Dustin Howard Is A Bully

I don’t know why some kids think its so funny to be mean as cat dirt.

The poor parents did tell the school and the other parents. I’m sure they will question the actions they didn’t take and wonder about the ones they did for the rest of their lives.

I think its only fair that this little bitch be reminded of what he caused on a daily basis, as well.

I just graduated high school two years ago, and I remember picking on boys at the playground but NEVER was there an actual bullying issue like this. There was some simple teasing and words, but never actual beating up and harassing constantly. My brother is in the 5th grade and has already been in fist fights and been teased badly enough to where he feels the need to get physical.

what is it with kids this days? and why arent the parents teaching their children respect? I dont get it, now a boy has lost his life over some insecure child who wanted to pick on someone.

I was little in school and was picked on a lot. (okay so I was probably a little different too) It wasn’t until I developed some muscle …..14 or 15 and could finally fight back, before I stopped getting picked on. The worst time for me was 5th-8th grades. Changing schools etc. One of the reasons I home schooled my daughter from 1st-4th grade was she got picked on in kindergarten. When she felt ready, we sent her to public school. Granted, we’ve also lived in a rural area the last two years so I was more comfortable sending my daughter to a smaller school.
I home school my 5 yr old right now.
Kids should be able to go to school without all the bullshit. Bully’s suck.

I’ve been reading on this -it was known that Dakota had a heart problem. This kid basically challenged him to a fight. There was a circle of kids watching, and cell phone video of him getting hit in the chest and back repeatedly.

Now…let me just compare for a minute. A few years ago during the hockey play offs- a full fledged athlete with no health problems was his in the chest by a hockey puck and his heart actually stopped briefly. He ended up okay….but its *that* easy.

Imagine having a bad ticker and being hit over and over…Jesus.

If this has been going on for two years and the school was notified then I am sure the punk ass bullies parents were notified. Sounds like they did nothing to stop it. It can’t bring their son back but it sounds to me like a wrongful death civil suit. Even if I didn’t win I would thoroughly enjoy dragging their family name through the dirt.

If this has been going on for two years and the school was notified then I am sure the punk ass bullies parents were notified. Sounds like they did nothing to stop it. It can’t bring their son back but it sounds to me like a wrongful death civil suit. Even if I didn’t win I would thoroughly enjoy dragging their family name through the dirt.

This happened close to DeRemus’s home, apparently before/after school so I don’t think the family has grounds to sue the school district for failing to keep DeRemus safe. I wonder if the parents ever took it up with LE. I’m sure theDeRemus can go after the parents of the bully, if he is tried as a juvenile, but as an adult, I’m not sure. I’m lucky that my youngest (12, almost 13) is the type that is kind to animals and takes up for the underdog. He has never been bullied, but that could be because at 12 he is 6′ tall and weighs 185 lbs. I’m 5’6″ and he towers over me.

Sounds like the dad should have had a chat with the bully’s dad.

My son, was bullied for a short time in Kindergarten. The teachers, bus driver, and the principal, all contacted the bully’s mother. Nothing stopped.

I went to school, his teacher and myself came up with a letter stating something like this……..

Dear Ms. XXXX
Ms. XXXX is here with me today to address this issue with her son and yours – and that this action had been taken and that action had been taken, to no avail. (Then, the last paragraph), Ms. XXXX feels that we have exhausted every means possible with you and XXXX (the bully kid). It seems you are unwilling to cooperate and resolve this issue. I feel it is my duty, to inform you that Ms. XXXX has your name and number and has found out where your home is located. Ms. XXXX has stated that if your child upsets her child, XXXXX (my son), again, that she will be personally to see you.

It went on in further detail, stating how it was not a threat, that she felt it her “duty” to warn her, blah, blah.

Either way, I was contacted by the mom, who was bold on the telephone, but didn’t have shit to say when I slid in her driveway and threw the truck door open. It was I’m sorry, he won’t do it again, oh I didn’t realize – shit like that. So during our face to face, I made it perfectly clear, if her son upset mine – I would upset her until she got a handle on her brat.

A lot of times, a bully’s parents were bullies themselves and think its okay. But just like most bullies, when confronted and they must actually fight someone, it ends. I wish the boy’s dad would have found it necessary to go see the bully’s dad – I’m not blaming him – I’m just saying when the school cannot produce results – sometimes you have to get off your ass and go see some parents yourself.

I don’t know maybe you can do that kind of stuff if you live in a one horse town like I do. Maybe that wouldn’t apply to their situation – I just know my kid would not be bullied for over a year without me sticking my nose in somewhere in somebody’s business.

I don’t know maybe you can do that kind of stuff if you live in a one horse town like I do. Maybe that wouldn’t apply to their situation – I just know my kid would not be bullied for over a year without me sticking my nose in somewhere in somebody’s business.

Had some new neighbor kids on our culdesac. Bad kids with no guidance or discipline. Well one of the kids was throwing rocks and hit my car. I called the kid on it and told them to go home and stop throwing rocks around my car.
Next thing you know mother or aunty is outside in my face. It went nowhere her stating if she wasn’t pregnant she would wip my ass…
of course my reply was she would never be able to wip my ass under any circumstances. They moved within months.

Just an example of how you can try to talk to people, do the right thing and they won’t see. The kid was wrong and nothing was done.

I don’t know maybe you can do that kind of stuff if you live in a one horse town like I do. Maybe that wouldn’t apply to their situation – I just know my kid would not be bullied for over a year without me sticking my nose in somewhere in somebody’s business.

Had some new neighbor kids on our culdesac. Bad kids with no guidance or discipline. Well one of the kids was throwing rocks and hit my car. I called the kid on it and told them to go home and stop throwing rocks around my car.
Next thing you know mother or aunty is outside in my face. It went nowhere her stating if she wasn’t pregnant she would wip my ass…
of course my reply was she would never be able to wip my ass under any circumstances. They moved within months.

Just an example of how you can try to talk to people, do the right thing and they won’t see. The kid was wrong and nothing was done.

This kind of SHIT makes me so FUCKING ANGRY!!!

My son was bullied in Catholic school by several different students AND 2 teachers AND the principal. When I complained about the students to the teachers, they did nothing but harass him and verbally attack me IN FRONT OF HIM! The principal singled him out for punishment. And to top it all off, when I complained to the parish priest…the FUCKER sided with the teachers instead of doing something about it. Nice stance on harassment(some of which was sexual) from an organization already under fire for abuse.

I pulled my kids from the school after I found out what was going on and then the students there still felt the need to write nasty notes to each other and BLAME HIM because he was there for youth class one night a week. They don’t even go for that anymore.

Kids from this school also picked on him at Boy Scouts and framed him to look like he stole another kid’s money at summer camp. Fucking little assholes make me sick! And the teachers claim that they are teaching christian principles in that hellhole. BULLSHIT!

We’re moving out of state in 2 weeks and my son couldn’t be happier. How many 13 year old kids DO NOT complain about moving cross country and leaving all their friends?

I’m sick of this kind of shit going on. First kid that bullied him in public school had the police show up on their doorstep. I let the pros deal with the assholes who don’t teach their kids respect for others. After that story circulated the school, kids aren’t trying to hit him anymore. Now we just have girls calling him names like “whore”. My mother would have kicked my ass if I had EVER spoken to anyone that way. I told him the next time a girl calls him whore to tell her ‘That’s man-whore to you, idiot.’ and walk away.

Sorry for the rant. I’m putting down my billy club and stepping away from the comment box now

What frustrates the hell out of me is that this kid had a heart problem and could in no way fight back with out risk.

I try to teach my daughter to handle things the “right” way first, if that doesn’t work out, fight back. This kid didn’t even have that opportunity.

Now this family has to suffer through the loss of a child, they will also have to live with the frustration of knowing they tried everything legal to stop the actions that ultimately contributed to his death.

Keyword here is LEGAL. No joke. I would have no problem stepping over that line to protect my child.

Just a thought on the heart condition as I gathered from the stories that this was discovered at autopsy. I’ve heard of a condition called PFO that can kill you unexpectedly during high stress periods. Doesn’t excuse how this particular stressor occurred, just a thought on how some folks have died unexpectedly at stress levels most of us would survive. I don’t have any details on the particular heart condition in this case, just food for thought.

Just a thought on the heart condition as I gathered from the stories that this was discovered at autopsy. I’ve heard of a condition called PFO that can kill you unexpectedly during high stress periods. Doesn’t excuse how this particular stressor occurred, just a thought on how some folks have died unexpectedly at stress levels most of us would survive. I don’t have any details on the particular heart condition in this case, just food for thought.

O-kay where are our nurses? Pirelli makes a good point. Can any of you professionals elaborate on this condition? Like Pirelli, I don’t say this excuses the bully and the bully’s parents for not dealing with their lovely child – just curious about this condition.

DeRemus’ aunt, Wendy McCarley, said about four students were especially troublesome for DeRemus. She said she did not know why students picked on him.

“Maybe because he wasn’t into sports, but that was because he had a heart condition,” said McCarley, who described her nephew as “awesome.”
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She said she and other close friends knew about the heart condition. Others said DeRemus had even talked about it in class.

“He and I talked about the military a lot,” Slavens said. “All his family had been in it, but he couldn’t because of his condition. He accepted it and didn’t let it bother him.”
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“Maybe because he wasn’t into sports, but that was because he had a heart condition,” said McCarley, who described her nephew as “awesome.”~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~She said she and other close friends knew about the heart condition. Others said DeRemus had even talked about it in class.

I thought the heart condition was discovered at autopsy? Can anyone confirm – was the heart condition known before hand or discovered only during the autopsy?

I don’t know – if the bully did know about the heart condition, it only seems to make his actions and his parent’s inactions much worse than before. Also, if the condition was known, I think the parents should have taken a more active role in stopping this harassment – legally or not.

We were talking about this yesterday. Our legal system has picked apart everything SO much that you cannot properly discipline your child with out possibly being called in on abuse charges.

Teachers cannot discipline students, and are downright afraid of them in some cases. The days of my dad can beat up your dad are over because the dad would be in jail.

I thought the heart condition was discovered at autopsy? Can anyone confirm – was the heart condition known before hand or discovered only during the autopsy?

Post #15 confirms it was well known
the info came from the KC Star
http://tinyurl.com/2cokhx

Post #15 confirms it was well knownthe info came from the KC Starhttp://tinyurl.com/2cokhx

Thanks ells.

Teachers cannot discipline students, and are downright afraid of them in some cases. The days of my dad can beat up your dad are over because the dad would be in jail.

Not to be mean, but so what? I’d take a sentence on simple assault to protect my kid. I’d take a sentence on assault with intent to do bodily harm to protect my kid. Whatever it took!!!!

Post #15 confirms it was well knownthe info came from the KC Starhttp://tinyurl.com/2cokhx

Thanks ells.

Teachers cannot discipline students, and are downright afraid of them in some cases. The days of my dad can beat up your dad are over because the dad would be in jail.

Not to be mean, but so what? I’d take a sentence on simple assault to protect my kid. I’d take a sentence on assault with intent to do bodily harm to protect my kid. Whatever it took!!!!

Teachers cannot discipline students, and are downright afraid of them in some cases. The days of my dad can beat up your dad are over because the dad would be in jail.

Ummm…there’s suspension, expulsion, and referral to law enforcement and the court system. My nephew tried to pass off some tylenol or something at school awhile back and was arrested AT SCHOOL, sent to court, and ordered to attend a high school specifically for troublemakers. It’s not like the teachers can not do anything. Most of them are simply too lazy to react.

Teachers cannot discipline students, and are downright afraid of them in some cases. The days of my dad can beat up your dad are over because the dad would be in jail.

Ummm…there’s suspension, expulsion, and referral to law enforcement and the court system. My nephew tried to pass off some tylenol or something at school awhile back and was arrested AT SCHOOL, sent to court, and ordered to attend a high school specifically for troublemakers. It’s not like the teachers can not do anything. Most of them are simply too lazy to react.

Not to be mean, but so what? I’d take a sentence on simple assault to protect my kid. I’d take a sentence on assault with intent to do bodily harm to protect my kid. Whatever it took!!!!

I would die for my children if need be, don’t misunderstand me. Sadly, they would be better off with me at home than in jail.

The differences between the Beaver Cleaver years, heck even 20 years ago… My friends have really bad luck,or really disrespectful kids. One spanked his daughter for stealing from school. School turned him in for child abuse.He did shock time.

When I was in school, a classmate came in bawling and wouldn’t sit down. Turns out her mother had beaten her with a brush and she couldn’t sit down. They gave her a stool and moved on.

This was in the news about a year ago- A kid took his dads debit card and credit cards- cleaned out accounts and got cash advances. Dad took a belt to the kid…dad got jail for assault.You are not allowed to touch your child with anything but an open hand.

I’m not afraid to discipline my children, because my children have been taught enough respect that they know better. Some kids you just can’t get through to,though. You try to really get through to them and you are the one in trouble.

Political Correctness has killed our abilities to do so much, when if common sense had prevailed in the beginning, we wouldn’t have some of these problems.

If this kid had another friend or older cousin or brother take care of the bully, he would’ve been the one facing trouble.

Political Correctness has killed our abilities to do so much, when if common sense had prevailed in the beginning, we wouldn’t have some of these problems.

Consider, if you will, that in the Beaver Cleaver era… VERY few mothers worked outside the home. It was considered that a woman’s place was at home keeping house and bringing up the children. Mom was home when you left for school and home when you got off the bus. There was no such thing as video games and people had family nights and played cards with the neighbors while the kids played monopoly in the other room. Gangs were unheard of and kids weren’t left to fend for themselves because mom and Dad were both at work, or because single mom was out at the bar looking for the flavor of the week.

THIS is why I stay home. My kids are more important than any damn paycheck!

Wow. Dakota looks almost exactly my bestfriends 13 yr old son… I had to do a double take! It’s terrible that this boy lost his life because the school wouldn’t step in and do their job. It’s rediculous how little schools do when it comes to the issue of bullying.

When my son started kindergaten last school year, he was being bullied by some older kids on his bus. It was terrible for him. He has ADD, and between that and the bullying, it was having a terrible effect on his school preformance… he was failing kindergarten.

Many times I spoke to the driver about it, but she was rude and basically said that it was out of her hands! WTF? I also spoke to the principle. Instead of them punishing and dealing with the offending children, they had my son switch buses – to a bus for troubled kids that cause too much havoc on the regular bus. I was pissed about it, and so was my son. But, we did it anyway as it seemed to be the only option we had.

Near the end of the school year we moved to a different school district. Things got so much better for him after that. But, because of what happened at the other school, he still ended up having to repeat Kindergarten this year. But, he’s doing very well now. Without the bullies messing with him, he’s able to shine & show his true pontential. He’s had no problems at the new school and is a great student.

I can’t help but feel that if the old school had done more to protect my son that things would have been different for him, and he probably would not be repeating kindergarten. What he went through there was traumatic for him. He still talks about it and it still upsets him. Schools really need to do more to counteract bullying. Kids have always had the ability to be cruel to other kids, but nowadays it’s even worse. The schools tend to sit back and do little or nothing until parents are forced to step in or a child is serevely injured – or worse. It’s bullshit. Being bullied can do alot of damage to a child, emotionally, physically & acedemically.

Sorry for such a long comment… this is just something that really gets under my skin!

Tylenol, and nail clippers, and the kid who was suspended for hugging her friend, the 6 year old who drew a gun-of course they can do things about that. Someone in physical danger… nah.

I beg to differ. They can call the police if a student is repeatedly harming or threatening to cause harm to another student.

Political Correctness has killed our abilities to do so much, when if common sense had prevailed in the beginning, we wouldn’t have some of these problems.

If this kid had another friend or older cousin or brother take care of the bully, he would’ve been the one facing trouble.

In deed, some issues that need to be addressed and changed legally. Parents are expected to be responsible for their kids’ actions – how can they be held accountable if they are not allowed to instruct and correct, when necessary, the actions of their children?

It just doens’t matter to me about the “in trouble” thing. I’m gonna do what I believe is best for my child, whether it be tear his ass up for doing wrong or go to someone else’s ass to keep him safe.

If I get in trouble for keeping my kid safe, then so be it. It would be worth it. A comment was made that your kids would be better off with you at home than in jail – this is true. However, we are not talking 20 years and missing your child grow up. I have hardly ever heard of a sentence greater than 30 days for simple assault and that was after repeated fights. Mostly probation and give ‘em a little money and its over – a small price to pay for your kid to be safe.

Hell, we can’t keep murders and rapists in jail long enough – I don’t think the sentence for whipping someone’s ass over your child would be too much. And certainly not too much to endure to know that your kid was safe.

And just think, what an example we would be setting to our own kids for their future adulthood – you know, protect your kids and teach them right from wrong. I just can’t see not doing anything because someone may smack your hands a little bit. I believe the word is apathy. I will not be apathetic in either direction – correcting my son’s actions (while I can, before he could actually go to the pen) or dealing decisively with someone else to keep my son safe.

Maybe I’m too hard headed for my own good………….

It’s not like the teachers can not do anything. Most of them are simply too lazy to react.

Whoa…Ashdavus! Don’t paint all teachers with the same brush. Quite often OUR hands are tied because those ABOVE us do not always make the right decisions. As a Junior teacher, I deal with bullying EVERY DAY… I attack it head on, have zero tolerance, I do all I can in terms of contacting parents, principals, etc.

You know where a HUGE part of the problem lies? THE PARENTS. (And yes, I am a mom) I can talk & report til I’m blue in the face, but there are SO many parents out there that will defend their kid, no matter WHAT they’ve done.

How about the bullying TEACHERS endure? Name me another job where someone a third of your age can swear at you, call you names… and very little is done? Would you keep that job? I was called FAT ASS when I was 8 months pregnant. I was tending to a young child’s bloody nose on the playground & had a Gr. 8 know-it-all kid tell me I was “doing it wrong” & was preventing me from treating the injured child (I have First Aid/Cpr training)…I told the Gr. 8 to back off. Guess what? Mommy called the principal, the school superintendent & the GOVERNMENT to report me.

If people who breed would raise their kids with respect, empathy, understanding, morals…this shit would cease to exist!

(crap…dragged that old soapbox out again)

My heart breaks for the deceased kid’s family & I hope they sue him and the little assholes that taped the fight on their cellphone. Every kid that watched that fight & LEFT HIM DYING deserves punishment. No such thing as an “innocent bystander” in this case!

THIS is why I stay home. My kids are more important than any damn paycheck!

Well I’m glad you can Ashadavus, not everyone has that luxury.

I don’t think that just because I am a mother that works outside the home, that my child deserves any less protection that someone whose mother can be at home. If that were the case, look at all the jobless welfare mothers that sit home all day and still have delinquent children.

It is a matter of responsible parenting. Teaching your children right from wrong and ALLOWING them to suffer the consequences when they do wrong. Not running to rescue them every time they get into trouble. If they don’t feel the full consequence of their actions, eventually the trouble they get into will escalate until they DO feel the consequence. By then its too late. They may end up being tried for murder like this dumb kid.

There have been street gangs in the United States since the 1820′s. It wasn’t until street fights turned into shoot outs that it started getting national media.

It is MY personal opinion, that THIS particular school district in question, did not do enough in this case.

If he was making life miserable for someone, then he should have been suspended or expelled.

PFO or Patent Foramen Ovale is just a hole in the heart in the septum or the divider, so to speak in our heart, one side is oxygenated blood fresh from circulating through our lungs, the other is unoxygenated blood making it’s way back from traveling through our bodies. This hole normally closes at birth, but if it doesn’t there are many things that can cause troubles. I’ve enclosed the below information:

“If the atrial septum does not close properly, it is called a patent foramen ovale. This type of defect generally works like a flap valve, only opening during certain conditions when there is more pressure inside the chest. This increased pressure occurs when people strain while having a bowel movement, cough, or sneeze.

If the pressure is great enough, blood may travel from the right atrium to the left atrium. If there is a clot or particles in the blood traveling in the right side of the heart, it can cross the PFO, enter the left atrium, and travel out of the heart and to the brain (causing a stroke) or into a coronary artery (causing a heart attack).”

So, being severely punched in the chest and back, if this child had PFO, could yes, have caused his death.

PFO or Patent Foramen Ovale is just a hole in the heart in the septum or the divider, so to speak in our heart, one side is oxygenated blood fresh from circulating through our lungs, the other is unoxygenated blood making it’s way back from traveling through our bodies. This hole normally closes at birth, but if it doesn’t there are many things that can cause troubles. I’ve enclosed the below information:

“If the atrial septum does not close properly, it is called a patent foramen ovale. This type of defect generally works like a flap valve, only opening during certain conditions when there is more pressure inside the chest. This increased pressure occurs when people strain while having a bowel movement, cough, or sneeze.

If the pressure is great enough, blood may travel from the right atrium to the left atrium. If there is a clot or particles in the blood traveling in the right side of the heart, it can cross the PFO, enter the left atrium, and travel out of the heart and to the brain (causing a stroke) or into a coronary artery (causing a heart attack).”

So, being severely punched in the chest and back, if this child had PFO, could yes, have caused his death.

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter/images/guide/disease/congenital/nml_septum.jpg

Image of the heart, showing the septum. Hope this link works.

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter/images/guide/disease/congenital/nml_septum.jpg

Image of the heart, showing the septum. Hope this link works.

Well I’m glad you can Ashadavus, not everyone has that luxury.

It’s a sacrifice more than a luxury. We do without alot and barely get by. After we move, it may be necessary for me to work part time. We have been fortunate enough to be living in small communities where things are much cheaper, but things are changing and the dollar doesn’t go very far anymore.

Well I’m glad you can Ashadavus, not everyone has that luxury.

It’s a sacrifice more than a luxury. We do without alot and barely get by. After we move, it may be necessary for me to work part time. We have been fortunate enough to be living in small communities where things are much cheaper, but things are changing and the dollar doesn’t go very far anymore.

Keyword here is LEGAL. No joke. I would have no problem stepping over that line to protect my child.

Right on!

It is a matter of responsible parenting. Teaching your children right from wrong and ALLOWING them to suffer the consequences when they do wrong. Not running to rescue them every time they get into trouble. If they don’t feel the full consequence of their actions, eventually the trouble they get into will escalate until they DO feel the consequence. By then its too late. They may end up being tried for murder like this dumb kid.

I agree holding a child responsible for the actions is so important!

I was harassed by 4 boys in 4th grade. On our way home they would pull down my pants (underwear and all). I would leave before them or wait til they left if I could and they would wait for me behind bushes. I was really shy and they would call me gianimal, gianimal can anything stop gianimal (assholes, based after the toy, the animal and commercial in the 80′s), hold me down and put their hands up my shirt. I started not wanting to go to school and would say I was sick. I eventually told my mom she went to the school and talked to the parents. It stopped for a while and then started again. My parents were divorced but when my dad came to visit he handled it his way. He invited 2 of them (brothers) to our house and put them in our cedar chest and sat on top. He told them if they touched me again he would kill them. They both peed their pants in there, and no one bothered me again.

I also had a problem in high school and dad came through again, I was harassed by a group of girls freshman year. he told me to pick up a chair and scream bring it on mother fuckers (his view the girls would think I was a crazy white girl). I did it worked and I got suspended.

If someone picks on my boys and it gets out of hand I will intervene!

Keyword here is LEGAL. No joke. I would have no problem stepping over that line to protect my child.

Right on!

It is a matter of responsible parenting. Teaching your children right from wrong and ALLOWING them to suffer the consequences when they do wrong. Not running to rescue them every time they get into trouble. If they don’t feel the full consequence of their actions, eventually the trouble they get into will escalate until they DO feel the consequence. By then its too late. They may end up being tried for murder like this dumb kid.

I agree holding a child responsible for the actions is so important!

I was harassed by 4 boys in 4th grade. On our way home they would pull down my pants (underwear and all). I would leave before them or wait til they left if I could and they would wait for me behind bushes. I was really shy and they would call me gianimal, gianimal can anything stop gianimal (assholes, based after the toy, the animal and commercial in the 80′s), hold me down and put their hands up my shirt. I started not wanting to go to school and would say I was sick. I eventually told my mom she went to the school and talked to the parents. It stopped for a while and then started again. My parents were divorced but when my dad came to visit he handled it his way. He invited 2 of them (brothers) to our house and put them in our cedar chest and sat on top. He told them if they touched me again he would kill them. They both peed their pants in there, and no one bothered me again.

I also had a problem in high school and dad came through again, I was harassed by a group of girls freshman year. he told me to pick up a chair and scream bring it on mother fuckers (his view the girls would think I was a crazy white girl). I did it worked and I got suspended.

If someone picks on my boys and it gets out of hand I will intervene!

I also had a problem in high school and dad came through again, I was harassed by a group of girls freshman year. he told me to pick up a chair and scream bring it on mother fuckers (his view the girls would think I was a crazy white girl). I did it worked and I got suspended.

LMAO…Too funny!! When my son was in 1st grade, some kid was calling him names. I told him to point at the kid, look disgusted, and yell “Oh my GOD…your epidermis is showing!” He did as I instructed and got a huge laugh out of it…as did the playground teacher when the brat went to tattle.

It’s a sacrifice more than a luxury. We do without alot and barely get by. After we move, it may be necessary for me to work part time. We have been fortunate enough to be living in small communities where things are much cheaper, but things are changing and the dollar doesn’t go very far anymore.

I agree, my husband and I are probably at poverty level. lol After I had my daughter, I made the choice to go part-time at my job. I worked at the hospital at the time, I made decent money, but I was recently divorced, my daughter’s dad wouldn’t pay child support, and let me tell you it was fucking hard. I was poor then. Ramen noodles a lot, but I got to spend more time with my daughter. It was definitely hard, I did with out a lot of shit, to make more time for her. When I remarried I was lucky enough that my husband made enough money where I didn’t have to work at all. Still we were not living high on the hog. Lots of things have changed in the last couple years, I’m now on disability and my husband has taken a different painting job, which pays less money. So…..but I guess my point here is, I can understand those that have to work, I was lucky that I could go part-time with my first child, but damn poor at the same time.
I’m not knocking anyone who wants “nicer” or “better” things. I myself cut my own damn hair, never have had a manicure or pedicure, I drive a used car, shop at yard sales, goodwill and hit all the major store clearance sales (Imma hippie and I live cheap ). If my husband would return to his old job, sure we’d have a lot more money, but then he’d be away from the kids, and it just isn’t worth it anymore.

It’s a sacrifice more than a luxury. We do without alot and barely get by. After we move, it may be necessary for me to work part time. We have been fortunate enough to be living in small communities where things are much cheaper, but things are changing and the dollar doesn’t go very far anymore.

I agree, my husband and I are probably at poverty level. lol After I had my daughter, I made the choice to go part-time at my job. I worked at the hospital at the time, I made decent money, but I was recently divorced, my daughter’s dad wouldn’t pay child support, and let me tell you it was fucking hard. I was poor then. Ramen noodles a lot, but I got to spend more time with my daughter. It was definitely hard, I did with out a lot of shit, to make more time for her. When I remarried I was lucky enough that my husband made enough money where I didn’t have to work at all. Still we were not living high on the hog. Lots of things have changed in the last couple years, I’m now on disability and my husband has taken a different painting job, which pays less money. So…..but I guess my point here is, I can understand those that have to work, I was lucky that I could go part-time with my first child, but damn poor at the same time.
I’m not knocking anyone who wants “nicer” or “better” things. I myself cut my own damn hair, never have had a manicure or pedicure, I drive a used car, shop at yard sales, goodwill and hit all the major store clearance sales (Imma hippie and I live cheap ). If my husband would return to his old job, sure we’d have a lot more money, but then he’d be away from the kids, and it just isn’t worth it anymore.

It is MY personal opinion, that THIS particular school district in question, did not do enough in this case.

If he was making life miserable for someone, then he should have been suspended or expelled.

I thought it had basically been proven that the bully had access to the kid outside of school. Yes, the school is responsible during school hours – did this not happen before/after school? Was it even the school playground or another playground? Maybe I misread, again.

Yes, the school should have done more after two years of complaints. But, like LL44 stated lots of times their hands are tied. Ultimately, I hold the bully’s parents resposible. Surely, in two years time, they had been notified, repeatedly. Why didn’t they stop their kid. I know we are talking 16 year olds – but it started at 14, if it was going on for 2 years.

I wonder if Howard’s dad wasn’t a bully himself and just thought it was okay? I have thought that from the start. I bet the bully’s dad wishes he had stopped it, now that junior may not be coming home for a very long time, now.

I would be so mad at my kid for intentionally being mean to another person without cause, just to be mean. I would tear his ass up, remove all privileges, everything. He would not be allowed to just make someone else’s life hell. How could the Howard’s not be embarrassed by their son’s behavior and not done anything about it? I don’t mean embarrassed now, but before the tragedy, unless being a bully was acceptable at his home.

If someone picks on my boys and it gets out of hand I will intervene!

My kids changed schools this year from one private school to another. His teacher last year was the last straw. Kids would make fun of him and she would not step up and say HEY-this isn’t how we act.

In her own way, I feel she picked on him, as well.

The principal did nothing all year, and I complained all year. She sent his science project home and said it wasn’t good enough. We turned it back in exactly the same way. She gave it an F. The judges gave him a blue ribbon and sent it to the high school for the big fair. I pointed this out to the principal and it was changed to a C.

I finally pulled him out of school with 2 weeks to go.

The running thread here is that the kids who are taught to respect and be kind toward others seem to be the ones getting picked on ….

I dunno Pooh, I guess if the school tells the parents and the parents don’t respond, does it go back to the school?

Do school’s still have the “in loco parentis” thing going on? Where they can act on behalf of the student.

I dunno Pooh, I guess if the school tells the parents and the parents don’t respond, does it go back to the school?

Do school’s still have the “in loco parentis” thing going on? Where they can act on behalf of the student.

Yes, the school should have done more after two years of complaints. But, like LL44 stated lots of times their hands are tied. Ultimately, I hold the bully’s parents resposible. Surely, in two years time, they had been notified, repeatedly. Why didn’t they stop their kid. I know we are talking 16 year olds – but it started at 14, if it was going on for 2 years.

Yes, the school is accountable for whatever happens during school hours and/or at school events…including on the bus. Whatever happens after the kids get off or before they get on the bus is parent responsibility. This type of behavior can’t be stopped if one party won’t react to the situation. In two years time, I HIGHLY doubt that this was the first time this kid chose to pick on his victim away from school. I have to wonder if they ever contacted LE. I only had to call the police ONCE and then I never saw the creep who was picking on my kids again.

The running thread here is that the kids who are taught to respect and be kind toward others seem to be the ones getting picked on ….

That is exactly the thing! Yesterday I ripped my 13 year old a new one for saying that when he could drive he was going to run through huge puddles in his car and get people wet. I doubt the parents of some of these bullies would have done that. They probably would have laughed and offered to go along for the ride.

I worked as a high school teacher in a pretty rough neighbourhood and when fights etc happened off school property, students were still suspended or expelled for it because they couldn’t be in the same building as the victim. The school should have implemented their district’s safe school act/anti-bullying. I’ve seen the police called in to, if only just to scare the bullies off.

The principal did nothing all year, and I complained all year. She sent his science project home and said it wasn’t good enough. We turned it back in exactly the same way. She gave it an F. The judges gave him a blue ribbon and sent it to the high school for the big fair. I pointed this out to the principal and it was changed to a C.

My son’s math teacher ripped up his paper because he had 2 answers written in pen. He told me she also ripped up some girl’s homework for another class. He said everyone hates her and some of the boys call her nasty names.

My son’s math teacher ripped up his paper because he had 2 answers written in pen. He told me she also ripped up some girl’s homework for another class. He said everyone hates her and some of the boys call her nasty names.

If she ripped up my paper I’d call her a nasty name,too. What a rag.

My son’s math teacher ripped up his paper because he had 2 answers written in pen. He told me she also ripped up some girl’s homework for another class. He said everyone hates her and some of the boys call her nasty names.

If she ripped up my paper I’d call her a nasty name,too. What a rag.

I am from the opposite end of the spectrum. I was a bully. Not quite to the extent of these stories that make the news, but who knows…I could have easily ended up being this asshole. Also like you hear about, it usually only involved one particular person. In fact, in my lifetime, two people.

I have never been bullied, but it doesn’t mean that I cannot relate to it, especially partaking gin it and now having children of my own.

We can go into all the psychological reasons why someone bullies, but I am here to tell you that in my case, there really wasn’t a reason. I had a personal beef with the two people, and I was an ass about it. I am sure I made their small slice of life that overlapped with mine, extremely aggravating. One I became friends with later in life, the other I have no clue about as we went to different schools later on.

This time frame is also around these kids as well. 6th grade through 9th. I never was an instigator after I got into High School. Too many women to get with to bother with that kind of crap, I guess.

Anyway, I told my kids how to handle a bully in a way that I knew would have stopped me in my tracks. I told them to first notify me. Then I would notify the school (or the parents if it was a neighborhood issue), if it still persisted…I told them to walk up to this individual and punch them square in the nose as hard as they could. It sucks it has to be that way, but it works. Even if my kid got his ass whooped in return, it still would have worked.

Like I was at that time, a lot of kids who bully feed off of a perceived sign of weakness. From my experience, they take the path of least resistance.

I am from the opposite end of the spectrum. I was a bully. Not quite to the extent of these stories that make the news, but who knows…I could have easily ended up being this asshole. Also like you hear about, it usually only involved one particular person. In fact, in my lifetime, two people.

I have never been bullied, but it doesn’t mean that I cannot relate to it, especially partaking gin it and now having children of my own.

We can go into all the psychological reasons why someone bullies, but I am here to tell you that in my case, there really wasn’t a reason. I had a personal beef with the two people, and I was an ass about it. I am sure I made their small slice of life that overlapped with mine, extremely aggravating. One I became friends with later in life, the other I have no clue about as we went to different schools later on.

This time frame is also around these kids as well. 6th grade through 9th. I never was an instigator after I got into High School. Too many women to get with to bother with that kind of crap, I guess.

Anyway, I told my kids how to handle a bully in a way that I knew would have stopped me in my tracks. I told them to first notify me. Then I would notify the school (or the parents if it was a neighborhood issue), if it still persisted…I told them to walk up to this individual and punch them square in the nose as hard as they could. It sucks it has to be that way, but it works. Even if my kid got his ass whooped in return, it still would have worked.

Like I was at that time, a lot of kids who bully feed off of a perceived sign of weakness. From my experience, they take the path of least resistance.

I would be so mad at my kid for intentionally being mean to another person without cause, just to be mean. I would tear his ass up, remove all privileges, everything. He would not be allowed to just make someone else’s life hell.

Right, I’d put my foot up my boys ass if he were treating someone that way.

LMAO…Too funny!! When my son was in 1st grade, some kid was calling him names. I told him to point at the kid, look disgusted, and yell “Oh my GOD…your epidermis is showing!” He did as I instructed and got a huge laugh out of it…as did the playground teacher when the brat went to tattle.

That’s a good one!

I dunno Pooh, I guess if the school tells the parents and the parents don’t respond, does it go back to the school?

Very good question. I would love to know the answer to that one.

Do school’s still have the “in loco parentis” thing going on? Where they can act on behalf of the student.

I think they do, but in my experience, they only use it if it serves them personally – (if a trouble maker is intimidating the teacher, then they are “acting in the best interest of the child”). I personally, have never seen it invoked, to truly save a child or to even make an attempt to better the child’s home life.

I dunno Pooh, I guess if the school tells the parents and the parents don’t respond, does it go back to the school?

Very good question. I would love to know the answer to that one.

Do school’s still have the “in loco parentis” thing going on? Where they can act on behalf of the student.

I think they do, but in my experience, they only use it if it serves them personally – (if a trouble maker is intimidating the teacher, then they are “acting in the best interest of the child”). I personally, have never seen it invoked, to truly save a child or to even make an attempt to better the child’s home life.

………..Parents are expected to be responsible for their kids’ actions – how can they be held accountable if they are not allowed to instruct and correct, when necessary, the actions of their children?

They are allowed to instruct and correct when necassary….just not by brutal force or capital punishment

It just doens’t matter to me about the “in trouble” thing. I’m gonna do what I believe is best for my child, whether it be tear his ass up for doing wrong or go to someone else’s ass to keep him safe.

I second that!!!!!

Hell, we can’t keep murders and rapists in jail long enough………

Had they recieved a good butt bustin’ as a kid, perhaps they wouldn’t be in jail as a rapist/murderer but instead a productive member of this website.:)

You know where a HUGE part of the problem lies? THE PARENTS. (And yes, I am a mom) I can talk & report til I’m blue in the face, but there are SO many parents out there that will defend their kid, no matter WHAT they’ve done.

I totally agree. I have always told my kids that if they are in the right, I’ll defend them to the death, BUT…..if they are in the wrong, may God have mercy on their souls. (Not that I would literally…you know) I defended my oldest son over an ordeal at school where he claimed he was wrongfully punished for defending himself. What started out as a sympathy session from mom ended in a heated conversation with the principal, leading eventually to the truth that placed my son as the instigator, not the defendee. Needless to say, the punishment he recieved from me paled in comparison to what his coach had him do. Not only did he start the altercation but he lied to me. To this day he has never pulled a stunt like that again.

if it still persisted…I told them to walk up to this individual and punch them square in the nose as hard as they could.

That approach worked for my brother in the 70′s too. He also slapped a girl that was calling him nasty names and when she told him that a gentleman would never hit a lady he replied “Yes, but you’re no lady.”

if it still persisted…I told them to walk up to this individual and punch them square in the nose as hard as they could.

That approach worked for my brother in the 70′s too. He also slapped a girl that was calling him nasty names and when she told him that a gentleman would never hit a lady he replied “Yes, but you’re no lady.”

…………….Ramen noodles a lot…………

We aren’t poor, but we aren’t “filthy rich” either. We live paycheck to paycheck like most of the working class, but I have to tell ya, poor, well off or stinking ass rich, I’d still buy Ramen Noodles!!!!! I love those. Quick, easy, quite tasty, and CHEAP.:)

…………….Ramen noodles a lot…………

We aren’t poor, but we aren’t “filthy rich” either. We live paycheck to paycheck like most of the working class, but I have to tell ya, poor, well off or stinking ass rich, I’d still buy Ramen Noodles!!!!! I love those. Quick, easy, quite tasty, and CHEAP.:)

Like I was at that time, a lot of kids who bully feed off of a perceived sign of weakness. From my experience, they take the path of least resistance.

Very good point.

Anyway, I told my kids how to handle a bully in a way that I knew would have stopped me in my tracks. I told them to first notify me. Then I would notify the school (or the parents if it was a neighborhood issue), if it still persisted…I told them to walk up to this individual and punch them square in the nose as hard as they could. It sucks it has to be that way, but it works. Even if my kid got his ass whooped in return, it still would have worked.

Thank you for saying you were a bully and WHAT would have stopped you. Maybe others will acknowledge, that a previous bully and a previous victim have cited the same cure for the bully problem. When both sides agree on what would stop them, it just seems to give it more validity.

The cure for the common bully – just stand up to them – win, lose or draw. You have to take up for yourself – no one else will. And furthermore, if you aren’t willing to fight for yourself (and your kids), why should you expect someone else to do it for you?

If you’re gonna get your ass kicked either way, why not at least get one or two good shots in. Throw the first punch, if you have to, but go down fighting. Most bullies find you aren’t worth the effort.

Like I was at that time, a lot of kids who bully feed off of a perceived sign of weakness. From my experience, they take the path of least resistance.

Very good point.

Anyway, I told my kids how to handle a bully in a way that I knew would have stopped me in my tracks. I told them to first notify me. Then I would notify the school (or the parents if it was a neighborhood issue), if it still persisted…I told them to walk up to this individual and punch them square in the nose as hard as they could. It sucks it has to be that way, but it works. Even if my kid got his ass whooped in return, it still would have worked.

Thank you for saying you were a bully and WHAT would have stopped you. Maybe others will acknowledge, that a previous bully and a previous victim have cited the same cure for the bully problem. When both sides agree on what would stop them, it just seems to give it more validity.

The cure for the common bully – just stand up to them – win, lose or draw. You have to take up for yourself – no one else will. And furthermore, if you aren’t willing to fight for yourself (and your kids), why should you expect someone else to do it for you?

If you’re gonna get your ass kicked either way, why not at least get one or two good shots in. Throw the first punch, if you have to, but go down fighting. Most bullies find you aren’t worth the effort.

That approach worked for my brother in the 70’s too. He also slapped a girl that was calling him nasty names and when she told him that a gentleman would never hit a lady he replied “Yes, but you’re no lady.”

You have talked about 20 years ago and the 70′s, I’m not being mean, but what is your point to that? Are you saying that he was just standing up to a bully, when he slapped the girl for name calling? Are you saying he was an asshat for slapping the girl? Or what? I don’t get the point relevant to this thread.

Bullying and name calling between teen boys and girls are different things. All teens have their moments.

Bullies feed on fear and intimidation and keep on and on and on, until someone stands up to them – whether it was in the 70′s, the 90′s or present 2008.

The one thing, a previous bully stated that would have been “what would have stopped him dead in his tracks” – you associate with your 70′s comment and slapping a girl, because she wasn’t a lady. I just don’t get it.

If you are so against bullies, why don’t you want to acknowledge what stops them? I can understand, maybe when I, the previous victim, stated an answer, but when a past bully says the exact same thing would have stopped him – then why don’t you want to accept THAT is the answer to bullies? You almost seem not to want the bully to face any type of stoppage, other than have someone else handle it for you. Correct me where I’m wrong or explain what you mean, cause I missed it.

Wow, ThePooh5. I think the previous poster was just saying that their brother did the same thing I said, and it worked for him.

Yes, Morbid. However, I see my comment was a little confusing. My brother had 2 bullies. One, a guy, who he punched (actually knocked out the kid’s tooth). The other a girl. Since he would never actually have punched a girl, he chose to slap her as hard as he could instead.

Wow, ThePooh5. I think the previous poster was just saying that their brother did the same thing I said, and it worked for him.

I totally misread, misunderstood, all together. Apologies for my stupidness. And, a direct apology to ASHDAVUS – sorry.

Wow, ThePooh5. I think the previous poster was just saying that their brother did the same thing I said, and it worked for him.

I totally misread, misunderstood, all together. Apologies for my stupidness. And, a direct apology to ASHDAVUS – sorry.

I totally misread, misunderstood, all together. Apologies for my stupidness. And, a direct apology to ASHDAVUS – sorry.

Tis ok…my comment did seem very confusing when I read it again.

You can’t slap, hit or punch a bully in the Texas Spring School District. You will get filed on by the police, and victim will end up in alternative school, where there are more bullies. You can’t even defend yourself. If you hit back, you still end up in alternative school. There is no winning for losing and no sympathy for the victims if they complain. They are the ones that are moved to a new class while the bully still lords over his class. Bah…

You can’t slap, hit or punch a bully in the Texas Spring School District. You will get filed on by the police, and victim will end up in alternative school, where there are more bullies. You can’t even defend yourself. If you hit back, you still end up in alternative school. There is no winning for losing and no sympathy for the victims if they complain. They are the ones that are moved to a new class while the bully still lords over his class. Bah…

You can’t slap, hit or punch a bully in the Texas Spring School District. You will get filed on by the police, and victim will end up in alternative school, where there are more bullies. You can’t even defend yourself. If you hit back, you still end up in alternative school. There is no winning for losing and no sympathy for the victims if they complain. They are the ones that are moved to a new class while the bully still lords over his class. Bah…

This is in Texas? Wow!!!

If their rules are so strict, how does the bully keep from going to an alternative school?

DeRemus’ family issued the following statement:

My family and I are in so much pain that just cant be described by the tragic and early loss of our Dakota. Our Dakota was only 16 years old.
He was the most loving and caring son a mother could ever imagine. This holds true as a brother, a grandson, nephew, and as a friend. As a single parent that has struggled, Dakota was my inspiration. He gave me hope and together we had envisioned a future for him.
Our Dakota had so much to live for and he was looking forward to many of the things that 16 year olds do: going to a dance with a girl; riding bikes with his friends; learning to drive; and going to the movies. He had such ambition to make a difference in this world by going to college and then attending law school.
I feel very blessed that as a family, we had the opportunity to spend our holiday break together with Dakota on vacation and our memories will forever be filled with Koty decorating the tree; being on the beach; and sitting down and laughing with his family during our Christmas Dinner.
However, for me, those memories will forever be shadowed by the dark cloud of my son being beaten to death by those that choose to bully an innocent teenager. Murder is the only way we can describe this incident with the facts that we are aware of. The fact that a group of four bullies joined together and apparently decided to videotape his beating and death, demonstrates to me that they knew that they were going to kill him.
Furthermore, their apparent actions of running away after he fell to the ground without calling for any help further shows not only their character, but their intentions all along. By lessoning the charges, this serves as no warning to any future person that decides to bully another.
My family and I are at a loss of words for the repeated warnings to the parents and The Gardner-Edgerton High School. They had been placed on notice many times by Dakota and myself. We would kindly as that the superintendent of the Gardner School District investigate this situation to ensure that no other child or family goes through what we are experiencing.

I continue to see everyone commenting on Dakotas heart condition and I am concerned that individuals are using this for their own personal agendas such as keeping their client out of jail. Instead, what really should be focused on is the manner in which these cowards treated my son, especially if they did indeed videotape his beating and/or his death.
I would also like to thank friends, family, neighbors and the community for the out-pouring of love and support. It has meant so much to us. We are also very grateful for all of the efforts of the Gardner Police Department and Johnson County Sherriffs Office for the handling of Dakotas murder investigation in such a professional and compassionate manner. We hope that immediate charges will be filed against all individuals involved in this case.

If their rules are so strict, how does the bully keep from going to an alternative school?

Yes, this is in Texas. The bully goes if he hits anyone, that is if there are witnesses that are willing to tell the truth, which usually doesn’t happen. Their friends lie for them. But for verbal abuse, it is always open season.

Wow that is such a sad statement from his family. I hope they can find some justice.

Yes, this is in Texas. The bully goes if he hits anyone, that is if there are witnesses that are willing to tell the truth, which usually doesn’t happen. Their friends lie for them. But for verbal abuse, it is always open season.

Are you telling me that someone has to actually witness the bully hit the other kid? Always rules to protect the offenders instead of the victims.

Wow that is such a sad statement from his family. I hope they can find some justice.

Yes, this is in Texas. The bully goes if he hits anyone, that is if there are witnesses that are willing to tell the truth, which usually doesn’t happen. Their friends lie for them. But for verbal abuse, it is always open season.

Are you telling me that someone has to actually witness the bully hit the other kid? Always rules to protect the offenders instead of the victims.

When I was 9, I was being harassed by the Class Bully.

One day, after school , I went to the park to catch minnows…after spending an hour with a bucket full of minnows, the Class Bully rode up on his bike and started to harass me. He grabbed my bucket and wouldn’t let go. I swung the lake water full of minnows on him…minnows were flopping all over the parking lot. I ran to the lake to get more water.

When I came back trying to save the lives of the litttle minnows, the Bully laughed about the minnows dying. That’s it…I grabbed my bucket, threw the remaining lake water on him floating with 1/2 dead minnows, and started hitting him with the bucket & screaming at the top of my lungs like a crazy person, as he tried to get on his bike and ride away…he never bothered me ever again.

As a mom of 3–I always tell them “don’t EVER back down if another kid harasses you, no matter if you get in trouble with the school for fighting back…we’ll deal with that later”…

When I was 9, I was being harassed by the Class Bully.

One day, after school , I went to the park to catch minnows…after spending an hour with a bucket full of minnows, the Class Bully rode up on his bike and started to harass me. He grabbed my bucket and wouldn’t let go. I swung the lake water full of minnows on him…minnows were flopping all over the parking lot. I ran to the lake to get more water.

When I came back trying to save the lives of the litttle minnows, the Bully laughed about the minnows dying. That’s it…I grabbed my bucket, threw the remaining lake water on him floating with 1/2 dead minnows, and started hitting him with the bucket & screaming at the top of my lungs like a crazy person, as he tried to get on his bike and ride away…he never bothered me ever again.

As a mom of 3–I always tell them “don’t EVER back down if another kid harasses you, no matter if you get in trouble with the school for fighting back…we’ll deal with that later”…

Iwant to know what the bullying murdering little bastards family is saying? Lawyered up and trying to get their kid off the hook??
Ranting “he would never hurt anyone on purpose” “it was an accident”.
I will say put shoe on other foot and as parents you really fucked this up. It had been going on for 2 years. Damn it, they didn’t even try to get help. Tell your kid to come clean and let him take the responsibility for his actions. Thats how you parent. That 16 year old boy who was ganged up on is no longer walking around.

Wow, the statement from the family was simply heart-wrenching to read. Dakota was a beautiful young man, I am so sorry for this family’s loss.

Wow, the statement from the family was simply heart-wrenching to read. Dakota was a beautiful young man, I am so sorry for this family’s loss.

Yes. Is the victim’s word against the bully. And of course when questioned, nobody saw anything. It is disgusting.

So why does the bully’s word carry more weight? Or do you mean the school won’t act without a witness?

And, if that’ss true, a good piece of info to have if you are the one being bullied – the bully needs a witness, too – just in the event someone gets even with the bully…………………………

When I was 9, I was being harassed by the Class Bully.

Now that you mentioned the minnows…

I was 7 and it was a boy in our apartment complex. I think he was 11. Always chasing me around and threatening to have his snake bite me. One day he cornered me and dropped the dang garter snake on my head. I remember grabbing it and throwing it on the ground as hard as I could and him running away crying that I killed his pet snake.

When I was 9, I was being harassed by the Class Bully.

Now that you mentioned the minnows…

I was 7 and it was a boy in our apartment complex. I think he was 11. Always chasing me around and threatening to have his snake bite me. One day he cornered me and dropped the dang garter snake on my head. I remember grabbing it and throwing it on the ground as hard as I could and him running away crying that I killed his pet snake.

I was 7 and it was a boy in our apartment complex. I think he was 11. Always chasing me around and threatening to have his snake bite me. One day he cornered me and dropped the dang garter snake on my head. I remember grabbing it and throwing it on the ground as hard as I could and him running away crying that I killed his pet snake.

hahahhahahahaha – too bad you didn’t have time to stomp on it, too.

I was 7 and it was a boy in our apartment complex. I think he was 11. Always chasing me around and threatening to have his snake bite me. One day he cornered me and dropped the dang garter snake on my head. I remember grabbing it and throwing it on the ground as hard as I could and him running away crying that I killed his pet snake.

hahahhahahahaha – too bad you didn’t have time to stomp on it, too.

Always chasing me around and threatening to have his snake bite me. One day he cornered me and dropped the dang garter snake on my head. I remember grabbing it and throwing it on the ground as hard as I could and him running away crying that I killed his pet snake.

I think someone had a crush on you. Well, before you killed his pet snake.

Always chasing me around and threatening to have his snake bite me. One day he cornered me and dropped the dang garter snake on my head. I remember grabbing it and throwing it on the ground as hard as I could and him running away crying that I killed his pet snake.

I think someone had a crush on you. Well, before you killed his pet snake.

I think someone had a crush on you. Well, before you killed his pet snake.

damn pre-pubescent boys!

I think someone had a crush on you. Well, before you killed his pet snake.

damn pre-pubescent boys!

Another heartbreaking story. I think I would have liked to have met this young man. Now he’s gone forever and all his plans for life are laid in the dust.

Exactly. They refused to do anything. No witnesses, no crime. They would sometimes offer to remove the victim from the class, but it was never the bully who was kicked out. This was a few years back. I am hoping things are better now.

*These were high school kids.

So why does the bully’s word carry more weight? Or do you mean the school won’t act without a witness?

These were high school kids.

I wonder….. why do the bully’s parents rarely do anything about the problem. Is it because they were bullies at one time, or were they victims?

I wonder….. why do the bully’s parents rarely do anything about the problem. Is it because they were bullies at one time, or were they victims?

The problem is the school knew there was a problem and decided not to act. As a teacher we are suppose to report if our student’s are being bullied and the principal is suppose to call in the parent’s and something be done. Now I haven’t taught in a while cause of the kid’s now a day’s and it seems that teacher’s and staff are afraid to do anything cause of sue happy parent’s.

I even saw where some staff blamed the bullied kid and their parent’s cause their child chose to be a snitch rather then stand up to the bully.

I am almost to the point where I am for kid’s to be home schooled…cause you never know what is going to happen at school…

The problem is the school knew there was a problem and decided not to act. As a teacher we are suppose to report if our student’s are being bullied and the principal is suppose to call in the parent’s and something be done. Now I haven’t taught in a while cause of the kid’s now a day’s and it seems that teacher’s and staff are afraid to do anything cause of sue happy parent’s.

I even saw where some staff blamed the bullied kid and their parent’s cause their child chose to be a snitch rather then stand up to the bully.

I am almost to the point where I am for kid’s to be home schooled…cause you never know what is going to happen at school…

I even saw where some staff blamed the bullied kid and their parent’s cause their child chose to be a snitch rather then stand up to the bully.

That seems to be a widespread problem. My son and I have worn these shoes. Incidentally, the 2 teachers attacking us fit the profile of a serial bully. VERY interesting, huh?

I am almost to the point where I am for kid’s to be home schooled…cause you never know what is going to happen at school…

The worst bully that has picked on my son is a boy who is homeschooled. My son no longer attends boy scouts because of this kid. Proof positive that parents are at least partly to blame for the behavior of a bully.

I have come to find out in my life that most bullys have bullys for parents. O’doul rules! My nephews were being bullied by these asshole kids down the road, my sister tried everything to get them to stop, she and her husband even went to their house to talk to their parents and guess what? The parents were just as bad as the kids, the mom and dad started a fight with them and told them that is was not their fault that their kids were wimps and my nephew are not wimps, they would just get them alone and gang up on them, they never messed with them when they were togther. The big problem was that there were 5 bully boys in this family. One day 3 of them came up to our hill, yes I know we have our own hill and that sounds really back woods, but we really do. My mom, my dad, my sister, my brother and myself all bought land right next to each other. I was out working on my land when they came driving down the road yelling Nick and Lance are pussys they stop in front of my sisters house and kept yelling this over and over again. So I walk over there and tell them to get the fuck off our land and they say “fuck you, you don’t own the road” I told them yes I did own the road and that they needed leave. They told me to fuck off and the two on the passenger side of the car started to get out. I kicked the door shut and started to punch to of them in the face, they started yelling GO GO GO and I was being dragged down the road, because I was half in the car, one of them kicked me in the face and I fell, they kept driving yelling shit as they drove off. The word was that they were going to get their brothers and come back up, but it never happened I guess because there were 5 guys on our hill and they could not gang up on us. After that they did not mess with my nephews and the word got around that Nick and Lance’s Uncle was crazy, I thought that was funny, because I am really tame and never start anything. I was just pissed because they came on my land and started shit.
I guess these kids were beating up everybody at school and the school could not do much about it because they would only beat them up off of school grounds and their parents did not care how many times the school called them. The kids were always in trouble with the police but never enough to get them put away. DCFS was called on these people a bunch of times and one day they were just gone. They packed up and left, guess they needed to get out of McDonald county before they got tarred and feathered but who knows.

I even saw where some staff blamed the bullied kid and their parent’s cause their child chose to be a snitch rather then stand up to the bully.

Holy crap! I cant believe that Keba. That is unreal

I even saw where some staff blamed the bullied kid and their parent’s cause their child chose to be a snitch rather then stand up to the bully.

Holy crap! I cant believe that Keba. That is unreal

Nice Warman! Good job lol.

It is my hope that Dustin Howard will be tried as an adult and go to prison. Soon he will know how it is to be bullied as big Bruno makes him his bitch again and again.

It is my hope that Dustin Howard will be tried as an adult and go to prison. Soon he will know how it is to be bullied as big Bruno makes him his bitch again and again.