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		<title>By: psychmama</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7957</link>
		<dc:creator>psychmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to add, I was pinched with a dreadful twist. It was very painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to add, I was pinched with a dreadful twist. It was very painful.</p>
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		<title>By: PORTUGA</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7528</link>
		<dc:creator>PORTUGA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know examples where grandmas are real debauches. Evil old tarts,
that shouldn&#039;t be alowed ever to procreate in the first place, and someone makes the mistake to allows them to approach a second generation (not that rare) And most families especially the god church obeying type will do anything to preserve the appearances of family values, even when knowing that the kid was being honest and saying what he felt. 
So yes I go for calling a bitch a bitch  or a debouche! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know examples where grandmas are real debauches. Evil old tarts,<br />
that shouldn&#8217;t be alowed ever to procreate in the first place, and someone makes the mistake to allows them to approach a second generation (not that rare) And most families especially the god church obeying type will do anything to preserve the appearances of family values, even when knowing that the kid was being honest and saying what he felt.<br />
So yes I go for calling a bitch a bitch  or a debouche! <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: WryBread</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7503</link>
		<dc:creator>WryBread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote. debauched has the same meanig is just a bit more british and less french.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

deâ€¢bauch   (d -bÃ´ch ) 
v. deâ€¢bauched, deâ€¢bauchâ€¢ing, deâ€¢bauchâ€¢es 
v.tr. 
1. 
a. To corrupt morally.
b. To lead away from excellence or virtue.
2. To reduce the value, quality, or excellence of; debase. See Synonyms at corrupt.
3. Archaic To cause to forsake allegiance.
v.intr. 
To indulge in dissipation.
n. 
1. The act or a period of debauchery.
2. An orgy.

So it&#039;s okay by you, Portuga, to call Grandma an insulting name if it&#039;s in a language that she doesn&#039;t understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;blockquote. debauched has the same meanig is just a bit more british and less french.</p>
<p>deâ€¢bauch   (d -bÃ´ch )<br />
v. deâ€¢bauched, deâ€¢bauchâ€¢ing, deâ€¢bauchâ€¢es<br />
v.tr.<br />
1.<br />
a. To corrupt morally.<br />
b. To lead away from excellence or virtue.<br />
2. To reduce the value, quality, or excellence of; debase. See Synonyms at corrupt.<br />
3. Archaic To cause to forsake allegiance.<br />
v.intr.<br />
To indulge in dissipation.<br />
n.<br />
1. The act or a period of debauchery.<br />
2. An orgy.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s okay by you, Portuga, to call Grandma an insulting name if it&#8217;s in a language that she doesn&#8217;t understand?</p>
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		<title>By: colomom</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7464</link>
		<dc:creator>colomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;See that is exactly why I would have tore her little butt up.  She is being the adult.  She threatened you, got by with it, and evidently didnâ€™t get a spanking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After she said that I told her that if I went to jail she would have to live in a foster home.  Then I chased her to her room.  Usually &quot;the look&quot; will straighten them right up.  I am very lucky to have good kids and I never fail to follow-up on my threats.  Actually my kids are scared to death of me when I am pissed.  

I am so proud ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>See that is exactly why I would have tore her little butt up.  She is being the adult.  She threatened you, got by with it, and evidently didnâ€™t get a spanking.</p></blockquote>
<p>After she said that I told her that if I went to jail she would have to live in a foster home.  Then I chased her to her room.  Usually &#8220;the look&#8221; will straighten them right up.  I am very lucky to have good kids and I never fail to follow-up on my threats.  Actually my kids are scared to death of me when I am pissed.  </p>
<p>I am so proud <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PORTUGA</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7436</link>
		<dc:creator>PORTUGA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main problem is that kids are a reflecting mirror of the environments&#039; they grow and pass by, they absorbe everything they see and hear, they will make there own conclusions about a lot of matters, especially if they believe it to be crucial to get what they want and worst they will learn how to manipulate the parents if the parents try to manipulate them. Home is like a country where the parents are the rulers and they are the opposition and when you first pick a fight with them, with the first oppressive shush, you  give them, you are up for a long fight, at  least 18 years.
 With the uncertainty of who they really are as you will never allowed to express full feelings being those the good and the bad. 

 As been said above they can become the molestor in the school that we wouldn&#039;t know.


Best way is avoid a oppressive I&#039;m bigger and I am the boss that&#039;s why I can kick your ass style, and go for the equal respect no nonsense approach, could grandma be a bitch, I&#039;m pretty sure that is the reality for many kids,extreme but true.

No point in oppressing that behind family values. Not true hear the kids point of view and work  it with pacience. Not a smack, otherwise that word will be kept stored in a corner of the brain waiting to be used in a near future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem is that kids are a reflecting mirror of the environments&#8217; they grow and pass by, they absorbe everything they see and hear, they will make there own conclusions about a lot of matters, especially if they believe it to be crucial to get what they want and worst they will learn how to manipulate the parents if the parents try to manipulate them. Home is like a country where the parents are the rulers and they are the opposition and when you first pick a fight with them, with the first oppressive shush, you  give them, you are up for a long fight, at  least 18 years.<br />
 With the uncertainty of who they really are as you will never allowed to express full feelings being those the good and the bad. </p>
<p> As been said above they can become the molestor in the school that we wouldn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Best way is avoid a oppressive I&#8217;m bigger and I am the boss that&#8217;s why I can kick your ass style, and go for the equal respect no nonsense approach, could grandma be a bitch, I&#8217;m pretty sure that is the reality for many kids,extreme but true.</p>
<p>No point in oppressing that behind family values. Not true hear the kids point of view and work  it with pacience. Not a smack, otherwise that word will be kept stored in a corner of the brain waiting to be used in a near future!</p>
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		<title>By: thepooh5</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7433</link>
		<dc:creator>thepooh5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Besides, the last time I threatened to spank my daughter (sheâ€™s  she yelled at meâ€¦â€Itâ€™s illegal and you will go to jailâ€.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Spanking is not a good idea&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See that is exactly why I would have tore her little butt up.  She is being the adult.  She threatened you, got by with it, and evidently didn&#039;t get a spanking.  

I would have handed her the phone and told her to start dialing.  I have no problem with telling any DFS agency I spanked my kid.  Be happy to disguss it with them.  Spanking is not abuse.  Losing privileges means nothing to my son.  He knows eventually they will be restored.  And when I was growing up, I would have given up a playstation to get by with some things I wasn&#039;t allowed to do.  I would have considered the &quot;fun&quot; to out weigh the loss of a privilege.

When I drove a school bus - I had a mean little boy, lovable but mean as a snake.  His parents did not believe in spanking.  One day we had a real bad day - he endangered himself and by me having to go after him, he endangered the other students.  When I ran him down, I told him to go back to the bus - he refused.  I told him if he didn&#039;t start walking I would spank him every step of the way back.  He replied, we don&#039;t get spankings.  I replied well today will be your first and I will give your mom lessons.  He started walking.  He told his mom as soon as she got there to pick him up.  I told her that yes I had said that and had meant every word of it.  She said, you were really gonna spank him?  I said yes, I certainly was.  She did look at me funny, then she thanked me for caring about her child&#039;s well being and the other kids, too.  

She said XXX is so out of hand I am just beside myself.  I told her try wearing his butt out once in a while and he might listen.  The lady and  I still talk today.  She knew I was not gonna be abusing her kid - she knew I wanted him to be safe and behave like a young man should.  I don&#039;t know if she ever started spanking herself, but she has told me then and years later - that she would have supported my decision.  I don&#039;t think she had the heart.  

I figure a good spanking when needed is much better than visiting your kids in the pen because they are not used to having consquences for bad behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Besides, the last time I threatened to spank my daughter (sheâ€™s  she yelled at meâ€¦â€Itâ€™s illegal and you will go to jailâ€.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Spanking is not a good idea</p></blockquote>
<p>See that is exactly why I would have tore her little butt up.  She is being the adult.  She threatened you, got by with it, and evidently didn&#8217;t get a spanking.  </p>
<p>I would have handed her the phone and told her to start dialing.  I have no problem with telling any DFS agency I spanked my kid.  Be happy to disguss it with them.  Spanking is not abuse.  Losing privileges means nothing to my son.  He knows eventually they will be restored.  And when I was growing up, I would have given up a playstation to get by with some things I wasn&#8217;t allowed to do.  I would have considered the &#8220;fun&#8221; to out weigh the loss of a privilege.</p>
<p>When I drove a school bus &#8211; I had a mean little boy, lovable but mean as a snake.  His parents did not believe in spanking.  One day we had a real bad day &#8211; he endangered himself and by me having to go after him, he endangered the other students.  When I ran him down, I told him to go back to the bus &#8211; he refused.  I told him if he didn&#8217;t start walking I would spank him every step of the way back.  He replied, we don&#8217;t get spankings.  I replied well today will be your first and I will give your mom lessons.  He started walking.  He told his mom as soon as she got there to pick him up.  I told her that yes I had said that and had meant every word of it.  She said, you were really gonna spank him?  I said yes, I certainly was.  She did look at me funny, then she thanked me for caring about her child&#8217;s well being and the other kids, too.  </p>
<p>She said XXX is so out of hand I am just beside myself.  I told her try wearing his butt out once in a while and he might listen.  The lady and  I still talk today.  She knew I was not gonna be abusing her kid &#8211; she knew I wanted him to be safe and behave like a young man should.  I don&#8217;t know if she ever started spanking herself, but she has told me then and years later &#8211; that she would have supported my decision.  I don&#8217;t think she had the heart.  </p>
<p>I figure a good spanking when needed is much better than visiting your kids in the pen because they are not used to having consquences for bad behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also remember these paddles from school.  It was only used on me once, but the whole class got it that day because no one would fess up to whatever we were in trouble for.  Can you imagine that happening today?  dont think so!!!
I do agree with spanking but only with your hand. Leaving any kind of mark/bruise/welts/blood would be abuse.  If you are spanking your kids you have to remember not to be mad when you do it.  If you spank a child while angry you are going to abuse them.  (Which it sounds like this guy was angry and is always angry)
If my child called grandma a bitch, I would first ask &quot;why?&quot;  How often do we get mad at parents that did not see that family member/ boyfriend/stepdad was abusing the child?  If my child came to me and said that I would first want to know why and then if it was &quot;She gave me &quot;time-out&quot; for  strangling the cat&quot; then I would of course punish for the words and the cat strangling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also remember these paddles from school.  It was only used on me once, but the whole class got it that day because no one would fess up to whatever we were in trouble for.  Can you imagine that happening today?  dont think so!!!<br />
I do agree with spanking but only with your hand. Leaving any kind of mark/bruise/welts/blood would be abuse.  If you are spanking your kids you have to remember not to be mad when you do it.  If you spank a child while angry you are going to abuse them.  (Which it sounds like this guy was angry and is always angry)<br />
If my child called grandma a bitch, I would first ask &#8220;why?&#8221;  How often do we get mad at parents that did not see that family member/ boyfriend/stepdad was abusing the child?  If my child came to me and said that I would first want to know why and then if it was &#8220;She gave me &#8220;time-out&#8221; for  strangling the cat&#8221; then I would of course punish for the words and the cat strangling.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€¦.Hey, who stole my 8 and replaced it with some cool smilie?â€¦.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Kathy????&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That whore couch is trying to FRAME me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€¦.Hey, who stole my 8 and replaced it with some cool smilie?â€¦.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Kathy????</p></blockquote>
<p>That whore couch is trying to FRAME me!</p>
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		<title>By: colomom</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7418</link>
		<dc:creator>colomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....Hey, who stole my 8 and replaced it with some cool smilie?....

Kathy????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Hey, who stole my 8 and replaced it with some cool smilie?&#8230;.</p>
<p>Kathy????</p>
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		<title>By: colomom</title>
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		<dc:creator>colomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the belt as a kid and occasionally a switch.  By dad only.  The last time he hit me I was about 16 and he punched me dead in the chest and knocked me across the room.  I think it scared him.

I spanked (with hand) my kiddos a few times for serious transgressions.  I used a belt, one swat, on my son once when he was practicing Mortal Combat on his little sister.  I feel bad to this day.  They are older now and loosing privileges is much more effective.

Besides, the last time I threatened to spank my daughter (she&#039;s 8) she yelled at me...&quot;It&#039;s illegal and you will go to jail&quot;.

Spanking is not a good idea ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the belt as a kid and occasionally a switch.  By dad only.  The last time he hit me I was about 16 and he punched me dead in the chest and knocked me across the room.  I think it scared him.</p>
<p>I spanked (with hand) my kiddos a few times for serious transgressions.  I used a belt, one swat, on my son once when he was practicing Mortal Combat on his little sister.  I feel bad to this day.  They are older now and loosing privileges is much more effective.</p>
<p>Besides, the last time I threatened to spank my daughter (she&#8217;s <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> she yelled at me&#8230;&#8221;It&#8217;s illegal and you will go to jail&#8221;.</p>
<p>Spanking is not a good idea <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PORTUGA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PORTUGA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theory! And to be honest if I hit the jackpot and do one half of what I was I&#039;m goin to go mad in a flash!  debauched has the same meanig is just a bit more british and less french.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theory! And to be honest if I hit the jackpot and do one half of what I was I&#8217;m goin to go mad in a flash!  debauched has the same meanig is just a bit more british and less french.  <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: solange822001</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7407</link>
		<dc:creator>solange822001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When my son was 4 he would deliberately drop his drawers and poop in the corners. It came to an abrupt halt when I handed him a single square of toilet paper and told him to pick it up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hahahahahaha, Ashdavus that is highlarious lol. I like the whole &quot;corners&quot; part lmao. The kid has a plan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When my son was 4 he would deliberately drop his drawers and poop in the corners. It came to an abrupt halt when I handed him a single square of toilet paper and told him to pick it up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hahahahahaha, Ashdavus that is highlarious lol. I like the whole &#8220;corners&#8221; part lmao. The kid has a plan</p>
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		<title>By: thepooh5</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7405</link>
		<dc:creator>thepooh5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Portuga - Are you raising kids or are you still in the theoretical part of the process? By the way, â€œdeboucheâ€ sounds a bit like â€œdebauched,â€ so I wouldnâ€™t suggest it as an alternative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly!!! WTH? - Thanks wrybread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Portuga &#8211; Are you raising kids or are you still in the theoretical part of the process? By the way, â€œdeboucheâ€ sounds a bit like â€œdebauched,â€ so I wouldnâ€™t suggest it as an alternative.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly!!! WTH? &#8211; Thanks wrybread.</p>
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		<title>By: thepooh5</title>
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		<dc:creator>thepooh5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portuga  --    &lt;blockquote&gt;So if a kid ever say grandma is bitch, before going rampant we should ask him, why are you saying that, go figure he might be right, â€¦that would be a good time to explain to him either she is or sheâ€™s not a bitch and keep in mind the kid is a good character reader, but explain to him that is ugly to call her a bitch, and while there teach the kid a bit of french as would be more socially acceptable and chick to say grandma its somehow a debouche person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ashdavus  --   &lt;blockquote&gt;If something of this nature is said in my home, our first reaction is to express that we feel itâ€™s a horrible thing to say about anyone, let alone a family member. We ask what would make the person say such a thing. ANDâ€¦we also let it be known that while you donâ€™t have to like everyone, we do expect polite actions and words.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree, that it is good to find out why they feel that way.  I agree that you should make clear the behavior that is not acceptable and what the expectations or requirements are.  If my son says, granny is a bitch, because he didn&#039;t get his way or she was enforcing rules - then I can promise you, he will get his ass tore up.  Yes, he&#039;s 16, and like I told him if he&#039;s 50 and doing something wrong, I&#039;ll tear his ass up then, too.  He knows I will.  The only difference is at 50 I&#039;ll probably bop him up side the head and say what are you doing?

If my son, were an adult and lets say he was the guy messing with high-school girls.  When he got caught, the cops would be keeping me off of him.  I would be trying to kick his ass myself -- I would be screaming at him... &quot;Its so wrong, I raised you to know better and how could you.....&quot;  And, then I would tear into him - not defend him.  My son knows that I mean what I say.  The last time he was spanked he was 7-8 yrs old.  I taught him to listen and respect what I told him from the get go.  Once you have it instilled in their heads, spankings are hardly ever needed again - they know there are consquences and choose not to take them.  Most of the time - obviously not every child.  

And the president analogy in comparison to disciplining children, well, that is just ludicrous.  That is further apart than apples and oranges ever thought about being.  I can&#039;t believe the comparison of name calling the president to name calling an adult family member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portuga  &#8212;<br />
<blockquote>So if a kid ever say grandma is bitch, before going rampant we should ask him, why are you saying that, go figure he might be right, â€¦that would be a good time to explain to him either she is or sheâ€™s not a bitch and keep in mind the kid is a good character reader, but explain to him that is ugly to call her a bitch, and while there teach the kid a bit of french as would be more socially acceptable and chick to say grandma its somehow a debouche person.</p></blockquote>
<p>ashdavus  &#8212;<br />
<blockquote>If something of this nature is said in my home, our first reaction is to express that we feel itâ€™s a horrible thing to say about anyone, let alone a family member. We ask what would make the person say such a thing. ANDâ€¦we also let it be known that while you donâ€™t have to like everyone, we do expect polite actions and words.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, that it is good to find out why they feel that way.  I agree that you should make clear the behavior that is not acceptable and what the expectations or requirements are.  If my son says, granny is a bitch, because he didn&#8217;t get his way or she was enforcing rules &#8211; then I can promise you, he will get his ass tore up.  Yes, he&#8217;s 16, and like I told him if he&#8217;s 50 and doing something wrong, I&#8217;ll tear his ass up then, too.  He knows I will.  The only difference is at 50 I&#8217;ll probably bop him up side the head and say what are you doing?</p>
<p>If my son, were an adult and lets say he was the guy messing with high-school girls.  When he got caught, the cops would be keeping me off of him.  I would be trying to kick his ass myself &#8212; I would be screaming at him&#8230; &#8220;Its so wrong, I raised you to know better and how could you&#8230;..&#8221;  And, then I would tear into him &#8211; not defend him.  My son knows that I mean what I say.  The last time he was spanked he was 7-8 yrs old.  I taught him to listen and respect what I told him from the get go.  Once you have it instilled in their heads, spankings are hardly ever needed again &#8211; they know there are consquences and choose not to take them.  Most of the time &#8211; obviously not every child.  </p>
<p>And the president analogy in comparison to disciplining children, well, that is just ludicrous.  That is further apart than apples and oranges ever thought about being.  I can&#8217;t believe the comparison of name calling the president to name calling an adult family member.</p>
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		<title>By: WryBread</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/01/10/christopher-ellis-makes-crafts-for-kids/#comment-7399</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portuga - Are you raising kids or are you still in the theoretical part of the process? By the way, &quot;debouche&quot; sounds a bit like &quot;debauched,&quot; so I wouldn&#039;t suggest it as an alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portuga &#8211; Are you raising kids or are you still in the theoretical part of the process? By the way, &#8220;debouche&#8221; sounds a bit like &#8220;debauched,&#8221; so I wouldn&#8217;t suggest it as an alternative.</p>
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