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David Spears, Chris Collings Arrested In Death Of Rowan Ford

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  • 601

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 11:45 am -

    Janice, Im sorry. We all have said our opinion of your mom on here, and I really didnt feel the need to repost it over and over, especially considering how open and kind you’ve been to all of us. I’m sorry to see you leave this post, but I cant say I blame you.




  • 602

    Rosie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 11:48 am -

    I guess we run Julieana off as well - anyone read any news reports of Frank beating the hell out of her from discussing his business on here?




  • 603

    ells9824

    Nov 29, 2007 at 11:55 am -

    Solange
    Agreed. There are so many cases that are sad,but for some reason Rowan grabbed a lot of hearts. I know she has mine. When the dust settles a little bit,every one gets a little self righteous, pointing out the reasons this wouldn’t happen to THEM or THEIR kids. I am guilty of it myself. No one really knows though. Anyone of us could have a friend or neighbor decide to do something like this-and no matter what our lifestyle, we would have the same people saying the same things about us.
    Truth sucks,but it doesn’t make it any less true.

    About 15 years ago in StL we had 2 girls raped and murdered with in days. They have not yet found Angie Houseman’s killer, but they did find Cassidy Senters. Cassidy went missing with a Personal Alarm,that was going off in a side yard when they found it. Short of locking her up,there wasn’t much more her mother could do. And it was a neighbor’s uncle that raped and killed her.

    Regardless of what anyone thinks of Colleen’s choices, she still lost a little girl. If all of us feel the way we do,can you imagine how she must feel being the one that actually put the chain of events in place?




  • 604

    ells9824

    Nov 29, 2007 at 11:57 am -

    Rosie –please email me. My posting name here@gmail.com

    I would like to tell you something off board




  • 605

    warrman69

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:01 pm -

    Janice, I so sorry for what happened to your little sister and I’m sorry that you have to have your mom bashed in here, but it is just people trying to deal with all of the evil in the world and they want someone to pay for what has happen. I know she is your mom and that you love her and for that reason I will say nothing bad about her. She is the one who has to live with the bad choices that she has made. Lets hope this is a turning point in all of your lives and that justice will be swift for your little sister.
    I live right down the road from you in Missouri, well kind of. I have seen your mom at the Walmart before all this happened. So that is why this has hit me and my family hard, we really do feel bad for you and your family.
    God Bless,
    James




  • 606

    Morbid

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:03 pm -

    I would also like to chime in in regards to Janice leaving. Some of you need to understand that while we may not be the most sympathetic site on the web, but when we actually have a family member actively posting info, and how they feel about what is going on, is there really a need to keep repeating something you have already stated or has been stated? Some of you feel that Colleen is a piece of shit. Great. It’s been stated to death. Janice, her daughter, has read it (repeatedly) and has still stayed in here, answering questions regardless.

    Personally, I hate she is leaving. If she does, I will continue to keep in contact with her via other means. But people, come on. There is no need to continually kick someone in the teeth. Especially not when they are just as upset as the rest of you.

    So in the future, if a family member of a story decides to post, and is contributing, please double-check what you are about to comment. Is it helpful? Does it provide any new info? A new avenue of discussion? If not, save it. I do not want to get to the point other sites have gotten to, a point in which the admin APPROVES EVERY FUCKING POST before it gets broadcast.




  • 607

    thepooh5

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:06 pm -

    To Janice - I am sorry for hurting your feelings - as I have been bashing Colleen, too. I should have been more considerate of your feelings, once I realized you had joined the discussion - please forgive me.

    I will not take anything back that I posted - but if you choose to participate again, as many of us have asked you to do - I will be mindful of your presence and limit my comments to the discussion and not bashing Colleen. And, if Colleen had done things to help Rowan and I was wrong I will be the first to apologize to you and her.

    Again, please forgive my stupidity for not considering you feelings.




  • 608

    Rosie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:08 pm -

    Frank Buhr’s website is now marked PRIVATE.




  • 609

    Morbid

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:13 pm -

    I can imagine that with this article having almost 12,000 views, he may have started getting unwanted attention.




  • 610

    Rosie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:14 pm -

    Hey ells9824 November 29th, 2007 11:57 am
    Rosie –please email me. My posting name here@gmail.com

    I would like to tell you something off board

    I tried emailing you but it failed, is this the right email address? Mine is rlharden@gmail.com if you or Hippy or Kathy would like to email me. Sounds like we all think a like.




  • 611

    ells9824

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:14 pm -

    Ya think? =)




  • 612

    ells9824

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:15 pm -

    Once I typed that-I knew it would be screwy ells9824




  • 613

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:18 pm -

    Morbid, I feel the same way you do. I didnt want to bash Deathwatch, but I did feel that was really unnecessary. I think we were really blessed to have Janice on here sharing with us, and I guess we blew it.

    Rosie, I knew that would happen with Frank’s website. I know Julienia told him what we were saying. I personally, toyed with the idea of posting a nasty comment on his page saying something like “Where is Michael in all these pictures???”. But I didnt, oh well, too late now. BTW, I am going to try to figure out how to link my myspace page to my screenname on here like some other folks have, so you guys can contact me anytime.




  • 614

    ells9824

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:23 pm -

    I emailed you Rosie.

    Is it just putting your myspace in as your website on the dashboard thingy?If so,I’ve done that as well.




  • 615

    Kathy

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:24 pm -

    “Is it helpful? Does it provide any new info? A new avenue of discussion? If not, save it. I do not want to get to the point other sites have gotten to, a point in which the admin APPROVES EVERY FUCKING POST before it gets broadcast.”

    Damn! That covers about 75% of my comments… ;)




  • 616

    Morbid

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:30 pm -

    And about 50% of mine. :)




  • 617

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:31 pm -

    Guys, can anyone tell me how to link my name to my MySpace page? I went to Dashboard, and put the link to my page where it says “website”, but i dont think it worked…




  • 618

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:31 pm -

    Nevermind, it worked! Doy!




  • 619

    Morbid

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:32 pm -

    It worked.




  • 620

    Death Watch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:45 pm -

    I apologize for my transgressions.




  • 621

    Hunch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:47 pm -

    I think Death Watch was just trying to change the subject.For the last day or so we have not really talked about this case. We have been talking more of how to prevent these types of things.I also think that he should be able to voice his or hers own opinion.Janice should come back on the boards,and not worry about what some think.There are some people who post in here that I dont even bother reading.Most of you guys and gals are good people.Deaths post didnt bother me.
    So Janice stay with us.Your points of view,have cleared up so many things.Please come back and stand your ground for your family.Most everyone in here likes you.

    My two cents




  • 622

    JUSTAMOM2

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm -

    Janice, I wish you all the best and I’m just so sorry for your pain. When people see a crime that just has no explanations they want to blame someone, anyone. We all want to think that this would never happen to my family so we tear down everyone involved to protect ourselves from the sad truth that this happens to every kind of family everywhere. We want to pick it apart to show ourselves that we would never do this or that, we would never be in this position. It’s a self defence mechanism, at least for me. I think that if I can find differences between me and your mother then I can say, oh! This isn’t me and this can’t happen to my kids. It’s a dillusion, it’s a way to make me feel safer when it comes to the sad fact that evil is out there and it could be next door or even closer.




  • 623

    Death Watch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm -

    Thanks, Hunch. It’s was really nothing directed toward Janice. Just trying to vent some frustration toward the despicable acts.




  • 624

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm -

    Thanks Deathwatch for apologizing, I personally know that you didnt mean any harm. And although I agree, Hunch, that we should all be able to voice our opinions, I think that every situation is different and I personally, would rather read posts from Janice telling us more about the family and case, than I would more posts bashing Colleen.

    Also, another thing I noticed, just my opinion, is at this point we all dont have much else to talk about. Nothing new has come about, and yet I still have Rowan and this case on my mind, and I like being connected to others who are also interested in the subject. Hope something new happens so that we have something to post about!




  • 625

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:56 pm -

    Hi Justamom, do you happen to remember how long it took someone to contact you from CASA? Did you register to volunteer online like I did, or did you get involved in another way?




  • 626

    JUSTAMOM2

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm -

    solange, it may take a while and if someone doesn’t contact you there should be a number or address listed in your district that you can call.




  • 627

    Morbid

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm -

    Let me stress that I do not mean that I want everyone to be PC, or for this site to turn into a kinder, gentler version of itself. That is not the case. I am just speaking specifically about scenarios in which we have a member that may be able to provide insight and info on a case faster and more accurate than the press, it may be a good idea to NOT piss them off. Unless they deserve it, that is. :)




  • 628

    Death Watch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm -

    I want justice for Rowan. Plain and simple. I don’t want this atrocity to go away.




  • 629

    JUSTAMOM2

    Nov 29, 2007 at 1:22 pm -

    Morbid, I’ve never been PC in my life but I have compassion for people involved in a nightmare they had no choice in. I agree Death Watch, I don’t want this to be forgotten or put on the back burner. And let me say in a very un PC way …I want those fuckers to burn and suffer, plain and simple. (oh it’s just sad I feel guilty using the fuck word *sigh* I’m so midwestern)




  • 630

    Rosie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 1:25 pm -

    I’ve noticed on several posts where people say they hope these guys get it in prison, can anyone elaborate, maybe someone who has been in prison, as to how these guys ARE treated in prison? You don’t have to be too graphic, just curious. I know Jeffrey Dalmer was murdered in prison but haven’t heard of too many others being killed. Anyone have any experience in this department?




  • 631

    Pablo

    Nov 29, 2007 at 1:35 pm -

    Um,

    Child molesters apparently get special treatment in prison, usually anal rape and so on, up to murder. Haven’t been, but i think constant sexual abuse is more common than murder.

    Hope that clears it up.




  • 632

    Hunch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 1:45 pm -

    I am sure that these guys will probably get the death penalty.There is a chance they would get life in prison without parole.If that happened they would probably be put in PC (Protective Custody).That is an area of the prison where they are in single cells and food is brought to them.This area of the prison is for homo sexuals and rapists and police officers who broke the law.Anyone that is in need of protection.I am not sure if they let them mingle with one another in a day room.I am pretty sure they stay secluded from one another.
    To me this punishment is not enough for these two.As long as the district atty. has done his job correctly,we should see death sentences for them both.I had heard that Collene wanted them to get life in prison.Please Janice talk her out of that.I wouldnt want the killers of my daughter to be alive and fantasise what they did to her, for the rest of their lives.These guys need to straight to hell,the faster ther better.




  • 633

    farmergurl62

    Nov 29, 2007 at 2:02 pm -

    I too am sorry to see janice leave , janice I cant blame you and i for one do not want the gorey details of what your poor little sister looked like in that cave noone in the right mind would that is just morbid curosity no pun intended morbid . Janice I am begging you to reconsider and please at least keep us posted as to what is happening in the trial as well want to see justice served for Rowan
    And now to the rest of my fellow posters may I remind you head lice did’nt kill rowen if we condemed every parent in southwest missouri for their child having head lice then well hell we’d all be convicts now wouldn’t we I too have made mistakes in my life and when someone trys bashing me well i simply quote the bible
    Judge not lest yea be judged for God will judge you in the same manner that you judge others I am not saying coleen is perfect she has made a mistake she married the wrong man she chose the wrong friends and who gives a shit as to what she wore to the funeral when my daughter passed i wore jeans and a sweater it was winter and FYI were simple country folk we dont have crowns and jewels to darn our selves in I guess what i am really tring to say is that I am sorry janice and I humbly ask you to accecpt my apoliogie and ask that you please dont leave the site




  • 634

    Rosie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 2:09 pm -

    Hey Morbid - only a suggestion but do you think you move the pictures at the top around a little bit so that we see Rowan’s pretty smiling face instead of the two scumbags? I’m sort of seeing the two of them.




  • 635

    bexter

    Nov 29, 2007 at 2:33 pm -

    according to the newspaper it just tells about the court getting a public defender for Spears and not one for Collings yet. It said there was a pre-trial conference before Judge John LePage in Mac County Monday. I assume this was over the DWI. No other information going around about it. Things are very quiet all of a sudden so I don’t exactly know what that means. I know they are still doing some investigations in to other people. Not sure if they are still investigating Nathan Mahurin or not. He is the one David was out drinking with when Chris snagged Rowan. I havent seen Clint Clark in town lately. He is the cop Chris confessed to. I have heard that this hit him so hard he has taken some time off. That unfortunately is the main source of information locally, so no new news in the coffee shops. I imagine things might coast a bit til after the first of the year.




  • 636

    warrman69

    Nov 29, 2007 at 2:35 pm -

    “if we condemed every parent in southwest missouri for their child having head lice then well hell we’d all be convicts now wouldn’t we”

    That’s the Truth farmergurl62

    I have nothing to say about the lice thing. My daughter got lice about 2 years ago and gave it to everyone in the house, but me. Lice don’t like people who smoke. We treated all the beds and put everything in bags. My wife treated herself and we treated all the kid. A week later she had it again and this went on for some time, to the point that my little girl did not want to go to school because she was getting it from someone on the bus. Here is what we did to get rid of it, smoking was not the only reason I was not getting it when everyone else in the house was. I put hair gel in almost everyday and the lice smother to death. So that is what he did with her and the other kids we got them some styling moose and had them put it in their hair everyday. That was the end of the lice. I don’t know what it is about southwest Missouri, but every kid I know around here has had it at least a couple of times.




  • 637

    Death Watch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 3:10 pm -

    This might help us understand Collins better.




  • 638

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 3:14 pm -

    Sorry I havent been on in a while, for some reason the site wasnt working for me, it wouldnt load all the comments. Anyway, here I am, Im going to check out this goat trauma thing..




  • 639

    solange82200

    Nov 29, 2007 at 3:16 pm -

    “Since getting help from the Childhood Goat Trauma Foundation, I’ve been able to go outside for the first time in twenty-two years! Thank you, CGTF!”

    – Billy B., Peoria, IL

    Hahaha Deathwatch, you are such a goofball. where do you get this shit?




  • 640

    JUSTAMOM2

    Nov 29, 2007 at 3:27 pm -

    Now that was funny! Goats! The scurge of society!




  • 641

    farmergurl62

    Nov 29, 2007 at 3:40 pm -

    omg I have to keep an eye on my daughter she had a pet goat when she was 4 and she was traumtized when billy boy died of old age she is now 29 and just last year she was able to look at goat cheese agian with the help of this wonderful foundation we can now once agian look at goats with a more positive attitude
    omg rofl this is just to funny I just hope collings lawyer dont see this I could see the defense stratigies now!!!!!!!




  • 642

    Rosie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 4:43 pm -

    Morbid, were you able to email Janice to see if she was really gone? She hasn’t replied anymore. Dang it we ran her off too!




  • 643

    Morbid

    Nov 29, 2007 at 4:49 pm -

    Yes, I emailed her earlier today. She has not replied back. I am sure she will, though.




  • 644

    warrman69

    Nov 29, 2007 at 4:52 pm -

    Death Watch I am going to die that was too funny.




  • 645

    Barbara

    Nov 29, 2007 at 4:58 pm -

    Janice,

    Thank you for coming over here. I will keep in touch with you.




  • 646

    MOMfromMO

    Nov 29, 2007 at 5:02 pm -

    Just peekin’ in………haven’t been here in awhile. OMG Death Watch….that goat site is tooooo much!

    I really hope those scumbags do get ’special treatment’ in prison. Special, meaning um……….broomstick Bob, perhaps? Or maybe the Roto-rooter special?

    Nothing is too bad for those pondscum POS’s!!!!




  • 647

    Barbara

    Nov 29, 2007 at 5:09 pm -

    Janice,

    Have you been reading the freerepublic? Cause I made a reference to you as the hen in the den of wolves. I meant that too. I admire you for coming over here. I really do.




  • 648

    believe909

    Nov 29, 2007 at 5:23 pm -

    I am sorry if Janice is gone-thanks for the guidelines Morbid. Just a question-Morbid, did you decide if the information regarding Rowan’s body that you alluded to was able to be posted. This is not idle curiosity-I think that if the whole story is told and stands in the broad light of day, people who may previously had thoughts regarding Rowan’s care (or perhaps another neglected child) will have a better frame of reference about calling someone and making sure that they err on the side of the child being safe. Am I making sense??




  • 649

    Josie

    Nov 29, 2007 at 6:34 pm -

    How is it that such a ‘monster’ as Colleen is here painted, able to be a part of the creation of one as precious as Rowan?
    “She’s just a little girl”…… I saw that, felt it, heard it in the far corners of my heart, it resounds there. And all the anger of how this came to be, the anger for the disregard I see everywhere for the preciousness of children and their life is something I think that helped draw me here, something I don’t quite know how to deal with myself, and how then, can Colleen, or anyone else who knew and loved Rowan, or who has been touched by her life and tragic death at the hand of the one she called ‘Daddy’?

    Remember the old saying…
    You never know what you have until it’s gone.
    She greeted her mother in the driveway.
    She hugged and kissed and loved her daily.
    She knew the love of Jesus.
    Colleen did do Something right…..and some things not so right. May others learn…May we all learn, to do what we can.

    I never knew you Rowan, but I do know for whatever reason your life has touched mine.

    Janice thank you for coming here, I admire your courage. I would hope that you would change your mind and stay around and if you do not, I can understand that too. My deepest condolences to you and your family.

    Josie




  • 650

    Death Watch

    Nov 29, 2007 at 7:25 pm -

    The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.



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