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Ivette Davila Is A Jealous Bitch

March 4, 2008 by impqueen  

Filed under: Abduction, Kidnapping, Murder, Shooting 

 Ivette Davila, Dreamin' DemonSgt, Tim Miller, Dreamin' DemonSgt. Randi Miller, Dreamin' Demon

Spc. Ivette Davila,  Sgt. Timothy Miller, Sgt. Randi Miller

Fort Lewis, WA  -  Spc. Ivette Gonzalez Davila, 22, has issues with rejection.  And on SaturdaySaturday reviewsSaturday reviews night, she proved it.   Davila broke into the home of Sgt. Timothy Miller and his wife, Sgt. Randi Miller, both Army medics and veterans of the war in Iraq.   Davila shot Randi Miller, 25, while she was in bed, killing her.   Then she went into the bathroom where Tim Miller was taking a shower, ambushed and shot him to death as well.  On her way out of the house, Davila took Randi Miller’s purse, and the Millers’ six month old baby girl, Kassidy.  

Davila told a friend that she had killed the Millers because she believed Randi Miller was romantically involved with a man who had been Davila’s boyfriend and that the boyfriend had chosen Randi Miller over her.   But there’s no evidence that Randi Miller was involved with anyone other than her husband, and the couple’s family and friends vehemently deny that anything extramarital could have been going on.    This lends credence to one theory: that the man who had ditched Davila was actually Tim Miller.

Randi Miller’s Myspace shows a pretty girl with a fun personality.  Both Tim Miller and Ivette Davila had comments on Randi’s page and there seems to be an affectionate relationship between Randi and Tim.  There are lots of pictures of the couple on their friend’s sites as well – always together, always touching, smiling at each other and their baby.

Ivette Davila’s Myspace is set to private, but she left an interesting comment on Tim Miller’s Myspace back in January.   On Tim’s Myspace, she wrote:  “How was your leave?  Did anyone break into your house?”   Davila is also stationed at Fort Lewis as a member of the color guard, but has not served in Iraq.

Davila cleaned up after the shootings, took baby Kassidy and drove to a Home Depot to buy some muriatic acid, according to the probable cause statement.  Then she waent back to the Miller’s home, dragged the body of Randi Miller into the bathtub with her husband, and poured the acid on both bodies “to get rid of them,” court documents say.

On Sunday,  Davila got a male friend at the base to help her get some baby things into her apartment, telling him that she was babysitting.  But some hours later she told the soldier that actually, she had killed Kassidy’s parents the night before.  The solider contacted authorities, who found Kassidy in Davila’s home along with the murder weapon, a receipt for the muriatic acid and Randi Miller’s purse.

Kassidy Miller is in the care of Family Services while Tim Miller’s family makes arrangements to pick her up from their home state of Nevada.  Ivette Davila is  is being held in Pierce County Jail on investigation of homicide and kidnapping.  She is expected to be charged Wednesday.

Thanks, Athena and Unamused Cat!  

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  • Dakota Valkyrie
    An Army Specialist accused of killing two fellow soldiers and taking their baby will face a court martial.

    The Army announced Monday that they have referred charges of premeditated murder, burglary and kidnapping against Spc. Ivette Davila to a General Court-Martial empowered to give the death penalty if she is convicted.

    According to court documents filed in Pierce County before the Army took over the prosecution, Davila allegedly confessed to another soldier that she went to Randi Miller's home in Parkland to kill her because she thought the woman was having an affair with Davila's ex-boyfriend.

    Investigators, though, said it was not known if any affair was actually taking place.
    [...]

    The Army has not given a date of Davila's court martial would begin.


    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/86983707.html
  • Jerri_Blank
    So it takes over to years to get kicked out of the armed forces even if you murder innocent people and kidnap children??! Wow...just wow
  • A Bakersfield servicewoman accused of murdering a couple and kidnapping their baby more than 19 months ago will have her first evidentiary hearing beginning Monday in Fort Lewis, Wa.

    The hearing could lead to a recommendation that Army Specialist Ivette Davila be put to death for her crimes, the Army reported Wednesday. If she is convicted of murder, the least she could get is life in prison, the Army said.
    [...]

    Davila admitted killing the couple earlier that day, saying she was upset Randi Miller was having a romantic relationship with Davila's ex-boyfriend, according to court documents.
    [...]

    The hearing on Monday is known as an Article 32 pretrial investigation. It is similar to a preliminary hearing in California where evidence is presented by both prosecution and defense attorneys.

    The evidence will be reviewed by an investigating officer who will recommend if charges should proceed to a court martial -- the Army equivalent of a trial.

    The officer will also recommend whether it is appropriate to seek the death penalty or life in prison. It could be several weeks before he announces his decision, Fort Lewis spokeswoman Catherine Caruso said.

    The hearing is expected to take three days, Caruso said.

    If convicted, in addition to the prison or death sentence, she would be dishonorably discharged, her rank would reduced to private and she would lose all pay and allowances.

    Source
  • MISS.S
    so sad that months later, their family post their messages to the dead parents on a regular basis..
    hopefully the child will grow up well adjusted.
    just sad, sad. sad.
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    Tomorrow, September 18th, 2008 would have been Timmy's 28th birthday.
    Randi's 26th birthday was March 25th, 2008 just shortly after the murder. And we all just celebrated Kassidy's 1st birthday at the end of this last August.
    It's hard to believe we won't all be celebrating any of their birthday's together. I hate that fact. I hate it so much.

    Happy Birthday Timmy. We love you, we miss you so much. Kassidy loves you and Randi so much! We promise to raise her the way you two would have; and we will always tell her how special and wonderful you and Randi were! xoxoxo
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    Thanks BGPLAYER. Your post was very appreciated and heartfelt. It's like you could see inside the inner workings of our family and our hearts. It is hard and it really doesn't get easier. It all still seems so surreal. Like a bad dream we will wake up from. But we know it’s not. We’ve seen their empty home, we’ve watched their military burials take place, we love their daughter who was orphaned at six months, we feel their absence at family gatherings/celebrations, and we go to the cemetery to visit and grieve where they’ve been laid to rest. Time does go by and the initial shock fades, but the constant reminder and heartache endures; especially when (like you said) milestones are reached, and Tim and Randi aren’t there to celebrate with us. We are grateful for the constant love and support we receive from our friends, family and even strangers, and it helps knowing that we are cared for and thought of throughout this whole dreadful nightmare. We are comforted by little Kassidy and the love and joy she brings to our lives. Having her is a true blessing from the Lord.

    Thank you again BGPLAYER, and welcome!
  • What a nice thing to post, bgplayer. Thank you, and welcome!
  • bgplayer
    I found this thread about three hours ago and have spent the past three hours reading posts, articles, myspace pages. I felt compelled to leave a message on Tim's mom's page. My heart goes out to this couple's family and friends. It's been a couple months now since they were so savagely taken from them and the love continues to pour out in messages to them. That alone speaks volumes to me as to what kind of people they were. There is a huge void in the lives of those that knew them personally. It isnt getting easier for them. Days go by. Holidays. Milestones in their baby daughter's life. Graduations. If there is any bit of compassion in any of us our time here is best spent praying for those left behind. Not contemplating what kind of lives they led. And if prayer isnt your thing..how about a kind word? or a peaceful thought? I'm new to this posting thing and normally I dont feel a need to say what has already been said by others. Thanks for reading my two cents. For the family and friends of Randi and Tim...I hope you find a bit more peace each passing day.
    bg
  • personalopinion
    Also, Angel would like to welcome the newest member. Welcome, PO. May our future meetings be less irate than this one. Otherwise, I might have a stroke!





    Well thank you, and deffinately hope for less irate.
  • nurseronda
    Ok, can I change the subject completely here?...Too late....Help, I keep trying to log in to the forums section and it won't log me in...It continuously puts me back on the log in page.
  • Angel
    Also, Angel would like to welcome the newest member. Welcome, PO. May our future meetings be less irate than this one. Otherwise, I might have a stroke!
  • personalopinion
    We speculate - about defendants, victims, people loosely involved. I absolutely respect and gladly comply with a victim’s family members wishes to cease a particular line of conversation. But, there’s a difference between a family member asking someone to drop something and the attack on a newbie.

    I just meant to try to illustrate that PO was clearly not intending to slander the victims.





    Thank you for that. Hurting ppl was not my intention at all.
  • Angel
    I took a breather, Imp! I was a good little Angel. If the subject is truly dropped now, I'm fine with that. Thanks for being the voice of reason again, Imp. I had reached the unreasonable, off the wall, bitch-mode point (as if you couldn't tell), which is why I took that breather.

    I will drop it. I didn’t realize how offensive it would be. So to everybody I apoligize for that.

    I was unaware of that. And again i apoligize.

    Apology accepted.
  • Athena
    So I don’t think it’s bad to ask this one to just drop.

    I couldn't agree more. I was specifically addressing the posts that came before that point, however, and tried to take a more general tone.

    We speculate - about defendants, victims, people loosely involved. I absolutely respect and gladly comply with a victim's family members wishes to cease a particular line of conversation. But, there's a difference between a family member asking someone to drop something and the attack on a newbie.

    I just meant to try to illustrate that PO was clearly not intending to slander the victims.
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    I will drop it. I didn’t realize how offensive it would be. So to everybody I apoligize for that.


    THANK YOU SO MUCH! God bless. Hope to see you around! =)
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    I appreciate your apology - let’s just pretend this one didn’t happen.


    I AGREE!!! =)
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    I am sorry that rumors go flying. I don’t know if you’ve already heard this one before, but I appreciate your calm and reason in the face of it. Tim and Randi were a beautiful couple and obviously very happy and in love. It’s clear they loved Kassidy dearly as well.


    This means alot....Thank you. I know people are going to speculate. I know it's a tragedy. It draws people in and makes them want to find the reason. It just seems silly to drag all this up again. It's been almost 2 months. It just seems silly to talk about rumors or things that no one knows about for sure. Thank you again for your support. Thank you everyone for stopping. Maybe I shouldn't be on here, ruining your discussions. I just feel the need to love my family I guess. Thanks again. God bless.
  • Athena
    The motive here is clear. Davila wanted what she couldn’t have. What part of that is so tough to understand? Why does there have to be a sexual relationship under that for it to be understandable? Maybe Davila wanted one, I don’t know. But whatever, she had no reason at all to kill them and take Kassidy, and she needs to rot in hell.

    "No reason" is what's hard to understand. Because, generally speaking, people don't do things like this for no reason at all. If you are not presented with all the facts, assuming that there was some sexual relationship somewhere at somepoint is not unreasonable. It may be false (as WMYT&R; has clearly stated), but it's not unreasonable.

    People simply want to grasp heinous crimes. "No reason" is impossible to grasp. Love triangles are involved in cases like this often enough to to make it a valid consideration. Having watched this case unfold on local news, I can tell you that the relationship between the killer and the victims was the first thing news stations wanted to determine. The way they initially talked about it, it was like they were expecting to uncover said love triangle.
  • I will drop it. I didn’t realize how offensive it would be. So to everybody I apoligize for that.


    Thank you! I appreciate that, and I hope that you'll come back and post on other topics. Normally we don't react so strongly to new posters right off the bat, so it may be that you just kinda stepped in it today.

    I appreciate your apology - let's just pretend this one didn't happen. :)
  • personalopinion
    Yes, because you said it more than a month after the last post on the topic. We had the gay rumor shut down within a few posts, but you’ve now brought that one up again as well. It has been refuted by the family and friends of Tim and Randi, so as far as I’m concerned that was over weeks ago. But now you’re here stirring it right back up.





    I was unaware of that. And again i apoligize.
  • When the family has been nothing but gracious and has asked us politely to please not further this line of rumor, I don't think it's unreasonable for us to ask it to stop. And I hope everyone here knows that I am not about censorship as a rule.

    The rumor has been put out there, we all know it's out there now, but it really doesn't do a thing other than hurt the victims' family at this point. And while I have no problem at all being all hateful to the perpetrators, we do kinda try to cut victims' families some slack when they weren't involved in the crime and when they're as nice as this family has been.

    So I don't think it's bad to ask this one to just drop.
  • carol13
    my husband and I did state what we knew to be true, that the rumor was innaccurate, and she continued with the line of 'if this was the reason.' We knew it not to be, she wasn't interested in anything other than gossip, she continued to pursue it.
  • personalopinion
    Their family is here. You know that now. So it might be best to just let it go. You’re welcome to post, but I’m asking you to just drop this particular subject for now, especially in light of the fact that it’s the victims of this crime that you’re talking about. If you choose to stay and continue posting in this thread, it’ll be open season, and I hate to do that to a brand new poster. The more you talk, though, the more it looks like you really were just trying to say the juiciest thing you could find.




    I will drop it. I didn't realize how offensive it would be. So to everybody I apoligize for that.
  • Athena
    I'd like to point out that PersonalOpinion did state that the swingers comment was a rumor. I don't think it's fair to jump all over someone for restating a rumor they heard, so long as they don't state it as fact (which she didn't, that I saw). If you know better, feel free to step in an clear things up, but to accuse PersonalOpinion of somehow slandering these folks by simply restating a rumor as such is a bit unreasonable (that comment is directed toward folks other than WMYT&R;, who is free to be as unreasonable as she cares to).

    This incident was an absolute tragedy, no matter how those involved were living.

    That being said, given the nature of this site, people are bound to speculate. I do hope that any of the victims' family members who may be reading this do not take the conjecture personally. We all like to make sense of things and, when one is not presented with all the facts, speculation is a natural tendency.
  • Are you seriously telling me that what i said is worse the the comment made about Tim having relations with a man!!! I am not goin to argue I made my opinion trying to help figure out this horrific crime and i get attacked. I mean who’s to say anyone will ever figure out why. I wasn’t trying to get a reaction.


    Yes, because you said it more than a month after the last post on the topic. We had the gay rumor shut down within a few posts, but you've now brought that one up again as well. It has been refuted by the family and friends of Tim and Randi, so as far as I'm concerned that was over weeks ago. But now you're here stirring it right back up.

    The motive here is clear. Davila wanted what she couldn't have. What part of that is so tough to understand? Why does there have to be a sexual relationship under that for it to be understandable? Maybe Davila wanted one, I don't know. But whatever, she had no reason at all to kill them and take Kassidy, and she needs to rot in hell.

    Okay, y'all.. gloves off. Say what you gotta say.
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    Not five posts ago I had Tim and Randi’s family here asking to let it go and understand that they were not swingers. I’m asking you to let it go as well. The fact is, it doesn’t make any difference in Davila’s guilt. What it does do is smear the reputation of these murdered soldiers who served their country honorably and lost their lives to a brutal murder in the process.


    IMPQUEEN,
    You are an angel. Thank you. You understood what I was asking and you are standing up for it, and in reality you are standing up for Tim and Randi too. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
  • personalopinion
    BULLSHIT! You said the most offensive thing you heard in the rumor mill hoping to get a reaction, and you did.



    Are you seriously telling me that what i said is worse the the comment made about Tim having relations with a man!!! I am not goin to argue I made my opinion trying to help figure out this horrific crime and i get attacked. I mean who's to say anyone will ever figure out why. I wasn't trying to get a reaction.
  • Angel
    And once again I am NOT TRYING to offend anyone….truely im not.


    Well, you did and still are. Why don't you just shut the fuck up about it, since with every word you type, you dig yourself deeper into that hole. And make yourself look more ignorant.
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    I truely am not trying to slandering them. I hope that you guys find the truth. I did not mean to hurt anybody. I am trying to make sense of it myself and after everything i have read and an associate who made a statement. I posted my opinion. Everybody is saying im slandering them but have you not read all the comments on here….so i apoligize to the family if i’ve offended you but that was not at all my intentions..


    That is fine. But if that is the case let it go and stop the discussion.
  • Well if nobody asks i won’t tell


    Except that you came here and insinuated that Tim and Randi were swingers. So you did tell, even though you had no real way of knowing the truth.

    Not five posts ago I had Tim and Randi's family here asking to let it go and understand that they were not swingers. I'm asking you to let it go as well. The fact is, it doesn't make any difference in Davila's guilt. What it does do is smear the reputation of these murdered soldiers who served their country honorably and lost their lives to a brutal murder in the process.

    Their family is here. You know that now. So it might be best to just let it go. You're welcome to post, but I'm asking you to just drop this particular subject for now, especially in light of the fact that it's the victims of this crime that you're talking about. If you choose to stay and continue posting in this thread, it'll be open season, and I hate to do that to a brand new poster. The more you talk, though, the more it looks like you really were just trying to say the juiciest thing you could find.

    We have a lot of soldiers here. Most of them are finding this line of posting really annoying. So gloves off if you keep it up.
  • Angel
    Well if nobody asks i won’t tell


    Then you don't deserve the designation of army wife! Sorry bitch!
    The code of conduct is there for a reason, and if you don't like it, you should get your ass as far away from it as possible! Like leave the fucking military, have your husband leave, or divorce him. Twit!
  • personalopinion
    Just for the record, this is the first time I have ever seen PERSONALOPINION post here, and I am beginning to wonder if she might in fact be one of the “trolls” we get from time to time who post for no other reason than to hurt the innocent victims and their families even more, and to stir up as much shit as they possibly can. And with every comment PO posts, I tend to believe it more! I’m sorry you had to see stupid shit like that, posted by a fucking moron.




    And once again I am NOT TRYING to offend anyone....truely im not.
  • arnold11
    BULLSHIT! You said the most offensive thing you heard in the rumor mill hoping to get a reaction, and you did.
  • personalopinion
    Let me break it down Barney style for you. “don’t ask, don’t tell” means The army wont ask and you should not tell the army. to include anyone in the army. So if it is not you, and you know, you MUST tell.





    Well if nobody asks i won't tell
  • Angel
    Carol and Arnold, I appreciate your help. I am so pissed at this point that I am literally SHAKING! so it is taking me twice as long as usual to compose and post my replies to this ignorant fool! And I am just about sick and fucking tired of it. I'm about to unleash holy hell on someone - the kid gloves are coming off! Feel free to keep helping me though! As slow as I'm typing right now, I need all the help I can get. :-D
  • Thank you again from the bottom of my heart, to those of you who are not slandering Tim and Randi. Your sense of right, and your love, whether you knew them personally or not, means the world to the family. THANK YOU!!!


    WMYT&R;,

    No, thank you. Your family and friends (yes, Carol13 and Arnold11, this means you too) have done so much for the memory of Tim and Randi just by your grace and dignity throughout your loss.

    I am sorry that rumors go flying. I don't know if you've already heard this one before, but I appreciate your calm and reason in the face of it. Tim and Randi were a beautiful couple and obviously very happy and in love. It's clear they loved Kassidy dearly as well.

    I hope your family is holding up okay.
  • personalopinion
    Please, please, please: stop the assumptions, the lies and the hurtful things you say about two wonderful, innocent and loved people. We loved them. We miss them. It still hurts every day. And things like this make it so much harder to deal with. LEAVE IT BE PEOPLE. Say kind, wonderful things. Let their memories live on. But please stop the meanness.





    I truely am not trying to slandering them. I hope that you guys find the truth. I did not mean to hurt anybody. I am trying to make sense of it myself and after everything i have read and an associate who made a statement. I posted my opinion. Everybody is saying im slandering them but have you not read all the comments on here....so i apoligize to the family if i've offended you but that was not at all my intentions..
  • Angel
    But that is pretty much what she is doing. They can’t serve this country cuz people whom are bisexual can’t read the same as someone who is strait or don’t deserve the same rights. Whatever they do behind closed doors is their business. Does not mean that they have dishonored anybody.


    BullFUCKINGshit! Read post #93 again retard! It's the fact that they are dishonoring the military by running their mouths, that is wrong. Do you have a comprehension problem, or are you being purposely dense?
  • arnold11
    But that is pretty much what she is doing. They can’t serve this country cuz people whom are bisexual can’t read the same as someone who is strait or don’t deserve the same rights. Whatever they do behind closed doors is their business. Does not mean that they have dishonored anybody.


    what? does this make sense to you? do you understand the writing coming from your computer?

    Let me break it down Barney style for you. "don't ask, don't tell" means The army wont ask and you should not tell the army. to include anyone in the army. So if it is not you, and you know, you MUST tell.
  • Angel
    Thank you again from the bottom of my heart, to those of you who are not slandering Tim and Randi. Your sense of right, and your love, whether you knew them personally or not, means the world to the family. THANK YOU!!!


    Just for the record, this is the first time I have ever seen PERSONALOPINION post here, and I am beginning to wonder if she might in fact be one of the "trolls" we get from time to time who post for no other reason than to hurt the innocent victims and their families even more, and to stir up as much shit as they possibly can. And with every comment PO posts, I tend to believe it more! I'm sorry you had to see stupid shit like that, posted by a fucking moron.
  • personalopinion
    Don’t you dare imply that angel was attacking any soldiers commitment to their country. YOU were sullying dead soldiers memories by throwing out whatever rumors seemed juiciest to you. and the Uniform Code of Military Justice states that if you do know of any infractions, no matter how you feel about them, you MUST report them or you are as guilty as they are.




    But that is pretty much what she is doing. They can't serve this country cuz people whom are bisexual can't read the same as someone who is strait or don't deserve the same rights. Whatever they do behind closed doors is their business. Does not mean that they have dishonored anybody.
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    I am commenting again for one reason and one reason only. I am first of all, thanking those that know when to be respectful and keep their fictitious, uneducated comments to themselves. Also I am thankful for those that actually stand up for justice, for our country, for family and for friends, and for those that are staying considerate that Tim and Randi’s family members might be logged on here and participating in these conversations as well.

    And then I am asking from the bottom of my heart, as a sister of Tim and Randi Miller's that if you don’t know them personally and know their innermost secrets and lives-that you don’t slander the innocent dead, with untrue and fabricated comments about them, their love, their careers, their life, their service to their country, their baby girl and their thoughts and feelings. As their sister, I KNOW them. I know what they did and who they are. I know what kind of lifestyle they lived and I know what they did and why. And I can tell you without a doubt that they were not involved in the lifestyle one of you has so disgustingly suggested they were involved in.

    I know people are just trying to solve all this horrible mess and feel some closure to the pain. But really, if you have no idea who or what this is about, don’t pretend to. We, as the family, know things…information from the Military and Police.

    But all that anyone but family needs to know, is that Tim and Randi were slaughtered unnecessarily and brutally. That their baby girl was kidnapped. And that Ivette snapped and did the most horrible thing possible…took two innocent lives and destroyed countless others’ lives. She was jealous of Tim and Randi and what they had…a strong, true and deep love. A beautiful family. Tim was handsome and a wonderful man. He loved Randi wholeheartedly. Randi was a sweet, thoughtful woman. Devoted and in love with her husband. Ivette saw that and wanted that. She murdered for that. There is no justification in cold blooded, premeditated murder.

    Please, please, please: stop the assumptions, the lies and the hurtful things you say about two wonderful, innocent and loved people. We loved them. We miss them. It still hurts every day. And things like this make it so much harder to deal with. LEAVE IT BE PEOPLE. Say kind, wonderful things. Let their memories live on. But please stop the meanness.

    Thank you again from the bottom of my heart, to those of you who are not slandering Tim and Randi. Your sense of right, and your love, whether you knew them personally or not, means the world to the family. THANK YOU!!!
  • Angel
    So basically your telling be to ruin the lives of ppl just like Ivette did. You need to face the fact of life honey. It happens and you must not get out much if u never seen it. If they swing or not they are still fighting for this country regaurdless of there sexuality!!


    No, HONEY, you need to get a fucking clue! I really do not give a flying roundhouse FUCK what two consenting adults, or four, or forty, do in their spare time! What I care about is the fact that they are willing to be so open about it and casually toss out things like that. It breaks the military code of conduct, and therefore defames the entire military. They have ruined their own life already by dishonoring the uniform - not by their actions, necessarily - but because they are so stupid that they have to run their mouths and make the military as a whole look immoral. And for that, YES, they need to be reported!
  • personalopinion
    So, I gather you imagined coming here, throwing out rumors that you have absolutely nothing to back up, and enjoying the conversation that followed? How did that work out for you?




    Well thats why i used the word RUMORS and when i read the comments on here posted from myspace i posted my opinion of a possible motive. I think its a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to their families. And if you are in Lewis you will know that these horrible crimes of passion have been happening a lot.
  • arnold11
    So basically your telling be to ruin the lives of ppl just like Ivette did. You need to face the fact of life honey. It happens and you must not get out much if u never seen it. If they swing or not they are still fighting for this country regaurdless of there sexuality!!


    Don't you dare imply that angel was attacking any soldiers commitment to their country. YOU were sullying dead soldiers memories by throwing out whatever rumors seemed juiciest to you. and the Uniform Code of Military Justice states that if you do know of any infractions, no matter how you feel about them, you MUST report them or you are as guilty as they are.
  • personalopinion
    As I said, if you know any military personnel who are doing this, it is your duty (or your husband’s) to report them. Why, you might ask….well I’ll tell you. When joining the military a person signs a document stating that they will represent their country to the best of their ability, and be a good example for people from other countries. It is called a military code of conduct. If there are people in the military who are doing this, and are talking freely about this lifestyle to others, then they have just chucked the code of conduct out the window. And cast a negative image on all other military personnel as well. I can’t stress it enough to you how very offensive this is to me, and should be to your husband, if he believes in the document he signed. And if he doesn’t think that it is wrong to malign the army in that manner, then he should probably see about getting out. Soon!





    So basically your telling be to ruin the lives of ppl just like Ivette did. You need to face the fact of life honey. It happens and you must not get out much if u never seen it. If they swing or not they are still fighting for this country regaurdless of there sexuality!!
  • arnold11
    No i had no intentions on offending anybody but by the comments that were left on the myspace and rumors kind of influenced my opinion. Ur right some people don’t live their life like that and maybe have tried before. If that is the motive in this case I would say that Randi and Tim were moving on with their life together and Ivette could not handle that.


    So, I gather you imagined coming here, throwing out rumors that you have absolutely nothing to back up, and enjoying the conversation that followed? How did that work out for you?
  • Angel
    And P.S. - Thank you Arnold! I appreciate the information....
  • personalopinion
    On behalf of swingers the world over i think it was somewhat offensive (although hopefully unintentionally so), because swingers who spend time in the lifestyle are usually extremely discreet about that. There are pretty major rules about not discussing swinging outside the events, because most couples who try it don’t do it forever and do have other lives that they are careful to keep separate from their “lifestyle” activities.





    No i had no intentions on offending anybody but by the comments that were left on the myspace and rumors kind of influenced my opinion. Ur right some people don't live their life like that and maybe have tried before. If that is the motive in this case I would say that Randi and Tim were moving on with their life together and Ivette could not handle that.
  • Angel
    This is carol13’s husband. the Millers were not swingers. Cooper is not gay. Timothy is not gay nor was he sharing his wife with anyone. Davila is a crazy bitch who was jealous of the Millers and Coopers friendship. that’s it.


    And PERSONALOPINION needs to check her facts, before sullying the reputation of Army personnel.
  • Angel
    I am an Army Wife. I however don’t get down like that but i’ve known people and still know ppl that do!


    If you are indeed an Army wife, and you know for a fact that couples on your post are doing this, it is your duty to report them. And since you claim to know for a fact that it happens a lot on post, then you MUST know names. Otherwise you have not gotten your information firsthand, and it is simply unsubstantiated conjecture.....

    As I said, if you know any military personnel who are doing this, it is your duty (or your husband's) to report them. Why, you might ask....well I'll tell you. When joining the military a person signs a document stating that they will represent their country to the best of their ability, and be a good example for people from other countries. It is called a military code of conduct. If there are people in the military who are doing this, and are talking freely about this lifestyle to others, then they have just chucked the code of conduct out the window. And cast a negative image on all other military personnel as well. I can't stress it enough to you how very offensive this is to me, and should be to your husband, if he believes in the document he signed. And if he doesn't think that it is wrong to malign the army in that manner, then he should probably see about getting out. Soon!
  • arnold11
    This is carol13's husband. the Millers were not swingers. Cooper is not gay. Timothy is not gay nor was he sharing his wife with anyone. Davila is a crazy bitch who was jealous of the Millers and Coopers friendship. that's it.
  • On behalf of swingers the world over i think it was somewhat offensive (although hopefully unintentionally so), because swingers who spend time in the lifestyle are usually extremely discreet about that. There are pretty major rules about not discussing swinging outside the events, because most couples who try it don't do it forever and do have other lives that they are careful to keep separate from their "lifestyle" activities.

    Kind of like when Danielle Van Dam was murdered and people made a big deal about her parents being swingers, when actually that had little or nothing to do with her death at the hand of David Westerfield. I wouldn't want this obviously loving couple's reputation sullied over what they may or may not have done when doors were closed. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, because the crazy bitch that killed them and kidnapped Kassidy is guilty. The evidence there is very clear. However, there's no real evidence to indicate that the victims were ever intimate with anyone outside their marriage.

    Now I have no problem sullying the reputation of someone accused of murder or rape, but I see no need to defame the victims.

    Davila, though? Total wannabe. She wanted Tim and/or Randi, she couldn't have them, she killed them. Nasty gutterslag.
  • personalopinion
    Is it just me or are there any other military wives on here who found that comment offensive? Please let me know.



    I am an Army Wife. I however don't get down like that but i've known people and still know ppl that do!
  • personalopinion
    I respect all ur opinions about the swinger comment but im not sayin ALL military ppl are like that but i've seen it a lot military or not its a lifestyle and who is to say that this outcome is not of that. I did read all the comments about cooper and Tim and Randi and blah blah blah. Im just stating that it is a possibility
  • carol13
    very offensive, not only to the military, military families, but also to my husband's dead friends and their loved ones.
  • Angel
    Jesus angel, we’re both army wives, you busy tonight?


    No, what were you thinking of doing? Going on a dumbass hunt? That's what I'd like to do! Or maybe you'd just like to swap husbands for thee night, since that's what we do?

    Is it just me or are there any other military wives on here who found that comment offensive? Please let me know.
  • personalopinion
    Frankly, i don’t care if they were doing entire units at giant Army orgies on base - and I don’t think you really do either. At this point, it’s pretty clear that Davila is guilty. Personally, I think Davila’s a psycho hose beast who wanted something she couldn’t have.




    As i also said WE all know shes guilty.
  • carol13
    you're right personalopinion, it's an opinion, but it would be nice if it had the slightest bit of factual information influencing it.
  • mom of 4
    I agree Imp! Who the fuck cares about their sex lives. This crazy ass bitch is a murderer plain and simple. Swinging isn't a "military thing" either. There are hundreds of thousands of couples who swing in all walks of life. They don't murder people because they are swingers for god sakes.
  • carol13
    Jesus angel, we're both army wives, you busy tonight?
  • personalopinion
    Are you saying because they were from fort lewis, they must be swingers, or are you saying there’s a rumor at fort lewis that they were swingers? Please be clear. These are my husbands friends, I want you to explain where you are coming from. If you know these people, say so.

    As far as ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ what the fuck are you refering to?




    Sorry i should have been more clear. There are rumors of them being swingers and no i don't know them personaly that is why its called an opinion. As far as don't ask don't tell thats pretty self explanitory. In the Military ppl can be court martialed for that kind of lifestyle. Not saying its bad its all about personal prefference. If that is the motive at all.
  • Angel
    Are you saying that in the military, it is understood that swinging is an acceptable alternative lifestyle, as long as it is not discussed openly? Jeez, Personalopinion...I wish I had known THAT years ago! I'll have to run and tell my husband, who is in the army and whose rank is major. I don't think we will be doing that anyway, even though it is an acceptable thing, and "in the military this tends to happen a lot!!! ". Where the fuck do you get your info from? Playboy? Hustler? The Army Fuckfest Magazine?!?! That is not only one of the most idiotic comments I've ever seen, it is also one of the most insulting! It is insulting to every DECENT person in the military. How fucking DARE you suggest that soldiers in the army are just one big, Fuck-your-neighbor group. That's sick! Just because you have lowlife friends who don't mind whoring themselves and their spouses, doesn't mean that it is a pervasive pastime. Fuck off!
  • So basically what you're saying is that you believe the victims in this case were swingers, and... what?

    I really don't see how it matters whether they were or not, but as their families have read here and commented, I don't know if that's information they would like to hear whether true or not. Did you know the victims well? Do you have anything to base those ideas on? Or do you just *think* these murdered soldiers and loving parents were screwing around with multiple partners?

    Frankly, i don't care if they were doing entire units at giant Army orgies on base - and I don't think you really do either. At this point, it's pretty clear that Davila is guilty. Personally, I think Davila's a psycho hose beast who wanted something she couldn't have.

    Anyway, welcome to the site. You can use the quote function just by highlighting and clicking the sections of the post you want to quote, that may make it easier for you.
  • carol13
    I am convinced that this particular groupof friends were “swingers” and being of Ft. Lewis rumor has it!!! And im sure you have heard the phrase “DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL”


    Are you saying because they were from fort lewis, they must be swingers, or are you saying there's a rumor at fort lewis that they were swingers? Please be clear. These are my husbands friends, I want you to explain where you are coming from. If you know these people, say so.

    As far as 'don't ask, don't tell' what the fuck are you refering to?
  • personalopinion
    Hello ppl im a newbie and i been reading all the comments and i'd like to make a few myself.




    clarissa
    Mar 8, 2008 at 1:12 am -

    You people are really getting worked up over this case. I am sure there is more to this story,
    so I’ll remain on the fence until I have all the facts from both sides. Face it, none of us know
    what happened that night (only what allegedly happened) and we have no right to judge anyone, not
    the accused, not the family, no one. If I was her sister, I’d probably be just as hostile if people
    were attacking me and my family relentlessly. They are victims too in all of this.



    PERSONALOPINION~
    This is not just a case!! When you serve in the military the ppl you meet become like family like it or not.
    Thats coming from someone who lives the Military lifestyle, and in the past couple of yrs there has been tooooo.....many
    of these "cases" goin on Especially in Ft. Lewis. I personally would not trash the sister so much cuz she has an obligation
    to defend her sister no matter right or wrong. On that note shes probly really shocked and her life in her hometown is more
    then likely not so pleasant right now and has no other way of reacting then defensive.


    clarissa
    Mar 8, 2008 at 1:58 pm -

    Where do people like you come from? Seriously, Im not even joking, what the fuck are you talking about???
    Are you actually saying that this biatch might have some JUSTIFICATION for killing that couple??? Or are
    you alleging that she is innocent, even though she confessed to the murders and was found with their baby
    in her apartment? I’m getting tired of people coming on here trying to tell me what I can and cannot say
    about a fucking MURDERER. And whom I can and cannot judge. Come back here when you have some sense.

    Where do people like me come from? Get over yourself. Just cause I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean I’m
    some fucking alien. NO ONE has justification for taking 2 lives no matter what. Confession? He said, she
    said, they said, their momma said, etc. Baby? She was proven to be friends with the victims. If she didn’t
    know them at all, the baby would be enough to convict her. I am not alleging she is innocent, there’s way
    more to this story and I’m waiting to hear it before I smear anyone.



    PERSONALOPINION~
    I don't think Clarissa was denying the fact that the bitch was guilty i think we are mostly interested in motive.
    WHY???? But she does make it look like shes justifying the murders! CRAZY!! With that said I don't want to
    copy and paste everthing i wanted to comment on so here i go.

    I think Tim, Randy, & Ivette were all friends and in any friendship or
    relationship there are trials and tribulations. Some resolved and some not. I am convinced that this particular group
    of friends were "swingers" and being of Ft. Lewis rumor has it!!! This is not a love triangle its more then that.
    Im sure i don't have to define swingers!!! But sharing your loved ones doesn't always have the greatest outcome.
    Especially when you are a tight group who hang all the time. People begin to develop feelings!! And some
    people like Ivette don't take well to rejection. So here sits this scorned woman trying to remain part of the group
    or family. Envious, and jealous. Some people might think that this scenerio sounds crazy, but in the military
    this tends to happen a lot!!! And im sure you have heard the phrase "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL"
  • solange822001
    WMYTAR, it makes me so unbelieveably happy that Kassidy is going to be taken care of. I am not the most spiritual person out there, but I do believe God has a way of working things out, and I have a feeling you are right about what little Kassidy sees in you and your husband. Take good care of her!
  • I know they are with her, every hour, everyday-watching her, loving her and taking care of her.


    OMG I've got a little something in my eye,

    Prayers to you and your family and friends abound from my heart. Keep loving that little girl!
  • WMYT&R;,

    Thank you for posting. It's so good to hear that Kassidy's family loves her and will see that she is taken care of. I am so sorry for your loss, and glad that you are able to find some measure of comfort and peace in your faith.

    I appreciate your coming here to update us. Please feel free to hang around if you feel like it, and please keep us updated. If there is anything we can do for Kassidy, please let us know.
  • Lizard
    Thank you for posting. Hearing about Kassidy...well, it's very moving. Thank you again, and I'm so sorry for your family's loss.
  • We Miss You Tim & Randi!
    I am Timmy and Randi's sister-in-law. My husband and Timmy are brothers. I can't even begin to tell you the sorrow this has caused in our family. Words seem so inadequate. Our heartbreak is so intense it's hard to breathe at times. We miss them, and always will. We can't even begin to imagine them no longer in our lives, our futures. The only solace in this whole nightmare is little Kassidy. She is an angel. A happy, smiling, loving little girl. When she smiles and gives you a hug or kiss you want to never let her go. I know she misses her momma and daddy and knows they are gone. She LOVED both of them, you see it in every picture of them together. We played a home video of Timmy talking to Kassidy and she just sat on my husband’s lap, perfectly quiet and still…watching and listening. She then started looking around for her daddy…she KNEW his voice and she was trying to find him. She started coo-ing and giggling, getting very excited waving her arms and talking back to Daddy. She would then just stop and stare at the screen, lovingly looking at him. It was the saddest, yet dearest thing to see. Sometimes when we are playing with her, loving her, hugging and kissing her, she just looks at you with this intense stare, full of love and awe. I think this is when she sees her momma or daddy’s face in us. Like God is changing what we look like and who we are, and is having us be her momma and daddy(Tim and Randi) that are actually playing, loving, hugging and kissing their little girl. It’s like she sees them not us, and you see her love for them. I know they are with her, every hour, everyday-watching her, loving her and taking care of her.
    The memorial service was beautiful; followed by a full honorable military burial. When the bagpipes played, the 21 gun salute was issued and the trumpet sounded it felt like your heart was being ripped out. Timmy and Randi were two of the most amazing, loving and fun people. They loved each other with every fiber of their hearts. They married young and quick, because they had found something rare and beautiful and didn’t want to Army life to separate them. I don’t for a minute believe Ivette’s claim to Randi cheating with her ex. Randi was crazy over Timmy, and he was a just as in love with her. They both loved their baby girl more than is imaginable. Two of the best people this world has seen. Tim and Randi lived life so fully. They loved their families and friends. They enjoyed dancing, riding their motorcycle, photography, scuba diving, crocheting (Randi), working on his truck, serving their country, helping others…I could go on for hours. They were both kind and selfless, full of love for others and those less fortunate.

    It all seems so pointless and unfair. We don’t understand it, but we are able to find peace in knowing that the Lord has a purpose in everything that has happened; and that gives us hope. Through suffering we are made strong. God had Timmy and Randi’s lives planned out, before time even begin. He knew they would only live to be 27 and 25 years old. We don’t know why, but God knows. Maybe they were put in this world, to not only brighten our lives with who they were, but maybe to give us Kassidy. I don’t know. There seems to be no sense in any of this, but God knows. His plan is far greater than ours. He gives a peace far beyond understanding. He is our great comforter. All I know is that we need continue on with the memory of who they were and how we loved them. To live on, for little Kassidy and to love her like they would. And to look forward to, one day, seeing them again. We will always, always miss you Timmy and Randi!
  • solange822001
    Thanks Saddend One, welcome to the site. Please keep us posted, and thank you for telling us about the victim. I don't think anyone who reads about this on the internet has any doubt that this was a great father and a great husband who didnt deserve this, Randi as well.
  • saddend one
    Wonder to answer your question, Randi and Tim met in the Army they were not from the same town. Randi was from NH and she was buried in her home town on Friday while Tim was buried in our hometown yesterday. I did not get the pleasure of ever meeting Randi due to Tim and I went our separate ways after high school and we just recently got back in contact on myspace due to our high school renuion myspace page. As for Randi's mom I am unable to answer that question at this time but I can find out from Tim's family. They would know. At the funeral service that we had for Tim yesterday it was not just about Tim they were reliving both Randi and Tims life. As I find out more information on this I will post things.
  • This woman who claimed to be their friend deserves to rott in prision for the rest of her life breaking rocks and knowing and living with the fact that she destroyed these two loving families, all their friends and most of all their 6 month old daughter Kassidy. Giving her the death pently would be an easy way out for her. Well that is my opinion.


    Saddend One, I am so very sorry for your loss. Thank you for coming here and clarifying for us. I think it's pretty clear that Tim was straight, that he and Randi were very much in love, and that their lives were ended by evil, pure and simple. I'm sorry you had to find us like this. I'm glad Kassidy's with her extended family now - but it sucks beyond words that she can't be with her mommy and daddy anymore. That murdering bitch Davila needs to pay for this crime.
  • Wonder
    Thanks for the update Sadden one. I am so sorry that any of you had to bare this
    This whole situation sucks... people need to think thru the consequences before acting out...

    SADDEN ONE, I do have a question or 2 was Tim and Randi's funeral together or separate, was Randi's family in town. Do you know why Randi's mother wasn't mention is she deceased ?
  • bornagainpagan
    I am not alleging she is innocent, there’s way more to this story and I’m waiting to hear it before I smear anyone.


    I'm not. Where do you get a chance like this to smear on a whimsy?on a pretext? let alone on a confession and child possession. To continue the rhyme, I am here to smear...
  • Lizard
    Saddend One, thanks for posting. What a terrible day for everyone who loved him. I know the thoughts and prayers of many, many people will be with Kassidy and the people who knew and loved Tim and Randi.
  • saddend one
    I signed up for this just to post on this subject. Tim and I grew up together. We graduated high school together. And today I went and visited our old high school but for a very sad reason. Today Tim was buried. As 500 of us sat in our old gym remembering Tim you could hear all the sniffles and tears as many of us cried for our old friend. After his memorial of remembering how he lived we joined a long stream of vehicles to attend his burial. And even then all you can hear are the cries of everyone who knew and loved him. Tim was a very fun and loving guy. He always knew how to make you smile. Walking down the halls he would literally bump into you just to make you smile. The way he lived his life surviving Iraq twice to come home and be killed in his on home was just heart breaking to our small town. The worst part was looking at his daughter as she was being held by grandma sleeping not understanding a single thing that was going on around her. This is nothing but a physco woman who broken into a very loving families home and murdered two innocent people in cold blood. This crap about Tim being gay is BS. Tim could never ever go close to being gay. Maybe in a joking manner which a lot of close friends do. (No man can deny that). And Randi having an affair please that is also BS. She was so in love with Tim. And she had every right to be. This woman who claimed to be their friend deserves to rott in prision for the rest of her life breaking rocks and knowing and living with the fact that she destroyed these two loving families, all their friends and most of all their 6 month old daughter Kassidy. Giving her the death pently would be an easy way out for her. Well that is my opinion.
  • I am trying to catch up on the news, been busy last few days

    and I can't believe u Clarrisa, that is exactly what this site is for, if you don't like it... sorry.

    I know what happened that night, 2 people were killed and a babys parents taken away, from someone who confessed... what more do I need to know???

    as for her sister, I can understand supporting your blood... but if she publicly makes statements about the issue, and attacks peoples opinnions than we have the right to do the same to her. When she puts comments on the front page of her private myspace for all the world to see... she is inviting us to drag her into it as well.

    OMG... sexual gratification on the fence, that is hilarious Nurse Rhonda!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Wonder
    WHY Would she do this to HIS friends

    something went terribly wrong -
    She wasn't welcome, she wasn't invited, included ? They claimed they wanted to be alone not to stop by, they had plans?

    Timeline of events please ?
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