I think I’m going to vomit. I literally feel physically ill. I need a break from this.

You know I hate secrets, and it drive me crazy when someone one knows something I don’t know.
But I think in this instance you were doing us some favors.
Now that I see all these new facts, the rage I felt at the beginning that was starting to die down feels FRESH and NEW.

I would love nothing better than to take a knife to those fuckers myself. And I hope that if what was said about Myrna Spears is true, they put her away for good.

Fuck Morbid, please let us know if any of this turns up to be factual. What Chris “might” have done to that child is despicable. I just figured he ripped her upon penile insertion. I don’t know man, folks seem to be all charged up over the Megan suicide and Lori…and I am thinking what the fuck? If anyone deserves hatred and anger shot at them it’s these two sick motherfuckers, Chris and David. Every time I come here and look at Chris’ picture, it really fucks with me. He has this look like he is proud of himself, like he thinks he’s got a great cock, and like he is badder than bad. I look at him, and think of Rowan, and then my own daughter, it is times like these that I question my own morality. I want to be non-violent, but no I can’t here. I’m fucked up, surely, because part of me is so curious as to WHY? I want to ask him so bad, “WHY, why the fuck would you do this? What was going through your mind? What fucked you up so goddamn bad? Do you even realize what a sick motherfucking thing you did?”

Remember that these are just rumors. I was just put into a strange place as I didn’t want to knowingly hurt anyone directly related to the incident, but on the other hand, the entire purpose of this site is discussing crime events, even if that includes rumors surrounding events. I also didn’t want to get anyone into any trouble.

So, if anyone is reading this who may ever inquire, all of these rumors I posted were gathered from the internet or speculations by me and were not ever given to me by anyone directly. Period.

Not only can I not fathom how somebody could derive pleasure from that, I can’t understand why Chris would do that to Colleen’s kid. Whe was supposedly his friend, why would he destroy her child in such a horrible way? Ugh. I don’t think I actually *want* to understand, either.

Hippiepoet–I’ve been thinking that myself, that Chris looks proud of himself, while David just looks like he sat on a tack.

OMG OMG OMG

What happened to this child is pure evil. I am sick at my stomach. Yes I know this is just rumors. But with the nature of this case, I don’t doubt it. Chris is a BIG dude. I hope they get ass raped by a baseball bat.

Thanks Morbid, it was driving me crazy to know what you was hiding.

Yeah, Barbara that’d be a good ass fucking for him. I was thinking whether Chris actually did this or not, I was still hoping that some guy named Bubba with a fat Ron Jeremy cock or a long John Holmes cock would ass fuck him like there was no tomorrow.

Long time reader, 1st post: I thought I was un-shockable. But a sob escaped me when I read “that” detail…. Unimaginable.

Which is why I had reservations about posting it when I first heard about it. It may not be true and I would hate to get people upset or angry over a detail that never happened. But that’s what the site is about, discussing things. What I will say is that I was not the only one who has heard that this actually did happen.

I started reading this because of Rowan. This is my first time posting. I am just horrified at what this child had to endure. This is more than any human being could endure. These animals whether they get death or life, will be segregated from the general population. They will have their civil rights protected. Poor Rowan did not have that luxury.

MOrbid, my email address in my profile is one that will work, its not my primary but its my more private one. Janice may message me there.

OK, I gave it to Janice

or else you may forward her message to me, I re-read it and saw that you had the message from her.

well, the rumors Morbid posted are in line with what the coroner said that she would have bled to death from her injuries had she not been strangled. Not sure about the bedsheet part of it, wonder why he would have taken it unless he thought to wrap her up in it to bring her home before they ended up killing her. I dont know, that is pretty horrific but I have heard cases where they cut the girls opening bigger to rape her. Thats the bad part about computers, everyone talks about everything so that the good people are informed but the assholes get more ideas about how to do things.

still waiting on my “secret” message. lol

I don’t think it was secret message as much as she asked for your email address. I think she has some things she would like to discuss with you is all.

okay, will be watching for her email. I feel sorry for her, what with the holidays coming up. I am sure it will be hard for the whole family, this year without her.

Janice also sent me a MySpace message, asking for help finding a charity in the Missouri area for children who are victims of crime, or abuse. Does anyone know of any that I can give her? Or how she could start one? She is really such a sweet person, she has been so understanding of all of us, even after seeing the things we were posting, and to continue to talk to us and answer our questions (honestly too, I may add, I noticed that none of her answers seemed to paint her mother in a more innocent light, which makes me feel that she is not lying to protect her)

Also, guys, that whole “cutting to fit” thing strikes me as false, just a feeling I have. These guys are sick, no doubt, but that is something that I dont really think fits with this crime. I cant really put into words what I’m thinking, but I really have a feeling that it’s just a rumor. Thanks Morbid for telling us though, it was eating me up knowing that you knew something we didnt!

BTW, the myrna spears truck thing, BINGO! Something has bothered me all along about the fact that she drove to his house at 100am to let him borrow her car, and then just chilled there the whole night. I mean, I know some mothers can be pushovers, but to do all that jsut so her son could go out??? Strikes me as very odd. But, him calling her for help, her offering the truck to use to hide Rowan, now THAT makes sense.

I’m sure you guys will think its just as dumb as my other group does, but Myrna Spears has tons of garnishments listed for thousands of dollars in medical bills. Hospitals,in my experience,do not garnish you if you are making some type of payment. To me, her lifestyle that she raised him in is take what you want or need,worry about the consequences later. It TOTALLY is the same thing. Not defending anyone here, but that is total lowlife to be garnished not once,but three times for the same thing. David also has one for a hospital-I am guessing for his child.

hospitals dont normally garnish wages. That must be some serious shit for them to do that!

I am at a loss for words right now romour or not I weep for that poor baby

good for poncho! I think that would be a good place to have candlelite virgil when he burns that camper.

I agree with Barbara Chris is a BIG dude - ball bat would be suitable !

A Blanket would of been a better choice as it was October if David planned on bringing her home with him. This may of started shortly after Colleen left for work and there was evidence on the sheet and felt he needed to dispose of it. (David may have not left her alone at home at all that part could be all untrue) I did read somewhere the item that was burned was the curtain cord. I was unware if Rowan had been found with any clothing on her. I can clearly see tho that the sheet would of flew off as she was being dropped into the cave - then authorities found her naked on the ledge.

I can’t think like these monsters - so I may never be able to understand cutting her to fit it in while she was alive. Men usually refrain from intercourse during a regular menstral cycle. No where does it say she was gagged. Could it be they strangled her at colleens. Decided Chris would take her to the camper until they came up with a plan how to cover up what they just did. plan to take second car so David could get back before Colleen got home - then realized his gas tank was low - no gas stations near by or all were closed since it was after 10 or 11 by then. thats when he called him mom to use her car desperate to catch up with Chris. Once Myrna said ok she was coming he could of calmed down enough to seem normal enough. Once he got there and seen Chris on top (Chris having cut her before David arrived) he too decided to have one less go at it hisself.

I never believed the video - news media stated they struggled her outside grabbing a cord like the one the goats were tied with out of the pick up truck. If she had been stark naked - surely not after all that she would be conscience standing or walking kinda hard to carry a child and struggle at the same time I would think.

so in my opinion colleen put her to bed, went to work the monsters went in her room and started molesting her she looks up and david strangled her.

I am wondering if this was done to rowan as a vedetta toward colleen for something she had said or done or she rejected having sex earlier before going to work.

I am curious what colleen’s opinion is. ((Morbid)) have you asked Janice my question has Colleen visited David or been speaking with him on the phone any at all?

I just can’t imagine sitting back and not storming to Myrna or the jail to get answers why why why

blame game : Chris is still responsible for dropping Rowna into the cave - David’s brother said in the video - David was too overweight unable to carry her due to shortness of breath.

As far as Myrna goes - No way could she have known it would ever be this bad. Who would. If she knew that Rowan wasn’t there she would of had him drop her back at her house then to hang out at Colleens. how far apart is Myrna and Colleens?

I wished they could give her a lie detacter test - so how is the community treating her ((bexter)) anything like Lori Drew ? I am shocked we are not seeing her on the news like drew peterson fighting them off her lawn.

(elle) how do you find out about a person garnishments ?

I thought for sure they do send hospital and doctor bills to collection agency and apply for garishments - seems like if you don’t apply for financial aid withoin the hosp or make arrangements to pay something monthly they garish wages. Not that I believe Myrna holds a job or does she too work at walmart - i kinda remember reading that too somewhere.

*unless Myrna stayed at colleens to clean up the bloody mess

I am saying thank-you to Morbid for staying true to your site and not patronizing us by with holding what might be ugly or controversial. I am devastated for anyone who loved Rowan who may be aware of these rumors. I hope Janice does know the facts, and knowing them either gives her strength or peace when she comes across this kind of discussion.

that being said for me, clearly there are some unusual disturbing details that are not out in the mainstream just from the information I have read on here regarding how LE are reacting to this case. While I would like to agree with solange, I have a sinking feeling that something awful like what Morbid posted is possible. Chris had all the time in the world once he brought Rowan back to his trailer. Really both of them did-since we still don’t know when she was actually killed, just the period of time that Chris and David were out at the bars and when David says he arrived home or Myrna says when he did. We know for sure David was there when Colleen got home from work. Oh the poor, poor baby. I don’t know how they are going to make it to trial and why this hasn’t inspired a lynching, although I am not suggesting or recommending one.