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Kristin Phillips: Army Wife, Baby Killer

March 18, 2008 at 5:49 am by  

UPDATE 3.18.08 – Kristin Phillips has another notch on her dead baby bedpost. In 1998, a dead baby boy was found in a shoebox in her parents’ basement four months after being born. Kristin was convicted of a misdemeanor at that time. See below for more information.

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3/14/08, Fort Leonard Wood, MO – Something very wrong was happening in Kristin Phillips‘ Ft. Leonard Wood home last month. Her husband, Sgt. Jason Phillips, was serving in Iraq. Kristin, 33, was living on base like thousands of other Army wives across the country: holding down the home fort, taking care of the kids. She had four children: daughters aged 14 and 5, a 2 year old son, and eleven-month-old baby Alexis. Now Kristin Phillips has only three children. And just so you know, this might be the worst case I’ve covered since the baby in the carseat.

The affidavit is brutal. On the night of February 21, Alexis Nikohl Emily Phillips was found by EMS and military police in the master bedroom of the family’s home, lying in her mother’s arms. Kristin Phillips appeared to be having seizures but when she woke a few minutes later, she became very agitated and combative while screaming “let me die”, “don’t touch me”, and “I didn’t ask for your help”. Both mother and child were transported to the hospital, where Alexis was pronounced dead at about 10:00 p.m.

My source tells me that the fourteen-year-old daughter called 911 for help, although I don’t have confirmation of that. The same source states that the girl heard her mother screaming in the bedroom and was afraid that Phillips had killed Alexis, so she called, because Phillips had locked herself in the bedroom and wouldn’t come out – facts which are borne out by the affidavit.

Authorities arrived to find Alexis dead – and not a little bit dead. She was beginning to decompose, having been dead at least 24 hours and possibly as long as three days. Her skin was coming off from lying in urine for so long, and the official cause of death for Alexis, who would have turned one this coming Monday, was starvation, dehydration, and possible sepsis. In a corner of the master bedroom, Alexis’ portable crib stood, with blood and urine pooled at the bottom. Autopsy showed that Alexis had not been fed for at least 24 hours prior to her death.

In another room, police found the two year old son, who had to have layers of feces removed from his skin and whose diaper had “cumulative layers” of fecal matter in it. The house stunk of urine and feces, and spoiled food and dirty laundry were everywhere. Fortunately, the toddler boy survived, and he and the surviving daughters were removed from the home by the Department of Social Services. Jason Phillips has since returned from Iraq.

Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

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Kristin Phillips was in federal court on Thursday, charged with killing her daughter by child abuse. The case is federal because Alexis was killed on a military base. If convicted, Phillips could face the death penalty.

UPDATE 3/1/8/08 – The Springfield News-Leader broke the story this morning that Kristin Phillips has yet another dead baby in her past, when her last name was Matheny. That baby, Austin Daniel Matheny, was born in her parents’ basement when Kristin Matheny (now Phillips) was 23 years old. She already had two daughters, aged three adn five, at that time. Kristin concealed the pregnancy, gave birth in the home, then tied the baby’s umbilical cord off with pantyhose and put him in a shoebox with a stuffed toy and an air freshener. Four months later, her mother found the box, confronted Kristin, and called police.

Kristin Matheny (Phillips) was convicted only of failing to report a death at that time and received a little jail time and a couple of years of probation. The three-year-old girl’s father sued for, and won, sole custody based on that case. The five-year-old is probably the same child who was in the home last month – she’d be fourteen now. Explains a lot more about that child’s behavior in the face of this insanity – she’s lived with it all her life. I’ll continue to update as information becomes available.

JakobsMommy hit this in the forums, too.

Original post March 14, 2008 – updated March 18, 2008

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  • solange822001

    This case appears different to me than some of the others. This lady looks like someone who loves her kids. Pictures of them all over MySpace, normal military family… What could have happened to this woman?

  • solange822001

    This case appears different to me than some of the others. This lady looks like someone who loves her kids. Pictures of them all over MySpace, normal military family… What could have happened to this woman?

  • solange822001

    This case appears different to me than some of the others. This lady looks like someone who loves her kids. Pictures of them all over MySpace, normal military family… What could have happened to this woman?

  • Kathy

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    I just don’t understand why the 14 year old did not call sooner. I’m not blaming her, but at 14, I was the one responsible for my two younger sisters most of the time due to my parents work schedules. You would think that she knew something was wrong and would have reached out for help sooner. Somehow, I think she probably did, but was not taken seriously.
    The youngest two were completely ignored. One was ignored to death. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.

  • Kathy

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    I just don’t understand why the 14 year old did not call sooner. I’m not blaming her, but at 14, I was the one responsible for my two younger sisters most of the time due to my parents work schedules. You would think that she knew something was wrong and would have reached out for help sooner. Somehow, I think she probably did, but was not taken seriously.
    The youngest two were completely ignored. One was ignored to death. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.

  • Kathy

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    I just don’t understand why the 14 year old did not call sooner. I’m not blaming her, but at 14, I was the one responsible for my two younger sisters most of the time due to my parents work schedules. You would think that she knew something was wrong and would have reached out for help sooner. Somehow, I think she probably did, but was not taken seriously.
    The youngest two were completely ignored. One was ignored to death. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.

  • Kathy

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    I just don’t understand why the 14 year old did not call sooner. I’m not blaming her, but at 14, I was the one responsible for my two younger sisters most of the time due to my parents work schedules. You would think that she knew something was wrong and would have reached out for help sooner. Somehow, I think she probably did, but was not taken seriously.
    The youngest two were completely ignored. One was ignored to death. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.

  • Kathy

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    I just don’t understand why the 14 year old did not call sooner. I’m not blaming her, but at 14, I was the one responsible for my two younger sisters most of the time due to my parents work schedules. You would think that she knew something was wrong and would have reached out for help sooner. Somehow, I think she probably did, but was not taken seriously.
    The youngest two were completely ignored. One was ignored to death. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.

  • Kathy

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    I just don’t understand why the 14 year old did not call sooner. I’m not blaming her, but at 14, I was the one responsible for my two younger sisters most of the time due to my parents work schedules. You would think that she knew something was wrong and would have reached out for help sooner. Somehow, I think she probably did, but was not taken seriously.
    The youngest two were completely ignored. One was ignored to death. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I have wondered about the older daughter too. Her pics on Kristin’s Myspace are sweet, but I can’t imagine what she was thinking. At fourteen I was responsible for my brothers at times, and I knew how to change diapers – unless there weren’t any in the house, which is possible. I’m not blaming her either, but it does make you wonder what was happening to cause the oldest child not to call until it was way too late.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I have wondered about the older daughter too. Her pics on Kristin’s Myspace are sweet, but I can’t imagine what she was thinking. At fourteen I was responsible for my brothers at times, and I knew how to change diapers – unless there weren’t any in the house, which is possible. I’m not blaming her either, but it does make you wonder what was happening to cause the oldest child not to call until it was way too late.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I have wondered about the older daughter too. Her pics on Kristin’s Myspace are sweet, but I can’t imagine what she was thinking. At fourteen I was responsible for my brothers at times, and I knew how to change diapers – unless there weren’t any in the house, which is possible. I’m not blaming her either, but it does make you wonder what was happening to cause the oldest child not to call until it was way too late.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    I have wondered about the older daughter too. Her pics on Kristin’s Myspace are sweet, but I can’t imagine what she was thinking. At fourteen I was responsible for my brothers at times, and I knew how to change diapers – unless there weren’t any in the house, which is possible. I’m not blaming her either, but it does make you wonder what was happening to cause the oldest child not to call until it was way too late.

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • feisty76

    Kristin Phillips’ Myspace has multiple pictures of her children, but this is the one that gets me: little Alexis of the beautiful smile. How do you ignore this baby until she’s dead?

    Or the other photo where she is eating sweet potatoes? Being fed, cared for… WTF happened?

  • Angel

    After seeing that picture of Alexis in her bouncy seat, I had to get a new box of tissues for my computer desk. Good God Almighty! How can you NOT love such a sweet and beautiful baby? And what kind of person would just sit and watch the baby die? It blows my tiny little mind!

    As for the fourteen year old; if the mother was having a psychotic break, or suffering psychosis in any form, the girl might have felt threatened by her. Or maybe the trauma of watching her mother deteriorate to the point she was found in was too much for the child to process. Some adults simply ‘shut down’ in times of extreme stress, why would an adolescent be any different?

    I’m curious to know how long it had been since the mother had either been seen outside the home, or had visitors. Military installations in general (and Army bases especially) are notorious for insisting on clean dwellings. You can be fined for simply having your grass a millimeter higher than regs. That’s one reason I never wanted to live on base. With all of my hellions, I would have to be smoking crack just to have the energy to keep up with cleaning all the messes my kids make! So, it’s strange to me that her home was allowed to degenerate into such a sorry state.

  • Angel

    After seeing that picture of Alexis in her bouncy seat, I had to get a new box of tissues for my computer desk. Good God Almighty! How can you NOT love such a sweet and beautiful baby? And what kind of person would just sit and watch the baby die? It blows my tiny little mind!

    As for the fourteen year old; if the mother was having a psychotic break, or suffering psychosis in any form, the girl might have felt threatened by her. Or maybe the trauma of watching her mother deteriorate to the point she was found in was too much for the child to process. Some adults simply ‘shut down’ in times of extreme stress, why would an adolescent be any different?

    I’m curious to know how long it had been since the mother had either been seen outside the home, or had visitors. Military installations in general (and Army bases especially) are notorious for insisting on clean dwellings. You can be fined for simply having your grass a millimeter higher than regs. That’s one reason I never wanted to live on base. With all of my hellions, I would have to be smoking crack just to have the energy to keep up with cleaning all the messes my kids make! So, it’s strange to me that her home was allowed to degenerate into such a sorry state.

  • Angel

    After seeing that picture of Alexis in her bouncy seat, I had to get a new box of tissues for my computer desk. Good God Almighty! How can you NOT love such a sweet and beautiful baby? And what kind of person would just sit and watch the baby die? It blows my tiny little mind!

    As for the fourteen year old; if the mother was having a psychotic break, or suffering psychosis in any form, the girl might have felt threatened by her. Or maybe the trauma of watching her mother deteriorate to the point she was found in was too much for the child to process. Some adults simply ‘shut down’ in times of extreme stress, why would an adolescent be any different?

    I’m curious to know how long it had been since the mother had either been seen outside the home, or had visitors. Military installations in general (and Army bases especially) are notorious for insisting on clean dwellings. You can be fined for simply having your grass a millimeter higher than regs. That’s one reason I never wanted to live on base. With all of my hellions, I would have to be smoking crack just to have the energy to keep up with cleaning all the messes my kids make! So, it’s strange to me that her home was allowed to degenerate into such a sorry state.

  • Angel

    After seeing that picture of Alexis in her bouncy seat, I had to get a new box of tissues for my computer desk. Good God Almighty! How can you NOT love such a sweet and beautiful baby? And what kind of person would just sit and watch the baby die? It blows my tiny little mind!

    As for the fourteen year old; if the mother was having a psychotic break, or suffering psychosis in any form, the girl might have felt threatened by her. Or maybe the trauma of watching her mother deteriorate to the point she was found in was too much for the child to process. Some adults simply ‘shut down’ in times of extreme stress, why would an adolescent be any different?

    I’m curious to know how long it had been since the mother had either been seen outside the home, or had visitors. Military installations in general (and Army bases especially) are notorious for insisting on clean dwellings. You can be fined for simply having your grass a millimeter higher than regs. That’s one reason I never wanted to live on base. With all of my hellions, I would have to be smoking crack just to have the energy to keep up with cleaning all the messes my kids make! So, it’s strange to me that her home was allowed to degenerate into such a sorry state.

  • Angel

    And, oh, Good Lord, I feel so sorry for that baby’s daddy! Imagine how devastated he must have been to come home to find his child dead, and his wife locked up. Poor guy. And poor kids, too – they had to live in that nightmare!

  • Angel

    And, oh, Good Lord, I feel so sorry for that baby’s daddy! Imagine how devastated he must have been to come home to find his child dead, and his wife locked up. Poor guy. And poor kids, too – they had to live in that nightmare!

  • Angel

    And, oh, Good Lord, I feel so sorry for that baby’s daddy! Imagine how devastated he must have been to come home to find his child dead, and his wife locked up. Poor guy. And poor kids, too – they had to live in that nightmare!

  • Angel

    And, oh, Good Lord, I feel so sorry for that baby’s daddy! Imagine how devastated he must have been to come home to find his child dead, and his wife locked up. Poor guy. And poor kids, too – they had to live in that nightmare!

  • Angel

    And, oh, Good Lord, I feel so sorry for that baby’s daddy! Imagine how devastated he must have been to come home to find his child dead, and his wife locked up. Poor guy. And poor kids, too – they had to live in that nightmare!

  • Angel

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left. And I would have an only child if you could count the other two deployments, as well. Wow! Just think of all the time I spent picking up toys and fixing dinners and stuff, that I could have been relaxing with a good book. They say opportunity knocks, but you have to open the door for it…I guess I must have been in the shower when it came calling at my house. What a sorry excuse for a mother she turned out to be!

  • Angel

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left. And I would have an only child if you could count the other two deployments, as well. Wow! Just think of all the time I spent picking up toys and fixing dinners and stuff, that I could have been relaxing with a good book. They say opportunity knocks, but you have to open the door for it…I guess I must have been in the shower when it came calling at my house. What a sorry excuse for a mother she turned out to be!

  • Angel

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left. And I would have an only child if you could count the other two deployments, as well. Wow! Just think of all the time I spent picking up toys and fixing dinners and stuff, that I could have been relaxing with a good book. They say opportunity knocks, but you have to open the door for it…I guess I must have been in the shower when it came calling at my house. What a sorry excuse for a mother she turned out to be!

  • Angel

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left. And I would have an only child if you could count the other two deployments, as well. Wow! Just think of all the time I spent picking up toys and fixing dinners and stuff, that I could have been relaxing with a good book. They say opportunity knocks, but you have to open the door for it…I guess I must have been in the shower when it came calling at my house. What a sorry excuse for a mother she turned out to be!

  • Angel

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left. And I would have an only child if you could count the other two deployments, as well. Wow! Just think of all the time I spent picking up toys and fixing dinners and stuff, that I could have been relaxing with a good book. They say opportunity knocks, but you have to open the door for it…I guess I must have been in the shower when it came calling at my house. What a sorry excuse for a mother she turned out to be!

  • Angel

    Ugh. I am sure there is going to be some sort of mental illness claimed here. Probably stress related due to her husband serving in Iraq.

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left. And I would have an only child if you could count the other two deployments, as well. Wow! Just think of all the time I spent picking up toys and fixing dinners and stuff, that I could have been relaxing with a good book. They say opportunity knocks, but you have to open the door for it…I guess I must have been in the shower when it came calling at my house. What a sorry excuse for a mother she turned out to be!

  • Miss. Hill

    What a beautiful baby! I’m so upset, this is so sad. If Mommy was having a mental breakdown, I still have no remorse. Get help, seek help! Beg for meds, take them, rest as much as possible. DO NOT KILL or neglect your children!!

    I’m disgusted! I get exhausted, some days are too much to handle, I love my kids they come 1st, you do what you have to! Our children rely on us, why can’t people understand this simple concept?

    I had postpartum depression after my 2nd son as well as hyperthyroidism which made me a basket case for a while. My son was colic and inconsolable alot of the time. Never not once did I neglect him or consider hurting him. I’m tired of excuses… Do the right thing or just don’t have kids!

    Just sad :(

  • Miss. Hill

    What a beautiful baby! I’m so upset, this is so sad. If Mommy was having a mental breakdown, I still have no remorse. Get help, seek help! Beg for meds, take them, rest as much as possible. DO NOT KILL or neglect your children!!

    I’m disgusted! I get exhausted, some days are too much to handle, I love my kids they come 1st, you do what you have to! Our children rely on us, why can’t people understand this simple concept?

    I had postpartum depression after my 2nd son as well as hyperthyroidism which made me a basket case for a while. My son was colic and inconsolable alot of the time. Never not once did I neglect him or consider hurting him. I’m tired of excuses… Do the right thing or just don’t have kids!

    Just sad :(

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Kathy

    If you can claim stress due to your husband being deployed to Iraq as a good excuse for killing your kid, then I should only have three left.

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    There have been studies showing that incidents of child abuse INCREASE in military families where one of the parents has been deployed. Some people just can’t handle it. Doesn’t meant that they are excused though. It is a chosen life.

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • Angel

    I never said it was a good excuse. It’s just probably going to be the one used.

    Yeah, but people who use that kind of excuse make me sick. It really does give the rest of us a bad name. You know, the ones of us who don’t beat, starve, and kill our kids….

  • michelle

    Reminds me of Harmony Jade Creech. Still waiting on her autopsy.
    *bleh*

  • michelle

    Reminds me of Harmony Jade Creech. Still waiting on her autopsy.
    *bleh*

  • michelle

    Reminds me of Harmony Jade Creech. Still waiting on her autopsy.
    *bleh*

  • michelle

    Reminds me of Harmony Jade Creech. Still waiting on her autopsy.
    *bleh*

  • michelle

    Reminds me of Harmony Jade Creech. Still waiting on her autopsy.
    *bleh*

  • michelle

    Reminds me of Harmony Jade Creech. Still waiting on her autopsy.
    *bleh*

  • mommyto3luckyme

    After hearing this being compared to the Ben Sargent car seat case I had to really decide if I should read this story. So I read the comments & looked at the MS pics first.

    Looking at the pics there really are no pics of the baby smiling other than the bouncer seat & the semi smile while being fed sweet potatoes. I think it will be blamed on mental illness but if you look at the pics of the mother there is just something in her eyes that isn’t right. Even in the first pic of her & her husband.

    So very sad :( I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

  • mommyto3luckyme

    After hearing this being compared to the Ben Sargent car seat case I had to really decide if I should read this story. So I read the comments & looked at the MS pics first.

    Looking at the pics there really are no pics of the baby smiling other than the bouncer seat & the semi smile while being fed sweet potatoes. I think it will be blamed on mental illness but if you look at the pics of the mother there is just something in her eyes that isn’t right. Even in the first pic of her & her husband.

    So very sad :( I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

  • mommyto3luckyme

    After hearing this being compared to the Ben Sargent car seat case I had to really decide if I should read this story. So I read the comments & looked at the MS pics first.

    Looking at the pics there really are no pics of the baby smiling other than the bouncer seat & the semi smile while being fed sweet potatoes. I think it will be blamed on mental illness but if you look at the pics of the mother there is just something in her eyes that isn’t right. Even in the first pic of her & her husband.

    So very sad :( I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

  • mommyto3luckyme

    After hearing this being compared to the Ben Sargent car seat case I had to really decide if I should read this story. So I read the comments & looked at the MS pics first.

    Looking at the pics there really are no pics of the baby smiling other than the bouncer seat & the semi smile while being fed sweet potatoes. I think it will be blamed on mental illness but if you look at the pics of the mother there is just something in her eyes that isn’t right. Even in the first pic of her & her husband.

    So very sad :( I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • Angel

    I wonder why there was blood in her bassinet

    Me, too.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • mommyto3luckyme

    Michelle

    I updated with the article I found on Harmony Creech

  • Jack Shizz

    Heartbreaking story. Poor baby, poor kids, poor husband :c

  • Jack Shizz

    Heartbreaking story. Poor baby, poor kids, poor husband :c

  • Jack Shizz

    Heartbreaking story. Poor baby, poor kids, poor husband :c

  • Unamused Cat

    She was living on base for god’s sake. Didn’t anyone see any signs that things were wrong with this woman, the condition of her house, or wonder about her kids?

  • Unamused Cat

    She was living on base for god’s sake. Didn’t anyone see any signs that things were wrong with this woman, the condition of her house, or wonder about her kids?

  • Unamused Cat

    She was living on base for god’s sake. Didn’t anyone see any signs that things were wrong with this woman, the condition of her house, or wonder about her kids?

  • WryBread

    Do military families in general have lots of kids? It seems to me that there’s usually four or more. Is there excellent financial support for the families that make having so many easier? Why do military mothers want to be in a position in which they are essentially single parents to large broods of children for many months at a time?

    I’m not criticizing at all, just wondering because it seems a common situation and perhaps that’s a misperception from what I read … I hope the military family mothers here will give me insight.

  • WryBread

    Do military families in general have lots of kids? It seems to me that there’s usually four or more. Is there excellent financial support for the families that make having so many easier? Why do military mothers want to be in a position in which they are essentially single parents to large broods of children for many months at a time?

    I’m not criticizing at all, just wondering because it seems a common situation and perhaps that’s a misperception from what I read … I hope the military family mothers here will give me insight.

  • Unamused Cat

    She was living on base for god’s sake. Didn’t anyone see any signs that things were wrong with this woman, the condition of her house, or wonder about her kids?

  • WryBread

    Do military families in general have lots of kids? It seems to me that there’s usually four or more. Is there excellent financial support for the families that make having so many easier? Why do military mothers want to be in a position in which they are essentially single parents to large broods of children for many months at a time?

    I’m not criticizing at all, just wondering because it seems a common situation and perhaps that’s a misperception from what I read … I hope the military family mothers here will give me insight.

  • momoftwins

    I’m not criticizing at all, just wondering because it seems a common situation and perhaps that’s a misperception from what I read … I hope the military family mothers here will give me insight.

    I can sort of answer that…I am ADAF, and my husband just separated after 6 years. Yes, especially young couples tend to have a lot of kids. You know we have excellent health benefits, and these very couples marry at 18, and many times they start having kids right away. We really don’t get paid that much! I get a sort of allowance for having dependents, but it doesn’t increase if I have more children. To tell the truth, we struggle sometimes paying bills with just our two.

  • momoftwins

    I’m not criticizing at all, just wondering because it seems a common situation and perhaps that’s a misperception from what I read … I hope the military family mothers here will give me insight.

    I can sort of answer that…I am ADAF, and my husband just separated after 6 years. Yes, especially young couples tend to have a lot of kids. You know we have excellent health benefits, and these very couples marry at 18, and many times they start having kids right away. We really don’t get paid that much! I get a sort of allowance for having dependents, but it doesn’t increase if I have more children. To tell the truth, we struggle sometimes paying bills with just our two.

  • Angel

    Do military families in general have lots of kids? It seems to me that there’s usually four or more. Is there excellent financial support for the families that make having so many easier? Why do military mothers want to be in a position in which they are essentially single parents to large broods of children for many months at a time?

    I don’t think the parent/child ratio of military families is any greater than in the civilian sector, you just only hear about the large ones in the news because the more kids you have, the greater the chance of doing something ‘newsworthy’. Just as in civilian life. A disproportionate number of child abusers have three or more kids. More kids = more stress = more abuse = more dead babies. My husband has been in for almost 20 years, and most of the other families I have gotten to know have between one and three kids. My husband and I are the only military family I know personally that has more than four.

    Also, the enlisted families probably have more instances of large families than do officers’ families, for the same reason that working class civilians have more kids (on average) than professional or ‘white collar’ parents. A college educated couple usually tends to put career first, and either decides to only have one or two; or they wait so late in life that they only have time to HAVE one or two. Conversely, many non-college educated parents either don’t bother to use birth control, or don’t realize the actual cost of raising a child from infancy to adulthood, and consequently have more than they can handle.

    My husband, being an officer, has a college education. He has a masters degree, and is working on his doctorate(off and on). He wanted a large family, and let me know that before we married. I said I would be willing to have as many as he could reasonably support, without his expecting me to take a job outside the home. I was very clear that I was not going to have children just to give them to a daycare facility to raise. We have six children (the oldest two from my first marriage), he provides everything we need with his job, and my job is to make sure the home and children are taken care of. I could not imagine having this many children, and trying to support them with a job that pays minimum wage, or barely above it. I also could not imagine having this many children, and having to go back into the work force myself to try and make ends meet. We live very frugally, as it is, and still have to budget for extras such as yearbooks for the kids, and extracurricular activities. I honestly have no idea how enlisted personnel can afford to provide for so many, when my husband’s salary seems to be stretched to the limits.

    As for why military wives might want to have many children when a lot of the time they are raising them alone, I have two suggestions:
    1. They have a lot of children because they mistakenly believe that more children will prevent the loneliness and fill their lives with meaning when their spouses are deployed. Kind of a “keep me busy so I won’t think about him being gone/in danger” kind of thing.; or,
    2. Every time the deployed spouse returns they fuck like bunnies to make up for not having had any for several months, and having become lax in their pill-taking while hubby was gone, wind up knocked up.

    Just for the record, I knew what I was doing each time I got pregnant (well, except maybe for the first – I was 19), and they were for the most part planned. I did not have them in order to have a distraction, but because my husband and I love children. And yes, we do fuck like bunnies when he returns from a long deployment, but that never had anything to do with the number of kids we have; as I said, they were planned and wanted.

    I hope this helps, Wry. It’s just my opinion based on my personal observations, but I think it makes sense….

  • Angel

    Do military families in general have lots of kids? It seems to me that there’s usually four or more. Is there excellent financial support for the families that make having so many easier? Why do military mothers want to be in a position in which they are essentially single parents to large broods of children for many months at a time?

    I don’t think the parent/child ratio of military families is any greater than in the civilian sector, you just only hear about the large ones in the news because the more kids you have, the greater the chance of doing something ‘newsworthy’. Just as in civilian life. A disproportionate number of child abusers have three or more kids. More kids = more stress = more abuse = more dead babies. My husband has been in for almost 20 years, and most of the other families I have gotten to know have between one and three kids. My husband and I are the only military family I know personally that has more than four.

    Also, the enlisted families probably have more instances of large families than do officers’ families, for the same reason that working class civilians have more kids (on average) than professional or ‘white collar’ parents. A college educated couple usually tends to put career first, and either decides to only have one or two; or they wait so late in life that they only have time to HAVE one or two. Conversely, many non-college educated parents either don’t bother to use birth control, or don’t realize the actual cost of raising a child from infancy to adulthood, and consequently have more than they can handle.

    My husband, being an officer, has a college education. He has a masters degree, and is working on his doctorate(off and on). He wanted a large family, and let me know that before we married. I said I would be willing to have as many as he could reasonably support, without his expecting me to take a job outside the home. I was very clear that I was not going to have children just to give them to a daycare facility to raise. We have six children (the oldest two from my first marriage), he provides everything we need with his job, and my job is to make sure the home and children are taken care of. I could not imagine having this many children, and trying to support them with a job that pays minimum wage, or barely above it. I also could not imagine having this many children, and having to go back into the work force myself to try and make ends meet. We live very frugally, as it is, and still have to budget for extras such as yearbooks for the kids, and extracurricular activities. I honestly have no idea how enlisted personnel can afford to provide for so many, when my husband’s salary seems to be stretched to the limits.

    As for why military wives might want to have many children when a lot of the time they are raising them alone, I have two suggestions:
    1. They have a lot of children because they mistakenly believe that more children will prevent the loneliness and fill their lives with meaning when their spouses are deployed. Kind of a “keep me busy so I won’t think about him being gone/in danger” kind of thing.; or,
    2. Every time the deployed spouse returns they fuck like bunnies to make up for not having had any for several months, and having become lax in their pill-taking while hubby was gone, wind up knocked up.

    Just for the record, I knew what I was doing each time I got pregnant (well, except maybe for the first – I was 19), and they were for the most part planned. I did not have them in order to have a distraction, but because my husband and I love children. And yes, we do fuck like bunnies when he returns from a long deployment, but that never had anything to do with the number of kids we have; as I said, they were planned and wanted.

    I hope this helps, Wry. It’s just my opinion based on my personal observations, but I think it makes sense….

  • Hippiepoet

    As everyone else here has stated, I am puzzled too, by the 14 yr old’s response. I watched my younger sister a lot. I was 12 when she was born and living on the farm, my stepfather was in the fields all day and my Mom worked to large gardens plus yard work, I mean we all had to pitch in. I’m not blaming her either, I am just curious as to what her thoughts were, and what the fuck was going on in the house.
    I am personally interested in the Mother’s mental health and that of the daughter as well. It seemed like zombies living with those two little ones. I mean every Mom knows a shitty fucking diaper reeks like hell, so why did this happen? I am really curious to find out more about this story.

  • Hippiepoet

    As everyone else here has stated, I am puzzled too, by the 14 yr old’s response. I watched my younger sister a lot. I was 12 when she was born and living on the farm, my stepfather was in the fields all day and my Mom worked to large gardens plus yard work, I mean we all had to pitch in. I’m not blaming her either, I am just curious as to what her thoughts were, and what the fuck was going on in the house.
    I am personally interested in the Mother’s mental health and that of the daughter as well. It seemed like zombies living with those two little ones. I mean every Mom knows a shitty fucking diaper reeks like hell, so why did this happen? I am really curious to find out more about this story.

  • momoftwins

    Angel, I ususally agree with everything you say, but I have to say I kind of take offense to the below passage.

    Also, the enlisted families probably have more instances of large families than do officers’ families, for the same reason that working class civilians have more kids (on average) than professional or ‘white collar’ parents. A college educated couple usually tends to put career first, and either decides to only have one or two; or they wait so late in life that they only have time to HAVE one or two. Conversely, many non-college educated parents either don’t bother to use birth control, or don’t realize the actual cost of raising a child from infancy to adulthood, and consequently have more than they can handle.

    I’m enlisted and have been in for 6 years, I consider myself very educated and intelligent. Maybe I don’t have a college degree, but that doesn’t make me any less intelligent. And I’m sure you weren’t talking about me personally, but I don’t think its fair to generalize in that way. I don’t consider myself “working class”, as opposed to officers being”white collar”. Just my opinion…btw, many enlisted actually have college degrees, but don’t want to become officers. Like the old joke says”Don’t call me sir, I actually work for a living”.

  • momoftwins

    Angel, I ususally agree with everything you say, but I have to say I kind of take offense to the below passage.

    Also, the enlisted families probably have more instances of large families than do officers’ families, for the same reason that working class civilians have more kids (on average) than professional or ‘white collar’ parents. A college educated couple usually tends to put career first, and either decides to only have one or two; or they wait so late in life that they only have time to HAVE one or two. Conversely, many non-college educated parents either don’t bother to use birth control, or don’t realize the actual cost of raising a child from infancy to adulthood, and consequently have more than they can handle.

    I’m enlisted and have been in for 6 years, I consider myself very educated and intelligent. Maybe I don’t have a college degree, but that doesn’t make me any less intelligent. And I’m sure you weren’t talking about me personally, but I don’t think its fair to generalize in that way. I don’t consider myself “working class”, as opposed to officers being”white collar”. Just my opinion…btw, many enlisted actually have college degrees, but don’t want to become officers. Like the old joke says”Don’t call me sir, I actually work for a living”.

  • momoftwins

    Sorry! I spelled usually wrong! Maybe I’m not as smart as I think I am LOL!

  • momoftwins

    Sorry! I spelled usually wrong! Maybe I’m not as smart as I think I am LOL!

  • Unamused Cat

    Their MySpaces are now private.

  • Unamused Cat

    Their MySpaces are now private.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    Their MySpaces are now private.

    Damn, y’know, seven or eight hundred hits to a link the mainstream press doesn’t have and people just get all testy.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    Their MySpaces are now private.

    Damn, y’know, seven or eight hundred hits to a link the mainstream press doesn’t have and people just get all testy.

  • Angel

    Momoftwins,
    I tried to be very careful in the way I worded my statements to avoid this particular misunderstanding.

    I’m enlisted and have been in for 6 years, I consider myself very educated and intelligent. Maybe I don’t have a college degree, but that doesn’t make me any less intelligent. And I’m sure you weren’t talking about me personally, but I don’t think its fair to generalize in that way. I don’t consider myself “working class”, as opposed to officers being”white collar”. Just my opinion…btw, many enlisted actually have college degrees, but don’t want to become officers. Like the old joke says”Don’t call me sir, I actually work for a living”.

    I was no more suggesting that you are unintelligent than I was condemning all college grads for putting career first. I can tell by your posts that you are VERY intelligent. College doesn’t produce intelligence; intelligence is genetic, and no amount of college can make an idiot smart – it can only produce an idiot with a degree. I used words like ‘many’ and ‘usually’, instead of ‘most’ and ‘always’. It is a comparison, not an indictment.

    BTW, I don’t have a college degree, either. I have taken several courses, but I decided that taking care of my kids took precedence over continuing my education. And for that reason I have been heartily condemned by members of my own family, who consider my choice to be tantamount to ‘throwing my life away’. I could care less what they think, however, because I am doing with my life the thing I love most.

    On average, child parent ratios are as I stated in the paragraph you quoted. I don’t believe that all, or even most, enlisted personnel are there because they can’t do any better. My father was enlisted, and in the Green Beret, and a paratrooper. And he is one of the most intelligent people I have ever known. He also had a college degree, and chose to remain enlisted, so he could continue doing what he loved. And, truthfully, I would rather be in a room full of enlisted people, than around a bunch of officers, anyway. Most officers are pompous snobs. And I meant to say ‘most’ in that sentence. I think it must be a part of OCS training. A class called, “How to look down your nose at others”. LOL. My husband is not like that, though, because I’d have to kick his ass.
    I’m sorry if you took my words the wrong way.

  • Angel

    Momoftwins,
    I tried to be very careful in the way I worded my statements to avoid this particular misunderstanding.

    I’m enlisted and have been in for 6 years, I consider myself very educated and intelligent. Maybe I don’t have a college degree, but that doesn’t make me any less intelligent. And I’m sure you weren’t talking about me personally, but I don’t think its fair to generalize in that way. I don’t consider myself “working class”, as opposed to officers being”white collar”. Just my opinion…btw, many enlisted actually have college degrees, but don’t want to become officers. Like the old joke says”Don’t call me sir, I actually work for a living”.

    I was no more suggesting that you are unintelligent than I was condemning all college grads for putting career first. I can tell by your posts that you are VERY intelligent. College doesn’t produce intelligence; intelligence is genetic, and no amount of college can make an idiot smart – it can only produce an idiot with a degree. I used words like ‘many’ and ‘usually’, instead of ‘most’ and ‘always’. It is a comparison, not an indictment.

    BTW, I don’t have a college degree, either. I have taken several courses, but I decided that taking care of my kids took precedence over continuing my education. And for that reason I have been heartily condemned by members of my own family, who consider my choice to be tantamount to ‘throwing my life away’. I could care less what they think, however, because I am doing with my life the thing I love most.

    On average, child parent ratios are as I stated in the paragraph you quoted. I don’t believe that all, or even most, enlisted personnel are there because they can’t do any better. My father was enlisted, and in the Green Beret, and a paratrooper. And he is one of the most intelligent people I have ever known. He also had a college degree, and chose to remain enlisted, so he could continue doing what he loved. And, truthfully, I would rather be in a room full of enlisted people, than around a bunch of officers, anyway. Most officers are pompous snobs. And I meant to say ‘most’ in that sentence. I think it must be a part of OCS training. A class called, “How to look down your nose at others”. LOL. My husband is not like that, though, because I’d have to kick his ass.
    I’m sorry if you took my words the wrong way.

  • Angel

    And, P.S., my husband was enlisted when I met him. He only agreed to become an officer because that was required in order for him to become a nav on the B-1. And he had wanted to fly since he was a kid. :D

  • Angel

    And, P.S., my husband was enlisted when I met him. He only agreed to become an officer because that was required in order for him to become a nav on the B-1. And he had wanted to fly since he was a kid. :D

  • Angel

    Sorry! I spelled usually wrong! Maybe I’m not as smart as I think I am LOL!

    I had to go back and look TWICE at that comment (after you pointed it out), to find the error myself! *giggle* I think it was probably just a typo, though.

  • Angel

    Sorry! I spelled usually wrong! Maybe I’m not as smart as I think I am LOL!

    I had to go back and look TWICE at that comment (after you pointed it out), to find the error myself! *giggle* I think it was probably just a typo, though.

  • momoftwins

    And, truthfully, I would rather be in a room full of enlisted people, than around a bunch of officers, anyway. Most officers are pompous snobs. And I meant to say ‘most’ in that sentence. I think it must be a part of OCS training. A class called, “How to look down your nose at others”. LOL.
    LOL!!!I didn’t want to say it but I’m glad you did!!!

  • momoftwins

    And, truthfully, I would rather be in a room full of enlisted people, than around a bunch of officers, anyway. Most officers are pompous snobs. And I meant to say ‘most’ in that sentence. I think it must be a part of OCS training. A class called, “How to look down your nose at others”. LOL.
    LOL!!!I didn’t want to say it but I’m glad you did!!!

  • momoftwins

    Wow, I messed that one up. You’re awesome Angel!

  • momoftwins

    Wow, I messed that one up. You’re awesome Angel!

  • Angel

    Wow, I messed that one up. You’re awesome Angel!

    *nods* *bows* *waves to adoring fans* LOL. Yeah, snobs make me wanna hurl! :D Besides, my nose isn’t long enough to look down. I think you have to apply for a special nose for just that purpose. And with all my kids, I cant afford the plastic surgery!

  • Angel

    Wow, I messed that one up. You’re awesome Angel!

    *nods* *bows* *waves to adoring fans* LOL. Yeah, snobs make me wanna hurl! :D Besides, my nose isn’t long enough to look down. I think you have to apply for a special nose for just that purpose. And with all my kids, I cant afford the plastic surgery!

  • WryBread

    Thanks to the military mothers for giving me some insight. I think you’re right, Angel, that the big families tend to do things that end up as newsworthy simply because there are so many more people in the situation. Well, my hat is off to the spouses of military personnel. It’s a hard road in many ways.

  • WryBread

    Thanks to the military mothers for giving me some insight. I think you’re right, Angel, that the big families tend to do things that end up as newsworthy simply because there are so many more people in the situation. Well, my hat is off to the spouses of military personnel. It’s a hard road in many ways.

  • Angel

    It’s a hard road in many ways.

    But worth it every step of the way, in my opinion. And thanks for the thanks, Wry! It’s nice hear appreciation sometimes, as opposed to all of the anti-war crew slamming our good men and women.

  • Angel

    It’s a hard road in many ways.

    But worth it every step of the way, in my opinion. And thanks for the thanks, Wry! It’s nice hear appreciation sometimes, as opposed to all of the anti-war crew slamming our good men and women.

  • AnalBreeze

    I don’t care how bad your life is, You take care of your fuckin’ kids! I’ve been havin’ a run of bad luck for about 5 years now… I didn’t kill my 8 year old son! I didn’t even kill my three step sons! I never even thought about it! Ok, maybe 1 of my step sons. But I didn’t do it! Sick is sick and stupid is stupid…. There are alot of stupid people in the world who are to lazy to take responsibility so pretend to be sick! The kid is difinately in a better place!

  • AnalBreeze

    I don’t care how bad your life is, You take care of your fuckin’ kids! I’ve been havin’ a run of bad luck for about 5 years now… I didn’t kill my 8 year old son! I didn’t even kill my three step sons! I never even thought about it! Ok, maybe 1 of my step sons. But I didn’t do it! Sick is sick and stupid is stupid…. There are alot of stupid people in the world who are to lazy to take responsibility so pretend to be sick! The kid is difinately in a better place!

  • anneinchicago

    I’m going to say I’m not going to rush to judgment until I know more.

    This woman lived on an Army base. Someone should have noticed something before it got this far. The fourteen year old I know must have noticed something.
    I’m going to say I think this woman needs help and she didn’t get it.

    Someone said this woman should have sought help for herself. Not all people who are mentally ill realize something is wrong. Or, if they do, are so ill they do not how how to seek that help.

    I am not trying to insult the military or any military personnel who are here on this bard and reading this. The following comment is made by someone who is not military or who even knows someone in the military. All I know is what I’ve seen in news reports.

    Something seems to stink in some of those military bases, at least as far as news reports I’ve read would have me believe. Spousal abuse seems to be more common. Rape. Then there is the celebrated case of a female marine raped by another Marine. Her charges were ignored. She’s now dead as is her unborn baby.

    Something went wrong. Someone should have noticed. Normally I’m all for eviscerating these bastards, but until I know more, I’m going to hold off for now.

  • anneinchicago

    I’m going to say I’m not going to rush to judgment until I know more.

    This woman lived on an Army base. Someone should have noticed something before it got this far. The fourteen year old I know must have noticed something.
    I’m going to say I think this woman needs help and she didn’t get it.

    Someone said this woman should have sought help for herself. Not all people who are mentally ill realize something is wrong. Or, if they do, are so ill they do not how how to seek that help.

    I am not trying to insult the military or any military personnel who are here on this bard and reading this. The following comment is made by someone who is not military or who even knows someone in the military. All I know is what I’ve seen in news reports.

    Something seems to stink in some of those military bases, at least as far as news reports I’ve read would have me believe. Spousal abuse seems to be more common. Rape. Then there is the celebrated case of a female marine raped by another Marine. Her charges were ignored. She’s now dead as is her unborn baby.

    Something went wrong. Someone should have noticed. Normally I’m all for eviscerating these bastards, but until I know more, I’m going to hold off for now.

  • PleaseJust

    This is very sad. I’ve lurked for months, and for the first time, I just could not stop myself from saying: Please. Just. Let. Me. Have. That. Baby. Even just for a little while.

    Horrors committed by mentally ill parents—are they on the rise, or are we just hearing about them more these days?

    God bless the spirits of everyone in this sad, sad story, along with their extended family, friends, neighbors, teachers, and even the enemies of the army for which the surely devasted father serves. That army serves us. Where are we? Where are you?

    I know I can do more.

  • PleaseJust

    This is very sad. I’ve lurked for months, and for the first time, I just could not stop myself from saying: Please. Just. Let. Me. Have. That. Baby. Even just for a little while.

    Horrors committed by mentally ill parents—are they on the rise, or are we just hearing about them more these days?

    God bless the spirits of everyone in this sad, sad story, along with their extended family, friends, neighbors, teachers, and even the enemies of the army for which the surely devasted father serves. That army serves us. Where are we? Where are you?

    I know I can do more.

  • bornagainpagan

    She was living on base for god’s sake. Didn’t anyone see any signs that things were wrong with this woman, the condition of her house, or wonder about her kids?

    Exactly. This wasn’t a sudden act (unless it was a massive psychotic break due to drugs) – it has all the hallmarks of a caregiver losing her marbles over time, and the abuse/neglect would have been the same. Where were the friends/neighbours/teachers/chaplains – even the bloody Jehovah Witnesses, for Chrissake? I can understand the bind for the 14 yr old – but hell, she would have been radiating symptoms of distress and anxiety. Someone, anyone, must have been concerned but didn’t act – community denial? minimisation? group effect? (thinking someone else will do something). These responses will be more interesting than those from what’s left of Kristin’s mind.

  • bornagainpagan

    She was living on base for god’s sake. Didn’t anyone see any signs that things were wrong with this woman, the condition of her house, or wonder about her kids?

    Exactly. This wasn’t a sudden act (unless it was a massive psychotic break due to drugs) – it has all the hallmarks of a caregiver losing her marbles over time, and the abuse/neglect would have been the same. Where were the friends/neighbours/teachers/chaplains – even the bloody Jehovah Witnesses, for Chrissake? I can understand the bind for the 14 yr old – but hell, she would have been radiating symptoms of distress and anxiety. Someone, anyone, must have been concerned but didn’t act – community denial? minimisation? group effect? (thinking someone else will do something). These responses will be more interesting than those from what’s left of Kristin’s mind.

  • Concetta

    I’m a long time lurker from the UK, but I just had to comment on this case. I honestly think this story is different to others you normally discuss. I think this woman is severely mentally ill, and for that she perhaps needs more understanding than anything else. In the UK, I doubt this woman would be criminally charged, it would be a pretty obvious insanity plea – I really don’t think the DP is appropriate or the right ‘punishment’.

  • Concetta

    I’m a long time lurker from the UK, but I just had to comment on this case. I honestly think this story is different to others you normally discuss. I think this woman is severely mentally ill, and for that she perhaps needs more understanding than anything else. In the UK, I doubt this woman would be criminally charged, it would be a pretty obvious insanity plea – I really don’t think the DP is appropriate or the right ‘punishment’.

  • mg2

    This is MG, I haven’t posted in a while cause I lost my password, but I had to post about this one.
    I am also a military spouse, there are thousands of military spouses out there that do not break down emotionally or psychotically when their husbands deploy. There was obviously something else going on with this woman other than her husband being gone. My husband deploys, I have two kids and I am the same age as this woman. It is hard, but you do what you have to do. This life is hard, but I wouldn’t change it for anything. The military has done so much for us and we have been able to see parts of the world we would never have seen if it wasn’t for being a military family.
    I do not understand why her house was so disgusting and no one had done a welfare check on her and her children. When a military member deploys it is very common for his supervisor or someone else in his chain of command to check on the spouse and children left at home. Especially spouses that have multiple kids and a lower income. I feel so sorry for her husband, this will never be right ever again.

  • mg2

    This is MG, I haven’t posted in a while cause I lost my password, but I had to post about this one.
    I am also a military spouse, there are thousands of military spouses out there that do not break down emotionally or psychotically when their husbands deploy. There was obviously something else going on with this woman other than her husband being gone. My husband deploys, I have two kids and I am the same age as this woman. It is hard, but you do what you have to do. This life is hard, but I wouldn’t change it for anything. The military has done so much for us and we have been able to see parts of the world we would never have seen if it wasn’t for being a military family.
    I do not understand why her house was so disgusting and no one had done a welfare check on her and her children. When a military member deploys it is very common for his supervisor or someone else in his chain of command to check on the spouse and children left at home. Especially spouses that have multiple kids and a lower income. I feel so sorry for her husband, this will never be right ever again.

  • ImmortalOne

    …. Her husband has got to be going through hell. Is he back stateside after this? Is he going to be allowed to be with his other children? Did she just lose her mind and snap or something WTF? What could she possibly have been doing while that baby was dying?! Again, I’m at a loss… how does someone neglect their child to this state? Even that 2 year old? What about the older children in the home? Didn’t the 14 yr old have any interaction with the younger children? I know my 15 yr old helps with my 6 month old all the time… I guess I take forgranted that my family is “normal”.

  • ImmortalOne

    …. Her husband has got to be going through hell. Is he back stateside after this? Is he going to be allowed to be with his other children? Did she just lose her mind and snap or something WTF? What could she possibly have been doing while that baby was dying?! Again, I’m at a loss… how does someone neglect their child to this state? Even that 2 year old? What about the older children in the home? Didn’t the 14 yr old have any interaction with the younger children? I know my 15 yr old helps with my 6 month old all the time… I guess I take forgranted that my family is “normal”.

  • Wonder

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  • Kathy

    Two dead babies?

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

  • Kathy

    Two dead babies?

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

  • Kathy

    Two dead babies?

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

  • Kathy

    Two dead babies?

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

  • Kathy

    Two dead babies?

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

  • Concetta

    Still think she’s mentally ill. Mad not bad. She could well have some psychosis related to pregnancy and child rearing. I am amazed that they let her reproduce after the first incident, as killing her baby like that shows frank mental disorder. Or let her ‘keep’ any other children she bore. Would they not put a lot of pressure on her to have her tubes tied? They would in the UK, I think, and the remaining children would be removed from her care, I’m sure of it.

    You have to feel so sorry for the other children involved, what a warped view of life and child rearing they are going to have.

  • Concetta

    Still think she’s mentally ill. Mad not bad. She could well have some psychosis related to pregnancy and child rearing. I am amazed that they let her reproduce after the first incident, as killing her baby like that shows frank mental disorder. Or let her ‘keep’ any other children she bore. Would they not put a lot of pressure on her to have her tubes tied? They would in the UK, I think, and the remaining children would be removed from her care, I’m sure of it.

    You have to feel so sorry for the other children involved, what a warped view of life and child rearing they are going to have.

  • Concetta

    Still think she’s mentally ill. Mad not bad. She could well have some psychosis related to pregnancy and child rearing. I am amazed that they let her reproduce after the first incident, as killing her baby like that shows frank mental disorder. Or let her ‘keep’ any other children she bore. Would they not put a lot of pressure on her to have her tubes tied? They would in the UK, I think, and the remaining children would be removed from her care, I’m sure of it.

    You have to feel so sorry for the other children involved, what a warped view of life and child rearing they are going to have.

  • Concetta

    Still think she’s mentally ill. Mad not bad. She could well have some psychosis related to pregnancy and child rearing. I am amazed that they let her reproduce after the first incident, as killing her baby like that shows frank mental disorder. Or let her ‘keep’ any other children she bore. Would they not put a lot of pressure on her to have her tubes tied? They would in the UK, I think, and the remaining children would be removed from her care, I’m sure of it.

    You have to feel so sorry for the other children involved, what a warped view of life and child rearing they are going to have.

  • Concetta

    Still think she’s mentally ill. Mad not bad. She could well have some psychosis related to pregnancy and child rearing. I am amazed that they let her reproduce after the first incident, as killing her baby like that shows frank mental disorder. Or let her ‘keep’ any other children she bore. Would they not put a lot of pressure on her to have her tubes tied? They would in the UK, I think, and the remaining children would be removed from her care, I’m sure of it.

    You have to feel so sorry for the other children involved, what a warped view of life and child rearing they are going to have.

  • LeeMouse

    Concetta–The US has specific high court rulings against ordering someone to be sterilized against their will (Buck v. Bell) and against taking someone’s reproductive decisions out of their hands (in Re: AC). Which is why, no matter how much it might be wished for, we won’t ever see forcible or mandated birth control, as the right to reproduce is seen as a Constitutionally protected right.

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly? 23 is a little old to be freaking out over a pregnancy–especially when you’ve already got kids. When I saw the update, I was expecting it was going to be another “dead baby at the prom” story, not a 23-yr old mother.

    How much do you want to bet the current husband knew nothing of her background in this? Her family should have warned every man she came in contact with (psst…buddy…wear a condom! She’s wack!).

  • LeeMouse

    Concetta–The US has specific high court rulings against ordering someone to be sterilized against their will (Buck v. Bell) and against taking someone’s reproductive decisions out of their hands (in Re: AC). Which is why, no matter how much it might be wished for, we won’t ever see forcible or mandated birth control, as the right to reproduce is seen as a Constitutionally protected right.

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly? 23 is a little old to be freaking out over a pregnancy–especially when you’ve already got kids. When I saw the update, I was expecting it was going to be another “dead baby at the prom” story, not a 23-yr old mother.

    How much do you want to bet the current husband knew nothing of her background in this? Her family should have warned every man she came in contact with (psst…buddy…wear a condom! She’s wack!).

  • LeeMouse

    UPDATE 3/1/8/08 – The Springfield News-Leader broke the story this morning that Kristin Phillips has yet another dead baby in her past, when her last name was Matheny. That baby, Austin Daniel Matheny, was born in her parents’ basement when Kristin Matheny (now Phillips) was 23 years old. She already had two daughters, aged three adn five, at that time. Kristin concealed the pregnancy, gave birth in the home, then tied the baby’s umbilical cord off with pantyhose and put him in a shoebox with a stuffed toy and an air freshener. Four months later, her mother found the box, confronted Kristin, and called police.

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby by one man, the 3-yr old she lost custody of by another man, the now 14-yr old by yet another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly? 23 is a little old to be freaking out over a pregnancy–especially when you’ve already got kids. When I saw the update, I was expecting it was going to be another “dead baby at the prom” story, not a 23-yr old mother.

  • LeeMouse

    UPDATE 3/1/8/08 – The Springfield News-Leader broke the story this morning that Kristin Phillips has yet another dead baby in her past, when her last name was Matheny. That baby, Austin Daniel Matheny, was born in her parents’ basement when Kristin Matheny (now Phillips) was 23 years old. She already had two daughters, aged three adn five, at that time. Kristin concealed the pregnancy, gave birth in the home, then tied the baby’s umbilical cord off with pantyhose and put him in a shoebox with a stuffed toy and an air freshener. Four months later, her mother found the box, confronted Kristin, and called police.

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby by one man, the 3-yr old she lost custody of by another man, the now 14-yr old by yet another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly? 23 is a little old to be freaking out over a pregnancy–especially when you’ve already got kids. When I saw the update, I was expecting it was going to be another “dead baby at the prom” story, not a 23-yr old mother.

  • LeeMouse

    UPDATE 3/1/8/08 – The Springfield News-Leader broke the story this morning that Kristin Phillips has yet another dead baby in her past, when her last name was Matheny. That baby, Austin Daniel Matheny, was born in her parents’ basement when Kristin Matheny (now Phillips) was 23 years old. She already had two daughters, aged three adn five, at that time. Kristin concealed the pregnancy, gave birth in the home, then tied the baby’s umbilical cord off with pantyhose and put him in a shoebox with a stuffed toy and an air freshener. Four months later, her mother found the box, confronted Kristin, and called police.

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby by one man, the 3-yr old she lost custody of by another man, the now 14-yr old by yet another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly? 23 is a little old to be freaking out over a pregnancy–especially when you’ve already got kids. When I saw the update, I was expecting it was going to be another “dead baby at the prom” story, not a 23-yr old mother.

  • LeeMouse

    UPDATE 3/1/8/08 – The Springfield News-Leader broke the story this morning that Kristin Phillips has yet another dead baby in her past, when her last name was Matheny. That baby, Austin Daniel Matheny, was born in her parents’ basement when Kristin Matheny (now Phillips) was 23 years old. She already had two daughters, aged three adn five, at that time. Kristin concealed the pregnancy, gave birth in the home, then tied the baby’s umbilical cord off with pantyhose and put him in a shoebox with a stuffed toy and an air freshener. Four months later, her mother found the box, confronted Kristin, and called police.

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby by one man, the 3-yr old she lost custody of by another man, the now 14-yr old by yet another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly? 23 is a little old to be freaking out over a pregnancy–especially when you’ve already got kids. When I saw the update, I was expecting it was going to be another “dead baby at the prom” story, not a 23-yr old mother.

  • Angel

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly?

    Are we sure the three year old and the dead baby had the same father? I mean, she was living with her mother when she had it, and the father of the three year old was presumably not there. So, there may be four fathers involved.

    I agree, she needs to be fried, sauteed, baked, boiled…..what ever it takes to prevent her from killing another baby.

  • Angel

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly?

    Are we sure the three year old and the dead baby had the same father? I mean, she was living with her mother when she had it, and the father of the three year old was presumably not there. So, there may be four fathers involved.

    I agree, she needs to be fried, sauteed, baked, boiled…..what ever it takes to prevent her from killing another baby.

  • Angel

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly?

    Are we sure the three year old and the dead baby had the same father? I mean, she was living with her mother when she had it, and the father of the three year old was presumably not there. So, there may be four fathers involved.

    I agree, she needs to be fried, sauteed, baked, boiled…..what ever it takes to prevent her from killing another baby.

  • Angel

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly?

    Are we sure the three year old and the dead baby had the same father? I mean, she was living with her mother when she had it, and the father of the three year old was presumably not there. So, there may be four fathers involved.

    I agree, she needs to be fried, sauteed, baked, boiled…..what ever it takes to prevent her from killing another baby.

  • Angel

    How many men has this woman had children by? The earlier dead baby and 3-yr old were by one man, the now 14-yr old by another, and the youngest by the military husband? Am I reading that correctly?

    Are we sure the three year old and the dead baby had the same father? I mean, she was living with her mother when she had it, and the father of the three year old was presumably not there. So, there may be four fathers involved.

    I agree, she needs to be fried, sauteed, baked, boiled…..what ever it takes to prevent her from killing another baby.

  • Concetta

    Thanks for the info Leemouse, re: reproductive rights. I mean she couldn’t be forced over here, but she would have a lot of pressure to do so from health professionals. I’m also bemused that her own family, or people who knew her, didn’t advise the new partner of her previous conviction, or even tell her to get her bloody tubes tied. Incredible.

  • Concetta

    Thanks for the info Leemouse, re: reproductive rights. I mean she couldn’t be forced over here, but she would have a lot of pressure to do so from health professionals. I’m also bemused that her own family, or people who knew her, didn’t advise the new partner of her previous conviction, or even tell her to get her bloody tubes tied. Incredible.

  • Concetta

    Thanks for the info Leemouse, re: reproductive rights. I mean she couldn’t be forced over here, but she would have a lot of pressure to do so from health professionals. I’m also bemused that her own family, or people who knew her, didn’t advise the new partner of her previous conviction, or even tell her to get her bloody tubes tied. Incredible.

  • Concetta

    Thanks for the info Leemouse, re: reproductive rights. I mean she couldn’t be forced over here, but she would have a lot of pressure to do so from health professionals. I’m also bemused that her own family, or people who knew her, didn’t advise the new partner of her previous conviction, or even tell her to get her bloody tubes tied. Incredible.

  • Concetta

    Thanks for the info Leemouse, re: reproductive rights. I mean she couldn’t be forced over here, but she would have a lot of pressure to do so from health professionals. I’m also bemused that her own family, or people who knew her, didn’t advise the new partner of her previous conviction, or even tell her to get her bloody tubes tied. Incredible.

  • Jack Shizz

    Wow, she only got 90 f*cking days for her first murder?
    Un-be-LIEV-able

  • Jack Shizz

    Wow, she only got 90 f*cking days for her first murder?
    Un-be-LIEV-able

  • Jack Shizz

    Wow, she only got 90 f*cking days for her first murder?
    Un-be-LIEV-able

  • Jack Shizz

    Wow, she only got 90 f*cking days for her first murder?
    Un-be-LIEV-able

  • solange822001

    Concetta–The US has specific high court rulings against ordering someone to be sterilized against their will (Buck v. Bell) and against taking someone’s reproductive decisions out of their hands (in Re: AC). Which is why, no matter how much it might be wished for, we won’t ever see forcible or mandated birth control, as the right to reproduce is seen as a Constitutionally protected right.

    Well, as an AMerican, I think that needs to change. I would GLADLY vote to have the reproductive rights of people withheld or taken away until they can prove that they are capable of caring for a child.

    If that is true that in the UK they can do that, I think it’s time for me to move there. I’m sick of reading all these horrific abuse stories. Everyone is so concerned about the parent’s rights, what about the children’s right to live? And not be murdered by some maniacal sick parent?

  • solange822001

    Concetta–The US has specific high court rulings against ordering someone to be sterilized against their will (Buck v. Bell) and against taking someone’s reproductive decisions out of their hands (in Re: AC). Which is why, no matter how much it might be wished for, we won’t ever see forcible or mandated birth control, as the right to reproduce is seen as a Constitutionally protected right.

    Well, as an AMerican, I think that needs to change. I would GLADLY vote to have the reproductive rights of people withheld or taken away until they can prove that they are capable of caring for a child.

    If that is true that in the UK they can do that, I think it’s time for me to move there. I’m sick of reading all these horrific abuse stories. Everyone is so concerned about the parent’s rights, what about the children’s right to live? And not be murdered by some maniacal sick parent?

  • solange822001

    Concetta–The US has specific high court rulings against ordering someone to be sterilized against their will (Buck v. Bell) and against taking someone’s reproductive decisions out of their hands (in Re: AC). Which is why, no matter how much it might be wished for, we won’t ever see forcible or mandated birth control, as the right to reproduce is seen as a Constitutionally protected right.

    Well, as an AMerican, I think that needs to change. I would GLADLY vote to have the reproductive rights of people withheld or taken away until they can prove that they are capable of caring for a child.

    If that is true that in the UK they can do that, I think it’s time for me to move there. I’m sick of reading all these horrific abuse stories. Everyone is so concerned about the parent’s rights, what about the children’s right to live? And not be murdered by some maniacal sick parent?

  • solange822001

    Concetta–The US has specific high court rulings against ordering someone to be sterilized against their will (Buck v. Bell) and against taking someone’s reproductive decisions out of their hands (in Re: AC). Which is why, no matter how much it might be wished for, we won’t ever see forcible or mandated birth control, as the right to reproduce is seen as a Constitutionally protected right.

    Well, as an AMerican, I think that needs to change. I would GLADLY vote to have the reproductive rights of people withheld or taken away until they can prove that they are capable of caring for a child.

    If that is true that in the UK they can do that, I think it’s time for me to move there. I’m sick of reading all these horrific abuse stories. Everyone is so concerned about the parent’s rights, what about the children’s right to live? And not be murdered by some maniacal sick parent?

  • Concetta

    No, no – sorry you got the wrong end of the stick, we don’t forcibly sterilise people over here! But in this sort of situation, I believe that she would have been advised to have her tubes tied, the children taken off her at least for some time and close supervision if she ever had her childrens’ custody again.

    I ain’t saying we’re perfect. Don’t worry we have our fair share of pretty horrible abuse cases over here as well. Google ‘Victoria Climbie’, if you want to read about one of our most famous court cases in recent years. It will make your heart bleed.

  • Concetta

    No, no – sorry you got the wrong end of the stick, we don’t forcibly sterilise people over here! But in this sort of situation, I believe that she would have been advised to have her tubes tied, the children taken off her at least for some time and close supervision if she ever had her childrens’ custody again.

    I ain’t saying we’re perfect. Don’t worry we have our fair share of pretty horrible abuse cases over here as well. Google ‘Victoria Climbie’, if you want to read about one of our most famous court cases in recent years. It will make your heart bleed.

  • Concetta

    No, no – sorry you got the wrong end of the stick, we don’t forcibly sterilise people over here! But in this sort of situation, I believe that she would have been advised to have her tubes tied, the children taken off her at least for some time and close supervision if she ever had her childrens’ custody again.

    I ain’t saying we’re perfect. Don’t worry we have our fair share of pretty horrible abuse cases over here as well. Google ‘Victoria Climbie’, if you want to read about one of our most famous court cases in recent years. It will make your heart bleed.

  • Concetta

    No, no – sorry you got the wrong end of the stick, we don’t forcibly sterilise people over here! But in this sort of situation, I believe that she would have been advised to have her tubes tied, the children taken off her at least for some time and close supervision if she ever had her childrens’ custody again.

    I ain’t saying we’re perfect. Don’t worry we have our fair share of pretty horrible abuse cases over here as well. Google ‘Victoria Climbie’, if you want to read about one of our most famous court cases in recent years. It will make your heart bleed.

  • Concetta

    No, no – sorry you got the wrong end of the stick, we don’t forcibly sterilise people over here! But in this sort of situation, I believe that she would have been advised to have her tubes tied, the children taken off her at least for some time and close supervision if she ever had her childrens’ custody again.

    I ain’t saying we’re perfect. Don’t worry we have our fair share of pretty horrible abuse cases over here as well. Google ‘Victoria Climbie’, if you want to read about one of our most famous court cases in recent years. It will make your heart bleed.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    copied from news-leader.com
    the father of the 3 yr old (1998) was not the father of the dead baby boy.
    How ironic that she was living in Peoria, IL the same place Ben Sargent’s fucked up mom & dad lived.

    An autopsy was unable to determine whether the baby had been born alive or stillborn as Phillips described.

    Phillips was found guilty at an April 30, 1999 trial in front of just a judge of a class A misdemeanor for failing to report the death.

    She received in-patient psychological treatment after the death was reported and continued counseling as part of her sentence, but lost custody of one of her two surviving children in June 1999.

    The father of the girl, then 3 years old, sued for sole custody after learning of the death of the baby boy, which was not his.

    It’s unclear whether Phillips’s oldest child, a girl about 5 years old in early 1999, is the 14-year-old who was present when authorities responded to Phillips’s Fort Leonard Wood home in February.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    copied from news-leader.com
    the father of the 3 yr old (1998) was not the father of the dead baby boy.
    How ironic that she was living in Peoria, IL the same place Ben Sargent’s fucked up mom & dad lived.

    An autopsy was unable to determine whether the baby had been born alive or stillborn as Phillips described.

    Phillips was found guilty at an April 30, 1999 trial in front of just a judge of a class A misdemeanor for failing to report the death.

    She received in-patient psychological treatment after the death was reported and continued counseling as part of her sentence, but lost custody of one of her two surviving children in June 1999.

    The father of the girl, then 3 years old, sued for sole custody after learning of the death of the baby boy, which was not his.

    It’s unclear whether Phillips’s oldest child, a girl about 5 years old in early 1999, is the 14-year-old who was present when authorities responded to Phillips’s Fort Leonard Wood home in February.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    copied from news-leader.com
    the father of the 3 yr old (1998) was not the father of the dead baby boy.
    How ironic that she was living in Peoria, IL the same place Ben Sargent’s fucked up mom & dad lived.

    An autopsy was unable to determine whether the baby had been born alive or stillborn as Phillips described.

    Phillips was found guilty at an April 30, 1999 trial in front of just a judge of a class A misdemeanor for failing to report the death.

    She received in-patient psychological treatment after the death was reported and continued counseling as part of her sentence, but lost custody of one of her two surviving children in June 1999.

    The father of the girl, then 3 years old, sued for sole custody after learning of the death of the baby boy, which was not his.

    It’s unclear whether Phillips’s oldest child, a girl about 5 years old in early 1999, is the 14-year-old who was present when authorities responded to Phillips’s Fort Leonard Wood home in February.

  • mommyto3luckyme

    copied from news-leader.com
    the father of the 3 yr old (1998) was not the father of the dead baby boy.
    How ironic that she was living in Peoria, IL the same place Ben Sargent’s fucked up mom & dad lived.

    An autopsy was unable to determine whether the baby had been born alive or stillborn as Phillips described.

    Phillips was found guilty at an April 30, 1999 trial in front of just a judge of a class A misdemeanor for failing to report the death.

    She received in-patient psychological treatment after the death was reported and continued counseling as part of her sentence, but lost custody of one of her two surviving children in June 1999.

    The father of the girl, then 3 years old, sued for sole custody after learning of the death of the baby boy, which was not his.

    It’s unclear whether Phillips’s oldest child, a girl about 5 years old in early 1999, is the 14-year-old who was present when authorities responded to Phillips’s Fort Leonard Wood home in February.

  • ImmortalOne

    Now now, guys, just because a woman has a few kids by a few different men doesn’t mean there might not be a real reason behind all of that. Men are pigs too.

  • ImmortalOne

    Now now, guys, just because a woman has a few kids by a few different men doesn’t mean there might not be a real reason behind all of that. Men are pigs too.

  • ImmortalOne

    Now now, guys, just because a woman has a few kids by a few different men doesn’t mean there might not be a real reason behind all of that. Men are pigs too.

  • ImmortalOne

    Now now, guys, just because a woman has a few kids by a few different men doesn’t mean there might not be a real reason behind all of that. Men are pigs too.

  • Angel

    Now now, guys, just because a woman has a few kids by a few different men doesn’t mean there might not be a real reason behind all of that.

    I’m sure there is a reason – because she couldn’t keep her fucking legs closed! After the first one, she presumably would know what causes that condition, and be able to avoid it if she didn’t want, or couldn’t care for any more. And since she hid the entire pregnancy of the dead baby boy, I’m guessing she wasn’t really excited about being pregnant. She should have had herself fixed if she couldn’t control her sex drive, yet didn’t want the responsibility of other children.

  • Angel

    Now now, guys, just because a woman has a few kids by a few different men doesn’t mean there might not be a real reason behind all of that.

    I’m sure there is a reason – because she couldn’t keep her fucking legs closed! After the first one, she presumably would know what causes that condition, and be able to avoid it if she didn’t want, or couldn’t care for any more. And since she hid the entire pregnancy of the dead baby boy, I’m guessing she wasn’t really excited about being pregnant. She should have had herself fixed if she couldn’t control her sex drive, yet didn’t want the responsibility of other children.

  • Lil_Mamma

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

  • Lil_Mamma

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

  • Lil_Mamma

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

  • Lil_Mamma

    Fuck insanity or all the army wife stressed out mom bullshit . Remove her reproductive organs and fry the bitch.

    I sure hope the 14 year old has someone around her that is normal. I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already think of babies as disposable.

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

  • PrivateEye

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

    I am unsure why you would think this isn’t the truth, everything that I have read on this blog was taken straight out of the affidavit so the media isn’t make up some kind of story to make this family look bad.

    As for not judging the oldest, I think the majority of the people haven’t said anything remotely negative but more along the facts of why she didn’t say anything sooner and are just curious as to what happened.

    Most people, myself included, started babysitting at a very early age. I was babysitting infants when I was 14 and had took a certifiable babysitting course at the age of 12. I think unless under certain circumstances, most 14 year olds will know when something is up or wrong. The baby was starved to death. Can you imagine being hungry for over 24 hours and just laying in your own urine that caused a severe burning rash on your legs? That is a horrible way to die! That child suffered immensely.

    As for the disposable comment, well, if you can see she was probably young when Austin was born, and that poor child was locked up in a shoe box for 4 months and then her other younger sister was left to die, and she didn’t say or notice anything wrong.. ? She had a horrible role model and one can only hope that she doesn’t repeat the actions that she saw or think that these behaviors are ‘ok’ or ‘normal’.

    If you know for a fact that these people come on here and don’t want to see them “harmed” then do something about it. Telling us that we are not allowed to discuss what the rest of the world already is, is wrong in itself. We all are entitled to our opinions and I intend on expressing mine. If they have a problem with what I say, there is a little red ‘x’ on the top right of the screen, I suggest they use it wisely.

  • PrivateEye

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

    I am unsure why you would think this isn’t the truth, everything that I have read on this blog was taken straight out of the affidavit so the media isn’t make up some kind of story to make this family look bad.

    As for not judging the oldest, I think the majority of the people haven’t said anything remotely negative but more along the facts of why she didn’t say anything sooner and are just curious as to what happened.

    Most people, myself included, started babysitting at a very early age. I was babysitting infants when I was 14 and had took a certifiable babysitting course at the age of 12. I think unless under certain circumstances, most 14 year olds will know when something is up or wrong. The baby was starved to death. Can you imagine being hungry for over 24 hours and just laying in your own urine that caused a severe burning rash on your legs? That is a horrible way to die! That child suffered immensely.

    As for the disposable comment, well, if you can see she was probably young when Austin was born, and that poor child was locked up in a shoe box for 4 months and then her other younger sister was left to die, and she didn’t say or notice anything wrong.. ? She had a horrible role model and one can only hope that she doesn’t repeat the actions that she saw or think that these behaviors are ‘ok’ or ‘normal’.

    If you know for a fact that these people come on here and don’t want to see them “harmed” then do something about it. Telling us that we are not allowed to discuss what the rest of the world already is, is wrong in itself. We all are entitled to our opinions and I intend on expressing mine. If they have a problem with what I say, there is a little red ‘x’ on the top right of the screen, I suggest they use it wisely.

  • PrivateEye

    I have been following these blogs for awhile now and I can’t keep quiet anymore. I realize everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but please keep in mind that what the media reports is their version, not necessarily the truth.
    Please don’t judge the oldest. She already is going through hell, blaming herself. The comment somebody made about her already judging babies as disposable was horrible. She does read these blogs and so do all her friends so there is no way to protect her from any more harm.
    All I’m asking is to keep these children in mind when you make your comments. They’ve been through enough and their ordeal is nowhere near over. So please don’t add to their pain.

    I am unsure why you would think this isn’t the truth, everything that I have read on this blog was taken straight out of the affidavit so the media isn’t make up some kind of story to make this family look bad.

    As for not judging the oldest, I think the majority of the people haven’t said anything remotely negative but more along the facts of why she didn’t say anything sooner and are just curious as to what happened.

    Most people, myself included, started babysitting at a very early age. I was babysitting infants when I was 14 and had took a certifiable babysitting course at the age of 12. I think unless under certain circumstances, most 14 year olds will know when something is up or wrong. The baby was starved to death. Can you imagine being hungry for over 24 hours and just laying in your own urine that caused a severe burning rash on your legs? That is a horrible way to die! That child suffered immensely.

    As for the disposable comment, well, if you can see she was probably young when Austin was born, and that poor child was locked up in a shoe box for 4 months and then her other younger sister was left to die, and she didn’t say or notice anything wrong.. ? She had a horrible role model and one can only hope that she doesn’t repeat the actions that she saw or think that these behaviors are ‘ok’ or ‘normal’.

    If you know for a fact that these people come on here and don’t want to see them “harmed” then do something about it. Telling us that we are not allowed to discuss what the rest of the world already is, is wrong in itself. We all are entitled to our opinions and I intend on expressing mine. If they have a problem with what I say, there is a little red ‘x’ on the top right of the screen, I suggest they use it wisely.

  • Kathy

    If you know for a fact that these people come on here and don’t want to see them “harmed” then do something about it. Telling us that we are not allowed to discuss what the rest of the world already is, is wrong in itself. We all are entitled to our opinions and I intend on expressing mine. If they have a problem with what I say, there is a little red ‘x’ on the top right of the screen, I suggest they use it wisely.

    Great wording.

    And seriously, due the subject matter, this site is intended for adults only. At 14, I am hoping that the girl has at least little bit of supervision when she in online. Someone needs to step up to the plate and give this girl some guidance.

  • Kathy

    If you know for a fact that these people come on here and don’t want to see them “harmed” then do something about it. Telling us that we are not allowed to discuss what the rest of the world already is, is wrong in itself. We all are entitled to our opinions and I intend on expressing mine. If they have a problem with what I say, there is a little red ‘x’ on the top right of the screen, I suggest they use it wisely.

    Great wording.

    And seriously, due the subject matter, this site is intended for adults only. At 14, I am hoping that the girl has at least little bit of supervision when she in online. Someone needs to step up to the plate and give this girl some guidance.

  • Kathy

    If you know for a fact that these people come on here and don’t want to see them “harmed” then do something about it. Telling us that we are not allowed to discuss what the rest of the world already is, is wrong in itself. We all are entitled to our opinions and I intend on expressing mine. If they have a problem with what I say, there is a little red ‘x’ on the top right of the screen, I suggest they use it wisely.

    Great wording.

    And seriously, due the subject matter, this site is intended for adults only. At 14, I am hoping that the girl has at least little bit of supervision when she in online. Someone needs to step up to the plate and give this girl some guidance.

  • yo_yoshee

    I really wish you all would stop talking about the 14 year old. None of you know what she went through. She’s one of my friends and all you are focusing on what she could’ve done, but do any of you know what she did? She was the one who took care of those kids, and to those of you saying that you were were able to take care of kids at her age, she was to she just did it 24/7. She wasn’t aloud to go anywhere, none of them were aloud to leave the upstairs. Everytime I went over to see if she could hang out her mom was always downstairs with the music blaring and drinking alcohol. Yes the house was filthy but she was trying to keep up with 3 kids and I think that she was seriously depressed, she told me her mom wouldn’t even talk to her and everytime she would try to her mom would scream at her. To all the people supporting her thank you, and to the people trying to make the dad sound like he was all perfect and didnt do anything wrong? He’s not as nice as you think.

  • yo_yoshee

    I really wish you all would stop talking about the 14 year old. None of you know what she went through. She’s one of my friends and all you are focusing on what she could’ve done, but do any of you know what she did? She was the one who took care of those kids, and to those of you saying that you were were able to take care of kids at her age, she was to she just did it 24/7. She wasn’t aloud to go anywhere, none of them were aloud to leave the upstairs. Everytime I went over to see if she could hang out her mom was always downstairs with the music blaring and drinking alcohol. Yes the house was filthy but she was trying to keep up with 3 kids and I think that she was seriously depressed, she told me her mom wouldn’t even talk to her and everytime she would try to her mom would scream at her. To all the people supporting her thank you, and to the people trying to make the dad sound like he was all perfect and didnt do anything wrong? He’s not as nice as you think.

  • carol13

    I really wish you all would stop talking about the 14 year old. None of you know what she went through. She’s one of my friends and all you are focusing on what she could’ve done, but do any of you know what she did? She was the one who took care of those kids, and to those of you saying that you were were able to take care of kids at her age, she was to she just did it 24/7. She wasn’t aloud to go anywhere, none of them were aloud to leave the upstairs. Everytime I went over to see if she could hang out her mom was always downstairs with the music blaring and drinking alcohol. Yes the house was filthy but she was trying to keep up with 3 kids and I think that she was seriously depressed, she told me her mom wouldn’t even talk to her and everytime she would try to her mom would scream at her. To all the people supporting her thank you, and to the people trying to make the dad sound like he was all perfect and didnt do anything wrong? He’s not as nice as you think.

    you’re new here, so I’ll explain this, until YOU brought it up again, this was a dead page…if you don’t want it discussed, don’t post on a page no one has bothered with in over a month. This site is updated daily, with a ton of stories. My guess is that you DO want it discussed, that’s why you’re here.

  • carol13

    I really wish you all would stop talking about the 14 year old. None of you know what she went through. She’s one of my friends and all you are focusing on what she could’ve done, but do any of you know what she did? She was the one who took care of those kids, and to those of you saying that you were were able to take care of kids at her age, she was to she just did it 24/7. She wasn’t aloud to go anywhere, none of them were aloud to leave the upstairs. Everytime I went over to see if she could hang out her mom was always downstairs with the music blaring and drinking alcohol. Yes the house was filthy but she was trying to keep up with 3 kids and I think that she was seriously depressed, she told me her mom wouldn’t even talk to her and everytime she would try to her mom would scream at her. To all the people supporting her thank you, and to the people trying to make the dad sound like he was all perfect and didnt do anything wrong? He’s not as nice as you think.

    you’re new here, so I’ll explain this, until YOU brought it up again, this was a dead page…if you don’t want it discussed, don’t post on a page no one has bothered with in over a month. This site is updated daily, with a ton of stories. My guess is that you DO want it discussed, that’s why you’re here.

  • http://dreamindemon.com/ impqueen

    I really wish you all would stop talking about the 14 year old. None of you know what she went through. She’s one of my friends and all you are focusing on what she could’ve done, but do any of you know what she did? (snip) To all the people supporting her thank you, and to the people trying to make the dad sound like he was all perfect and didnt do anything wrong? He’s not as nice as you think.

    I don’t think anyone’s blaming the fourteen year old here. Yeah, she could have told a teacher at school. Hell, if you knew what was happening, YOU could have told a teacher at school. Kids CAN tell, and they can get help. But Alexis’ death is Kristin Phillips’ fault and nobody else’s as far as I can tell.

    I was under the impression that the dad was in Iraq when Alexis was killed. So while he may or may not be a great guy, he wasn’t even there, so he didn’t kill the baby. What, was he abusive from Iraq or something and that’s why nobody told anyone what was going on in that house? C’mon.

  • http://dreamindemon.com impqueen

    I really wish you all would stop talking about the 14 year old. None of you know what she went through. She’s one of my friends and all you are focusing on what she could’ve done, but do any of you know what she did? (snip) To all the people supporting her thank you, and to the people trying to make the dad sound like he was all perfect and didnt do anything wrong? He’s not as nice as you think.

    I don’t think anyone’s blaming the fourteen year old here. Yeah, she could have told a teacher at school. Hell, if you knew what was happening, YOU could have told a teacher at school. Kids CAN tell, and they can get help. But Alexis’ death is Kristin Phillips’ fault and nobody else’s as far as I can tell.

    I was under the impression that the dad was in Iraq when Alexis was killed. So while he may or may not be a great guy, he wasn’t even there, so he didn’t kill the baby. What, was he abusive from Iraq or something and that’s why nobody told anyone what was going on in that house? C’mon.

  • Concerned Citizen

    I’m still rather new here, so I just came across this story. When I clicked on the link for Kristin’s MySpace, she was online! Please tell me this woman is not walking around free!?

  • Concerned Citizen

    I’m still rather new here, so I just came across this story. When I clicked on the link for Kristin’s MySpace, she was online! Please tell me this woman is not walking around free!?

  • Harley_Tech

    I’m still rather new here, so I just came across this story. When I clicked on the link for Kristin’s MySpace, she was online! Please tell me this woman is not walking around free!?

    I would imagine she has given her password to her husband from jail and he was logged on. Just a guess since she faces federal charges that could carry the death penalty. His page was also logged onto today.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I’m still rather new here, so I just came across this story. When I clicked on the link for Kristin’s MySpace, she was online! Please tell me this woman is not walking around free!?

    I would imagine she has given her password to her husband from jail and he was logged on. Just a guess since she faces federal charges that could carry the death penalty. His page was also logged onto today.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I’m still rather new here, so I just came across this story. When I clicked on the link for Kristin’s MySpace, she was online! Please tell me this woman is not walking around free!?

    I would imagine she has given her password to her husband from jail and he was logged on. Just a guess since she faces federal charges that could carry the death penalty. His page was also logged onto today.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    I’m still rather new here, so I just came across this story. When I clicked on the link for Kristin’s MySpace, she was online! Please tell me this woman is not walking around free!?

    I would imagine she has given her password to her husband from jail and he was logged on. Just a guess since she faces federal charges that could carry the death penalty. His page was also logged onto today.

    R

  • Concerned Citizen

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

  • Concerned Citizen

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

  • Concerned Citizen

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

  • Concerned Citizen

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

  • Harley_Tech

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

    I’m not at all sure about this, maybe someone here can answer it for sure, but I don’t believe bail is an option for a federal murder charge.
    I guess if I were not so damn lazy I could google the information.
    Truns out bail is an option, but I have no idea if she has made bail or even been set.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

    I’m not at all sure about this, maybe someone here can answer it for sure, but I don’t believe bail is an option for a federal murder charge.
    I guess if I were not so damn lazy I could google the information.
    Truns out bail is an option, but I have no idea if she has made bail or even been set.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

    I’m not at all sure about this, maybe someone here can answer it for sure, but I don’t believe bail is an option for a federal murder charge.
    I guess if I were not so damn lazy I could google the information.
    Truns out bail is an option, but I have no idea if she has made bail or even been set.

    R

  • Harley_Tech

    Thanks Harley – that makes me feel better. I was truly hoping they didn’t let her go scott-free for insanity or something. At least put her in the nuthouse.

    I’m not at all sure about this, maybe someone here can answer it for sure, but I don’t believe bail is an option for a federal murder charge.
    I guess if I were not so damn lazy I could google the information.
    Truns out bail is an option, but I have no idea if she has made bail or even been set.

    R

  • Sexc_grl07

    any one that wants to tell kristin how you feel about all of this her is the address to the jail that she been at since 08.
    kristen phillips
    pcj pod a
    500 west 2nd st
    rolla, mo. 65401