of them, but we were all on a first name basis. There were little kids who would play at and in my house even though I didn’t have any kids of my own. On an occasion or two, we’d have to return an escaped toddler to their home. This was nothing unusual. If I scolded a child for misbehaving, the parents never responded in that arrogant, suburban, “how dare you discipline my child” way that seems to have grown common. Hell, hood parents need all the extra help they can get. Even though I didn’t have my own kids, I had expressed permission from three different households to spank theirs, if necessary (I never did, though).

    The typical suburban “I don’t know my neighbors” complaint is self-fulfilling, to an extent. You don’t know your neighbors, therefore you are distrusting, therefore you don’t bother to get to know them. Do something about it. If not knowing your neighbors adds to your distrust of your surroundings, throw a block party. We are social creatures, human beings – we LOVE an excuse to get together and introduce ourselves. Too often, however, we wait for someone else to make the first move. How ’bout you be that person, for a change?

  • Athena

    Village mentallity. Very similar to project housing in the states.

    Absolutely. Once again, to reference my time in the hood – Low income housing communities tend to experience the familiarity that suburbs once enjoyed. They almost have to from a shared-resource perspective. Suburban families don’t have to ask for sugar or flour as often because they’ve likely got it in stock. When you’re out on your patio in suburbia, random people don’t have to walk across it to get to their own homes.

    When I lived there, I knew every one of my neighbors. I might not have been on good terms with all of them, but we were all on a first name basis. There were little kids who would play at and in my house even though I didn’t have any kids of my own. On an occasion or two, we’d have to return an escaped toddler to their home. This was nothing unusual. If I scolded a child for misbehaving, the parents never responded in that arrogant, suburban, “how dare you discipline my child” way that seems to have grown common. Hell, hood parents need all the extra help they can get. Even though I didn’t have my own kids, I had expressed permission from three different households to spank theirs, if necessary (I never did, though).

    The typical suburban “I don’t know my neighbors” complaint is self-fulfilling, to an extent. You don’t know your neighbors, therefore you are distrusting, therefore you don’t bother to get to know them. Do something about it. If not knowing your neighbors adds to your distrust of your surroundings, throw a block party. We are social creatures, human beings – we LOVE an excuse to get together and introduce ourselves. Too often, however, we wait for someone else to make the first move. How ’bout you be that person, for a change?

  • Totemic

    Well said Athena. I know all the neighbors on my block. Do we get along? Not much, but do we watch out for each other? Yes. Do I know all the neighbors in my sub-division, hell no. There are over 4000 at least.

  • Totemic

    Well said Athena. I know all the neighbors on my block. Do we get along? Not much, but do we watch out for each other? Yes. Do I know all the neighbors in my sub-division, hell no. There are over 4000 at least.

  • Totemic

    Well said Athena. I know all the neighbors on my block. Do we get along? Not much, but do we watch out for each other? Yes. Do I know all the neighbors in my sub-division, hell no. There are over 4000 at least.

  • Totemic

    Well said Athena. I know all the neighbors on my block. Do we get along? Not much, but do we watch out for each other? Yes. Do I know all the neighbors in my sub-division, hell no. There are over 4000 at least.

  • solange822001

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    I understand what you’re saying, I certainly don’t think it’s any different in either situation. When you have a child in your care whom you love, it’s all the same.

  • solange822001

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    I understand what you’re saying, I certainly don’t think it’s any different in either situation. When you have a child in your care whom you love, it’s all the same.

  • solange822001

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    I understand what you’re saying, I certainly don’t think it’s any different in either situation. When you have a child in your care whom you love, it’s all the same.

  • solange822001

    So I totally reject the fact that I do not understand what its like to be a parent and have to worry and care about a child just because I did not push her out of my vagina!

    I understand what you’re saying, I certainly don’t think it’s any different in either situation. When you have a child in your care whom you love, it’s all the same.

  • Dakota Valkyrie

    A Burmese refugee accused of killing 7-year-old Hser Ner Moo two years ago angrily denied his guilt in court on Friday.

    “I was forced by the authorities here to say that I did it, but I didn't kill,” said Esar Met, according to an interpreter for the girl's family, who translated the statement for The Tribune .

    Hser Ner Moo's family, who traveled from Iowa for Friday's hearing, had been told Met would plead guilty and be sentenced, the interpreter said.

    But when Met's attorney told the judge they had reached a resolution in the case, Met, whose legs and hands had been shaking, shook his head to the contrary. Met then spoke passionately in Burmese, after which his attorneys requested a break so they could confer with Met.

    About an hour later, 3rd District Court Judge Judith Atherton returned to the bench and defense attorney Michael Peterson said, “There are inquiries we need to make and then report back.”

    A status hearing was set for July 9.
    [...]

    The case bogged down in December 2008, when the defense raised questions about Met's mental competency. That was also the last time Met had appeared in court until Friday.

    According to a March 2009 court docket entry, the defense intended to ask the judge to appoint mental evaluators, but nothing was ever filed with the court.
    [...]

    Hser Ner Moo's mother, Pearlly Wa, was stoic outside the courtroom after the hearing ended.

    “Everything works out for the best,” she said through an interpreter. “The proceedings have shown that justice will be served.”

    But some community members who knew Hser Ner Moo remain angry.

    “I'm a little bit disgusted,” said Juanita Huertero, a friend of the family who attended the hearing. “It seems like he has more rights than the victims.”

    http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15135570