Elizabeth McMurray Makes Great Decisions
January 16, 2008 by Morbid
TYLER, Texas — Elizabeth Marie McMurray, 21, and Robert Ray Kassube, 46, are accused of placing 9-month-old Joshua Michael McMurray and his 19-month-old brother in a bathtub and then leaving the room on SaturdaySaturday reviews
. The 9-month-old drowned. In addition to manslaughter, McMurray and Kassube were each charged with endangering a child and three counts of manufacture or delivery of a controlled substance, police said. This stemmed from the hundreds of different types of pills that was found in the residence, including Xanax and Oxycodone.
This is just not Kassube’s week. On Thursday, he was involved with a police chase and later tased before being arrested for evading arrest, possession of a controlled substance, driving while intoxicated and causing an accident involving damage to a vehicle. He was released the day before this incident happened. McMurray is in the process of a divorce with her husband, the father of the two children and was living with Kassube. The father of the two children is a soldier serving in Iraq and was returning home.
Ms. McMurray and Kassube were transported to the Smith County Jail with total bonds set for each at $2,300,000 by Smith County 241st District Court Judge Jack Skeen.
WowWow reviews, you women sure like assholes.
3:02 pm on January 16th, 2008
Okay, wait. Dude is probably older than her father, AND he has a record and a drug business and can’t drive, AND he has a mullet?
Anyone wanna take bets on why they left the babies alone in the bathtub? Note to stupid girl: putting the infants in the tub is not a good way to get some alone time with the embodiment of your messed-up daddy issues, dumbass.
Somebody just shoot this lame excuse for a mother right now. i bet the father of her children would like to.
3:07 pm on January 16th, 2008
LOL! I was gonna make a mullet comment Imp! You beat me to it.
Plus she looks 7 feet tall and he’s about 4′10″.
And it isn’t the assholes that get women in trouble, its their penises.
3:16 pm on January 16th, 2008
My thoughts exactly
3:21 pm on January 16th, 2008
And they dress alike. Ugh! They can keep dressing alike for a long time now in their matching prison suits.
4:04 pm on January 16th, 2008
another beautiful baby dead because momma loves drugs and penises!
I am sorry; i would be more sympathetic or try to understand but cheating on your huband and killing his baby while he is defending our country really hits a sore spot for me. Here is this soldier in Iraq (sometimes these guys stay for 12-18 months) and he has to worry about his wife sleeping around and killing his babies!? Oh…..AND selling drugs!
4:52 pm on January 16th, 2008
Disgraceful shameful shocking and appalling.
5:37 pm on January 16th, 2008
Wow! It seems that this family is messed up all the way around! Her Brother was convicted in July of Aggravated sexual assauly of a child and indecency of a child involving sexual contact! HMMMMMMMM I am sure the two McMurray’s had a great upbringing. Ms. McMurray can request an extended stay with her Brother maybe?
http://tylerpaper.com/article/20070707/NEWS08/707070309
10:28 pm on January 16th, 2008
Is she walking on fucking stilts?
11:39 pm on January 16th, 2008
This is so depressing. The poor husband. Imagine getting this news while you’re on duty in Iraq.
9:49 am on January 17th, 2008
This is a really sad story, how can you leave your babys in the bath by themselves? When I am giving my baby girls baths I bring a book and never leave the room. If I need anything I call my wife or one of the other kids to help me out.
I have said before that my wife’s ex left her kids in the bath and went to buy beer at the store, we are all lucky that they did not drowned.
I feel for the father, like going to war is not hard enough, now he has to deal with the death of his son and a drug dealing soon to be ex wife.
9:59 am on January 17th, 2008
Pure SCUM!
10:06 am on January 17th, 2008
Unbelievable. WTF? Dumb ass mother. She loves the drugs and penises more than her babies? WTF is wrong with her? If she wanted god damn alone time, put them babies in a bed room to play. But a fricken bath tub? Come on!
2:59 pm on January 17th, 2008
It’s weird how some women will take any man into their life. But then on the other hand, lots of men get involved with women who are no treat, like this one.
3:06 pm on January 17th, 2008
These fucksticks lived in apt 104 which is a tiny 1 bedroom 1 bathroom. They really couldn’t go that far to get away from the kids and it just doesn’t fly that they checked on them only after they didn’t hear them anymore. Ignorant people shouldn’t have put them in the tub and left them, ever. These people were too busy breeding crack babies to be responible for the ones already on this earth. I do not know them, I am not friends with fucksticks. Unfortunately I live in the same complex but in the back.
3:33 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Yall need to get the facts straight instead of believing everything you hear in the media. First off it is not HER brother that is in prison it is her EX-HUSBAND’s brother(the one that now has the older brother). Also he was never in Iraq and I challenge anyone to find me proof that he was other than thru the media(which is wrong) He is stationed stateside and they were almost divorced. Third she was less than 6 feet from the tub and he was within arms reach of the baby. Anyone who knows the mom knows these kids were her life!!!!! I was with her and the babies daily and have helped her bathe the boys many times. There was less than 5 inches of water ANY time she bathed them. This is nothing more than a terrible tragic accident. Even the Ex-husband is willing to testify that she was a great mother!!!!!! This family has suffered another death in May 2007 when her grandmother died of COPD.
3:38 pm on January 23rd, 2008
So how the hell did the baby drown?
If the baby went under water and she was within arms reach, why didn’t she snatch the baby up out of the water?
Also, why did this “great mother” have her babies in a house with all those drugs?
3:41 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Kathy, it is a know fact that 5 inches of bath water has a tendency to shoot up an infants nose, instantly drowning them. It’s why I don’t take baths at all. Poor, responsible Elizabeth.
4:15 pm on January 23rd, 2008
I am confused was he her ex-husband or were they married? Who had custody of the children? If she was in the bathroom when the baby drowned then why are the reports that they didnt check on the children until they could not hear them anymore?
4:18 pm on January 23rd, 2008
http://www.legacy.com/TylerPaper/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=101613695
OMG!! He was such a beautiful baby!!
4:22 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Goddamn 5 inches of water! Goddamn you!!!
4:23 pm on January 23rd, 2008
http://www.cityoftyler.org/Portals/0/uploads/departments/police/documents/NR-08-01-017.pdf
4:26 pm on January 23rd, 2008
That police report kind of goes against what Concerned Relative was babbling about, huh?
4:31 pm on January 23rd, 2008
that is why i posted it. the police could be wrong, but it sounds like it was something that was told to them by the parent/boyfriend. Also, I cannot stop thinking, why was he still in the bathwater when police arrived? That makes me want to cry. Maybe they watched alot of CSI and wanted to preserve the evidence? But they could have tried CPR or ran outside the apartment and screamed for help from anyone that knew CPR. The image of that little baby in the water face down haunts me.
4:48 pm on January 23rd, 2008
They had enough stuff to be 2″ away from the babies and not notice one was face down in the water.
I know this is a terrible question, but who in the hell buys or sells imitrex? WTH?
AND, the worst, how could bail for “endangering a child” be less than the bail set for “manufacture or delivery of a controlled substance”? Its not as if they were “drug kingpins” in the world of Pablo Escobar. WTH?
Now, there is the answer to all of our questions of “why” the child rapers, murderers, etc. keep on and on and on. It is because you don’t really get into any trouble for hurting kids. They are disposable. The damn courts just proved it, with the bail amounts set. Of course, we all know, popping a few pills is much worse than neglecting your kids to the point that they actually die. We better let the child abusers go so we can make room for the pill poppers in jail. DAMN AND DOUBLE DAMN.
Granted, they were probably selling as many as they were taking, but still, I would feel much better, if their bonds would have been higher on the endangerment charges instead of the controlled substance charges. BULLSHIT!!!
5:14 pm on January 23rd, 2008
I am sorry, I stand corrected by the concerned realtive about it being his sister.Mr. Matthew McMurray’s Sister-in-law is a winner too, I see. I am sure it is her mother that is the concerned realtive. Trust me folks she was equally concerned and CONFUSED about the facts in the Brother-in-law’s aggravated sexual assault on a child that he got ONLY 20 yrs for. I mean come on now he must have been a good guy and we just misunderstood the media. Forget the facts huh? Just like in this case. Anyone that can volunteer at a mentally handicapped camp as a counselor and then sexually assault a 13 yr old can not be all that bad, right? Just like a “Good mother” can have all those drugs and be within reach of her 9 mo old baby and not be able to save him?! I pray Justice prevails in this case.
5:24 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Anyone that can volunteer at a mentally handicapped camp as a counselor and then sexually assault a 13 yr old can not be all that bad, right? Just like a “Good mother†can have all those drugs and be within reach of her 9 mo old baby and not be able to save him?! I pray Justice prevails in this case.
amen, redbeard…. or as my 2.5 y.o. son says…”a-mess”
9:52 pm on January 23rd, 2008
In answer to a few of the comments and questions. First the news never said the baby was in the water when they got there. They said they found an “unresponsive infant”. Yes, CPR was started before the ambulance got there, I havent seen where that was denied. Read up on drownings, it only takes a teaspoon of water to drown. For a baby this age with his medical problems it takes less than a minute for them to die. As far as what the reports say please remember news media adds to things, please read several of the articles and you will understand what I mean. They have said the dad was in Iraq(false) He has never been to iraq even tho he IS military and he was stateside. Their divorce was to be final some time this month and she had custody of the boys as it had been since the day they were born. The father rarely saw them by his choice.
10:16 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Good reason to never leave children unattended in the bathtub.
As far as in Iraq or whatever kind of irrelevant, he is in the military.
The police report speaks for it self as well as the fact that this beautiful child is gone
10:24 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Concerned Relative I’m sorry, but it truly bothers me that the first thing you felt the need to address was the fact that it was not her brother that was in jail. Well I fugured that out on my own. Same last names, hello come in…. Next was to point out that the dad is not in Iraq. What does that have to do with this babies death? I can’t believe you are worrying about setting the record straight on stuff like this with all the other problems your family has at this time! I don’t give a rats ass where the dad was. Mom was in the apartment! I never ever took my eyes off my babies while bathing them. I also was on the floor leaning over the tub the entire time they were in it. There is no excuse in the world to do other wise!
10:43 pm on January 23rd, 2008
“On Saturday, January 12, 2008, around 10:56 a.m., Police, Fire and EMS responded to Abby
Apartments, Apt. 104, located at 4917 Thistle, on an unresponsive infant. It was reported to
police that they placed nine-month old Joshua Michael McMurray and his 19-month-old baby
brother in a bath tub and left them unattended in the water.”
Concerned Relative, this is not from the media this is the news release from the Tyler Police Department. They reported to the police when the police got there that they had left the children unattended in the water. I don’t see where it says that the mom was in the bathroom with the children the whole time. So they must have left the bathroom, and yes it does just take a minute to drown that is why it is important to stay in the bathroom while the babies are bathing. Especially with a toddler in the tub as well. Babies tend to play and pull on each other.
This is so sad, my heart cries out for this poor baby that didn’t have a chance. And yes, Elizabeth could have been a good mother that just stepped out for a minute…….but he is still gone and he was her responsibility. I am sorry for your and her loss and I will pray for your family. The baby no longer has a future and she now only has one son.
10:45 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Great mothers always have a large stash of drugs in the house. *rolls eyes* You’re wasting your breath on that argument. imho
11:39 pm on January 23rd, 2008
ArmyMom
I may not have worded things just right but the first thing I wanted to clear up as noted in the first sentence was not to believe everything you hear. These were just clear examples of why. You are right that Mom was in the apartment and one of the reports even said different on that. No matter what, the facts are that a precious baby is gone and that can never be changed. The pain that this mom is going thru cant be erased and no judge or jury can punish her more than she has already been punished (and mind you she has not been convicted) In one day she lost BOTH boys and never saw Joshua or his brother since riding in the ambulance to the hospital. She didnt even get to attend his funeral. If any mom is honest about it every one of us has turned around to grab a towel or grab another kid that was in the tub. This is no different. She was questioned less than an hour after being told her baby was dead. How many moms can think straight after being told something like that. I can’t say anything about the drugs other than my nephew has more than that(what was in the report) prescribed to him for a back injury. I dont know much about the boyfriend so I cant speak for him at all. The deal about the dad having NOT been in Iraq normally wouldn’t be important except for the fact that there is a soldier from Iraq that was charged with a felony and the 2 cases are getting mingled somehow. The dad dont need this confusion so yes it does pertain to this in a BIG way.
11:55 pm on January 23rd, 2008
Excuse me…… but I am be honest. Not once did I ever turn my back on my babies when they were in the tub. I knew better, I always had everything ready before I even ran the bath. It is called responsible parenting. I am proud to say my daughter was the same way with her babies. You cannot turn your back on a baby in water. EVER
12:16 am on January 24th, 2008
I have to say, I never turned my back on my kid either. In fact, I don’t know how anyone could. And besides, this mother didn’t turn to get a towel or another kid…she wasn’t even in the room.
12:16 am on January 24th, 2008
God forgive me, but I don’t really feel bad for Elizabeth. She was in a relationship with a drug addicted criminal, had drugs in her house, and clearly makes bad decisions.
She is responsible for the death of her child. Period – end of sentence.
You’re right, concerned relative, a precious child is gone, and that cannot be changed. And unfortunately, that’s the way it goes in these stories. The children almost always pay for being born to shitty parents.
12:24 am on January 24th, 2008
Exactly, leaving the room for any reason is unforgivable in my book. At 9 months of age I usually had one hand on my kids the entire time also. You know they are always wanting to lean over and stick their face in the water. You have to stay on top of that stuff.
12:25 am on January 24th, 2008
Amen
9:42 pm on January 27th, 2008
You guys are pathetic. This is supposed to be America where a person is “innocent until proven guilty”. In this case I guess its “guilty until proven innocent”. The family didnt even get to have the type of funeral this baby deserved NOR put his obituary in the paper til AFTER his funeral because of people like you and the media and the threats and inuendos. We had to do a private ceremony and only invite relatives and close friends. Its sad when people have nothing better to do with their time than to speculate what they think happened in an incident they no ABSOLUTELY nothing about. This family is trying to grieve the loss of 3 people in our lives(we had another death 8 months ago due to illness but still fresh) and can’t because of this kind of crap. I wouldnt wish anything like this on anyone and have learned that some people are more concerned about bashing a mother and her family than offering any kind of condolences or kind words. I pray to God none of you ever have to go thru this and try to cope. I refuse to say anything else cause I have more important things to do like try to explain to a 9 year old why you people are so very cruel.
10:06 pm on January 27th, 2008
As Imp stated once before, you seem to have us confused with a jury.
Funny, I would think you would have been more pissed that the baby didn’t get the LIFE it deserved.
10:13 pm on January 27th, 2008
Can you explain to me why a 9 year old knows anything about what we are saying? Are you in another room not monitoring their internet usage?
Seriously, your family has a thing about supervising minors…just saying.
10:14 pm on January 27th, 2008
Concerned relative, we are morning the loss of this baby. Just like we morn the loss of so many children due to abuse and/or neglect. We are not trying to judge people we are not in the court room right now, I think more than anything else we are trying to understand WHY?! Why walk away from the bathroom? What was so important that you leave the room. Most of us get on here day after day and every single day there is another child murdered. People that know the murders get on here and say that the person was the best mother/father ever and they don’t understand why we are being mean. We are not being mean we are trying to find someway to cope with the death we read about every day.
The best thing to do if someone in your family is on the news is not to google their name until months afterwards, otherwise you are going to get hurt. We are not trying to be mean/cruel/hateful, we are trying to understand. And sometimes we make innappropriate comments or jokes inorder to lighten up this very dark web-site.
I hope that God does bless your family, I hope the older child that survived does not have memories of his brother drowning. I hope your family does get closure and peace but going on-line right now will not help you gain that peace. May God Bless you and I hope for your family’s sake that Elizabeth really is not guilty of this murder and it really was an accident.
10:16 pm on January 27th, 2008
that is supposed to be, “people that know the murderers”
10:18 pm on January 27th, 2008
Um, we’re not a jury. A jury will probably find the way we did, but this is not America, this is the internet. We are a snarky crime blog. I’m not at all sure why you’d even still be reading here.
Who else would you invite to a funeral? We’re not Westboro Baptist Church up in here. We don’t picket funerals. To blame us for media coverage is kind of nuts, since we don’t control the media. Our influence is not so far reaching that the world reads here – yet. Give us a year.
If our snarking makes even one mother take a look at her drug-selling boyfriend and walk away, it’s worth it. If our snarking makes even one mother decide NOT to leave her infant, even for a minute, in a bathtub with another child, it was totally worth it. Of course we’re sorry for your loss. It’s horrible when a baby dies. It’s even more horrible when a baby dies because its mother wasn’t paying attention when she turned her back on him while he was in the bathtub, where “a baby can drown in a teaspoon of water”. I hope that’s a mistake she never makes again.
Why in God’s name are you letting a nine year old read here? That’s crazy. No child should ever read here. You shouldn’t even be discussing this site with a nine year old. My teenager doesn’t even get to read here. If you have a nine year old and are letting him read here, then no wonder you don’t think Elizabeth did anything wrong. Holy cats.
10:20 pm on January 27th, 2008
Well, no shit. That’s amazing.
10:25 pm on January 27th, 2008
Concerned relative, in this case, I tend to find you pathetic. You act like this was “whoops…just an accident”. No matter what you say or how many times you try to say it, a responsible mother or father does not leave their baby alone in the bath tub. You made a statement in Post #32 about how any mother might turn their backs and grab a towel or get the other child out, and I say no dammit. That is stupidity. If I’d forgotten the baby’s towel, I’d grab the damn baby out, so that when I wasn’t looking she wouldn’t slip under the water, that is what a responsible parent does. Another thing I had a special seat for both my kids when they were little, that prevented them from slipping under the water. It looks absolutely horrible that all the pharmies were found in the house as well. My first assumption was this….parents all fucked up, and stepped out of the room, and briefly forgot about the babies, and in their drug-induced ignorance, that beautiful child died. Goddamn I despise you people that defend ignorant, dumbass parents who are simply neglectful.
You know you stated in the beginning of your rant about “innocent until proven guilty”. Please tell me, who is guilty if not the parents that this child drowned? You going to blame it on the other baby….I mean REALLY. This baby WOULD NOT have died if the mother or father was in the fucking bathroom with their kids. You don’t leave a baby in the tub, and if you do, you’re an idiot who’s ignorance will kill your baby.
12:03 am on January 28th, 2008
HAHA!! That was me she was yelling at!
People like us, huh? Yea, what a bunch of assholes we are for caring about a child who never had a chance.
12:11 am on January 28th, 2008
Geez, Concerned Relatively-Nuts is mad at us and ignores that the mama was living with a drunk-driving, drug dealer. I’d like to hear her explain to the 9 year old why someone would move two babies into an apartment with hundreds of illegal pills in it and a drunk driver.
12:17 am on January 28th, 2008
Morbid, do you have a section on this site for ‘Mother of the Year’?
For ConcernedRelative’s sake, I’d like to nominate Elizabeth.
8:06 am on January 28th, 2008
And i totally LIKE you.
I was just feeling snarky that day. Forgive me?
8:52 am on January 28th, 2008
Absolutely! I reserve holding grudges for baby killers, not witty bloggers.
I was more pissed at myself for using weather instead of whether…
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