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Michael Gagnon Is An Asshole
Created on January 01st, 2008 by Morbid now with 11,089 views
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fromadistance
Jan 5, 2008 at 12:05 am -I stumbled onto this site and have been impressed. Some of the lighter bad news stories such as the Kelsey Peterson story and the comments have given me a much needed laugh. I don’t post often but I will be reading here on a regular basis. The regulars here sem to be a great bunch of people.
202
swivel
Jan 5, 2008 at 12:23 am -Welcome, FromADistance!
Tragedy brings us together, but laughter keeps us close.
203
Morbid
Jan 5, 2008 at 12:39 am -Yeah, so far so good. We don’t have the resident asshole yet, and no one seems to be jockeying for the position. Welcome to the site.
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impqueen
Jan 5, 2008 at 2:14 am -I agree that the blame for this accident belongs to Michael Gagnon. However, from a legal standpoint, it’s unlikely that your argument is gonna wash on liability unless it can be proven that only Michael ever drove that truck. The name on the title, apparently, is Sam’s - not the company’s. So there may well be some legal responsibility on Sam here, just as there is likely to be liability on the part of the bar that continued to serve him.
My initial kneejerk reaction to what I still consider to be a pretty lame apology is somewhat tempered by the hope that Sam’s original quotes were taken out of context (although i have no facts to base that hope on, only other posters hoping that’s the case as well.) The fact remains that Michael killed this family, not Sam. I think everyone here realizes that and has sympathy for the Gagnon family.
But two-thirds of the Gagnon family aren’t dead. In pain, yes, of course, and for that we are all sympathetic. But not dead. And Michael Gagnon is not a child whose life has been snuffed out through no fault of his own. So my sympathies in this case really do lie more with the actual victims here - those who lost their lives, and those who weren’t out partying it up with Michael that night and who had no ability to keep a drunk man away from his keys. If that makes me a harsh bitch, well, in this case i’m willing to bear that label gladly.
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Anonymoustoo
Jan 5, 2008 at 2:49 am -Additional clarifications:
The bar was open for business - our family had a section reserved for the Christmas party.
The keys issue - I know the answer to that question but cannot answer until the case is resolved. I am hoping that there will be a quick resolution without a trial to spare the victim’s family any additional pain & suffering.
Sympathy for the Gagnons - refer to my first posting. The Gagnon family is not asking for any, and asks that the focus remain with the Griffins & Burkmans. If I have inadvertantly given that impression, I apologize.
Civil Liability - Michael can be held liable (obviously), Sam also as the truck owner. and possibly the bar. Maybe the server?
Drugs found in the bar - How stupid can one be to have that stuff (HGH) in the bar, knowing that the bar will be under intense scrutiny???
Morbid you were right as far as the civility on this site. Thank you all.
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Wonder
Jan 5, 2008 at 6:51 am -Thanks Anonymoustoo for posting here and Not defending your family that is obviously to blame.
The message sam wrote from post # 118 was posted on Theresa’s “my space” - whether it was for theresa to aprove or for her to forward on - I did not see it on the memorial site or To: whom it may concern.
so you have been told not to discuss the keys ?
I have a friend that has lousy credit his car and motorcycle is in his brothers name.
* the fact that sam is younger could be his credit is in better shape and Michael was making the payments on it. mutual agreement. my guess.
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Wonder
Jan 5, 2008 at 6:56 am -Thanks ImpQueen for your sympathy - having lost 2 lives, knowing they have surviving children and to see the pain its caused their parents and siblings hurts so very much. has been 2 weeks + 3hrs now and I know her father is still not returned to work and has not been sleeping or eating - cries all the time. But he too has said that he forgives the drunk driver. (He too has been known to drink and drive in the past) I myself can not say that I do and don’t truely understand how he can except that it is his faith in God. The problem I have is that its been publicised over and over that it is ilegal and in that case a man 40 yrs old should know better.
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Wonder
Jan 5, 2008 at 7:23 am -While the family has not finalized funeral arrangements, their church in Baltimore has organized a memorial service for 1 p.m. Tuesday at the St. Luke Lutheran Church.
http://www.toledoblade.com/app...../801050455
Prayers for sydney that she recovers and is released from the hospital soon. does anyone know where Beau and Danny are staying?
Beau is with his father Jack ?
my guess Danny is maybe staying near the hospital with Sydney if he is well enough to do so.
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Hippiepoet
Jan 5, 2008 at 11:47 am -Well said, Imp.
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rollyo
Jan 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm -Hey Morbid you got me all confused with the order of the post. On this page you have the most recent post being #201, but there are post all the way up to #209. A bit confusing. I like the order you had before because you could always look for the post number to find out where you left off. Otherwise, great site, found it after the tragic Gagnon case. As for I live in the town of Adrian and have meet the Gagnon family and have been following it closely.
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rollyo
Jan 5, 2008 at 12:36 pm -This note was in the toledo blade today:
http://www.toledoblade.com/app...../801050455
Theresa Gagnon, the sister of Michael Gagnon, the man charged in the deaths of five people in
Sunday’s crash on I-280, released this statement yesterday on behalf of the Gagnon family:
To especially the Griffin and Burkman family, but to also all of the readers of this article:
As a writer who comes from a close and once happy family, we all would like to express our remorse and the absolute concern for the tragedy that has happened.
Everyone that reads this article knows that we all have been placed in opportunities of making sound decisions or have somehow failed the improper ones. A tragedy such as this one shows how fast life can change, or in all situations, turn around unexpectedly.
The sudden and devastating loss of such innocent lives, those that did not have the chance to make much of an impact upon those outside of the immediate family, is a loss of unbearable tolerance. And for this, we are all truly at a standstill to you how we feel right now.
The loss of these five people, who have been important assets in the lives of many, was something to us that is unimaginable. Although our thoughts and prayers will always be with our son and brother, please understand that my dearest sympathies, thoughts, and prayers, and undivided attention extends to all family members, friends, and individuals that have been touched by this tragic situation.
Our brother cannot apologize in person to everyone that has been affected, but we promise that we will do that for him. My mother, father and the rest of my family want you all to know that the Griffins and the Burkmans will always be in our continued prayers and thoughts.
I pray that God will be there to guide each and every one of us as the days bring about new challenges to overcome. May the words of my mouth and the meditation upon each of our hearts be acceptable in your sight.
Our prayers and thoughts,
The Gagnon Family
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Morbid
Jan 5, 2008 at 3:26 pm -The numbering got whacked for some reason. I’ll get it working right today.
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Morbid
Jan 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm -I had to put the page numbering and comments back to the way they were originally. I don’t have time today to mess with it. However, the default page will now be the last page. So if you click on an article, or post a comment to an article with more than one page, you will be taken to the last page.
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Ruby
Jan 5, 2008 at 5:41 pm -I can live with ‘dat. I don’t care if it’s last to first or first to last. As long as I don’t have to go back to page 1 and nav through every flippin’ time to read the most recent comment. This works.
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rollyo
Jan 5, 2008 at 8:42 pm -Thats all good
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mg
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:35 am -this is a post from the memorial myspace page from yesterday, Jan 5th.
Just wanted to thank everyone for their support. We are coping as well as expected. Beau is doing very well. My heart goes out to everyone. Especially the little ones. I will get Beau by the school when he is ready to say say hi to all his friends. I understand some won’t believe he is alive until they see him. Brett and I got to see Beth, Haley, Lacie and Vadie last night. We got to hug them, kiss them and say our goodbyes. We were able to make their final arrangement. Dan and Sydney are doing good. Sydney is walking around and should make a full recovery. Dan is the strongest man I know and my heart goes out to him. Again I want to thank everyone for their support. I better get some sleep, we drove back from Ohio last night and just walked in the door. I had to let everyone know how Beau was doing.
Also, Micheal Gagnon’s mom spoke to reporters about how remorseful he is in this news-story:
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pb...../801060349
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 4:46 am -http://www.myspace.com/bhjlv
reposting the link on this page,
Thanks mg for that note.
I had to go look to see who posted it. It is from Jack
here I go crying tears again this is so painful.
I am Happy to hear finally that sydney is up and walking around
very good news indeed.
I feel so sorry for Jordan If her funeral is separated from the others due to her living in Michigan - I do hope the families remain close thru the years. Also wondering what Dan will do If he will remain in Baltimore.
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 5:30 am -message from Tray on the memorial site
I went to the church service this morning for the family. It was beautiful. Most of the immediate family were able to come. Beau did pretty well. He broke down at one point, but he had a lot of support of course. Danny was there and looking very well physically. He still must wear the metal ‘halo’ for his spine injury for many more weeks though. We all hugged him and Jack very tight. Jack, Dan and myself all wore our BLUE of course.
Afterwards I took my Godson Beau and Jack’s fiancee’s son, along with my 11year old son to my cousin’s house (she also has a son that is 7). The boys all played football and playstation, Beau had a blast and was smiling. It was great to see! Meanwhile Jack was able to get some well deserved and needed sleep while we were gone.
Tomorrow my husband and I plan on making some food and taking it to Dan’s hotel to help them with food expenses. For Tuesday, I’m sure everyone has read in the paper that the gathering after the memorial service will be at the American Legion in Towson. Directions will be given at the church service. Thanks to everyone for their constant support. Bethany would have been ‘humbled’ by the support and outreach from all over the country.
Posted by Tray on Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 5:54 PM
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 5:39 am -two interesting post from bethany’s my space
Wednesday, July 04, 2007
One More weekend
of craziness with the Michigan house from hell and then it’s over…finally.
The estate sale is this weekend and I for one will be glad to be done with that house. It has been a pain in the ass and taken up so much of our time and energy. A stick of dynamite would have done the trick too.
The 8 hour drive from Baltimore to Michigan takes its toll especially on a preggo who has a bladder that doesn’t hold much anymore. Oh and have I mentioned how boring the three hour drive through Ohi-er on the turnpike is?
I am already in my 6 month of pregnancy and Dan and I were just saying how we have not had time to just breathe and enjoy me being pregnant or enjoy the summer.
On a good note…with all the trips to Michigan, I have been getting my fix of loose hamburgers (which I can’t get here).
Hey for every cloud man…ya gotta find something.
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Friday, May 11, 2007
Time is flying
Like it always seems to do for me while I am pregnant. I am not like most women who feel like time stands still and they will be pregnant f-o-r-e-v-e-r!
I am already in my 16th week…close to halfway finished baking this little tater tot. I swear I feel like Danny and I just decided to start trying for this baby and here I am already.
It’s nice to be over the first trimester hump and past the time when I feel exhausted all the time. Taking a nap everyday just isn’t always plausible when you have 6 kids and 2 beasts to care for. Not to mention working, school and homework.
So, now I am just enjoying being pregnant and the amazing wonderful time it is. Speaking of which, the little one has been poking at me lately. I never get tired of that feeling.
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That is a long trip, does anyone know did Dan have custody of his girls - I had wondered if they were intending on taking the girls back to michigan after new years for school. Or was it they were bring them home from visiting jody for the holidays. Who is she referring to as the 2 beast ?
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solange822001
Jan 7, 2008 at 7:06 am -Wonder, I’m almost positive she is referring to two dogs or pets or something.
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impqueen
Jan 7, 2008 at 7:06 am -The pets.
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impqueen
Jan 7, 2008 at 7:11 am -At least, once would assume the pets… but since Bethany’s DEAD, it’s kind of hard to ask her, isn’t it?
I might be touchy this morning, but is there really a need to repost months-old personal writings of dead victim when the links to same have already been provided and the C&P’d entries have nothing to do with her death?
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solange822001
Jan 7, 2008 at 7:24 am -A quote from the article about Gagnon’s mom:
They should rephrase that to “when children are killed in crashes caused by drunk drivers”! The story goes on to paint this picture of him as such a hard worker and saint. It also says he hunts deer with a bow and arrow, and has antlers up in his home. I’m sorry, I know a lot of people hunt and see no problem with it, but I am not fond of people who hunt down innocent animals.
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:01 am -no Impq i didnt know there was a problem and no i didnt see this before and maybe some new groupys havent either but if you want to get someone in a bad mood this morning with you so be it OMG
I didn’t know they traveled back and forth (long trip) that much I knew nothing about an estate
guess you missed my question did the father dan have custody of his girls ???
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Kathy
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:06 am -Wonder, if you read all the links in the order that they are provided (like any new members are likely to do) you will see that they were picking up the two girls in Michigan for a visit from their mothers house where they LIVED AND WENT TO SCHOOL. So, from this one could assume that he did not have custody of the girls.
How this is relevant to the case, I don’t know. I think imp is simply pointing out he fact that many of your posts are redundant and go off on unrelated tangents with outrageous speculations that mostly confuse instead of clarify.
Please read, comprehend and THEN comment.
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:10 am -and no i didnt think of pets, 6 kids and (2 threw me off ) not 1 beast meaning the husband
and yes it really did kinda piss me off how rude one can be when i was just sharing. its ok when i over look all the crap that is dished out here that has nothing to do with the case and all the humor that is thrown around 0_O # of views and # of post don’t equal up - it has been noted that family members do look at these pages… but you don’t hear me knocking people that post before me. I have a nature about me to be helpful and kind not sarcastic and rude.
take a hit off your bong! can’t we all just get along ?
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Kathy
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:14 am -LMAO!!
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:15 am -i been reading this since the beginning and I have hit the links and I have went to other pages outside of this site but i do miss things, we are not all perfect or english majors - you can not trust what the papers write you can not read between the lines. but in my state may when bethany wrote that she was caring for 6 children during the school year. so it is confusing i was just verifing who has custody. why would they be traveling on a sunday back to maryland with kids possibly with tons of christmas gift unwrapped. most school start back after new years … so that is another reason i thought maybe the custody is with the dad.
I am not totally S-t-u-p-i=d
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WryBread
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:28 am -Wonder, thank you for posting the comments from other boards. I found the mother’s reflections on being pregnant to be poignant and they brought her to life for me. Such a sad tragedy.
I don’t have time to read all the links and boards and posts, so appreciate it when someone picks out something that they feel is of special significance and posts it.
Having lost many loved ones when I was a child, it is good to hear that the little boy is smiling some and surrounded by people who care. It’s so hard when one is a child to deal with death.
On a lighter note — does anyone know what “loose hamburgers” are? Sounds like you have to stab them with a fork as they run around the dining table.
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Wonder
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:44 am -yw Wry
groundbeef crumbled with seasoning - I would call mine “sloppy joe” -
loose meet is what they sell in the Diner on the “Roseann” show.
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WryBread
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:55 am -Oh, is that what loose hamburger is? Much less appealing than my idea.
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impqueen
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm -Heh. Y’know, if you were this concise and funny all the time, you’d be the most popular girl on the blog.
Well, OMG to you too
Getting you in a bad mood wasn’t really my intention - after all, I did say that i might just be touchy today. And apparently I was. Somehow posting Bethany’s blog messages in their entirety seemed intrusive to me, although I can see how it might not feel that way to others, or even to me at a different time. I was cranky, I apologize.
A couple of times it’s seemed like maybe you were trying to find negative things about this dead woman (asking who the “beasts” were without really reading, for example), and that rubbed me the wrong way, and I was more abrupt than I should have been.
In answer to your custody question: I dunno who had custody of Danny’s kids. Most of them are dead now, so to me it’s kind of a moot question. Does it matter? If so, I’ll try to find an answer for you.
Again, my apologies. I’ll really try not to be a bitch, and if I don’t feel that I can answer without sarcasm, I’ll try not to answer you at all.
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Hippiepoet
Jan 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm -I have to agree with this statement. I felt very strange reading what you posted Wonder. Invasive. It truthfully made me cry, because yes, it seems you are so concerned with the details of these folks lives and I wonder why? They’re dead, killed one horrific night by an inconsiderate drunk driver. What child belonged to who, or lived with whomever….you get my drift…doesn’t seem to really matter. Most of the children are dead. Reading how Bethany felt on the trips back and forth, what does that matter? Really?
I guess that statement right there, It felt so god damn odd. Why in the world are you curious as to these things?
One smart thing you did say….
I’m all for the natural medication.
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tray-bay-bay
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:44 pm -http://www.myfoxtoledo.com/myf.....amp;sflg=1
Hope this link works. Apparently Michael Gagnon was sent here by God to kill this family because God hates Baltimore. What the FUCK? I’m speechless…that’s really saying a lot. What fucking freaks!
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Rosie
Jan 9, 2008 at 1:28 pm -The link works and that group of fools are so wrong to do that at any funeral, especially this one. Why do we never hear of any of this bunch getting the hell knocked out of them or ran over?
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WryBread
Jan 9, 2008 at 1:47 pm -These haters showed up at the funeral of the 13 miners killed in my area. No one is sure how they are funded, but they go from one high-publicity funeral to another and spread hate about homosexuals. Their logic in our case was, “God hates homosexuals. Thirteen miners died. Clearly God did this because the state they live in doesn’t persecute homosexuals.”
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tabularasa9
Jan 9, 2008 at 1:47 pm -That’s beyond any from of idiocy.
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pms.247
Jan 9, 2008 at 1:54 pm -This just makes no sense. What does this family’s tragic deaths have to do with the military, homosexuality, or anything? Those assholes just want to get noticed - draw attention to themselves. Unbelievable!
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Wonder
Jan 11, 2008 at 3:56 am -Sydney was released from the hospital either monday or tuesday that is very good news. Good bless her heart loosing a sister is hard enough but three of them and a great step mom.
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rollyo
Jan 11, 2008 at 3:09 pm -Do you believe this? When will people learn, I mean after the horrible accident someone else does it too?
http://www.toledoblade.com/app...../672728389
Man hurt in a wrong-way accident on I-475 in Toledo
Dewey
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BLADE STAFF
In the second instance in less than two weeks, an apparently intoxicated driver was involved in an injury accident going the wrong way on a Toledo interstate early Friday, authorities said.
Tiffany Dewey, 20, of 5210 Spicer Rd., was arrested at 2:20 a.m. shortly after the vehicle she was driving west in the eastbound lanes of I-475 at Rushland Avenue near the Monroe Street entrance ramp collided with a pickup truck, injuring its driver, Toledo police said.
Ms. Dewey was charged with driving while intoxicated and cited for reckless operation and driving the wrong way on a one-way street.
Cramer
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A passenger in her vehicle, Nicole Cramer, 19, of 145 Mettler St., fled the scene and was arrested a short time later and charged with disorderly conduct/intoxication. Both were booked into the Lucas County jail, Lucas County sheriff’s deputies said.
Tom Walker, of 5910 Rambo Lane, the driver of the pickup, escaped serious injury after he swerved in an attempt to avoid the collision. He was taken to Toledo Hospital, police said. A hospital spokesman said she had no information about a person by that name.
The eastbound lanes of the expressway were closed to traffic for about 1½ hours.
On Dec. 30, Michael Gagnon, 24, drove I-280 in the wrong direction for nearly four miles before his pickup truck collided with a minivan carrying a family home after a holiday trip. Five members of a Maryland family — including an 8-week-old girl — were killed in the crash.
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ashdavus
Jan 11, 2008 at 6:26 pm -Here’s a prospective bride for Mr. Gagnon…
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/st.....id=5884443
WTVG — Just twelve days after five people were killed when a drunk driver went the wrong way on I-280, another wrong-way accident.
It is a case of déjà vu in the Glass City. Just twelve days after five people were killed when a drunk driver went the wrong way on I-280, another wrong-way accident. This one happened after 2:00 a.m. on I-475 between the Secor and Monroe Street exits. The driver was heading westbound on east 475 when she slammed into another truck.
Tiffany Dewey, 20, was arrested for reckless operation and driving while intoxicated. Her passenger, Nicole Kramer, 19, tried to run away but was apprehended and charged with disorderly conduct intoxication.
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fromadistance
Jan 13, 2008 at 1:05 am -She’s a winner here. Check out her myspace page and be sure to keep the sound up.
http://www.myspace.com/hotsaucexo
And of course she’s a proud mom.
The live video of her crying and landing her butt in the cop car is the best. Whoever the local taxi cab compay is should play that as an ad. Cry your way to jail or hell or call us!
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solange822001
Jan 13, 2008 at 3:36 am -LMAO, I wish one her MySpace friends would have the balls to post a clip of that on her MySpace page. That would be freaking awesome. Come on, someone do it!
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fromadistance
Jan 13, 2008 at 3:47 am -A few people already left comments….I dare ya
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Wonder
Jan 13, 2008 at 4:04 am -just shakes head - young and naive ~ but old enough to have a high sch diploma
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WryBread
Jan 13, 2008 at 6:05 am -Why is Tiffany such a common first name among these stories?
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ashdavus
Jan 13, 2008 at 11:19 am -because it is synonymous with brain dead.
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tabularasa9
Jan 14, 2008 at 9:14 am -lol
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Morbid
Jan 14, 2008 at 9:20 pm -I just recieved this email from a someone named Jesse and thought I would share it:
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Jessie wrote:
I read your article on Michael Gagnon,and I was just wondering if you could add
this to your site. The mom was active in a lot of yahoo groups, and the members
of those groups have created auctions on ebay to raise money to help pay for the
funerals. If you could put this link on the site that would be great
http://search.ebay.com/%2Fbeth.....QQsbrsrtZd
If the link doesn’t work, go to ebay and then search for beth&angels
Thank you so much. The ladies have worked so hard on these auctions to help
the family.
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I checked out the links, and it seems legit, but you know.
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rollyo
Jan 21, 2008 at 1:45 pm -he pleaded not guilty. just wanted to me number 250 to post on this subject! Oh by the way Ohio has had 8 drunk driving deaths this year already and 3 yes 3 wrong way accidents (on two involved alcohol though).
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