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David Spears, Chris Collings Arrested In Death Of Rowan Ford
Created on November 10th, 2007 by Morbid now with 40,291 views
Tags: Chris Collings, David Spears, Pedophile, Rape, Rowan Ford, Strangulation
Category Crime| Murder |
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SWMissouriMom
Nov 29, 2007 at 7:35 pm -VERY well said Death watch!
Blessings to you.
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julienia
Nov 29, 2007 at 7:44 pm -Ok ROSIE,
no you didn’t run me off and why would you say something like he beat the shit outta her for posting, bitch you don’t know me or my life, and he has never hit a woman, but I sure as hell will. You have no right to ever say something like that, and yes his myspace page is blocked because I blocked it from all you. He has no idea I’m posting on here because he doesn’t owe you shit, so why stup to your level? Another thing is our myspace pages are for our families to keep in touch and for our children to keep in contact with friends from the west coast, not for you to mock and make jokes. So they will not be open to the public.. Guess what people get a fucking life! I will talk to certain people just not here, other’s know how to get in contact with me.. And for Janice, way to go girl..
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Barbara
Nov 29, 2007 at 7:51 pm -Rosie,
I have never been to prison but I have seen how life is in prison on MSNBC. The child sex offenders for the most part “get themselves in trouble on purpose” to get in solitary confinement to ensure their safety.
I love the death penalty myself however I want these 2 douchebags in general population where they will be some scared mofo’s
Always watching their back.
Gawd I hope they are being tormented right now. I had a family member do 30 days in jail for “failure to appear”. She said sleep was impossible cause people screamed and hollered every minute of every day.
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Barbara
Nov 29, 2007 at 8:02 pm -LOL
TAMMY WYNETTE
Stand By Your Man
(Tammy Wynette/Billy Sherrill)
Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
You’ll have bad times
And he’ll have good times
Doing things that you don’t understand
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
But if you love him you’ll forgive him
Even though he’s hard to understand
And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
Cause after all he’s just a man
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
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solange82200
Nov 29, 2007 at 8:37 pm -Wow Julienia, calm down. It’s not that serious, to be threatening Rosie like that. If you were really rational, you would understand why we feel the way we do about Frank. The fact that you are so outraged makes me realize how naive you are. BTW, speaking of your page, it looks like you dont have custody of your kids. It’s probably better that way, keep them away from Frankie poo.
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solange82200
Nov 29, 2007 at 8:38 pm -Oh yeah, and you never answered my question, where is poor little Michael? I’d bet just about anything that Frankie poo isnt raising him the way he should be.
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farmergurl62
Nov 29, 2007 at 8:52 pm -julienia not tryimg to be rude but i personally dont want to know about you and frank on this post this is for rowan and her family if you want a post have morbid give you one as far as i am concerned lets not make rowan’s site a fuck you fight between you and rosie if thats what you all want to do please by all means pass each other your email and hash it out but just dont do it at the expense of this bab’s posting site were here for ro3wan not for you and rosie
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Barbara
Nov 29, 2007 at 9:04 pm -farmergurl62
I agree with you.
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Barbara
Nov 29, 2007 at 9:34 pm -OMG!!! Chris Collings myspace page is back up! WTF?
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believe909
Nov 29, 2007 at 10:23 pm -Juliena-please stop hijacking, and I mean it nicely. I for one would like to focus on Rowan. She deserves it and I want to understand how this precious little thing ended up in such an unholy place.
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Hippiepoet
Nov 29, 2007 at 10:54 pm -Juliena? Hmmm I thought she was sick of this place and wasn’t coming back to post. God, Morbid, this site is so addictive. Apparently Juliena cannot stay away…caught in the web of the Demon. *insert evil laughter here*
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Barbara
Nov 29, 2007 at 11:38 pm -Hippiepoet
Dontcha just feel like your in the middle of a BAD Jerry Springer episode?
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Wonder
Nov 30, 2007 at 12:17 am -I am Sad too Janice left especially the way she did, 1 person’s comment ?
I would think it might be really difficult for any family members to be on the internet reading what the viewers or media have to say. I am not sure it is Healthy for anybody to be dwelling in these stories. All depends on the indiviual and why they are doing so. It’s not my place to characterize
some post just need to be disregarded as you are here and read enough you can syphon thur and ignore the trouble makers.
I do wonder and thought Janice could answer - Has colleen been visiting or receiving phone calls with David (or Chris)
What is transpiring between Colleen and Myrna -
Did they have a close relationship?
Did she play a grandmother role to Rowan?
I do hope she is receiving grief counseling
*scratching head again is missouri really that awful infested with lice.
monthly seems extreme - I am still curious as to why the social worker didn’t
discuss the laundry and vaccuming in the report
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Barbara
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:10 am -Wonder
I was told in am email that her lice was NOT the kind you find in the scalp. That is all I am going to say
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Barbara
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:11 am -Wonder
an email, DOH!
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Kristi
Nov 30, 2007 at 3:05 am -Wow…I go out of town for a couple days and it takes me 2 days of reading to get caught up again.
Farmurgirl, I just wanted to say that I don’t think anyone has a problem with Rowan getting lice, it happens, to all kids it seems. But the problems was that it was repetitive, month after month.
Janice, you came and left before I ever had a chance to correspond with you. If you check back in I am terribly sorry for your loss. I hope that you might return and have soooo many questions for you that I can’t believe weren’t asked while you were here and willing to talk with us. I was one of the posters wondering why Rowan’s older sisters did not do something to help her. I was not referring to you because I was only aware of Brittney and Ariane at that time. And contrary to some of the comments made I was not suggesting they were responsible for removing Rowan from the situation or that any of this was there fault. But I was very curious as to why they did not report it (or did they?) to someone other than your mother, authorities of some sort who could protect Rowan from any future abuse. Well I hope you come back, there is so much more. I am sorry that you have been hurt by the comments here, mine included I’m sure, but please understand that there are many of us out here who are as outragged as you and that in the process of trying to make sense of it we often lash out harshly at those involved. I respect your desire to protect your mother, most children would. But try to look at it from the outside in. You seem like a good sensible person and Mom so please understand that we have issues with a mother not protecting her child at all costs. I think if you were not directly involved you might feel the same. I hope you will return to talk with us.
Julienia, wow you took a real beating while I was away. I hope you too will return, you had some great insight that was appreciated. I realize there was a bit of an “issue”, but seems to me it was cleared up. Anyhow, I think that MOST of the people here are handing out the harsh comments to keep you aware and on your toes regarding Frank, you might do the same if it were someone else. Your a grown woman but just becareful. If you are at all interested in my email I will get it to you through Morbid.
I can’t recall who made the comment about having a relative who knows the Sherrif (and it could take forever for me to locate it again) but do you know, and can you say if there is any talk of charges against Myrna? It seems something would have popped up by now if there were. If I read correctly Janice stated that her whole family had issues with Myrna and don’t trust her, for whoever asked.
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julienia
Nov 30, 2007 at 5:45 am -Kristi,
Thank you and yes I would like your email, morbid has mine too. Also I understand why people on here are the way they are, but really why do they have to bash everything I say. Or bring my kids into this, I have full custody of my children and why someone would say that is just wrong, that’s why I’m not posting, but I’m reading.
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julienia
Nov 30, 2007 at 7:50 am -Ok I have a few thing’s to say so please just listen for a minute.
I have been sitting here for a few days just reading thing’s and I have let anger get above me and that’s not right, I have always taught my children to never speak out of anger and to never let anger speak for you, which is what I did. So to Rosie, I’m truely sorry for lashing out at you. I was mad and should not have done what I did. Same goes for you too solange, I’m sorry. You all have your right’s to express yourself and your view’s as you wish to. Means the purpose of this site. I think that anger has gotten to all of us.
Also I think that we all need to focus on janice and her healing or dealing with what she is going through, we all have said I’m sorry, and here if you need me, but you know what you can’t say that to her, and then grill her on what happened to her sister.
Christmas is coming and she has to deal with so much, so for right now instead of asking all the negative thing’s why don’t you ask special thing’s about Rowan’s life, not the nightmare.
If we truly want to be there for her, then we need to do just that.
Janice is a great person, she is young, and scared.
So I will not lash out again, if you have something to say to me on my choices in life I really wish you would just keep them to yourself, I understand you might be trying to make me aware, but belive me I’m aware. I’m also a grown woman and can make choices for myself.
If you want to bash me, or be negative then ask for my email I will give it to you. I really belive that there are people here on this site that really do want to change the world and make it better for our children, but that will never happen by putting people down.
Thank you and I really do hope that we can all join together and be there for those who need help, and answer’s.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 9:58 am -Thank you Julienia, I apologize too. I shouldnt have said anything about your children either, I also let my anger get the best of me. Thanks for coming back to the post
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:16 am -I went to Janedevin.com, who had posted that story about Rowan and the MySpace connection (she even mentioned Anthony Buhr on there), and she stated these facts:
“Recent studies, however, are pointing towards the increased risk of child abuse and fatalities in homes shared with a stepparent or other unrelated adult. A 2005 Missouri study, published by the American Academy of Pediatrics, reports that children living with a stepparent or unrelated adult were 50 times more likely to die of inflicted injuries than children living with both of their parents.”
I personally, as a single mom, am not the type who will say that Im never going to date or go out until my kid grows up. But honestly, I dont date that much anyway, as I enjoy spending most of my spare time with my son. But if I do meet someone special again, I know that I will have to get to know them for many years before officially bringing them into my son’s life.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:19 am -She also talks about some of the reasons for why child abuse occurs, it’s a very interesting website.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:26 am -Oh my god, Justamom, look at what else janedevin.com says:
(One of the longest standing tenets of social service workers has been “Keep the Family Together.” Under this dogmatic umbrella, thousands of children have been left in legal limbo, moving from one foster home to another for years on end, or getting caught in the revolving door between foster care and on-again, off-again relationships with their unstable and often abusive biological parents. Children who have been abused and neglected are often returned to parents who perpetrated or allowed the abuse. Perhaps the operative tenet of social services should be less about the rights of the adults involved and more about the long-term “best interests of the child”.)
This is SUCH BULLSHIT. Why do we even have this fucking agency? It defeats the whole purpose. If they were doing their jobs, we wouldnt even need CASA. Everytime I think about the Rylia Wilson case, I want to scream. The social service worker was falsifying reports stating that she was visiting Rylia on a monthly basis and that she was doing good. Turns out, the bitch wasnt going at all, she was probably at home napping or shopping or something, getting paid to do nothing. In the meantime, Rylia was getting tortured and murdered by her guardian. OH, and by the way, I am almost positive I read somewhere that the guardian had a criminal record, but DCS didnt bother to check that out before leaving Rylia with her.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:34 am -Barbara, I was wondering, maybe the MySpace page was activated again at the request of the authorities? Maybe to check all the emails and such? I cant think of why else it would be turned back on.
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believe909
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:40 am -solange-
GREAT question-why would Colling’s myspace be turned back on? If he can access it from jail, then I have a few things I would like to share with him, lol.
Please educate an ignorant person here and how could a child ,hypothetically, get umm body lice with little or no body hair?
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Death Watch
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:41 am -They can do that without making the page public. They took down he’s creepy song and his weed commenting friend has disappeared.
Imagine rapist Collings asking the prison infirmary to treat him for crotch crickets? Sick fucko.
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believe909
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:43 am -I would love to know a little more about Rowan if anyone who was close to her was willing to share-she looks like a child that was “early old.” Did she have a close friend or friends? Did she get a chance to play and laugh and listen to Hanna Montana if you know what I mean? Juliena is right in that we are sorting through the tragedy at the end of her life-but I would like to know if her life was balanced with some joy.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 10:48 am -Believe, in regards to the bodylice, I was wondering that myself. I did not know that they can live in areas of the body that dont have hair. We arent 100 percent sure that this is true. The blog that I got it from is what I consider to be very reliable, but still, keep that in mind…
You’re right Deathwatch, it doesnt make sense. Its not like anyone logged into his page (like a friend or family member), since it shows that last log-in date to be 11/2.
Morbid, what do you think in regards to the MySpace page?
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Rosie
Nov 30, 2007 at 11:05 am -Good morning everyone! I just read all the posts from last night - whew! Thank you Julieana for your apology and I too want to apologize to you, I went home the night I posted those things about you and I started feeling bad because I didn’t know you personally, emails are easy especially when you don’t know someone, but at the same time I was worried about you and your daughter from some of the things you had said. As long as you say things are okay in your world and realize that you do have help out here if you need it, I will leave you alone. And thank all of you who came to my defense! That was very kind of you. Someone told me once that the biggest assholes in our lives do us the biggest favors, they tell us the truth or make us see the truth.
I could have swore I saw a post from Janice on here when I logged in this morning but I guess not.
Would it be rude to ask her if she has money for toys for her children’s Christmas? We could be “secret Santas” for her maybe. I don’t want to put her on the spot, but I am blessed and would love to help her and her children in honor of Rowan.
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JUSTAMOM2
Nov 30, 2007 at 11:21 am -First off, solange you so rock! Just getting the word out about CASA is doing so much! Second, Morbid, I work in a battered women’s family shelter and we look at this site together. The ladies read the stories and then we talk about how this situation could have been stopped and these ladies are really listening, they are shocked, they are sickened and they see themselves a lot of times. I’m using you Morbid as a teaching tool and it’s having a really interesting result.
These women lived life like so many of the moms on here in these stories, boyfriends first kids second. When they read these stories they cry, they’re shocked because the SEE it. This site keeps us informed and damn if it doesn’t help in teaching too! Thanks Morbid, the in your face way you present these stories is effective!
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SWMissouriMom
Nov 30, 2007 at 1:15 pm -Okay,I have something important to post…
For anyone in the southwest Missouri area, tomorrow, Saturday December 1st starting at 1:00 p.m. there is a Car Show & Cruise Night on the Neosho, Missouri square, it is in HONOR and MEMORY of Rowan Ford. Proceeds will be donated to the Child Abuse Network in Memory of Rowan Ford. An account is also set up at Community Bank and Trust of Neosho.
Blessings to ALL,
Terri
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Barbara
Nov 30, 2007 at 1:19 pm -believe909
I have an 8 year old boy who has fine hair on his legs and arms. I guess it just depends on the child.
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Rosie
Nov 30, 2007 at 1:25 pm -Lets get off the lice subject, that is neither here nor there.
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ells9824
Nov 30, 2007 at 1:29 pm -I hate that I’m even typing this. I have 2 daughters,18&11. The both started the very first stages of puberty around 9. I won’t say what they “developed” but I will say that in my experience with them-what they’re saying about “other lice” finding a home with Rowan is possible and probable. I think its icky that she was exposed to that type,but again, not for me to judge.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 1:54 pm -Thank you Justamom, you are actually the one who rocks though, by introducing it to me and giving me the courage and advice that I needed to take the first step.
SWMissouriMom, that is awesome that they are doing that! I hadnt heard anything about that until you told us. I think that’s great that so many people are paying attention to this and spreading the word. Rowan may just help in saving another child’s life, reading about her may inspire people to step up and speak out against suspected child abuse.
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Morbid
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:02 pm -No idea why the Myspace page is back up. I cannot see how law enforcement would get anything from it being public. I guess it is kind of interesting to see that a pedophile, child murderer fits a lot of stereotypes, though. Evil imagery, drugs, sex, heavy metal music, etc. Not that I buy that, of course, it was just strange clicking on his Myspace page for the first time and seeing a layout that was EXACTLY what one would expect.
As far as Janice, she probably wont be posting anytime soon, or even reading for that matter. She simply cannot participate in the discussions while reading the stuff about her mother. She wanted me to remind everyone, that SHE is a product of Colleen and that “They shouldn’t praise me in one breath and in the next bash her again.”
I cannot possibly fathom what she is going through. But I would like to remind people that statistically, parents leave their children with step parents, boyfriends, girlfriends, day cares, babysitters, etc. every single day of the week. It does not equal a death sentence or child abuse. I am sure everyone here, at one point in their lives, has made a bad judgement call or decision about something, including a mate or leaving your kid in the care of another.
In regards to Colleen specifically, I’d rather wait until actual facts come out before I start doling out judgements on her. The only thing we know now is that she has shitty taste in men and is one of the millions of working poor out there who had to work a late-shift job at Wal-Mart, trusting her daughter would be safe while she slept the same way she had been many, many times before. Personally, I feel David and Chris killed Rowan, not Colleen. She made a bad decision and trusted people she thought were friends. She will have to live with that decision for the rest of her life. Far be it for me, who is lucky that some of my bad decisions in my life didn’t result in the death of someone, to chunk a rock at Colleen from my glass house.
Remember people, Colleen, good parent or bad, raised other daughters too, including Janice.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:10 pm -Very good point Morbid, extremely good point. And it probably is best that Janice not come on here, she is going through enough pain right now, she doesn’t need any more reminders. Although I have not changed my mind about certain things Colleen did, I can tell you that I am VERY lucky that some of the choices I made in the past didnt result in the harm of my son. Very lucky. Not a day goes by that those things dont haunt me though, and as much grief as I give other moms on here, believe me when I tell you I give myself just as much for what I did in the past.
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Wonder
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:12 pm -thanks barbara
# 636 was what I was referring to when I asked about the Lice
if that was a big problem in MO
fact sheet on them http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/.....lice.htm#5
and again the doc. said nothing about laundry and temperture or vaccuming
social worker stated in report it was handled - It was happening on monthly basis so assumming the school only called once - or they did call back and was told it was handled… again I have to say under staff under paid or just sloppy work.
even tho everyone whats to drop that discussion I wanted to clarify
if they are not in the scalp - understand is you can only get them from having sexual contact ???
http://search.yahoo.com/search.....p;ei=UTF-8
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Wonder
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:14 pm -morbid I do agree (Rosie - I think it was that made the request) can you move those ugly bastards from the top of the page so when it comes up we can see Rowan first … I too am tired of seeing those Asses and that is being nice.
thanks
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thepooh5
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:24 pm -I vote for the picture move, too - when you have the time. Their horrid faces are burned into my mind forever, and ever, and ever, and ever…………..
Thanks, in advance, Morbid.
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Rosie
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:25 pm -Thank you for your vote on removing their pictures or moving them to another part of the site. Them some ugly motherfuckers and every time I see their pictures I imagine them TRYING to get on top of me.
Back to the beginning, didn’t Chris confess first, didn’t he turn him self in? I couldn’t remember. If so I wonder what made him do that?
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believe909
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:28 pm -Thanks for answering my question everyone about the lice issue and I for one will drop it-while we are waiting for more court dates etc for Chris and David, I would like to get some more information regarding Rowan’s life vs death. It has great value, I think, and might alleviate some of the pain I personally feel. For what it is worth, I need to know if she had joy or if that baby’s life was all about fear and suffering.
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Pablo
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:31 pm -Right on Morbid,
And from what little i’ve seen Janice seems like a way cool sister to have had
It’s obvious from the MySpace pages that the sisters (and I assume Mom who worked the night shift) cared for Rowan before ‘everyone else’ even knew who she was. It’s too bad they couldn’t have foreseen and overcome David’s and Chris’s evil act of murder.
I appreciate you brushing up against the financial aspect of people’s difficulties in life. Had she simply had the opportunity she might have been able to work days. I wonder if David influenced her options and choices regarding work.
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Pablo
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:36 pm -Regarding the confessions,
I understand they came independently about the same time. My personal gut feeling is Chris was primarily responsible for Rowan ending up dead, but if David was abusing her he paved the way for the circumstances.
It’s hard waiting for the facts. We have secondary rights to it, but I appreciate all the local information, and I try to keep in mind the element of rumor.
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solange82200
Nov 30, 2007 at 2:43 pm -Believe909, I was thinking the same thing about Rowan and her life. If Janice was still here, Im sure she would have been able to share some of that with us. We’ll see though, maybe something will pop up
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ells9824
Nov 30, 2007 at 3:02 pm -Guys we know enough to celebrate her life. Her favorite song was Old Rugged Cross,and she LOVED LOVED LOVED to ride her bike. She was very helpful at church,and I would assume any sunday school or other type classes they had. We know she was loving,and loved receiving and giving hugs. We know she loved her mamma,and she ran to the door in the mornings when she heard her car to give her ginormous hugs…
We know a lot of good things about her.
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Wonder
Nov 30, 2007 at 3:04 pm -when i first read here that davids was deleted, which i couldnt see anyway it was private i checked collings and it was too but you had posted it yet.
My first impression of that was they gave passwords to their Public defenders to do it.
now no idea why they would be back except that windows live had it was under administration investigation whatever you call it
like they do something in msn groups when they are looking for reasons to shut you down.
I don’t have a my space … dont want one if at this point
for one the time to set it up and learn new program and then to have it in the spotlight if anything was to ever happen omg …. its happening to all these idiot crooks. its like dominos
I am interested to figure out how you find these peoples spaces by their real names tho - only way i manage to come across them is in the news articles or these forums
I was under the impression they used screen nic names email addresses -
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I still have ill feelings about Colleen
she was old enough to know better had 5 kids was twice that Davids age and older then Chris too
There be others on this forum that never committed a crime - that may be married or have a lover that is 20 years younger I just believe that is wrong to subject your children to it. It is not proper to have men living in your home where you have sons / daughters being raised for one. There is a chance that He or She could be attracted to them. (flip flop the genders around to me its makes no different who is older)
by the way I don’t mean to put anyone down its just my honest opinion.
But it might make a different if Colleen (I realize she doesnt have internet now)(might be a good thing to not be reading this anyhow) was talking to us. the discussion took a good turn a round when janice was posting
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This world is crazy I have heard other stories where a man was doing the mother and daughter - alot of the times the man was younger say 21 doing the 30 and 12 yr old too.
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right here in my living room - My stupid x told me after the divorce he was bi-sexual and later I found out that he was doing all his g/f’s sisters, nieces and the daughter is 21 now. Rumour is the niece 15 he was 43 was pregnant with his child. That has not been confirmed cause my daughter doesn’t visit. When his g/f’s oldest child the only daughter was age 12 she as allowed to date, her b/f was 19 yr old boyfriend had a car. long story short he landed her in the hospital and her 3 youngest brothers beat car windows out and smashed him with ball bat and all 3 of them were sent to juvenile. The older one broke out on work release and they moved him like 3 hours away for about 4 years total.
When he my children visited he was going to the g/f sisters / her boyfriends between the 4 adults (counting my 2 kids) there were 12 kids there and they got caught having a orgy. My 12 yr old daughter came home once from his visit with a sucker mark on her neck from the g/f sisters son age 14. They were not survervising these kids they were too busy doing their drugs and partying. Few years before that My daughter was shown by the 10 yr old where they kept their sex toys. When they met his g/f had 4 kids under age 5 at age 21 she was 14 yrs younger and she has been manipulated to raise those children the way he says reminds me of the Royce Ziegler case. All this is true, the mother smacked them if they called him by his name she forced them to call him Dad. No chance that I could do much about it when he had visitation rights. Myself and my kids really needed to have a relationship with their dad. But it was not a healthy one he would come by once every 10 or 16 months it would last about 6 weeks and he was distance from them again. He couldnt take the pressure of her bitching about being around me or them or spending anymore money then he was already sending the child support people she ended up breaking one of my windows it was a time when we hadn’t even seen him. She was overly jealous it was someone else he was cheating with it wasnt me. I prosceuted her and it was his pocket the money for damages came out of that was last we seem of either of them 4-5 years ago. All those kids get shopping sprees when they do favors for him. He honestly believe you buy love. It doesnt bother my kids but it bothers me. My kids opinion on that is Let them get whatever they can. Where his own kids get nothing they don’t have all the fancy new toys on the market like they did between the 4 kids they had just about everything that Toys R Us ever sold.
My daughter was almost 9 when i ran off for the last time. I told the attorneys I didnt want support cause I didnt want him unsupervised with my daughter when she became 12 or 13 … it was a gut feeling I had and I have to say it was blessing he doesnt or didnt come by often.
Both my kids will tell you this too they say its a blessing they were not around him much. My son has stated since he was 12 over and over again that he hate his dad and that he would KILLL him.
He really blew I could go on about this for weeks - I did want the best for my children pleaded with him at one time to spend more time with them. seriously my kids at time were more mature then either him or I on the divorce issues
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Wonder
Nov 30, 2007 at 3:17 pm -