Hey imp...I think I might have a lead pipe that I'd let you borrow. Hell, I can probably even find two.

This piece of shit will make a good prison bitch.

WOW. Shithead, soon to be shitmouth.
Hope he likes tossed salad. Whats up with the 70"s porn star mustache.
Shit flavor saver???
:)

Another sordid tale of pervert adult and damaged children. Kids echo their distress and confusion in some many behavioural indicators (better than adults, in fact) - us grownups have to get better at interpreting them. He must have got one kid to assault the other while he jerked off, the vile little gnome. School's out Dino, and the lesson's about to begin...

Another sordid tale of pervert adult and damaged children. Kids echo their distress and confusion in some many behavioural indicators (better than adults, in fact) - us grownups have to get better at interpreting them. He must have got one kid to assault the other while he jerked off, the vile little gnome. School’s out Dino, and the lesson’s about to begin…

my second son is 10 years old - sick fucks like this need to be removed from existence, not locked up.

HOW ON GOD'S EARTH DID THESE KIDS GO BACK TO CLASS AFTER BEING "RAPED" AND A COMPETANT TEACHER COULDN'T TELL SOMETHING WAS WRONG???????? PARTICULARLY IF A GROWN MAN MADE PENETRATION!

WTF???

LACK OF COMPETANT TEACHER?

I bet we got some money hungry lawyers just salivating at this story. The school is so obviously negligent here.

If I were the parents of either one of these boys, I would be PRAYING that this ass was let out on bail. I would be waiting outside the jail for him to walk out and then calmly put an end to his miserable life. I would then proceed to stomp his corpse into pudding.

All to save my baby the horror of having to testify against him and fear that he would ever get out of prison. It would be worth the prison time.

Of course, I would have been temporarily insane, so it wouldn't be a long prison sentence. :D

While I feel terrible for both of those boys...my heart goes out to the one that is now up on charges for forcible rape. That little guy has a lot of mental shit he's gonna have to work through.

Recently my son's school (he's 7) did a survey asking what issues parents were most concerned about and wanted to address. I guess they got of repsonses like give my kid more time in the computer lab and complaints about the cafeteria food. I could care less about shit like that. I told them my top concern was about the people that have access to my child when he is at school. He can use the computer at home and if the cafeteria food stinks that just makes him like mine better. I told them my top concern was making sure they screen staff very carefully before hiring them at the school and even more important to be hyper vigilant in watching over them after they have access to the kids. Is that too much to ask? Just keep'um safe while they are at school. Please!

Of course, I would have been temporarily insane, so it wouldn’t be a long prison sentence.

Actually, Kath, I'm not so sure that you couldn't use the 'self-defense/defense of others' (not guilty due to..), and get away with it. You could probably convince a a jury that you were doing what you thought necessary to protect your child's life. In a case like that, I think the jury would probably be more likely to accept that scenario. Especially if the trial was held in the town it happened in, and the members of the jury had kids in school there, or even knew kids who went to school there. That way no conviction = no jail time = still able to vote and own firearms. A win-win situation. That's the defense I'd try if I killed someone for abusing my child (and I would, if anyone ever did).

Recently my son’s school (he’s 7) did a survey asking what issues parents were most concerned about and wanted to address ... I told them my top concern was making sure they screen staff very carefully before hiring them at the school and even more important to be hyper vigilant in watching over them after they have access to the kids. Is that too much to ask? Just keep’um safe while they are at school. Please!

Suki, why don't you send them the original link to this article so that they see what you're concerned about? Maybe the shock of this will drive home to them that every person in a school needs to be checked carefully. This man chose to janitor in a school so he could get access to kids, I'm sure.

How how how does this happen???? My 7 year old is at school right now, and the thought that this could happen to him makes me sick. Jesus christ, how could these kids go along with this???? I dont blame them at all, but I want to understand how to teach my child that if anyone attempts to do something like this to you, RUN AWAY!!! Why dont we have cameras in the restrooms (not in stalls, mind you)???? In schools, these things always happen in the bathrooms. If we could have security or cameras or something like that there, we could prevent this from happening!

If we could have security or cameras or something like that there, we could prevent this from happening!

I don't know about preventing it, but we'd sure as hell have enough footage to convict the perv, after the fact.

HOW ON GOD’S EARTH DID THESE KIDS GO BACK TO CLASS AFTER BEING “RAPED” AND A COMPETANT TEACHER COULDN’T TELL SOMETHING WAS WRONG???????? PARTICULARLY IF A GROWN MAN MADE PENETRATION!

That is a good point. How could they show absolutely no signs that something happened? Seems strange to me.
These two boys are now fucked up for life, I hope they're able to receive some damn good counseling. What a fucking nightmare to have to live with everyday.

Do they even do background checks before hiring these pervs?

I'd like to address two comments that were made, the first comment:

HOW ON GOD’S EARTH DID THESE KIDS GO BACK TO CLASS AFTER BEING “RAPED” AND A COMPETANT TEACHER COULDN’T TELL SOMETHING WAS WRONG???????? PARTICULARLY IF A GROWN MAN MADE PENETRATION! WTF??? LACK OF COMPETANT TEACHER?

And, a reponse to the above comment:

That is a good point. How could they show absolutely no signs that something happened? Seems strange to me.These two boys are now fucked up for life, I hope they’re able to receive some damn good counseling. What a fucking nightmare to have to live with everyday.

It is a fact that most children who are sexually assaulted, are assaulted by someone they know. It is often times the case that the abuse goes on for years, the child says nothing, and no one is the wiser. Also, in most of these cases good competent teachers, loving competent parents, and competent relatives cannot just tell that their child has been or is being sexually assaulted.

The comment "How on God's earth..." is a defense attorneys DREAM - i.e. “If that boy was in fact being anally raped by a MAN, he would have cried out, someone would have been aware. But, that boy didn’t do any of those things. In fact, he went back to class and went about his daily routine. Perhaps the truth is that the boy is lying and this did not happen at all.” This is a commonly used defense tactic for creating reasonable doubt in jurys, and often times why a guilty-as-hell-child- raping-scum-bag goes free.

SHAME and FEAR are very powerful motivators for children. Which is why a lot of children who are raped, often times repeatedly, say absolutely nothing despite their physical and emotional trauma. Children are also extremely RESILIENT, and to say that these two boys are now fucked up for life, is premature. It is that very trait that gets these kids through the most heinous acts of depravity inflicted on them.

What really sticks in my craw is what these two boys will now have to go through before this is all over with in “The System” – it is absolutely and utterly sickening. Anyone who has ever seen a defense attorney who specializes in sexual assault depose or cross-examine a child victim knows what I am talking about. Hopefully, their resilience is strong, and they have the support of loved ones to quiet their fears and let go of the shame that is not rightfully theirs.

Thank you V. Right on target.

yep- Well said.

I can imagine that Dino the dumbass probably cleaned them up nicely and held them while they hurt, then sent them back to class.
I know that when I was a kid, and at my daughter's school, it was a nice change or even a privelige to be asked to go help a coach or another faculty member with some extra duties. I understand the how, and the shame...It still just burns me up though, that he took them into his twisted world and made them think they were the shameful ones.

Good advice Wry, i will send them the link.

HOW ON GOD’S EARTH DID THESE KIDS GO BACK TO CLASS AFTER BEING “RAPED” AND A COMPETANT TEACHER COULDN’T TELL SOMETHING WAS WRONG???????? PARTICULARLY IF A GROWN MAN MADE PENETRATION!

JenJen...that comment is out of line....save your venom for the piece of shit that raped these kids. A teacher's competency has nothing to do with the crime or why it wasn't discovered earlier, and in my OPINION, has nothing to do with this case. The kids could've been scared stiff. In some states, rape also continues oral sex - giving/receiving without consent... so there may not have been trauma to the child's rectum.
And yes, I am a teacher. I teach at a needy, at-risk school in a low income communuity. I have taught kids who have been molested. And let me tell ya, walk into a room of 35 kids - that's how many are in MY class on average - you'd be hard pressed to pick out the kids who were abused or the ones who slept in a car the night before, or who haven't ate in 2 days. These kids are taught to lie, cover it up, deny...or live in fear.
Why not bash the parent next huh? They know their kid so well... why didn't they figure it out?

Point the finger of blame at the janitor, WHERE IT BELONGS.

My question is 3 counts - does that mean it happened 3 different times ?

I was 12 1/2 - When a neighbor friend's, dad tried to touch in a way that was considered molestation. I ran upstairs and stayed close to the girls mother until I was returned home. I never went back to that house ever. I told the friend's older sister she did not believe me and I told my mother she discussed it with the neighbor that was it the extent of it. I still think of the scumbag but it didn't ruin my life. I do wish I could of stayed lifelong friends with that family. They were a big part of my childhood. He was a truck driver only was home a couple days a week. They later moved 2 states away to Tenn. I worried more about the 2 girls my age that lived with him, then myself.

My son was 10 when he got suspended for showing other boys pictures he printed off the computer of porn. that is the age that boys get curious about sex... I didn't know and was quite shocked (No i wasn't aware that he printed that picture off of my daughters computer) when the principal called and told me my son was suspended - I thought she was making a bigger deal out of it then she should be... that is what kids do ... they discover new things... but NO i wouldn't of liked it if another boy was showing this type picture to my boy. I just think that it is somewhat normal.

He assaulted the boys in the school restroom during school hours.

no reason to get so defensive LL... it does make some kind of sense to me the teachers spend a large amount of time a week with these kids they would pick up on a tear on the cheek, A kid that couldnt sit, a pissed off attitude - I would think the teachers have seminars what to watch for and the signs that something is not right. I am not blaming the teacher.

where I went we had no doors on the stall ... just recently after that boy in tx was found on that hook.. all the stall doors and hooks were removed, they no longer have stall doors.

Even with all the warnings they still hire nimkapoops ...
They are everywhere ... this story hit our papers yesterday...
NEW ARREST : http://www.kypost.com/content/wcposhared/story....

School’s out Dino, and the lesson’s about to begin…

LOL Lovely name there...

is this what they mean from school to prison
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/16484811.html

Police said Schwertz followed all four boys into bathrooms before assaulting them. Schwertz had confessed to the crimes involving the 10-year-olds, and that police will go back to Schwertz with the new allegations.

Bond would be set when Schwertz moves to Parish Prison

one article says :

Foltz said Schwertz’s criminal history involved traffic citations and worthless check charges from several year ago

get that "worthless" wtf? coverup coverup my ass... pos of that hired him... please resign !!!

the other says :

His criminal record includes only offenses such as violating a protection order, harassment and passing bad checks, Drennan said. The protection order apparently stemmed from a dispute with a city official who had rejected his job application.

and this one :

Court records reveal that when Schwertz was hired by the school system, he was serving a five-year probation for a bank fraud charge after passing bad checks, and that two protective orders had been placed against him by his fiancee and his parents. -

Schwertz also pleaded guilty to a DWI charge in 1999

HIS OWN PARENTS ! creep!!!

In May 2006, Schwertz's parents filed a temporary restraining order and protection from abuse order against Schwertz and his fiancee, saying the couple would ask for money and then make threats and leave profane messages. The complaint stated that Schwertz's parents "feared bodily harm."

Schwertz is accused of raping each boy on three occasions this fall while school was in session,

In Louisiana, aggravated rape is a capital crime, punishable by a death sentence or life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. However, the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule this year on a case that challenges the constitutionality of those penalties.

HA! 2 more boys come forward http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/03/two_... The 8- and 11-year-old boys told police Monday and Tuesday morning that they had been molested by Dino Jay Schwertz
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GET this a 5 year period... 18 times (Robert A. Friday)
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/03/slid...

Schwertz is the second person to be booked with aggravated rape in Slidell this year. In January, Robert A. Friday, 45, of Pearl River was arrested and accused of repeatedly raping a child between the ages of 8 and 11 during 18 months starting in 2002.

My question is 3 counts - does that mean it happened 3 different times ?

in this case, that is what Dino admitted, so yes. Generally, but not always, it's one count per admitted or verifiable instance. Some states will go for one count per reported instance (but those usually go to plea deal).

no reason to get so defensive LL… it does make some kind of sense to me the teachers spend a large amount of time a week with these kids they would pick up on a tear on the cheek, A kid that couldnt sit, a pissed off attitude - I would think the teachers have seminars what to watch for and the signs that something is not right. I am not blaming the teacher.

I suppose I was a little defensive, but I do think it is ludricous to blame the teacher for not uncovering this earlier. That's like blaming the parent, too, or blaming the kid for using the washroom. The blame belongs with our buddy, Dino.
We do have seminars, we do have (most boards) mandatory requirements to report known abuse or we face large fines ($15,000) here in Canada.
But what kind of school is this? I already told you the kids of school I teach in - and pissed off attitude is what most of these kids are, all the time already, due to the lives they've had thus far... so to me, that would not immediAtely set off warning bells (unless the kid was very passive & quiet ordinarily).
All I am saying is you are saying that the teacher should've known...but you are also speculating on the kid's emotions. What if the kid returned - no crying, no evident pain, no attitude that was out of the ordinary?? Then all of a sudden the teacher must become a mind-reader?
I am a very astute, aware teacher and I am in tune with my students - they like me, they respect me, they confide in me. But I have yet to have a kid confide in me that they have been molested... that just seems to be THE biggest secret, THE hardest secret to tell, no matter how much you trust the person you are talking to.
And believe you me, I bet the kids teacher feels ABSOLUTELY AWFUL they didn't see or recognize the signs earlier, as do the parents I'm certain, and all the other important people in these kids lives.

PS. I'd love to have 5 minutes alone with Dino myself... I may be a woman, but I bet I can inflict enough damage in those 5 minutes that he'd remember me.

LL44 and V. My whole thing with agreeing with JenJen was this: It would seem the first time, and subsequent times that there would have been some kind of sign, which yes, a teacher would be trained to notice. I don't blame the teacher, I am just curious as to how no one caught on.
I was wondering if the child came back to class with his clothes in a disarray, or was he pale, or did he have a "look", was he tearful, withdrawn, anxious or depressed?
If a teacher has 30 kids in her class, of course they are not going to "see" everything, and "notice" all changes. I was thinking though, someone should have noticed something. Again not blaming, just thinking out loud. I realize also that every child reacts differently.

No Worries! That is what forum is for- To express our beliefs and opinions.

OF COURSE I don't blame the teacher. Dino had done this before and had apparently had enough time to study these poor kids to know what made them tick- And how to keep them quiet.
I'm just saying that any teacher that spends 8 hours a day with her/his students just can usually pick up on something wrong- that's all. Whether the child chooses to talk is an ENTIRELY different story.

LL- I KNOW. It happened to me for years when I was a kid by a close family member. He threatened all kinds of things, and intimidated me for years. I don't think there were any clues that would have clued in any of my close neighbors, teachers or church family that anything was going on, so I am sure that when this happened to these boys, the change in their behavior/ demeanor wasn't something they could hide. If they weren't living with the abuser, like I was, home was probably the only "safe place" they could act out without someone questioning them.

I was wondering if the child came back to class with his clothes in a disarray, or was he pale, or did he have a “look”, was he tearful, withdrawn, anxious or depressed?
If a teacher has 30 kids in her class, of course they are not going to “see” everything, and “notice” all changes. I was thinking though, someone should have noticed something. Again not blaming, just thinking out loud. I realize also that every child reacts differently.

Besides the possibility that the kids just didn't want to mention it or let others know what was going on, because of the shame associated with a situation like this, JenJen has another excellent point. Just because a child has been molested or raped does not automatically mean there WILL be behavioral/emotional changes. A lot of these kids are so shocked by the act itself, that they absolutely refuse to let themselves believe that it happened. I was one of those.

I was molested by a family member until I was twelve. I was so deep in denial, that I didn't even remember the abuse until FIVE YEARS AFTER IT ENDED. And I truly believe that the only reason I remembered it at that point was because my mother and my little sister had moved in with the old bastard, and my subconscious desire to protect her was greater than my desire to forget. Love is one of the most powerful motivators on earth. I am also equally as certain that the things I remembered, the things that prompted me to insist on her removal from that house, were probably just the very tip of the iceberg where my abuse was concerned. I am still missing large chunks of my childhood - the memories simply don't exist for me. And, God willing, I will never remember. The things I do remember came close to ruining my life, and I really don't think I would be able to deal with the absolute certainty that even worse things had happened. I am happy in my ignorance in this situation.
Also, during the entire time the abuse was happening, no one noticed. I was a straight A student, happy, friendly, and dedicated to my family. The fact that they missed it is not a reflection on their perceptive abilities, but rather evidence of my deep denial. I'm not saying that this is what happened in this case - just throwing another possibility into the mix...

I was molested also as a child. It was a man who lived with my neighbors. We went to court, he had 13 priors and was charged with abusing 3 including me, two counts rape for the girls who lived with him. He did not rape me. The shame is incredible, therapy only works if you talk and i never did. I never said alot that happened. It makes you feel so dirty. I think the shame keeps you quiet a lot more than any threat of harm to family. You just don't want it to be you that it is happening to. I hope that they get help. They can overcome it with help. The boy who raped the other, really needs some serious help if this did not happen in front of this pervert. That means he is acting out on his own. :(
I am sure there will be plenty more kids who he has molested. the average amount of victims they have is unbelievable, they should not be released ever once they commit their first offense. The man who molested me, even had to be extradited for more crimes in other states.
As for being cross examined, all i remember was that due to my age, i was able to go to a separate room with the judge and lawyers, my parents too. I had to sit and tell what happened to the judge, and then face the sicko, and point to him. i was really young so I forget some stuff.

CLD--I wish I had been given the chance. By the time I opened up I was 14, then byt the time it had a court date I was 16. The assigned a "victim-witness advocate" and she helped pursuade me- and my mom to let him plead down to a lesser offense- Just so I wouldn't have to go through the "trauma" of a trial.
I would have loved the THERAPUETIC experience of going to trial and actually being able to confront the bastard with the truth. Even though in FL it meant a possible 25/ life sentence.

Now, after only a year in jail, he absconded from parole- was recaught, then served only another 9 months he is out and almost off the 10 year probation. I think he just has to attend some kind of class or something. He is a not even a CONVICTED felon since they let him PLEAD OUT!!! He is a registered sex offender, and is registered, but that doesn't mean much.
I agree with some of the other posters- It needs to be tatooed on these a-holes foreheads and then they need to have the color refreshed on the thing every several years--(when there is not any scar tissue--hehe...) so that they and everyone that happens upon them will never forget what a POS they really are.

JenJen,
I never got the chance to confront the one who molested me in a court of law, either, but it was not because of a plea. Back when I was 17 (and dinosaurs roamed the earth), if you did not report the abuse within, I think it was two or three years of the occurrence, the person could not be charged. Since the abuse had stopped five years before I even remembered it, the statute of limitations had already expired, and I was SOL. I think it was just a couple or three years after that, that the law was changed to read that you had three years from your 18th birthday, or from the time you remembered the abuse, to report it and be offered the opportunity to prosecute. The old bastard lucked out on that one.
I did get help, not for years afterward,but I did finally go to a therapist. I am actually still seeing her, as needed, whenever the depression surfaces.

JenJen and Angel,
At least you came forward with the abuse. I know of plenty of cases where people are advised to settle or not press charges for the sake of the children being put on the stand. For me it was not that bad, the abuse was way worse in a sense that it totally messed up my ability to not feel this "dirty" feeling towards all adult men,it changed how I dressed as I got older, how I felt about sex in general, pretty much a dirty feeling.
These people need to be stopped, they will just keep offending, so even though it is embarrassing,kids need to come forward not just for themselves but for the other possible victims.
I just wanted to clarify that i never told, that is not why we went to court, the man was caught taking his penis out in his backyard while me and the one girl were playing up the back part of the yard. Broad ass daylight and everything. He took off, but was caught by a canal several days later. I became very close with the officer that caught him. My Mother is the one who came out and caught him, she was calling for me in the upper part of the yard turned next door and saw him standing at his door, that is when his whole world came crashing down. My Mom who was divorced from my Dad at the time, did not tell him what happened for a long time, because she was afraid of what he would do to the guy. My Dad got really pissed off at that later on, can't say I blame him. He did know by court though. He went after the guy in court like we thought he would.
Sorry so long. I actually never even told my husband this whole story before. It is just something that never comes up.
One last, last thing, there were signs, he was very close with the 13 year old daughter, too close, my Mom asked me about it one time when I was playing a game with her, I said nothing that I knew off. She was always hugging him, and stuff. Her POS Dad did not come to court, he went to the bar instead. His two daughters were raped and he did not come to court. I blamed that family for years for what happened, sadly I had a lot of ill will towards the kids too.

CLD,
You really do need to talk to somebody. The more you talk about it, the less power it has over you. At least, that's how it worked for me. If you don't want to do one on one counseling, there are rape crisis centers, and sex abuse groups that meet for 'group discussions' in most cities now. I think it would really help you to talk to others who have suffered through the same kind of abuse. I know it may sound weird, but it made me feel LESS 'dirty' once I really understood that I wasn't alone in my feelings. Others who have been through it often can be a greater source of encouragement and healing, than someone who was 'trained' to help people. At least think about it......
And whatever you decide to do....I'll be praying for you.

Thanks Angel,
Ya know I would go to talk to someone about it but I just had a very traumatic year with my son having the heart defect and him having open heart surgery. I am just finally starting to feel again now that he is Ok. I did go through a little depression I think but now I feel better, I can appreciate all that i have. I am really enjoying him and my other two kids. We are getting our life back, I don't want to be sad anymore. I want to spend my time helping other kids/families with heart defects, my sister had one also, she died in 81. I think I found my purpose, to help others with CHDS.
My son is just doing so well. I can breathe, ya know? I don't want to drag in all of these feelings of my past, the shame has sadly become how I am. I can say that almost matter of factly. I will eventually seek maybe a group setting. Thank you for your kind words. I hope you understand where I came coming from.

And yes, I am a teacher. I teach at a needy, at-risk school in a low income communuity. I have taught kids who have been molested. And let me tell ya, walk into a room of 35 kids - that’s how many are in MY class on average - you’d be hard pressed to pick out the kids who were abused or the ones who slept in a car the night before, or who haven’t ate in 2 days. These kids are taught to lie, cover it up, deny…or live in fear.

I have had some experience as an assistant reading teacher and I can testify that in a classroom with 35 kids there is alway something that needs immediate attention. A child that is quiet one day or has a tear on her/his cheek may -- well, there simply may not be time to sit down and coax out what the problem is -- there are 34 other active kids to monitor -- and then the quiet child perks up or the period ends and everyone leaves the room, etc. I think 35 is WAY too many kids in a class -- for just this reason.

I understand, and if you ever just wanna unload on someone, PM me, and let me know. Us fucked-up folk gotta stick together.LOL. I've been told I'm a good listener.....

And having a purpose is a good thing. Helping others is the best way I know of to help yourself. Good luck with the CHDS thing; I think others are going to be lucky to have someone as compassionate as you on their side. Vaya con dios...

TY again. Will do.:)

hahahahahaa...you so funny, Angel!...!

Seriously though, CLD- She's right- Regardless of how well you feel right now about the other stuff in your life, that experience will drag you down and be a heavy burden on your heart, and your spirit, unless you open up and spill. I have talked to a couple of different therapists over the years (moved from FL to GA) Particularly because of other situations that occurred because of my own anxiety from the events in the past. You don't think it plays much of a role in who you are today, but during your developmental years, when you were becoming who you are today, it happened. And it stuck with you. And It shapes the way you think, the way you treat your children, the way you watch your children, where you let them go, and with who...so on and so on.
Not that that is a bad thing in itself, but there are many more parts of your psyche that were affected.

Yeah, ask any of my kids - I'm a paranoid schizophrenic. Well, maybe not schizo (yes, you are), but paranoid, at least. I can't stand for them to be out of my sight, and they don't even get to go to the park right across the street from the house without an adult. My way of making things right in my world is overcompensating for the love and security I didn't have as a child. I am overprotective to a fault. My kids hate it! So it has a dual purpose - making me feel better, while at the same time annoying the shit out of my babies. Kill two birds with one stone.....*cackle*

Geesh, there isn't one safe place for kids anymore!!